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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're trying to ignore that

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Speaker 1: draft buzz, but it's hard out here.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. We're only two days away from the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: I'm here in my garage in front of a painting

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Speaker 1: of my dead turtle rest in peace, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Joined across the country. Bye. My friend Josh Norris of Underdog.

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Speaker 1: We've had him on for years back with the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast from Brooklyn, doing great work with Underdog course,

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Speaker 1: working with Dan and Mark over there and putting out

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Speaker 1: a lot of great YouTube content. Josh, I've been enjoying

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Speaker 1: all your videos. Are you Are you ready for this draft?

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Speaker 1: Have you crammed enough?

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Speaker 3: Nope? I am not.

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Speaker 4: You and I were talking about this that you know,

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Speaker 4: I could go on for another three weeks, and Daniel

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Speaker 4: Jeremiah just put out a prospect at one twenty three

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Speaker 4: overall that I've never even heard of, so I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to get a single look at him. But here

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Speaker 4: I am sitting in my draft dungeon, and I'm the

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Speaker 4: opposite of you. Give me all the buzz, give me

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Speaker 4: all the dms. Yeah, give me all the rumors that

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Speaker 4: you want. My messages are open. I wanted all fans.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can do that, and you could have actionable

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Speaker 1: things that you take away from it with your mock drafts,

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Speaker 1: which you famously had the best one in the country

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Speaker 3: Just ever, ever, not just the country, ever ever.

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Speaker 1: With gambling, you know, underdog and whatever you want to do,

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Speaker 1: whatever is going on, I'm not allowed to do all that.

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Speaker 2: That all makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But what I would caution is, I feel like you

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Speaker 1: need to be someone like Josh or you know, to

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Speaker 1: pat myself on the back of someone like myself who

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Speaker 1: has all day to be going through this and sifting

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Speaker 1: through kind of the connections and the what's a coincidence,

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Speaker 1: what you can and can't trust, what, what are some

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Speaker 1: things that are collating, what you can just throw out and.

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Speaker 2: Totally who has time for that?

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Speaker 1: For the most part, I think if you completely ignored

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Speaker 1: what was going on from Monday, let's say morning throughout

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Speaker 1: with that, you might be fine Thursday. It starts coming in.

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Speaker 3: Two thoughts.

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Speaker 4: One, I hear a lot of people this week, especially

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Speaker 4: say all of the news that comes out as just

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Speaker 4: smoke screens. Now I almost want to do a one

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Speaker 4: to eighty from that, I think it's the opposite because

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Speaker 4: the last two weeks are when, as you know, the

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Speaker 4: scouts come in for all these meetings. Then they get

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Speaker 4: the medical information and take guys off the board, and

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Speaker 4: then I think the most dangerous thing for these front

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Speaker 4: the board is stacked, and then another five six days

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Speaker 4: waiting until unleash that until the NFL draft they have

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Speaker 4: I think some of this that does get leaked actually

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Speaker 1: Yes, but there are also consensus opinions that form, like

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Speaker 1: Will levis going, you know top three that lasted until

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Speaker 1: Wednesdays ridiculous, you know what I mean, where where it's

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Speaker 1: but we will go through a couple of little items

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Speaker 1: like I've almost given out my all my like draft opinions.

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Speaker 1: If you go back in NFL daily, they're out there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I have anymore. But first we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about potential trade candidates. This is this

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Speaker 1: show I've wanted to do the whole time, and we

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Speaker 1: hadn't gotten to it yet. And Josh, I usually have

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Speaker 1: you on for your your draft nuggets and your tape

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Speaker 2: You do a great job, but this you know you're

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Speaker 2: from road A World. You graduated. How many years ago

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Speaker 4: I was probably there for eight years, so even was

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Speaker 1: A lot of successful graduates from from road A World

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Speaker 1: the details that on draft night we will be going

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Speaker 1: send out a link for that.

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Speaker 2: You can save it.

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Speaker 1: You can join me, you can join Patrick Claybon, you

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Speaker 1: can join Steve Weisch heavy hitters on Draft Night, and

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Speaker 1: we'll be doing draft shows obviously throughout the week after

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Speaker 1: after Friday Night as well.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna be live Friday night.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Gosh, Greg, I hate to say this, and

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Speaker 4: I want to know this. You and I will be

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Speaker 4: Draft Night competitors then, because we will also be going

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Speaker 4: and so I'm glad that you were my foe in

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Speaker 4: that regard.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can watch us live and you can

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Speaker 1: catch Josh the next day or the opposite.

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Speaker 2: It will still be there.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go through and let's organize these potential

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Speaker 4: Oh, and you know these trades are important because you know,

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Speaker 4: Randy Moss was traded during the NFL Draft, and then

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Speaker 4: these things happen, and usually they're quite bargains, and oftentimes

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you went right off the bat with speculative.

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Speaker 1: I'm going more with just guys that have said they

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Speaker 2: To me that he'd be giving up on his own guy.

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Speaker 1: But I could totally see that, and I think there's

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Speaker 4: And you know, you remember that team because they beat

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Speaker 1: Man, if that's all you're getting, I don't think they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe like a late compensitive best friend or yes, uh,

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Speaker 1: going Jalen Ramsey. I just think when he made that

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Speaker 1: vibes than Chris Greer at his pre draft press conference.

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Speaker 2: And it seems like they're on the same page here.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Raiders and the Falcons, who have

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Speaker 1: the two, and that he had spoken Jordan Rodriguez the

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Speaker 2: Has mentioned that he's talked to Raheem Morris.

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Speaker 1: About possibly moving to safety in the past, So that

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Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to me. But the Raiders,

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Speaker 4: You and I even exchanged texts on you know, these

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Speaker 4: I think that this team has kind of not maxed

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Speaker 1: Yep, I think he could get replaced by It could

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Speaker 2: They need a tight end.

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Speaker 1: Shane Stiken is there, and if you are willing to

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Speaker 2: Much for Dallas Goddard right now.

