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Speaker 1: with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, November eighth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 2: episode number sixty six. Welcome to the latest edition of
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Speaker 2: for Cowboys versus Giants.
Speaker 4: We take every game.
Speaker 2: Seriously here, so we will dive in and Brian's gonna
Speaker 2: give us his thoughts on this giant offense I'm sorry
Speaker 2: versus Cowboys defense. We'll get to the Cowboys offense tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Where I wanted to start today though, is just kind
Speaker 2: of looking at the NFC East. I was noticing the
Speaker 2: schedules and I think I tweeted about it. I think
Speaker 2: multiple people have tweeted about it. It's really looking at
Speaker 2: kind of how this is shaping up, looking at what
Speaker 2: happened last weekend versus the Eagles. Cowboys get the loss,
Speaker 2: but there is an opportunity here for the Cowboys if
Speaker 2: you look at the next three to four weeks before
Speaker 2: they run into the Eagles again at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 2: Check this out, Cowboys over the next four weeks are
Speaker 2: going to play the Giants at Carolina, home against Washington,
Speaker 2: home against Seattle. We know Dallas has played really really
Speaker 2: well at home. Three of the next four are at home.
Speaker 2: Three of those teams have losing records. Seattle is the
Speaker 2: only one with a winning record that Dallas will face
Speaker 2: in the next four weeks at Juxtaposed that to what
Speaker 2: Philadelphia will be looking at. They have a bye this week,
Speaker 2: which they need because they had a lot of guys
Speaker 2: that got banged up in that last game. Then they
Speaker 2: go on the road to play Kansas City, who leads
Speaker 2: their division, and then they play Buffalo in Philadelphia, and
Speaker 2: then they also play San Francisco in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: So my question for you guys is.
Speaker 2: As you're looking at that, what do you think is
Speaker 2: a likelihood that Dallas handles its business and wins the
Speaker 2: next four games?
Speaker 5: What's the tip in first?
Speaker 6: I think they can I mean.
Speaker 7: Again, we've seen them compete, being able to compete against
Speaker 7: teams like the ones you presented. It's now and I
Speaker 7: don't want to use the verbiage that upset fans use
Speaker 7: or the haters use because I'm not in there, but
Speaker 7: I don't know what else to use, So sorry my
Speaker 7: lack of Dictionary words. But basically it's the whole quote unquote.
Speaker 7: They can't beat good teams. They can only be like
Speaker 7: the okay teams, but they can't beat teams like forty
Speaker 7: nine Ers the Eagles. So the ones that are like in
Speaker 7: that range, we're kind of similar to, like you know,
Speaker 7: that can happen unless something crazy happens like Arizona. Hopefully
Speaker 7: they learn their lesson and they don't take that for
Speaker 7: granted and there is full on preparation during the week
Speaker 7: where they show up and it translates into the game.
Speaker 7: But I do think, like this is not really a
Speaker 7: question can they or can they not beat them? I
Speaker 7: do think they can beat those teams, But what will
Speaker 7: happen when they face another good, good team? What happens
Speaker 7: when even if they get into the playoffs, they start
Speaker 7: out again having to face either the forty nine ers,
Speaker 7: unless say even I believe the next Eagle games, I
Speaker 7: think the Cowboy, damn it, I will take the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: But it's at home and it changes things a little bit.
Speaker 7: They do tend to play better, and that's another thing.
Speaker 7: The positive side is now we do have some home
Speaker 7: games kind of piling up and coming up, which hasn't
Speaker 7: you know, we've had a lot of road games and
Speaker 7: history shows under Mike McCarthy. The Cowboys do tend to
Speaker 7: win and play a lot better when at home.
Speaker 8: I think it is very possible, even likely, and I
Speaker 8: say likely with the assumption that they've learned from Arizona,
Speaker 8: that they've learned to not overlook teams that they've learned
Speaker 8: to not you know, follow all the outside noise about
Speaker 8: Daniel Jones being done with the torn acl and will
Speaker 8: it be Tommy DeVito or will it be Matt Barkley
Speaker 8: who is activated or put up to the active roster today.
Speaker 5: Don't worry about any of that.
Speaker 8: Go play the Giants, and go play the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 8: and of course you better play the Commanders who always
Speaker 8: play the Cowboys like it's their Super Bowl. Go play
Speaker 8: those sub five hundred teams as if they're you know,
Speaker 8: the Eagles as if they're the forty nine ers, as
Speaker 8: long as they do that, And then you flip to
Speaker 8: the other side and you say, absolutely being realistic, the
Speaker 8: Eagles are going through a gauntlet right now. They come
Speaker 8: out of there by week, like you said, Chiefs, that's
Speaker 8: in Kansas City. And then they played the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 8: in the forty nine ers. Who says they don't lose
Speaker 8: all three of those games, So maybe lose two of
Speaker 8: those three games. I say all of that to say
Speaker 8: it's a situation where the rematch, the stage is set
Speaker 8: for the rematch as long as the Cowboys handle their business,
Speaker 8: and they could have very similar, if not entirely similar
Speaker 8: records when they meet at at and T Stadium to
Speaker 8: jump off, December is when we meet them, Yeah, December
Speaker 8: two tenth. Yeah, so that the rematch is really what's
Speaker 8: going to tell the story of the NFC East. For me,
Speaker 8: I think Sundays told a lot, but that's not the
Speaker 8: whole story. The real story gets told on December ten.
Speaker 9: I'm focused on five games for Philadelphia and it even
Speaker 9: goes past the game against Dallas. Three of the five
Speaker 9: are on the road. They catch a break, they get
Speaker 9: Buffalo at home, and they get San Francisco at home.
Speaker 9: I think those are two difficult places to play, so
Speaker 9: they'll carry those games at home. The games I think
Speaker 9: they had the best chance to lose is that Kansas
Speaker 9: City and then the Dallas game, and then the following
Speaker 9: week at Seattle. I think that you need to carry
Speaker 9: that thing a little further, you know, and maybe, like
Speaker 9: I said, I think it'll be a tough stretch for
Speaker 9: them to go those five games. They've been very fortunate
Speaker 9: with the way that they've at times played very sloppy
Speaker 9: football and tried to give games away and people haven't
Speaker 9: been willing to take them. I think the next five
Speaker 9: games that they're going to play against teams that will
Speaker 9: take those games from them if they play sloppy. But
Speaker 9: it's going to be if they go out and beat
Speaker 9: Kansas City after the bye Buffalo. I mean, it really
Speaker 9: is going to be about that. To me, that first game,
Speaker 9: How do they play against Kansas City? You know, that
Speaker 9: will tell me a lot about how they managed the buy.
