1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Okay, so we have 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: him here today. It's Brandon's bookie. It's the infamous Billy Vera. 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, American singer, extraordinary. Oh my god, you're here, Hi, Billy. 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: We're so excited. Hold on, I just want to remember 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: this moment. I remember it all too well. I'm telling 6 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: you when I I can't Family Ties that was like 7 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: this moment, uh huh, at this moment that was everybody 8 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: remembers that song that made that scene on Family Ties 9 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: like oh yeah, and nobody's happier than I am. That 10 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: lived on with a lot of cover versions you have. 11 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: Today was Tom Jones birthday, and so on my Facebook, 12 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: I always put whoever's birthday it is in music, you know, 13 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: and I'll put a you know, a song of theirs 14 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: or whatever. So when when it's Tom Jones's birthday, I 15 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: get to put his version of At this Moment or 16 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: Michael Hoy whoever did it most you know on their birthday. 17 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: That must be feel like such an honor to have 18 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: people cover your iconic song. It's it's it's great. You know. 19 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: I've been a professional songwriter since I was about nineteen 20 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: years old, and uh, I used to be a staff 21 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: songwriter at publishing companies. You know, they luck you in 22 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: a room and a little half a piano and and 23 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: you both comes in and tells you, Hey, Tony Bennett's 24 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: recording next week, can you come up with something for him? 25 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, whoever pressure you just knock him when you 26 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: knock him out, and you hope that they recorded, and 27 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: you hope it sells. You know, I got my best 28 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: was one of my favorites was Dolly parton what would 29 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: You Write for? Dolly? Song called I Really Got the 30 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Feeling and I went to number one on the country charts. 31 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: I was happy, Well, she's the nicest person you ever 32 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: want to meet. In case you never have, I would 33 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: love to meet Dolly Dolly either. Everybody loves the Dolly. 34 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: Every loves this song too. Everybody loves you. You've been, 35 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: like you said, doing this since you were knee high 36 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: to a grasshopper or lower. Well, you know, my parents 37 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: were in show business. You know, was an announcer on 38 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: NBC for about thirty years, and my mom was a 39 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: singer on the Perry Como Show. One of the background said, 40 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: no letters, we get letters. You know, one of those curs. Yeah, 41 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: how did your parents influence your career? Then? Do you 42 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: think I think just a professional you know, making me 43 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: more professional? Uh, because there's really if you're not if 44 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: you don't come from a show biz family, who's to 45 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: teach you, right, Who's just you know a little little 46 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: silly things. Of course, when I first started, first had 47 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: a hit record, I got booked at the Apollo Theater, 48 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, in New York, and it was the Apollo 49 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: was the pinnacle of black show business, you know, and 50 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: I was totally white guy. But a lot of the 51 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: old timers they would take it as their obligation to 52 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: to show you the ropes. You know, hey, kids, this 53 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: is how you make an entrance, this is how you 54 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: make an exit. You know, don't say this, do that, 55 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: And that's how you learn. I don't know, I don't 56 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: know how kids learned nowadays. Yeah, it's different now it's 57 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: not people aren't so supportive of one another. They're kind 58 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: of like you're on your own out there. Yeah, and 59 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: they make a record and the next thing, you know, oh, 60 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: now you got to go on stage. You know, you 61 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: gotta do an act. Whereas you know, in my day, 62 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: you you did a lot of time, you know, crummy clubs, performing, Yeah, 63 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: getting dressed in the bathroom, changing your clothing. Since your 64 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: career was mostly music in the beginning, what made you 65 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: want to start acting? That was not something I really 66 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: wanted to do. Uh. We were playing at the Troubadoor 67 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: every Monday night, you know, the first year I was 68 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: out here. And the fellow that was my songwriting mentor 69 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: was named Jim Taylor. He wrote wild Thing Agent. And 70 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: he had a brother who was an actor named John Foyd. 71 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: So one night John comes in with his acting coach, 72 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: David pro Vaal you might remember from the Sopranos and 73 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Main Streets, and and he comes. They come backstage. John said, 74 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, Billy, I've never seen a singer do what 75 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: you do up there. He said, you know, most of 76 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: these guys come out there and say, hey, hello, La, 77 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you feel happy, I'm gonna make you cry, 78 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you And you don't do that, he said. 79 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: He said, you you just get out there and lay 80 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: it out there and let them feel with nature tells 81 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: him to feel. He said, you know, he said, you 82 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: should be an actor. I said, oh, John, I don't 83 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: want to be an actor, man. You know, that's for 84 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: you guys. You know, because John was one of the 85 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: great actors of our time. In case you you've seen 86 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: him recently in the Ray Donovan, he kills anyway. So 87 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: he taught me to go into this class, David pro 88 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Ball's class, and I just against my will. And there 89 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: were two guys up on stage that night, Chris Moulkey 90 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: and a guy named Rocky Esaveria who became Stephen Bower. 