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Speaker 1: I you know, whatever it is, some move up to

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Speaker 3: That could happen. Can I throw another team at you?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 4: And it's it's the Patriots, Like I don't think Josh

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Speaker 4: He literally walked in the door in round two and

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Speaker 4: we're taking Lance Kendricks because he wanted Josh Matanos. I

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Speaker 4: seen him at basically every single stop invest in the

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Speaker 4: Like I still think Hunter Henry has game left in

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Speaker 4: him and Austin Hooper is the vetan that they resigned.

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Speaker 4: But I think at the very least we get one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it just seems more likely that it

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Speaker 3: Didn't They doubled dip a couple of years ago too.

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Speaker 4: It was like Dalton Keene and whoever the u CLA

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Speaker 1: The Belichick last draft classes, like the last three.

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Speaker 3: Here, they all blurred together.

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Speaker 1: They were rough, and they did not work out. But

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Speaker 1: you're right, they double dipped and didn't get anything out

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Speaker 1: of it. But a lot of cursed images and names

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Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of stories I'll go into another time.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: So I only had four players that I wrote down

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Speaker 1: Alexander is not going to be on this team, that

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Speaker 1: they have no interest in having him, that it's gotten

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Speaker 1: don't have any logical landing spots. For him, but he's

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Gyr Alexander story arc has been fascinating.

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Speaker 4: Been some really odd on field stuff where he like

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Speaker 3: I think right.

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Speaker 1: He's also he's not young anymore now like age age quick.

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Speaker 1: I do not think of him as a young player.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see, but he's a good player that should

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Speaker 4: Who else he got, I mean mine might be a

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Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'm glad because I don't even know

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Speaker 4: But whoever lands with Liam Cohen in that running game

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Speaker 4: He was billed as this big play artist coming out

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Speaker 4: of Clemson with Trevor Lawrence. I think injuries have kind

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Speaker 4: And so we'll try to recoup whatever assets we can there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's have our Genty conversation now, because I think

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Speaker 1: You also heard some like, hey, bris Hall is not

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Speaker 1: to listen to John spy Tech. It's the only sound

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Speaker 1: for today here, Josh, we're going to listen to spy

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Speaker 1: Tech at his pre draft press conference right now.

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Speaker 5: I don't try to devalue any certain position. I mean

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Speaker 5: there's times in games where there's there's nobody you'd rather

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Speaker 5: have than the best kicker in the league, too, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean in that moment.

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Speaker 3: So there's certain.

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Speaker 5: Ways to build a team, and I just I don't

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Speaker 5: feel like running backs are value. I come from University

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Speaker 2: Josh, what do you think this was?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Worthy of second in the Stack on ESPN dot com

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Speaker 1: over the weekend?

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Speaker 2: The news was so late.

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Speaker 4: The most telling phrase from that presser with Pete Carroll

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Speaker 4: be careful with this one. Pete Carroll freaking loves the

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Speaker 4: draft game, okay, and him saying that and maybe this

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Speaker 4: less likely they take Ashon Gent. Pete Carroll is the

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Speaker 4: type that in previous years with the Seattle Seahawks would

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Speaker 4: this was a misdirection that people took as, oh, we're

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Speaker 4: the opposite way. I would be shocked if the Raiders

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Speaker 1: Overall this point, I know we've all been on this

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Speaker 1: Gent to the Raiders thing for so long now that

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Speaker 1: it makes me wonder, is this telegraphed?

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Speaker 2: And so why would that.

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Speaker 1: Tom Pelisara is on NFL Network on Monday morning saying

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Speaker 1: that Genty could potentially be a trade up candidate, and

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Speaker 1: so are the Jaguars letting this be known behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes that they're into Gent because they don't want teams

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Speaker 1: trading up for Gent with the Raiders. Are the Raiders

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Speaker 1: just doing this the whole time? Who really would trade

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Speaker 1: up for a running back? Or have we gotten that

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Speaker 1: far that running backs are back?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, hell trade up with the Patriots?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The Bears were mentioned and have been buzzed about as

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Speaker 1: a potential team that could could trade up to take

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Speaker 1: Ashton Genty. The Saints are another team, weirdly, even though

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Speaker 1: they just gave Alvin Kamara a ton of money, they're

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Speaker 1: the Saints and they're just bizarre. Another team that could

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Speaker 1: be in on Ashton Genzy. I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: all the way there that a team is going to

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Speaker 1: trade up for a running back, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: see it, even him. But maybe that's why the Raiders

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Speaker 1: are putting this out there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You follow the Saints closely. Think about all those years

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Speaker 4: when Sean Payton was there, when he like finds a

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Speaker 4: target in round one, whether it be you know, Marcus Davenport,

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Speaker 4: I know these are different pillar positions. He'll move up

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Speaker 4: for him. He did it in his first draft when

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Speaker 4: they barely had any picks to go get Marvin Mems.

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Speaker 4: I believe at like the end of yeah, round two, Like,

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Speaker 4: is it a ridiculous thing to suggest that the Broncos

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Speaker 4: can move up from twenty to eight or twenty to

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Speaker 4: six or twenty to seven or any of those spots.

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Speaker 1: And maybe the price wouldn't be as much. You're not

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Speaker 1: trading a quarterback. The class isn't quite as good. So

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Speaker 1: the Broncos have been mentioned by Adam Schefter as a

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Speaker 1: potential trade up candidate just about the only one. But okay,

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Speaker 1: that's our gent fallout. Quickly, a couple other names that

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Speaker 1: could be traded. One that I think as fairly likely

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Speaker 1: is George Pickens, and it hasn't gotten like a ton

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Speaker 1: of pop. But since since my podcast co host Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: threw that out there, I've just been thinking, yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: this does seem like a two part move. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know who takes on George Pickens. It's sting

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Speaker 1: a buyer, beware, considering what happened with him. It's his

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Speaker 1: last year of his conduct. You're not gonna get much

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Speaker 1: for him. But you know, the teams that are needy

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Speaker 1: of a wide receiver, the Patriots certainly come to mind.

