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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to Move the Sticks. DJ. Bucky

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Speaker 1: here with a very special Move the Sticks episode coming

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Speaker 1: to you from the Pack twelve Media Days and and Bucket.

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Speaker 1: We've had a chance over the last two days spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of time talking to some of the top

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Speaker 1: this is a fascinating environment, a chance to sit down

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Speaker 1: We've kind of dubbed this the Year of the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: what they look for in the quarterback position and Bucky,

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Speaker 1: the answers we got were quite fascinating, very fascinating. I

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Speaker 1: what is interesting that the differences in terms of the

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Speaker 1: core traits that every coach looks for. It kind of

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Speaker 1: generals to lead these respective programs. All right, let's not

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Speaker 1: waste any more time with our introduction here. This is

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Speaker 1: again I think it's one of the best podcasts we've done.

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Speaker 1: It's fascinating look at the quarterback position, not only this class,

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Speaker 1: All right, Excited to be joined by u c l

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us year, my flesh. As we get rolling,

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Speaker 1: you and Bucky sitting here talking, you guys talk about

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Speaker 1: high schoolkids all day long. Pro guys. No, Bucky does

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Speaker 1: an amazing job with the seven on seven team. I've seen.

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Speaker 1: I've been to a couple of tournaments and your juice. Man,

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Speaker 1: You know, coach obviously, um quarterback driven league, you have

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Speaker 1: is Josh Rosen. Josh Rosen is evolving. Josh Rosen. I've

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Speaker 1: because they accomplished a lot. Coach, you got a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's that's pretty darn special. Um. What what don't we

428
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Speaker 1: know about Sam Donald that you get to experience when

429
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Speaker 1: you're around him like you are. Um, I am baffled

430
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,600
Speaker 1: by his humility and humbleness. UM. You know, usually you

431
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 1: get a kid that that's that talented and um, a

432
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 1: kid that just produces like he does. Um. He's always

433
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 1: so worried about the team success rather than his own

434
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 1: individual success. And that's a special thing, especially at that position. Um.

435
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Speaker 1: He truly believes that individual success is a byproduct of

436
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Speaker 1: the team success, and it just filters down to the

437
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Speaker 1: other guys. I mean, when you're leader, the guy that's

438
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 1: got the ball in his head every down has that

439
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 1: type of mentality, it filters down to the other guys.

440
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 1: So we're very fortunate to have have him in that role.

441
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: You know. So now that you have a quarterback, this

442
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: song with Deem as a franchise quarterback going forward, when

443
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Speaker 1: you're in the recruiting process of just looking at the position,

444
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 1: evaluating what are some of the courts rates that you

445
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: now know that my quarterback needs to have to be

446
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 1: a successful quarterback. You know, I've I've played the position,

447
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 1: and I'm a quarterback coach by trade, and and the

448
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: things that I've always looked for. The first thing is

449
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: always the intangibles, because that guy, uh is going to

450
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: be looked at every play by not only your team

451
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: but your fans. His body language, how he carries himself,

452
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 1: his leadership capabilities, they're gonna resonate through the teams. Uh.

453
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Speaker 1: Then I look at three mechanical deals, and that's basically

454
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 1: being able to throw the ball on time, make great decisions,

455
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 1: and how accurate you are decision making, timing and accuracy,

456
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: being able to get the ball in the right place

457
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Speaker 1: in the right time, allowing the juju smith to have

458
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Speaker 1: separation and get the ball and make yards after catch

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Speaker 1: with it. And then how accurate you are. I look

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Speaker 1: at Sam, He's a six day percent quarterback. You know,

461
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 1: his touchdown interception ratio very good for a freshman coming

462
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Speaker 1: coming in Um. And then the last thing, and I've

463
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: always felt this way is great quarterbacks produce. They produce wins.

464
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Speaker 1: You show me a great quarterback, you're gonna you're gonna

465
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Speaker 1: have a great team. Uh. There's there's not too many

466
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks on on bad football teams. And and uh,

467
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Speaker 1: you know, I look at Sam and what he's done. Um,

468
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: not only in high school. Uh. I go back and

469
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Speaker 1: look at his junior year when he was heard and

470
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Speaker 1: I think Sam Clement, they want about two games and

471
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Speaker 1: then he comes back his senior year and they win

472
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Speaker 1: the c i F title. The same thing for us.

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Speaker 1: That matter to you. So when you're looking at quarterbacks,

474
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Speaker 1: it's it's not just the skill set, but you want

475
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Speaker 1: to make sure that their team wins, that their difference maker. Yeah. Yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: I believe if you're looking at trying to find a

477
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Speaker 1: true franchise quarterback, somebody that's gonna run your team, I

478
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Speaker 1: think his production and how he carries his team and

479
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: the success that they have is important to look at

480
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Speaker 1: him to consider. How about the importance of of Sam

481
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,479
Speaker 1: had a basketball background. Believe it as well, right as

482
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Speaker 1: a quarterback played the position. How important is it to

483
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: get a guy it's a multi sport guy. Well, the

484
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Speaker 1: last two kids I've had both in Cody ca Yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: he was a point guard as well as Sam. And

486
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Speaker 1: I think there's something to a one from a footwork capability.

487
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: I think in the pocket, the ability to create I

488
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: think the basketball and tangibles that you bring in and

489
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: the muscle memory that you bring in. Vision and and

490
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,479
Speaker 1: and the vision is the biggest thing. I mean, there

491
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Speaker 1: are times even our coaches will say that Sam will

492
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Speaker 1: pull the trigger and we're like, where is he throwing it?

493
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Speaker 1: And he just he sees the open window. Is anticipation

494
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Speaker 1: skills to be able to deliver the ball on time

495
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Speaker 1: and no Ah, kid's gonna be there. I think comes

496
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Speaker 1: a lot from being a point guard and be able

497
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: to run fast breaks and pictures change and you see

498
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Speaker 1: a window and you and you put it in there.

499
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Speaker 1: So the last kids that two kids I've had had

500
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Speaker 1: both been point guards, and they've also been two of

501
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Speaker 1: the better kids I've ever seen with anticipatory throws and vision.

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Speaker 1: So and and continue to speak to your quarterback background,

503
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Speaker 1: So when you have a guy like Sam who has

504
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Speaker 1: a great freshman year, comes off and half success, how

505
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Speaker 1: do you say goals for him. How do you take

506
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 1: a look at his game and say, Okay, here's where

507
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Speaker 1: we need to get to at the end of year

508
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: two as a start, Yeah, definitely. I I don't think

509
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Speaker 1: whether you're a coach or a player, you're never a

510
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: finished product. That's one of my things my dad taught me.

511
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: He's a forty year NFL and college coach. You never

512
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Speaker 1: stopped getting better. And in Sam's case, he has a

513
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: lot of God given physical tools. But I love the

514
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Speaker 1: challenge that we took with him and him accepting of Hey,

515
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: go be a student of the game. Go master your craft,

516
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: Go understand start reading front start reading rotations of coverages.

