1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Right now joining the show. Cowboys Executive vice president Stephen Jones. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: Our headphones are kind of run down. It's a sad. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: It's sad. I think we got here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: So obviously us media folk like to completely overreact. We 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: heard you were on the phone business dealings that you 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: care to share. Well, it's what Jerry, so you can imagine. Okay, 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: let's he said. I told him I got to jump 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: on a radio show that he said they can wait 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: more important than the radio show. I mean, he's not wrong, 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: He's definitely not wrong. Now, speaking of Jerry, and we 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff we want to talk about. 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: People have become enamored with the way he ate his 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: breakfast sandwich on hard knocks, from the salt to taking 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: it out of the rapper and putting it on a 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: proper plate. What did you think about that process? Well, 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: he's come a long ways because he used to eat 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: it right out of the sack and have it kind 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: of dropping on his shirt and it's joys and but uh, 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: I was impressed. I think he did a hell of 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: a job with that sandwich. Has has any of this 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: stuff been like? Have y' all thought about it? You know? 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: I want to play this up just a little bit, 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: or is this all natural stuff for hard night? Well, 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Jerry's a little theatrical so so and he knows he's uh, 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: he's tuned up. Then uh he the actor comes out 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: in and so uh he can be more fun. But no, 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: I a lot of this is uh. I mean when 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: I looked at the show last night, it was uh, 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't see anything that looked uh, you know, 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: overdone or anything like that. I take in all candor. 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean Jerry's Jerry, and Dak's Dak and Zeke Zeke 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: and uh coach Fossil's coach Fossil. I mean that that's 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: how they roll. Let's talk a little bit more about that. 34 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: What did you think about that biological lesson that we 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: got our surgical consultation we got from people? Uh, my 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: girls are always good with t MI and so uh. 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: I probably would have fallen in my category if I 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: was in his meeting. But hey, you never know, what 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: gets these guys laughing gets their attention, and yuh, sometimes 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: you gotta shock him a little bit to get Hey, hey, 41 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: now I'm on point, I'm ready here. We all looked 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: up what the vast deference was last night during that episode, 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: I feel like now we were cure. I don't like 44 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: sharp objects around those areas, but A yeah, not at all. 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: So we wanted to know. We saw Mike McCarthy referencing 46 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: uh the sequel to Austin Powers. Wanted to know, at 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: least around camp, what is your Mojoe moment? Well, that's 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: a that's interesting. I feel like my Mojoe moments are 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: about ever hour on the hour, and uh, I'm blessed, fortunate, 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. That uh uh, my 51 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: life's exciting. Every time I get a call from Jerry, 52 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: from Mike McCarthy, from Will McClay, from my family, it 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: seems like a Mojoe moments going on about ever hour 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: are on now, yeah, And I mean, like you get 55 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: out here at camp, I'm kind of curious what the 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: work is like for you because I know y'all are 57 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure out the team and the coaches are 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: trying to put that all together. What's the what's the 59 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: daily work life here? Because I've seen you walking by 60 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: and waving and taking pictures with people and everything. There's 61 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of talking to people, but 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: what's the work for for Steven Jones behind the scene. Well, 63 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: that's a great time for us just to focus purely 64 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: on the team, purely on the ninety guys we got 65 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: out here, purely on where we're going with the fifty 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: three plus in our case, you know, sixteen practice squad guys. 67 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: We're you know, we're focused on that. And uh, you know, 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I was having some fun with Mike and Will and 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: Jerry that you know, Bill Parcels used to be well 70 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: known for cutting the team after every practice starting day 71 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: one of training camp, and that may be a little overdone, 72 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: but I do think, you know, as we're starting to 73 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: get in now into the second preseason game for us, 74 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: a first for most that you got to start to 75 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: get your hands around who's you know, who's in the mix, 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: who's not in the mix. I will say this, and 77 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: this isn't to be in any way other than it's 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: fact we've got sixty five guys who could make our 79 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: fifty three right now, and that's rare. Usually you're more like, 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, fifty eight guys right you know, are in 81 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: the mix for fifty three. So it's a very competitive camp. Uh, 82 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to you've got to work those 83 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: Uh you know, sometimes a guy like coach Fossil the 84 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: special teams coach doesn't have the whole picture in terms 85 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: of who he's working on special teams, and you know, 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: he needs to understand if he's working some guys in 87 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: some areas that may not be on this team. He 88 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: needs to know, hey, I better start working these young 89 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be ahead of these older guys or 90 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: you know those type of things. So you know, it's 91 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: an interesting time for us, for Will, for coach McCarthy, 92 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: for Jerry, for myself, for our staff. But uh, you 93 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be an interest as team two or 94 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: three weeks as we move forward. Dan Quinn got up 95 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: yesterday and spoke and just hearing him on hard knocks 96 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: and everything too, he sounds very organized like he he 97 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: seems like he knows exactly what he wants to accomplish 98 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: with his defense. Why is this defense going to be 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: different this yew I'd start with him at the top 100 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: of the list, and we've done a lot in the 101 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: offseason to really change the face of this defense, but 102 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: it starts with Dan and uh, you know, of course 103 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: he's organized, he's super Bowl head coach and by all 104 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: practical practical purposes, should have been a Super Bowl champion. 