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Speaker 1: The Browns have been willing to just take chances on

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Speaker 1: guys not not care about anything other than are they

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Speaker 1: good on the field or not. The Panthers need a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver the ring, but would they.

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Speaker 4: Do that right after the Deontay Johnson deal, after Mike

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Speaker 4: Common and company being okay to let someone leave and

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Speaker 4: then you trade basically nothing Dante Jackson for Deontay Johnson

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Speaker 4: and then he doesn't even make it, you know, halfway

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Speaker 4: through the season.

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Speaker 1: I mean Dante Jackson started for the Steelers, it ended

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Speaker 1: up kind of being a nothing burger for for both teams.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders certainly need a wide receiver. Maybe they would

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Speaker 1: take a chance on him, but he's in the last

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Speaker 1: year of his contract.

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Speaker 4: That's one I can definitely see George Pickens in silver

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Speaker 4: and black, can't you, Like that's almost predestined at this right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they be into Michael Mayer because it's kind

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Speaker 1: of gotten lost in the shuffles. Another Raiders kind of

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Speaker 1: put it out there that Michael mayor their second tight

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Speaker 1: end who that could be a Patriots target too.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned then possibly trading for.

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Speaker 4: Kyray Wilson's another one from the Raiders too that's being

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Speaker 4: mentioned as well, Like this is someone who was just

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Speaker 4: draft in the top ten and hasn't produced at all

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Speaker 4: because of injuries in the NFL, and it seems like

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Speaker 4: they're picking Michael Koontz ahead of him, who missed all

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Speaker 4: of last season as well.

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Speaker 3: So that's just an has been a bust.

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Speaker 1: Michael Mayer's looked like an NFL player when he's been

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Speaker 1: out there, so I would think he would have a market.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine Tyree Wilson would have much. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's fresh in my mind because my son Walker

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Speaker 1: was watching old drafts on the Roku channel over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: He's got the sickness, he really does, and we did it,

523
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Speaker 1: did an exercise or he does it, but he then

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Speaker 1: he checks with me afterwards if I agree, like hit

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Speaker 1: miss or meh for for every pick and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: really know the defensive or offensive lineman once and he's like,

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Speaker 1: Tyry Wilson, that's that's a miss.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that's that's a miss.

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Speaker 1: I was like listening to the coverage and everything they

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Speaker 1: said after. I know that's only two years out, but

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Speaker 1: that's been a Hayden.

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Speaker 4: I always have this conversation, specifically around genty and I

533
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Speaker 4: don't want to bring it up here, but he's like, well,

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Speaker 4: you know, Jalen Carter is going to get a much massive,

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Speaker 4: much more massive deal than Bijon Robinson got. And I

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Speaker 4: was like, well, then the pick just ahead of Bejon

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Speaker 4: Robinson was Tyree Wilson. So it's not like you can

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Speaker 4: just take these pillar positions and they absolutely work, Like

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Speaker 4: I understand the contract values and the positional value and

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Speaker 4: all that type of stuff, but those guys miss at

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Speaker 4: the exact same time. So it's, uh, I think this

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Speaker 4: type of draft too, it might be a little bit

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Speaker 4: different on top of.

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Speaker 1: It, right, and maybe a better Colm because I kind

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Speaker 1: of had forgotten then he went sixth that draft was

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Speaker 1: Paris Johnson and so then that's one where it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think we hit. We hit, Like I said, that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a that's close to a hit.

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Speaker 3: I think tak K Johnson's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you take a tackle at six instead of

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Speaker 1: Bejohon Robinson, Where's I think you could reasonably debate like

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Speaker 1: which way to go, but like Bajon was a better

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Speaker 1: prospect certainly overall.

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Speaker 2: But I think the Cardinals are probably pretty happy.

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Speaker 3: Are we gonna get spicy Go Go. The one name

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Speaker 3: that keeps getting floated out there by multiple people's Jamison Williams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Deer, the other fifth year option guy

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Speaker 1: was mentioning or thinking about earlier.

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Speaker 4: Albert Breer brought this up this morning. I know others

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Speaker 4: have in recent weeks as well. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 4: it's a Jamison Williams give him extra money and extra

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Speaker 4: contracts and we're not sure how that's going to pan out,

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Speaker 4: or that we already have our assets allocated to a

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Speaker 4: whole bunch of situations, or is it Ben Johnson maximized

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Speaker 4: on what the talent that is Jamison Williams, where he

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Speaker 4: almost took over what Sam Laporta was doing in the

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Speaker 4: previous year. I know that they are very different body types,

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Speaker 4: but in the people just think of Jamison Williams as

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Speaker 4: these vertical nine routes stuff, and he definitely has those highlights,

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Speaker 4: but a lot of the production also came on these

571
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Speaker 4: crossing routes, like these short routes that these were runway stuff.

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Speaker 4: Get him up to speed and then he just rooms

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Speaker 4: around linebackers and secondary people with his four to three

574
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Speaker 4: whatever speed, And so that was a pivotal part for

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Speaker 4: them last year, but we also know what has gone

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Speaker 4: on kind.

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Speaker 3: Of the past two years.

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Speaker 4: Where I do it alerts me a little bit when

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Speaker 4: someone like this who was that impactful his best year

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Speaker 4: and he's already being mentioned as well.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a cell high and

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Speaker 1: I think it's the Lions getting out in front potentially.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think this would get out there unless

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Speaker 1: they were open to it. Of the assets being allocated,

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Speaker 1: as you mention in trading him high, like you still

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Speaker 1: have two years left on his contract when you have

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Speaker 1: that fifth year option, which for a player like him

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Speaker 1: is a good deal, that fifth year option, So you

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Speaker 1: have him cost controlled for two years for less than

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Speaker 1: two two at well is going to make over the

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Speaker 1: next two years, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And so that's a tract see Tommy Brown. You know,

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Speaker 2: but you also know we're.

