00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invite, did you hear? I thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no guests. Your presences presence enough. I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 2: To surbey me? Welcome to, I said no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. I you know, I didn't begin to think about what I would say at the beginning of the podcast, and so we're kind of here, just floating, panicking. We are in the backyard. The birds have been screaming. I've been to the grocery outlet. There was nothing there for me. The prices are as much as at the regular grocery store. So that's just something to consider before you head to the outlet. Ah oh, I did get a moon warning just a few minutes ago on my horoscope. I can't shop from six to nine forty five Chicago time tonight, so that's useful information. Please let's get into the podcast. I really love today's guest. It's Karen Gek. Karen, Welcome to. I said no gifts. 00:01:39 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 00:01:41 Speaker 2: I don't know I should spend four seconds thinking about what I might say at the beginning of a podcast. 00:01:47 Speaker 3: No, wait, I loved it. I have a question. Why is your moon set on Chicago time? 00:01:51 Speaker 2: Well, I just saw horoscope. I was looking at Google News, which is probably a bad idea, and there was like horoscope. I clicked on it and it was from a Chicago newspaper. 00:01:59 Speaker 3: Oh, I see. 00:02:00 Speaker 2: Picture of this, you know, beautiful woman in her maybe sixties and seventies, bright red hair. I think she may be the astrologer. 00:02:09 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm picturing my mom with bright red hair. 00:02:12 Speaker 2: And now I'm picturing my mom with bright red hair. 00:02:15 Speaker 3: Beautiful. 00:02:15 Speaker 2: Everyone take a moment to picture your mom with bright red hair. But I clicked on it just thinking what could it possibly have in store for me? And the moon warning was for everyone. Oh, I've never had a moon warning. Wait. 00:02:28 Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. 00:02:29 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:02:29 Speaker 3: It sounds like a Star Wars reference moon warning. 00:02:33 Speaker 2: Wait. 00:02:34 Speaker 3: So the moon is telling you not to. 00:02:35 Speaker 2: Shop, not to shop and I think make big decisions for about two and a half hours Chicago time. So I guess that will be around four pm LA time. 00:02:45 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, four PM's. 00:02:47 Speaker 2: A bad time to make decisions. 00:02:48 Speaker 3: Anyway. Yeah, I'm basically done making decisions, worn out. 00:02:52 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you haven't had dinner. No, should not be shopping? 00:02:56 Speaker 3: No, no shopping at four no no no, no. 00:02:59 Speaker 2: You won't catch me shopping at four pm. 00:03:00 Speaker 3: No, no, you'll catch me at home reading a book the Bible. 00:03:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's so nice to see you. I haven't seen you in a few months now. 00:03:14 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:03:15 Speaker 2: I feel like the last time I saw you, you were just about to go to Korea for the holidays. 00:03:20 Speaker 3: Yeah that's correct. Oh, you have such a good. 00:03:21 Speaker 2: Memory, very good memory. 00:03:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh okay, take it back immediately. I was. Yeah, I saw you maybe like a day or two before I left LA. I think, yes, when I for the holidays. Had a really lovely time. 00:03:37 Speaker 2: And yeah, how long were you in Korea? 00:03:41 Speaker 3: I was there for I think like almost two weeks. I was my grandparents and basically all of my extended relatives live there, and so I went to go see them and hang out. And my grandma husband writing poetry. 00:03:54 Speaker 2: Oh this is a new development. Yeah, how wonderful. 00:03:57 Speaker 3: It's not amazing. I genuinely am so excit by it. She was born in nineteen thirty one, never did poetry until last April. 00:04:05 Speaker 2: What sparked this? 00:04:06 Speaker 3: I was sort of like, Grandma, you should do. 00:04:08 Speaker 2: Stuff, get a job. 00:04:10 Speaker 3: Well, I was trying to figure out new hobbies for her because her old hobbies she can't do anymore because her hand shakes, her eyes are kind of difficult to see. So she did a lot of like knitting and embroidery and stuff, and can't do that anymore. And so I would say, I screamed to get a job. But now I was like, what if we wrote stories? And she was like, that's. 00:04:29 Speaker 2: Too long, right, that's a huge commitment. 00:04:31 Speaker 3: It's a big commitment. 00:04:32 Speaker 2: Poetry is such a good hobby to take up. 00:04:35 Speaker 3: I think it is, and they're they're great. Like, I love her poems. I'm trying to turn them into a little book for her family. 00:04:41 Speaker 2: What sort of things is she writing about? 00:04:43 Speaker 3: Well, okay, this is the thing that we were all delighted by. Is a lot of them are kind of her perspective of well like it's her imagining of what it's like from the perspective of like ants or like the thoughts. 00:04:55 Speaker 2: Of the park. 00:04:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you is a poem about like a few of the birds that are sitting on a telephone wire and it's like their conversation of where they've come in from and like, oh my god, I saw that. 00:05:06 Speaker 2: She so natural. 00:05:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: Have you ever written any poetry? 00:05:11 Speaker 3: I feel like I have, but yeah, I feel like when I was like angsty in high school. 00:05:17 Speaker 2: I would love to have access to those. 00:05:20 Speaker 3: I'll write some new angsty poems for you. Yeah. Are you a poet? 00:05:24 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely not. I would love to be. 00:05:25 Speaker 3: I feel like I could see you being a lyricist. 00:05:28 Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate that. Let's get that out there. Let's get the buzz going up me being a lyricist. 00:05:33 Speaker 3: That a professional lyricist. Are you a music person? 00:05:36 Speaker 2: I love to listen to music, Okay. I can play chords on the piano and three chords on the guitar. 00:05:44 Speaker 3: Nice. 00:05:45 Speaker 2: And I can do a lot of air drumming in my car. Yeah, air base in my car. Well, actually the bass in my car is I play the steering wheel like the bass you okay, yes, you know, or like you put your finger the listener. This means nothing to listener, but you kind of pluck the steering wheel. 00:06:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, to turn the car left and right. 00:06:04 Speaker 4: My car's all over the road, but it's on rhythm. I do play an instruments. 00:06:13 Speaker 3: I do, butN not very well. I played them. I played violin a lot growing up. You're not good at it though, well, no, I think I used to be like good and then I haven't played in a long time. I was like obsessed with Itzac Pearlman as a child. Oh so I was like, this is the man to be. 00:06:31 Speaker 2: So you did enjoy playing. It wasn't like I can't, Like your parents are making you do and you're mad at them all the time. 00:06:37 Speaker 3: Oh gotcha? Yeah, yeah, no I didn't. And I remember like, because I went to this after school youth orchestra, and the stereotype, obviously is that a lot of like Asian children are forced to play piano and violin, and I remember the other eighteen kids would be like I can't believe it would be here, and I would always be like, this is a privilege. It's not very fun as a child, oh. 00:06:58 Speaker 2: I mean, but a dream for a Oh my god. I was like screaming at my mom, hiding in the back of the car, not wanting to go to piano lessons. 00:07:07 Speaker 3: Piano okay, and that's how you know the courts? Yes, yeah, yeah. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: Yeah. I took piano for probably ten years. 00:07:15 Speaker 3: So you probably got pretty good. 00:07:16 Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be wonderful? Wouldn't that be great if I had actually become used a decade of my life to perfect a skill and instead I could barely do it very bad. 00:07:29 Speaker 3: If you could suddenly wake up and be the master of one new skill, Oh my god, what would it be? 00:07:35 Speaker 2: I knew you were going to ask something like this. You're very good at asking questions that I'm like, I have to think about this. Oh yeah, because I wanted to have a meaningful I want to actually make the correct choice. I'd wake up and I have a brand new skill. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:07:48 Speaker 2: Okay. And it's like, what level are we talking about? Professional? 00:07:52 Speaker 3: I think professional? Yeah? 00:07:53 Speaker 2: Basketball? Whoa, Really, I'm suddenly a professional basketball. 00:07:57 Speaker 3: Actually, that's so awesome with Bridgert, this is so odd because my answer to that is soccer. We would both be athletes. 00:08:05 Speaker 2: We're going to take the sports world by storm. Wow. Interesting. Do you play soccer at all? I do. 00:08:15 Speaker 3: I'm not very good at it. 00:08:17 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:08:17 Speaker 3: When I was little, I really I watched it Air Bud, the soccer movie, and I was like, I have to do this. 00:08:22 Speaker 2: Looking up to the Golden Retree for. 00:08:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I never got as good as the Dog? Is that what you wanted to do? Basketball? 00:08:31 Speaker 2: Yeah? I guess that was Airbud's original sports. Yeah yeah, yeah, and then I got into soccer. Why am I calling it it? Poor dog? 00:08:38 Speaker 3: It was basketball, and then football and then soccer okay, and then also did volleyball in a different movie. 00:08:45 Speaker 2: When it was playing soccer, was it kicking it with its feet or nudging it with its nose? 00:08:50 Speaker 3: It was mostly like when it was shooting into the net, it would be nose time. But then I think when it was running down the field it was with its pause. But now maybe it was always nos. 00:09:01 Speaker 2: And is the Dog? I've never seen any of these movies? Is it playing against human beings? Is that true? 00:09:08 Speaker 3: Yes, you've never seen Oh. 00:09:11 Speaker 2: My gosh, I'm obviously very familiar with Everybodies. I mean I've seen every one of the covers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've never seen one of them films. Okay, so this is the prime the films. Yeah it is. 00:09:21 Speaker 3: It's cinema. It's about a sweet boy who looks like zac Efron. But isn't zach ephone sad story? He No, it's wonderful. He's like, oh my gosh, I'm on a basketball team and our team isn't very good, and then my dog is surprisingly so good. And then he brings the dog and then the referee is like, there's nothing in the rules that says a dog can't play basketball. 00:09:47 Speaker 2: Certainly there is. 00:09:49 Speaker 3: There isn't. That's what I'm saying. It is not there. 