517
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna be put in positions like you were at

518
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: later in the season last season of remiking, resliding the protection.

519
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: Those are things that are gonna make not only us

520
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: a better football team, but it's gonna make you a

521
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: better product later on down the line for your next step. Um,

522
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: and he really put the film study in this year

523
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: of trying to be in a student of the game.

524
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Speaker 1: So we're going to give him the opportunity to give

525
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Speaker 1: him to three plays and hey, get us in the

526
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: right play. Hey, if you see pressure coming from you, right, hey,

527
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: read Mike, and let's reslide the protection and get it

528
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 1: picked up so you can throw down the ball down

529
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: the field rather than making a hot throw. Those are

530
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: things at great quarterback should do and that's where his

531
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: development and his next step is. Coach, I appreciate you

532
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: taking some time for us and best of luck this fall.

533
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, guys, all right, joined by Washington

534
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: quarterback Jake Browning here, Bucky and Jake. I gotta tell you, man,

535
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Speaker 1: I got a chance to to watch you last year

536
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: at the Stanford game live, and man, you just put

537
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: on a clinic and that one just seems like you're

538
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: so comfortable and so confident. Where are you at now

539
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: and just your understanding and your comfort level in this system,

540
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: uh pretty high. I mean it's third year on the

541
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: same offensive coordinator, which is, you know, something to be

542
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: grateful for and college football and having had to learn,

543
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: uh two offenses in college. So it's been nice and

544
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, feeling more and more comfortable, just trying

545
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: to take each each year, trying to take another step.

546
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: You know, so when you're thinking about taking that next step,

547
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: what is the next step for you? When it comes

548
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: to playing a quarterback. Uh, I think there's a couple

549
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: of different things. So obviously you want to, you know,

550
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: make sure you don't get away with what got you

551
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: the success in the first place. And then uh, you know,

552
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: being able to convert on some of those those deep

553
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: balls that that I would just barely miss and and

554
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: uh you know, fighting that that urge where on some

555
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: of those deep ones, I would just think, well, he's

556
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: so open, I'm just gonna get it there, and not

557
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: really I mean, especially with a guy like John Ross.

558
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm throwing the ball and I feel

559
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: like it's right on target. Yeah, the ones that I

560
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: did hit him right, like dang, I just completely missed that.

561
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: When I throw like it goes against every you're you're conscious,

562
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: you know, subconsciously, just like, well I just completely missed that.

563
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 1: And then uh, as far as offensively in scheme wise, uh,

564
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's being able to check some plays even

565
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: more so the Lion scrimmage. We did a decent amount

566
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: of it last year, but it was all pretty controlled,

567
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: and so just being able to recognize stuff I recognize it.

568
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: It's just being able to change it, give us a

569
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: better look maybe even more like the run game and

570
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Give me a quick scun of report.

571
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: You got another receiver coming back now with Dante Pattist

572
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit abou him and what he

573
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: brings the table. Extremely athletic guy that showed up a

574
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: ton for us on third down the red zone, which

575
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: is which is obviously two biggest times to show up.

576
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: And you can do a lot of different things. I

577
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: think you can play a little bit inside. Uh, it's

578
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: pretty versatile player. Obviously turns punts, does a great job

579
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: in the special teams game. Uh. As far for us,

580
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: I think going forward for this year, he's gonna step

581
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: into a bigger role. Uh. With John Ross gone, Uh,

582
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: he was the X, I think Dante probably bump over

583
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: be the X. But I mean that being said, you

584
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: never really know. We haven't even had fall camp yet,

585
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: so I can't give you guys the most accurate thing.

586
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: But as far as what he's done in the past, uh,

587
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, just been a really special consistent player for US.

588
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: Got one early against Alabama. I was at that one too.

589
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: That was nice. Yeah. So whenever we look at young

590
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of players in general, we always wonder who they

591
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: patterned their game after So when you go and start

592
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: looking at NFL games on Sundays, there a quarterback or

593
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: two that you try and take bits and pieces of

594
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: their game and put in yours. I mean, I think

595
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: all the top guys you watch you kind of it's

596
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: kind of interesting they do that. But you know, I'm

597
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm not in the media as much, so I'm not

598
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: really trying to compare myself necessarily to a certain player.

599
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: I think it's more okay, well, you know Tom Brady

600
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: did this well, or you know such and such a

601
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: this well, and just kind of seeing how they play

602
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: the game, and and uh, you know, taking little things

603
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: from each one of them, trying to be just take

604
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: away you think it fits into your game. I remember

605
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: when you first started playing there, you dub I look

606
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: back and trying to see where you came from. Look

607
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: at you high school, back round everything. Give me your

608
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: numbers again, your senior year of high school touchdowns, interceptions.

609
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: I know we had ninety one touchdowns and like he

610
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: had like four interceptions something stupid like that in one season. Yeah,

611
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: what were you guys doing? Did you ever run the ball?

612
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: We actually did it on the ball a decent amount

613
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: we're pretty good in my senior year, so we would

614
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: would throw the ball out in the first half and

615
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: then run it the whole second half. So and then

616
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams was here here left tackle there at that

617
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, I would do a field and boundary tackle.

618
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: He was the field talking code crees and who's played

619
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: a significant minutes at Arizona was my right tackle. And

620
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: then Sam Whitney was my center, plays d ND at Boise.

621
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 1: Now we have some dudes, so good night. What does

622
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: this Washington team need to do to get to that

623
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: next level? You guys are right there, You're you're a

624
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: final four team, We're in the College Football Playoff. Everybody

625
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: talks about what you lost. We know the NFL talent,

626
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: you guys haven't coming back. What do you guys need

627
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: to do to just get that last little bit? I

628
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: think it's just sticking to the same grind that that

629
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: we uh that we established last year and the same routine,

630
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: and you know, fine tuning that to to fit those

631
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: year's team and the personalities that step into leadership roles.

632
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's not not every year is gonna be

633
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: the same. I don't care if you're Nick Saban and

634
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: this is whatever year for you. Every year is gonna

635
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: be a little bit different. You're always trying to fine

636
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: tune to say, Okay, what's the best routine, what does

637
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: the best Monday look like on game week? To you know,

638
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: trying to accomplish things we want to accomplish. I think

639
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: it's the day by day thing. They break it down,

640
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: and you're just trying to break it up into small segments. Okay,

641
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: I want to I want to have a good month,

642
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: the championship Monday and then you know, Tuesday, and build

643
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: it all together. I think, just trusting that, and then

644
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's those little things that happened

645
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: in the season. There's those four or five plays this

646
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: season that really change it. And you know, obviously the

647
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: injuries too. We're lucky enough to stay pretty healthy last year. Uh,

648
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: And so I think I think it's just a combination

649
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: of all those things. You guys are you guys are

650
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: right there knocking on the door man and we're wishing

651
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: you the best of luck this false, stay healthy and

652
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: look forward to to seeing you guys. I'm gonna get

653
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: out there and see Stanford again. I want to see

654
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: the rematch. You guys got pretty good last year. Thank you,

655
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Thanks Buddy. All Right, Bucky joined by one of the

656
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: best coaches in college football, Washington coach Chris Peterson. Coach

657
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: man Me and Bucky remember going through boys, going through

658
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 1: and seeing you all those years and looking all those

659
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: great players that you had, and here you are, Washington.