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Speaker 1: Not going to give him market value because we have

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Speaker 1: these sort of people maybe because of how he's been

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Speaker 1: in the suspensions and everything like that, Like can we

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Speaker 1: get a pretty reasonable pick here or can we use

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Speaker 1: him to move up for our next star? That is

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Speaker 1: that is a really intriguing one. Yeah, that I noticed

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: A couple more.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to just fly through here and then we'll

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Speaker 1: take a quick break. Tyreek Hill, I still think that's possible.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's likely. I think it's possible. Mark

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Speaker 1: Andrews maybe to the Chargers. I feel like it's still possible.

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Speaker 1: Although Eric the Costa their GM pointed out when was

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Speaker 1: the last time we traded a veteran like during the draft.

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Speaker 1: Has that happened, So that's kind of been out there

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Speaker 1: and they I don't think that's gonna happen, and then

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Speaker 1: some lesser players will Will Levis, I think we'll end

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Speaker 1: up on another team, maybe the Steelers or Saints or Giants,

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Speaker 1: like whoever's Whoever's just out of quarterbacks. Sam howel Is on.

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Speaker 2: The markets, Drew Locke again.

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Speaker 1: We're getting and at the bottom of my li as

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Speaker 1: Drew Hendrickson, Trey Hendricks said, rather because I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to get traded, so I'll

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Speaker 1: just okay, I've got.

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Speaker 4: One more spicy name. Okay, one we even't heard about

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Speaker 4: this guy all offseason. Kyle Pitts isle Pits going to

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Speaker 4: be usable in Atlanta. No, he's their fourth fifth pass

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Speaker 4: catcher at best, now Kyle Pits has not been asked

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Speaker 4: to run like the gimme real tight end routes, and

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Speaker 4: now he's basically replaced as does he do the tight

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Speaker 4: end stuff on an NFL field. But if they are

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Speaker 4: going to get anything for Kyle Pits, I feel like

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Speaker 4: it is this offseason and this NFL draft if there's

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Speaker 4: someone and a team that is.

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Speaker 3: Still like attached to the draft grade that they gave him.

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Speaker 1: Teams love their draft grades, and that's that's part of

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Speaker 1: all of these values. It's why Will Levis will be

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Speaker 1: somewhere because they get attached to those draft grades. And

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pits doesn't have the best NFL tape. It's not

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Speaker 1: the worst NFL tape. That's not a crazy one either.

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Speaker 1: I do have some real long juts. Actually, let's hit them.

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Speaker 1: After the break. We'll be right back with Josh Norris.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get the players he's furthest from consensus.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get some more long shot possible trades, and

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Speaker 1: then a little bit of.

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Speaker 2: Draft buzz and we will send you on your way.

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Speaker 2: It is Draft week back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: It is Draft week, and we're talking about possible guys

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Speaker 1: who could get traded. So I went through like the

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Speaker 1: likely names, and Schefter throughout a bunch of possible names

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Speaker 1: that are in their rookie contracts that to me are

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Speaker 1: just not relevant enough to you know, no shade, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just to have like long con discussions about. But Evan

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Speaker 1: Neil and Jalen Hyatt of the Giants, Trailon Burks, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned Tyree Wilson, Kayshawn Booze. I'm like, you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: something for Booty, who's actually, you know, an NFL player.

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Speaker 1: Adafayoa actually was an interesting guy that he threw out

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Speaker 1: there as guys on their rookie contract who's he's been okay,

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Speaker 1: So him throwing those names out there is not nothing.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm gonna throw out some other long shots,

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Speaker 1: AJ Brown has been dismissed by Schefter, by other people,

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Speaker 1: So stop thinking it's going to happen. Patriots fans for

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Speaker 1: some reason thinks AJ Brown was somehow going to go

657
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Speaker 1: to them. It's never gonna happen. Jeffrey Simmons is one

658
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Speaker 1: that's been thrown out. Oh yeah, I feel like that.

659
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: I feel like that's more of a long shot. But

660
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Speaker 1: the thing is, I don't think you're going to get

661
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: enough for Jeffrey Simmons. And this is true for most

662
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: of these veteran types of guys, where if they're at

663
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Speaker 1: on the team at this point in the offseason, they're

664
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Speaker 1: probably going to stay there. And so I would include

665
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Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers, James Cook, really any of the Browns starting cornerbacks.

666
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 1: They've got three of them, and like if Martin Emerson

667
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: or Denzel Ward or Gregg get you excited, Like I

668
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: don't think they'll get traded, but they're possible. And then

669
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Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, if they're not picking up his fifth year option,

670
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Speaker 1: I think he would have some value out there. Our

671
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: guy Ali Connolly thought he played like an all Pro

672
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: last year, that he really took a huge third year

673
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: leap that not a lot of the media has noticed,

674
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Speaker 1: I think except for in Jacksonville. So maybe he'd be

675
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Speaker 1: another guy. But those are some just surprise long shots.

676
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about your players. Josh, that you

677
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: think you're further from consensus than any other so you

678
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: do a great job. And I really recommend everyone check

679
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Speaker 1: out Josh Norris and Hayden's YouTube page, which has like

680
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five thousand followers shout out.

681
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: To we're only going to have like forty six prospect profiles,

682
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 4: but yeah, we have about eight to fifteen minutes on

683
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Speaker 4: the positives, the concerns, the underlying metrics, and then some

684
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: player comparisons for all these guys on quarterbacks, wide receivers,

685
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: tight ends, running backs, all that stuff.

686
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: It's the right balance between diving deep but not too deep,

687
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

688
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: It's like it's perfect. It's not just two minutes on

689
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: the guy. You want more.

690
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: You want to really learn something, but you do it

691
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: in a really concise, entertaining way.

692
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

693
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: So you focus on the skill position guys, so I

694
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Speaker 1: know it'll come from those guys. Who of those guys

695
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: are you furthest from consensus.