00:09:53 Speaker 2: The commissioner of the NBA sees the movie, it's like, we've got to get something in the language. 00:09:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such a good movie. 00:10:00 Speaker 2: So the boy is so bad at basketball that he has to Is he allowed to play basketball after the dog joins the team? 00:10:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he now kind of has to be there because the dog is so good. 00:10:10 Speaker 2: Is there any jealousy? 00:10:11 Speaker 3: No, that's a good question. No, he's a very nice boy. Also, maybe I'm misremembering how good or Baddie is at basketball. He's not very good at soccer. Okay, that's the movie I really zoned in on. 00:10:25 Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever I mean, I've been very bad at all sports, but soccer especially. Yeah, I don't know that I've ever really kicked a soccer ball, Like, I've never played a soccer game. Oh, okay, shocking. Yeah, yeah, that soccer to me feels like the sport you want to get your kids in. 00:10:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, you do, you really want to get your kids in that game. 00:10:44 Speaker 2: I feel like all of the soccer players I knew growing up were really well adjusted, nice people. 00:10:50 Speaker 3: Oh thank you, and I wouldn't. 00:10:53 Speaker 2: Look for you got proof right here, like a at least opposed to like, in comparison to the rest of the sports, most soccer players were like people you don't want me friends with. 00:11:05 Speaker 3: That's a good question. I mean, once again, I'm thinking of air, but I think that's true. I wonder if it has to do with the fact that there's so many more players on the field at a time, so it feels somehow less competitive than that. 00:11:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. And also I wonder if the fact that you can't really become a huge success as a soccer player in the United States, you're really doing it for the love of the game. 00:11:30 Speaker 3: Right, you're right, that's true. Yeah, that must be. 00:11:33 Speaker 2: Okay, we got to the bottom of that very quickly. 00:11:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to the moral of soccer. We're done. 00:11:39 Speaker 2: Now, are you back in New York now? 00:11:42 Speaker 3: Yes? Well, I will be starting Sunday. 00:11:45 Speaker 2: Okay, you're back and forth forth. 00:11:47 Speaker 3: I'm just here for like until Thursday. 00:11:50 Speaker 2: So what are you doing here right now? 00:11:51 Speaker 3: I'm covering set for my episode for the show that. 00:11:54 Speaker 2: I oh, but you can talk about. 00:11:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll talk about it stuff. What if I say half true stuff and half lies. 00:12:03 Speaker 2: I think that's a very good publicity strategy. 00:12:05 Speaker 3: And not nobody will know. 00:12:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 00:12:08 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like a new comedy and it's about a sweet old grandpa who goes undercover in like a senior home. It's based on a documentary called The Mole Agent. 00:12:17 Speaker 2: Oh wonderful. 00:12:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they go to space. 00:12:26 Speaker 2: Is any of this Do you shoot any of it in an actual senior home? 00:12:30 Speaker 1: No? 00:12:30 Speaker 3: They built it. Okay, this is You've probably seen this a lot, but this is my first time covering set, okay. And I've never seen a set for show get built before, right, And they do it so fast. It looks so real. 00:12:46 Speaker 2: And I'm always like, this must be so dangerous. 00:12:49 Speaker 3: It must be so dangerous. 00:12:50 Speaker 2: I can't build a realistic thing that quickly without it like cutting some corners. 00:12:54 Speaker 3: I know what you mean. But I will see on the first day went and I kind of gently pushed on all the walls just to see if I would stand in it. 00:13:00 Speaker 2: Do so it can stand up to a gentle. 00:13:03 Speaker 3: Place, yea by a very strong. 00:13:06 Speaker 2: Woman, strong yet gentle. 00:13:09 Speaker 3: But whenever when I saw this, I was like, every time I see a home renovation project, it takes so long forever, yeah, and clearly they can get the job done really fast, right. Yeah. 00:13:21 Speaker 2: I mean I grew up in a house that was basically under construction my entire life. Oh, my dad was always like fixing something in the house, and we like we ripped out the backyard when I was in maybe fifth grade, and then just never had one again. So it was things like this where that I'll see a building get built in six months and I'll be like that that's a miracle. Yeah, we couldn't get like the basement done in five years. 00:13:44 Speaker 3: There's a pit you lived in the lived in a pit. Wait, what was your backyard before it was towards that. 00:13:49 Speaker 2: It was just a regular backyard. There was lawn okay yeah, and maybe a tree or whatever. 00:13:55 Speaker 3: Nice. 00:13:55 Speaker 2: And then my dad I was like, let's do the backyard. We ripped it all out and then it just remained ripped out. 00:14:02 Speaker 3: I wonder if this is a dad thing, because my dad also at one point was like we should get ourselves a deck, and we were kind of like, the ground is. 00:14:11 Speaker 2: Fine, what is the deck going to add to our lives? 00:14:14 Speaker 3: Nothing? But except he made the deck too tall? How tall was It's like a foot off the ground And he was so proud of getting the decks done with his friend Gary, and then my mom and I came home. We were like, why is the deck so tall? And it was clearly hurting his feelings, So we'll be like, it's a dream to have a tall deck. 00:14:35 Speaker 2: Wait, but were you expecting the deck to be flush with the ground. 00:14:39 Speaker 3: Well, we thought maybe like at most two inches above, like just. 00:14:43 Speaker 2: That's a dance floor. It's when you say deck, I kind of I'm on your dad's side now I'm actually in a fight with you know, a. 00:14:51 Speaker 3: Foot is so high? We were like, what have animals live in there? 00:14:54 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's what a deck is mostly for raccoons, badgers things to live underneath. What is four as far as I'm concerned? And then occasionally a person can walk on top of it? 00:15:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you should come over and see our high deck. 00:15:08 Speaker 2: Did you get any animals under there. 00:15:10 Speaker 3: I don't think so, because I think we put up such a stink about it that my daughter put in fencing on the other side. 00:15:15 Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, yeah. I think we had a little bit of a deck in our backyard that had kind of that like lattice wood on the sides of it. That's exactly to keep most animals except for rats and snakes. 00:15:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the ones we like. They're welcome a. 00:15:33 Speaker 2: Snake pit under our house. Oh boy, okay, so you're here, you're working, you're having the time of your life. 00:15:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you up to? 00:15:42 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Karen, absolutely nothing. I've watched so much TV in the last week. Actually, I'm very encouraged by the fact that I've seen two TV shows I actually liked watching. Are you allowed to say I liked watching Ripley? Okay, have you seen or heard of this? 00:16:00 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the black and white show that's. 00:16:02 Speaker 2: So beautiful to look at. I was just telling on Elise, I've never seen a television show this beautiful. Wow, gorgeous. 00:16:08 Speaker 3: Wait, I'll watch it. 00:16:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, and thrilling. And you know it's a story of a con man, which is always entertaining. 00:16:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is entertaining. 00:16:15 Speaker 2: And then I watched a show called Baby Reindeer. Okay, have you heard of this? 00:16:20 Speaker 3: No, but this sounds right eye. 00:16:22 Speaker 2: Well whatever you're thinking, it's not that Oh okay, because when someone told me Baby Reindeer, I thought that's like a very low budget CGI children's movie. Yes, yes, this is a true story about a comedian who was working at a bar, is kind of friendly to this woman at the bar, and then she stocked him for six years. I think in this show, I think it's a little fictionalized. I think they condensed the time period, but this woman just essentially ruined his life. 00:16:50 Speaker 3: Oh my god, very. 00:16:52 Speaker 2: I mean I couldn't stop watching this. 00:16:54 Speaker 3: Wait is it based on a true story? 00:16:55 Speaker 2: Yes? Oh, and the guy in it is the person who did He ended up doing a one and show about it and has adapted it into this TV show. Wow, and it's uh, you know, that sounds horrifying, I think, and this, I'm sure I'm wrong about this, but she I think she sent him like forty thousand texts or emails or something, and she was emailing. She would put I mean, I would say sent from my iPhone at the bottom of every email. But she was sending it from her computer and typing sent from my iPhone. 00:17:23 Speaker 3: Okay, that's actually the most psycho part. 00:17:25 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a real doing. 00:17:28 Speaker 3: That to brag that she had an iPhone. 00:17:30 Speaker 2: I guess she told him that she. I think she was a lawyer at some point before she became kind of a professional stocker. 00:17:38 Speaker 3: That's scary, yeah. 00:17:40 Speaker 2: But very interesting to watch it a Arry. The name makes sense when you see it. But were you to just hear baby Reindeer, you think this is gonna be the sweetest TV was. 00:17:48 Speaker 3: Going to go home and watch it. 00:17:50 Speaker 4: I love children's show which shows. I love Arthur, Oh of course. 00:17:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I will say sometimes I think I'm a little too old for dragon tales. 00:17:58 Speaker 2: Oh I've never seen dragon tabs. 00:17:59 Speaker 3: I mean, it's up there with Ara, but it's such delight, But it doesn't hold up for adults the way Arthur does. Arthur is like still a joy. 00:18:06 Speaker 2: Arthur's a very whole wheat bread. You know, it feels healthy to watch. And yeah, it was a PBS show, Is that right? 00:18:14 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's a PBS show. It tastes like a whole wheat bread, but with like a little bit of a little bit of salt and pepper. It's got a little bit of spice to it. 00:18:24 Speaker 2: You're talking about a gross thing to eat a whole bit of bread. Watch, Yeah, Arthur, I think is good for everybody. 00:18:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. Did you watch Arthur growing up? 00:18:36 Speaker 2: Yes? But are they still producing Arthur or have we kind of closed up shop on our This is. 00:18:42 Speaker 3: Such a sad question. Which is they closed up shop like I think three years ago? 00:18:46 Speaker 2: Oh wow, So it ran for a long time. 00:18:48 Speaker 3: Twenty five years. 