660
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: It feels like you've kind of created a boise on

661
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: steroids right now. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I think the

662
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: thing that we feel good about is is we um

663
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, we we kind of have a process of

664
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: how we do things. And I think that's the one

665
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: thing that's UM. Going to Washington that's really UM, it

666
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: was a learning experience for me, is everybody really has

667
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: their own unique way. You think that everybody lifts a

668
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: certain way, everybody practices a certain way, everybody and it

669
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: really is that not the case. You know, it's especially

670
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: when you have a strong philosophy which you believe in,

671
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: you kind of have a tendency to think, well, everybody's

672
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: kind of doing this. I mean, we're all doing lifting weights,

673
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: we're all you know, practicing. We only get so many

674
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: time in the meetings with the kids, but it can

675
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: be like dramatically and significantly different and so to get

676
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: everybody going on the same page, that just takes time.

677
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: And so I think the thing that's nice about now

678
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: is as we feel like, um, you know a little

679
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: bit like we did a boise where it's like, at

680
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: least everybody's on the same page. Coach, You've had so

681
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: much success on offense, and so anytime anytime you think

682
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: about offense, you always think about the quarterback. And so

683
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: having this opportunity to sit with you, if you could

684
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: pick one trade or handful of trade that you look

685
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: for in a quarterback, what would you say those traits are. Yeah,

686
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: it's pretty simple because we know exactly what they are

687
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: for us. You know, we're looking for a guy that

688
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: first and foremost was a great decision maker. You know,

689
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: we can teach anybody our system. We you know, we

690
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: can teach anybody like, Okay, here's the reads, all this stuff,

691
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: but really that game that's played so fast that you

692
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: gotta make him fract you know, it's that that intuitive

693
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: feel that just can make those decisions. He's just like, wow,

694
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: why did you go there? Well, my read to you know,

695
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: they get that next level stuff which is hard to know,

696
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: but it's a great decision maker. The second thing would

697
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: be an accurate thrower. Um, you know there's a lot

698
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: of guys you know, hey, the ball, the receiver shoot

699
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: you like you watch the really great ones that you know,

700
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: the paytent man. I used to love to watch tape

701
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: on Peyton Mann and throw that seam ball or that

702
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: comeback ball way down and just stick it on that

703
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: outside number. I mean it's like he I we always

704
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: talk like catching, you throw it so you almost catch

705
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: it for him, he didn't even break st He just

706
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: barely puts his hands up, you know, it just sticks

707
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: on his chest like that type of accuracy, not where

708
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: he had to kind of go up. And it wasn't

709
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: spectacular catch, but that changes everything, like how the receiver

710
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: can run with it after the catch, all those things.

711
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: So I'm taking you know, it's an accurate thrower, but

712
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: like there's a different level of this accurate thrower we're

713
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: talking about. And then we're always into that guy that

714
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: can operate and confined spaces. You know, the great ones

715
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: are in the I mean Tom Brady is like the

716
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: best ever because of how he operates with people, you know,

717
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: blowing up his feet and his knees and his face

718
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: and just does not flinch. And to have that skill

719
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: set to be able to do that, you can do

720
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: some good things. It's Kellen gna end up coaching when

721
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: he's done. I remember we were both scouting at that time,

722
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: and I remember I've never interviewed a prospect where I

723
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: thought this kid is, this is such a coach and

724
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't coach, I'll be shocked. Yeah. Yeah, he you know,

725
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: if he can hang in the NFL long enough making

726
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: enough money, he might not do. He might not, but

727
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, he comes from a coaching family, his dad,

728
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: So I will be like you, if that's not what

729
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: he ends up doing, I'll be shocked. Yeah. Tell us

730
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: a little bit about your your quarterback that you've got

731
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: right now. And how does he compare with with Kellen? Yeah?

732
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: I always very similar. I mean, and I don't really

733
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: like to compare guys like that, but when it's in

734
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: such a good way. Um, and killing did I mean

735
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: he won fifty games for us in his time. I

736
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: mean I think a lot of people do. Mean he

737
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: lost three games as our quarterback. I mean that's that's

738
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: hard to do anywhere. But um, but just their demeanor,

739
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just very very similar. Their

740
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: personalities are a little bit different, but their demeanor is

741
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: so similar. They just do not get too up, they

742
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: do not get too down. How you guys spoke to

743
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: him on the you know the radio. That is that's

744
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: what you get. That's what you get if he throws

745
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: a touchdown, That's what you get if he throws an interception.

746
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: And UM, I think that's a pretty special quality to have.

747
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: And we weren't necessarily going out and looking for that,

748
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: but you know, when you pay attention to it, I

749
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: think it really helps them play the season. Thank you

750
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: so much for stotting, but I wish you the best

751
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: of luck people'll be following this fall. Yeah, thanks for

752
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: having me on. Guys all right, Bucky joined by Washington

753
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: State head coach Mike Leach. Coach, appreciate you spending some

754
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: time with us here. We you know, from from the

755
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: scouting background, we're fascinated by your offense and and how

756
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: you developed this offense and where that all started from.

757
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: Can you give us the cliff notes version there? Uh, Well,

758
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: when I when I first got in uh into coaching, Uh,

759
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: it was as far as throwing the ball is a

760
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: great time to be in coaching. I mean, you had

761
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: you had the running shoot, you had b y us

762
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: control passing game, you had um, you know, Jack Elway,

763
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: Dennis Erics, and UM, Mike Price kind of all combined

764
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: as far as uh, you know, their three step passing game.

765
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: You had the San Francisco forty Niners, and so we

766
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: copied and stole from. I would like to think some

767
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: really good offenses, and you know, and I think that's

768
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: the toughest thing on offense is UM is uh, you know,

769
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: making choices and putting together a package, because there's really

770
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: good players out there, and about as fast or he's

771
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: out there, and as fast as you think you invented something, UM,

772
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: you'll discover and you might have thought of it independently,

773
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: but you'll discover somebody else ran it back whenever you know,

774
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: and UM, you know, And the biggest thing is is

775
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: find ways to attack the field. And then once you

776
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: make the choice of what you're gonna be good at,

777
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: then UM really isolate your attention and effort around developing

778
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: those skills so you can execute. So coach you You've

779
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: obviously coached a lot of quarterbacks that have had a

780
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: lot of success. You mentioned Tim Cows some of the

781
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks you had tex say, and even at Washington State,

782
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: we are fascinating our league about quarterbacks and what to

783
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: look for. So when you are evaluating the position, what

784
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: is quarts race that you look for in the quarterback position? Well,

785
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 1: one thing I think the league, every team is looking

786
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: for some difference. So it's not very congruing as far

787
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: as what they're after. And then about the time they

788
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: sort out what they're after, scouts or coaches will get

789
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: fired and they're after something else. And you know, because

790
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: it's funny because every team's got a first round pick,

791
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: but very few or playing with the first round pick.