696
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to lead off with Trevion Henderson out of

697
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: Ohio State, who I have my running back too in

698
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: this class, and I know a lot of people are

699
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: expecting that to be a Marion Hampton. It might be

700
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Speaker 4: he might even go round one.

701
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Oh, he might go to I think I think Trayvon

702
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: Henderson might go top ten. I don't think it's that

703
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: crazy that he would go to there.

704
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I.

705
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: Have a heavy investment on a Marion Hampton over nineteen

706
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 4: and a half, so we can all be rooting for

707
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: that Trevion Henderson, though I think the Broncos at number twenty.

708
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: When you think of where the draft will be when

709
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Speaker 4: they're able to pick again at number fifty one, there's

710
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 4: like a grand canyon of picks, and then there's no

711
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 4: one that, to me, can do what Trevon Henderson does

712
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: after he goes off the board. And from that, I mean,

713
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: I guarantee you every single play caller, often as a

714
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: coordinator that watched him left saying I would want that

715
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: guy in my team because he changes the fabric of

716
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: an offense. He's an explosive player who is also arguably

717
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: the best pass protecting running back in this class. And

718
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: you can find guys who or one of either of

719
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: those sides, but rarely does it become that he's like

720
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: a blend of the two. So he was a lead

721
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: workhorse for a while at Ohio State. Then they tried

722
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: to do the Detroit Lions running back room with he

723
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: and Quinnchhn Jenkins this year and he dropped about five

724
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 4: or six touches per game. But I'm just in love

725
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: with what he brings to an offense and how he

726
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: changes it now, and how the league is all about

727
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: creating explosive plays in the running game because they're so

728
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: difficult to achieve in the passing game.

729
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: Now too great on passing downs and explosive is a

730
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: great combination in a great blocker.

731
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Speaker 2: He just didn't.

732
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: I didn't get there some vision moments as a runner, Yeah,

733
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: he didn't. I don't feel like I'm that far from

734
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: consensus on a lot of these guys, and I think

735
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: it's probably because I'm nagging this entire draft class, because

736
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: I generally I generally watch like the first round guys

737
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: as much as I can, and then beyond that for

738
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: the skill positions because it's just more fun and you know,

739
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: and I just I could I almost could feel that

740
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: some of these guys are getting pushed up, and Travon

741
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: Henderson was one of them for me where it's like, ouch,

742
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm not that excited. I mean as a runner, and

743
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: that's what I look for first, Like to me, Amari

744
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: and Hampton, I think is a really great prospect and

745
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: it would be getting even more love if Jent He

746
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: wasn't in this class.

747
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: And I do love me some Hampton.

748
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who i'd be furthest from consensus

749
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: at at running back. I do like Dylan Sampson, although

750
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: I think people like Dylan Sampson.

751
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: They do.

752
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he has different flavors, but it's more

753
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: than I just think that the top guys are great.

754
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 4: So the knox in Henderson, I'm not saying that this

755
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 4: is from you, is that he also like doesn't bring

756
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: power elements. I kind of disagree with that. There were

757
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: times when I thought that his when he knew the

758
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: run was going to end and there was like a

759
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 4: square defender in the lane, that he did try to

760
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 4: run through them. He was a lead blocker for his

761
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: quarterback and the against Penn State near the goal line

762
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 4: and just flat lined a dude. So if you want

763
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 4: to watch one game of his pass protection state is

764
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: that he is asked to do everything and you know,

765
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 4: pick out who's blitzing from where from multiple fronts, and

766
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: he does that exceptionally. So I think Trevan Henderson is

767
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 4: a guy that can be like a twelve to eighteen

768
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Speaker 4: touch runner and like almost take the career arc. I'm

769
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: not saying's Jamior Gibbs, but like what James Cook has

770
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: done over the past couple of years, where he went

771
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 4: from like, you know, twelve touches, then to fourteen to

772
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 4: slash sixteen touches and then grew into that inside the

773
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Speaker 4: ten yard line work too. And I think Trevian Henderson's

774
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 4: game can grow into that as well.

775
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, and it reminds me of James

776
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Cook coming out when he just looks so much like

777
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, and I swear I was like, isn't that

778
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: worth a lot? I was like, Everyone's like, he's eighty

779
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: percent Dalvin Cook. I'm like, well, that sounds great. Isn't

780
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: that gonna work?

781
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: Isn't the Cook? Isn't that gonna work? Yeah?

782
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: Trevion, I guess I have certain types. It doesn't doesn't

783
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: feel like he has as natural like a feel of

784
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: how to get five if you only blocked for three.

785
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: And I think those are my types of guys, which

786
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: are not. No, there's a lot of those class right.

787
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: It's like Devin Neil.

788
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 4: If you want one of those, like, let's just pair

789
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: Devin Neil and Trevoran Henderson together and we'll have a like.

790
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: Kyrin Williams types.

791
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: I tend to tend to like those types which are

792
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: maybe a little less a little less flashy.

793
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: All right, another guy, you're you're far from consensus.

794
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 3: I'll bring up two.

795
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

796
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: I have Colson Lovelin as my tight end one over

797
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren. And I don't think that Tyler Warren is

798
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: worthy of a top ten selection, even though he probably

799
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: goes in the top ten, because I know a lot

800
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 4: of teams absolutely love him. Uh And that's not to

801
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: like bury Tyler Warren is because I know a lot

802
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 4: of draft evaluators love him. He was the entire Pennstde offense.

803
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: But then they like geared everything around him, like the

804
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: wildcat stuff was like truly amazing. But I just think

805
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 4: for a position that is so traites based, like when

806
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: you look at tight ends, the Pro bowlers, the one

807
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: thousand yard receivers, that's a very small list. You have

808
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 4: to be an elite athlete. Eighty percent of those guys

809
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 4: are truly elite athletes, and we just like don't know

810
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: that of either of them, these guys. Right, But then

811
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 4: there's GPS tracking, there's also just using your eyes, and

812
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: I just think like Colson Loveland is just so much

813
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: more of an easy mover who offers like legit wide

814
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: receiver stuff as your in line tight end and also

815
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: does more than enough as a blocker onto it that

816
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: I think he is the superior tight end prospect than

817
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren.