00:18:49 Speaker 2: It's too long, and. 00:18:51 Speaker 3: No, not long enough. 00:18:52 Speaker 2: I've bet the whole voice cast died twice. They probably had to just keep replacing them. 00:18:56 Speaker 3: They kept coming back to life to work on this show. One of the original boys. Actually this is not true for Arthur, never mind one of the original boys. Different show. It's Michael Sarah what Yeah, and the Bearnstein bear he did yeah, yeah, yeah, when he was like George Michael and arrested development or later. Oh, I almost want to say before or maybe he started out. Maybe that's how he got found for George Michael. 00:19:25 Speaker 2: Wow, they're scouting the Christian bear market. Yeah, wow, bearn Sain Bear's that is kind of a secretly religious bear. You're aware of this, yes, I am. 00:19:36 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was that that the original writers stan Jan bearnstate weren't as openly religious, right, and then they get like I either died or retired, and then their children did it and their children were really religious. Oh, and that's when it becomes like Baron Sein Bears celebrate Eastern Yeah, and they love Jesus like it gets it gets pretty overt. 00:19:59 Speaker 5: So this wild he was doing it at the same time. The first two seasons started at. 00:20:04 Speaker 6: The same time. 00:20:05 Speaker 5: Oh, that Arrested development started. Wow, two thousand and three. 00:20:09 Speaker 3: I mean, talk about range, talk about books. That's amazing. 00:20:13 Speaker 2: He was. That was like a real high point of his career. Animated live action. 00:20:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a big one. That's Those are also two shows that have zero overlap in terms of. 00:20:24 Speaker 2: Viewers, absolutely absolutely nothing. Are you aware of that? Bearonsin Bears. I think it's essentially a mean thing where people like believe that have expelled two different ways. 00:20:35 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, what is that. 00:20:38 Speaker 2: Two different timelines or something? 00:20:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everybody remembers it being spelled st e i N. But then you go back into st a i N and you're like what yeah. 00:20:49 Speaker 2: And then it's just I mean that simple explanation as you're just wrong. 00:20:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, just the simple obsivation is your numb I'm kidding. 00:20:56 Speaker 2: Sorry, what do you remember it as? 00:20:59 Speaker 3: I also had that where I just remember it as e I N. But then I remember I went from the books to watching the show, and I, for some reason my kid mind, I was like, the show is they spell it ai N and the books is ei A very different adaptations? Yeah, very very different adaptation. And then when I went back, I was but it didn't really do much to me. I'm sort of like, Okay, Marvi's remembered it. 00:21:20 Speaker 2: It does seem a little backwards because t e i N feels like a real last name. Yes, stain s t A i N feels like the way you would spell it as a kid. 00:21:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, it could be backwards. 00:21:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, remembered as stayin. But uh, you know, we've solved another problem. Just remembered things wrong. Yeah, and then made something about it on the internet. And now we have to why did I bring it up? If I'm so annoyed by it. 00:21:48 Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought it up. That's how we solved it. When you were little, did you ever want to be friends with a TV character. 00:21:56 Speaker 2: Oh, let's see. I mean I had a croush on flounder, the fish you did, yes, from a Little Mermaid. I think that was my first crush on anything. 00:22:06 Speaker 3: That's an amazing first rush to have. Wow, you were so weird A crush on flounder. Wow. 00:22:14 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he was very cute. 00:22:15 Speaker 3: He is very cute. He is a fish, but. 00:22:20 Speaker 2: He was very cute. And I think he had like a he basically had a flat top. 00:22:23 Speaker 3: That's true. He had a cute tough to here. 00:22:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, let's ultimately say it was very sexy. 00:22:31 Speaker 3: No, and you know what if you just focus on the face and not you know, imagine the sort of wriggling body behind him. He just a match in the face. It's a cute face. He would totally kiss that face. This makes sense. 00:22:43 Speaker 2: But then I never saw the live action version, but it seems like they made the flounder and that very sick looking. 00:22:49 Speaker 3: Wait, I haven't done a who voices flounder in the live action? 00:22:52 Speaker 2: Great question, but it looks more like an actual flounder fish, which is not cute. 00:22:57 Speaker 3: No, you're not like turned on every time you go to them? 00:22:59 Speaker 1: Right? 00:23:00 Speaker 6: Get Jacob Tremblay. 00:23:04 Speaker 2: Oh, that makes sense. 00:23:06 Speaker 3: Okay, Wait, I don't know who that is a room. 00:23:10 Speaker 2: I never saw a room. But that's the story or the thing about Actually, I don't know. It's something traumatic. 00:23:16 Speaker 3: I'm picturing a little boy for some reason. Is this not right? 00:23:19 Speaker 2: He was a little boy? Well, like many men, he was a little boy at some point. 00:23:24 Speaker 3: Stranger things. 00:23:25 Speaker 2: No, Okay, I know room and now I know Little Mermaid. 00:23:28 Speaker 3: Okay, Wow, great career. 00:23:30 Speaker 2: Excellent the range again, yeah. 00:23:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the Michael Sarrah of Our Times. 00:23:36 Speaker 2: Apologies to Michael Sarah. Oh yeah. Did you want to be friends with any animated characters? 00:23:42 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I really wanted to be friends with everybody on Arthur. My first big crush though, was Robin Hood the Fox. 00:23:48 Speaker 2: I mean that I feel like that's a classic. 00:23:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I will say, very different crush on a fish because it's got the whole arms and he basically has a human body. It's a human body that's you know, a little over grown hair. 00:24:00 Speaker 2: And he's in great shape, such good shape, charming, so charming, a do gooder, do gooder. Yeah that makes more sense, thank you. Okay. And the Arthur characters also seem very human like they seem like, Yes, they're not like exaggerated characters. They're kind of just normal little people. 00:24:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're normal little guys. They celebrate all the normal little stuff. 00:24:25 Speaker 2: And they love to read. 00:24:26 Speaker 3: They love to read. There's character in it called the Brain that I was like, that's my dream boyfriend. He's so smart. Yeah. 00:24:39 Speaker 2: Are you reading anything right now? 00:24:41 Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, I just started a couple of days ago this book called The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store. 00:24:45 Speaker 2: Oh, I've heard about this. What is it? 00:24:47 Speaker 3: It's great? Well, so it's gonna turn into more of like a mystery, I think so far it hasn't yet or I just have solved it. 00:24:56 Speaker 2: It's a very bad mystery. 00:24:58 Speaker 3: But it's fun because I'm kind of in like a little bit of a historical fiction mood, and so this is a historical fiction mood. And I've never read anything else by this author before. He wrote this book called The Good Lord Bird that I think was really famous. So I'll probably read that after this. But are you reading any show? 00:25:15 Speaker 1: Well? 00:25:15 Speaker 2: I still want to know what this mystery is about. 00:25:18 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, when I get to it, i'll send you a long voice meme about But. 00:25:21 Speaker 2: What is it? In general? What is the book about what period of history is it? 00:25:26 Speaker 3: Okay, it's like a twentieth century in Pennsylvania kind of. It's like about a Jewish family and then living in a very black neighborhood. And it was originally like a Jewish neighborhood and everybody kind of left, but then they stayed and they run this grocery store, and then the it's like between a couple and so the woman runs a grocery store where the man runs this theater, and he's kind of been like adapting to the times, and like anytime there's like a new exciting act, he'll he'll be like, oh, you should come on to a theater. And then all the other people who used to live there are like this is a disgrace kind of a thing. So they've left. But then she becomes very ill, and. 00:26:03 Speaker 2: Here's the mystery who made her sick. 00:26:08 Speaker 3: And then there's also they kind of end up taking care of this young boy who, without spoiling anything, gets taken away. Maybe I just I. 00:26:19 Speaker 2: Feel like you've named two clear mysteries so far. 00:26:25 Speaker 3: But it's very good. 00:26:27 Speaker 2: You should read it. Okay, I'll look into that. Yeah, I just finished Waco Rising. I've been complaining NonStop about We've got to stop talking about cults there. I mean, I think we're done with all the interesting ones. There's so many documentaries and I feel like we're scraping the bottom of the barrel with cults. Yeah, but Waco Rising, that book, that's a wild story. 00:26:45 Speaker 3: Whoa what cult is it? 00:26:47 Speaker 2: Wait? What? I don't know what that is. 00:26:51 Speaker 3: I was thinking, like Roy Star, waste. 00:26:55 Speaker 2: Star Royco Interesting. You may have just uncovered another missay. Waco was a standoff in Waco, Texas between a church religious sect called the Branch Davidians, led by a man named David Koresh not his real name, that was his Hollywood name he picked because he wanted to be more Hollywood. What was his real name. But it was a standoff between them and the government, and mistakes were made and it ended in fire. 00:27:26 Speaker 3: Wait really like they burned the place down. 00:27:29 Speaker 2: The place I think it's still kind of up in the air how the fire started. But the standoff lasted like two months and the fire obviously ended the thing. And there was still I think eighty people in the building. 00:27:43 Speaker 3: So we all died. 00:27:44 Speaker 2: Yes, they had gotten out quite a few of the hostages. I guess they weren't really hostages because they all wanted to stay. Oh yeah, but yeah, it's a very strange, strange story. 00:27:58 Speaker 3: That sounds horrible. Why did you read this? 00:28:01 Speaker 2: Because I could remember just vaguely as a kid, like it being in the news and whatever, but I was never totally clear on what this situation was. 00:28:10 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:28:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I started reading it and I thought, wow, this is you know, this is You don't want to join one of these groups? 00:28:18 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, Ultimately, I mean that's a good takeaway. I'm glad you had that takeaway, not the opposite takeaway. Wow, that sounds so intense. Do you like reading kind of spooky things. 