WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Learn From The Cardinal Sin

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for a break? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Wednesday, November eighth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>episode number sixty six. Welcome to the latest edition of

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<v Speaker 2>The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage

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<v Speaker 2>Studios at the start, and today we get you ready

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<v Speaker 2>for Cowboys versus Giants.

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<v Speaker 4>We take every game.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously here, so we will dive in and Brian's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give us his thoughts on this giant offense I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>versus Cowboys defense. We'll get to the Cowboys offense tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I wanted to start today though, is just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looking at the NFC East. I was noticing the

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<v Speaker 2>schedules and I think I tweeted about it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>multiple people have tweeted about it. It's really looking at

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<v Speaker 2>kind of how this is shaping up, looking at what

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<v Speaker 2>happened last weekend versus the Eagles. Cowboys get the loss,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is an opportunity here for the Cowboys if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the next three to four weeks before

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<v Speaker 2>they run into the Eagles again at at and T Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Check this out, Cowboys over the next four weeks are

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<v Speaker 2>going to play the Giants at Carolina, home against Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>home against Seattle. We know Dallas has played really really

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<v Speaker 2>well at home. Three of the next four are at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Three of those teams have losing records. Seattle is the

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<v Speaker 2>only one with a winning record that Dallas will face

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<v Speaker 2>in the next four weeks at Juxtaposed that to what

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia will be looking at. They have a bye this week,

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<v Speaker 2>which they need because they had a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 2>that got banged up in that last game. Then they

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<v Speaker 2>go on the road to play Kansas City, who leads

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<v Speaker 2>their division, and then they play Buffalo in Philadelphia, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they also play San Francisco in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 4>So my question for you guys is.

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<v Speaker 2>As you're looking at that, what do you think is

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<v Speaker 2>a likelihood that Dallas handles its business and wins the

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<v Speaker 2>next four games?

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<v Speaker 5>What's the tip in first?

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<v Speaker 6>I think they can I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>Again, we've seen them compete, being able to compete against

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<v Speaker 7>teams like the ones you presented. It's now and I

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<v Speaker 7>don't want to use the verbiage that upset fans use

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<v Speaker 7>or the haters use because I'm not in there, but

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what else to use, So sorry my

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<v Speaker 7>lack of Dictionary words. But basically it's the whole quote unquote.

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<v Speaker 7>They can't beat good teams. They can only be like

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<v Speaker 7>the okay teams, but they can't beat teams like forty

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<v Speaker 7>nine Ers the Eagles. So the ones that are like in

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<v Speaker 7>that range, we're kind of similar to, like you know,

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<v Speaker 7>that can happen unless something crazy happens like Arizona. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 7>they learn their lesson and they don't take that for

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<v Speaker 7>granted and there is full on preparation during the week

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<v Speaker 7>where they show up and it translates into the game.

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<v Speaker 7>But I do think, like this is not really a

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<v Speaker 7>question can they or can they not beat them? I

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<v Speaker 7>do think they can beat those teams, But what will

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<v Speaker 7>happen when they face another good, good team? What happens

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<v Speaker 7>when even if they get into the playoffs, they start

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<v Speaker 7>out again having to face either the forty nine ers,

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<v Speaker 7>unless say even I believe the next Eagle games, I

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<v Speaker 7>think the Cowboy, damn it, I will take the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's at home and it changes things a little bit.

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<v Speaker 7>They do tend to play better, and that's another thing.

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<v Speaker 7>The positive side is now we do have some home

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<v Speaker 7>games kind of piling up and coming up, which hasn't

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<v Speaker 7>you know, we've had a lot of road games and

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<v Speaker 7>history shows under Mike McCarthy. The Cowboys do tend to

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<v Speaker 7>win and play a lot better when at home.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it is very possible, even likely, and I

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<v Speaker 8>say likely with the assumption that they've learned from Arizona,

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<v Speaker 8>that they've learned to not overlook teams that they've learned

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<v Speaker 8>to not you know, follow all the outside noise about

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<v Speaker 8>Daniel Jones being done with the torn acl and will

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<v Speaker 8>it be Tommy DeVito or will it be Matt Barkley

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<v Speaker 8>who is activated or put up to the active roster today.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't worry about any of that.

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<v Speaker 8>Go play the Giants, and go play the Carolina Panthers,

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<v Speaker 8>and of course you better play the Commanders who always

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<v Speaker 8>play the Cowboys like it's their Super Bowl. Go play

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<v Speaker 8>those sub five hundred teams as if they're you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the Eagles as if they're the forty nine ers, as

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<v Speaker 8>long as they do that, And then you flip to

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<v Speaker 8>the other side and you say, absolutely being realistic, the

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<v Speaker 8>Eagles are going through a gauntlet right now. They come

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<v Speaker 8>out of there by week, like you said, Chiefs, that's

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<v Speaker 8>in Kansas City. And then they played the Buffalo Bills

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<v Speaker 8>in the forty nine ers. Who says they don't lose

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<v Speaker 8>all three of those games, So maybe lose two of

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<v Speaker 8>those three games. I say all of that to say

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<v Speaker 8>it's a situation where the rematch, the stage is set

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<v Speaker 8>for the rematch as long as the Cowboys handle their business,

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<v Speaker 8>and they could have very similar, if not entirely similar

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<v Speaker 8>records when they meet at at and T Stadium to

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<v Speaker 8>jump off, December is when we meet them, Yeah, December

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<v Speaker 8>two tenth. Yeah, so that the rematch is really what's

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<v Speaker 8>going to tell the story of the NFC East. For me,

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<v Speaker 8>I think Sundays told a lot, but that's not the

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<v Speaker 8>whole story. The real story gets told on December ten.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm focused on five games for Philadelphia and it even

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<v Speaker 9>goes past the game against Dallas. Three of the five

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<v Speaker 9>are on the road. They catch a break, they get

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<v Speaker 9>Buffalo at home, and they get San Francisco at home.