91 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: And I said, oh, these guys are doing something that's real, 92 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, and maybe I'll see if I can learn 93 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: how to do this. And you know, it took me 94 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: a while to make the transition, but after a while 95 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: people started saying, Hey, you want to be on this show, 96 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: Hey you want to be in this movie, Hey you 97 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: want to be in this play. And I started doing it. 98 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: You know, Oh you are you are natural and he 99 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: knew it. I guess, you know. I think it coincided 100 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: with something I've been working on when I still lived 101 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: in New York. Um it was a concept I had 102 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: and I didn't know other people did this. So I'm 103 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: just saying, you know, I know how I've been doing 104 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: this for a while. I know how to make people 105 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: laugh and make them cry, and but there's got to 106 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: be more. You know, what what if what if I'm 107 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: doing a funny song on stage tonight, but my best 108 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: friend died this afternoon? You know? Do I have a 109 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: what's my obligation to be funny? Yeah? But it is. 110 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: Do I also have an obligation maybe to include somehow 111 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: my friend's death or that guy that cut me off 112 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: on the way to the club tonight, you know? And 113 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: and how can I combine all those things and and 114 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: and make it bigger than just getting out there and 115 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: singing in the song? You know? And so I was 116 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: working on that and then as low and behold. That's 117 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: kind of what David's class was teaching, you know, how 118 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: to how to do that, how to bring all of 119 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: the of your life experiences into the portrayal of whatever 120 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: it is that you're doing. Yeah, you know, like it's 121 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: like having a pale a painter and you've got all 122 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: those colors and there they are, you can use them, 123 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: choose which ones you're going to use, and that becomes 124 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: so relatable. You become real to the fans as well. Yeah, 125 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: they feel the connection on a deeper level. I think 126 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: when you performed in that place. Well, you know, that's 127 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: one of the things the old timers up at the 128 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: Apollo Theater told him. They said, you know, don't be 129 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: afraid to talk to him on stage. You know if 130 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: they if you talk to him, they'll get to know you. 131 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: And if they get to know you, they'll like you. 132 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: They like you, they'll come and see you next time. Yeah, 133 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: that's how it works. I guess. Yeah, I'm gonna go 134 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: back to your TV appearances and You've done so many 135 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: amazing things. But of course I have to ask because 136 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm a huge soap opera fan. You're on Days of 137 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Our Lives? Wait, did you play yourself on Days of 138 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Our Lives or did you play a character on Dave's 139 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: Uh No, we went on There's the Band. Yeah. We 140 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: did a couple of songs on Days and one of 141 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: my by myself with the band, and another one we 142 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: did a duet of an old hit I had some 143 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: years before, cool story with children that I sang it 144 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: with Gloria lor Oh wow, yeah, that's so cool to 145 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: be How about take us back though? How did you 146 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: get the role of Duke on Beverly Hills nine or 147 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: two on. Oh, I don't know. I guess I guess 148 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: I just auditioned maybe or maybe just somebody figured out 149 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, um, I can't he plays Thug of the Week. 150 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: You know, I think you were a little bit more 151 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: than Thug of the Week. I feel like you did 152 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: not audition. I feel like they want to eat in 153 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: that role, you know. As it turns out, Chuck Rosen 154 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: was my neighbor, Well there you go. Yeah, And I 155 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: don't think that I adn'ty going to do with it. 156 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: And I knew Chuck peripherally, you know, because I had 157 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: done some things for a friend that one of his 158 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: best friends, guy named Bobby Roth, another director, uh I, 159 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: and also sometimes the band had appeared in a lot 160 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: of Bobby's We were kind of like a stock company, 161 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, asked Jen. Do you think the character Duke 162 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: was named after Duke Fencent? My dad and my dad 163 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: had a right I'm sorry, So my dad had a 164 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: producing partner and it was his name was Duke, like 165 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: I called him Uncle Duke. At the time we were 166 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: doing the show, somebody said it was kind of a 167 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, an inside joke, and I always like inside jokes. 