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Speaker 2: We talked about San Francisco last week, so I had to,

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Speaker 2: you know, getting character this week.

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Speaker 1: know you know me and Jullian's you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: get into it. Also, my clothing line dropped in two

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Speaker 1: the show, we appreciate you're gonna have it. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: it having on so being full uniform. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: They had a comment that was passed about one of

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Speaker 1: it was Raheem Mozart.

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Speaker 2: He said, uh, he said, I need somebody tough that's

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Speaker 2: when you don't have that, the impact can definitely be

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Speaker 2: Colin Colin called Herd Show, how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like you know that was that was

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Speaker 2: the downfall of the Miami Dolphins. First first, we'll get

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Speaker 2: into that. Do you feel like that was the downfall

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Speaker 1: Believe so the culture, I think it worked this first

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Speaker 1: I think it was having fun. But you know, once

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Speaker 2: About but my question would be, like, you know, isn't

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Speaker 2: why would I you know, change how I'm handling these relationships?

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Speaker 2: If anything, it grows for the better. So it's it's

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Speaker 2: You know, these guys wanted one thing, it was getting

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Speaker 2: Right, So you saying you it doesn't matter what type

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Speaker 2: me they didn't have enough leaders in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: If we're depending on the coach to lay the hammer

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Speaker 2: The coach is really there to create an environment for

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Speaker 1: Yell, right, grown man, grown men.

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Speaker 2: If you look at if you honestly, bro if you

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that.

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Speaker 2: During our time, well my time at LSU, I played

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Speaker 1: He was a great presence. Right. He a great teacher

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Speaker 2: Frank also wanted you to go out there and play free,

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Speaker 2: So I think there's something to be said why by

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Speaker 2: what I mean, it's probably not a good environment.

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Speaker 2: So you know, playing at LSU, I played with guys

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Speaker 2: you know called it how they saw it, right, Tyron Matthew,

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's, you know, hopefully something that

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Speaker 2: that they're bringing in this new culture that they're developing,

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Speaker 2: because it plays a lot into any organization, not just football.

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Speaker 2: You know, family, family, life, life, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like as a leader, man, you have to kind of

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Speaker 2: create a better work environment. Man.

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Speaker 1: Like we all have the one goal here, right, it's

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, Man, I don't know. Outside of that, man,

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Speaker 2: who who else have you played for?

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Speaker 1: That? You know, you could say, what about Tod Bowles?

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Speaker 1: You played for? Did you play for to Bowles? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But you know, again, like I think, you know, there

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Speaker 2: But I remember having a coach at LSU, Billy Goanzalees, right,

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Speaker 2: what happened at the offense. But at the same time, man,

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00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,439
Speaker 2: I don't need nobody to tell me to show up

430
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,440
Speaker 2: and be great, man, Like you gotta have that shit

431
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 2: in you list.

432
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 1: You got to have that ship. You gotta have that

433
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,239
Speaker 1: ship in you bro shit home bred man. Man. But

434
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 1: while we're on this coaches, man, while we're on this line.

435
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 2: Of coaches, outside of the Bruce Arians, Todd Bowles, any

436
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 2: other coach out there that you would have wanted to

437
00:19:59,160 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 2: play for.

438
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know his name, and I know

439
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 1: he coached you. The coach at the Browns, Kevin Stefanski,

440
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 1: at Hugh Jackson, No, no, no, I love coach you man.

441
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 2: Coach man, I wish we would have longer. Honestly, I

442
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 2: wish we'd have had a longer period of time together. Brokeach,

443
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 2: you is the coolest dude ever still discipline.

444
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 1: And you know football, bro, Bro. He knew things about

445
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 1: every position, Bro. And you know picking on the course.

446
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 1: What's his name again, Kevin Steffenski. That shit bothers me, right,

447
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, even shit he had gone on with your door.

448
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, if you have a guy

449
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: there that could be your franchise maker, that can change

450
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: the organization, you know. And I'm not sure what was

451
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,360
Speaker 1: going on in his brain or why he didn't want

452
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: to play him or whatever, whatever the case, it doesn't matter.

453
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 1: But I have a problem with coaches like that, Like

454
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 1: to me, he has his resume is not good to

455
00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: me at all. It's being real, Yeah, and he gets

456
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 1: another shot at coaching where you know, it was gods

457
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: like me and you who have great ass resumes, right

458
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 1: and didn't get another shot or not playing at all.

459
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: So when I see ship like that, man, that shit

460
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: has had me hot. Yeah. So he'd definitely be one

461
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: of one of those coaches I would not ever want

462
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: to play for ever ever. Man, I would say, I

463
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 1: would say you know what I would say, like.

464
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 2: Being being being in Cleveland and playing there, you know,

465
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,959
Speaker 2: he was he was cool to be around. It just

466
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: it's like you say, it's like it just almost felt like,

467
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: you know, as much as he knew what he was doing, right,

468
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 2: he really maybe didn't, right. And I think that like sometimes,

469
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 2: you know, some of these coaches are most of these

470
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: coaches get put in a position too soon, right, you know,

471
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 2: they have success as a position coach, right, and then

472
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: they get thrown into this head coaching role where you know,

473
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: you expect most of these coaches that's younger to be

474
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: more personable, right, more relatable with their players, and in

475
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: most cases, it just.

476
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't work out that way, right.

477
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: And I know, like my time in Cleveland, especially in

478
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: the beginning, man it was great, Like he didn't win

479
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: the Coach of the Year, you know, we ended up

480
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: going to the playoffs, and then for some reason then

481
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: after bro it just kind of felt like, you know,

482
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: the spark between the connection between the players and the

483
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: coaches just kind of started to dim out.

484
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Speaker 1: Right.

485
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if he would be

486
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: a great coach in the league, right, but I do

487
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: think he knows a lot about offense, right, I think

488
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 2: you know, he he I don't know how much he

489
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: is involved into the analytical side of things, but I

490
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: know in Cleveland that was a huge part. So you know,

491
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: I think that played a pardon in some of the

492
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Speaker 2: decisions that he might have been forced to make, even

493
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Speaker 2: with the Shadora Sanders thing, right, either forced to make

494
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 2: are persuaded.

495
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: To make you know what I mean. But we'll see.

496
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: Right, last year in Cleveland, you know, he was he's

497
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: a coach of the year. I think he's two time

498
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: coach of the year if I'm not mistaken. So you know,

499
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: Atlanta will be another good indicator about you know, where

500
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: his you know, coaching career is headed. You know, because

501
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 2: that team as well as a team that's struggling, need

502
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: to find somebody to fill that head coaching position and

503
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: that quarterback position.

504
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Speaker 1: To speaking of quarterback position, right, I know we wasn't

505
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: last episode, wasn't big on tour, you know, you know,

506
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: finding another job. But it happens Atlanta Falcons picked them up. Yep.

507
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: Uh how you think they work out from and you know,

508
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: and I think it's very be very strange. You know,

509
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: two left hand quarterbacks competing. You know, uh, you know

510
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: you have Michael Pennix, you know you have him. My

511
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: personal thoughts, I'm not sure you know this in my

512
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: mind is still young too young quarterbacks competing? Man. Listen,

513
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it, Matt Ryan bro what's up? Man? Man?

514
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Listen?

515
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: If you if you look at the history of the NFL,

516
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: the last time a left handed quarterback won anything a

517
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 2: super Bowl, let's say a super Bowl, let's say a

518
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, he was thrown to this guy that wearing

519
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 2: this jersey. And we know how long ago that was right, definitely.

520
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: And then outside of that, you got Mike Vick that

521
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: played in Atlanta. Do any of these guys give you.

522
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Speaker 1: A spec sp of Mike Vick a left hander? I'm

523
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Speaker 1: asking you, nah, right, So what are we doing?

524
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: Not only that, when you bringing a left handed quarterback

525
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: for y'all too, don't know, your whole offense changes a

526
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: step of Instead of paying your left tackle, now you

527
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: got to pay the right tackle.

528
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: The balls come to the balls coming out crazy, it's different.

529
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: You know, might drop that motherfucker. Man, Hey, listen, you

530
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: getting paid now you're gonna be on the bitch. It's

531
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Speaker 1: different though. Yeah, it's different, it's different.

532
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like there's no one

533
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: that is winning championships that are billionaire their their football

534
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: team around left handed quarterbacks. And again, prove me wrong, definitely,

535
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's happening for at least another decade.

536
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Speaker 1: Damn, that's strong. Huh, that's wrong. Man.