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<v Speaker 9>I think those are two difficult places to play, so

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<v Speaker 9>they'll carry those games at home. The games I think

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<v Speaker 9>they had the best chance to lose is that Kansas

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<v Speaker 9>City and then the Dallas game, and then the following

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<v Speaker 9>week at Seattle. I think that you need to carry

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<v Speaker 9>that thing a little further, you know, and maybe, like

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<v Speaker 9>I said, I think it'll be a tough stretch for

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<v Speaker 9>them to go those five games. They've been very fortunate

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<v Speaker 9>with the way that they've at times played very sloppy

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<v Speaker 9>football and tried to give games away and people haven't

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<v Speaker 9>been willing to take them. I think the next five

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<v Speaker 9>games that they're going to play against teams that will

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<v Speaker 9>take those games from them if they play sloppy. But

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<v Speaker 9>it's going to be if they go out and beat

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<v Speaker 9>Kansas City after the bye Buffalo. I mean, it really

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<v Speaker 9>is going to be about that. To me, that first game,

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<v Speaker 9>How do they play against Kansas City? You know, that

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<v Speaker 9>will tell me a lot about how they managed the buy.

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<v Speaker 9>It used to be with Andy Reid there. Andy always

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<v Speaker 9>won after a bye. They were one of the best

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<v Speaker 9>teams in the league when it came to records after

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<v Speaker 9>a bye when he was in Philadelphia. But they're games,

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<v Speaker 9>They're losable games to me, are the ones that they're

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<v Speaker 9>going to play on the road the next five.

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<v Speaker 2>Which game of the next four for Dallas do you

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<v Speaker 2>think is the one that troubled you most?

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<v Speaker 8>I'd probably say I want to say the Seahawks because

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<v Speaker 8>right now I do hold the Seahawks in high.

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<v Speaker 5>Regard as they saw yesterday. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 8>But advantage to the Cowboys because that game, unlike Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 8>having to play Seattle, they have to go to Seattle.

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<v Speaker 5>Seattle, the Seahawks have to come to all them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a cross country right, Yeah, it's a tough.

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<v Speaker 3>So especially after traveling to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 9>Now you know, hell, they might they might just sc

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<v Speaker 9>ahead and go halfway and say it to stay what

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<v Speaker 9>they might do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not an easy flight from Dallas, Like that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>all this trip Dallas has to take when they have

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<v Speaker 2>to go up to Seattle.

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<v Speaker 8>So I want to say Seahawks. I think the most

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<v Speaker 8>competitive one on paper is going to be Seahawks. But

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<v Speaker 8>advantage Cowboys because they get the Seahawks at home. Keeping

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<v Speaker 8>on the commanders of that four game pack, that four

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<v Speaker 8>pack keeping out on the Commanders. They gave the Eagles

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<v Speaker 8>a run for their money. On two separate occasions they

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<v Speaker 8>scored more than thirty thirty or more And on two

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<v Speaker 8>separate occasions, don't get caught slipping against the division rival

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<v Speaker 8>that once that whose season is back to going down

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<v Speaker 8>the Bowl and all they have is bragging rights and

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<v Speaker 8>that's what makes them play up to the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 5>So for me, I'm going to say Commander.

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<v Speaker 9>Commanders on a short week in having to deal with

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<v Speaker 9>their skill on all out side and yeah, and their

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<v Speaker 9>quarterback does have a His first start in the NFL

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<v Speaker 9>was the win. I know it was Week seventeen last year,

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<v Speaker 9>but you know, he could be very streaky in the

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<v Speaker 9>way he plays.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a division game.

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<v Speaker 9>I would think a little bit differently about it if

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<v Speaker 9>you'd already played the Commanders and you kind of had

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<v Speaker 9>an idea of where they're at. But you know, at

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<v Speaker 9>that point in time, you know, we might be hearing

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<v Speaker 9>a lot about the Commanders. Is you know, are they

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<v Speaker 9>the point where they've quit yet? I don't think they've quit,

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<v Speaker 9>but you know, maybe by the time you get to

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<v Speaker 9>Thanksgiving they might have. But there's a lot of skill

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<v Speaker 9>on that team, there's still the pass rushers on the

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<v Speaker 9>edges that you're going to have to deal with in

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<v Speaker 9>that game, and so that one worries me the absolute most.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>To me, what's interesting about the Commanders is that whether

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<v Speaker 7>or not they're having a good season, let's say they're

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<v Speaker 7>having a bad season, they're always there's always a little something.

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<v Speaker 7>There's always a little something that they got in store

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<v Speaker 7>for the Cowboys in that game. So you can't it's

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<v Speaker 7>not like the Giants that now year after year we

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<v Speaker 7>kind of take it as like, Okay, that's Dallas has beaten.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they haven't defeated deck since twenty sixteen, so it's

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<v Speaker 8>been a while.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's one of as opposed to that.

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<v Speaker 7>Regardless what the Commander situation currently is, they always have

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<v Speaker 7>something to do for the Cowboys. But also Seattle. I

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<v Speaker 7>think Seattle, despite the travels and all that and the

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<v Speaker 7>game being at home for the Cowboys, they they're a

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<v Speaker 7>team that I always see be extremely competitive against the

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<v Speaker 7>Cowboys and just have that little extra aggressiveness. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 7>I think those two for sure, But I would be

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<v Speaker 7>leaning more tours Seattle mainly because of the current state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think for me, it's the commanders.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not the first time we've seen the Commanders

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<v Speaker 2>have to come in here on Thanksgiving Day and get

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<v Speaker 2>a win, and that happens, and so I just.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe y.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I remember the year was at r

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<v Speaker 2>G three. I think came here one year Thanksgiving and

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<v Speaker 2>and uh and put a put a whooping on the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, so it's it.

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<v Speaker 3>It happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it happens for sure. And that's that's the one

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<v Speaker 2>that's scared. When the when the schedule first came out,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't care what the records are,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving is gonna be a hard game.

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<v Speaker 4>Be a hard game. So we'll see how that that

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<v Speaker 4>plays out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think it's interesting here that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as much as you hate to see the loss as

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<v Speaker 2>a Cowboys fan, if you're pulling for the Cowboys, you

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<v Speaker 2>hate to see a loss against the Eagles, but you

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<v Speaker 2>look at this next these next four weeks, it can

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<v Speaker 2>really change a lot. And and Brian, you even mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>going beyond that. If you go beyond that, and you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta also look at the Dallas schedule, and Dallas schedule

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<v Speaker 2>gets really tough. After that, that's when you start getting

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<v Speaker 2>into your Buffalo's and your Miami's and your Detroit like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some tough, tough games coming up after after that.

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<v Speaker 9>For Dallas, the way that Philadelphia finished is twice against

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<v Speaker 9>the Giants and once against Arizona.

