1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Thursday edition. Clay Travis 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Want to encourage all of you 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: to go subscribe to the podcast. You can search out 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: our names, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton. Go give us five stars. 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: Make sure you don't miss a single moment of the 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: show fifteen hours a week. We know everybody's busy running around. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: You may miss an interview, you may miss a segment 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: that you really want to hear. So go subscribe to 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: the podcast. You can scroll through, grab whatever you like. 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you who are listening all over 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: the country. I was in Houston and at our affiliate 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: last a week. It was amazing, fantastic time there. Buck 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: you Right now, we're up in Milwaukee. We got a 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: big audience in Milwaukee, people supporting the show. We appreciate everybody. 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Wisen very hospitable here. But we got Congressman Jim Jordan. 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: Let's get to him right Jim on the line with 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: us right now. Jim. We gotta make sure we make 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: everybody happy here. We're all over the place, and so 20 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: hopefully you make everybody happy by letting us know. It 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: seems like the Democrats had two roads they could take 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Jim after the ass kicking they got on Tuesday. They 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: could they could go back to moderation and try to 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: be somewhat reasonable, or they could double and triple down 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: on the area insanity. And it seems like they have 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: decided to double and triple down on the insanity the 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: budget they're trying to get done out. I want to 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: get the update from you on the House schedule as 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: it pertains to the infrastructure and the Bernie budget bill. 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: And then also simultaneously we've got the decision now the 31 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: vaccine mandate has officially been announced just two days afterwards. 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: All crazy, right, Yeah, yeah, No, there they're going to 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: take the latter path. They're gonna double triple down, as 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: you said. I mean, there's a reason why though. That 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: is to me is amazing because what was the polling 36 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: like a week ago, seventy one percent of the country, 37 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: a seventy one percent of our fellow citizen think the 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: country is on the wrong track. Yeah. My takeaway from 39 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: that is who is the twenty nine percent think there's 40 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: anything going right? And yet Democrats are going to do 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: just what you said, they're going to continue to pass 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: this crazy thing. Let's hope they don't. And here's the 43 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: good news. Remember there's been four occasions where they speak 44 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: of the House has said that they were going to 45 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: pass they were going to do it again, that the 46 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: big thing was going to happen, and all four times 47 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: they haven't this. So she's over four. Twice he has 48 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: summoned the President of the United States to Capitol Hill 49 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: to close the deal. He's O for two. So let's 50 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: hope this week is over seven. Six times they haven't 51 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: got it done. Let's hope this week is over seven 52 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: and this doesn't happen because it is not good for 53 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: the country in any way whatsoever. Congressman, it's buck, thanks 54 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: for being with us. As always. I want to know 55 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: what it's important that we to some degree understand what's 56 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: in this just in so far as the Democrats now 57 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: seem to be as a party largely pinning their hopes 58 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: on well, this will pass and it will have put 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: aside for a second whether it's good for the country. 60 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: I think you me, Clay, people listening all agree it's 61 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: not gonna be good for the country. It's gonna make 62 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: inflation much worse. But what are the things, what are 63 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: the payoff mechanisms, if you will, that are in this bill. 64 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: If Pelosi could get it through, if Schumer could shoehorn 65 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: this thing through and into law, what would it actually 66 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: give the Democrats that makes them feel like it's a 67 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: turnaround moment? Is it? You know who's getting the payoff? Jim? Yeah, yeah, 68 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone. I mean, certainly it's going to 69 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: reward the government and all that the government employees attend 70 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: to vote Democrats, It's certainly going to reward them, But 71 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't see it helping on the inflation problem. It's 72 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: not certainly going to help on the border problem. It's 73 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: going to actually exacerbate that because this thing does a 74 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: roundabout way of giving amnesty to eight to ten men 75 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: people who came into our country illegally. So it's not 76 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: going to help that problem. It's not going to help 77 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: the crime problem that we've seen. So I don't know 78 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: who it's going to help other than they've They're so 79 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: far down this road, I don't I feel like they 80 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: believe they can't turn back and they got to pass something, 81 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: So that's I think. I think that's sort of in 82 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: and of itself, what's what's pushing this thing forward? But 83 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: it's bad, bad economic policy, bad energy policy. Remember it. 84 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: Last week we had the spectacle of any hearing a 85 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Democrat member of Congress telling the four big oil and 86 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: gas companies in this country, will you pledge? Will you 87 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: promise to decrease production? And I'm like, are you kidding me? 88 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: You're you're asking American companies to decrease production. At the 89 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: same time the President, and I think, is making OPEC 90 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: to increase production. I posed the question to him, I said, 91 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: what do you want eight dollar gas? I mean, this 92 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: is crazy. So nothing's going to benefit the American people, 93 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: in the American family. But I think it just like 94 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: the democratsms sort of like, oh, well, we've finally got 95 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: something done. Let's hope it helps us, but it's not 96 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: going to help the country. Jim. Also, in addition to 97 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: all the other news that's coming down, we've got Russia 98 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: collusion officially going up and smoke in a massive way. 99 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: It's not going to get a lot of attention, but 100 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: you fought against all of this crazy conspiracy talk for years. 101 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: The Durham investigation has now arrested the person who was 102 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: most responsible as a source for the Steel dossier. What 103 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: does this tell us and how vindicated do you, personally, 104 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: who was one of the most ardent defenders of Donald 105 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: Trump for all of this Russia collusion madness feel as 106 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: these indictments are coming down and these arrests are happening. Yeah, 107 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: I already feel that all of us who fought us 108 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: and said this is blowny. I already feel we've all 109 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: been indicated. Certainly one has been most indicated, as President Trump. 110 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: But the idea they've now rest of this individual. They 111 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: interviewed him back in twenty seventeen and he lied to 112 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: the FBI then, So why wad thinking four years to 113 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: arrest this guy? I mean, look at what they did 114 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: to Michael Flynn when the FBI when they interviewed him, 115 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: didn't think he lied to them, but they charged him 116 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: with that nonetheless, So this is how Coomy knew. The 117 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: FBI knew. We got this from the deposition. They knew 118 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: clear back in twenty seventeen when Comey was fired and 119 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: then we deposed him in the Injudiciary Committee. He told 120 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: us that up until the time he was fired, they 121 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: still didn't know if they had anything because they didn't 122 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: and they knew that that Steele Dostier was false frankly 123 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: when they took it to the when they took it 124 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: to the five support to start to hold our investigation. 125 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: So this just confirms all that. And now that they've 126 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: been actually arrest of this guy, coupled with the Zusman indictment, 127 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: I think that is huge news. But it's it confirms 128 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: what we all suspect and what I think we already 129 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: all kind of knew. We're speaking to Congressman Jim Jordan 130 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: of Ohio. Congressman. Vaccine mandate from OSHA is supposed to 131 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: go into effect January fourth. In terms of the enforcement 132 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: right at that stage, anyone who does has more than 133 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: one hundred employees either has to get the weekly testing 134 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: or get the shot or face I believe a fourteen 135 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a an individual employee fine penalty. So I 136 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: just have to know. I mean, you're a member of Congress. 137 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: Doesn't it kind of feel like if OSHA can just 138 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: decide stuff like this, why do we even have a Congress, right? 139 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Why don't just have the unelected fourth branch of government, 140 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: the federal bureaucracy make all the decisions for us. I mean, 141 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: what's your opinion on the constitutionality of this move? Right? Well, 142 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean to your point, because so many of those 143 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: guys who work at OSHA actually put their name on 144 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: the ballot ran for office, right, I mean, this is 145 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: you're so right, Buck, This is this bugs mean prib 146 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: more than anything. When did doctor Fauci ever run for office? 147 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 1: When did General Milly put his name on a ballot 148 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: and go out and talk to we the people and 149 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: run for office and actually get elected to a constitution 150 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: off I mean, this is the part that drives us 151 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: all crazy. So this is it's unbelievable. I would ask 152 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: the questions some of these people. Is having more nurses 153 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: in the hospital for America or bad for America? Is 154 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: having more truck drivers good for our supply team problems 155 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: or bad for our supply team problems? So there's the 156 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: liberty argument, but there's also just a practical common sense argument, 157 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: Like you want to make the supplies. I was in 158 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: California a few weeks ago. I saw those those ships 159 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: lined up in southern California. You want to make that 160 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: problem worse? Do this to trucking companies? How many I 161 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: talked to an employer today in our district. He has 162 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: almost six hundre employees, he said, over half a big 163 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: trucking company. He said, over half his truck drivers don't 164 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: don't have the vaccine. What the heck is he going 165 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: to do? And what does that mean for Ohio and 166 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: for economic activity? This is how stupid this stuff is 167 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: and it's fun constitutional, but this is the Biden administration. 