105 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that's a tough one. I'm sure it 106 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: doesn't sit well with him. But I mean, this guy's uh, 107 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, not unlike the rest of our staff as 108 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: a premium, premium coach. And uh, hats off to Mike 109 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: for getting the job done, to find him, to get 110 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: him to buy into what what he's doing, and bring 111 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: him bring him here to Dallas. But you know, I 112 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: get asked the question a lot, why is this defense gonna? 113 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: How can you expect it to make a jump to 114 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: where it's a top half of the league defense, a 115 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: very if not a really good defense. How can that 116 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: happen overnight in one season? I go the same way. 117 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: We went from a very very solid defense to bottom 118 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: of the package, and we did it in one year 119 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: and with pretty much the same personnel. So we've got 120 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,119 Speaker 1: some really good players. I think they really buy into 121 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: Dan and what his system's all about. You can see 122 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: the energy, you can see the communication, you see the 123 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: coaching that's going on here at camp. You can see 124 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: the players buying into it. It's obviously a system that's uh, 125 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, if if you will, somewhat similar to what 126 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: we had before coaching Nolan got here, and that was 127 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: tough on Mike Nolan. I mean to try to think 128 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna change a system in a COVID year where 129 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: you don't have your hands on the guys and come 130 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: in here and change, you know, have some significant changes 131 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: is tough. Order. So I just think that these guys 132 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: are responding well to Dan. You see the communications, you 133 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: see they have confidence and the system he's putting in. Uh, 134 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's I think you've got to be multiple 135 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: this day in time. I think Dan understands that better 136 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: than anybody. You can't just be a four to three. 137 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 1: You can't just be an even front. You gotta be even. 138 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: You gotta be odd. You see what we're doing with 139 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: Micahl moving him around all over the place. You know, 140 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: you gotta keep these great quarterbacks which are really well coached, 141 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 1: their premium, they're top of the line, especially the better 142 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: teams who have great quarterbacks. It's you know, it's hard 143 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: to stop these guys. And uh, but I think Dan's 144 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: the right guy for the job. And then I think, uh, 145 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, Will and you know, leading the pack has 146 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: done a good job. Between free agency and the draft, 147 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: we've really made some big strides in terms of upgrading 148 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: the personnel and really feeling good about what we're gonna 149 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: be on the defensive side of the ball. Obviously, a 150 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: lot of folks fans back home are really excited to 151 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: see Dak doing some stuff yesterday. I'm curious whether it's 152 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: practicing today or whatever. How you think that timeline looks 153 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: for him in terms of practice, in terms of well 154 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: we see him in a preseason game, what are your 155 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: general thoughts on that? Well, in general you see on 156 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: the show, I mean, this guy's so driven, I mean 157 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: you I mean, it's just, uh, that's his nature is 158 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: to overwork. I mean he's like Troy Aikman and Michael 159 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: Irvin rolled up into one guy. His leadership, his tenacity, 160 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: his uh, his skills, his desire to be great, to 161 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: be the best. I mean, you really got to harness 162 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: him in. So, you know, my deal would be, we 163 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: got to be so conservative because if you let him roll, 164 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna he'd be out there playing four quarters right 165 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: against yelling at Garrett Gilbert roll let me roll. So 166 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, we've got to be very conservative with him. 167 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: Obviously you saw him throwing the ball around. He looks great. 168 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: I know some people get a little jiggy, if you will, 169 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: in terms of thinking, well, that's got to be something 170 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: or they'd have him out there. I mean, this is 171 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: a long preseason and uh, we're a week ahead of 172 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: everybody else, and you know, he's taking it all in 173 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: as you see out there, and we're gonna bring him along, 174 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: but we're gonna do it the right way, and we're 175 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: gonna protect him from himself, if you will. Now before 176 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: we let we let you go, Steven, our other co host, 177 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: Mike Bassik is back in his pantry right now, is 178 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: unable to make the trip. Good can you say from COVID? 179 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: My wife got COVID so well. I want to know 180 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: one can you confirm is that the real story or 181 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys organization not let Mike come out to 182 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: the training camp. He is a negative fellow the famous 183 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: line both yes. All right, Stephen, I have a question 184 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: for you based off of your father, Breakfast sandwich or takeito? 185 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: What is he? What would you rather have in the morning? 186 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: And then what do you like inside one of those? 187 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go breakfast sandwich and it's uh 188 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: egg and sausage. Okay, there you go, Mike Bassock, still 189 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: getting the chance to ask the questions that matter. Thank 190 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: you very much, Steve. I appreciate you jumping on the 191 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: show and we love talking with you every Monday right 192 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: here on the Home of the Cowboys. I know you 193 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: know it. One oh five three the fan. Can I 194 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: get a tolo? Oh? Yeah, hell yeah? What's a tot Oh? 195 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: Come on, turn it on, leaving it on, lea hello baby. There, 196 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: there we go.