792
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: You know, I uh, I look at um. Well, first

793
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: of all, I want a guy that makes good decisions.

794
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: Can you decide who you want to throw it to?

795
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: Do you make good decisions? And the second thing is

796
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: are you accurate? And I hate this, uh, you know,

797
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: all the guy's got to do is work on his

798
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: accuracy somewhere between the backyard and the NFL. He ought

799
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: to be accurate already. And then and then the then

800
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: the notion that you know, the his junior high coach,

801
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: you couldn't get him acurates high school coach couldn't get

802
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: him accurates college coach couldn't get him accurate. There's nothing

803
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: so magic about the NFL that all of a sudden

804
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna get him accurate there the once, you know,

805
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: and then uh, I mean because you can go get

806
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: a short stop for somebody that's accurate, and then um

807
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: uh and then after that and and you know, you

808
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: can go right through the NFL Hall of Fame. Nobody's

809
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: got everything. But uh, does he make good decisions which

810
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: you can coach? That is he accurate? Which you can

811
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: improve that? I don't know you. I don't think you

812
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 1: can just coach it, you can improve it. I can't

813
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: say that I've ever taken a guy from being inaccurate

814
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: to accurate, but I you know, just through constant reps,

815
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll improve something. And then uh does it?

816
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Does he have quick feet? And I like? Um, I

817
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: like uh quick feet? I think the most important as

818
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: far as keeping the ball alive. And there's a difference

819
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: between having quick feet and being fast. Some guys are

820
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: fast and don't have quick feet, and vice versa. Like

821
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: to meet Joe Montana is a guy with a quick feet,

822
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: And then um uh. Then after that, is he fastened,

823
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: does he have a strong arm? You know? But those

824
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: are down the list. I mean, I think a guy's

825
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: got to be able to throw at forty five yards

826
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: without it fluttering. Um, that rules me. But does he

827
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: have to throw at eighty I mean eighties for a

828
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: broken play because I figure, you know, the NFL says

829
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: that you can protect for two point seven seconds, and

830
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: we're shooting for three and a half because we work

831
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: on it all the time. But I don't have anybody

832
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: that can run the A D R dash in three

833
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: and half seconds. And so I mean, and I'm not

834
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: saying it isn't handy, Like once in a while, the

835
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: guard gets you know, the guard gets his ass kicked,

836
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: and you roll out and then all of a sudden

837
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: you find somebody that's way down field or you know,

838
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: you you don't make a good decision. You hold the ball.

839
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: You hold the ball. Now they've developed downfield, you've got

840
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: good protection and and uh and then you throw it.

841
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: It's handy, it's good to have, but um, you know,

842
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: then you're you're dealing in broken plays. And you'll have

843
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: some broken plays, but you want to have as few

844
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: as possible. Coach with your with your offense and with

845
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: Luke in particular, the decision making. How much of it

846
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: is is pre and how much of it is post snap. Uh,

847
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: it would be both, I mean pretty snapp. He wants

848
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: to get an idea of how he thinks it might unfold,

849
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: and uh look at leverage, and then once it's snapped,

850
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: he'll see it develop. And then he's got a you know,

851
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: he's got a sequence that he uh moves to from

852
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: there and we let him check the line of scrimmage

853
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 1: to you know what, because he gets the last look.

854
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: Quarterback gets the last look and the last um opportunity

855
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: to adjust to play. And it's not just you know,

856
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: to bunker down. I mean a lot of it is, uh,

857
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: hey we've got something here. I mean there's something we

858
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: can't pass this up. They might not line up in

859
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: this again, We've got it now, you know. So Yeah, coach, Finally,

860
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: when I look at the tape and I'm looking at

861
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: Luke on offense and I'm looking at your offense, it

862
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: really appears that you guys have a real small package

863
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: of plays, but you're really good at executing. Is that

864
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: something that's by design that you just believe that execution

865
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: beats all the other stuff. We're gonna master what we

866
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: do instead of trying to trick people with a bunch

867
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: of different plays. I think that's pretty accurate. I mean

868
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: that that that's pretty accurate because no matter what uh football,

869
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: no matter how fancy you are, as a game of execution,

870
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: and you you know, uh, sometimes you talk to the

871
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: media and they think it's like, you know, it's like

872
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: watching an episode of The road Runner or something where

873
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: it's like, Wiley Coyote, you're gonna fool him, and you've

874
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: got a really cool invention and and you know, and

875
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: and and maybe you'll splat the guy or something. But

876
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: um no, it's uh, you know, because the one thing

877
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: you can control on your offense, you can control the

878
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: fact that you run it every day. And if all

879
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're grab bagging offense, run one offense

880
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: this week and one the next week, uh, you haven't

881
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: controlled the fact that you can work on executing it

882
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: all the time. And uh, because the defense has to

883
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: adjust to the variety of offenses they're gonna play. And

884
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: so one advantage you have an offense, you can do

885
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: it every day. And if you do it every day,

886
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: you can at least be more experienced and more polished

887
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: at doing it than they aren't defending it. I'll tell

888
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: you what, coach, I wish we could sit here and

889
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: talk to you. I can talk to you for an

890
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: hour and a half, two hours. This is It's been

891
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We wish you the best to

892
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: luck this fall. Well, thanks so much. Good luck to

893
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: you guys. Thanks all right, Bucky thrilled to be joined

894
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: by Colorado head coach Mike McIntyre. Now, and I know, Bucky,

895
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: you've got you've got a little history with coach mac.

896
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell him a story and see if

897
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: he remembers this. But you I was scouting, we both

898
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: scouting Leak for a long time. But I was with

899
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: the phil Off Eagles. You're at San Jose State, so

900
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: I guess, and this is eleven or twelve or something

901
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: like that. I come in there early in the morning,

902
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: one of those days where you actually by yourself, which

903
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: is rare on the road, and I mere, I'm in

904
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: there watching tape and you just popped your head in

905
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: there and said, hey, we're getting ready to watch last

906
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: week's games. You want to pop in here. So I

907
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: came in there with your staff. Your entire staff just

908
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: sat there and we just broke down the tape and

909
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: watch it. I thought, Okay, now, this is a good dude, man,

910
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: because as scout, remember that now, as scouts, there's times

911
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: where you know it's not it's a little bit of

912
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: a cold shoulder, but man, you were wide open. It's

913
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: something that I know every scout appreciates how open you've

914
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: been with everybody. Think you appreciate that, coach. One of

915
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: the things we're trying to talk to a lot of

916
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: coaches about here, quarterback position is the most difficult one

917
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 1: to scout, as you know, looking at kids in high school.