Speaker 9: It used to be with Andy Reid there. Andy always
Speaker 9: won after a bye. They were one of the best
Speaker 9: teams in the league when it came to records after
Speaker 9: a bye when he was in Philadelphia. But they're games,
Speaker 9: They're losable games to me, are the ones that they're
Speaker 9: going to play on the road the next five.
Speaker 2: Which game of the next four for Dallas do you
Speaker 2: think is the one that troubled you most?
Speaker 8: I'd probably say I want to say the Seahawks because
Speaker 8: right now I do hold the Seahawks in high.
Speaker 5: Regard as they saw yesterday. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8: But advantage to the Cowboys because that game, unlike Philadelphia
Speaker 8: having to play Seattle, they have to go to Seattle.
Speaker 5: Seattle, the Seahawks have to come to all them.
Speaker 2: That's a cross country right, Yeah, it's a tough.
Speaker 3: So especially after traveling to Dallas.
Speaker 9: Now you know, hell, they might they might just sc
Speaker 9: ahead and go halfway and say it to stay what
Speaker 9: they might do.
Speaker 2: It's not an easy flight from Dallas, Like that's probably
Speaker 2: all this trip Dallas has to take when they have
Speaker 2: to go up to Seattle.
Speaker 8: So I want to say Seahawks. I think the most
Speaker 8: competitive one on paper is going to be Seahawks. But
Speaker 8: advantage Cowboys because they get the Seahawks at home. Keeping
Speaker 8: on the commanders of that four game pack, that four
Speaker 8: pack keeping out on the Commanders. They gave the Eagles
Speaker 8: a run for their money. On two separate occasions they
Speaker 8: scored more than thirty thirty or more And on two
Speaker 8: separate occasions, don't get caught slipping against the division rival
Speaker 8: that once that whose season is back to going down
Speaker 8: the Bowl and all they have is bragging rights and
Speaker 8: that's what makes them play up to the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: So for me, I'm going to say Commander.
Speaker 9: Commanders on a short week in having to deal with
Speaker 9: their skill on all out side and yeah, and their
Speaker 9: quarterback does have a His first start in the NFL
Speaker 9: was the win. I know it was Week seventeen last year,
Speaker 9: but you know, he could be very streaky in the
Speaker 9: way he plays.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a division game.
Speaker 9: I would think a little bit differently about it if
Speaker 9: you'd already played the Commanders and you kind of had
Speaker 9: an idea of where they're at. But you know, at
Speaker 9: that point in time, you know, we might be hearing
Speaker 9: a lot about the Commanders. Is you know, are they
Speaker 9: the point where they've quit yet? I don't think they've quit,
Speaker 9: but you know, maybe by the time you get to
Speaker 9: Thanksgiving they might have. But there's a lot of skill
Speaker 9: on that team, there's still the pass rushers on the
Speaker 9: edges that you're going to have to deal with in
Speaker 9: that game, and so that one worries me the absolute most.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: To me, what's interesting about the Commanders is that whether
Speaker 7: or not they're having a good season, let's say they're
Speaker 7: having a bad season, they're always there's always a little something.
Speaker 7: There's always a little something that they got in store
Speaker 7: for the Cowboys in that game. So you can't it's
Speaker 7: not like the Giants that now year after year we
Speaker 7: kind of take it as like, Okay, that's Dallas has beaten.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they haven't defeated deck since twenty sixteen, so it's
Speaker 8: been a while.
Speaker 6: So it's one of as opposed to that.
Speaker 7: Regardless what the Commander situation currently is, they always have
Speaker 7: something to do for the Cowboys. But also Seattle. I
Speaker 7: think Seattle, despite the travels and all that and the
Speaker 7: game being at home for the Cowboys, they they're a
Speaker 7: team that I always see be extremely competitive against the
Speaker 7: Cowboys and just have that little extra aggressiveness. Yeah, so
Speaker 7: I think those two for sure, But I would be
Speaker 7: leaning more tours Seattle mainly because of the current state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think for me, it's the commanders.
Speaker 2: This is not the first time we've seen the Commanders
Speaker 2: have to come in here on Thanksgiving Day and get
Speaker 2: a win, and that happens, and so I just.
Speaker 5: I believe y.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I remember the year was at r
Speaker 2: G three. I think came here one year Thanksgiving and
Speaker 2: and uh and put a put a whooping on the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so it's it.
Speaker 3: It happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens for sure. And that's that's the one
Speaker 2: that's scared. When the when the schedule first came out,
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't care what the records are,
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is gonna be a hard game.
Speaker 4: Be a hard game. So we'll see how that that
Speaker 4: plays out.
Speaker 2: But I do think it's interesting here that you know,
Speaker 2: as much as you hate to see the loss as
Speaker 2: a Cowboys fan, if you're pulling for the Cowboys, you
Speaker 2: hate to see a loss against the Eagles, but you
Speaker 2: look at this next these next four weeks, it can
Speaker 2: really change a lot. And and Brian, you even mentioned
Speaker 2: going beyond that. If you go beyond that, and you
Speaker 2: gotta also look at the Dallas schedule, and Dallas schedule
Speaker 2: gets really tough. After that, that's when you start getting
Speaker 2: into your Buffalo's and your Miami's and your Detroit like,
Speaker 2: there's some tough, tough games coming up after after that.
Speaker 9: For Dallas, the way that Philadelphia finished is twice against
Speaker 9: the Giants and once against Arizona.
Speaker 4: So they'll be cruising by then.
Speaker 2: They might be sitting people by then exactly, so it'll
Speaker 2: be it'll be interesting. But I guess, I guess the
Speaker 2: point of this whole conversation is that it is not done.
Speaker 2: The NFC East is not done. They have a two
Speaker 2: and a half game lead. But but Dallas has an
Speaker 2: opportunity here to make them, hey, if they can do
Speaker 2: their part when the games are supposed to win and
Speaker 2: put themselves in position by the time they face the
Speaker 2: Eagles in week was that fourteen thirteen?
Speaker 5: Week thirteen?