00:28:28 Speaker 2: I do love to read a spooky thing, But it's hard to spook me at. 00:28:31 Speaker 3: This point because you've been so spooked. 00:28:33 Speaker 2: I've been spooked to my very core. So this wasn't as spooky as just bizarre. 00:28:39 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:28:41 Speaker 2: I do. I need more scary book recommendations. But I think it's hard to be scared by a book. Oh it's fiction. 00:28:47 Speaker 3: Interesting. I think I get scared really easily. 00:28:50 Speaker 2: What's the scariest thing that's ever you've ever experienced? 00:28:53 Speaker 3: Well, oh, that's such a good question, what is the scariest thing I've ever experienced? I had a nightmare last night. 00:29:00 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so. 00:29:05 Speaker 3: This hot Okay. Last night, I woke up very briefly, I don't know why, and I in my dream somebody had been knocking on the door, and then so when I woke up, I thought they have entered the room. Freaked out and then I thought if I keep freaking out, I'm gonna wake myself up too much. So then I had to calmly go back to sleep, and then I fell back asleep. 00:29:24 Speaker 2: So the nightmare was just knocking on the door. It was that would be the scariest possible nightmare. No, it was. 00:29:33 Speaker 3: It was the knock on the door, wake up, and then thinking someone was in the room. 00:29:36 Speaker 2: So this was like an augmented reality experience. 00:29:39 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it was like a VR experience for my brain. And I thought someone was in the room, and then I'd be like, there's nobody in the room. And then in that moment, I was like, I want to just check my phone and turn on all the lights. And then I thought, either if somebody is in the room, in which case too late, whatever you and then if I check my phone, and then there's nobody in the room, but I'm gonna wake my so I thought, might as well just go back to that. 00:30:03 Speaker 2: I think that's like kind of a common thing where you're just like, well, I guess it's just now I'll be killed, yeah, or I'll get some sleep yeah, or either way it'll work out. 00:30:11 Speaker 3: Either way, I won't be concious. 00:30:13 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a very spooky experience. 00:30:15 Speaker 3: It was really spooky. I think I don't like it when it's nighttime. 00:30:21 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a really frightening movie? 00:30:24 Speaker 3: This is something I need to work on. I'm trying to think. I watched I think the scariest movies I've seen are probably Parasite and Get Out. 00:30:31 Speaker 2: Okay, but you know what I watched like. 00:30:34 Speaker 3: Last week, and I this didn't scare me. I wasn't scared. But I watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit? And I thought, if I were a child, this movie is so scary. 00:30:43 Speaker 2: The villain in it is very scary. 00:30:46 Speaker 3: Very scary. 00:30:47 Speaker 2: Judge Doom, Yeah, it's so creepy. 00:30:50 Speaker 3: It's so creepy. And then do you remember the Dip. 00:30:53 Speaker 2: Oh, of course the dip and the weasels. Yes, the weasels are scary. Creatures. 00:30:58 Speaker 3: It was really As I was watching, I thought, I'm so brave. I'm not scared at all, But I thought if I were a child, I would be. 00:31:05 Speaker 2: I remember being pretty scared of Judge Doom. 00:31:07 Speaker 3: How old were you, I. 00:31:09 Speaker 2: Don't know when did that movie come out. 00:31:11 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 00:31:12 Speaker 2: I mean I remember as a tiny kid that Wizard of Oz. 00:31:17 Speaker 3: That's scary for children. 00:31:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, horrifying for me. Those were the two big scary ones. Yeah. Maybe a Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. 00:31:24 Speaker 3: Oh, I've never seen it. That's the one where Dick van Dyke is in the sky. 00:31:28 Speaker 2: He's in the sky, he's in a car in the sky. And there's something called the child Snatcher, which is truly a scary like in an adult movie. Yeah, something called the child Snatcher would be horrify. 00:31:42 Speaker 3: That's so scary. That's like also very Dickensie. Oh yeah, they should have come up with another name. That's so wild. 00:31:49 Speaker 2: I hope they were aiming for something nice and they thought what could be nicer than child Snatcher. Yeah, they're just kind of unfolded as the scariest possible villain. Yeah, those were the three big scary one for me. Yeah, but do you know what I mean. We do need to talk about something else. Oh okay, we do need to talk about another scary thing. Karen Hm. I was really looking forward to having you here on the podcast. I thought, I adore Karen, We'll have a nice time catching up, et cetera, et cetera. A few days ago, I get a text from you, what's your shirt size? I thought, what could this possibly mean? But you know, I responded and moved on with my life. And then we came here to recording day. I walk into the backyard. You're chatting with Analise. Everything seems fine, and then I look at the table and there's a gift bag sitting there. I kind of controlled myself from shrieking. And now I you know, I this whole time, I've just kind of been simmering, and now I'm going to confront you. Is this a gift for me? 00:32:54 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:32:55 Speaker 2: The podcast is called I said, no gifts. 00:32:57 Speaker 3: Oh wait, really. 00:33:01 Speaker 2: You thought this was WTF? 00:33:03 Speaker 3: I thought this was called I said gifts. I was like, that's so rude. You're hosting a podcast over the guest is to bring you a gift, not me. That's not Meah, okay, I'm not I said, no gifts, yes, pure class. 00:33:20 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, well it's a gift for me. Should I open it here on the podcast? 00:33:26 Speaker 3: Yes please? Okay, I will say there's a little card. 00:33:31 Speaker 2: Also opened the card first. 00:33:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's in the side. And then you should go small one and then big one. 00:33:37 Speaker 2: Oh wow, this is a whole experience. Okay, reaching into this little brown bag, pulling out the envelope. 00:33:43 Speaker 3: It's a thick it's a thick boy. 00:33:46 Speaker 2: It's a thick boy. Okay, we're opening. This is thanks for being the friend that I cannot sit next to a serious events. Oh that's very nice. This is why we can't go to church together or funerals or funerals. Okay, okay, now, shure I read this part first. 00:34:01 Speaker 3: Or the h maybe maybe the left side. 00:34:04 Speaker 2: The left side. So it is because of your bo big oss Latin for ass. Now, this is dear Bridget. So you keep trying to undermine me, and you keep trying to cut my self confidence down. Thank you so much for having me in your in your podcast. It has been my lifelong dream to star. And I said, no gifts. I will cherish this memory forever. True. Oh, I said gifts. Oh, now see, now you're commenting on my reading power. I will cherish this memory forever. You mean so much to me. You are like the brother I already have quiet Asian. I love you, Karen parentheses cheek. Yeah that's very nice. 00:34:49 Speaker 3: So welcome. 00:34:50 Speaker 2: This feels so true to everything that we've experienced so far. Yeah, yeah, okay, so this might have something to do with my big oss. Oh no, wait, why does it say, oh, we can't sit next to each other at serious events because of my big oss. Yeah we can't. So now you've commented on my ass. You've called me bridget. Yeah, you've criticized my reading. 00:35:18 Speaker 3: The bridget is I texted you and my phone auto corrected your name to bridge. So unfair. 00:35:23 Speaker 2: We've got to get my name out there. 00:35:25 Speaker 3: But then I thought my phone is pretty smart. Maybe know something I don't. Interesting, Yeah, it corrects my grain. 00:35:32 Speaker 2: Trusting the robots. Everyone go google Bridger, just the word bridger. We've got to get it into the algorithm or bridge in French. I do believe it's literally like someone who lives under a bridge. Yeah, interesting namesake for me. Okay, we're reaching in smaller first, Yeah, okay, pulling out Oh I like this tissue sparkly, thank you pulling, pulling apart. I don't want to destroy. 00:36:02 Speaker 3: You can destroy. 00:36:03 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh this is very cute. It's is it a pin? I think so it's a travel hedgehog wherever you may wander, wherever you may roam. Made this hedgehog journey with you and safely bring you home. 00:36:19 Speaker 3: It's so cute. 00:36:20 Speaker 2: It's very cute. It's a little like hedgehog pin or a thing you can keep in your pocket. 00:36:26 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was kind of. 00:36:26 Speaker 3: Confused because everything at the store it was really small and difficult to carry around, but didn't have any ways to attach to your body. 00:36:34 Speaker 2: You have to swallow it. 00:36:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pill. 00:36:38 Speaker 2: This is a suicide pill in case I'm caught by enemy force. As I pulled this out. This is very very cute. 00:36:46 Speaker 3: It's really adorable. 00:36:47 Speaker 2: Why did you bring me the travel hedgehog? 00:36:49 Speaker 3: Like? Yeah, I was like Bridger, let's hang out, and you said I'm in New York. So I thought this man he travels, he gets reads to get home safe. 00:37:02 Speaker 2: This is very very cute. Do are you a hedgehog person? 00:37:06 Speaker 3: No? 00:37:06 Speaker 2: No, no, I was a big I always wanted a hedgehog. Wait, really because of Sonic the Hedgehog. 00:37:11 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, totally, that makes sense. 00:37:14 Speaker 2: But was not allowed to have a hedgehog, which Sonic isn't real. It doesn't seem like a good pet. Yeah, tough for children, tough for I think everyone. 00:37:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's fair. 00:37:22 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like something you can really enjoy as a can you pet the hedgehog? 00:37:28 Speaker 3: Do they have nice temperaments? 00:37:30 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:37:30 Speaker 2: Interesting? Or are they mean? 00:37:32 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:37:33 Speaker 2: I assume that they're kind of like apossum in a way, where like they just roll up and just don't attack. They just yeah, try to not be killed. 00:37:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that would be your fighting strategy if you and I were to battle. 00:37:47 Speaker 2: I just curl off on the ground and let you just kick me to dead. 00:37:51 Speaker 3: But I can't imagine you doing the attack. 00:37:54 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I don't feel like I would ever be the aggressor. 