918
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: If you could just narrow it down just one trade,

919
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: the one thing they gotta have. You can work with

920
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: some other things arms strengthen this out of the other.

921
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: But the one thing they have to possess to have

922
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: a chance at your level. Wow, you know, I think

923
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm always I'm still kind of learned this from Bill Parcels.

924
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm still looking for size with athletic ability. Now it

925
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: might not be they have to run a four six,

926
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: but they can move in the pocket and be able

927
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: to make throws without having there half their feet set,

928
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: and I think that's so critical, and they can still

929
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: be accurate. So we're looking for size, ability to move

930
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: and be accurate when they have to move or move

931
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: in the pocket and slide and they don't have to

932
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: throw it always at the same level and be pretty

933
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: They can be accurate that way and have a quick release. So, um,

934
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: that's what we look for. And then after that, I'm

935
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: looking for all the intangibles, you know, once I get

936
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: to try to get to know him, try to see

937
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: different things with them. How do you do that? Um, Well,

938
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks it's a little bit easier, a little bit easier, um,

939
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: because I call him the Golden Child. They kind of

940
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: start getting recruited earlier. They kind of go around more,

941
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: so they come on your campus a couple more times.

942
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: You're able to spend a little bit more time with them. Uh.

943
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: Usually they like to talk on the phone a little

944
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: bit more than the other guys, so you can kind

945
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: of get to know them. Um. But um, you know,

946
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm also you know, I'm looking for a guy. Um,

947
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: just like the rest of my players, I really still

948
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: look for a guy with a chip on his shoulder.

949
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: I really don't want a guy that thinks he's all bad,

950
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: he's got all the answers already, and that he thinks

951
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: that we're there to serve him. And I want I

952
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: want a quarterback and wants to come in and wants

953
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: to serve others. And when they have that heart and

954
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: that attitude, I believe that the kids, the other players

955
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: are buying into it. But if they think they're all that,

956
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: I don't. I've seen that falter a lot more times

957
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: than I have the other way. Congratulations on your success.

958
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: Thank you. We've been fans of the way you do

959
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: business and we're excited for the future. They're called right.

960
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thanks, thank you all excited to be joined

961
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: by Arizona head coach Rich Rodriguez coach, Thanks for takes

962
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: some time for us here. Thanks for having me. This

963
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: is good. When you're you're a you're a friend of

964
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: ours because from our scouting days, you're always wide open.

965
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: They always treated us well. I've always appreciated that your

966
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: philosophy standpoint dealing with scouts that come from I wonder

967
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: why you wouldn't like I mean something. You know a

968
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: lot of coaches are paranoid anyway, but I mean when

969
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: you have an NFL scout or an NFL uh staff

970
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: member wanting to come and look your guys. Isn't there

971
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: what you want? And so we built a room just

972
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: for the scouts, you know, which is pretty nice. And

973
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: then we're open about it. I mean, the guys are

974
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: gonna be professional. They're not gonna talk about schemes whatever.

975
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: They just want to look at your guys. So we

976
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: we appreciate the attention. Before we get to talking about

977
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: this year's Arizona team, I want to go back and

978
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: and talk about where you kind of formed this offense

979
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: because I went to Appalachian State played quarterback there and

980
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: I finished up in two thousand. Before my senior year,

981
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: our staff went down to Clemson and spent time with

982
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: you and brought some of your stuff up. And I

983
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: told Bucky, I said, man, I wish I was a

984
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: run around quarterback a little bit. I said, wish I

985
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: could have played in this system for a full for

986
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: a full four years. But where did you start forming

987
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: your offensive philosophy? We really started when I was at

988
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Glenville State. And that's a little small school, Division two

989
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: school in the middle West Virginia, and we did it

990
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: out of necessity you know, that's where everything gets invented

991
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: right out of necessity. But I had a I had

992
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: a you know, a bunch of little short, stubby lineman.

993
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I said, I can get five of them get run

994
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: over slowly. I had me about a five ten quarterback

995
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: that could throw it. Uh, he wasn't a runner then.

996
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: And then I had I said, I can get some

997
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: skill guys, and I'll just spread people out and you know,

998
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: run a two minute drill the whole game because you

999
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: can control conditioning. Right. Well, we wind up doing and

1000
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: then then the zone read thing kind of came by

1001
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: accident towards the end of that deal. And then I

1002
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: go to you know, Tulane had Shaun King there and

1003
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: he could run a little bit, not as fast as

1004
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: he thinks, but he could run with it. And then

1005
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: then I had Woody Dancelor Clemson who could really drove.

1006
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: And then when I go to West Virginia, all of

1007
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: a sudden you recruited guy like Pat White and they

1008
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: take it to another dimension. So it it kind of

1009
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: morphed over the time. And then you know, as coaches,

1010
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: there's no patents on schemes, and so you didn't you know,

1011
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: everybody learns from everybody else in this profession. But it

1012
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: was and it's evolved since then with the r p

1013
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: O s and some of the other stuff that that

1014
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 1: we're doing. But it was fun the first few years.

1015
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: You know, as I always said that Glembo. When we

1016
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: first did it, there was only five people in the stands,

1017
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: and I'm related to four or ninety, so no I

1018
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: got a standing ovation after a first down, I'm like, hell,

1019
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: I ain't never leaving this place. This is perfect. I

1020
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: went up staying there seven years. But it was good.

1021
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: You know, coach so much of our league, I know

1022
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: you here, and I know college coaches get frustrated when

1023
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: they hear NFL people talk about the lack of quarterbacks

1024
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: and quarterbacks not being developed in those things. As a

1025
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: college coach, what do you look for in a quarterback?