168 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: They just keep they just keep moving ahead with it. Jem, 169 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: how much fun did you have watching the election results 170 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: come in Tuesday? Where were you winning? Beats losing every time? Clay, 171 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: you know that from every single time. Winning is veteran 172 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: losing and uh now, when you lose, you learn from 173 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: and you come back. But I don't think the Democrats 174 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: are going to get a lessons from and I neither. 175 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: They're just gonna as we talked at the start here, 176 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna just keep going. So it was great to 177 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: see that moms and dads win and government loses, because 178 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: that's what this thing came down to me. Hearing that 179 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: that where he told us that the only evidence that 180 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: he used to do the memo was the letter from 181 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: the school board Association to the present nine states, and 182 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: that letter was a bunch of blowney that they had 183 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: to apologize for the very day after we had that hearing. Um, 184 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: I think it says at all. Because you try to 185 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: get between moms and dads and their kids, they're going 186 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: to push back, and they did in a big way. 187 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy said he thought the House Republicans could pick 188 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: up around sixty seats in the mid terms. I don't know. 189 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you saw that number in there there. You 190 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: know that he was set the over under at sixty. 191 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big number. There is some support 192 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: for it. By the way, I'll share this data with 193 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: you that AXEO share just based on the way that 194 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: the line had swung. If Republicans were to outperform the 195 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: Biden Trump margin by ten point eight points in New Jersey, 196 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: they would pick up forty four seats. If they did 197 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: what they did in Virginia at twelve point three points, 198 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: they pick up fifty one seats. How much of a 199 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: red tide do you think we're looking at. I think 200 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: we're moving in that direction in a big way. I 201 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: love what Kevin said when he goes I just want 202 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: to say that any d plus sixteen district. You're now 203 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: in play. We're gonna gonna put We're gonna be putting 204 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: good kids. Yeah, I thought that's that's again sinking with 205 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: the sports and now yet that that's the way coaches 206 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: talk like, we're gonna we're coming after those two. So yeah, 207 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: I think it's moving in a good way for the country, 208 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: a good way for our party, which I think are 209 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: the same thing. So I feel real good about the 210 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: turns out of Americans don't like all this garbage. Yeah, 211 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Congressman to that point, I just want to know what 212 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: you think. What is the template people were talking about? 213 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: Because Clay and I, obviously this show is an all 214 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: fifty states. I mean people listening internationally on podcast too, 215 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: which is fun. All fifties just throwing it out there, 216 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: but all fifty states. We've got people listenings. We're talking 217 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: a lot about Virginia, but we keep saying, no, Virginia 218 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: is the laboratory the experiment was run. Obviously a huge win, 219 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: and congrats to young Ken and win some seers and others, 220 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: But what is the template you see it? I mean, 221 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: Republicans look to you, your guy who knows this game, 222 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: knows how to win. How do they approach this so 223 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: that we get that red tide going forward that Clay's 224 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: talking about red waves. Treat Yeah, it's in some ways 225 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: it's basic as treat people with respect and common sense, 226 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: like they know what what Biden has done is a 227 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: complete disaster. They appreciate people like President Trump who said 228 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: he was going to do certain things and then got 229 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: an office and actually did him. I mean he said 230 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: I always say, you know, he did more of what 231 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: he said he's gonna do the any president I've ever seen. 232 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: He said he's gonna cut taxes, did said he's gonna 233 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: reduce regulations. Did do what you told him you were 234 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: going to do. That's the model that works. And Glen 235 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: Younga said, I'm going to stand up for families. I'm 236 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: gonna make sure your kids get a first class education, 237 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: not this racist hate America stuff. So so treat people 238 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: with respect instead of everything being identity politics, group, woke culture, 239 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: all this bs. Treat people the way they want to 240 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: be treated with respect. That that's what wins and we 241 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: and understand. I think Joe Manchin said today, which is interesting, 242 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion said today, we're a center right country. We're 243 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: not a left wing crazy drew worst center right country. 244 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: We believe in conservative principles and values in the Constitution, 245 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: and frankly, we also like the First Amendment and what 246 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: the left has done to the First Amendment over the 247 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: last year is frightening. So that's that's the other thing 248 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: that is frustrating. And when you talk about those things, 249 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: you can win. By the way, speaking of winning, you're 250 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: gonna be winning on the bookshelf soon, Jim Jordan, do 251 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: what you said you would do fighting for Freedom and 252 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: the Swamp. It will be out in November the twenty third. 