168 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: Was it fun to play a character like that, like 169 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: this kind of bad guy. Yeah. I like to play 170 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: bad guys, you know. Uh. And then poor Jason I 171 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: had to scare and you know, you had to rough 172 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: him up a little. I didn't hit him or anything, 173 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, I did, I did. I did a similar thing. Uh. 174 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: There was a movie called The Doors and I played 175 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: a promoter at the concert where Jim Morrison uh exposes 176 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: himself and the kid that played his manager, you know, 177 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: the Doors manager. I think he was Ally McGraw's son 178 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: or something like that. Anyway, so Oliver Stone said, look, 179 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: don't be don't be afraid to just beat him up. 180 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: So I made him cry a poor kids really and 181 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: and and Oliver Stone never never, you know, he kept 182 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: he wouldn't say cut. You know, he just kept going 183 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: a distant with this poor kid because I kept yelling 184 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: at him and calling them all kinds of vile names. 185 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: And you know, that was that was my part. That 186 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: was my job. You know. Oh my gosh, that makes 187 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: me really happy, because um, my parents were friends with 188 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: his parents and they were trying to set us up 189 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: and he didn't want to go out with me. So 190 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: his name is Josh. So thanks for thanks good, I 191 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: did it for you. Well, you know, you did a 192 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: great job as an actor, But you would have to 193 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: say that music was always your passion probably, right, Yeah, 194 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: that's my main thing, you know, singing songs and getting 195 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: up there on the stage and relating to the people. Yeah, 196 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, acting really was the sideline for the most part, 197 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: although there was a period there where the music wasn't 198 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: going so well, so I was actually making more of 199 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: a living acting than than singing it. Well, that's great 200 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: fallback then, right, Yeah, Well, you know I figured out 201 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: at one point that the age of specialization was over 202 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: m hm, you know, and and then that you that 203 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: I had to do as many things that I'm you know, 204 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: you're you're good at a number of things hopefully, so 205 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: if you do them all, you know, maybe this year 206 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: this one will do well, and next year that one 207 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: will do well and this one not so well, and 208 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: so combining them all you can make a decent living. 209 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: I like that. Diversify people. Yeah, it's a good message. 210 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: Modern rule of the show business. I need, we need 211 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: to diversify tour. We gotta work on that, like start 212 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: saving or dancing or I don't know, we can do 213 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: something fall back on. It didn't teach you to dance 214 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: in those days, they didn't. There was no training of 215 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: any kind like the studio system. They just threw out 216 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: there back in the thirties and the forties. They had 217 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: to do it. You had to do fencing and thing, 218 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, he taught you actual skills. WHOA like remembering 219 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: the old remember like look at all of us. Let 220 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: me take that again. Remember when you had an actual 221 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: printed resume, but at the bottom you would always have 222 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: it would be like special special talents or special interests, 223 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: and people would have like special skills, and people would 224 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: have like fencing and like gymnastics. Yeah, did you have 225 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: like dancing on their gen And like, what were your 226 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: special skills, Billy? Besides fencing and singing. One time I 227 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: had a I had in this movie called BUCKERUBONSI and 228 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: I had had to ride a horse. And I hadn't 229 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: ridden a horse since I was riding ponies as a 230 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: little boy. So I knew this actress that that she 231 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: was a good rider, you know, and she she took 232 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: me out and gave you some stuff. And not only 233 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: did I have to ride the horse, I had to 234 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: stand on him. Yeah, not a stunt double. No, not me, man, 235 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: you know important enough to have a stunt double, so 236 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: you had to do it? Was the horse moving? No, no, 237 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: you know what I got there in the ring room, 238 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: I said, Man, you know, I'm a little scared to 239 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: get it right. Of course I have only had a 240 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: few lessons. He said, don't worry about it. That these 241 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: are movie star horses. They won't let you fall. They 242 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: can They're trained to sense when you're about to, you know, 243 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: do this, and and they move. They know how to 244 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: move so that you won't fall. You can't fall, So 245 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: I didn't, Thank god, Oh my god, oh my goodness. 