537
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: Parents, if you're raising a left handed quarterback, man, so

538
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: you say to switch on if you have time?

539
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: What's the word? That's what is the word?

540
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, man, listen. I just I just I just

541
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 2: feel like again, if you look at the history of

542
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: NFL football, typically the amount of success that are offense

543
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: or team has it's not based on it's solely based

544
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: on the quarterback. And most of those quarterbacks are right handed.

545
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 2: Are right handed, bro Building a team around a left

546
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Speaker 2: handed quarterback.

547
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Speaker 1: Is a mind field. So we're going with this. Do

548
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: you think Atlanta has a chance to win the division?

549
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: I do not.

550
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: I don't think they have a chance of winning the

551
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: division because all three other quarterbacks in the division is

552
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Speaker 2: right handed.

553
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: You're left handed?

554
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about but yeah, I play receiver. I

555
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: threw the ball. Do I threw the ball a few times.

556
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: I don't know if I got an incomplete pass and not.

557
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Speaker 1: Are you four for four? I'm like six for six?

558
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: Ye yeah.

559
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: I think mew, Me and su are like the only

560
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: two non quarterback positions that has thrown the ball in

561
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: the games, like it has like a higher passing rate.

562
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: Because I was trying to see it. If you're trying

563
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: to be biased, you know, are you downing yourself because

564
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: you're all left handed? No?

565
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: But I look, I picked the right position obviously, you

566
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I just feel like being a

567
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: left handed quarterback, I just don't see it being the

568
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: thing that makes gets your team over the hump. And

569
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: you know in that division, like were you asking you

570
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: got Bryce Young? Who in Carolina where they turned it

571
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: up last year toward the end of the year, they

572
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 2: gave the Rams a fight. You know, obviously they would

573
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: have saw the Seahawks and still lost, right, but they

574
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: gave the Rams a fight.

575
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: I think that game went to overtime.

576
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: You go to Tampa Bay where you know Baker Mayfield

577
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: is there, who's coming into his own right. Love it,

578
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: Love it, boy, I love it. I love it. Saints Tyler,

579
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: you have a young guy. Right, they just brought in

580
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: some backfield help to manage the game. It'll be interesting

581
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: to see, you know. But I still think Carolina Tampa

582
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: Bay walk away with that division easily.

583
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: Yes, oh man, this you at home. Man, pray for

584
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: the leftist. Just pray for the leftists.

585
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: Man, man, it's nothing against it, it's nothing against left

586
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: handed quarterbacks. I just think that the translation if you

587
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: watch the leap that happens, you know, from you know,

588
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: college to NFL, you.

589
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: Don't see it. You don't see it, you know what

590
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean?

591
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: And and again I'm down, we're we're us as fun

592
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: this out. We're down to be proven wrong, like prove

593
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 2: us wrong, please, you know what I mean. But I

594
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: just don't think that, uh, Matt Ryan, Man, come on, dog,

595
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, bro. As an Atlanta Falcon fan, you got

596
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: the A on your het up there as as because

597
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: the flames, but as Atlanta Falcons fan, man, I'm sure

598
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of Atlanta Falcons fans out there.

599
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: That's that's that's highly confused, right, you know. And not

600
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: not only that man you bring in, you got two

601
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: guys at that position that you know, I have tons

602
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 2: of injuries, tons of a long list of injury history.

603
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: Should they bringing a vet to help them? Maybe that's

604
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: the plan. Maybe hopefully we get a Matt Ryan out

605
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: of retirement. Who knows, right, But if that's the case,

606
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: you know, you let you let Kirk Cousins walk out

607
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: the door, right. I understand the captive numbers and this

608
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: and that, right, but you know, I don't know who

609
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: else is out there that they could bring in and

610
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: lost their chance with Coller, right, and you know, I

611
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: just don't feel like it's a situation that's looking too good.

612
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: Maybe they start younger again, but I don't know. I

613
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: don't have any ties to Atlanta. I just know that,

614
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: you know, quarterback at the quarterback position, speaking of Kyler,

615
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: Kyler's name is not right.

616
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: Minnesota love it does? He wins QB one from JJ.

617
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: I definitely think so. I definitely think so. I think

618
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: what we see as for quarterbacks out there, you know,

619
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: you see you see like the situation changes their careers.

620
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: Right, definitely, you know it revamps them. Yeah, one hundred percent.

621
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: Sam Donald is a it's a great, it's a great.

622
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: He's like the proto proto type for that. He's the

623
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: poster child poster boy for that, right. I think the

624
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: biggest thing for me is I would ask you, you know,

625
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: knowing what I know about Minnesota's offense and how they

626
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: like to operate from under center, right, do you feel

627
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: like that is a detriment to to to their team

628
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: now and they may have to make some offensive decisions

629
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: about their strategies based on college you know, height, stature

630
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: and things like that.

631
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: I believe so. I believe he's not. He's not used

632
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: to going on in the center. Everything's not a shotgun,

633
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: you know. He's come from a spread offense. Uh. And

634
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: it's like it depends like what a center you know,

635
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: Paul's what a center as gonna be when he's under

636
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: the Like did we get an official height on him? Yes,

637
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: we need an official height on him, like I think,

638
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: and the timing of the snap and you know what

639
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's gonna be it's gonna be different from

640
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: But I believe he wins that job, you know. Uh.

641
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying JJ is not. He's okay, Right,

642
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: But if you have a quarterback that comes from a

643
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: team where he's he's won those close games, right, He's

644
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: he's had a couple of winning seasons for sure, you know.

645
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: And he has the demeanor, he has the attitude and

646
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: to get those tough yards at the end when he's scrambling,

647
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: he's fast as fucked quick, motherfucker, you know what I'm saying.

648
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: So it's like he has the tangibles. And I believe

649
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: if he can't get Justin Jefferson, our boy back on track,

650
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, because JJ was kind of frustrated last year,

651
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: it should be Yeah, for sure, And that's not all

652
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: on and JJ. That's not on you. You know, they

653
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: got you said, you want to sound right, they got

654
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: rid of him. You know, sometimes in our curves we

655
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: have down years. You know, what it's not on us

656
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: is about you know, the people that's in the building.

657
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: You know, the certain calls they make, certain people they

658
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: bring in. So I think if if K one comes in,

659
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: how I think he's supposed to come in, hm bro

660
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: I give JJ eighteen eighteen twelve touchdowns this year this year? Yeah, man,

661
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: I love it. I think I think it's great for Jets. Man.

662
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. You know, you've seen what Kyler

663
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Murray has done with you know, playing with Larry Fitzgerald.

664
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: He played with a J Green. He played with uh

665
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: A d hok. Right.

666
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: You know so I think I think that there's some

667
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: some some some parallels there right to to Jets and

668
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: and making plays as being the guy for Minnesota. I

669
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: do also expect a good year from from the Addison kid.

670
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, right.

671
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: I do think that that's going to be a part

672
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: that they now can show that one A one B

673
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: type of type of tandem.

674
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: That they are right, that duo that they could be.

675
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see the full, full, full picture

676
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: of that coming up with Kyler back there. But I

677
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: will ask you, based on when we're talking about I

678
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: think their coaches okay, right, yeah, based on that, who

679
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: is a guy who likes to run a football, who

680
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: likes to be you know, kind of a balanced type

681
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: of offense. Do you think they go to more of

682
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: a pass first type of offense or they kind of

683
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: keep it the same and figure out how to adjust

684
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: for you know, under center stuff. And I think it's

685
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: going to be a definitely an adjustment, right they changed

686
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: the whole offense. They might have to, right, you see

687
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: last year it ain't work quite as well, right, you

688
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: have to know how to switch it up you know,

689
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: different calls, you know, to get guys open, and now

690
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: it's like you have the favorite one. Right, but but

691
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: but but do you feel like I want to ask

692
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: you this question, do you feel like the offense that

693
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: they run would be a better opportunity for Coller because

694
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: he don't have football as much?

695
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: Right?

696
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: Or is it one of those things where we played

697
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: to collor strength? Like, how do you feel like their

698
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: approach is from Kevin O'Connell and the Minnesota Vikings moving

699
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: forward into the into the twenty twenty sixth season, right?

700
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it still.

701
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: Balanced play action pass, still under center and the gun

702
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: mixing it up? Or is it more like how we

703
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: see Caleb Williams and you know Jordan Love in that division.