253 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: Last little bit for you, how much did you love 254 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: Rob Manford speaking of culture taking it on the chin 255 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: having to give the Atlanta Braves the trophy Congressman after 256 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: he wouldn't allow him to host the All Star Game. Well, 257 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: we saw your tweet when you said that the president 258 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: was going to be there, and then we tweeted out 259 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: about it, of course as soon as the Braves won 260 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: a championship series. So yeah, it was great. I mean, 261 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: sometimes poetic justice is just that it's it's exactly what's needed. 262 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: And I think the country appreciated the Braves and sort 263 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: of there, you know, what were they below five hundred 264 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: dinner in the July, I think or something, Yeah, that's right, 265 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: so they appreciate that. And I don't think back in 266 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: July at the Allstar Game, anyone thought that the World 267 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: Series Championship trope is going to be handed to the 268 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: braves in it and at the end of the year. 269 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: So that was great. It's way the way it works out. 270 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: Its funny how the Good Lord works. Congressman, thanks so much. 271 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: Conson Jim Jordan of how everybody we appreciate it, sir, 272 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: thank you. Thanks. Thanks Here, guys, you know we love 273 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: pets on this program. I mean, just like your family, 274 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: we want the best for our pets. I had Tallulah 275 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: for the last week. I was in charge of her, 276 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: and let me tell you, she's just a delight all 277 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: the time. But one thing that's great is I add 278 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of rough greens into her food. She's 279 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: a little picky about food too. 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Everybody, 303 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. If you missed any 304 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: part of the show, always go back please if you'd 305 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: like and listen to the podcast Broken Down hour by hour, 306 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: available on the iHeart app on the Apple podcast Store, 307 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: and it's a great way to catch up if you 308 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: miss something listing on one of our wonderful affiliates across 309 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: the country. We did have Clay just mentioned a few 310 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: moments ago. I want to come back to it. The 311 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: special Counsel, John Durham. This has been dragging on for 312 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: a long time. Everybody that I know, and I do 313 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: know some former and current federal prosecutors have told me 314 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: this guy Durham is dogged. He is not partisan, but 315 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: he moves methodically. He moves at the pace of the investigation. 316 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: Will not speed anything up or slanding down based upon 317 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: political considerations. Now, that is frustrating for those of us 318 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: who would have liked greater accountability, particularly while Donald Trump 319 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: was still in office. The vindication of the former president 320 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: for the massive Russia collusion lie that I have to 321 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: remind everybody was somewhat effective insofar as they got a 322 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: special counsel. I knew people who worked in that White 323 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: House who were worried about going bankrupt from having to 324 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: hire lawyers. I knew people who were freaked out about 325 00:14:54,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: trying about possibly getting ensnared by the clearly partisan prosecutors 326 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: of the Muller investigation. So it did manage to slow 327 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: down and hamstring that White House in really profound ways, 328 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: which is just outrageous. It was an attempted soft coup 329 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: really of the government trying to get rid of a 330 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: president that they lost an election two so they wanted 331 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: to beat him with a special council. This is what 332 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: Democrats do well. John Durham was appointed and he's now arrested. 333 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Igor dan Chenko Russian born analysts living in the US, 334 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: facing five counts of lying to FBI agents about his 335 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: work on the Steel dossier. Yeah, this is one zero 336 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: zero one. Something that I came across when I was 337 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: at the NYPD in Telens Division that you get a 338 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: lot of people in high profile federal investigations. They get 339 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: jammed up on this one. Up to five years per count. 340 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: There can even be enhancements, but five years is the 341 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: standard that you can get here. And this guy Clay 342 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: basically was the original provider of the lies to Steele 343 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: that were then laundered by Christopher Steele, who was paid 344 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: by the Perkins Co Law firm Klee Law Firm that 345 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Hillary's campaign had hired to do this OPO research and 346 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: pretend like it was real. This is the guy the 347 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: beginning of it. He's a liar and a fabricator and 348 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: is now facing prison time by Durham in general. The 349 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: frustrating thing I think that's going to drive everybody crazy 350 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: here is this story's going to get buried, the whole 351 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: Durham investigation, everything that he brings charges and less potentially 352 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden ends up a part of the investigation. Unless 353 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: that ends up happening, it's all going to get buried, 354 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna totally end up with this huge percentage 355 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: of the country that but still believes even now in 356 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: the Russia collusion lie. They're never going to become aware 357 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: of what these stories actually are because many in the 358 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: media are just going to ignore it and the fact 359 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: that the entire Still dossier was a manufactured wise I mean, Buck, 360 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: The most frustrating thing about this to me is every 361 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 1: one should understand, even at its inception, the idea that 362 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: the limited amount for instance, of Facebook ads that Russia 363 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: was buying, whether it agreed that there shouldn't be foreign 364 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: companies investing in any kind of way in our campaigns. 