1026
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: And what are we as NFL people missing When it

1027
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: comes to be very way in the quarterball there's a

1028
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: talk about okay, you know it just it's kind of

1029
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: a musing. It's like, you know, if you if you

1030
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: haven't played under center, and then you know you're playing

1031
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: a pro style. Last I looked at the league in

1032
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: the NFL, I mean sixty six percent and snaps and

1033
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: the shotgun I could teach, yeah, I could teach a

1034
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: third grade or how to take a three step drop

1035
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: under center in about five minutes. But to teach you

1036
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: got to catch and throw without the laces, and in

1037
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: the shotgun, that's a learned skill. So I think guys

1038
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: are more prepared, believe or not, to get rid of

1039
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: the ball quicker and make faster reads in the NFL

1040
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: now than they were ten fifteen years ago. I watched

1041
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Paid Manning and them dudes are catching

1042
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: and throwing and making quick decisions without and throwing without

1043
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: the laces. They were doing that ten twenty years ago

1044
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: at any level. So I think guys are more prepared

1045
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: now that now. From a scheme standpoint. What's different and

1046
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: what changes a little bit, and some of it, I

1047
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: obviously is is the way the leagues are developed whatever

1048
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: in the different levels that you know, there's the way

1049
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: the terminology goes. There's some play calls in the in

1050
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: some systems that are whole paragraphs, you mean, you forget

1051
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: what you're coming by the time you get to the

1052
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: end of it, and in college it's less worthy. And

1053
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: so that's an adjustment times. But guys that are smart

1054
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: enough to play that position can learn the terminology and

1055
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: the play calls, plus your calling plays through headsets, and

1056
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: so they don't necessarily have to do that. But uh,

1057
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't think there's as much adjustment. You either can

1058
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: play you can't play. What's the one thing or a

1059
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: couple of things you're looking at when you're evaluating the

1060
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: quarterback though, I mean you say, Okay, you gotta start

1061
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: with this, you gotta have this, and I can work

1062
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: around everything. Well, I mean you want you know, for us,

1063
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: you hopefully you have a guy's athletic enough to run

1064
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: and make you know, if he's fast, fast and he

1065
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: makes big runs instead of normal runs. Uh, everybody always

1066
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: gotta be able to throw, but more than you can

1067
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: always talk equated to. For us, we want a quarterback

1068
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: that's like a point guard that can shoot the three,

1069
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: you know, the Steph Curry kind that can you know,

1070
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: he'll he if you give him the three or shoot

1071
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: the three. But if you play tid, he's gonna drive

1072
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: to the basket, you know, maybe closer to Kyrie Irving

1073
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: or something. Now I'm gonna start getting the Lebron chains.

1074
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: But if he's a point guard, all you could do

1075
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: is shoot and he can't drive. Or if you all

1076
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: he could do is driving, you can't shoot, and then

1077
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna be limited. A little bit doesn't mean he

1078
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: can't be good, but you're gonna be limited. You know,

1079
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: the point guard that could shoot the three. And it's

1080
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: not only when you're passing, you know, passing it to

1081
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: the right guy. It is the timing of it. It's

1082
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: like leading a fast break right if you if you're

1083
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: a two on one and you pass it too soon,

1084
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: the guy can defend both of him. But if you

1085
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: draw him to you and then pass it. And that's

1086
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: what like in college with the r P O s

1087
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: and and some of the run pass stuff and the

1088
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: things that you do, that's really where separates the good

1089
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: ones from the from the average ones. Dumber Oregon head

1090
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: coach new head coach Willie Taggert, coach, thanks for spending

1091
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: some time with us here before we before we get

1092
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: to the Ducks. From you know, our scouting background, we're

1093
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: always looking to to the next level, to the future.

1094
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: I want to get your take just on one of

1095
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: your players at your previous stop in your quarterback and

1096
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: Quentin Flowers. Um, phenomenal athlete. Um, really good football player,

1097
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, And uh, he's one of those guys that

1098
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: changed changed the game for us down there. You know,

1099
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: he's fun to watch, great football player to watch. He's

1100
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna always do something that's excite you, you know. And

1101
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: there's plenty of time with Hill do something like no no, no, yeah,

1102
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. But he is he is one heck

1103
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: of a football player. I remember watching we were both

1104
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: a big fans of running back last year coming to

1105
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: the draft, and then all said, your receiver A bunch

1106
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: of dudes. But every time I would watch South Florida

1107
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: either with you were watching somebody else against you, I'm like,

1108
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: why is that we talking about this quarterback? Man? This

1109
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: dude's making all kinds of plays. Yeah, he's he's a dude,

1110
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: you know. And Um, again, he's a really good football

1111
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: player and one of those kids that love to play

1112
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: the game. Highly competitive, you know. But he's one of

1113
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: those guys too to get his football team to play

1114
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: for him, you know. And um, and that's what changed

1115
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: the game for us down there, you know, coaching and

1116
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: thinking about that, we were really fascinated by quarterbacks and

1117
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: orderback play. And there a couple of different things that

1118
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: I asked. But first, um, you were a guy that

1119
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: you're more pro style when you were previous stocks more

1120
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: traditional kind of Sunday football. South Florida is somewhere there.

1121
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: You change as a coach. Do you build your program

1122
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: around what your quarterbacks can do when it comes to

1123
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: game planet or are you a guy that we have

1124
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: a system and our guys need to fit what we do. Um, really,

1125
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: you try to put guys in a position to be successful.

1126
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: You know what they can do well. And uh, we

1127
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: were West Coast at w KU, and when we got

1128
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: to South Florida and it wasn't working the way we

1129
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: wanted to part of we didn't necessarily have all the personnel,

1130
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: but as those guys as were recruited and got guys

1131
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: in there, Um, we for me personally went back and

1132
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: watched some of the high school family. He's got a

1133
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: pretty good doing these things. And then one day one

1134
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: week open week, Uh, I was like, let's try some

1135
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: of this spress stuff with Quentin. And again we had

1136
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: never done it before, and we did it within one

1137
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: week and it was boom. It was simple and it

1138
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: was and fast and and then that that same season, uh,

1139
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: we won four ball games, and the four games we won,

1140
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: we were in two minute mode and our guys was

1141
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: just having fun playing ball. And it was for me,

1142
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: it was like these guys screaming to me, coach, we

1143
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: need to go this route. So at the end of

1144
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: the season, we committed to hum going to the spread,

1145
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, and we we talked and watched a lot

1146
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: of a lot of teams out there, and we watched Oregon,

1147
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: we watched UM Baylor, we watched Auburn, Clemson, and we

1148
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: kind of put it all together, you know, and put

1149
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: it all and made it one and made it unique

1150
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: for us, you know, and again it made a world

1151
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: of a difference. Our players have fun doing and we

1152
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: set all kinds of records there at USL, and our

1153
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: football program turned around. So when you're looking at quarterbacks

1154
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: now going forward, you're you're recruiting high school kids, what

1155
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: are some of those maybe two or three courtraits You're

1156
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: looking at and saying, Okay, we can work around everything else,

1157
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: but he's got to have this. Well, he's gotta be

1158
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: accurate throwing the football, you know, and making smart decisions.

1159
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: You know. I think any quarterback out there. You want

1160
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: them to take care of the football and make uh

1161
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: and being able to make the throws and and being

1162
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: accurate with it, you know, um, being smart, highly competitive,

1163
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, probably one of the most important things has

1164
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: been tough, you know, physically and mentally. You know, everybody's

1165
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: watching them, his teammates watching them, and you want to

1166
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: be mentally tough and show that with his teammates and

1167
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: physically you know. Um, you like a guy that can

1168
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: get you to at least two first downs with his feet.