704
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: You know Jared Golf, well, he's more of the center,

705
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: more balanced, right, But you know these other two guys,

706
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: they're pretty much in the gun, you know, eighty seventy

707
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 2: sixty percent of the time.

708
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: And it goes back to attributes, right, he's four to

709
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: one map. Hey listen, listen, bro, Hey, hey k one, Bro.

710
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: We really need to get a height a high comp

711
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: for you, bro, because we saw it was you was

712
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: listed as five to ten bro, Come on, do you

713
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: not know five teens at all?

714
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you need.

715
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: To how let us man, Let us know, man, let

716
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: us know what the official official height is.

717
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: Man. We're gonna hopefully the Vikers get it right in

718
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: the in the in the playoff bio books for sure

719
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: the season. It's going back on your question, Man's that's

720
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: a that's a good question, because we've seen a guy,

721
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen Sam back there ball it, dolling it.

722
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: You know, for for a good minute the first half

723
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: of football in the NFL, you thought they would win

724
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: it all when he was there. Unfortunately, when they got

725
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, they lost. But you have to go

726
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: I believe you have to go on your quarterbacks weaknesses, right.

727
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: I know when it was in Tampa, like we had

728
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: too many players, right, so Brady couldn't Brady didn't like

729
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: half of them, so he took half of them out right, right,

730
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: So he worked with what made him comfortable with he

731
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: was good with throwing with, and what he can't remember.

732
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: But do you feel like k One is in the

733
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 2: same position to make as Brady, Yeah, to make it yeah,

734
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: to make.

735
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: It hell yeah. So but if he's going to be

736
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: your QB one. You have to adjust to his game

737
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: what he's good at and what he's not good at.

738
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree. I do

739
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: agree with that. I think, I think, you know, based on.

740
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: His measurables, and I'm not gonna only highlight his measurables

741
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: because he does a lot of great things. Well, he

742
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: has a lot of you know, unique attributes that make

743
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: him a special player, right, and we all want to

744
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: see him get back to that point of where we

745
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: you know, seen him over the years, right before the injuries.

746
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: But at the same time, right, I just don't understand

747
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: how play action, the play action fake and the glance

748
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: routes that we could throw the jets and to the

749
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: Addison kid and all of those things happen as quickly,

750
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, with him not really being there but his seat,

751
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: and you know from that from that position, right, So

752
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: I think getting him out of the pocket, having them

753
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: more in the gun will allow.

754
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: Him to have that success. And but I'm I'm I'm

755
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: happy he got picked up. I think it's a great situation.

756
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: I thaink it's a great fit. He's handled again number

757
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: one receivers throughout most of his career, So he's going

758
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: to know how to talk to Jets, right, He's going

759
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: to know how to keep Jets come right, He's gonna

760
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: know how to communicate with Jets. That's a huge thing as.

761
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: A receiver, like like as feeling like you're a number

762
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: one receiver on the team or being a number receiver

763
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: on the team, like you want to know like the quarterback,

764
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: and you have to be on the same page, you

765
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like there has to be some

766
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: type of communication there. And I think Color will be

767
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: able to have that line of open, that lineup of

768
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: communication with Jets.

769
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Right.

770
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: Jess could tell him like, hey, look, I like when

771
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: it's one on one, just throw it up. I like

772
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: me right or whatever it is. And I think that

773
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: those are the things that Kylor does well. So I

774
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: think it could be a special marriage. I think it's special.

775
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: So I know we're talking about the Color and JJ

776
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: McCarthy situation. Is Kyler the right guy that can learn

777
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: from Yeah?

778
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: I mean again, listen, listen, Colin's done. I think at

779
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: one time Colin was up for MVP. Yeah, he was

780
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: like this guy is not every day you know, average Joe,

781
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like this he could really play.

782
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: I think through his experiences and the people that he's

783
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: learned from the receivers that he's also played with, right,

784
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: they can give JJ an insight onto how he could

785
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: become a better quarterback, how he could start taking some

786
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: of the pressure off of himself right and put it

787
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: onto the receiver getting the ball in their hands early.

788
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: You know, I don't have to make the play. I'm

789
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: just gonna give it to Jets. I'm just gonna give

790
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: it to Addison. I'm just gonna give it to the

791
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: running back.

792
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: To tight ends.

793
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 2: They got some good tight ends over there as well,

794
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: like getting the ball out of my hand. Like, I

795
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: think that those are things where as a student of

796
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: the game, he should always pay attention to. Right, if

797
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: you're behind anybody or you're playing with anybody, I could

798
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: speak to, you know, playing with a guy like Rashard

799
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: Higgins in Cleveland, Right, and bro, this guy get off

800
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: a press release so easy and effortlessly, and I'm like,

801
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: I got to still get pressed, and I got like

802
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: a little hesitation, you know what I mean. And then

803
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: I started talking to him right and again not to

804
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: say that you know, he wasn't somebody that helped us,

805
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: but he was somebody that played often for our football team, right,

806
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: So you know, you always got to be able to

807
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: as as a pro, you always got to be able

808
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: to learn. Yeah, I mean you always got to be

809
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: able to look at the guy in front of you

810
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 2: and the guy behind you, right and take little things

811
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: from their game that can make your game special.

812
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Right.

813
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: And that's a That's the beauty of sports. That's the

814
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: beauty of like being a student of the game. Like

815
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: you can never go into this game thinking you know

816
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: it all the second you do the many you do,

817
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: you for rude to fucking waken, right, you rude awakening.

818
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: Right.

819
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: So, man, I think that he could definitely learn from him.

820
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: I think that there's room to grow in JJ's career.

821
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: I think he's a great player, right, Collor is only

822
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: there for a year, you know what I mean? This

823
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: is is maybe this is a year for JJ, JJ

824
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: to get healthy, learn a little bit more.

825
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: Like, Bro, you're still a guy. I think JJ is

826
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: still still a guy, you know what I mean?

827
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: And what he will have three more years, two more

828
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: years left on his contract.

829
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: Color only has one man.

830
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: Look, learn as much as you can, Bro, and compete

831
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: your ass off bro, I don't think you should look

832
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: at this like college coming in to you know, take

833
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: your job or b QB. One man, you go and

834
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: approach every day like you're going to be the starter.

835
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: Bro.

836
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: Even when you at practice get their reps, the reps

837
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: that you don't get staff to practice, there's always a receiver,

838
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: a young receiver that man at one little bit extra

839
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: reps that a staff to practice with you and throw

840
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: all of your bang aids, all of the routes that

841
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: you missed in practice.

842
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: Man. One of my favorite quarterbacks was Matt Moore. And

843
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: Matt Moore was a gamer like I'm talking about.

844
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: He just played the game like when he got in

845
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: the game, like everybody got excited, right. And he wasn't

846
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: a guy that you would look at on your team

847
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: or on your roster and be like damn, like he's

848
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: he has it all.

849
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: He has all the gifts, you know what I mean.

850
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: He was a guy that just understood the game and

851
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: understood his players, and he worked hard. The reps that

852
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill or Jay Cutler was getting, he was taking

853
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: those reps after practice.

854
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: He was taking those reps, you know, and it might

855
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: not been with me.

856
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: It might have been with the practice squad receiver right,

857
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: but when we got in the game, we never miss

858
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: a beat. And that's the thing that I think that

859
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: you know all players, you know, no matter what position

860
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Speaker 2: The Max Crosby trade got called off. He is going

899
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: back to the Las Vegas Raiders. I would assume as Max,

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00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,839
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902
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,759
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00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,279
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904
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: Just yeah, for the and congrats to him. You know

905
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: he's been sober I believe six years. Yes, that's big. Yeah,

906
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: that's something you know we should definitely congratulate them on. Yeah, bro,

907
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: congrats bro, Yeah, for sure, on your roller coaster of

908
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: being who you are and becoming a man who's supposed

909
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: to be. And I just think from the point of

910
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: view from Baltimore's kind of unprofessional. Unprofessional. I mean, of course,

911
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: you know he wasn't you know, he's come back off injury.

912
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't going to be one hundred percent right.

913
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: And I kind of wrote him something in DM you

914
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He was just make sure he's good,

915
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, right, you know, he's excited for this

916
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: next chapter of his life. Hopefully he could get something done.

917
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: You know with the Raiders, he's he wants to run

918
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: it back. But other than that, I think it's a

919
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: part of his story. Yeah. You know, I had the opportunity

920
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: to play against him in Jacksonville. He has a mortar man.