365 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: But we're talking about a pen prick of the money 366 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: that was actually spent, the idea that this swung the 367 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: election in any way. It is gratifying, I think, And 368 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: we just talked about this with Jim Jordan. For those 369 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: of us who spent a lot of time arguing that 370 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: the Russia collusion mess was all that a the lie, 371 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: to see someone charged for the lies. But what's more frustrating, 372 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: I think, buck is it just going to get buried 373 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: out there with everything else. I think the media doesn't 374 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: even care that they lied. I think they think that 375 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: they were serving their audience by slandering the former president. 376 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: Mostly that was the plan. We'll come back to this also, 377 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: the Written House trial. I want to talk to Clay 378 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: about it. Look, there are a lot of investments you 379 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: can make out there, stock market and iray, more and 380 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: more of us than we're making investment in gold now 381 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: because we see it as a form of protection. We 382 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: want to protect the value of our savings account, the 383 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: value over IRA account. Gold does that because it holds 384 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: value particularly and you're an inflation market things we're seeing 385 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: right now. I rely on my friends at the Oxford 386 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: Gold Group. I bought gold from them. They had it 387 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: delivered right to my home. 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The Woke Left is on 398 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: the March push back. With EIB twenty four seven, you 399 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: get full twenty four seven access to the Clay Travis 400 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton show, plus a massive Rush lavas, show archives. 401 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: It's a conservative and flapedia at your fingertips. Become an 402 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: EIB twenty four seven VIP today at clayon Buck dot com. 403 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: Inspired by Rush, Welcome back in. I'm Clay Travis, He's 404 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton and Buck is in Milwaukee right now and 405 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: not far away from Kenosha, Wisconsin, where the Kyle Rittenhouse 406 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 1: trial has begun. Surrounding that, the Kenosha, Wisconsin riots, and 407 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of reading on this buck 408 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: because I like to know all the backstory as the 409 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: trial takes place. So for people out there who may 410 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: not have been aggressively following this story, the Kenosha riots 411 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: were in the wake of the Jacob Blake incident. And 412 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: for those of you who may have forgotten, Jacob Blake 413 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: was shot, he was armed with a knife. There were 414 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: no charges that were brought against the officers who shot him, 415 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: and also he was later subsequently charged I believe or 416 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: had been charged with sexual assault before that, and he 417 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: was armed and there were no charges brought against the police. 418 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: But when the video came out, it immediately went viral 419 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: and there were monster protests that erupted all over Kenosha, Wisconsin. 420 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: Lots of looting, lots of burning. These were the mostly 421 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: peaceful protests that CNN covered with such a plum during 422 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: the Summer of Riots in twenty twenty. Kyle Rittenhouse was there. 423 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: He went with a gun and he ended up shooting 424 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: and killing I believe two people, Buck, and wounding another person, 425 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: and so he has been charged with a crime. He 426 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: was seventeen years old at the time that he did this, 427 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: and his defense is essentially self defense. He is saying 428 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: that he was attacked, that his life, he felt like 429 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: he was in danger, and that is why he decided 430 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: to fire the weapon that he had. And therefore he 431 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: is not responsible for any of the allegations, any of 432 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: the criminal charge is that have been brought against him 433 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: because his defense is that he was acting in self defense. 434 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: Now you're just forty miles away from this trial, Buck, 435 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: and this is me, having done criminal law in the past. 436 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: I try not to get involved in all of the 437 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: external noise, and certainly there is a great deal of 438 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: external noise here, and just look at the facts in 439 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: the case, and ultimately this is going to come down 440 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: to does the jury believe or not believe that Kyle 441 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse was in danger and that he had a reason 442 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: to be exercising self defense. So he has a number 443 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: of charges. He's facing first degree recklessly endangering safety, use 444 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: of a weapon punishable lie up to twelve and a 445 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: half years, first degree reckless homicide, use of a dangerous weapon. 446 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's facing decades in prison for this, depending 447 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: on how the jury finds. A few things to note 448 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: on all this. One is that there's video, and a 449 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: lot of us have seen the video of the second incident. 