818
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: I agree, and the arc I've talked about being a

819
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: little down on Warren, it's just it's just you can

820
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: see a player like him going really wrong that it

821
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: just doesn't work at all. And that's the thing that

822
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: I've I've had in my mind too much in this

823
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: draft process that you know, all these guys that we

824
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: talk about like half aren't going to work for what

825
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: the team is true, you know, and yet it's hard

826
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: to come up with You want to talk them all up,

827
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: but that's it's just the reality. And Warren is a

828
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: little more scheme dependent. And yet if if like he

829
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: faults the ten and Genti's off the board and the

830
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: Bears take freaking Tyler Warren, like they're gonna make that

831
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: thing work, like.

832
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Speaker 6: Totally, he is a unique runner of the mentality like

833
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 6: just just being a bully and a hammer like I

834
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 6: truly appreciate that from him, But I don't know if

835
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 6: that's like tight end skills.

836
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: He plays like George Kittle in ways, but he's.

837
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 4: Definitely not the athlete that George Kittle is and like

838
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: a difference maker in that regard in my opinion, and.

839
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: A lot of these guys, it's very tough.

840
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with the wide receivers, like none

841
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: of almost none of them block in a way that

842
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: NFL teams look at and you're like, already, I got

843
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: something great to work with. They all have to improve that,

844
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: and it's so important for the tight ends. But but

845
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: Warren is certainly in that category. I'll give you one

846
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: more if you have one that you want to you

847
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: want to throw out.

848
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: This is going to get me in trouble. This is

849
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 4: going to get me in trouble. I mean, I want

850
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: to see what Jalen Milroe becomes in the NFL.

851
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep big up in Jalen Milroe. I don't know.

852
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, And look, Kim Ward, I understand why he's going

853
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: top ten, right, that is absolutely happening. But when you

854
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: look at the Shador Sanders versus Jackson Dark debate, those

855
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 4: guys have obvious flags and flaws to their profiles. You know,

856
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 4: like Jackson Dart had total meltdowns in multiple games this

857
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 4: past season and he plays, in my opinion, maybe the

858
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 4: best organized and run offense in college football right now.

859
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 4: And Lane Kiffen, who has Hey, if we have single

860
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: high stuff, then we have these ball winners on the outside,

861
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 4: and then because of the spacing and two of those

862
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: guys outside the numbers, then the middle of the field

863
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: isn't a traffic jam like it typically is in the NFL.

864
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 4: So you can pick that apart. And then shad Or Sanders,

865
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 4: I think his game, and this is where he won

866
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: at Colorado was winning pre snap and winning post snap

867
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 4: with his brain. I think he's a really intelligent player,

868
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: but that offensive line was absolutely dreadful, and then the

869
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 4: environment led him to, you know, be this retreater in

870
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: the pocket. And I just think from a traits perspective,

871
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: I'm not that into Shadoor Sanders as a trades guy.

872
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 4: So like, if we bring those two red flag to

873
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: the table with those guys, sure, Jalen Milroe has his

874
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 4: flaws as well, but like it's not that dissimilar to

875
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: the ones that are being.

876
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: Mocked in the first round.

877
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: And he's a truly electric traits player, you know, So

878
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 4: I'm a bit there's a.

879
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: Good tap there if he had just got after the

880
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: Georgia game, whatever that was, like, was that like week

881
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: four when he was still flying. I think people would

882
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: view him differently. And there's good tape the year before,

883
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: and he's not perfect, but I'm with you, and I

884
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: was higher, I think than content. It's when I see,

885
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: like Jeff Legwell of VSPN did a top one hundred

886
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: board and Kim Ward was like eighteenth overall, and some

887
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: people don't see him like that. He's just getting pushed

888
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: up and I don't see that at all. I like

889
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: him a lot more than I like Piker or McCarthy

890
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: coming out to me, he is a guy that fits

891
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: in as a number one quarterback in a lot of

892
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: classes in a He's very similar to me, just in

893
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: like level that I would have him too, when Kyler

894
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: goes first or Baker Mayfield goes first, or you know,

895
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: darnold people love like I think there's a lot to

896
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: be excited about if if to me, the floor get

897
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: It's hard to say floor with these prospects, as you

898
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: never know, but I really think like I see a

899
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: Cutler type career worst case, and like I hate to

900
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: tell you that's number one overall pick worthy, Like if

901
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: you think that that guy is going to be worst

902
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: case that you get like the twelfth best starter in

903
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: the league, or some years he's the seventh best starter

904
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: in the league. Like, that's ass what's going to happen

905
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: in a quarterback draft? All right, those are your players

906
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: from consensus. Since we're talking shaudor all right, let's just

907
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: hit a couple of little items of the buzz that's

908
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: been out there. One from Schefter, and he put out

909
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on Monday that I think was interesting.

910
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: Because it's him.

911
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: First of all, I said, the Giants and the Browns

912
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: both tried to trade up to one, the Giants even harder,

913
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: and the Titans, you know, weren't really listening, which is

914
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: just interesting backstory. I think they saw cam Ward like

915
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: I did, like that he was clearly far and out

916
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: in a way the number one guy. But then with

917
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: shadur that the question is do the Giants take him

918
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: at three? That's sort of where the draft starts, and

919
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: Schefter's reporting indicates there's a divide in the Giants organization,

920
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: and it sounds like the divide is essentially Brian Dabeles

921
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: not into him, and the front office is like, hey,

922
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: can you really look at Shauduur, and that it's already

923
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: being put out there that no Shouldur wants to go

924
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: to a place where everyone's in on him, and they

925
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: almost know Dable's not in on him, and so I

926
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: have a hard time imagining that he will be a

927
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: New York giant, and Schefter smartly pointed out, look, they

928
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with JJ McCarthy, and they

929
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time looking at a lot of

930
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: the prospects last year that they didn't take either. So

931
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: I think he slips past and then he has information

932
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: that the Saints aren't necessarily that high on Shoulduur, that

933
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: they're looking up to move up from the second round,

934
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: maybe to take someone that they would already calls, right

935
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: that they've already made calls, and that would probably be

936
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: for Dart, although our friend Adam West at Saints Block

937
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: Party podcast that at one point that building was huge

938
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: on Milroe and so for the right price, maybe Milroe

939
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: is an option there as well, And so that would

940
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: lead you to believes should or maybe not as likely

941
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: to go nine. How do you pick apart all of this,

942
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: because I've thought that the Saints at nine were his

943
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: floor this whole time, and I might be wrong about that.