1169
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: You know, you can get a guy like that. I

1170
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: can work with that guy, get you out a little trouble,

1171
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: exactly right, you know. But he's got to be a winn.

1172
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: If he's a winn in high school, and there's a

1173
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: chance he'll bill winning in college. So this is interesting

1174
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: because that has come up. So we've talked every coach

1175
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: that comes to We always are just fascinated by that position.

1176
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: So in in the NFL, it's the harder. It's hard

1177
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: one to scout. I'm sure it's like that even going

1178
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: down in the high school. But we've had a couple

1179
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: of guys that have mentioned this now winning, So let

1180
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: me present a scenario where you've got a kid with

1181
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: unbelievable physical tools, he's at a school program. They went

1182
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: three games. Is that a deal breaker for you? Well,

1183
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: it depends who we have around them, you know. You

1184
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: gotta have pieces to A quarterback can't be good if

1185
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: you don't have a good receiver, you know, or some

1186
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: good back that they could take it off of him.

1187
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: So I think you gotta look in high school, you

1188
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: gotta look at the big picture. Just what else do

1189
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: we have with him? You know? But um, him being

1190
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: pretty good. Um, but if it's close, if it's close

1191
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: between player and player B, could that be a deciding

1192
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: factor they had this kid rattled off this side of

1193
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: the other win wise, and the other kid was on

1194
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: a on a tough team. Well, again, like I said,

1195
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: it depends on who he had around him, you know,

1196
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: I think that makes I mean, I don't We've got

1197
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: these great quarterbacks, but they got guys to throw two

1198
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: and catching the ball and doing things for him. Are

1199
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 1: they in a great system or they're on a team

1200
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: that's just more dominant than the others. You know, you

1201
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: gotta look at all of those, you know. But I know,

1202
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: watching high school film like go back and film don't lie.

1203
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: And if they're playing against someone that's not as good,

1204
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: then you expect from the dominate. That's what you look for.

1205
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be playing on that same level. You know.

1206
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: But again you leave you're you're good in high school.

1207
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: You make plays in high school. You're gonna make plays

1208
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: in college, you know. So so now they're bringing it forward.

1209
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: You're in a conference that has a lot of quarterbacks.

1210
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks kind of drive whose wins in this thing? So

1211
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: when you're looking at the quarterbacks in this league, what

1212
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 1: are some of the common denominators that you see from

1213
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: the really good ones? Um they highly competitors, you know,

1214
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: and their football teams don't win it. He goes hand

1215
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: in hand, hand in hand, you know, and and you

1216
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: just when you watch them play, you can tell that

1217
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: their team rally around them. You know. I look at

1218
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback at Washington, You're watching those guys rally around here.

1219
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: You look at Sam Donald, you know, those guys rallied

1220
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: around him and playing and to meet that's a special

1221
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: trade to have, you know. And that's that's a lot

1222
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: of things that's happening off the field, not just on

1223
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: the field, you know, And um, so I think that's

1224
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: that's really important. Now you talked about that because you

1225
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: talked about it you at South Florida with Quentin Flowers

1226
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: and how the guys kind of played for him. What

1227
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: is can you quantify what the in factor is? Is

1228
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: that's something that you just you you know it when

1229
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: you see it. But it's like, how do you quantify that?

1230
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: How do you know if that player has that? Well?

1231
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: I think one of them is you see the relationship

1232
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: with their players when when you see them just walking

1233
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: around and how they interact with their teammates, you know,

1234
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: I think that says a lot about that that quarterback.

1235
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 1: You look at the response you get from your teammates

1236
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: when that quarterback makeup play it and practice tells you

1237
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: a lot, you know. Or you look at when someone

1238
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: bumped the quarterback when they shouldn't them and how guys

1239
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: react to it. That says a lot, you know about

1240
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: how guys feel about those guys, you know. And then

1241
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: just those guys the way they play and the motion

1242
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: that they show, and I mean, I think that makes

1243
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: a big difference and being a great quarterback and one

1244
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: guy will again guys that want to play for you.

1245
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: The last question on the quarterback thing for me. On

1246
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: the scouting community teams I worked for, we were always

1247
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: responsible if we had a quarterback in our area, we

1248
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: had to see him play live. And it was kind

1249
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: of some of the stuff you're talking about. We want

1250
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: to see how to interact with their teammates when you're

1251
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: recruiting at that at that position, guys have their different

1252
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: areas are responsible for. I know it's difficult during the season,

1253
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: but you try and get a set of eyes on

1254
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: a live game at that position. In high school, we

1255
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: do we u we always go out and watch a

1256
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: kid play at some point, you know. Um. Nowadays you

1257
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: get all these cut ups and we're just good and

1258
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: usually highlights are all good places, you know, and and

1259
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: and at that position, to me, you want to you

1260
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: want to see a guy, how a guy respond after

1261
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: throwing the interception and making a backthrow. I think that's

1262
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: more important than anything, you know, um um. You also

1263
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: want to see a game and just see how that

1264
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: the quarterback make plays on third down, you know, I

1265
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: think that's really important. You know, that's really important to

1266
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: moving to change you know, first down. It's an easy

1267
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: to back and do some things, you know, but that

1268
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: that money down. You want to see how they react.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's so important. Coach, You're popular, man,

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Speaker 1: I know you gotta run, but we appreciate you taking

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Speaker 1: some time. I appreciate you. Guys. They have a great

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Speaker 1: day if you want to excidy to be joined by

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Speaker 1: Arizona State head coach Todd Graham. Coach, I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest challenge of any coach or a program is finding

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Speaker 1: the right guy quarterback. And so when you look at

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Speaker 1: this game and you talk about the development of the position,

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Speaker 1: what are the courts race that you look for at

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Speaker 1: that position. That's really simple. You know, I've I've I've

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Speaker 1: done this a long time, and uh, I've never had

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00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback controversy that was very controversial on the team.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows who it is, even you know, we had

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Speaker 1: these guys that you know, we had three guys when

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Speaker 1: I first got there is on the state and you

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Speaker 1: you you watched you know, two of them throw the football.

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Speaker 1: You just go like, goly. I mean, they would just

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Speaker 1: kill Taylor Kelly in a quarterback competition. But Taylor Kelly

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Speaker 1: Man was the quarterback, not any question about it. And

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Speaker 1: after the first four days of camp, now we didn't

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Speaker 1: name him till the last week, and there were there

1290
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: was competition, no doubt, because you know, Mike berke Viats

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00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: is extremely talented, but Taylor's a guy won twenty eight

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Speaker 1: football games with And it's just simple. You know, you

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Speaker 1: gotta have leadership at your quarterback position. And here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know how to define that.