Speaker 8: I mean, it works out favorably for the Cowboys as
Speaker 8: far as most of their games to this point have
Speaker 8: been on the road, and then you're going you drop
Speaker 8: a close when the Philadelphia they're about to go on
Speaker 8: a three game gauntlet. You're about to go on I
Speaker 8: don't want to say easy, but one that's not as challenging,
Speaker 8: and you're at home where you've been dominant. So again,
Speaker 8: by the time this rematch ques up, they should they
Speaker 8: could very likely have a similar schedule, similar records.
Speaker 7: Sorry, looking at it, I'm just like, this is be
Speaker 7: a rough ride because still I don't know how long
Speaker 7: can this O line stay healthy? And we still have
Speaker 7: it's not an even number, but we still have a
Speaker 7: whole half of the season, and and look what the
Speaker 7: first half of the season has been with the struggles
Speaker 7: of the O line, and mainly I think it all
Speaker 7: comes just straight from being not being healthy.
Speaker 8: I just want the peanut butter and jelly. I was
Speaker 8: thinking about it on the drive in. That's what I
Speaker 8: want from the Cowboys offensive line. I want the peanut,
Speaker 8: butter and the jelly. Earlier this season, I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 8: earlier this season, with the injuries to the left side
Speaker 8: of the line, you had the right side of the
Speaker 8: line holding it down with Zach Martin, Terrence Steele, when
Speaker 8: Steel was one of the bright spots. Now it's kind
Speaker 8: of flipped. So you see a game like Philadelphia, Tyrant
Speaker 8: comes back, he has one of the best games you've
Speaker 8: seen him have in recent memory. Tyler Smith allowed only
Speaker 8: one pressure in seventeen one on one snaps against Jalen Carter,
Speaker 8: so he was the Jaylen Carter start before most of
Speaker 8: that game, but then it was the right side with
Speaker 8: Terren Steele struggling. So why is it always the peanut
Speaker 8: butter but not the jelly. So once the peanut butter
Speaker 8: and the jelly comes together, that sound which is gonna
Speaker 8: taste pretty good for the go Lies.
Speaker 3: Let me just say I do to worry about them
Speaker 3: really coming together though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really do think.
Speaker 9: I think we're past the small sample size bit now,
Speaker 9: you know, and I know we're halfway finished. I've talked
Speaker 9: a couple of different times yes year on some platforms
Speaker 9: and stuff. My commitment to you know, running the football,
Speaker 9: to me, I don't think that's something that they're going
Speaker 9: to fix. Now, maybe they'll fix it because of the opponent,
Speaker 9: but you have to prove to me that you could
Speaker 9: be able to run the football, and they and they've
Speaker 9: yet to do that really against anybody with any real success.
Speaker 9: That's the thing I think going forward that bothers me
Speaker 9: the most about what the schedule lays out and how
Speaker 9: it lays out, because I feel like that they're going
Speaker 9: to have to work on the protection side of things.
Speaker 9: It's going to be about putting it on Dak's back
Speaker 9: again and then trying to kind of win this thing
Speaker 9: that way through the air.
Speaker 3: That's where their best players are.
Speaker 2: We're going to get into this a little deeper tomorrow
Speaker 2: when we talk about the Cowboys offense. But I think
Speaker 2: an interesting point that we have not really talked about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've heard many people talk about it,
Speaker 2: but one of the guys on Twitter that follows me
Speaker 2: and actually tweets some really good stuff, Josh O'Bryant, asked
Speaker 2: the question, why is nobody talking about the change in
Speaker 2: the coaching of the offensive line.
Speaker 4: And that's something where I think we got.
Speaker 3: Did we did that? Though we really did. I wasn't here, no, No.
Speaker 2: In training camp we talked ye, I'm talking about the
Speaker 2: season has gone, things.
Speaker 9: That could hurt the offense. Was the fact that the
Speaker 9: turnover of a coordinator, a play caller, a running backs coach,
Speaker 9: a line coach. That was the one thing that was
Speaker 9: my and I'm not saying me, I'm saying as a group,
Speaker 9: we brought up the fact in June, or I know
Speaker 9: one of the June conversations we have is play caller
Speaker 9: gets changed out because they don't and everything doesn't coordinate,
Speaker 9: everything doesn't mesh with you know, there was too much turnover.
Speaker 2: And that was and I think that was a question
Speaker 2: of will this be a problem? Now I think the
Speaker 2: question it has to be we are in it. It
Speaker 2: is a problem, and is the problem related to the
Speaker 2: fat app You've got new coaching in those areas where
Speaker 2: you're having some of the challenges. And I think that's
Speaker 2: a conversation we're gonna have tomorrow when we talk about
Speaker 2: the Cowboys offense a little bit deeper, because I think
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Speaker 2: Giants offense. I want to start with the quarterback. They
Speaker 2: have lost Daniel Jones now for the season due to
Speaker 2: a torn acl They have Tommy DeVito who came in
Speaker 2: in relief of him. They also, as of this morning,
Speaker 2: signed Matt Barkley as a backup quarterback, So those are
Speaker 2: new quarterbacks on their roster. I guess first, I'll start
Speaker 2: with Tommy DeVito. Brian, give me a scouting report. If
Speaker 2: you were trying to tell someone, here's what he does. Well,
Speaker 2: here's what he doesn't do. Well, talk to me about
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito.
Speaker 9: He's an older guy. He's twenty five years old as
Speaker 9: a rookie, and you know he because the COVID situations
Speaker 9: and stuff. These quarterbacks. Twenty nine five, Yeah, twenty five
Speaker 9: years old. He's not physically a very big guy. He's
Speaker 9: like six ' one right around there. He's finished a
Speaker 9: couple of games for the Giants to season, the Jets
Speaker 9: game and then the Raiders game due to those injuries
Speaker 9: that we've been talking about. His redeeming traits, I feel
Speaker 9: like his arm talent is not poor, and he's athletic
Speaker 9: enough to navigate the pocket. He's one of those guys
Speaker 9: when he makes a decision, it's like it's certainly I'm
Speaker 9: gonna go there with the ball, or he's going to
Speaker 9: say I don't like this and he takes off running.
Speaker 3: So there's those times.
Speaker 9: I think with the Cowboys, you have to be ready
Speaker 9: if the quarterback of if he's not sure, he's going
Speaker 9: to run immediately. He's not going to wait around, try
Speaker 9: and move around and buy an extra second or two.