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<v Speaker 4>So they'll be cruising by then.

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<v Speaker 2>They might be sitting people by then exactly, so it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be it'll be interesting. But I guess, I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>point of this whole conversation is that it is not done.

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<v Speaker 2>The NFC East is not done. They have a two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half game lead. But but Dallas has an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity here to make them, hey, if they can do

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<v Speaker 2>their part when the games are supposed to win and

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<v Speaker 2>put themselves in position by the time they face the

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles in week was that fourteen thirteen?

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<v Speaker 5>Week thirteen?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, it works out favorably for the Cowboys as

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<v Speaker 8>far as most of their games to this point have

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<v Speaker 8>been on the road, and then you're going you drop

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<v Speaker 8>a close when the Philadelphia they're about to go on

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<v Speaker 8>a three game gauntlet. You're about to go on I

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<v Speaker 8>don't want to say easy, but one that's not as challenging,

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<v Speaker 8>and you're at home where you've been dominant. So again,

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<v Speaker 8>by the time this rematch ques up, they should they

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<v Speaker 8>could very likely have a similar schedule, similar records.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, looking at it, I'm just like, this is be

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<v Speaker 7>a rough ride because still I don't know how long

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<v Speaker 7>can this O line stay healthy? And we still have

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<v Speaker 7>it's not an even number, but we still have a

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<v Speaker 7>whole half of the season, and and look what the

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<v Speaker 7>first half of the season has been with the struggles

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<v Speaker 7>of the O line, and mainly I think it all

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<v Speaker 7>comes just straight from being not being healthy.

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<v Speaker 8>I just want the peanut butter and jelly. I was

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<v Speaker 8>thinking about it on the drive in. That's what I

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<v Speaker 8>want from the Cowboys offensive line. I want the peanut,

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<v Speaker 8>butter and the jelly. Earlier this season, I'm gonna tell you,

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<v Speaker 8>earlier this season, with the injuries to the left side

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<v Speaker 8>of the line, you had the right side of the

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<v Speaker 8>line holding it down with Zach Martin, Terrence Steele, when

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<v Speaker 8>Steel was one of the bright spots. Now it's kind

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<v Speaker 8>of flipped. So you see a game like Philadelphia, Tyrant

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<v Speaker 8>comes back, he has one of the best games you've

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<v Speaker 8>seen him have in recent memory. Tyler Smith allowed only

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<v Speaker 8>one pressure in seventeen one on one snaps against Jalen Carter,

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<v Speaker 8>so he was the Jaylen Carter start before most of

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<v Speaker 8>that game, but then it was the right side with

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<v Speaker 8>Terren Steele struggling. So why is it always the peanut

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<v Speaker 8>butter but not the jelly. So once the peanut butter

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<v Speaker 8>and the jelly comes together, that sound which is gonna

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<v Speaker 8>taste pretty good for the go Lies.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just say I do to worry about them

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<v Speaker 3>really coming together though.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I really do think.

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<v Speaker 9>I think we're past the small sample size bit now,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, and I know we're halfway finished. I've talked

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<v Speaker 9>a couple of different times yes year on some platforms

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<v Speaker 9>and stuff. My commitment to you know, running the football,

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<v Speaker 9>to me, I don't think that's something that they're going

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<v Speaker 9>to fix. Now, maybe they'll fix it because of the opponent,

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<v Speaker 9>but you have to prove to me that you could

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<v Speaker 9>be able to run the football, and they and they've

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<v Speaker 9>yet to do that really against anybody with any real success.

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<v Speaker 9>That's the thing I think going forward that bothers me

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<v Speaker 9>the most about what the schedule lays out and how

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<v Speaker 9>it lays out, because I feel like that they're going

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<v Speaker 9>to have to work on the protection side of things.

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<v Speaker 9>It's going to be about putting it on Dak's back

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<v Speaker 9>again and then trying to kind of win this thing

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<v Speaker 9>that way through the air.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where their best players are.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get into this a little deeper tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>when we talk about the Cowboys offense. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting point that we have not really talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've heard many people talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but one of the guys on Twitter that follows me

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<v Speaker 2>and actually tweets some really good stuff, Josh O'Bryant, asked

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<v Speaker 2>the question, why is nobody talking about the change in

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<v Speaker 2>the coaching of the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's something where I think we got.

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<v Speaker 3>Did we did that? Though we really did. I wasn't here, no, No.

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<v Speaker 2>In training camp we talked ye, I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>season has gone, things.

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<v Speaker 9>That could hurt the offense. Was the fact that the

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<v Speaker 9>turnover of a coordinator, a play caller, a running backs coach,

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<v Speaker 9>a line coach. That was the one thing that was

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<v Speaker 9>my and I'm not saying me, I'm saying as a group,

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<v Speaker 9>we brought up the fact in June, or I know

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<v Speaker 9>one of the June conversations we have is play caller

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<v Speaker 9>gets changed out because they don't and everything doesn't coordinate,

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<v Speaker 9>everything doesn't mesh with you know, there was too much turnover.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was and I think that was a question

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<v Speaker 2>of will this be a problem? Now I think the

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<v Speaker 2>question it has to be we are in it. It

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<v Speaker 2>is a problem, and is the problem related to the

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<v Speaker 2>fat app You've got new coaching in those areas where

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<v Speaker 2>you're having some of the challenges. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation we're gonna have tomorrow when we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys offense a little bit deeper, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>Giants offense. I want to start with the quarterback. They

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<v Speaker 2>have lost Daniel Jones now for the season due to

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<v Speaker 2>a torn acl They have Tommy DeVito who came in

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<v Speaker 2>in relief of him. They also, as of this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>signed Matt Barkley as a backup quarterback, So those are

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<v Speaker 2>new quarterbacks on their roster. I guess first, I'll start

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<v Speaker 2>with Tommy DeVito. Brian, give me a scouting report. If

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<v Speaker 2>you were trying to tell someone, here's what he does. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what he doesn't do. Well, talk to me about

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy DeVito.