921
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't stop, He works his ass off. I love

922
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: everything about the guy, his attitude, what he brings to

923
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: the game. And I believe, you know what's for him,

924
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna be for him. You know, this is this

925
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: is a minor step in this. You know, in his

926
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: book it has to be written.

927
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think going back to Las Vegas is

928
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: like it's like the perfect perfect storm, right, It's like

929
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: the perfect thing for for him. I know when he

930
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 2: left Las Vegas he tweeted something like, you know, I'm sorry,

931
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 2: I'll let you guys down right, Like now he gets

932
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: an opportunity to.

933
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: Go in and and and muster up that that he

934
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: wants to win. Yeah. Yeah, he wants to bring them

935
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: a chat obviously, and it's obviously he loves it there.

936
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: He loves the people. Uh. You know, somewhere when you

937
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: you make home, you know you want to not just football,

938
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: but the community. You want to impact in so many ways,

939
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: and I believe he's the guy to do it. You know,

940
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, some some some guys like that have might

941
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: rough in a couple of feathers, you know, with his

942
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: personality and everything, but he's definitely the guy there to be.

943
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: Talk about a second win, bro like talking about like

944
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: leaving a place thinking you're going to get some some

945
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: fresh air or new experience, right, and then it's like

946
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: a bad dream, low key. It's like you know, and

947
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: then you wake up and then you know you're back

948
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: in your situation. I do think that he helps the team.

949
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 2: And but also I think about the team. Right, they

950
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: were getting two first round draft picks, They're freeing up

951
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: some cap space, they get ready to make some moves there.

952
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: They're draft board is.

953
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: Looking a lot different, you know what I mean, Like

954
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: as an organization, how do you think that? How do

955
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 2: you think they handle you know, the long term effect

956
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: of bringing a guy like Max sin Like do they

957
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: change his contract, change his contract up to be able

958
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: to free up some space? You know, instead of having

959
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: two first round draft picks they have one, you know

960
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, how do you think they approached

961
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: that this year?

962
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: See, I don't know, and uh and I don't. I

963
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: don't think of it as that. I think of you know,

964
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: now you got to think as an organization. You know,

965
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: is he upset about that? Max? Yes, of going back,

966
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: going back? I don't think he is. I mean, but

967
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: you just never know, Like you don't know the in

968
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: house of the organization. You know, the words that was

969
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: going back and forth. You know, you know they can

970
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: say so much on media and not trying to expose

971
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: the hand, but we don't know the depth of everything,

972
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: right something like you know something na no, because I've

973
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: been a part of those talks. Yeah, you know, I

974
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: understand from both sides, right, So you just never know.

975
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: Me personally. I hope it works out for the best

976
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: for Max. Hope he gets the money he deserves. But

977
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: just me looking back, bro, like what if, but just

978
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: what if he would have he would have landed there

979
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. That's been crazy. Baltimore is a They're known

980
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: for the d line, They're known for their defensive period yep, right,

981
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: And I think he would have brought a whole, a

982
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: whole different atmosphere to that defense.

983
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would have definitely took Baltimore to a to

984
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: another level. But I think he still does that at

985
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: his at his at the Raiders. You know, I just

986
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: think that you know, at the quarterback position, head coach

987
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: and turnover that's been that's been going on there.

988
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: It's fush.

989
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: It is very frustrating for a player. You've experienced this

990
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville. Sure, it is frustrating as a player when

991
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 2: you feel like you're the best player on the team,

992
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: you're losing other guys that are bringing you know, value

993
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 2: to the team.

994
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: Your coach is getting fired every other year, and your

995
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: prime years are getting taken away.

996
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 2: Your prime getting taken. Your prime year is getting taken away.

997
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: Then you deal with an injury, right from a mental standpoint,

998
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: like ship like it feels, it feels like you it

999
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: can't get no worse. Right when you finally get an

1000
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: opportunity to maybe land with the team.

1001
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: Maybe of your dreams, right, who.

1002
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: Has a stable quarterback obviously lose their head coach, But

1003
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: that organization has been intact for as long as I

1004
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: can remember, Right, So, you know, you think you're going

1005
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: to a stable position and then you end up right

1006
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: back to where you are. I think it's unfinished business, bro.

1007
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: I think I think he has an opportunity to man to.

1008
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: So he's already stays in my mind stabled as like

1009
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: a Las Vegan Raider, you know, legend, right, But I

1010
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: think he has the opportunity to do something special. You

1011
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: guys got the first they got the first round draft

1012
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: pick this year. We know that you're getting You're getting

1013
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: your quarterback, bro, you know what I mean? You know,

1014
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting to see how they continue to

1015
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: build their team moving forward now that he's back, right,

1016
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: I think wouldn't you think that as a as a

1017
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: as a coach, you know, having a guy like Mats

1018
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: Crosby back, you know, our teams just got better again.

1019
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I think he's the vocal

1020
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: point of the defense. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1021
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: He's the he's the guy that make plays. I think

1022
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: he's the guy that guys look look uh forward to

1023
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: to make plays and have juice to build up, build

1024
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: up the whole team. You know that type of guy

1025
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: is you know, typical crazy ass white boy. Yeah, but

1026
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: you know he tied it up and tied it up.

1027
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: Man I thought I thought one time, man I saw

1028
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 2: them celebrating some wins when at some point in time,

1029
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: man I thought they had blunts in the locker room.

1030
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: Bro. Like, I'm like, is that a blunting Max hand

1031
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: in the locker room? Or is that a cigar? I'm like,

1032
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't. It was rolled like a It looked like

1033
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 1: a cigar, but it was rolled right right. Man.

1034
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: Look, we want to see a lot more of that, man,

1035
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: especially coming from guys that's played at a high level. Man,

1036
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: we have a tremendous amount of respect for you and

1037
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: how you play the game. Man, Get healthy, brother, and

1038
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: go make that ship. Go make that ship count. Bro

1039
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: that bag, yeah, go make that ship count. Yeah. I

1040
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: think as we move forward, we see Geno Smith going

1041
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: back to New y arc. Is this an ultimate redemption

1042
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: arc for Geno going back to the team that drafted him?

1043
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: I saw he said.

1044
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: Something like, you know, you would never think that this

1045
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: would be something that will be a part of his story.

1046
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 2: Like what do you think about that? And being that

1047
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: that's been breaking news lately, I.

1048
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: Mean I don't really think about it too much. No,

1049
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: not at all, not at all. I mean you hear

1050
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: the stories, you know, even the GM admitting that some

1051
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: of the guys they get that they've acquired or draft.

1052
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: You know, it's not the place for him. Really. Yes, man,

1053
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: it's that Adam This that Leonard Fournette version of Adam

1054
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: schefferd like like, tell me about, tell me more. And

1055
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: I just I just think, like when you're losing and

1056
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: it's cold, it's bad. Bro, Oh it's bad. It's bad.

1057
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: It's bad. I dealt with it. Yeah, it's bad. And

1058
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: I hope Geno can go there and turn it around.

1059
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: You know, do you feel like he helps their team though?

1060
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Gino struggled a little bit last year,

1061
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: but I mean up until maybe last year, a year

1062
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: and a half, maybe two years ago.

1063
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: Come about the same team with Sam Donald Justin Fields

1064
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: that they had a lot of first round.

1065
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a real question. Up until

1066
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: before last year, Sam Donald winning the Super Bowl, would

1067
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: you say Sam Donald was a better quarterback than Geno Smith? Okay, okay,

1068
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: so I think so. I think Geno Smith going back

1069
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: to the Jets, you know, I think he's a step

1070
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: up from what they've had. Right, No, no shade to

1071
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, right if throwing training with Justin Fields.

1072
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: But you have to say Gino was in a better system.

1073
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: When in seattles. Yes, regardless of the system. You still

1074
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: got to pull the trigger back then, bro.

1075
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: But besides the wide receiving them as seventeen at the Jets,

1076
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: Gary Wilson, Gary Wilson and running back Brice Hall, what

1077
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: else do they have? They just besides the defense, the defense.

1078
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: The defense is the defense, which is great.

1079
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: They just got Davis back from the Saints and they

1080
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: last year I.

1081
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: Said, besides the defense. Okay, we're talking about scoring points now.

1082
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but last year they also acquired eighty eighty Mitchell

1083
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: that they kid from Texas, which I loved coming out

1084
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: of the draft. It didn't work out in Indianapolis, right,

1085
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: but he got traded mid season. I think he ended

1086
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: up being one of the leading receivers on the team.