Speaker 9: When he decides to go, he's going to go. So
Speaker 9: you're gonna deal with a running quarterback, a scrambling quarterback.
Speaker 9: This week, the offensive line doesn't give him much of
Speaker 9: a time to read. It's that the week is part
Speaker 9: of their offense, for sure, But the opportunities that he
Speaker 9: can generate with his feet are think are something that
Speaker 9: the Cowboys need to be concerned about.
Speaker 2: So when you look at it, if there is a
Speaker 2: thing that we come in here Monday morning and we're like, man,
Speaker 2: the Cowboys defense had a problem with this quarterback, what
Speaker 2: is that thing?
Speaker 4: Is it the running?
Speaker 9: I think it's the running the arm talent. As I
Speaker 9: mentioned the receivers, they just do not have the ability
Speaker 9: up front to hold anybody out for any length of time,
Speaker 9: to let anybody go through their They've got talented wide receivers,
Speaker 9: some of the best skill guys that they've had there
Speaker 9: the last couple of years. But the pocket breaks down
Speaker 9: on them so fast. It doesn't matter what quarterback they
Speaker 9: have watched them all play. It just pocket collapses on him.
Speaker 9: And now the quarterback is forced to have to make
Speaker 9: a scramble throw or to run. In Devido's case, he's
Speaker 9: more athlete. And you know Daniel Jones would run. This
Speaker 9: guy runs because he's not sure. He doesn't want to
Speaker 9: take a chance. He's rather he's going to He'll get
Speaker 9: six yards slide, you'll get five yard slide, He'll get
Speaker 9: eight yards slide. That's the kind of a quarterback you're
Speaker 9: dealing with. So Cowboys have got to be careful of
Speaker 9: that in this be careful not to let him rush.
Speaker 9: Lane's integrity, gap responsibilities, all those things, especially when they
Speaker 9: rush this guy.
Speaker 2: Would you spy a guy like that, because I mean,
Speaker 2: when you start looking at the rest of their team,
Speaker 2: I don't know that anybody scares you other than maybe
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. So would you devote a guy maybe to
Speaker 2: be able to suspend I.
Speaker 9: Would be very mindful of it. I would you know,
Speaker 9: whether that's Marquise Bell or somebody like that, Clark, somebody
Speaker 9: to stay in that area. A lot of times the
Speaker 9: Cowboys will play man coverage or they'll play with me
Speaker 9: called mayn free where the free safety is the guy
Speaker 9: at depth is the one that's the free player. In
Speaker 9: this case, maybe the linebackers, if you know, just kind
Speaker 9: of mirror him when he's the protecting. The rush could
Speaker 9: get to him before even has a chance to break pocket.
Speaker 3: But if he does, you just need a.
Speaker 9: Guy right there to make sure that he doesn't get
Speaker 9: too far down the field.
Speaker 7: The way you're describing him sounds kind of like a
Speaker 7: quarterback though. Yeah, you can manage and handle, but can
Speaker 7: also surprise you on.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the surprising aspect of it is I think he's
Speaker 9: not just this a quarterback with with that lacks armstrength,
Speaker 9: arm talent. I mean, the one interception he threw in
Speaker 9: the Raiders game was middle of the pocket, just launches
Speaker 9: it down the middle of the Raider's safety has made
Speaker 9: a really good play down the middle of the field.
Speaker 9: They just couldn't get the ball far enough inside, but
Speaker 9: he threw it. You know, those are the great disc
Speaker 9: The ball comes off his hand pretty well. You know,
Speaker 9: how you're able to cover on the outside. I think
Speaker 9: will be important in this game. But this the running,
Speaker 9: Everything in my mind keeps coming back to his ability
Speaker 9: to scramble, especially if he gets third down and it's
Speaker 9: third and say you've got him in third and eight,
Speaker 9: third and nine, and then he takes off running and
Speaker 9: it's a ten yard game, and that's how they keep
Speaker 9: the sticks moving.
Speaker 8: And to support Brian's point, as I sit here and
Speaker 8: look at DeVito's collegiate numbers, and obviously he split time
Speaker 8: between Syracuse and Illinois. Sophomore for Syracuse, he took off
Speaker 8: and ran one hundred and twelve times. Now he's not
Speaker 8: the best at getting yards per tote because it was
Speaker 8: only one point one yard for carry.
Speaker 5: So I mean that's the sacks included that exactly. So
Speaker 5: he would take off and run.
Speaker 8: And then his final season, which was with Illinois, he
Speaker 8: took off and ran seventy three times. So he's to
Speaker 8: Bryan's point, he's not afraid to just you know, panic
Speaker 8: and run.
Speaker 9: Well if he doesn't see what he thinks, I mean,
Speaker 9: and that's a lot of times with these young quarterbacks,
Speaker 9: if they're not sure, they're better off trying to run
Speaker 9: and get positive yards and then fight for the next play.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: So you talked about the offensive line and the problems
Speaker 2: they're having there.
Speaker 4: Where are the most vulnerable on the offensive line?
Speaker 3: Take your pick the left tackle. Andrew Thomas's I think
Speaker 3: is a good player.
Speaker 9: I mean, but the problem Andrew Thomas is it's kind
Speaker 9: of falling into that. People have kind of taken a
Speaker 9: little bit of advantage to him because they get him
Speaker 9: off balance. You know, the rushers are able to that's
Speaker 9: the thing. He's really he's a big, massive guy. Run
Speaker 9: down the middle of him. He's going to be good
Speaker 9: to you. He can move a little bit, you know,
Speaker 9: his lateral slide. Things like that I think are pretty good.
Speaker 9: But there's some teams that have gotten him off balance
Speaker 9: and then when he becomes that all balanced player that
Speaker 9: people have been able to get around him. But you know,
Speaker 9: capturing the edge on him is a little bit tougher
Speaker 9: than on the other side. Evan Neil and I was
Speaker 9: talking to a guy at the Giants this morning, and
Speaker 9: you know, they're a mess, and he said, listen, Evan Neil.
Speaker 9: He hyper extended his ankle this past game. He's miss
Speaker 9: games already. It looks like that Tyree Phillips is going
Speaker 9: to start. Phillips's made some starts for them already. When
Speaker 9: Evan Neil missed two games. The Cowboys really took advantage
Speaker 9: of Evan Neil in that first game that they played.
Speaker 4: And that's their best one.
Speaker 3: Thomas is Thomas the best one.