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<v Speaker 9>He's an older guy. He's twenty five years old as

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<v Speaker 9>a rookie, and you know he because the COVID situations

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<v Speaker 9>and stuff. These quarterbacks. Twenty nine five, Yeah, twenty five

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<v Speaker 9>years old. He's not physically a very big guy. He's

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<v Speaker 9>like six ' one right around there. He's finished a

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<v Speaker 9>couple of games for the Giants to season, the Jets

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<v Speaker 9>game and then the Raiders game due to those injuries

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<v Speaker 9>that we've been talking about. His redeeming traits, I feel

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<v Speaker 9>like his arm talent is not poor, and he's athletic

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<v Speaker 9>enough to navigate the pocket. He's one of those guys

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<v Speaker 9>when he makes a decision, it's like it's certainly I'm

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<v Speaker 9>gonna go there with the ball, or he's going to

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<v Speaker 9>say I don't like this and he takes off running.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's those times.

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<v Speaker 9>I think with the Cowboys, you have to be ready

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<v Speaker 9>if the quarterback of if he's not sure, he's going

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<v Speaker 9>to run immediately. He's not going to wait around, try

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<v Speaker 9>and move around and buy an extra second or two.

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<v Speaker 9>When he decides to go, he's going to go. So

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<v Speaker 9>you're gonna deal with a running quarterback, a scrambling quarterback.

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<v Speaker 9>This week, the offensive line doesn't give him much of

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<v Speaker 9>a time to read. It's that the week is part

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<v Speaker 9>of their offense, for sure, But the opportunities that he

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<v Speaker 9>can generate with his feet are think are something that

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<v Speaker 9>the Cowboys need to be concerned about.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you look at it, if there is a

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<v Speaker 2>thing that we come in here Monday morning and we're like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys defense had a problem with this quarterback, what

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<v Speaker 2>is that thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it the running?

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's the running the arm talent. As I

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<v Speaker 9>mentioned the receivers, they just do not have the ability

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<v Speaker 9>up front to hold anybody out for any length of time,

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<v Speaker 9>to let anybody go through their They've got talented wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 9>some of the best skill guys that they've had there

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<v Speaker 9>the last couple of years. But the pocket breaks down

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<v Speaker 9>on them so fast. It doesn't matter what quarterback they

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<v Speaker 9>have watched them all play. It just pocket collapses on him.

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<v Speaker 9>And now the quarterback is forced to have to make

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<v Speaker 9>a scramble throw or to run. In Devido's case, he's

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<v Speaker 9>more athlete. And you know Daniel Jones would run. This

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<v Speaker 9>guy runs because he's not sure. He doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 9>take a chance. He's rather he's going to He'll get

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<v Speaker 9>six yards slide, you'll get five yard slide, He'll get

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<v Speaker 9>eight yards slide. That's the kind of a quarterback you're

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<v Speaker 9>dealing with. So Cowboys have got to be careful of

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<v Speaker 9>that in this be careful not to let him rush.

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<v Speaker 9>Lane's integrity, gap responsibilities, all those things, especially when they

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<v Speaker 9>rush this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you spy a guy like that, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>when you start looking at the rest of their team,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that anybody scares you other than maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Saquon Barkley. So would you devote a guy maybe to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to suspend I.

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<v Speaker 9>Would be very mindful of it. I would you know,

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<v Speaker 9>whether that's Marquise Bell or somebody like that, Clark, somebody

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<v Speaker 9>to stay in that area. A lot of times the

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<v Speaker 9>Cowboys will play man coverage or they'll play with me

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<v Speaker 9>called mayn free where the free safety is the guy

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<v Speaker 9>at depth is the one that's the free player. In

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<v Speaker 9>this case, maybe the linebackers, if you know, just kind

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<v Speaker 9>of mirror him when he's the protecting. The rush could

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<v Speaker 9>get to him before even has a chance to break pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>But if he does, you just need a.

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<v Speaker 9>Guy right there to make sure that he doesn't get

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<v Speaker 9>too far down the field.

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<v Speaker 7>The way you're describing him sounds kind of like a

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<v Speaker 7>quarterback though. Yeah, you can manage and handle, but can

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<v Speaker 7>also surprise you on.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the surprising aspect of it is I think he's

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<v Speaker 9>not just this a quarterback with with that lacks armstrength,

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.840
<v Speaker 9>arm talent. I mean, the one interception he threw in

0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.360
<v Speaker 9>the Raiders game was middle of the pocket, just launches

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:52.960
<v Speaker 9>it down the middle of the Raider's safety has made

0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 9>a really good play down the middle of the field.

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Speaker 9>They just couldn't get the ball far enough inside, but

0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.360
<v Speaker 9>he threw it. You know, those are the great disc

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.000
<v Speaker 9>The ball comes off his hand pretty well. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>how you're able to cover on the outside. I think

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 9>will be important in this game. But this the running,

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<v Speaker 9>Everything in my mind keeps coming back to his ability

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 9>to scramble, especially if he gets third down and it's

0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 9>third and say you've got him in third and eight,

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 9>third and nine, and then he takes off running and

0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:19.400
<v Speaker 9>it's a ten yard game, and that's how they keep

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:20.240
<v Speaker 9>the sticks moving.

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<v Speaker 8>And to support Brian's point, as I sit here and

0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:26.440
<v Speaker 8>look at DeVito's collegiate numbers, and obviously he split time

0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:30.440
<v Speaker 8>between Syracuse and Illinois. Sophomore for Syracuse, he took off

0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 8>and ran one hundred and twelve times. Now he's not

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 8>the best at getting yards per tote because it was

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.120
<v Speaker 8>only one point one yard for carry.

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 5>So I mean that's the sacks included that exactly. So

0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:40.880
<v Speaker 5>he would take off and run.

0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.359
<v Speaker 8>And then his final season, which was with Illinois, he

0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 8>took off and ran seventy three times. So he's to

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:49.119
<v Speaker 8>Bryan's point, he's not afraid to just you know, panic

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:50.120
<v Speaker 8>and run.

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<v Speaker 9>Well if he doesn't see what he thinks, I mean,

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:54.920
<v Speaker 9>and that's a lot of times with these young quarterbacks,

0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 9>if they're not sure, they're better off trying to run

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.639
<v Speaker 9>and get positive yards and then fight for the next play.

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.479
<v Speaker 2>So you talked about the offensive line and the problems

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:04.120
<v Speaker 2>they're having there.

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.120
<v Speaker 4>Where are the most vulnerable on the offensive line?