1087
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: So he's going to have some young weapons that some

1088
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 2: guys that actually got juice right. And Gino was a leader,

1089
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: you know. So I would not be surprised if the

1090
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: Jets don't don't make a fight push for the AFC

1091
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: South this year through through either Buffalo or through the Patriots.

1092
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: So do you see them beating Buffalo? I see them.

1093
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: I see them having an opportunity to beat Buffalo. No, no, no,

1094
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: do you see them beating Buffalo it's gonna be a

1095
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: lot closer than it was last year. So that's a loss,

1096
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if it's a loss. I don't

1097
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: know if it's a win. But we will see the Patriots.

1098
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: Do you see them being the Patriots?

1099
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean honestly, but I thought the Patriots

1100
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 2: this year was you know, they had the weakest schedule

1101
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: in football. You know, they they won a couple of

1102
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: good games. I'm not sold on Drake May I'll be

1103
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: honest with you, right and I just feel like as

1104
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: well as they, you know, played throughout the playoffs, you know, they.

1105
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't see it, like I

1106
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: really don't. I really don't.

1107
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: I don't see them being I don't see them getting

1108
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: back to the playoffs and making the same splash that

1109
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: they made this previous year. And with the exit of

1110
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: Stephon Diggs, who was their leading receiver on the team,

1111
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: I just don't see them being in the same position

1112
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: there was in it last year.

1113
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we Shelsey. Look, I think the Jets fans

1114
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: should be very excited about, you know, acquiring Geno Smith

1115
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: and older wiser Smith, older wiser, much better Geno Smith

1116
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: don't look at last year. Last year, that whole you

1117
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: know franchise, the Las Vegas Raiders wasn't where we know it.

1118
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: It had been in years, right, and and and I

1119
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: think now Gino has a chance to you know, do

1120
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: what he's always done, you know, step up to the

1121
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: plate when back against the wall. We've seen that Geno

1122
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: Geno Gino a few times. Yeah, so you're saying basically

1123
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: this reunion can work. I think it's gonna work. That's

1124
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: what it is. Mm hm. Justin Fields from that whole

1125
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: acquisition of Geno Smith, Justin Fields then goes to Kansas City.

1126
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: I believe he signed a one year deal. Do you

1127
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: think what the injuries to Pat Mahomes, you know, Justin

1128
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 2: Fields could potentially step up into this Kansas City.

1129
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: Role and lead them to some wins this year. I

1130
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: believe until Pat gets back, you know, he's kind of

1131
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: like the reinsurance that he's a safe space. He's the

1132
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: safe space. Yeah, you know, I think Andy's gonna it's

1133
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: not gonna have him do as much, right. You know,

1134
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: Andy's a great coach. You know Andy Reid. His first

1135
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: team players are crazy man. First ten first team are crazy,

1136
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: insane and I think with that offense, you know, Travis

1137
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: coming back, he has multiple guys to draw the ball to. Yep.

1138
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: You know, so just seeing seeing him uh in that offense,

1139
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, with a much better coach, you know, offensive

1140
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: minded coach that can help him. Yeah, the Scott's limit. Fhm.

1141
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: Man, you speak about Andy Reid and it's crazy how

1142
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: you how like just anyone under his leadership or who

1143
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: has played in this offense, they find some type of

1144
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: way to be successful. I remember playing in Cleveland and

1145
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: we went to Kansas City.

1146
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: For a playoff game.

1147
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: We just had killed the Steelers and then we go

1148
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: to Kansas City and we're battling Patrick Mahomes all the

1149
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: way to the third quarter. Patrick Mahomes gets hurt, knocked

1150
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: out with a concussion in the third quarter.

1151
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: My goal come in, Chad, Henny Bro. I'm thinking to myself,

1152
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, like God, God, you did it for us, Like, Bro,

1153
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: were about to beat the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm telling you, Bro,

1154
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 1: like like we're looking around, like listen, if we didn't

1155
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: have a chance, now we got a chance.

1156
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes is out for the rest of the game.

1157
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 2: I don't even notice Chad Henny guy. So so, Bro,

1158
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: Chad Henny comes in.

1159
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: So you know, Chad Henney was drafted by the Jets, Man,

1160
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't care where he was drafted at first it

1161
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: was the first round pick. Bro, I don't care where.

1162
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: I don't care, Bro, I don't care.

1163
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: There's no way we're thinking that Chad Henny is going

1164
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: to come in and be it as effective as Patrick Mahomes.

1165
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: And he wasn't, mind you, he wasn't.

1166
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: What's tough, but the beauty of Andy Reid to be

1167
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: able to say, you know what, we're gonna get the

1168
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: ball in. Tyreek hans a lot quicker, We're gonna get

1169
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: the ball in. You know mcole Hartmon hands a lot

1170
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 2: faster and Bro, that changed the whole dynamic of the game.

1171
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: Before you know it, like we're in a shootout again.

1172
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: So did you kind of lose hope when it became

1173
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: to another shootout? No, I didn't lose hope.

1174
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: We got him down to a fourth down, Bro, And

1175
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: it was a weird ass penalty that was in part

1176
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: of that game. Not a penalty, but they called it

1177
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: like a scrambled right, Yeah, he scrambled, but listen, but listen,

1178
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: but Listen, he wasn't under the pressure that he should

1179
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: have been in because the score should have been tied

1180
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: or we should have been winning because we went in

1181
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: the score and my guy, Rashaw Higgins full circle moment

1182
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: he dives in to score a touchdown.

1183
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:45,959
Speaker 1: He gets hit.

1184
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: As he's getting hit, he fumbles, the ball goes out

1185
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: of bounds. They called it a touch back. If that

1186
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: point counts. Chad Henney, he's gonna have to turn into

1187
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes out there because because because we will be

1188
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 2: playing with the lead and the game will be looking

1189
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: a lot different. Man, but they're playing with the lead.

1190
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: We had to put We put a couple of good

1191
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: drives together. We definitely still should have won that game.

1192
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 2: But man, he found a way to get it done. Man.

1193
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: He ran for on the third down. He ran for

1194
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: like fifteen yards. It's crazy.

1195
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: It was so crazy. My rookiy and Jacksonville. He was there.

1196
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: Chad tough as hell. Never I never heard of him. Yes,

1197
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: he's tough as hell. He's very tough. And just knowing

1198
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: knowing him and just seeing, man, I got beef with

1199
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: this guy. I don't know. The more you talk about

1200
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: and trying to build him up in my head. In

1201
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: my head, I'm getting hot because I got beef with

1202
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: this man. He's a great guy. Bro, Bro, I understand

1203
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: he beats you and everything, but listen, he's a great guy.

1204
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you understand. Bro.

1205
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: That year Kansas City ended up playing Buffalo and beating

1206
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo to go to the Super Bowl. Yeah right, yeah, Bro,

1207
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: that same that same year we had beat Buffalo, like

1208
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: trash him so in our mind and wear in my

1209
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: mind now I look back at it, Chad Henny really

1210
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: liked the football guy.

1211
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: I really like crushed my dreams. Football guys wasn't on

1212
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: your side, but he crushed my dreams.

1213
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: Man, he crushed my dream This man, cold Chad Henney

1214
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: came off the bench, bro like and.

1215
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: Crushed my dreams. Man like.

1216
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, he crushed my dreams. Though I ain't gonna lie,

1217
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm still.

1218
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: A little salty about that. Bro. Listen, You're not welcome

1219
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Broad Listen. I'm trying to give you a PAS,

1220
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: but you know is on your ass. But stop talking

1221
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: about this. Okay, Okay, so it was over. I'm done

1222
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: with it. So Bro, I'm just thinking back on, you know,

1223
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: growing up like the guys who watch played right, who

1224
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: you watched play? You know, I know most guys going

1225
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: to say, you know, uh, Reggie Bush, you know, uh

1226
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: you know who else man? Reggie so many tevan, But

1227
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: you know the guy that I experienced growing up was

1228
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: Cody Paul the little kid. Yes, he was adult. He

1229
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: was number five. He was adult, bro. Is that why

1230
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 1: you were five in high school? No? No, no, because

1231
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: of him. I just five, ye something. You know people

1232
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: call me five? What I do? You know what I'm saying,

1233
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: but just watching him and I and you know, not

1234
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: that I got this platform I used, you know, I

1235
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: d M him like probably like a year ago. He's

1236
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: a he's a teacher at I think I believe his

1237
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: whole old it's old high school. That's dope. And you

1238
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: know he's giving back. You know, I asked him, you know,

1239
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: how far did he go with his football dreams and everything?