Speaker 9: Neil, I think is Neil is another massive guy, but
Speaker 9: he's slow footed, and that's where I think that, uh,
Speaker 9: you know, the problems have been. But they're confident that
Speaker 9: that Tyree Phillips can can come in. He's played a
Speaker 9: couple of times. They're saying the way that Neil's been playing,
Speaker 9: it's not a huge drop off, So that says a
Speaker 9: lot right there. So but you know Neil is watching
Speaker 9: him play, rushers have consistently found a way to break
Speaker 9: him down. Now when you look at Phillips play, he
Speaker 9: has trouble with those kind of quick, fast, twitchy guys,
Speaker 9: guys that kind of you know, have a little bit
Speaker 9: of movement to their game. So but he's he hasn't
Speaker 9: been as much of a liability as when you watch
Speaker 9: Evan Neil play.
Speaker 8: Beyond one, I'm good And I was just going to
Speaker 8: say the bum line is I mean, when you look
Speaker 8: at the matchups offensive line versus defensive line for the Boys,
Speaker 8: that's that should be lunch for this Cowboys defensive line
Speaker 8: across the board in all fiuve spots. It's the it's
Speaker 8: a worst offensive line in New York that they're about
Speaker 8: to face here in Arlington than the one that they
Speaker 8: racked up thirty six quarterback pressures in Week one against
Speaker 8: seven secs. So if you did that against their starters
Speaker 8: in week one and now you're dealing with you know,
Speaker 8: Avenel with the hyper extension and stuff like that, Yeah,
Speaker 8: like Brian said, take your pick, I mean.
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, they've they've tried they've tried to they've tried
Speaker 9: to address it, and they've used first round selections on tackles.
Speaker 9: They used the second round selection on John Michael Smith's.
Speaker 9: John Michael Smith's at the center is going to be
Speaker 9: a good player. The problem is he's just you know,
Speaker 9: it's a little bit like watching be Oddish play that
Speaker 9: sometimes that he could be really really good, and then
Speaker 9: other times guys get the edge on him and he
Speaker 9: can't get over and he's not strong.
Speaker 3: Enough to hold up power wise man.
Speaker 9: And then they have you know, Justin Pugh, who they
Speaker 9: you know, got off the couch to come play, you know,
Speaker 9: guard or tackle for him, and you know he's done.
Speaker 9: And then the you know, the other guard, Betterson is uh,
Speaker 9: you know he's he's not you know, he's he's a
Speaker 9: guy that traded for and he's just he's okay. So
Speaker 9: they've really really this has been the reason why they've
Speaker 9: really had problems scoring and and even moving the ball
Speaker 9: and keeping their quarterbacks up right is and it has
Speaker 9: to be super frustrating because if they've they've tried.
Speaker 3: To invest in it, they just haven't invested the right guys.
Speaker 2: I think we all can agree. Saquon Barkley is the
Speaker 2: one player on that offense that you worry the most
Speaker 2: about just because.
Speaker 4: Of his raw ability.
Speaker 2: But if you had to pinpoint one other person or
Speaker 2: two other people that are skilled players, who are the
Speaker 2: ones that we could be talking about on Monday morning
Speaker 2: that made a difference.
Speaker 9: I would worry about one Dell Robertson. He didn't play
Speaker 9: the first time that these two teams met, and he
Speaker 9: is a smaller kind of a slot player, but he's
Speaker 9: sure handed, he has quickness, he has a feel for
Speaker 9: how to get it open. He's good run after catch.
Speaker 9: I haven't figured out yet why they haven't got the well,
Speaker 9: I should say, I see why they haven't got the
Speaker 9: ball to Jalen Hyatt, the rookie from Tennessee who is
Speaker 9: a vertical player, a downfield player.
Speaker 3: Uh Man.
Speaker 9: I thought he was going to be a real steal
Speaker 9: and maybe one day he will be a steal for
Speaker 9: the Giants, but they just haven't found a way to
Speaker 9: get him the ball. And a lot of it has
Speaker 9: to do because they haven't been able to protect well
Speaker 9: enough to get the ball down the field. But Barkley, Robinson,
Speaker 9: Hyatt those kind because they lost their tight end, their
Speaker 9: tight ends. Their tight ends out. You know, Darren Waller
Speaker 9: is out, you know, with another he's still with a
Speaker 9: hamstring injury. There are a couple of their tight ends,
Speaker 9: h Bellinger and then Cager. They catch the ball well,
Speaker 9: they use them in a lot of different ways though.
Speaker 9: They're kind of a full back move guy in line
Speaker 9: tight end next to the tackle, so you'll see their
Speaker 9: tight endsually when they run the ball at the point
Speaker 9: of attack.
Speaker 8: In some way, I think I'm gonna go with Robinson
Speaker 8: just by default, because I mean, if you as you
Speaker 8: dissect their skill position players outside of sa Quan, you're
Speaker 8: really hard pressed to find someone that you should be
Speaker 8: overtly concerned about, particularly when you look at who they're
Speaker 8: going to have to match up against Darius Slayton versus
Speaker 8: this Cowboys secondary.
Speaker 5: I'm just not I mean, fifty six.
Speaker 8: Percent catch percentage, Yeah, he's outside of Darren Waller. He's
Speaker 8: a leader as far as yards receiving. But is he
Speaker 8: a game breaker. No, That's why they needed Jalen Hyatt
Speaker 8: to pop off. But Jalen Hyatt has not been able
Speaker 8: to pop off. So not really concerned about Jalen Hyatt. Plus,
Speaker 8: I saw how Jalen Hyatt was deleted by this very
Speaker 8: same Cowboys secondary. Obviously a lot of hype going into
Speaker 8: Jalen Hyatt him coming out of Tennessee Week one Cowboys
Speaker 8: at MetLife, and it was, oh, well, now the Giants
Speaker 8: have somebody who can take the top off against the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Nope, ah, not.
Speaker 3: So not so the pressure was so bad?
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it made that but which hopefully will be
Speaker 8: the same case they need to repeat it. So going
Speaker 8: to that, which is a great segue. If you assume
Speaker 8: that the pressure is going to be equal a little
Speaker 8: greater this time around on the Giants quarterback, then the
Speaker 8: release valve with Willer out is going to have to
Speaker 8: be Wander Robbers is going to have to be your
Speaker 8: slot receiver, working as much underneath as he can. So
Speaker 8: but even then, it's not a ton of concern for me.