944
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to be too harsh, but it

945
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: kind of reminds me of that Will Levis draft where

946
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: I got to it the night before and then you

947
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: just like start crossing out and saying, this doesn't make sense,

948
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: this doesn't make sense. And I think I was the

949
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 4: only mock draft in the country that didn't have Will

950
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: Levis in the first round when at the end of it,

951
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: and it kind of feels that way now, I do think.

952
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: That's the one you had the best one in the country.

953
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: Or no, No, that was a different one. I did

954
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 4: terrible in that one. That was just a little Leves

955
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 4: draft for me.

956
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: That's it.

957
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 4: The twenty one to Pittsburgh. You know, I think Schefter

958
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 4: someone had mentioned that, you know, they didn't expect to

959
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 4: start the process, that Chador was a possibility. But then

960
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 4: maybe it's grown in that direction as they've gone along.

961
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 4: The window was just like so wide open here that

962
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: it's just so difficult to pin one down and it's

963
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: to the point where I believe someone is going to

964
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: have to make a move for him. If it's not

965
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: twenty one to the Pittsburgh of theirs, like they're the

966
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: only ones that sitting in their slot make the most

967
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: sense to draft him, and if not, someone will be

968
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 4: moving up, because, as we have talked about, at the

969
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 4: top of round two, you know you have Cleveland at

970
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: thirty three, Giants at thirty four, and then even some

971
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 4: teams that might be looking in the future, the Saints

972
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 4: obviously at forty, and then heck even like yeah, it's

973
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: it gets really interesting once you get into the second round.

974
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: Too, Saints. Saints aren't afraid to trade up.

975
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers would draft Shoulder if they fail

976
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: to if he failed to them, and I have a

977
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: feeling they would just sit there and wait, and Schefter

978
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: says strong consideration.

979
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 2: That's really interesting.

980
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: The other the other item from him that was interesting

981
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: that was that Kirk Cousins was, you know, on the

982
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: trade block, even though the Falcons have said they're not,

983
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: and that in initial talks about kirk Cousins, they were

984
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: asking teams to pay twenty million dollars of his thirty

985
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: seven million dollar salary, not moving off of that, and

986
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: that some teams would be willing to maybe pay which

987
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: no one's going to pay. Kirk Cousins twenty million and

988
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: a draft pick, I don't think. But he mentioned the

989
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: Vikings as one of the teams that would pay the

990
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: ten which is which is just delicious. And by the way,

991
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: was thrown out on the very first forties and free

992
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: agents back in February by Daniel Jeremiah that he heard

993
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: that that could be something even before free agency happened,

994
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: so he threw out I think he throughout the Giants

995
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: actually as another potential team that would pay ten million dollars.

996
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 4: I would I would be shocked if Kirk Cousins ends

997
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: back up with the Minnesota Vikings, just from a oh,

998
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: how do I want to put this a personality standpoint,

999
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: like those types of things are you have to be

1000
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 4: in control of the room, you know, and Kirk Cousins

1001
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 4: does not want to go back to an organization where

1002
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 4: he is going to be second federle to JJ McCarthy.

1003
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 4: And then at the same time, if they liked him

1004
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 4: that much, like there was a clear ending that we

1005
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 4: knew for a very long time what was going to

1006
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: happen between him and the Minnesota Vikings the last time

1007
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 4: he hit for agency.

1008
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: Well, they tried to pay him though, I mean they

1009
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,959
Speaker 1: tried to pay him way more than any other day.

1010
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: They were trying to pay three something million. I mean,

1011
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: now that deal looks good. They weren't trying to pay

1012
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: him as much.

1013
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: Very skeptical of that.

1014
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: Oh I like that all right.

1015
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: The other the other thing that I saw through out

1016
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: there that I found interesting Pete Schrager now over at ESPN.

1017
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: He always has a couple of good drafting nuggets, and

1018
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: he said hit the two names he thought would get

1019
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: drafted higher than people expect that he's heard from a

1020
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: lot of people were Michael Williams the Edge from Georgia,

1021
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: and then Colston Loveland from Michigan. And Loveland could go

1022
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 1: as high as seven. And to me that wouldn't actually

1023
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a surprise to me. But Michael Williams, that's

1024
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: an interesting name to me because he's a guy I

1025
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: struggled with when I did go back and watch, because

1026
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: it's just like people say, oh, he was hurt, and

1027
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, his his previous years he really

1028
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: wasn't much of a pass rusher either. So you're taking

1029
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: an edge that has no it's it's not just production.

1030
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: It's just like, I don't I don't see it, but

1031
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: he is a trades guy, and you love trades guys, Josh.

1032
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: Well he is.

1033
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 4: He's very young that system. Obviously you're working on the

1034
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: inside technique quite often. I wouldn't be shocked if Michael

1035
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: Williams is the pick at number eight to the Carolina Panthers.

1036
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: I think like they might prefer Jalen Walker, but to

1037
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 4: be honest, Michael Williams and just his body type kind

1038
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 4: of fits what they're doing along the defensive line a

1039
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 4: bit more. When you look at Gjeveon, Clowney, dj Wanam

1040
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 4: all the big, massive dudes that they have on the interior,

1041
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 4: Michael Williams at eight makes sense. Can I throw out

1042
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 4: my Peter Schrager He's going to go earlier there. I

1043
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 4: expect Playes Yes Gray's Abel, the intier offensive lineman from

1044
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 4: from North Dakota State. I would expect him to be

1045
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 4: drafted ahead of Tyler Booker out of Alabama. I wouldn't

1046
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 4: be shocked if we see Grays Abel to like the

1047
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: Indianapolis Colts or the Seattle Seahawks. He'll go somewhere in

1048
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: the teens. And okay, you know that that's an FCS prospect.