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00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: It's simply this. It's gotta be a and that sets

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Speaker 1: the standards when it comes to the values of your program,

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Speaker 1: and they have to elevate the other ten guys. That's it, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm watching every day and guy, you can

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Speaker 1: tell by the way they interact and they get in

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Speaker 1: that huddle the belief, because man, it's it's about respect. Man.

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Speaker 1: You respect the guy man that they can get it

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Speaker 1: done and and and and how he does anything's how

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Speaker 1: he does everything right. Quarterback standard is is really really high.

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Speaker 1: I tell our coaches all the time. I said, my mentality,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty pretty passionate, pretty type aid guy. I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want me to be the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We want to get much more, much more, much more.

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Speaker 1: And and I'm saying I tell our guys this, I say, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: when that guy earns that jib, man, there's a respect

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Speaker 1: that comes along. It's so we can't be yelling and

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Speaker 1: screaming at the quarterback on game day. I mean yelling

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Speaker 1: to screaming him in a week if you want to,

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Speaker 1: but not night on game day. And so it's really

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Speaker 1: I've never been on a team. It'll separate itself and

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Speaker 1: you just all you gotta do is watch who's the

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Speaker 1: guy takes team down scores. That's it, man, I mean

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Speaker 1: and and and to be a leader, you've got to

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Speaker 1: elevate the other people around you. And then when it

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Speaker 1: comes to our who are we, man, We're about character, smart, discipline, tough.

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Speaker 1: We're a discipline program. So they got you know, two

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Speaker 1: out of the three quarterbacks we've had at Arizona State

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Speaker 1: with a scholar Athlete of the Year in the pack twelve.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I like that because I'm trusting

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Speaker 1: those guys with my job. So I want guys. I

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Speaker 1: want guys that are very dependable. Here with our good

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Speaker 1: friend Stanford head coach David Shaw, coach, I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: taking some time. One of the things we've been asking

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Speaker 1: all the coaches that have rolled through here. Um, with

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Speaker 1: our kind of fascination with the quarterback position. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about this a little bit before, but if you could

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Speaker 1: kind of narrow it down when you're recruiting and you're

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00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: evaluating that position, what the two or three most important

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Speaker 1: factors are at the top of your list, because it's

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Speaker 1: fascinating you can imagine with the different offenses in this league,

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot of different answers. Oh, there's no question.

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Speaker 1: And for us it's maybe a little unique in our

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Speaker 1: conference and really in the nation. Um, but for me

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Speaker 1: to be able to see a young man standtall in

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Speaker 1: the pocket and throw the ball between windows inside the hashes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's our football. That's NFL football. And

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Speaker 1: so we we love the NFL prototype. Guys. We would

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Speaker 1: love to have some measure of size, uh, some measure

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Speaker 1: of athleticism. Um, they gotta be athletic. I love it

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01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: when they play another sport. I love it when they

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Speaker 1: play basketball or baseball or something else. I love when

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Speaker 1: they have something else that they do. Um, but the

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01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: thing for us, we love to have some kind of stature.

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Speaker 1: They've gotta have great feed, hopefully a quick release and

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Speaker 1: I try not to mess with their release because that's

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Speaker 1: just who they are. But at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 1: a guy throws forty bubble screens in a game, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be hard for me to evaluate. So for us,

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Speaker 1: if they're coming from that kind of a style high school,

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Speaker 1: I have to see them live. I have to see

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Speaker 1: them on our campus. I have to see them in

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Speaker 1: our camp before I can make a true determination um

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Speaker 1: of what whether or not they can fit in our

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Speaker 1: in our in our world. You know, coach and and

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Speaker 1: and think about that and continue to play it for

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Speaker 1: it because you've had great quarterbacks that you've been around,

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Speaker 1: that you've coached those trade sorry essential, but from an

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Speaker 1: intangible standpoint, what are you looking for from guys that

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Speaker 1: are your field generals. The other part of coming to

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Speaker 1: campus is they're gonna sit down and talk ball with us.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what they understand. I want on

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Speaker 1: what they're looking at. And at an early age they're

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Speaker 1: not really sure sometimes, But if guys can verbalize it

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Speaker 1: and you can get them to kind of see it

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Speaker 1: and and cannet, can they talk the game? Can they

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Speaker 1: absorb the game? Because we're gonna ask our quarterback to

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Speaker 1: see the front for the running game, and see the

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Speaker 1: coverage for the passing game, and be able to go

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Speaker 1: through protections, be able to change protection from one protection

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Speaker 1: to another. Uh know that I just changed my hot

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Speaker 1: by changing my protection. Now now my hearts on the left,

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01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: it is not on the right anymore. And now I

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01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: have this breakoff. Now I have all these things that

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Speaker 1: I have to see. Um, they gotta have some football acumen.

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Speaker 1: They gotta have some football uh, some football smarts. Um.

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Speaker 1: So we we try to diagnose that early on. No

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Speaker 1: One full well though that once we get them, we're

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01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: gonna teach them. But there has to be some general

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01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: understanding of of the game of football that does not

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01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: just involve throwing the ball from point A to point B. Black.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a really informative a couple of

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Speaker 1: days for us here. You got a chance. I always

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Speaker 1: speak some of these players, some of which we're gonna

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01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: see in this next draft class, others a little further

1389
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: down the line. But man, to me, the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: is obsessed as we are with it. I thought, we've

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01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: got some great answers from these coaches, great answers, great

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01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: nuggets from these coaches, And I think the common denominator.

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Speaker 1: You want a leader. You want to get us a

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01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: great decision maker, someone who is very accurate when it

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01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: comes to Thorndon ball, and they need to be athletic.

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Speaker 1: I love what we were able to take from this

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Speaker 1: because I think it will help me and maybe even

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01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: you when it comes to evaluating the draft prospects that

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Speaker 1: we're going to see over the next year. Point guards, Baby,

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Speaker 1: get us some point guards. Nothing wrong with that. Look

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Speaker 1: A lot, a lot of a lot of fun down

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Speaker 1: here at the PAC twelve me today. Thanks for the

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01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: PAC twelve for allowing us to set up shop here.

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01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: Uh something we need to do more of in the future.

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: I say, hey, we gotta get take this thing on

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01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: the road man slowly. I don't know if you can

1407
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: make this happen, but we like to get this. Uh

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01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: sec A C C wherever the quarterbacks are. Let's just

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01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: chase the quarterbacks. Quarterbacks. Let's do a sec You know

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Speaker 1: I'll always be down together, Hoover. Yeah, you're down with that. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: A lot of fun. I hope you guys enjoyed listening

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Speaker 1: to this. We're off the training camps, Buckey, so we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have tons of NFL content moving forward here as

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01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: we get a chance to visit some of these teams,

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01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: see how these young guys are doing, and some other

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01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: exciting things in the hopper here for moving to sticks.

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Speaker 1: So thank you guys for listening, thanks for downloading, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for subscribing. Let's see you next time. Thanks for downloading

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