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<v Speaker 3>Take your pick the left tackle. Andrew Thomas's I think

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:13.200
<v Speaker 3>is a good player.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, but the problem Andrew Thomas is it's kind

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 9>of falling into that. People have kind of taken a

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 9>little bit of advantage to him because they get him

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<v Speaker 9>off balance. You know, the rushers are able to that's

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 9>the thing. He's really he's a big, massive guy. Run

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:28.680
<v Speaker 9>down the middle of him. He's going to be good

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 9>to you. He can move a little bit, you know,

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 9>his lateral slide. Things like that I think are pretty good.

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:35.880
<v Speaker 9>But there's some teams that have gotten him off balance

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 9>and then when he becomes that all balanced player that

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 9>people have been able to get around him. But you know,

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 9>capturing the edge on him is a little bit tougher

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 9>than on the other side. Evan Neil and I was

0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:48.919
<v Speaker 9>talking to a guy at the Giants this morning, and

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.680
<v Speaker 9>you know, they're a mess, and he said, listen, Evan Neil.

0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:55.640
<v Speaker 9>He hyper extended his ankle this past game. He's miss

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 9>games already. It looks like that Tyree Phillips is going

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 9>to start. Phillips's made some starts for them already. When

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 9>Evan Neil missed two games. The Cowboys really took advantage

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 9>of Evan Neil in that first game that they played.

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 4>And that's their best one.

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Thomas is Thomas the best one.

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 9>Neil, I think is Neil is another massive guy, but

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 9>he's slow footed, and that's where I think that, uh,

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 9>you know, the problems have been. But they're confident that

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 9>that Tyree Phillips can can come in. He's played a

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<v Speaker 9>couple of times. They're saying the way that Neil's been playing,

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 9>it's not a huge drop off, So that says a

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:33.639
<v Speaker 9>lot right there. So but you know Neil is watching

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 9>him play, rushers have consistently found a way to break

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 9>him down. Now when you look at Phillips play, he

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 9>has trouble with those kind of quick, fast, twitchy guys,

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 9>guys that kind of you know, have a little bit

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 9>of movement to their game. So but he's he hasn't

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 9>been as much of a liability as when you watch

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 9>Evan Neil play.

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<v Speaker 8>Beyond one, I'm good And I was just going to

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 8>say the bum line is I mean, when you look

0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 8>at the matchups offensive line versus defensive line for the Boys,

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 8>that's that should be lunch for this Cowboys defensive line

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.120
<v Speaker 8>across the board in all fiuve spots. It's the it's

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 8>a worst offensive line in New York that they're about

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 8>to face here in Arlington than the one that they

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 8>racked up thirty six quarterback pressures in Week one against

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 8>seven secs. So if you did that against their starters

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 8>in week one and now you're dealing with you know,

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 8>Avenel with the hyper extension and stuff like that, Yeah,

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 8>like Brian said, take your pick, I mean.

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 9>Well, yeah, they've they've tried they've tried to they've tried

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 9>to address it, and they've used first round selections on tackles.

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 9>They used the second round selection on John Michael Smith's.

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 9>John Michael Smith's at the center is going to be

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 9>a good player. The problem is he's just you know,

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 9>it's a little bit like watching be Oddish play that

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 9>sometimes that he could be really really good, and then

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 9>other times guys get the edge on him and he

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 9>can't get over and he's not strong.

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Enough to hold up power wise man.

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 9>And then they have you know, Justin Pugh, who they

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 9>you know, got off the couch to come play, you know,

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 9>guard or tackle for him, and you know he's done.

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:08.959
<v Speaker 9>And then the you know, the other guard, Betterson is uh,

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 9>you know he's he's not you know, he's he's a

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 9>guy that traded for and he's just he's okay. So

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 9>they've really really this has been the reason why they've

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 9>really had problems scoring and and even moving the ball

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 9>and keeping their quarterbacks up right is and it has

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 9>to be super frustrating because if they've they've tried.

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 3>To invest in it, they just haven't invested the right guys.

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I think we all can agree. Saquon Barkley is the

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 2>one player on that offense that you worry the most

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 2>about just because.

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Of his raw ability.

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 2>But if you had to pinpoint one other person or

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 2>two other people that are skilled players, who are the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that we could be talking about on Monday morning

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:46.640
<v Speaker 2>that made a difference.

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<v Speaker 9>I would worry about one Dell Robertson. He didn't play

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 9>the first time that these two teams met, and he

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 9>is a smaller kind of a slot player, but he's

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 9>sure handed, he has quickness, he has a feel for

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.479
<v Speaker 9>how to get it open. He's good run after catch.

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 9>I haven't figured out yet why they haven't got the well,

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 9>I should say, I see why they haven't got the

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 9>ball to Jalen Hyatt, the rookie from Tennessee who is

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 9>a vertical player, a downfield player.

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh Man.

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 9>I thought he was going to be a real steal

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 9>and maybe one day he will be a steal for

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 9>the Giants, but they just haven't found a way to

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 9>get him the ball. And a lot of it has

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 9>to do because they haven't been able to protect well

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 9>enough to get the ball down the field. But Barkley, Robinson,

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 9>Hyatt those kind because they lost their tight end, their

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 9>tight ends. Their tight ends out. You know, Darren Waller

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 9>is out, you know, with another he's still with a

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 9>hamstring injury. There are a couple of their tight ends,

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 9>h Bellinger and then Cager. They catch the ball well,

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 9>they use them in a lot of different ways though.

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 9>They're kind of a full back move guy in line

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 9>tight end next to the tackle, so you'll see their

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 9>tight endsually when they run the ball at the point

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 9>of attack.

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 8>In some way, I think I'm gonna go with Robinson

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 8>just by default, because I mean, if you as you

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 8>dissect their skill position players outside of sa Quan, you're

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 8>really hard pressed to find someone that you should be

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 8>overtly concerned about, particularly when you look at who they're

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 8>going to have to match up against Darius Slayton versus

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 8>this Cowboys secondary.

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm just not I mean, fifty six.

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 8>Percent catch percentage, Yeah, he's outside of Darren Waller. He's

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 8>a leader as far as yards receiving. But is he

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 8>a game breaker. No, That's why they needed Jalen Hyatt

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 8>to pop off. But Jalen Hyatt has not been able

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 8>to pop off. So not really concerned about Jalen Hyatt. Plus,

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 8>I saw how Jalen Hyatt was deleted by this very

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 8>same Cowboys secondary. Obviously a lot of hype going into

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 8>Jalen Hyatt him coming out of Tennessee Week one Cowboys

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 8>at MetLife, and it was, oh, well, now the Giants

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 8>have somebody who can take the top off against the Cowboys.