450 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: There's actually additional footage that now has come forward from 451 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: the federal government side because they had some surveillance going on, 452 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: because this was a riot zone. Because BLM rioted, Now, 453 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: that doesn't change the facts of the case one way 454 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: or the other. It does set the scene though, for 455 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: what's going on. BLM rioted in Kenosha because they well 456 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: what I mean, what was accomplished by this other than 457 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: a people being attack, stores being burned to the ground, 458 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: people being terrified of their community. No, BLM makes everything 459 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: worse for everyone. That was the actual result of the 460 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: riots and the protests that undermine police. But put that 461 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: aside for a second. The footage that we have, the 462 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: footage that we've seen, certainly in the second instance, play 463 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: to me as somebody who's had training and use of force, 464 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: who's actually had to carry guns for his job. That is, 465 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: it's clear self defense if you can be armed, clear 466 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: if you're an he's very visibly armed as an AAR 467 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: wasn't concealed carry situation. If you're visibly armed and a 468 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: mob can run up to you, hit you with a gateboard, 469 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: kick you in the head, and have a guy who 470 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: actually runs up to you with a pistol in hand 471 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: and you cannot use your rifle, then there's no such 472 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: thing as self defense. Then we've actually neutered. We've taken 473 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: away the ability of an individual to defend oneself in 474 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: a lethal force situation. Not only based on what we've 475 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: seen and the testimony so far, what I say that 476 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse should be found not guilty. I think that 477 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: a more fair, less politicized prosecutor's office would have said, 478 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: this is not a case we should bring, with the 479 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: possible exception of what was this failure to comply with 480 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: an emergency order from state or local government which is 481 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: punishable by a two hundred dollars fine. Yes, that he violated. 482 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: He violated that, Okay, the two hundred dollars fine, he 483 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: should have to pay it decades in prison for defending himself. Clay, 484 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: It's very hard for me not to look at this 485 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: and say this is part of a plague that is 486 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: going on across the country of politicized prosecution people, given 487 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: the fearsome powers of the prosecutor's office, is using that 488 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: as a weapon for political purposes. They want to make 489 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: an example of this guy because no one's allowed to 490 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: stand against the rioting BLM mob, Clay, no one's allowed 491 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: to stand athwart this and say I will defend myself 492 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: with lethal force if necessary if you attack me. This 493 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: is wrong. I think there's a lot of politics behind this. 494 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: I think there's politics, and I think what's going to 495 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: ultimately come down to is the jury is going to 496 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: have to reconcile. And I'm talking about this not as 497 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: an advocate of any particular side, just looking at it 498 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: from the criminal court perspective. The jury is going to 499 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: have to reconcile self defense. Within the context of this 500 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: is a kid who decided to arm himself with a 501 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: rifle and go out into the streets when riots were 502 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: going on. And I think there's a lot of people 503 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: out there listening to us right now who would say, Hey, 504 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: if this were my seventeen year old kid, I would 505 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: be like, heck, no, You're not going to be out 506 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: in the streets at all. This is, by the way, 507 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Black Asian hispanic. I wouldn't want my teenagers out anywhere 508 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: near any of this incident, much less out armed, because 509 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: of the danger that might ensue. So the jury is 510 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: going to have to analyze because what they're going to 511 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: try to sell. On the other side, the prosecutor is 512 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: this idea that he went out with a gun intending 513 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: to find someone to shoot, right. That is what they 514 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: are going to sell. That is what they're trying to 515 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: The prosecutors are trying to trying to convince people of that. Clay. 516 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: I think the video evidence, the video evidence makes that 517 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: an incredibly hard certainly in the second instance. Now there's 518 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: not clear video evidence of the first instance. But in 519 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: the same way I should say, there's a lot of 520 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: different evidence being brought to bear. But he was chased. 521 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: I mean, if you chase if I, if I have 522 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: a visible side arm, AAR doesn't matter, and someone chases 523 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: me and wants to do violence to me, I'm not 524 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: going to wait to see if they can knock me unconscious, 525 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: take my weapon and use it against me, and that's 526 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: my last day on earth. Someone knows I have a 527 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: gun and they want to do violence against me, I'm 528 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: going to defend myself, and I would even say this 529 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: goes yes, this is a basic right in our laws 530 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: in this country. This goes back to English common law. 531 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: This goes back to Biblical law. Someone's coming at you, 532 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: you have to you have a basic human right to 533 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: be able to defend yourself. And I don't. I don't 534 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: see how you know to your point, Clay about going 535 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: out there, that's a whole other discussion, and it's it's 536 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: a valid one too, especially as you see some of 537 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: what happens when people try to be good Samaritans. You know, 538 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: there was a good there was a jury is going 539 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: to have that in their mind. I'm just trying to 540 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: think about it from the jury perspective, who is being 541 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: pitched two different sides of a story and has to 542 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: make a determination about what they believe. You know, there 543 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: was a shooting and it's actually Andy No put this 544 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: one out. And I remind everybody of this. It was 545 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: back on August twentieth, and they police have released a 546 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: video because they're looking for an individual back on August 547 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: twentieth in Portland where they've had a they've had a 548 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: thousand shootings in Portland. Clay, and this comes after the 549 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: GLM movements, right, so we know what's happened to this 550 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: country as a result, and Shaw was one of the 551 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: casualties of that. But you had somebody who intervened. A 552 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: thirty year old guy intervened. Two teenage girls were beating 553 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: each other up. The police have just released this video. 554 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: A guy interviewed to separate them, and one of the 555 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: male friends of these two teenage girls goes to his car, 556 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: gets a side arm, shoots dead the Good Samaritan right 557 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: then and there. So this is the environment that we're 558 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: operating in now in this country. I mean, I know 559 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: a lot of conservatives. You know, it's one thing you're 560 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: saying to defend You're can defend your own family, of course, 561 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: that sacrosanct. You're always going to do that. You're gonna 562 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: get involved in someone else's situation, You're going to step in. 563 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: I know that's the right instinct. I know that's the 564 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: honorable thing. But in the situations in which people are 565 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: finding themselves now, not only do you have to worry 566 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: about your own safety, Clay, you have to worry And 567 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: this is what Kyle Rittenhouse is seeing. I believe about 568 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: the state deciding that you are the problem. You who 569 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: step in to defend the week the defenseless. You are 570 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: the problem. They want to make an example of you 571 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: for reasons of politics. I'm worried. I don't know how this. 572 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 1: You know, you never know how a jury is going 573 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: to go. That's right, and the written house situation is 574 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: troubling to say the least. And not only that, the jury, 575 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: whether they acknowledge it or not, also maybe think in 576 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: the back of their mind, if we don't convict this guy, 577 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: there may be riots. I mean that certainly is a 578 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: ever present thought. I believe in any juror's mind, almost 579 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: like if you don't like Joe Biden, there might be 580 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: riots too. It's sort of similar thinking, no doubt. 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We want to take more calls eight hundred 619 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: two two two eight h two Sean line two in Milwaukee. Hey, 620 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: Clay and Box. Thank you guys for everything you do, 621 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: stay on top of it, do a great job. Thanks 622 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate it. What I want to talk 623 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: about was timeson Jordan is one of the things he 624 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: left down. I really appreciate. I'm a conservative, but I 625 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: really appreciate his work. But one of the things that 626 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: worries me is that I feel like the Republicans are 627 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: playing into democrats plans by not addressing in the same 628 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: way that the Democrats did. These orders that are given 629 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: out that are quite likely unconstitutional. What happens is the 630 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: orders issued, everyone has to follow it until it's been 631 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: disproven or stayed in court. And the Democrats are banking 632 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: on the fact that Republicans aren't going to seek an 633 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: injunction from a judge to stall it like the Democrats 634 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: did with Trump. Well, that's what I meant about the 635 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: universal injunction. Sorry click, No, I was just gonna says. 636 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: It's a good point. The challenge is, I think there 637 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: are lots of attempts to get injunctions and hold these 638 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: things in abeyance. The argument would be, and I'm laying 639 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: it out there, that until January fourth gets here, there 640 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: is an argument that until it's implemented, you can't necessarily 641 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: challenge him right now. It's an argument that the standing 642 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: doesn't exist because the rule doesn't go in fourth till 643 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: January fourth. Now, the contradiction to that argument, as you 644 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: just laid out, is many people are obligated to follow 645 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: this rule in advance of January fourth, because come January fourth, 646 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: when it's implemented, their employers are already going to be 647 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: forced to have that policy in place, So it is 648 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean again, this is a legal hypothetical the likes 649 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: of which we have never seen. Because you have employee mandates, 650 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: you have employees who don't want to comply, you have 651 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: states not allowing the federal government, according to their own 652 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: state law to sort of come in and parachute and 653 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: take over this entire issue. This is a complex legal 654 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: proceeding that is difficult to foresee. And frankly, this goes 655 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: to what Biden did. The reason why I use the 656 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: eviction moratorium, and the callers right that the Democrats have 657 