00:37:57 Speaker 3: No, but I will say for anybody listen, Bridger is sitting across me right now. He's wearing a little shirt. Besides our lover rolled up, he's got some big arms. I don't know if they know you've got big arms. 00:38:11 Speaker 2: Okay, now you're trying to build me up. 00:38:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I appreciate just to tear you down. 00:38:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that I could defend myself physically. 00:38:21 Speaker 3: Oh interesting. 00:38:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever been in a physical fight with someone? 00:38:25 Speaker 3: No, but I have been waiting. I really I think about it often. I think I could actually do better than you might expect, because I think nobody would expect. 00:38:36 Speaker 2: That's how I feel about myself. 00:38:37 Speaker 3: Really. 00:38:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, i'd be like I'm an uncage animal if provoked. 00:38:41 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, we should fight. Yeah, I think I really bet because we seem so like sweet and not scary to people small. Small. I feel like because of the element of surprise, we have the upper handle. 00:38:58 Speaker 2: And I pinch. That's my secret weapon. If I were to be attacked, I'm immediately going for pinching. No, attacker like, they've got you pinned against the ground, you're pinching them. 00:39:11 Speaker 3: No, that's actually so smart. 00:39:13 Speaker 2: That would paralyze an attacker. 00:39:15 Speaker 3: No, you're right. Pinching and biting, which is pinching with the mouth. Yeah, those are really good tactics. You never have to throw a punch. 00:39:24 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're pinching and biting. Yeah yeah, yeah, maybe it was scratching, depending on the last time you cut your nails. 00:39:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's really good. Maybe you should always have one nail that's a. 00:39:33 Speaker 2: Little bit oh yeah, like the coke nail. Are you familiar with the cokenail? Are you someone will have a long pinky to snort coke out of? 00:39:45 Speaker 3: Wait? Sorry, so you put the coke into the pinky. 00:39:47 Speaker 2: Into the pinky nail? I believe is that true only or maybe some. 00:39:51 Speaker 5: Sort of I mean, based on the lore that I've been exposed to, but not from personal experience. 00:39:57 Speaker 3: You were really asking regularly at least let. 00:40:02 Speaker 2: Me see your pinkies. Two huge nails covered in white powder. 00:40:08 Speaker 3: Which finger do you think you would have to grow long to signify this is a fight? 00:40:13 Speaker 2: I feel like that that's the index finger. 00:40:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. 00:40:17 Speaker 2: Or a thumb, yeah, gouge out an I with your thumbnails. 00:40:21 Speaker 3: I think it's got to be a thumb because I wonder if the four fingers. You just look like a teacher. 00:40:25 Speaker 2: Interesting, you're just someone who loves to point. 00:40:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting? Interesting? Interesting? 00:40:32 Speaker 2: How did we possibly get to this? 00:40:33 Speaker 3: I don't know. I love that you love hedgehogs. 00:40:36 Speaker 2: I really adored them. Did you have any pets as a kid? 00:40:39 Speaker 3: I had a couple of turtles. 00:40:40 Speaker 2: Oh, another thing I wanted and wasn't allowed to have. 00:40:43 Speaker 3: Why not? 00:40:43 Speaker 2: My mom thought I was gonna get salmonillo? Oh my god. 00:40:46 Speaker 3: Okay, I wasn't allowed to touch my turtles because they might have had them. 00:40:48 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm glad that at least that was in the air and my mom hadn't just made that up. 00:40:52 Speaker 3: No, your mom was really right. It was very confusing as to why my dad brought home these turtles. 00:40:57 Speaker 2: Could not love. 00:40:58 Speaker 3: No, I couldn't touch them, so we'd always use like disposable chopsticks to pick them up put them on. They were really small. They were like smaller than the palm of my handable listener, I've got small hands. 00:41:14 Speaker 2: These are Barbie size hands. 00:41:16 Speaker 3: They were. The turtles were so small, and then I really hated them because I was like, I don't I don't get anything from them, but I have to take care of it was gross. 00:41:26 Speaker 4: What were they named Woody and Buzz? They were named Ninja turtles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Woody and Buzz. That's very cute. 00:41:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like kids naming a pet is just the last animated movie they saw. 00:41:40 Speaker 3: I think that's when happened yeah. 00:41:43 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:41:43 Speaker 2: If you want your kid to name their pet after something, just find the movie with that character name and then show them that before adopting the pet. 00:41:52 Speaker 3: That's so smart. 00:41:53 Speaker 2: I should write a parenting book. You should write a parent best seller. Yeah, oh go houseless author. Okay, so you had two little turtles. 00:42:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I always wanted a dog, but we never got a dog. 00:42:07 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, did. 00:42:08 Speaker 3: You have any other pets. 00:42:09 Speaker 2: We had a lot of cats, outdoor cats. Oh, so they didn't lion tragically did not last that long, a lot of them until we finally had an indoor cat. 00:42:18 Speaker 3: Wait, I don't understand what that means. So like, because they were outside, they died. 00:42:22 Speaker 2: A lot of them died early. Oh you know, we lived kind of in a it was like a neighborhood out in an undeveloped area, basically like outside of the city. So there were a lot of fields and stuff, and the cats would just run around get hit by cars, various things that happened to animals when I mean not responsible pet ownership, obviously pointing fingers at my parents. 00:42:47 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, But. 00:42:48 Speaker 2: Then eventually we had a cat that lived indoorstcha and he lived a long time and then we had a dog and I had a rat oh in first grade named Splinter Ninja turtles cut escaped, lived in our garage, became rabid, and my brother shot it to death at the be begun. 00:43:08 Speaker 3: I'ty so horrible. 00:43:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a rough story. Oh my god, And now I have a I mean, rats are my number one fear. Yeah, because I was betrayed. 00:43:20 Speaker 3: And also because this rat probably told all their friends and how they all know about you. 00:43:23 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's gotten around in the commuter. 00:43:26 Speaker 3: That's so crazy. Well, you're evil. 00:43:30 Speaker 2: I'm evil. 00:43:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, and your brother shot it. 00:43:33 Speaker 2: I'm the victim. The rat escaped me, it left me, and then my brother shot it. What what do I have to do? Well, maybe I called the killing blow. I don't know. Yeah, we take the shot. Yeah, I was in first grade. I don't know. But now a rat, My god, that's the most horrifying thing I can think of. 00:43:53 Speaker 3: I can't believe your parents let you have a pet rat. 00:43:56 Speaker 2: It's so crazy to me. My mom could have given me a turtle and I would have been satis. She decided that I should have this horrible People love rats. Okay, I apologize to the people love rats. 00:44:07 Speaker 3: No that's a lie. That's not true. Nobody loved. 00:44:10 Speaker 2: People have very close relationships with threats. They're very smart. 00:44:13 Speaker 3: No dumb, dumb animal. 00:44:16 Speaker 2: I'm definitely not on board with rats, but I know people love them. No, No, I can't love them. Yeah, I find them unlovable. 00:44:24 Speaker 3: And that's good. That's no parenting Number two. 00:44:28 Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong. But a few months ago or last year, were you living in a house with mice? I feel like you had some weird thing was going on in the airbnb you were living in. 00:44:38 Speaker 3: I was living in a few weird airbnbs. I'm trying to remember if any one of them. I have such a terrible memory. I wasn't I want to say, four or five different airbnbs during my few months in La So I was like, this will be a good way to get to know the neighborhood and see if I want to move here. There was one where the heat never came on, and I was like, this is a deal breaker because I'm so cool, right, I don't know if we had one that had mice. We had one that had a large dog that sort of bowled me over every time I came home. 00:45:07 Speaker 2: That's a problem. 00:45:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, and another house that had two large dogs. 00:45:11 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they were rats. No, you're just misremembering. 00:45:15 Speaker 3: No, I don't think we had mice thuff. We did have one that I think was bugs. And then the owner kept being like, these aren't bugs. And I was like, but what is biting me at night time? 00:45:24 Speaker 2: That must be But what they just flat out denied. 00:45:28 Speaker 3: They kept being like, this isn't bugs, Like the. 00:45:31 Speaker 2: What is it? Something worse? 00:45:32 Speaker 3: That's what I kept saying. And they were like, and then if it's bed bugs, you brought it. And I was like, what, Like, I didn't. I'm just asking for bugs pray. And they're like, no, if it's bed bugs, you brought it. If it's not, it's not bugs. Yeah. People were awesome. 00:45:47 Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm going to dip back in. 00:45:49 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay. 00:45:50 Speaker 2: Is there anything else we need to say about the hedgehog? No? 00:45:52 Speaker 3: I love the headshog. 00:45:53 Speaker 2: It's very cute. I hope it's a button. I hope that it's a pin or something. 00:45:57 Speaker 3: I really think and I was kind of confused by everything there. I think it might just be a little hedgehog that you have to carry around in your pocket. 00:46:06 Speaker 2: Where did it come from? 00:46:08 Speaker 3: I came from a pop up store. I can't remember what it's called, Okay, but it had a lot of small, cute things like us. So I was very excited to be there. 00:46:17 Speaker 2: Okay, reaching back in. Okay, now this is I assume the thing I had a hint about. Oh yeah, yeah, we're opening. 00:46:26 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay. 00:46:29 Speaker 2: It is a shirt yea in my size small if anyone's looking shopping for me. Yeah, and it says, wow, this is incredible, This is incredible. It's a black T shirt. It says today's forecast and then has two playing cards, an ace and a ten of clubs chance of bridger. This makes absolutely no sense. It's a T shirt. I thought, because I saw the cards and I saw today's forecast, I thought it was going to say today's forecast one hundred percent chance of gambling, or of winning, or of something else you do in poker. 00:47:09 Speaker 3: To be clear, it's is one hundred percent chance of bridge And then I taped in. 00:47:13 Speaker 2: The Oh my god, wow, what an incredible job you've done. Just can't be washed. 