246 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: We would be remiss if we did not talk about 247 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: your song at this moment. And it's how it became 248 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: such an iconic symbol after it was featured on Family Ties. 249 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that we really talked about that enough 250 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: because it really had a huge impact on the world 251 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: and your career. Like what you what happened? How did 252 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: that go down? Well? Um, I had written this song 253 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: back when I still lived in New York, Uh, living 254 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: at my mother's as like a loser musician at age 255 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: and uh, when Dolly cut my song, I'm got an 256 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: offer to move out here and write songs for Warner Brothers. 257 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: And I had already written at this moment it had 258 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: come about. I had just I was I guess I 259 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: was thirty three at the time, and I had this 260 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: little twenty year old college girlfriend and she was telling 261 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: me about her previous boyfriend and how crushed he was 262 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: when he when she left him, and how destroyed he 263 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: wasn't just all this and I kind of started writing 264 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: it from what I perceived as his point of view. Wow, 265 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, and well, you know, it's like acting. You know, 266 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta write a song for a girl singer, 267 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: so you gotta you gotta be a girl for the 268 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: twenty minutes it takes you right there song, you know. 269 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: So anyway, Uh, I got about two thirds of the 270 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: way through the song. I couldn't figure out how to 271 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: end it. And then when she dumped me a year later, 272 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: I knew how it ended that last first. So I 273 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: came out here and that was my publisher heard it. 274 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: This guy had been music business forever, and uh he 275 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: had me play a couple of songs for his staff 276 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: and that was one of them. And I don't really 277 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: didn't think it was a commercial song. You know, it 278 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: didn't have a great title, you know, a memorable title. 279 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: I turned anyway, I turned around, and there he is. 280 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: He's got tears coming down his face. This is this hard, 281 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: hardened businessman. I said, Wow, maybe this song really has something. 282 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: So anyway, we started doing it in the clubs and 283 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: we got a record you and that was one of 284 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: the songs he recorded. Well, the record company went out 285 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: of business, and then I was five years between record deals, 286 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: and then the golden phone call comes. Guy says, my 287 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: name is Michael Whitehorn. I produced and write for a 288 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: showk Family Times, and we heard you do a song 289 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: at the club the other night. We came to see you, 290 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: and we think it might be good for an episode 291 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: we have coming up. And I said, what's the name 292 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: of it? He said, I don't know whatever the title 293 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: it was, So I knew that's what the song was. 294 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: When he couldn't think of the title, that's it was it. Well, 295 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: I said, we'll call my publisher called Warner Brothers, and 296 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: licensed the song for the show. So he did, and 297 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: I get a bank full of mail. You know, I 298 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: had had songs on TV shows before it. Usually you 299 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: make a few bucks and that's nice. That's the end 300 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: of it. But ma'am so I said, well, you know, 301 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: maybe this song has something, maybe somebody will let me 302 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 1: re record it. And everybody I called said no. And 303 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: one day I was having lunch with a friend of 304 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: mine who owned Rhino Records, and that's a company that 305 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: puts out all these goodies, and we have these mock arguments. 306 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: You know, whose version of Mustang salarly is the best? 307 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: You know. We had these lunches and I told him 308 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: about family ties. I said, I said, how many records 309 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: do you need to sell to break even at your company? Said, oh, 310 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: we have a small staff here, not made a couple 311 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: of thousands, and so I'll guarantee you two thousand if 312 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: you put it out. Put it out. He said sure. 313 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: And he only did it because he likes me. He'll 314 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: tell you to this day. He just figured to do 315 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: your favor and nothing would come of it. And as 316 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: as Lady luck would have it, they used to the 317 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: following season and the girl breaks up with Michael J. Fox. 318 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: Then the story of the song and the story of 319 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: the episode Boy Loses Girl were the same, and the 320 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: public responded. NBC said they had more phone calls than 321 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: any time in the history of the network for a song, 322 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: and people started calling radio stations, they started calling record stores. 