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: basically done this before. The reason why I use the 658 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: eviction moratorium as evidence is because Biden said this is 659 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: probably unconstitutional, but I'm going to do it anyway because 660 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: it'll give a bridge of four six weeks or whatever 661 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: it is until the courts strike it down. I think 662 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: part of it. And thank you so much, Sewan A 663 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: various stute, a various stute comment, and thanks for calling 664 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: it from a Milwaukee area where I am, you know, Clay. 665 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: Part of the issue that will be that at least 666 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: for the Osha rule. Again, I think it's unconstitutional. I 667 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: want states to fight this. I wantever like this, right, 668 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: they're going to say, though, I mean when you're talking 669 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: about the CDC eviction moratorium, I mean that's so far 670 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: outside the scope of even what the CDC really does. 671 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: You know that that was there wasn't even so much 672 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: a federal power issue as it was. Well, the CDC 673 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have this power like that's not constitution right, I 674 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: mean the Department of Education can order an invasion of 675 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: North Korea, right, I mean there's some at some level. 676 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: So with this issue with OSHA, it's going to be okay, Well, 677 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 1: the occupational you know, safety hazard stuff, that's what OSHA 678 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: deals with. What does that mean they can go this 679 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: far and do this at the federal level. So it's 680 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: it's a similar issue. But I mean I think they 681 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: really they they lost on the eviction moratorium because it 682 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: just didn't pass the laugh test, right, that was absurd 683 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: Beyond words, there's no doubt. But it is an interesting question, 684 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: and this is always a big battle is where does 685 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: administrative law jurisdiction begin an end? And effectively that's the 686 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: big picture question for the Ocean mandate. And then you 687 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: toss in as well, by the way you talk about 688 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: legal proceedings, there can be a situation where a judge 689 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: in Texas says, hey, this can't be enforced, and a 690 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: judge in North Carolina says, hey, this can be enforced. 691 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: Which is why ultimately this has to reside at the 692 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: Supreme Court doorstep. I mean, remember, we should all take 693 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: a moment, folks and think back to the universal injunctions. 694 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: You know, they would they would have some judge in 695 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: Hawaii or a judge from the Ninth Circuit or you know, 696 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: same thing, who would come out and say, oh, no, 697 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: the federal government under Trump, of course can't do that 698 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: thing because I say so, or because of the Administrative 699 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: Procedures Act. They would find some way, and it was 700 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: the hashtag resistance judiciary at work. They actually used the 701 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: powers they had as judges, as activists to slow down 702 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: the Trump administration. Will we come back on the other 703 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: side of this and actually see I think, what is 704 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: valid constitutional objection to this make its way through the courts. 705 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: We'll see. But just one thing. I'm not near right now, 706 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: but I usually am. You see already the photos we 707 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: talked about it. De Blasio is the headline of Daily Mills. 708 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: De Blasio is letting New York City rot as garbage 709 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: is piling up all over the place because you have 710 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: almost fifteen hundred sanitation workers on leave for failing to 711 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: get vaccinated or refusing to get vaccinated. And yeah, when 712 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: cities get dangerous and smelly, I don't know, this is 713 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: going to put some pressure. We may see an accommodation, 714 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: an accommodation from New York City. Yeah, and I'll give 715 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: you an example. By the way, markets oftentimes have an influence. 716 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: In Dallas, we had Mark Cuban Dallas Mavericks do away 717 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: with the vaccine mandate because people weren't showing up away 718 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: he's not going to say up at iowall a little 719 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: victory dance for the Clayman. And another one here in 720 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: my home city of Nashville, the Nashville Predators, the hockey 721 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: team had been requiring vaccine or negative tests. They just 722 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: did away with it. So some of these blue cities, 723 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: even within Red states, are starting to back up on 724 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: their implementation of these policies. Is that going to spread 725 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: as the difficulty grows? I think it's a really fascinating question, 726 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: and it's one will continue to explore. Up next Buck, 727 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: we have Tommy Tubberville from the Great state of Alabama. 728 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: You can talk to him about having gone to your 729 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: first ever college football game. I can't wait to say 730 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: roll tide to a senator from that state, which I'll 731 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: be careful he's an Auburn guy. This reminds me of 732 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: like tribal allegiances in the Middle East, Like you never 733 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: know who you're going to upset depending on who you're 734 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: sitting down with and talking to. You know, you're like, 735 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: what's going on here? All right? Roll tide, slash, go out, 736 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: go Auburn whatever they say, there you go. We'll get 737 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,479 Speaker 1: into that all that study actual politics coming up. You're 738 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: listening to, Clay Travis said Buck Sexton fund the EIB 739 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: Network