00:47:18 Speaker 3: It can't be washed. We want your must on it forever. Wait your musk. 00:47:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is incredible. So it originally did just say bridge. Where did you get this? 00:47:31 Speaker 3: I got from Etsy dot com. There are some real bridgeheads online, there must be they're buying. There's so many bridge related shirts that I went through a f you and thought this one was the best one, and so I ordered it. 00:47:46 Speaker 2: Today's forecast one hundred percent chance of bridge is a very funny thing to wear. Who's wearing that? I just a friend was just telling me that they were going to start playing bridge in Pasadena. Oh, bridges in the air. 00:47:59 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. That isn't bridge. Bridge is what I imagine, like people in their eighties. 00:48:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, until a week ago, I thought exclusively was for people over seventy five. Yeah, yeah, yeah, great grandma played bridge. Okay, congrats, congrats to everyone involved. Yes, yes, but bridge otherwise I've never heard of outside of older circles. 00:48:21 Speaker 3: Me too, But it seems fun like, I mean, what is bridge? It's games with cards, games plural. 00:48:28 Speaker 2: No, it's one game, one game, it must be, right, or at least it's a single card game, I wonder, But I don't understand. It's like a go fish type thing. 00:48:38 Speaker 3: I think there's like strategy, strategy because I I my friend Ezra's grandma was in a weekly bridge club, and they would be kind of like an internal ranking they had in their head of who tends to win. So I think it isn't pure luck, because then it. 00:48:52 Speaker 2: Would be a casinos. 00:48:53 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, oh that's true. 00:48:54 Speaker 2: And I don't think you can play bridge in Vegas. 00:48:57 Speaker 3: I'm going to Vegas to play bridge with my boy. 00:49:04 Speaker 2: So you've never played bridge, neither of I? 00:49:06 Speaker 3: No, no, But I basically just went to www dot's dot com bridge merch. 00:49:14 Speaker 2: I just watched a video, very informational video about drop shipping. Are you familiar with drop shipping? 00:49:21 Speaker 1: No? 00:49:21 Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, which I guess is kind of ruining Etsy now, which is basically I said informational and I took no information away from this, but it's essentially like people will order products from China to be that will ship directly to the consumer here, but they'll put them on Etsy as though they're handmade. Oh no, and so you'll be like, oh, here's a handmade piece of jewelry. You buy it, and then and like the photo makes it look like it was custom made, but then you'll find that same product on a million other websites. Oh no, So drop shipping drop drop shipping. I wish I could remember this YouTuber who did the video. It was very interesting. Man, this may have been drop ship. No. 00:50:02 Speaker 3: I wanted them to have made it with their. 00:50:03 Speaker 2: Hands, a hand knitted T shirt. Have you ever had Bridge Mix? Are you familiar with Bridge Mix? 00:50:17 Speaker 1: No? 00:50:17 Speaker 3: Is it a snack? 00:50:18 Speaker 2: It's a candy that I think is supposed to go hand in hand with playing bridge. 00:50:22 Speaker 3: That's actually such a smart idea. There should totally be games that have like food components. 00:50:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, every game should have its own like companion, because. 00:50:29 Speaker 3: You know, have you ever played One Night Ultimate Werewolf. No, it's a really fun game. 00:50:36 Speaker 2: It's just different than just were Wolf. 00:50:38 Speaker 3: Oh, it might just be Werewolf, but I think they have a version called One Night Ultimate were Wolf. 00:50:45 Speaker 2: Is that something you have to purchase? I bought it it. So this is somebody who just took a free game and then made it something that costs money by naming it the most insane. 00:50:55 Speaker 3: Thing that could wear Wolf free. 00:50:58 Speaker 2: I think were Wolf is kind of like Mafia. It is right where you just don't need any Oh, my lord, you paid ten thousand dollars. 00:51:06 Speaker 3: For two facts of this game because I want one at all, and I wanted one for the. 00:51:11 Speaker 2: Road while you're touring for the tour bus. 00:51:17 Speaker 3: Okay. The reason I mention it though, is that they have when you download the app, they have that big song that plays when it's quote unquote nighttime. 00:51:26 Speaker 2: You're talking to me like, I've heard this song, that big song that plays. 00:51:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, but what is it? It's actually kind of spooky. 00:51:37 Speaker 2: Is it like organ music? No? 00:51:40 Speaker 3: And actually there are a bunch of virsins you can do, so you can do like regular classic, but you can also do like disco or you can do like funky. 00:51:47 Speaker 2: Is it not a cassette? 00:51:48 Speaker 3: No, it's on an app. 00:51:50 Speaker 2: It's on an app. 00:51:51 Speaker 3: Oh my god, wait should I look it up and play it? 00:51:55 Speaker 2: Sure? 00:51:57 Speaker 3: But that's what it is. And it's like were Wolf open. 00:52:03 Speaker 2: So it's uh interesting. So it just is kind of like the like the game Master or like the dungeon Master of the Werewolf game. 00:52:11 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly, it's a robot. It's a yeah, yeah, it's is what it is. But I like how there's it's like a card game and then you're talking to each other, but there's like music, like everything is like a built in experience. 00:52:25 Speaker 2: Okay, right, so it would be. 00:52:26 Speaker 3: Fun if there was also a werewolf food that you have. 00:52:28 Speaker 2: Oh right, raw meat, yeah. 00:52:31 Speaker 3: Raw meat, maybe some wood. 00:52:34 Speaker 2: I don't know what does a were wolf eat? Dog food? Yeah? I feel like werewolf goes for whatever is available. 00:52:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, like the Great Depression. 00:52:44 Speaker 2: Every werewolf is in a permanent Great Depression. 00:52:47 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:52:50 Speaker 2: So you play Ultimate hyper in one Night, No, no Hyper, very calm Ultimate one Night, Werewolf one Ultimate? Yes, there are you good at it? 00:53:01 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:53:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've never played were Wolf, I've played Mafia. Isn't the same game. 00:53:06 Speaker 3: It is the same game, but it's who are the people in Mafia. It's like, hmmm, your is it just everybody's normal and one person's Mafia? 00:53:14 Speaker 2: Something like? Or I think a couple of people are Mafia? 00:53:18 Speaker 3: Oh gotcha. So you wake up and you see the other mafia person. 00:53:21 Speaker 2: I don't know that there's any waking up. Okay, maybe you get you're new to town. I don't know. Oh, you pull up into New Jersey. 00:53:29 Speaker 3: I feel like I played Mafia takes place in I would assume. Yeah, actually that makes a lot of sense. That's why everyone's doing those thick accents. 00:53:38 Speaker 2: Everyone has to do an intolerable accent. 00:53:41 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, werewolf is like you you can be the werewolf. You can also be like a village person, a villager, and then there's also like the tanner, like there are other rules you can have. 00:53:54 Speaker 2: Oh, this is more involved, it seems. 00:53:57 Speaker 3: And you can also be the minion, which is the best role to what is. So that means you're just on this side of the werewolf, so you get to see who they are. They don't know who you are, but your goal is to try and make sure the werewolf isn't killed off the next round. 00:54:11 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, this is a lot to keep tracking. 00:54:13 Speaker 3: It's like you're the vice president of evil. It's really fun. 00:54:19 Speaker 2: Wow. I wonder whoever invented a werewolf or mafia is probably kicking themselves for not actually monetizing it from the get go, because everybody else seems. 00:54:28 Speaker 3: To have Yes, I agree, and I also, you know, I'm genuinely shocked they haven't turned this into a movie. And I emailed my reps like I would be curious to see if this is available, and then they were like, oh, yeah, we'll look into it. And then I develop being like I actually think this would be too scary. But Bridgert, since you're very brave. I think you should play the game and try and write the movie. 00:54:49 Speaker 2: I wonder how that works. Is is that like intellectual property or is it just does a werewolf belongs to someone? 00:54:57 Speaker 3: That's a good I mean, I'm assuming they've copyright on the game. It had just been out long enough and nobody had turned it into anything that I was like, I guess no one wants to make those movies, so maybe I'll try, right, But. 00:55:07 Speaker 2: I thought it was just literally a game somebody had kind of randomly thought up, but then other people had. 00:55:12 Speaker 3: No, No, this is like a franchise. 00:55:15 Speaker 2: It is. 00:55:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like a It's like a real proper game with cards and oh matter, I paid a lot of money to somebody. 00:55:22 Speaker 2: Well, but again, you're calling it one hundred percent were Wolf or. 00:55:25 Speaker 3: Whatever one Night ultimate a Wearolf. 00:55:28 Speaker 2: So that to me feels like somebody played the game at a slumber party then knew they needed to start a business, but could not just say were wolf, so they called it one Night were Wolf. 00:55:39 Speaker 3: Yes, it is. I think you're right. Sorry, I don't know why FI otherwise. 00:55:42 Speaker 2: I would get into the bottom of this on at least, do you have anything to say about the game were Wolf. 00:55:46 Speaker 5: It's how I exclusively spent my knee Eve last year. 00:55:50 Speaker 2: And did you play One Night Ultimate Werewolf? 00:55:52 Speaker 6: Yea one Night Ultimate were Wolf. It was so much fun. 00:55:55 Speaker 5: Enemies were made, alliances were built and torn apart. 00:55:59 Speaker 6: Feelings were probably her Oh so many feelings were hurt. So many It's kind of it feels like Traders, right. 00:56:05 Speaker 2: See, this is the exact this is what I'm talking about. Traders. They just stole this game Mafia or whatever and turned into a reality show, which I have no complaints, but I feel like no one really holds the ownership over the actual rules of the game. 00:56:17 Speaker 3: No, you're totally right. We could also just reinvent the game right now with a different evil figure, right, which which I've got Ultimate Witch. Yeah. Yeah, I'm so glad you know this game, because there was a moment where I was like, did I make this up? 00:56:37 Speaker 2: No? No, it's the most bootleg name I've ever heard. 