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 5>Nope, ah, not.

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 3>So not so the pressure was so bad?

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and it made that but which hopefully will be

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 8>the same case they need to repeat it. So going

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 8>to that, which is a great segue. If you assume

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 8>that the pressure is going to be equal a little

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 8>greater this time around on the Giants quarterback, then the

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 8>release valve with Willer out is going to have to

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 8>be Wander Robbers is going to have to be your

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 8>slot receiver, working as much underneath as he can. So

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 8>but even then, it's not a ton of concern for me.

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 8>It starts and it stops with Saquon Barkley and that's

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 8>who they got.

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 9>They'll occasionally pop a run and they'll do it because

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 9>what will happen is Barkley is that but he he

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 9>is Uh. They're having a really hard time of getting

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 9>him any type of space where they've had some successes

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 9>the outside zone where everybody steps one way and they

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 9>just hand the ball and then they you know, they

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 9>get hat on a hat and then Barkley.

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Makes a cut.

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 9>He Barkley still all these years of playing against him, Uh,

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 9>he's still that same type of explosive guy catches the ball. Well,

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 9>there's been some times we've seen where against Cotte where

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 9>he's tipped balls up in the air and it's resulted

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:00.959
<v Speaker 9>in turn and stuff like that.

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 3>But overall, you.

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 9>Know, I feel like that they're gonna try and take

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 9>as much pressure off, uh, you know, off the veto

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 9>as they can that you know, you got to try

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 9>and run the ball a little bit and and then

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 9>they'll test this Dallas front to see and Dallas has

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 9>done a really good job of playing the run. Bell Clark,

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 9>those guys have done a good job of playing downhill.

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 9>They've held up in the middle pretty well. So you know,

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 9>trying to scourge him from doing that and making them

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 9>throw the football probably your best avenue here.

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 8>Now here's the best better news when it comes to Saquon,

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 8>because we can all agree that Saquan is going to

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 8>be the end all be off for that Giants offense.

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 5>Coming in Sequan is Oho to nine lifetime.

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 8>Against Yeah, and particularly in the dan Quinn era, He's

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 8>really struggled to get going in the dan Quinn era.

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 8>So it just does not boat well for the Giants,

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 8>which means you know, that bodes well for the Cowboys,

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 8>and I would take that all day one.

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think I think uh McCarthy and the coaches

0:30:55.640 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 7>should print out a bunch of pictures of screenshot of

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 7>the game against Arizona the worst place and put it

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 7>all over the building, all over the facility, because even

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 7>I sit in here listening to you guys and no

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 7>disrespect at all, but I'm finding a hard time caring

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 7>about I mean, obviously you care about the game, but

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 7>finding a hard time not dismissing what they currently have

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 7>right now and all the struggles that they're dealing with offensively.

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 7>So I can understand or see where someone on that

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 7>side of the building could maybe potentially drift, jump on

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 7>that drift and be on that same wagon of feeling

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 7>that way, especially after the type of game they were

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 7>able to have against them on that first week of

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 7>the season.

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 8>So it's here's a question, do you think that, And

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 8>this is going to be a weird but interesting question,

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 8>do you think that losing to the Eagles, and in

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 8>the fashion in which they did it will help them

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 8>defeat the Giants because it possibly helps them from overlooking

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<v Speaker 8>the Giants because they can't afford to do so.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you see what I mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I don't think that game really plays much into

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 2>this game. What I'm more concerned about is this is

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>the kind of game where, going to your point, Amber,

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.239
<v Speaker 2>I think the one thing I think Dallas's defense can

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>do at times is they can get enamored with going

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 2>to get the quarterback. And if they're looking at this

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 2>game and saying, you know, we can really get our

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 2>sack numbers up in this game, like let's go get

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 2>that guy because he can't beat our pass rush. And

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 2>they start doing that, and they start getting playing outside

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 2>of the scheme, and now you get situations where that

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 2>little crease and Barkley's off for a long run, or

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 2>someone overruns a play and here you go with an

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>end round with Wandelle Robinson and now he's off and running,

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and you got a situation where you're you missed the

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>quarterback because you got outside of your your lane and

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>he takes off running. And again I think that's exactly

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, and I shouldn't exactly, but at least

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<v Speaker 2>part of what I think happening with Arizona as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they look that game and they probably like

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 4>that quarterback.

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 2>We ought to be able beat that quarterback, so we

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>should be able to get to him and affect him.

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 2>And I think what happened in the in the process

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 2>is you got run on, like you over in you

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't play your gaps, and because you didn't play your gaps,

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 2>you created a lot of bad situations for yourself. And

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>that's where I look at this game. And if you're

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 2>having a hard time figuring out how Dallas can lose it,

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 2>that's how they can lose is if they don't play

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the right style of defense as they should where they've

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 2>been playing really for the last several weeks, which is

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 2>stop the run first. That is your top priority. If

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 2>that leads to an opportunity for you to rush the past, great,

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise you're stopping the run. If they have that mentality,

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I think they run away. If they don't, I think

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 2>this becomes.

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<v Speaker 5>A very interesting game.

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Sure playing hero ball, yep, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we're gonna take our final break we'll come back.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about the Dallas defense and talking about that

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<v Speaker 2>pressure rate. I was looking at some interesting numbers. Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>were there the pressure rate in the first four games

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<v Speaker 2>of the season was significantly higher than when it's been

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<v Speaker 2>in the last four weeks. I'm gonna ask you guys

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 2>some questions about that and what you think maybe contributing

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<v Speaker 2>to that. We'll talk about that when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Final segment of the Break live from that s WBC

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<v Speaker 2>Mortgane Studios at the Starlis Flip the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, Dallas Defense. I prefaced right before the break.

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at some of the numbers, and really

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<v Speaker 2>the eye test is what made me start thinking this,

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<v Speaker 2>because you look at the first four weeks of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>and it seemed like the Dallas defense was just very,

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<v Speaker 2>very Their pass rusher is just so aggressive and they

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<v Speaker 2>were really just destroying quarterbacks, and it didn't seem as

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<v Speaker 2>much like that was happening over the last four games.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went and looked it up and the

0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 2>numbers bear that. Out first four weeks of the season,

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:03.399
<v Speaker 2>they had a forty nine point three pressure rate.