Speaker 8: It starts and it stops with Saquon Barkley and that's
Speaker 8: who they got.
Speaker 9: They'll occasionally pop a run and they'll do it because
Speaker 9: what will happen is Barkley is that but he he
Speaker 9: is Uh. They're having a really hard time of getting
Speaker 9: him any type of space where they've had some successes
Speaker 9: the outside zone where everybody steps one way and they
Speaker 9: just hand the ball and then they you know, they
Speaker 9: get hat on a hat and then Barkley.
Speaker 3: Makes a cut.
Speaker 9: He Barkley still all these years of playing against him, Uh,
Speaker 9: he's still that same type of explosive guy catches the ball. Well,
Speaker 9: there's been some times we've seen where against Cotte where
Speaker 9: he's tipped balls up in the air and it's resulted
Speaker 9: in turn and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But overall, you.
Speaker 9: Know, I feel like that they're gonna try and take
Speaker 9: as much pressure off, uh, you know, off the veto
Speaker 9: as they can that you know, you got to try
Speaker 9: and run the ball a little bit and and then
Speaker 9: they'll test this Dallas front to see and Dallas has
Speaker 9: done a really good job of playing the run. Bell Clark,
Speaker 9: those guys have done a good job of playing downhill.
Speaker 9: They've held up in the middle pretty well. So you know,
Speaker 9: trying to scourge him from doing that and making them
Speaker 9: throw the football probably your best avenue here.
Speaker 8: Now here's the best better news when it comes to Saquon,
Speaker 8: because we can all agree that Saquan is going to
Speaker 8: be the end all be off for that Giants offense.
Speaker 5: Coming in Sequan is Oho to nine lifetime.
Speaker 8: Against Yeah, and particularly in the dan Quinn era, He's
Speaker 8: really struggled to get going in the dan Quinn era.
Speaker 8: So it just does not boat well for the Giants,
Speaker 8: which means you know, that bodes well for the Cowboys,
Speaker 8: and I would take that all day one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think uh McCarthy and the coaches
Speaker 7: should print out a bunch of pictures of screenshot of
Speaker 7: the game against Arizona the worst place and put it
Speaker 7: all over the building, all over the facility, because even
Speaker 7: I sit in here listening to you guys and no
Speaker 7: disrespect at all, but I'm finding a hard time caring
Speaker 7: about I mean, obviously you care about the game, but
Speaker 7: finding a hard time not dismissing what they currently have
Speaker 7: right now and all the struggles that they're dealing with offensively.
Speaker 7: So I can understand or see where someone on that
Speaker 7: side of the building could maybe potentially drift, jump on
Speaker 7: that drift and be on that same wagon of feeling
Speaker 7: that way, especially after the type of game they were
Speaker 7: able to have against them on that first week of
Speaker 7: the season.
Speaker 8: So it's here's a question, do you think that, And
Speaker 8: this is going to be a weird but interesting question,
Speaker 8: do you think that losing to the Eagles, and in
Speaker 8: the fashion in which they did it will help them
Speaker 8: defeat the Giants because it possibly helps them from overlooking
Speaker 8: the Giants because they can't afford to do so.
Speaker 5: Do you see what I mean?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't think that game really plays much into
Speaker 2: this game. What I'm more concerned about is this is
Speaker 2: the kind of game where, going to your point, Amber,
Speaker 2: I think the one thing I think Dallas's defense can
Speaker 2: do at times is they can get enamored with going
Speaker 2: to get the quarterback. And if they're looking at this
Speaker 2: game and saying, you know, we can really get our
Speaker 2: sack numbers up in this game, like let's go get
Speaker 2: that guy because he can't beat our pass rush. And
Speaker 2: they start doing that, and they start getting playing outside
Speaker 2: of the scheme, and now you get situations where that
Speaker 2: little crease and Barkley's off for a long run, or
Speaker 2: someone overruns a play and here you go with an
Speaker 2: end round with Wandelle Robinson and now he's off and running,
Speaker 2: and you got a situation where you're you missed the
Speaker 2: quarterback because you got outside of your your lane and
Speaker 2: he takes off running. And again I think that's exactly
Speaker 2: in my opinion, and I shouldn't exactly, but at least
Speaker 2: part of what I think happening with Arizona as well.
Speaker 4: I think they look that game and they probably like
Speaker 4: that quarterback.
Speaker 2: We ought to be able beat that quarterback, so we
Speaker 2: should be able to get to him and affect him.
Speaker 2: And I think what happened in the in the process
Speaker 2: is you got run on, like you over in you
Speaker 2: didn't play your gaps, and because you didn't play your gaps,
Speaker 2: you created a lot of bad situations for yourself. And
Speaker 2: that's where I look at this game. And if you're
Speaker 2: having a hard time figuring out how Dallas can lose it,
Speaker 2: that's how they can lose is if they don't play
Speaker 2: the right style of defense as they should where they've
Speaker 2: been playing really for the last several weeks, which is
Speaker 2: stop the run first. That is your top priority. If
Speaker 2: that leads to an opportunity for you to rush the past, great,
Speaker 2: Otherwise you're stopping the run. If they have that mentality,
Speaker 2: I think they run away. If they don't, I think
Speaker 2: this becomes.
Speaker 5: A very interesting game.
Speaker 3: Sure playing hero ball, yep, Yeah.
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna take our final break we'll come back.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Dallas defense and talking about that
Speaker 2: pressure rate. I was looking at some interesting numbers. Cowboys
Speaker 2: were there the pressure rate in the first four games
Speaker 2: of the season was significantly higher than when it's been
Speaker 2: in the last four weeks. I'm gonna ask you guys
Speaker 2: some questions about that and what you think maybe contributing
Speaker 2: to that. We'll talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 2: Final segment of the Break live from that s WBC
Speaker 2: Mortgane Studios at the Starlis Flip the other side of
Speaker 2: the ball, Dallas Defense. I prefaced right before the break.
Speaker 2: I was looking at some of the numbers, and really
Speaker 2: the eye test is what made me start thinking this,
Speaker 2: because you look at the first four weeks of the season,
Speaker 2: and it seemed like the Dallas defense was just very,
Speaker 2: very Their pass rusher is just so aggressive and they
Speaker 2: were really just destroying quarterbacks, and it didn't seem as
Speaker 2: much like that was happening over the last four games.
