WEBVTT - BobbyCast #68 with Kip Moore 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:01.960 Hey, it's Bobby Bones. I want to hop on here 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:03.440 and tell you about the show I do from my 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.560 house called The Bobby Cast. It's a show where artists 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:08.680 and songwriters stopped by to talk for about an hour. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:12.360 You can listen and subscribe on iTunes or I Heart Radio. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.720 Just search Bobby Cast, click subscribe. You will get a 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.360 new episode every week, sometimes more. I'm gonna play you 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.040 one now well kipt More. This is right before his 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.400 album Slow Heart came out. This episode, but there's so 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:27.560 many more up there you can check out. Just search 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.360 Bobby Cast wherever you listen to podcasts, I Heart Radio 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.159 or iTunes and click to subscribe. Here you go. Hi, 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.800 Welcome to episode sixty of The Bobby Cast and with 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.559 Kip Moore today. Good because you tune here showing up 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.120 here today. Can you talk about what you're doing today? Yeah, 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.280 I was doing this thing with UM with Chase Salia 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.280 when we've filmed last week where I was on the 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.840 on the track with him in Michigan and it's uh, 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.160 they've picked some athletes where they've they're kind of asking 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.360 how do they get ready for race? What music they 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.679 listened to? And he listens to my music so it's 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.760 that's pretty cool. It was cool man, Um, you know 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.759 I read in the chase. It's funny. I met him 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:12.720 probably a year and a half ago. Drake White and 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.400 I were playing a show and he was kind of uh, 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.800 he was announcing both of us, and so we got 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.600 to hang. Then I got to know him then, and 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.080 I didn't know that, you know, he was a fan 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:22.679 of the music back then, so we talked about it 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.400 back then, and uh, it was neat man, just seeing 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.360 his whole world, because I can admit that I'm not 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.800 like I didn't grow up with NASCAR. Really, I've seen 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:33.480 race it's probably like you have, but I don't know 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.959 the detail of it. So him bringing me, you know, 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.160 in the garage, showing how they build the cars up, 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.840 tear him down after almost every race, all the aerodynamics 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.120 that go into it, and then and then it was 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.000 kind of like me picking his brain on the way 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:49.880 he likes to you know, you would think a NASCAR 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.320 driver I would want to listen to like really pumped 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:54.840 up music, but he's like, I like to get as 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.120 calm as I possibly can because the race is so long, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:01:59.800 and it helps me kind of settling and knowing that 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.520 it's gonna be. You know, he likes really chilled out 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.880 music before he gets in a car. That's an interesting thing. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.559 Who who's coming to you before and say hey, Which 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.160 was surprising to you, is that, man, I really love 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.320 your music where you're like, wow, that's cool, like you 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:16.800 like my music. Um Man, I can't think of the 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.960 top of my head right now. I know there's been 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.720 a few of those cases where any other artists, even 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.519 in town, that they will call you be like, dude, 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.600 I just heard the song of yours and it's fantastic. Um. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.280 Jaren Johnston, I'm such a fan of what the collect 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.600 three do uh so much, and jar and I are 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.079 we've become pretty good buddies. But I can remember when 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.720 the first time he heard that was us. He's like, 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.840 if you don't put this song out, I'm gonna come 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:41.680 up with your house and fight you. Mar So, I mean, 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.480 he's just he was a big fan of that, and 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.280 then we ended up touring together after that, so um, yeah, 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.639 you know I didn't know that. You know, Jared was 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:51.760 around with in my music, so you know, it's it's 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.960 cool man, when other people that you respect respect what 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.760 you do. You're an interesting guy, and I think in 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.200 the past six months or so, we probably got to 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:00.760 know each other better than we have in the past 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.520 three and a half years before that. But we were talking. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.080 We're you and I are up in a room at 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:11.720 our management office. We're talking about Bob Dylan. Yeah, and 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.160 you were talking and you were like, you know, I 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.040 still and I was listening to you because listen, I 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.919 like to listen. And you and you were talking, and 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.000 you're talking about Bob Dylan, and you were talking about 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.160 I used to study Bob Dylan lyrics, and I was like, 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.519 look at this guy, another layer of the onion. I 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.560 think kept more onion I did. Man, you know, I 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:38.280 feel like, um, I feel like Dylan somewhat kind of 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.920 saved me from myself. I can be um. I feel 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:46.120 like I'm I'm really coming out of that, but I UM, 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.080 I can battle a lot of my own demons pretty heavily. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.040 And at the time when I really discovered dealon, I mean, 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.920 my dad played him something growing up. But you know, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.680 when you're when you're fourteen and fifteen, you can't comprehend 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.800 what Dylan singing about and what can you relate to it? 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:02.920 You can enjoy the music and the melody, which I 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.920 did kind of the same thing with with Seeger and Springsteen, 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.880 but I can't relate to but Bob Seeger against the 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.600 Wind when I'm fourteen, you know. But um, the more, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.840 you know, I left home when I was like seventeen, 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.599 and I went like seven hours away to go play school. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.400 But you know, go to basket and play basketball away 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.719 from school. And and then I've been traveling ever since 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.400 and just living life and diving into stuff wide open. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.840 And I've been on my own, taking care of myself. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:32.240 And I can remember living and the biggest dump the 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.360 last time I went recently to drive by the place, 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.479 and I had yellow tape around the whole place. I guess, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.240 I guess something like that I went down, But man, 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.640 it was awful. It was. It was awful, man. And uh, 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.159 just that feeling of which I'm sure you've had, that 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:50.479 where looking around at all your friends kind of on 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.920 the hamster wheel of life that sometimes I admire that 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:55.640 I wish I could, you know, be that way. The 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.960 people that just you know, they'll go work for the 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.479 dad's insturance company or whatever, and and they'll make a 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.640 good living. They'll you know, plant roots, you know, plant roots, 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.839 have a wife and kids, and and go through that 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.600 whole kind of structure that we're all kind of programmed 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.560 to due at a young age. And here I was 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.160 living in a complete ship hole. Am I allowed to 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:24.000 say that on this just feeling like the biggest low life. 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:28.040 But at the same time I had that exciting feeling 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.640 every morning I woke up that anything could happen where 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.440 I felt like everybody else they knew exactly what the 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.159 day was gonna be, and it was gonna be like 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.240 when they came home. There was an excitement of just 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:42.320 feeling like and they could light and constrike tomorrow. And 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.880 I think that when I really dove into dealing, and 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.359 around seven, I mean I would I would spend I 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:54.400 get off work and I'd write from from five to 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.719 twelve o'clock at night, and then I would lay on 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.360 the floor. I've always liked to lay on the floor. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:05:59.960 I don't know why, but I had a record player 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.320 and I would listen to all the old deal in 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.880 records told three or four o'clock in the morning, and 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.680 I'd write. I'd write out his lyrics. I try to 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.320 understand the way he was using his metaphors and everything 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.240 and the playoff of words. He was the best to 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:16.680 playoff of words. And I was just blown away by 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.640 his music. I was so well. It was such an 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.280 aspiring time for me, and I felt like I really 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:24.960 related to a lot of what dealing was saying a 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.680 lot of music, and I feel like I've always had 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.080 that that passionate spirit about me, and I looked at 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.920 things in an innocent kind of way, which a lot 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.120 of his music was was. There was such an innocence 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.960 to it. There's that I have a lot of onion. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:40.560 There's a lot of onion to talk about here. What 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.599 do you There's also the part that I found it 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.160 struck me is that you had a couple of hits 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.120 and you wouldn't got an apartment your first decently nice 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.640 place to live. It was my first place. It was decent, 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.680 but it wasn't good for your soul, so you had 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:00.640 to move out. Yeah, I felt like I found myself 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.239 all of a sudden. It's kind of like I thrive 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.760 on misery, misery in a weird way, but I found 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.480 myself comfortable for the first time in my life. Where 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:13.000 I was coming home, I was watching TV. I was 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:18.040 laying on the couch and eating good food and and 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.280 I and all of a sudden, I felt like I 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.640 was I was losing a little bit of that inspiration 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.600 in that drive, that kind of So I called Brett, 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.480 who is my publisher, HTT James, who's written a million hits. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.280 And he Brett had bought this old house that was 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.400 built in the like mid eighteen hundreds. It's one of 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.640 the last remaining ones down there Music Road where they're 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.160 building all this stuff arounds behind Losers, that that one 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:45.280 old building with the black iron gate, and it's the spooky, ist, 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.000 erious dark. Everything about that place is not where you 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.680 want to live. But it's great for writing. And I've 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.800 written almost the entire up all night record in that house. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.920 And there were there's a room upstairs. It's just this 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.120 It's awful. Man, that's a really tiny little box. Men, 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.480 it's a lot smaller than this room. And I called 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.280 him and said, hey, man, I want to move into 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.160 that room and I want to write my next record 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.280 in there, you know, in in in the house again, 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.280 you know. And so I moved all my stuff into 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.000 that room, was crammed in there, and I was I 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.240 slept on a on a twin bed for about for 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.080 about two years, and the hot water heater didn't work, 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.440 so I took cold showers every morning and that was 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.440 like thirty seconds in and out. So my when I 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.320 would go on the road, it was like heaven in 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.520 an arena, like a shower and arena. It was like 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.040 I got hot water, you know, so but I would 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.440 I wrote almost the whole Wild One's Record for the 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.880 most part. In that house. There was no furniture. There's 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.840 no um, and there's a there's a couple like random 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.280 like regular chairs and not chairs like this, and you've 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.840 got no TVs. It's all and it's crazy haunted. I 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.840 got haunted stories that would blow your mind, which finally 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:53.720 ran me out. And I got a place because it 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.920 was so scary at night, so you didn't want to 0:08:57.920 --> 0:08:59.880 be comfortable. What do you think that comes from? What 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:03.240 are you think the root of that is? Hey? Do 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:08.920 you create better from sadness? I feel like I at 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.640 that time in my life, and I've learned how to 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.200 just channel a different side of me where I don't 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.120 I don't I don't quite need that as much, but 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.000 I still I live I live very very moderate on purpose, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.839 like I have a tiny little house on the other 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:26.600 side of town, and um, I don't really have any things. Um. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:31.160 I tried, but I felt like for me, it played 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.280 a trick on my mind where I still felt like 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.600 I was at the bottom where I feel like I 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.280 write better out of desperation. So it you know, taking 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.199 culturewers every morning, sleeping on that twin bed, which I hated. Man. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.560 I had an old junk mattress. It was, it was, 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.000 it was awful, man. Uh, but it just it played 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.880 a trick on me to where I still felt like 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.760 I was completely broke and trying to go after something. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.720 And I've kind of learned how that that I don't 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.880 need that as much now. Um. But I still like 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.160 when I travel, I like stay in hostels. Um. We 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.800 just did that whole backpacking through Ice and you know, 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.400 staying in the hostels, and um, I do that when 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:11.120 I go to MAUI sometimes Costa Rica. Um. And I'll 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:12.599 write a lot of music when I'm out there like that, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.000 and I'll meet interesting people, and I don't you know, 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.480 it's almost get uncomfortable. Like I though I'm around from 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.920 in the fourth seasons, I'm uncomfortab around those people. They're fine, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.360 they're nice, they're get I get uncomfortable around that kind 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:30.080 of setting, really fine dining and luxurious rooms, Like it's 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.000 a weird thing. Man for me, you talk about the 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.760 place being haunted. We've talked about this a bit, but 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.000 you're convinced, like it's not maybe it was a ghost 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.080 to you. It's not maybe there's no there's no there. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.120 This is I'm probably about to get off on a 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:51.480 weird place here. Um, for me, it could have also 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.439 been I was. I was not in a good headspace 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.000 at all. Um, I wasn't. I wasn't a really weird 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.520 I've already written like a whole second project that pretty 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.200 much got shell of the label. They were like, we 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.800 don't have radio stuff here. This is too as you 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.640 this is to this, this is too And that's heartbreaking 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.480 is as a writer and artist and you turned something 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.200 in And I try to explain that to a lot 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.520 of people sometimes too. Where my old jobs there was 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.520 a beauty and just going to work, doing the job, 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.400 going home kind of having that mindless feel of Okay, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.480 now I can devote this other part of my time 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.880 to a girlfriend or whatever kind of thing or family 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:32.000 or I was present when I would leave work and 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.400 you know, with this job, you're even yours, You're you're 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.160 constantly on judgment for everything. I don't I wouldn't trade 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.640 my job or anything, but it's your it's a constant 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.560 state of judgment. And Um, that was a hard thing 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.680 to turn in something I was so passionate about, which 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:51.280 I hope sees the life of day one day. Um. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:57.559 But I was in a bad, bad place. And I've always, 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.040 um had a heart for God. And I'll say that openly, 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:05.000 like I've always been really connected with God, even even 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.040 when I'm not reading, even when I don't go to church, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.440 I just always I know that God is always with me. 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.560 And I've usually been pretty good about reading scripture going 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.559 to church. And you know, I just go by myself 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.560 at night or going Tuesday nights or whatever. I'm sitting 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.679 in the back and I leave and I stay connected. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.640 And at that time I was really I wasn't connected 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.320 at all. And it wasn't that I was out, you know, 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.640 doing blow all night and stuff like. It was just 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.680 I was I was completely separate, and I was in 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.920 a bad dark place. I could barely get out of bed. 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:39.319 I felt like a lot of mornings. Um, And uh, 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.400 maybe I was susceptible too, because I believe there's about 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.280 a good and evil all the time going on around 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.160 and maybe I was at that time of my life 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:53.599 really susceptible to that entity tricking with my mind. I 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.319 don't know, but I can tell you the stuff that 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.680 went down that house. I mean, it would be you know, 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.720 clear's day. I go down and get a drink of water, 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.880 and and the garbage disposal was underneath the sink. You 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.520 have to flip the switch, turn it on, and I 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.640 will be walking off on that thing with bag cut 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.880 back off. I turn around, I look and all the 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:15.679 hairs be up in my arm. And I walked back 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.959 off and would just go old house. That's what I 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.120 would say. If I be like old house, like, I 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.160 would look up underneath the switch is still off. I can, 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.400 I can. I got a million of those. There was 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.840 a there's a pantry and it used to have a 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.320 hole in the floor, and I'm the only one there. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.439 And I would at night, you know, late at night, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.480 you know, I go in, maybe get get a snack 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.360 out of the pantry, and I look and the basement, 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:42.679 the basement was a spooky spacement. Ever, but the light 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.040 would be on underneath the pantry foollboard, and I'd be like, 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.160 I know I cut that off. I know that wasn't on. 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.240 I was in here last time, cut it off. Come 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.920 back this morning. Thing was on. You have to flip 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:54.719 the switch on the turn it off. I mean a 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.440 short if the if the switch is off, you're not 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.720 gonna get a short like it's not you know so. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.960 But the kicker was I'd be laid in my bed 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.440 and it's happened about three times. And on the second time, 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.160 I told my manager said, hey, to me, a favorite 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.440 look from your place. And this happened as I really 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.640 settled into the house and was living there. I've been 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.679 writing songs there for four or five years and people 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.840 have had little stuff happened. But the minute it was 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.400 like I moved in there at all, kind of started 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.480 building up and it was almost like they were going like, oh, buddy, 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.400 you got dried, you got to get you know so. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.440 But I can remember laying there in bed about three 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.760 and it always happened close to three o'clock. I remember 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.480 laying there and that my bed and I don't know 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.760 what grenades sound like. I got no clue, but it 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.760 would be like us being this room and it sounds 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.240 like somebody's just setting grenades off all through your house, 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.880 and it would sound like five people decided on the 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.600 count of three, we're gonna raise as much as hell 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.680 as we can, and every it sounded like. And I 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.480 was in a tiny room and it sounded like there 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.680 was a fist on every inch of the wall on 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.680 all around me, just slamming and banging. And you can 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.920 imagine waking up to that feeling like the fear of 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.040 that first of all, feeling like someone's break into your house. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.400 The second of all, this is a whole another bag, 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.840 to the point where my bed was physically shaken, like 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.000 there's like the house the foundation was almost shaken. My 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.840 bed was moving, and I wake up and I would 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.360 come to and it would last for three or four 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:26.280 seconds as I had woken up, and the fear behind 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.160 that man was just and I would try to just 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.240 I pray and be like, I'm not gonna let this 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.680 bother me. I'm good, and I eventually lay back down. 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.800 And it happened about three different times. I had a 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:39.840 broom from me to you, sweeping ten solid seconds to 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.680 where I just sat up, and I mean every hair 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.320 and I just kind of I know, I'm not hearing 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.760 a broom beside me right now, and I lay back down. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.600 After it would stop, I lay back down and it 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.440 would start right back up. And I even like sat 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.880 up in my bed. I cut the lights on, and 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.560 I said at one point and said, hey, look clean 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:02.400 all you want. I said, this place he's cleaning. I'm 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.360 I'm good with you. You can clean all you want. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.680 Not I laid back down, but I was scared to death. 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.480 But I was trying to get myself calm. But you know, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.120 that might have been a whole another thing. Man, that 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:19.240 could have been I don't know. I mean, to me, 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:20.960 it was a ghost, but it could have also been 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.200 what I was talking about earlier. I'm not sure. I 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.640 still don't know what that was. So you moved. But 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.760 and that hasn't happened since. No, I mean, I've barely 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.640 been back in there since. 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All right, So here's something I learned from you. 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.600 I guess probably eight months or so, you and I 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.800 met for breakfast and you were singing in the morning. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.359 I know that was a thing. Yeah, I was like, 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.359 why are you singing in the morning, You're like my 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.919 low end, it's best for my low end. No idea, 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.080 that was even the thing. So explain that to me 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.639 and to people who have no idea about the recording 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.840 process and vocals, you know. And once again that was 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.320 for me that that's kind of a thing for me 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.760 is and the first thing in the morning before I've 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.000 I've been talking a lot or singing because I sing 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.040 like all my own harmonies on this record two. So 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.560 you have to use a whole different You've got to 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:43.720 really stretch that high end. And once you've burned that 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.800 high end a whole lot, you know, you're singing for 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.040 an hour straight. That low ends just kind of it's 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.199 still there. I mean I was just I kind of 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.359 naturally have a deeper voice, but it's the width and 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.320 you can feel it on the mic, you can feel 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.560 it in the control room. The width that I have 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.560 in the morning is just different I have late at night. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.760 Once I'll burn that out, and it's just that's just me, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.080 just kind of learning from singing, you know, doing so 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.320 many demos throughout the years and being like, man, my 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.879 voice just in the morning, it feels like there's a 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:17.399 whole different width to it. And maybe that's become a 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.280 psychological thing too, but I just feel I feel really 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.919 strong getting the most width out of my voice in 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.960 the morning. Do you feel like you sing better in 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:31.800 the shower? I wonder if legitimately great singers feel like 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:33.879 they even sound better in the shower. I feel like 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.800