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<v Speaker 4>They were ranked number one in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>In last four games week five through nine, they were

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 2>ranked fourth in the league with a forty one point

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:14.800
<v Speaker 2>eight percent pressure rate. So a difference of about roughly

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 2>about what's that like seven and a half percentage point

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 2>you say, if you say so, yeah, something like that, right,

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>something like.

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 4>That Texas LSU education that you know, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Sun goes to Texas too, So maybe you're paying

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<v Speaker 3>for it. We're paying for it.

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<v Speaker 2>So my question for you guys is what do you

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>think was the biggest factor in that? Do you think

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 2>it's more about the fact that you've played better opponents

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 2>in the second half, So in the first half you

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 2>have the Giants, the Jets, the Cardinals, and the Patriots.

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 2>In the second half you had forty nine Ers, Chargers, Rams,

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 4>Or do you think it's more about.

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 2>The fact that teams have adapted to what Dallas is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Dallas is even adapted a little bit, knowing they

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 2>got to really focus more on the run.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think is a bigger.

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Factor in that decline in their past rush I mean,

0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 2>in their pressure rate.

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<v Speaker 8>I think both things are t through in different amounts.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think it's as much adaptation as it is

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 8>level of competition. But adaptation is there as well. As

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.839
<v Speaker 8>any NFL season rolls along, the more and more film

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.320
<v Speaker 8>gets out there, and you know, opposing defensive coordinators that

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 8>you're about to face, they're going to, you know, try

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:19.760
<v Speaker 8>to learn and copycat from what worked against the other teams.

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 8>Even if you actually came out the victor for that

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 8>other team, they're going to be things that worked for

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:24.879
<v Speaker 8>that other team even if they lost.

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<v Speaker 5>So it goes to adaptation.

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<v Speaker 8>But more than anything, look at the level of offensive

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 8>competition that they've gone up against San Francisco forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 8>We know Kyle Shanahan has their number until further notice

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 8>like that's hands down. Even with the Los Angeles Charges,

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 8>they were able to get pressures on Justin Herbert. But

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 8>Callen Moore, he's familiar with dan Quinn, the defense, the

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 8>defensive personnel, you know, about getting the ball out where

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 8>the areas were. And of course we talked about after

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 8>that game, Herbert missed some throws down the field that

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 8>could have changed that game. So Los Angeles Rams kind

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 8>of an aberration there, but going in still solid offense.

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 8>We talked about Pookah Cooper, Matthew is mostly healthy going

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 8>that game, they had some some gamers and then of

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 8>course Philadelphia Eagles and that offense. Cowboys did a great

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 8>job of mostly bottling up the passing attack. But if

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 8>you look at the last four forty nine ers, Chargers, Rams, Eagles,

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 8>those offenses are markedly better than Giants, Jets, Cardinals, Patriots.

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<v Speaker 8>I think, really it's two things, but more so that

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<v Speaker 8>than the other thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Same. What did I say to that?

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 7>I completely five, I completely no, completely agree. I mean

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 7>the nature is, yeah, you watch film week after week

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 7>and study your opponent and all that, but I do

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 7>agree for sure also about the opponents just being at

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 7>a higher level than what you initially faced at the

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:48.399
<v Speaker 7>first four weeks of the season.

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<v Speaker 9>Teams three and three without Digs in the lineup. When

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 9>did Layton Vanderish get hurt? I think all of a sudden,

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.760
<v Speaker 9>you're in a situation now where it's.

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 4>Wait, what week was that he Layton get San Francisco.

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 8>San Francisco is coming up there and he's not going

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 8>to be his windows not going to get started yet.

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:09.399
<v Speaker 8>He needs a few more weeks.

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I think even if they're ready to bring

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:12.240
<v Speaker 4>him back at that point, like I think.

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 3>It didn't sound but it didn't sound too optimistic by

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 3>the way.

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Trevon got hurt.

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 3>September twenty first, So that was right befo the Arizona game.

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:22.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, right before.

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.800
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, they're three and three with with him out, without

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 9>him in the lineup, and with him in the lineup,

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 9>they were one of the most dominant.

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Defenses in the league. And then you lose, You lose

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 3>Layton van der Ash.

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 9>Now all of a sudden, people are having to commit

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 9>other jobs or commit to other jobs to make up

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.959
<v Speaker 9>for lost players. I think your defense got affected that way.

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's and I don't I don't know

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 2>if everybody really thinks about how much the loss of

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.439
<v Speaker 2>Trayvon dis because you look at it and you're like, man,

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>he got you got Bland playing really well. But it's

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 2>it's a trickle down effect, right, you would have had

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Bland and Digs on the field and now you don't.

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 2>That's that that's a there's a big effect there.

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 8>And with the loss of lv then you know, we're

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 8>talking about what's Michael's splits as far as d E

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 8>versus linebacker, as far as fully committing him to d

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 8>as you were pre lv E lost and now lost

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 8>and now you have to kind of move him around

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 8>to kind of selve that wound.

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:13.720
<v Speaker 3>That's my reason.

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.359
<v Speaker 6>Okay, so there is something else to add to that.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 5>That was good.

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 6>That was good.

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm just an old guy.

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.359
<v Speaker 4>Here's no personnel guy over there.

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be like, man, I really wish I had

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 2>this player and this player now.

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 7>But it's amazing, No, it's amazing to see what this

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 7>defense has become over the years.

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 6>Because going back to.

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Sean Lee era couldn't win a game with that.

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 7>You could not like able to come to crumbles if

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 7>he wasn't on the field. So to think that not

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 7>just one, but two of key players in your defense

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 7>are out of the game, out of the field, and

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 7>you're still being able to play at a pretty good

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 7>level to compete and and kind of hold your opposing

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.359
<v Speaker 7>offense or holding for you to do it at least

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.959
<v Speaker 7>some day. I mean, the compete offense hasn't.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll take I'll take my chances playing with Diggs, Bland

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<v Speaker 9>and Gilmore in the secondary, and I think I could

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<v Speaker 9>get past Rush home.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I come for sex. I think I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, I agree, all right. One other one other

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<v Speaker 2>thing I wanted to hit to on that note. Sam Williams,

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<v Speaker 2>he is a guy that has been according to him

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<v Speaker 2>it probably underused, not used enough, hasn't been given enough

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<v Speaker 2>of an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>He put out a tweet. He did delete it later,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was just like freexam right.