1240
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: I think he only went to college or whatever whatever

1241
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: the case may be. But guys that I deserve that,

1242
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: I feel like deserves the recognition. He's definitely one of

1243
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: the guys that man he was who inspired a young

1244
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: guy like me, who uh who is high? Like? Take

1245
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: what the song was? Law? Wayne? Yea, I make it

1246
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: right now. Listen, listen, Cody Paul shout out to you, bro.

1247
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna see this because I follow him on Instagram. Yeah,

1248
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: you know he's he's one of the he's the maybe

1249
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: go to his time. And also another guy who I

1250
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: feel like was way before his time, you know that

1251
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: that I used to love was Pat White. Pat White

1252
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: was left handed and then he got the league and

1253
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: then all right, listen, we can keep doing this right,

1254
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: all right? A guy that was before his time, though,

1255
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: Pat White, I give you your flowers. You know, Pat

1256
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: White was Pat White was legit. Pat White was legit.

1257
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I don't you know at that time,

1258
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: you know n C Double A. I remember playing n

1259
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: C Double A and you either was playing with argument

1260
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: that he was playing with West Virginia like it is

1261
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: what it is. You know, they had the two best

1262
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the game, you know what I mean outside

1263
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: of Tim Tebow at that time. That was all around

1264
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: the same era if I'm not mistaken, But but yeah,

1265
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: Pat White was legit?

1266
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: Man? Who else? Who else did you did you watch.

1267
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: Growing up that you know you try to either member

1268
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: your game after you just thought they had a.

1269
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: Good I'm not gonna say mimic because like he's much

1270
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: smaller than me. But when I got to high school,

1271
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: Stiva and Austin had one of the craziest you know,

1272
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: uh high school highlights. Even though when he when we

1273
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 1: all played against someone I was getting recruited and y'all

1274
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 1: shut his ass down. Man seven was on that boy

1275
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: tire made them disappear for that game. I'm gonna I'm

1276
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna be real so on their head. So but Tevon

1277
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: is if guys who was not familiar with this game,

1278
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: man uh, I think he still holds the I'm not

1279
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Speaker 1: sure all purple five hundred and seventy ten he re.

1280
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: Taed against Oklahoma that that that alone is one of

1281
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: the best, the greatest high school I mean college mixtapes

1282
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: ever ever created, ever made, Like I watched it before,

1283
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: you know, playing in high school, even in college, I

1284
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: think until we played him and then Tam seven. Just man, listen,

1285
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: you know, I know y'all was the Mountaineers, but when

1286
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: them Tigers came up there, boy, ain't no nobody it

1287
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: wasn't sitting on them couches outside a huh bt a

1288
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: belt ass. Oh my goodness, yes, sir, this bt hey

1289
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: cue to Marvin Marvin the Michael Urban clip right now.

1290
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: Man, we was on the head. I don't think think

1291
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: I think y'all were ranking. They were ringing too. Bro.

1292
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 2: Yes that Gino spit stepping Bailey. Tavon Austin like we

1293
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: was going up there thinking like, Yo, it's gonna be

1294
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: boy on the I'm talking about hitting the kicker.

1295
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: I remember hitting the kicker, bro brou playing thirty. Bro.

1296
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: We was anything to win, anything to win. But that's again,

1297
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: that was the culture is shoe like, bro. Like we

1298
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: was just very like when it went went on Saturdays. Bro,

1299
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: Like we just had to switch bro. Like everybody on

1300
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: that like it's that like everybody went into an alter ego,

1301
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: Like everybody became Avenger. Like it was crazy, Bro, it

1302
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: was crazy like it was no other time like it.

1303
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: Man.

1304
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: But Tavon Austin definitely did have one of the you know,

1305
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: one of the infamous highlight tapes of highlight tapes ever made.

1306
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: But you will never see an L s U L

1307
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: s U on that. You never give me your top

1308
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: five college uh how I taped from our error. I'm

1309
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: not talking about from the Dion's you know, Barry Sanders.

1310
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: You know, guys, you know you've seen in college.

1311
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: You know in college, Oh that I knew personally, Oh

1312
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: oh got it?

1313
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: Crazy?

1314
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: I like, even though my man went to I ain't

1315
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: go to I ain't gonna kill I ain't gonna say that.

1316
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, listen, no, no, let's be real. Nah.

1317
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: But but look, let me give you a crazy little

1318
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: dead story. Right.

1319
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 2: So so his highlight tape crazy by the way, College

1320
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 2: of High School's high school college.

1321
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: He was playing as people from the Post. Listen, listen,

1322
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,959
Speaker 1: you take that over the law. But look, but look,

1323
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: but look, but look.

1324
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: My dog was was again before his time.

1325
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: Obviously you know what I mean. Obviously you know whether

1326
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: it was.

1327
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: Catching, catching kickoffs at one hands, you know, running punt's back,

1328
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: playing receiver, whatever, it was like he was an animal

1329
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 2: deare it was. It was definitely you could see the

1330
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: distinction between like who going to the league or who

1331
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: going to college and who not?

1332
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: Right, but I will say this, I will say this.

1333
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: I remember I remember our freshman year at LSU, and

1334
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: I know you remember this too. TM is there tyrons

1335
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: there and we're doing seven on sevens, going on ones

1336
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 2: like in the summertime and.

1337
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: Bro, y'all she could be listen, I walked do in y'all.

1338
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: She used to be competitive. Bro, the defense had all black.

1339
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: Bro that she used to be crazy watching that ship,

1340
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: bro Bro Tyring Tyring Tyring jam Odell all the way

1341
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: to like the doors in the ops like and took

1342
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: from the from from the numbers to the to the doors.

1343
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm down there, ripped his shirt off, and I'm like, shit,

1344
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: real who damn But you know, bruh, that boy minus

1345
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: that private school thing you're trying to put on, right, man,

1346
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: that it turned him into a monster dog. It turned

1347
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: him into a monster bro. He came back a new beast.

1348
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: He started putting weight on, you know. And that year

1349
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: he was the only he was freshman All American.

1350
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. From three to three. This when he

1351
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: was number thirty three. This is when he was number

1352
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: thirty three, right, you know.

1353
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: But but what I'm saying like, but I'm saying like

1354
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: it was it was one of those things where you know,

1355
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: Tying also being from New Orleans, yeah right, and maybe

1356
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: knowing that Odell prayed against prep school kids and whatever

1357
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: it is, so he kind of just wanted to like

1358
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: It's a difference, right, It's a difference for like I

1359
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 2: was raised over here in the dirty water.

1360
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: You was raised over here maybe in the cleanup water, right, sure.

1361
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: But I think that competition drew greatness like throughout the

1362
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: whole building. Bro, and I watched O'Dell at that point,

1363
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: you know, become like a man for real, like as

1364
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: far as like on the field, dog, Bro, this nigga

1365
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: was like, Bro, that's never happening again.

1366
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: And it never happened again, right, you know what I'm saying.

1367
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: So I would say, I would say his high tape

1368
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: is legit?

1369
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,479
Speaker 1: Right? Who else did I watch at the time?

1370
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 2: Man, I used to watch Reggie Bush a lot, just

1371
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: because I played running back a little bit as well.

1372
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 2: I did, Bro, Bro, I played running back in line

1373
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: back in high school.

1374
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: I said, I listen, I remember watching, Yeah, So you

1375
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1376
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: So, I so watching Reggie Bush was kind of like

1377
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: that's how I got my That's honestly, that's really how

1378
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: I got my sticks from. Yeah, Like yeah, and outside

1379
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: of that, Bro, Honestly, I don't know. I watched like

1380
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: a lot of like Jerry Rice, I watched a lot

1381
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 2: of like t O t O is my favorite receiver

1382
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: of all times. So now we mean t o play

1383
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 2: pick a ball together. So it's you know, it's like

1384
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: full circle for me for that. But like and really

1385
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: that's that's really it. I can't even remember anybody else

1386
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: that I could say, Like, I was like watching the

1387
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 2: highlight tape all over and over and over and.