Speaker 2: And then I went and looked it up and the
Speaker 2: numbers bear that. Out first four weeks of the season,
Speaker 2: they had a forty nine point three pressure rate.
Speaker 4: They were ranked number one in the league.
Speaker 2: In last four games week five through nine, they were
Speaker 2: ranked fourth in the league with a forty one point
Speaker 2: eight percent pressure rate. So a difference of about roughly
Speaker 2: about what's that like seven and a half percentage point
Speaker 2: you say, if you say so, yeah, something like that, right,
Speaker 2: something like.
Speaker 4: That Texas LSU education that you know, whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sun goes to Texas too, So maybe you're paying
Speaker 3: for it. We're paying for it.
Speaker 2: So my question for you guys is what do you
Speaker 2: think was the biggest factor in that? Do you think
Speaker 2: it's more about the fact that you've played better opponents
Speaker 2: in the second half, So in the first half you
Speaker 2: have the Giants, the Jets, the Cardinals, and the Patriots.
Speaker 2: In the second half you had forty nine Ers, Chargers, Rams,
Speaker 2: and Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: Or do you think it's more about.
Speaker 2: The fact that teams have adapted to what Dallas is doing.
Speaker 2: Maybe Dallas is even adapted a little bit, knowing they
Speaker 2: got to really focus more on the run.
Speaker 4: What do you think is a bigger.
Speaker 2: Factor in that decline in their past rush I mean,
Speaker 2: in their pressure rate.
Speaker 8: I think both things are t through in different amounts.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's as much adaptation as it is
Speaker 8: level of competition. But adaptation is there as well. As
Speaker 8: any NFL season rolls along, the more and more film
Speaker 8: gets out there, and you know, opposing defensive coordinators that
Speaker 8: you're about to face, they're going to, you know, try
Speaker 8: to learn and copycat from what worked against the other teams.
Speaker 8: Even if you actually came out the victor for that
Speaker 8: other team, they're going to be things that worked for
Speaker 8: that other team even if they lost.
Speaker 5: So it goes to adaptation.
Speaker 8: But more than anything, look at the level of offensive
Speaker 8: competition that they've gone up against San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 8: We know Kyle Shanahan has their number until further notice
Speaker 8: like that's hands down. Even with the Los Angeles Charges,
Speaker 8: they were able to get pressures on Justin Herbert. But
Speaker 8: Callen Moore, he's familiar with dan Quinn, the defense, the
Speaker 8: defensive personnel, you know, about getting the ball out where
Speaker 8: the areas were. And of course we talked about after
Speaker 8: that game, Herbert missed some throws down the field that
Speaker 8: could have changed that game. So Los Angeles Rams kind
Speaker 8: of an aberration there, but going in still solid offense.
Speaker 8: We talked about Pookah Cooper, Matthew is mostly healthy going
Speaker 8: that game, they had some some gamers and then of
Speaker 8: course Philadelphia Eagles and that offense. Cowboys did a great
Speaker 8: job of mostly bottling up the passing attack. But if
Speaker 8: you look at the last four forty nine ers, Chargers, Rams, Eagles,
Speaker 8: those offenses are markedly better than Giants, Jets, Cardinals, Patriots.
Speaker 8: I think, really it's two things, but more so that
Speaker 8: than the other thing.
Speaker 6: Same. What did I say to that?
Speaker 7: I completely five, I completely no, completely agree. I mean
Speaker 7: the nature is, yeah, you watch film week after week
Speaker 7: and study your opponent and all that, but I do
Speaker 7: agree for sure also about the opponents just being at
Speaker 7: a higher level than what you initially faced at the
Speaker 7: first four weeks of the season.
Speaker 9: Teams three and three without Digs in the lineup. When
Speaker 9: did Layton Vanderish get hurt? I think all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: you're in a situation now where it's.
Speaker 4: Wait, what week was that he Layton get San Francisco.
Speaker 8: San Francisco is coming up there and he's not going
Speaker 8: to be his windows not going to get started yet.
Speaker 8: He needs a few more weeks.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think even if they're ready to bring
Speaker 4: him back at that point, like I think.
Speaker 3: It didn't sound but it didn't sound too optimistic by
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Trevon got hurt.
Speaker 3: September twenty first, So that was right befo the Arizona game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right before.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're three and three with with him out, without
Speaker 9: him in the lineup, and with him in the lineup,
Speaker 9: they were one of the most dominant.
Speaker 3: Defenses in the league. And then you lose, You lose
Speaker 3: Layton van der Ash.
Speaker 9: Now all of a sudden, people are having to commit
Speaker 9: other jobs or commit to other jobs to make up
Speaker 9: for lost players. I think your defense got affected that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's and I don't I don't know
Speaker 2: if everybody really thinks about how much the loss of
Speaker 2: Trayvon dis because you look at it and you're like, man,
Speaker 2: he got you got Bland playing really well. But it's
Speaker 2: it's a trickle down effect, right, you would have had
Speaker 2: Bland and Digs on the field and now you don't.
Speaker 2: That's that that's a there's a big effect there.
Speaker 8: And with the loss of lv then you know, we're
Speaker 8: talking about what's Michael's splits as far as d E
Speaker 8: versus linebacker, as far as fully committing him to d
Speaker 8: as you were pre lv E lost and now lost
Speaker 8: and now you have to kind of move him around
Speaker 8: to kind of selve that wound.
Speaker 3: That's my reason.
Speaker 6: Okay, so there is something else to add to that.
Speaker 5: That was good.
Speaker 6: That was good.
Speaker 3: I'm just an old guy.
Speaker 4: Here's no personnel guy over there.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be like, man, I really wish I had
Speaker 2: this player and this player now.
Speaker 7: But it's amazing, No, it's amazing to see what this
Speaker 7: defense has become over the years.
Speaker 6: Because going back to.
Speaker 3: Sean Lee era couldn't win a game with that.
Speaker 7: You could not like able to come to crumbles if
Speaker 7: he wasn't on the field. So to think that not
Speaker 7: just one, but two of key players in your defense
Speaker 7: are out of the game, out of the field, and
Speaker 7: you're still being able to play at a pretty good
Speaker 7: level to compete and and kind of hold your opposing
Speaker 7: offense or holding for you to do it at least
Speaker 7: some day. I mean, the compete offense hasn't.
Speaker 9: I'll take I'll take my chances playing with Diggs, Bland
Speaker 9: and Gilmore in the secondary, and I think I could
Speaker 9: get past Rush home.