00:56:42 Speaker 3: I never thought about it like that. 00:56:44 Speaker 2: I generated a nightmare. But now I want to play with all these different roles and everything. We should play Sometimes do you really get into it? 00:56:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you have to pretend like you're not getting into it. 00:56:56 Speaker 1: Oh. 00:56:56 Speaker 2: Interesting it's how cool of you, No, not. 00:56:58 Speaker 3: To be cool, but just to play the game, right, yeah right? 00:57:02 Speaker 2: Or you get so into it that that throws people off. Yeah yeah yeah it makes everyone uncomfortable. 00:57:07 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, either way, either way, it's very fun. 00:57:11 Speaker 2: No, I think I get pretty into it. 00:57:13 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:57:13 Speaker 2: I think I'm good at these games. 00:57:15 Speaker 3: I bet you are. 00:57:16 Speaker 2: I should put my put that to the test. 00:57:18 Speaker 3: I suppose do you think of yourself as a sneaky person. 00:57:21 Speaker 2: I think I can be a sneaky person. I think in these games, I'm very sneaky. I love that because do you watch The Traders? No, the Traders, these people are like making such a big deal out of like I can't believe I have to lie and all this stuff. It's like that is the game. 00:57:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you signed up to do. 00:57:36 Speaker 2: It's like playing basketball and me like I feel bad about throwing it into that hoop. It's like that is the game. So when I'm under those circumstances, I will do anything I can to win. 00:57:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. I bet the people who sign on to go on that show and then are like I'm afraid to lie, Like this is bad. I bet they lie all the time. 00:57:55 Speaker 2: Oh right in real life? Interesting? 00:57:57 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:57:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah interesting. Don't trust single person who's ever been on one of those shows. No, No, I probably wouldn't anyway. Yeah, I mean they're mostly reality stars. 00:58:07 Speaker 3: Yeah. If you could be on a reality show, which one would it be? 00:58:10 Speaker 2: People have been telling me I should be on The Traders? 00:58:13 Speaker 3: You should? 00:58:14 Speaker 2: Maybe I should, But the money's not enough. 00:58:16 Speaker 3: How much is the money? 00:58:17 Speaker 2: I mean it's a lot of money. It's it's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, but. 00:58:21 Speaker 3: So much money. 00:58:22 Speaker 2: Not as a game show. People need to realize that game shows have to give a million dollars away at this point. Oh, you're a survivor who wants to be a millionaire? The thing where you ate bugs? What Big Brother? The thing where you eat uh, fear factor. I mean that's just off the top of my head. I just named four shows that can give away a million dollars, right, This show is giving away two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which you may have to split you are with who the other winners? 00:58:51 Speaker 3: Oh no, and then tax and then taxes. Yeah. 00:58:55 Speaker 2: And these people are freaking out. They're acting like they're like they've completely soldiers old to the devil. Oh my god, because it's obviously just mental anguish or whatever. Yeah, and then they're walking away with not real game show money. Yeah, just be on Jeopardy for one night. 00:59:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, one night Ultimate Jeopardy. 00:59:13 Speaker 2: That sounds like a real like Jeopardy week. Yeah, they should look into that for Jeopardy. 00:59:18 Speaker 3: They should. I love Jeopardy. 00:59:19 Speaker 2: Oh, it's such a wonderful show. 00:59:21 Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you think you'd be good on Jeopardy? 00:59:22 Speaker 2: Absolutely not? 00:59:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean neither. Yeah about me, not you. I think you would be good. But you know what, I think you would be really good at hosting Jeopardy. 00:59:31 Speaker 2: Oh. I would love nothing more than to host you. Well, let's get the wheels rolling. Yeah, someone kill Ken Jennings. 00:59:37 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, okay, I'll do it. I'm waiting to fight. I was a Bridger and I don't think I ever told you this. The very first time I met you, I did think this man sounds like he is hosting a really calm game show. And it was such a good energy. Like I was like, this is such a good I feel so like conversationally held you know what I mean? 00:59:57 Speaker 2: Oh, that makes me very happy. 00:59:59 Speaker 3: That was very good. 00:59:59 Speaker 2: Well, Jeopardy reach out. I mean, I think they've gotten rid of blossom. At this point, she was hosting, but then became kind of a lunatic. You've got to have a good person hosting Jeopardy. 01:00:09 Speaker 3: Yeah you do. 01:00:10 Speaker 2: I mean the bar is impossibly high. 01:00:12 Speaker 3: I really think you could be the next Alex Trebeks. I'm not even doing a bit. 01:00:15 Speaker 2: Well, let's look into I tried to go to his estate stylee Oh the line was a mile long. Wow. Yeah, I guess I should have waited. It's not like there's going to be another one. 01:00:26 Speaker 3: No, you should have waited. 01:00:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if it was in that house sane. 01:00:29 Speaker 3: Probably lots of cash. 01:00:31 Speaker 2: Just piles of cash in the state sale. Get cash for rock bottom prices. Okay, well, I have this gorgeous T shirt and I'll be wearing it constantly. Oh good, but I won't be washing it ever. 01:00:47 Speaker 1: No. 01:00:48 Speaker 3: And you know what, if you do watch it, you can bring them back and I'll do a new. 01:00:50 Speaker 1: R for you. 01:00:52 Speaker 2: This is like a subscription service. Yeah yeah, yeah, what is this white? How did you do the R? Is it like a. 01:00:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a thick masking duct tape kind of a situation. It's what they used to mark because the floor is on set perfect, And I got that in a pair of scissors, and I thought, snip, snip. 01:01:09 Speaker 2: You know, meanwhile, the show is out of control, your episode's falling apart, and you're making a craft. 01:01:17 Speaker 6: It was good. 01:01:17 Speaker 3: I will say. What I was originally gonna do is embroider an R ey Oh my god, because I was thinking of doing that because I like embroidering a lot. And then I didn't bring any of it with me. 01:01:27 Speaker 2: Oh sure, and so well, yeah, now I'm going to trap you in my house with an embroidery kit. Perfect, perfect, lock off the doors. You can't come out until there's an R on this T shirt. 01:01:37 Speaker 3: And I'll do it. 01:01:37 Speaker 2: I'll do it. Well, these are beautiful. I think it's time to play a game. Okay, okay, we're playing Gift Master today. Wonderful. I needed a number between one and ten seven, okay, very nice. You just want one, I'm gonna do two. We never get a two, okay, Okay, I have to do some light calculator. So right now you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want with the microphone. I'll be right back. 01:02:04 Speaker 3: Hello, listeners, I don't have anything to promote, except I really do think Airbud three is a great movie, and I think it pairs really well with his Mary Kate an Ashley movie called Switching Goals where they play soccer. It's really fun. And I also think it would be nice if you played one night Ultimate Werewolf. And I also saw this game at Barnes and Noble the other day. That's like a board game version of the Disney movie Robin Hood. I've never played it, but I am looking for people to play it with me. So if you're at all interested, I guess hit. 01:02:39 Speaker 4: Up Bridger and then Bridger will filter and tell me it's a board game about the cartoon characters. 01:02:48 Speaker 2: Yes, that sounds fun. 01:02:49 Speaker 3: It sounds so fun. 01:02:50 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, are they going to ruin that by making a live action version? 01:02:54 Speaker 3: No? No, no, they already have so much live action Robin Hood. 01:02:57 Speaker 2: Oh but I'm not a live action Fox problem. 01:03:00 Speaker 3: That's oh no. 01:03:01 Speaker 2: Although it would be fun if they use real animals and just put the clothes in the animals. We're just kind of dragging the clothes around. 01:03:08 Speaker 3: That would be so funny and on like, because the set for that movie would be so expensive. 01:03:15 Speaker 2: So exciting. 01:03:16 Speaker 3: It spends so much money on this. 01:03:19 Speaker 2: And there would be so many animal bites. It would be a very dangerous place to be. 01:03:24 Speaker 3: Right now, I do want this movie. 01:03:26 Speaker 2: This is the first one I've wanted them to make. Do I have anything to recommend? I already recommended what I just love Ripley? 01:03:35 Speaker 3: Oh right, yes, I gotta watch Ripley on Elise. 01:03:38 Speaker 2: You have a new album, I do. Onalise has an album on Spotify. 01:03:43 Speaker 3: What kind of music? 01:03:44 Speaker 6: It's like, kind of new wave eighties, nineties nostalgic. 01:03:47 Speaker 5: It's for people who were aging and were born in the eighties, and that's fantastic. 01:03:51 Speaker 6: It's called Surrillian Dreams. 01:03:54 Speaker 2: It's but it's not under your name. 01:03:55 Speaker 6: No, my my Moniker is girlish figure. 01:03:58 Speaker 3: Oh, recommendation, recommend it girlish. 01:04:01 Speaker 2: There we need to do more recommendations. I always forget to recommend on this podcast. Yeah, and I like when I'm listening to a podcast and I may never even follow the recommendation. But yeah, that's something in your brain. 01:04:12 Speaker 3: H that's nice. What should I recommend? Then? 01:04:15 Speaker 2: Well, you recommended this U game. 01:04:17 Speaker 3: Oh well, I've never played it before, so it might be bad. 01:04:21 Speaker 2: What was less good movie you saw? 01:04:24 Speaker 3: Hoppenheimer. 01:04:25 Speaker 2: Oh, that was the last good movie you saw. 01:04:34 Speaker 3: I saw Who Framed Roger Rabbit? 01:04:36 Speaker 2: That's a Recommendati's well, what is Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Rat? 01:04:45 Speaker 1: It? 01:04:45 Speaker 2: It's a PG movie. 01:04:46 Speaker 3: Oh that's such a good question. I assume maybe PG thirteen. 01:04:50 Speaker 2: It does because we've got Jessica Rabbit boom. 01:04:54 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got the scary surprisingly PG. 01:04:56 Speaker 5: And it's interesting Karen that you mentioned it being terrifying because you will woke a memory in my head. 01:05:01 Speaker 6: Yeh of how I could not. 01:05:03 Speaker 5: Finish watching that film as a kid because I was terrified. So I've never seen it because that's stuck in my brain. So maybe I need to be first Gee Bridger, maybe that'll be my assignment. 01:05:14 Speaker 2: Revisit Who Framed for Adrey Rabbit. It's a very fun movie. 01:05:17 Speaker 3: It's very fun and also so much funnier than I. 01:05:20 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's it holds up really well. Yeah yeah, and it looks amazing. Okay, enough is enough. We have to play the game. This is gift Master. I'm gonna name three celebrities. Okay, I'm gonna name three gifts. You're gonna tell me which gift you would give which celebrity and why does that make perfect sense? 