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<v Speaker 2>But but he did talk about later like he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>some more opportunities.

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<v Speaker 9>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And and so my question for you and now I

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<v Speaker 2>do it's an interesting question because I think Sam Williams

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<v Speaker 2>to me is a guy that I think has ability.

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I think he's flashed a ton now. He also has

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<v Speaker 2>had some moments where you're like, ooh, Sam, are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>He's kind of slowly cleaned up his game.

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<v Speaker 2>He has, but but again that's with limited reps. So

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<v Speaker 2>my question is, do you think think they should be

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get him out there more or do you

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<v Speaker 2>think they have to limit him a little bit so

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<v Speaker 2>that they can get.

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<v Speaker 4>The best of him without.

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<v Speaker 2>The stuff that they don't necessarily want.

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<v Speaker 9>I personally feel like that if I see Golston out

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<v Speaker 9>there in that position, I feel like I need to

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<v Speaker 9>see Williams. I'll tell you another one that doesn't get

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<v Speaker 9>enough shine or enough burn for how he plays and

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 9>the number of snaps he gets is Faller. If you

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<v Speaker 9>watch Faler on tape, Faler gets pressure. Faler is a

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<v Speaker 9>factor in how you pass rush. He's a factor in

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<v Speaker 9>the Twist game. I can understand where Sam's coming from, though,

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<v Speaker 9>I really can. You know, look at the other day,

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<v Speaker 9>it's you know, he's almost got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 9>a David Irvin to him. You know, you play him

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<v Speaker 9>twelve plays in the game, and he has three impactful plays,

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<v Speaker 9>So you're wondering, well, if I play him, maybe if

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<v Speaker 9>I play.

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<v Speaker 3>Him double, that would I have six more plays?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, that's where I kind of feel like. But

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<v Speaker 9>it's a lot about trust. It really is about trust.

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 9>Can we trust you line up on sides? Can we

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<v Speaker 9>trust you not to hit the quarterback?

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<v Speaker 3>Low joy?

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<v Speaker 9>Trust you not to stick your right hand in the

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<v Speaker 9>face of the offensive tackle. You know, that's where it's at,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, when you want to put him on the

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<v Speaker 9>field on third down? Yeah, a great chance you're going

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<v Speaker 9>to get off the field. There's also a chance he's

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<v Speaker 9>going to commit a penalty to keep the drive going.

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<v Speaker 9>But man, what he's a hell of a player, he

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<v Speaker 9>really really is. He just you know, there's times where

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<v Speaker 9>you just you're kind of you're standing at the craps

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<v Speaker 9>table with your dice in hand, you know, and you're

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<v Speaker 9>just rolling them out there and seeing what happens.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, they didn't, they didn't stop you. Oh my god,

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 7>how did I forget his name already?

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<v Speaker 6>The corner? Oh no, the one, the hot issue.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't wait the field, the boss man fat.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you know Kevin Joseph?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you no longer know the vic.

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<v Speaker 6>I forget I forget. No.

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<v Speaker 7>But my point is, and they kind of were forced

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<v Speaker 7>to because there was like nobody else, what do you mean,

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<v Speaker 7>like on on special teams like he kept getting I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>didn't stop you from you were forced.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, you were forced.

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<v Speaker 7>But at the same time, we've seen it happen where

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<v Speaker 7>and I think, how can you how can you improve

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<v Speaker 7>more or get better if you don't keep getting chances?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I'd love to see it like not hiring

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<v Speaker 8>a person because they don't have experience, but hiring them

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<v Speaker 8>would give them the experience kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Start somewhere I labeled preseason.

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<v Speaker 8>I labeled Sam as one one of two guys, Damon

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<v Speaker 8>being the other that would take a massive year or

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<v Speaker 8>two leap. And he's not taking it quite yet, but

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<v Speaker 8>he's flashed and you see most recently against the Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 4>Eagles, but it's not a fault he's not taking.

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<v Speaker 8>Guess that's why I was going because in the game,

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<v Speaker 8>like the Philadelphia Eagles, he gets off immediately, sack fumble

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 8>didn't fall in the Cowboys favor but Sam and he

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<v Speaker 8>was eating and then after a few reps he kind

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<v Speaker 8>of disappeared because the Cowboys pulled back on him. So

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<v Speaker 8>that more is on the coaching staff saying, hey, both

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<v Speaker 8>of you guys, point how much can we expose you to?

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<v Speaker 5>Added reps in a game.

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<v Speaker 8>That's this close, And that might have been the thought

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<v Speaker 8>process as well, because that was a hard fought, close

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<v Speaker 8>game in that second half, and maybe there was a

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<v Speaker 8>part of McCarthy and dan quinn that said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>is the next play that we put Sam on the field,

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<v Speaker 8>it's either going to be a boom play and he

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<v Speaker 8>gets this sack, or it's going to be a fifteen

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<v Speaker 8>yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty or unsports abenity late hit hands

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 8>of the face, something that really swings momentum in the

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 8>Eagles favor. So, like like Brian said, you're kind of

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<v Speaker 8>rolling the dice. So it does go to trust. The

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<v Speaker 8>more trust he builds, I believe, the more reps he

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<v Speaker 8>will get. But there's also the good problem that the

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<v Speaker 8>Cowboys have of Dante Fowler is still effective, Us Armstrong

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<v Speaker 8>is still effective. He's one of your best run stoppers.

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<v Speaker 8>On top of getting pressure, Tank is still tank. Micah

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<v Speaker 8>having more of a linebacker split than he had in

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<v Speaker 8>the first four games should free up more reps for Sam,

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<v Speaker 8>but again, it all goes to how much can dan

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<v Speaker 8>Quinn trust that Sam is going to continue his upward

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 8>trajectory with the boom and the downward trajectory with the bust.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, that's a wrap.

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<v Speaker 5>We will be back tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll jump into the Cowboys offense versus the Giants defense.

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<v Speaker 2>That will be a little more of an interesting, interesting matchup,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, they did lose.

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<v Speaker 2>They did lose one of their best defensive players by

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<v Speaker 2>a trade, so we'll see how that is effected. Then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about that tomorrow. So that for Patrick Walker.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian brought a Sam regard to im Derek Eagleston. This

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<v Speaker 2>has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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