Speaker 3: I think I come for sex. I think I can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I agree, all right. One other one other
Speaker 2: thing I wanted to hit to on that note. Sam Williams,
Speaker 2: he is a guy that has been according to him
Speaker 2: it probably underused, not used enough, hasn't been given enough
Speaker 2: of an opportunity.
Speaker 4: He put out a tweet. He did delete it later,
Speaker 4: but he was just like freexam right.
Speaker 2: But but he did talk about later like he wanted
Speaker 2: some more opportunities.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 2: And and so my question for you and now I
Speaker 2: do it's an interesting question because I think Sam Williams
Speaker 2: to me is a guy that I think has ability.
Speaker 2: I think he's flashed a ton now. He also has
Speaker 2: had some moments where you're like, ooh, Sam, are you
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 6: He's kind of slowly cleaned up his game.
Speaker 2: He has, but but again that's with limited reps. So
Speaker 2: my question is, do you think think they should be
Speaker 2: trying to get him out there more or do you
Speaker 2: think they have to limit him a little bit so
Speaker 2: that they can get.
Speaker 4: The best of him without.
Speaker 2: The stuff that they don't necessarily want.
Speaker 9: I personally feel like that if I see Golston out
Speaker 9: there in that position, I feel like I need to
Speaker 9: see Williams. I'll tell you another one that doesn't get
Speaker 9: enough shine or enough burn for how he plays and
Speaker 9: the number of snaps he gets is Faller. If you
Speaker 9: watch Faler on tape, Faler gets pressure. Faler is a
Speaker 9: factor in how you pass rush. He's a factor in
Speaker 9: the Twist game. I can understand where Sam's coming from, though,
Speaker 9: I really can. You know, look at the other day,
Speaker 9: it's you know, he's almost got a little bit of
Speaker 9: a David Irvin to him. You know, you play him
Speaker 9: twelve plays in the game, and he has three impactful plays,
Speaker 9: So you're wondering, well, if I play him, maybe if
Speaker 9: I play.
Speaker 3: Him double, that would I have six more plays?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 9: So yeah, that's where I kind of feel like. But
Speaker 9: it's a lot about trust. It really is about trust.
Speaker 9: Can we trust you line up on sides? Can we
Speaker 9: trust you not to hit the quarterback?
Speaker 3: Low joy?
Speaker 9: Trust you not to stick your right hand in the
Speaker 9: face of the offensive tackle. You know, that's where it's at,
Speaker 9: you know, when you want to put him on the
Speaker 9: field on third down? Yeah, a great chance you're going
Speaker 9: to get off the field. There's also a chance he's
Speaker 9: going to commit a penalty to keep the drive going.
Speaker 9: But man, what he's a hell of a player, he
Speaker 9: really really is. He just you know, there's times where
Speaker 9: you just you're kind of you're standing at the craps
Speaker 9: table with your dice in hand, you know, and you're
Speaker 9: just rolling them out there and seeing what happens.
Speaker 7: Well, they didn't, they didn't stop you. Oh my god,
Speaker 7: how did I forget his name already?
Speaker 6: The corner? Oh no, the one, the hot issue.
Speaker 3: You don't wait the field, the boss man fat.
Speaker 6: You know, you know Kevin Joseph?
Speaker 5: Do you no longer know the vic.
Speaker 6: I forget I forget. No.
Speaker 7: But my point is, and they kind of were forced
Speaker 7: to because there was like nobody else, what do you mean,
Speaker 7: like on on special teams like he kept getting I mean,
Speaker 7: didn't stop you from you were forced.
Speaker 6: Okay, you were forced.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, we've seen it happen where
Speaker 7: and I think, how can you how can you improve
Speaker 7: more or get better if you don't keep getting chances?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 8: I mean, I'd love to see it like not hiring
Speaker 8: a person because they don't have experience, but hiring them
Speaker 8: would give them the experience kind of thing.
Speaker 5: Start somewhere I labeled preseason.
Speaker 8: I labeled Sam as one one of two guys, Damon
Speaker 8: being the other that would take a massive year or
Speaker 8: two leap. And he's not taking it quite yet, but
Speaker 8: he's flashed and you see most recently against the Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: Eagles, but it's not a fault he's not taking.
Speaker 8: Guess that's why I was going because in the game,
Speaker 8: like the Philadelphia Eagles, he gets off immediately, sack fumble
Speaker 8: didn't fall in the Cowboys favor but Sam and he
Speaker 8: was eating and then after a few reps he kind
Speaker 8: of disappeared because the Cowboys pulled back on him. So
Speaker 8: that more is on the coaching staff saying, hey, both
Speaker 8: of you guys, point how much can we expose you to?
Speaker 5: Added reps in a game.
Speaker 8: That's this close, And that might have been the thought
Speaker 8: process as well, because that was a hard fought, close
Speaker 8: game in that second half, and maybe there was a
Speaker 8: part of McCarthy and dan quinn that said, well, you know,
Speaker 8: is the next play that we put Sam on the field,
Speaker 8: it's either going to be a boom play and he
Speaker 8: gets this sack, or it's going to be a fifteen
Speaker 8: yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty or unsports abenity late hit hands
Speaker 8: of the face, something that really swings momentum in the
Speaker 8: Eagles favor. So, like like Brian said, you're kind of
Speaker 8: rolling the dice. So it does go to trust. The
Speaker 8: more trust he builds, I believe, the more reps he
Speaker 8: will get. But there's also the good problem that the
Speaker 8: Cowboys have of Dante Fowler is still effective, Us Armstrong
Speaker 8: is still effective. He's one of your best run stoppers.
Speaker 8: On top of getting pressure, Tank is still tank. Micah
Speaker 8: having more of a linebacker split than he had in
Speaker 8: the first four games should free up more reps for Sam,
Speaker 8: but again, it all goes to how much can dan
Speaker 8: Quinn trust that Sam is going to continue his upward
Speaker 8: trajectory with the boom and the downward trajectory with the bust.
Speaker 4: All right, that's a wrap.
Speaker 5: We will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We'll jump into the Cowboys offense versus the Giants defense.
Speaker 2: That will be a little more of an interesting, interesting matchup,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: But again, they did lose.
Speaker 2: They did lose one of their best defensive players by
Speaker 2: a trade, so we'll see how that is effected. Then
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that tomorrow. So that for Patrick Walker.
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