01:05:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Mary, Yes, but gifts but classy. 01:05:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, we class it up here. Okay, these are the celebrities. Number one Claire Danes. We all love Claire Danes. Number two this is a listener suggestion from someone named Odra a U d r a Odra odre. Uh. The celebrity is Jeff Dunham. Do you know who that is? 01:05:58 Speaker 3: Wait? I don't I know the name by it. 01:06:01 Speaker 2: Loser. Yes, he does like puppet work, but he's like kind of like in Vegas, and I think he's kind of I would assume he voted for Donald Trump. Okay, but I don't want to put that. I don't want to. Maybe Jeff's a great guy. That's the vision I have of Jeff Dunham in my head. And number three is wax A Hatchie also known as Katie Crutchfield. 01:06:25 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. 01:06:26 Speaker 2: The three gifts you're giving are number one, cash Kashmir scarf, number two the will to go On, and number three lunch. 01:06:35 Speaker 3: Oh Cashmere scarf, will to go on? Lunch Okay, Katie crutch lunch Okay, yeah, because the name fun level. 01:06:44 Speaker 2: It's crutch Field. 01:06:47 Speaker 3: Well, then Kashmere's car. I would say lunch to what was it not Jeff Dunham. 01:06:56 Speaker 2: Jeff Dunham. 01:06:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, he can have a little lunch. That's fine. I don't fund and maybe we'll give him lunch and then take away his right to vote. 01:07:07 Speaker 2: My buddy has the puppets voting too? 01:07:10 Speaker 3: No, that's illegal. 01:07:12 Speaker 2: I can see that. 01:07:13 Speaker 3: It's not okay. They should be. 01:07:16 Speaker 2: He's got thousands of puppets voting. 01:07:18 Speaker 3: For and then the will to go on. Claire Dans May she live forever. 01:07:26 Speaker 2: She's so good. 01:07:27 Speaker 3: She's so good. 01:07:28 Speaker 2: Did you see that show last year? What was that show with Jesse Eisenberg. 01:07:36 Speaker 3: I did not see this. 01:07:37 Speaker 5: Oh, it was based on the Bookisman is in Trouble. 01:07:40 Speaker 2: Gleishman Is in Trouble. I didn't watch it, but I loved the show is so I had no interest in it, and then I watched it. It's such a show for adults. 01:07:47 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, it's like, oh this is. 01:07:49 Speaker 2: For a like this is just adult Like you think while you're watching it. 01:07:54 Speaker 3: Wow, and you are a grown man. 01:07:56 Speaker 2: And I'm a grown man. Everybody knows that about Bridge, He's a grown man. No, it just feels like mature television, which is nice. That sounds great, and she's of course wonderful. 01:08:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, beautifully played, beautifully lunch. 01:08:11 Speaker 2: The will to go on a Kashmir scarf. Who could ask for more? Okay, now we're at the final segment of the podcast. I said no emails people write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com desperate for answers, they need help. Will you help me answer a question? 01:08:27 Speaker 3: Yeah? 01:08:27 Speaker 2: Okay, this says dear Bridger and parentheses hopefully apologetic guest. I don't think we ever got any apology, so this person's wish has not been fulfilled. But that's okay. I have a gift conundrum and desperately need your advice. My brother in law and his now wife moved into their home bold over six years ago, just twenty minutes away from my and my husband's house. However, I have seriously never been invited to their home. For the ten years we've been married, my husband and I have ho did every family gathering at our place without my brother in law once offering to host, and I've found it a little odd. My husband has been invited over a few times in past years, but neglected to bring them a housewarming present when he visited. Okay, so the husband has been invited. 01:09:17 Speaker 3: And then he went empty handed. 01:09:19 Speaker 2: He went empty handed both gift and partner wise. He was not holding his wife's hand on the way over. 01:09:24 Speaker 3: There, has I see I see? 01:09:26 Speaker 2: This year, we got an invitation to my brother in law's birthday luncheon at their house. Since I'm now visiting their home for the first time and it's my brother in law's birthday, am I obligated to bring both a birthday and a belated housewarming gift? Bit more background, brother in law is a minimalist, so the gift search is difficult. I uses the same items till they're worn and will duct tape them to keep them in use. My husband doesn't want us to bring anything. But I'm Italian, so she's kind of self stereotyping here. Okay, and was raised never to show up empty handed. 01:10:01 Speaker 3: Do you think this is her way of letting you know what action you're supposed. 01:10:04 Speaker 1: To be us? 01:10:05 Speaker 2: Okay, we're starting the email over Mama Mia. 01:10:10 Speaker 3: Sorry, I. 01:10:12 Speaker 2: Uh. Plus, I have not been made aware of an I said no gifts policy. I'm thinking of buying something benign like a plant and a candle, but I have no idea what their current decor is like. Please help. Confused and slightly bitter Jessica, Jessica, Jessica has not been invited over to this house for six years. There's an obvious no one likes Jessica. 01:10:33 Speaker 3: No, Jessica sucks. 01:10:36 Speaker 2: Obviously the husband's getting invited over separately. 01:10:39 Speaker 3: It does feel weird to have invited just the husband, knowing that they live together in our twenty minutes So that does feel like a pointed statement. 01:10:48 Speaker 2: Or the husband isn't telling Jessica something. 01:10:52 Speaker 3: Oh wait, what what what is he not? 01:10:54 Speaker 2: What I if? Oh this is interesting? What if he the twenty minutes away is his secret family and it's not the brother in law and the wife, and he's just been going over all. I got invited, but you're not invited? Right? 01:11:07 Speaker 3: But then he wouldn't he bring a gift to his mistress? Yeah, you don't think so. I think if I had a mistress, I would bring her gifts. 01:11:19 Speaker 2: I guess it depends on how considerate this affair is. Yeah, yeah, so, but apparently so the husband is having an affair twenty minutes away and now, but now what's happening is the brother in law has invited them to a house. Yes, yeah, but it's obviously not gonna be the twenty minute minute away one. 01:11:39 Speaker 3: It's gonna be different one. 01:11:40 Speaker 2: Some truths are going to start. This is a scary situation because now she's in the car with the husband who knows he's about to be trapped in a lie. 01:11:47 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:11:49 Speaker 2: This is where people, This is where people get murdered. 01:11:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my advice for her is getting murdered. Can I not say that? 01:12:01 Speaker 2: Yes, that's excellent advice. I think I'm going to take a different, slightly different approach for Chess. I think she does take a gift to the brother in laws, but knowing that she's now in danger, the gift is wrapped. It's a weapon. So should the husband decide I have to I'm desperate. I have to end my wife's life in order to continue my secret marriage. He goes to attack, She unwraps the gift, defends herself, shoots him, bases him, stabs him. There are so many ways you can kill a person, yes, especially a husband. 01:12:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:12:46 Speaker 2: And if that doesn't happen, she's now giving the brother in law a gun as a housewarf house. 01:12:53 Speaker 4: That's fewer people. 01:12:58 Speaker 2: Every minimalist needs one handgun. 01:13:02 Speaker 3: That sounds good. That's a great plan. I can't believe she hasn't been invited over in six years. 01:13:08 Speaker 2: I would be alarmed. 01:13:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be alarmed. 01:13:11 Speaker 1: But I. 01:13:13 Speaker 3: Wonder if it's a matter of just straight up telling them, like, Hey, I just want to let you know what's kind of weird you have any invited? 01:13:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Yeah, just or say oh, i'd like to come see the house. 01:13:25 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I think at this point, if she brings a housewarming gift, though, it's going to be very passive aggressive. Yeah, you gotta just do a birthday gift. 01:13:32 Speaker 2: Simply a birthday gift. Yeah, and when you walk into the house, you can say, oh, I can see why you didn't want me to come over. Yeah, that's a nice thing. That all clear things. 01:13:41 Speaker 3: What a dumb Yeah, that's what you can say. 01:13:43 Speaker 2: You've had six years and you weren't able to mop the floors. That kind of thing. 01:13:48 Speaker 3: That's good to destroy these. 01:13:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely destroy. I think we answered a question perfectly. 01:13:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we did a good drink. 01:13:56 Speaker 2: It gave her a bunch of different advice. 01:13:58 Speaker 3: She feels really good. About herself. 01:13:59 Speaker 2: Probably warned her. 01:14:00 Speaker 3: We did. 01:14:02 Speaker 2: We gave her some like ways to insult her brother in law. 01:14:05 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, or to arm him. Yeah yeah. Oh wait, maybe that's date. Maybe she should keep the weapon. Oh interesting, Maybe she should just give him the bullet. 01:14:16 Speaker 2: And then they can team up at some point. 01:14:17 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because then it's like, if you invite me over, I'll give you the rest of the gun. 01:14:22 Speaker 2: You know. Perfect Yeah, Jessica, don't right back in. We answered the question perfectly. I now own a new T shirt. Oh yay, that could get me into a new hobby. 01:14:36 Speaker 3: Wonderful. 01:14:36 Speaker 2: I have a hedgehog, which hopefully is a button or pin. If not, I will be swallowing it and sending you my medical bill. 01:14:45 Speaker 3: Wonderful. 01:14:46 Speaker 2: And I've had, of course, naturally, I've had the best time with you. Me too. I'm so glad you were able to be here, Karen. 01:14:52 Speaker 3: Thank you genuinely for having me. 01:14:54 Speaker 2: Oh of course, I have been dreaming. 01:14:56 Speaker 3: Of being on this podcast since I was fine. 01:15:04 Speaker 2: Wow, and you're seventy eight now, so it's been a long time, a long journey. We made you work for it. Listener, the podcast is over, of course, you know that podcast is over. What else could be happening right now. I'm not just going to sit here and talk. Do something else with your day. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nilson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:15:57 Speaker 1: Line? Why did you hear? Hmm? Thought? I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guess, your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me