1388
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: All right. For this next segment, Landy's Locks spotsorby hard

1389
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: Rock Bet Final four is here. Who you got for

1390
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: my final four locks? I am picking Duke from the East,

1391
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: Sam Boozer. Yes, sir, he is the son of an

1392
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 1: NBA legend who's doing this thing. I mean, he's standing

1393
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: out from a lot of people. I love it. I

1394
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: love it right, So we're gonna go the West Villanova

1395
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: just because I've seen him win. I just had. I

1396
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: just had to pick him. I get I've seen him

1397
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: make a big shot. Been doing it for long. Yeah,

1398
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: they've been doing it for a while. The Midwest. I

1399
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 1: have to go with an SEC school. Let's go. Let's

1400
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: hunn a l s U listen, we have we have

1401
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: a long ways to go with that program, but I

1402
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: have faith we would get it done. I go Tigers,

1403
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: Go Tigers, and South Saint Mary's Mary. Yes, Oh where

1404
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: is Saint Mary? Say? Amaraz and Cali, California? Yes, sir,

1405
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: Okay they got hoopers there or what over the years

1406
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: they have. It's gonna be an interesting final four. I'm

1407
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: picking off history.

1408
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: I see, I see. That's why you pick Villanova. Yes,

1409
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 2: all right, what about Gonzaga, b yu.

1410
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: They're not on my list? So even they have great history?

1411
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: All right. I wanted to switch it up. Ye be different, Yeah,

1412
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: stand out like fourth and South. I like that stand out,

1413
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: like for this South if one of these team wins? Right?

1414
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: How much you think I should put on this? I

1415
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: don't know. When you said Saint Mary, I was just like,

1416
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 1: not too much, don't do too much. Just do a

1417
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: little bit, just do it? What a little bit? Ten

1418
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: grand five? Whatever you say, I'm gonna say half of it. Okay,

1419
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: twenty fit in so do five? That's not all right?

1420
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: So that's Lenny's locks man. So I know, you know,

1421
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: we just finished talking about a couple of guys you

1422
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: know we looked at growing up, you know, looked up

1423
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,919
Speaker 1: to as far as plan watching, you know, the highlights

1424
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: and things like that. But on a more personal level,

1425
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, the infrastructure in your house,

1426
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: the foundation you know, who are some of the people

1427
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: that you know helped you guide you along the way

1428
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: on your process of being who you are, the man

1429
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: you are, the father you are, the brother you are. Yeah, bro,

1430
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: you know.

1431
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: What I think it's easy to say that, like, you know,

1432
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: not easy to say like my family, right, Like my

1433
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: family has being you know, extremely supportive. But you know,

1434
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 2: my mom worked two jobs growing up, so it was

1435
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 2: always tough for her to be around or get me

1436
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:45,520
Speaker 2: to practice.

1437
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: And I think the people that play the biggest role

1438
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: in my life was like my coaches, right, especially in

1439
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: high school. Right.

1440
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 2: There's so many people in my community, my community, my

1441
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: community to you, bro, bro, literally unksung heroes like the

1442
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 2: Jarvis Langer that's sitting here, like would not be sitting here, right,

1443
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I think they were

1444
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: all part of my story. When you hear it, it

1445
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 2: takes a village. Yeah, Like like looking back to the.

1446
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: Countries, took a country.

1447
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: No for real though, Like looking back at it, I'm

1448
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: just like, damn, Like where would I be if if

1449
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: my coach wouldn't have drove from lecture to convent to

1450
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: come pick me up? And then bring me back to

1451
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 2: practice and then bring me back home.

1452
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: Right. Obviously he know, like he knew that having me

1453
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: on the team would you know, lead to wins, right,

1454
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: But he also made sacrifices for.

1455
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: Me as a as a human, right, and like he

1456
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 2: took time away from his family, right, you know, to

1457
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 2: drive thirty minutes this way, thirty minutes back and coach

1458
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 2: and then go thirty minutes back.

1459
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: Bro, that's you know what I mean. So for me, man,

1460
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: it was like like.

1461
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 2: Coaches, like people that I crossed path would throughout my life,

1462
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: even you know, in college, even you know to this

1463
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: day where you know, I was like, man, I wouldn't

1464
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: even be sitting here if like this person then picked

1465
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 2: me up, or this person then just text me, right

1466
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: like our friendship.

1467
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: Right, Like, Bro, you you.

1468
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 2: Are in my chapter in my book, Right, you have

1469
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: a chapter because you know, like you are a person

1470
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,879
Speaker 2: when we're going through our transition. Right, that like stepped

1471
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 2: up for me, right, that like saved my life in

1472
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: a way, right because I was having dark ass thoughts,

1473
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's like those type

1474
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: of people, man, Like my family obviously played you know

1475
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: with the foundation, but I think the unsung heroes are

1476
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: people that don't get enough credit and you don't hear

1477
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 2: their name enough. Right, it's too many to name, right.

1478
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: We like the people in my community, coaches, guys like yourself,

1479
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: know about for you.

1480
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: Same right though, my father and my mother. You know,

1481
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 1: I have a story that you know, my mother always

1482
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: believed in me. She manifested in my life. Like one day,

1483
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: you know I had a reading problem, right, I studied

1484
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,799
Speaker 1: a lot. You know. She used to take our time

1485
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: out of work, Uh finish, come up, come on after work,

1486
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: sitting there with me for four hours and uh and

1487
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: have me talk and talk to myself. Mm to take

1488
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Speaker 1: my time to understand that. She always saying like, Leona,

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01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: you gonna you gonna speak to thousands of people. I

1490
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: just be like, I just be like like I must

1491
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: to be like like like what the like? What the fuck? Man?

1492
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: And it it never it never really hit me dawned

1493
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: upon me. Now, So now that I'm doing this and

1494
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that, you know, it's kind of coming in

1495
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: f in full circle. Right. So now it's certain people

1496
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: in our lives, right that we we didn't realize that

1497
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: we needed to be there, right, And I know sometimes

1498
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: in our personal life, like when I was on my

1499
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: way here, I was asking God, like, you know, what

1500
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: is something I could speak on, like just to help

1501
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 1: the viewers out there, uh, people in life, you know,

1502
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: And and it came to me like debt, right, and

1503
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, and debt is a part of it is

1504
01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: a part of life, you know in the Bible, you know,

1505
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: is there's a place after this, after what is called

1506
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: uh ever whatever it is, after life after life and

1507
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And there's one person that stuck to

1508
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: my mind as my older cousin, Chas Tyler, who died

1509
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: from hard failure. Right. And he's one of the unsung

1510
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 1: heroes in my life that you know, I wish I

1511
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: would have spent more time with. But you know, sometimes

1512
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: when you're on your high hearts, you know, you're with

1513
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: your friends. And he's someone that committed his life to me.

1514
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: And he was in he was in the military, he

1515
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: did services and everything, but when he had free time,

1516
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: he always came to my high school games, you know,

1517
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: my college games. And you know, I think about you know,

1518
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: his debt and his it's a kid to deal with

1519
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: it day by day. You know. He's just some people

1520
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: in your life. You can't you can't get over and

1521
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. And I've I've I've come with

1522
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: a realization that I'm cool with that. M Right, And bruh,

1523
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: this this, it means so much having good people in

1524
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: your corner that you didn't know you really needed it

1525
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: til they're gone. And just reflecting on my life from

1526
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: high school, from parkball, you know, and where we're from.

1527
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm from New Orleans, right, that is so normal, Like

1528
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: it's so normal. So as I'm older and I raised

1529
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: my kids in a different environment, that shit is not normal, like, right,

1530
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: it's not. So I just have to you know this

1531
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: day by day, bruh, just understanding man, life is so

1532
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: precious and the people that who are part of your journey,

1533
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: who is a part of your story, you brought, you

1534
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: brought up, your coach. You know. I've been out of

1535
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: high school. I graduated in fourteen. You graduated, this is eleven.

1536
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: And for you to still remember that them drives you

1537
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That made us who I am.

1538
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: And I'm telling people at home like it's okay to grieve,

1539
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: Like it's okay to to not forget those people, you know,

1540
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: and and I see my kids go through similarities. Now.

1541
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: You know, my wife's sister passed away a couple of

1542
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: months back, and how hard they took it. And that's

1543
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: why us growing up, we grew up in a hard

1544
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: is a hard ever Like you know, he cries, he

1545
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: cries it as a boy, man, you be tough. I

1546
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: let my sons cry like it's okay because you know,

1547
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: not gonna get these times back, you know. And maybe

1548
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: it's billing my character or it's challenging me to be

1549
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: a better a better father, you know what I'm saying,

1550
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: like to me, And I know everybody have their their

1551
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: own opinions, but it's it's not I have. I have

1552
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: the best fault in the world. Right, A true story.