1049
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: But Grey's abel might be like one of the first

1050
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 4: intier offensive linemen.

1051
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: Off the board.

1052
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1053
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: For mine, it is just because he's probably the defensive

1054
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: player I'm higher on than consensus and maybe in the

1055
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: whole draft in terms of just I think he'll get

1056
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: taken higher than where his consensus board is is Walter

1057
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: Nolan and Breer throughout Albert Breer of SI throughout that

1058
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: he's in strong consideration for the forty nine ers at eleven,

1059
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: just because when I watched him, I thought in this

1060
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: class he seems the most likely to be like an

1061
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: Albert Hainsworth type of player. I don't know why I'm

1062
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: parrying him with another guy who, like people questioned his motor.

1063
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: Maybe that's but just like he could easily to me

1064
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: he could be the number one defensive player from this draft.

1065
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: So I just don't buy in this in this class

1066
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: where there's not a lot of premier talent, the good

1067
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: tape is so good that he just looks like one

1068
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: of those dudes.

1069
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 2: I just don't.

1070
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't buy when there's so few blue chips that

1071
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: all these teams are going to let him pass because

1072
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: he turned it on and off and there's some question

1073
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: about how much he loves football. It's like those guys

1074
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: get taken high all the time. If they've got great tape,

1075
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: and his great tape is great, it's probably greatter than

1076
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: just about anyone else that plays defense other than Travis

1077
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: Hunter in this class. So that one stuck out to me.

1078
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: I didn't mention, by the way, when we were talking

1079
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: Eagles and being smart and having their assets allocated, that

1080
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: Cam Jurgen's got a big contract since we last did

1081
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: a show, So congrats to him. We talked about that

1082
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: a few times on this show, that they're going to

1083
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: get him locked up. He's locked up through twenty twenty nine.

1084
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: They've now given a contract extension to four of their

1085
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: five offensive linemen in the last year alone. That includes

1086
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson who just had one year attacked on.

1087
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Speaker 2: But that's how.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty nine is a specific year where I believe

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Speaker 4: the TV deals and everything are up with the exact

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Speaker 4: send get.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles getting it done.

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Speaker 1: The Jets picked up the fifth year option that they're

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Speaker 1: going to for Sas Gardner, Garrett Wilson, and then the

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Speaker 1: interesting one was Jermaine Johnson, who's going to make about

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Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars so that they like what they've seen

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Speaker 1: out of Jermaine Johnson on tape. And then Ryan Ramcheck

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Speaker 1: has retired from the Saints. Just happy trails. That was

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Speaker 1: more of a procedural mood, but a guy who was

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Speaker 1: part of one of the best draft classes of the

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Speaker 1: last twenty five years, the best and yet it fell

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Speaker 1: apart quickly. But one of the best right tackles in

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Speaker 1: the league the minute he entered the league for about

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Speaker 1: five years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not because of Ryan Ramcheck but Saints and

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Speaker 4: it might not be quite to you, but I think

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Speaker 4: to the nation a quiet offensive tackle team, even after

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Speaker 4: taking one last year, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if one of the bigger picture questions

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Speaker 1: to me is how high the tackles go and in

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Speaker 1: what order. I don't personally believe that Will Campbell's gonna

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Speaker 1: go ahead of Membu because I just don't think it

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Speaker 1: makes sense that a guy that looks as talented as

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Speaker 1: meant like, I hope that's the Patriots pick at four

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Speaker 1: if they stick, stick and pick, and then I think

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Speaker 1: the gap between Campbell, if there even is one, and

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Speaker 1: the next Coleven Banks, like if it's Kelvin Banks or

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Speaker 1: Josh Simmons or whoever it's gonna be, Like, I just

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Speaker 1: feel some of these tackles are going to get pushed up,

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Speaker 1: so how high No.

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Speaker 4: I agree in a class that we've kind of been

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Speaker 4: talking about where you're not exactly sure what you're getting,

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Speaker 4: offensive line and defensive line will probably go very early.

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Speaker 4: I would Expectkevin Banks to be a top ten selection.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, and he's got some bad tape out there.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing with the tackle position in this

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Speaker 1: class especially, there's like five guys people like and then

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Speaker 1: there's a pretty big drop, so that's just going to

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Speaker 1: push everyone. That's why Josh Simmons from Ohio State, who's

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Speaker 1: maybe the biggest boomer Bus prospect in the class because

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Speaker 1: of motor because of injury to me if you told

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Speaker 1: me he went in the top ten ahead of Will Campbell, Like,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be surprised, Josh Norris Will, we'll be

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Speaker 1: covering it all and yeah, he'll be doing it at

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Speaker 1: the same time as Legal Live. You can you know

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Speaker 1: what split screen like this show enough to make it

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Speaker 1: to the end. Just put them both up. You can

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Speaker 1: put Josh on mute, but give him the view he

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Speaker 1: won't know the difference. Listen to us and it'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: Draft night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, m I put myself on mute. After that, we'll.

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Speaker 1: Say yes, only one more show to go until then, right,

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Speaker 1: is that right? Yes, we're going to be back on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Josh hit the music. We got Jordan Rodrieg.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do a mock draft. We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for you. Find We're gonna collect our two thoughts

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do a mock draft together. So that

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Speaker 1: will be up on Wednesday, and then yes, we'll be

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Speaker 1: live for the draft.

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Speaker 2: And you know what.

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Speaker 1: Voluntary mini camps started on Monday. The Jacks, the Bears,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. They're on the field. That means football.

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Speaker 2: It's back.