1553
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: I was around twelve, eleven years old. My father's been

1554
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 1: shot up, shout up, got shot. I think he got

1555
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: shot like nine times, right, And I could remember, like

1556
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: I had a playoff game coming up, and uh, you know,

1557
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: my my father's been my coach my entire life, my

1558
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: entire life, so you know I had okay, okay, playoff game. Uh.

1559
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: And that's why I like, that's my man's through whatever,

1560
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: because I could remember, like looking at the stands he

1561
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: there you have stitches from well then they call it

1562
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: the zipper from here to here. And the stand supported me.

1563
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: And I'm thirty one years old to this day. That's

1564
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: one of the highlights of my life that stick with me.

1565
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: Having to beat up for my sons, my my daughters,

1566
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: even my brothers and my sisters, you know. And true story, man,

1567
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: we have the rookie premiere in LA and Uh, one

1568
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: of the coaches like, you know, cause I was obviously

1569
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: a high pick, you know, like Leonard, who you who

1570
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: you like? Who is your game? After I'm like, who

1571
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: you look like? Who you looked up to? I'm like,

1572
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: be real, like none of y'all Like I was being

1573
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: real like when I was in the seventh Wall, Like

1574
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: and that's no. And I'm not saying this. Don't have

1575
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: somebody look up to, you know what I'm saying. But

1576
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: Mines were my Mines was my father. Yeah, it never

1577
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: was another football player, you know he was until this day.

1578
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: He's still he's like my superhero. We talk every day.

1579
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: You know, now that I'm older, I understand them, you

1580
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, different environments, you know,

1581
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: different upbringings. Uh, And I know how much I love

1582
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: my kids and you too. You do a great job

1583
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: with your son and your daughter, you know. So I

1584
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: want to come in you on what you're doing that

1585
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 1: that shit doesn't go and notice in any father out

1586
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: there that's doing the best that they can to provide

1587
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: for their kids, their family, their dreams, you know, and

1588
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: maybe you don't have the financial background to fulfill to

1589
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: try the needs to do what you need to do. Man,

1590
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: you have someone there that's backing you up in your

1591
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: dog times when you needed me, and even the times

1592
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: you called me and I didn't really express myself of

1593
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 1: when I needed someone to talk to, I just won't

1594
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: say thank you because once again, like I said, good

1595
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: people deserve good people, and you one of the good

1596
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: guys that's in my life life that helped me through

1597
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 1: some crazy times which I needed, even a time when

1598
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: the Saint's game, when you just came to my house,

1599
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: I was going to a dog time because I was

1600
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 1: in a transition going from RB one to RB two,

1601
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: you know, And you told me something when I dropped

1602
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: you off, like man, you know who you are. Remain

1603
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: you don't let that fade you, you know, And I

1604
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: wind up having a good game, because that whole week

1605
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: was bothering me, you know, especially like being a starter

1606
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: and seeing the starters come on the Megatron and things

1607
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 1: like that. And you go from you know, from the

1608
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: first three years hearing your name going into your fourth

1609
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: year somebody else's name. You know, it's like it's almost

1610
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: like an ego check, right. So I needed that. I

1611
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 1: needed you. I needed forth the South just to express

1612
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: my stories, my life stories I went through that We're

1613
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: going to continue to grow as father's, father's brothers, husband's boyfriends,

1614
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, and more and most importly

1615
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: men of Christ. You know, the calls on Wednesdays. I

1616
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: I need that. I I be needing that because, yeah,

1617
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: we might have people and people think money cos m

1618
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: r m M. The thing money is to can solve everything,

1619
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: you know, to be real, it makes you even lonelier, yeah,

1620
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: because not everyone can understand your problems. You can't go

1621
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 1: to like they be like what you mad for? You

1622
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: got millions of dollars, But I have that. But I'm

1623
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 1: there's a scripture right for man to conquer the whole world,

1624
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: lose his soul. M. That's what I'm not trying to do.

1625
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: I'm not tryna lose my soul, you know what I'm saying.

1626
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 2: So how has how has how has I appreciate you

1627
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: saying everything that you said. How has these experiences that

1628
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 2: you've been through help you become a better friend and

1629
01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: a better father?

1630
01:21:58,720 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: Right? Like?

1631
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 2: Like, what are some things that for people that may

1632
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 2: be going through similar things as you as us? Because

1633
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: we all, you know, we all have similar problems, right.

1634
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 1: We all are human.

1635
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: You know, how has things that you've been through throughout

1636
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: your career, through your family history, through through through through

1637
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: your dad, how has all those things helped you as

1638
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: a person? Like, like, what could you say, like your

1639
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 2: biggest takeaway is as a person as as as now

1640
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 2: a friend, right as a as a father? Like in

1641
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: those three areas of your life, you know, as a businessman,

1642
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: four areas of your life, what would you say is

1643
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 2: the biggest takeaway from your life experiences to those four

1644
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: different things?

1645
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: I thank God man, just having God God involved in

1646
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: everything I do. You know, with decision making for my kids,

1647
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: whether it's to play certain sports or to push them

1648
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: to have them get their confidence. Confidence in areas the weekend,

1649
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: like I know my son is very shy, right, and

1650
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: you know, you can see certain things in your kids,

1651
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: like they're athletic. You know, they have a they have

1652
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: they might they might have a future and a sport.

1653
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: And I just try to break them out of that.

1654
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: Like as far as man be, you be you. I

1655
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: come from a praying family, a praying mother who kept

1656
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: us in church Monday through Sunday. I mean, you know, mom,

1657
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: it was aggravated, but it paid off. It worked. I'm I'm,

1658
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: I'm one of those. I was like a black sheep

1659
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: almost in my family. I put out of six schools,

1660
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 1: and you know, football wound up being my my my

1661
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: thing to save save me behavior wise, helped me for

1662
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: discipline and understand the structure even though I had it

1663
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: at home. You know what I'm saying. I still kind

1664
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: of messed up, But it showed me when I fell

1665
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: in love with the game and I got in trouble

1666
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: in school right and I couldn't play. I go to

1667
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: practice first time really crying something like damn, like you

1668
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: fall in love with this, with this game you didn't

1669
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 1: much know as a kid. So now what I do now? Bro?

1670
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: I put God in every situation, every decision, every relationship.

1671
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: You know, if it's even if even even if I

1672
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: got a question it too many times, bro, I think

1673
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 1: it's just like all right to me. That's like God

1674
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: talk with me like let it go, let it go, Leonard,

1675
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: Like you've been through another enough situations where you're grow

1676
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,799
Speaker 1: you have to learn. Uh, it's understanding like some people

1677
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: are some people are going to be in life for

1678
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: reasons and seasons and it's okay, you know. I know

1679
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 1: for me, I'm a I love hard like I grew

1680
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: up on that loyalty like to the bone, you know.

1681
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: So for me to speak up on your answer, I

1682
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: think I involved in God and every every aspect of

1683
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: my life is what it's what's making me who I am.

1684
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think for I think for

1685
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 2: most people out there, who are you know, first generation

1686
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 2: you know millionaire or first generation let's just say success,

1687
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: the first generation graduate whatever it is right, like in essence,

1688
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: like we were breaking curses right, generational curses right, and

1689
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 2: to keep those things broken. Man, I think you hit

1690
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 2: it right on the head. Just you know, keep God

1691
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: in everything that you do.

1692
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: Ye.

1693
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: Man, It's been an honor to sit here with you

1694
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 2: and share this platform and share this stage and use

1695
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: our voices as testimonies for our other brothers and sisters

1696
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 2: out there, man to not only be able to talk

1697
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 2: about fashion and football, but also be able to talk

1698
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 2: about life.

1699
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: With you and have real conversations. Right that for us

1700
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 1: aren't hypothetical. Right.

1701
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 2: We went through this, right, We've been through this right,

1702
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 2: and so man, it's a privilege to be here, man,

1703
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 2: and to share a space with you. And until next

1704
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,799
Speaker 2: time for this out we out baby.

1705
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 1: Good luck surviving offseason football fans. At first, I was afraid.

1706
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 1: I was petrified. Football's all. It's like a part of

1707
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 1: me just died inside two hundred these two foot bowls back.

1708
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 1: But tonight I won't just cry because I've got always

1709
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: to play, and that's the place with hard rock bed

1710
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: I we survived. Offered by the Seminal Try but Florida

1711
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: must be twenty one plus and physically president in Florida

1712
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: to wait your terms of conditional plot. If you are

1713
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: someone you know as a family problem, please call one

1714
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 1: eight three three play wise