323 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: There was no promotion because Ranno didn't know how to promote, 324 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: and it was an organic, uh you know, grassroots kind 325 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: of record that just boom took off. The next thing, 326 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's the number one record. I'm forty two 327 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: years old, got the number one record. Yeah, I went 328 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: on Dick Clark. You know, one of my dreams was 329 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: to be on American band Stand. Did Johnny Carson nine times, 330 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: you know, so it was cool. It turned out to 331 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: change my life for the better. Great story. I was 332 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: twelve years old and literally I still to the same 333 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: forty nine. Can remember that scene and that song like 334 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: it's and it was, I mean I loved Alex and 335 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: Ellen like, but it was that song that made made it. 336 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: It made everything. And it was probably my first like 337 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: thing into like loving romance and watching that in movies 338 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: and TV and um, you know, heartbreak and wanting it 339 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: to work out. It's like a song concealed the deal 340 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: on that you were twelve years old, Yeah, a little baby. 341 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: That funny thing about that song, I mean vividly remember 342 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there were kids that made it their junior 343 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: high school record hop song. There were sixty five year 344 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: old couples was their song. It crossed every demographic group. 345 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: It was being on the pop chart. Yeah, like when 346 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: that played in high school dances, Oh my gosh, she 347 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: just looked around and you were praying like a boy 348 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: would ask me a slow dance to. It was just 349 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: that one of those rare, universal kind of songs that 350 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: fit every format. Yeah. It just goes to show you 351 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: the power of music, especially when they use it mix 352 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: it with the medium of storytelling through film and television, 353 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: like they're there partners, Like when they worked together like 354 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: that so beautifully to create something so memorable. That's what 355 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: that's like lightning in a bottle. I mean, people to 356 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: this day, you know, come up to me. I remember 357 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: where I was when Michael J. Fox was crying over 358 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: the girl. You know, well he never lost her in 359 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: real life because they want to get married and have kids. 360 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: They're still but the other I know, like I think 361 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: in Hollywood things don't work out. They have this great relationship. 362 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: He was on he was on a talk show, you know, 363 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: and he said, he said, you know, I'm getting to 364 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: tell you the truth. I'm getting a little sick of 365 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: the song, he said. He said, every time we walk 366 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: into a place, the band starts playing it in real life. 367 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. I wonder if they played 368 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: it at their wedding. Boy, you know it's it's really 369 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: not a wedding. I guess not. People say, what are 370 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: you seeing at this moment? I said, you crazy? Are 371 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: you sure you want me to do that? I don't 372 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: want to you can I ask you one last question 373 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: about nine two and so you were You were in 374 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: four episodes as Duke, but Duke later comes back in 375 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: the show, but it wasn't you. It was a different actor. Yeah. 376 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't remember why that happened or how that happened. 377 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: You're probably busy and on tour and stuff that we 378 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: had to get something else. I must have had another 379 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: gig that week or something. I guess. I don't know. 380 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: I would have done in a minute, you know, just 381 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: one that was curious. That was my role. He wasn't 382 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: as good as now. Well, you're still busy to this day. 383 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: What are you tell us what you're up to? I'm 384 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: going to do something really fun the end of the month, 385 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to go back and play at my high school. WHOA, 386 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, in White Plains, New York. Yeah, I'm 387 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna do a show there, and uh it's 388 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: a it's a really nice theater at the school. In fact, 389 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: Alan older was it was the was alumni. John Boyd 390 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: was an alumni. So yeah, And the last time I 391 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: was on that stage, I was. I was in tenth grade. 392 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: We we we wanted to be in the talent show, 393 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know, how good could you 394 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: be a sixteen years old? So I knew a little 395 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: bit of guitar. I put my best friend and I 396 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: taught him how to play two songs on guitar stone deaf. 397 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: He couldn't even the guitar, poor kids, but he had 398 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: an amp. I couldn't afford an amp. And then uh, 399 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: I taught this other kid out to play the same 400 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: two songs on drums. And we went up there and 401 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: we had friends up in the spotlight booth. So we 402 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: want these cheap white jackets. We said, put purple and pink, 403 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, lights on us. And we got two hundred 404 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: ninety six out of two d boats and it was 405 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: it was really shameful because the kid that should have won. 406 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: His name was Germano Romano. I'll never forget Romano, that's 407 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: his real name. It was a classical pianist. His hands 408 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: were insured for a hundred thousand dollars. He should have won, 409 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: you know. I mean we sucked, but he looked good. Well, 410 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: we played the Rocket Roll. I think that was the key. 411 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: I can't lose with Rocket Roll. Now, you when you can't. 412 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: So when you play, is it just gonna be you 413 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: or it'll be your entire group, which obviously everyone knows 414 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: is Billy veron the Beaters. I wish it was. Uh, 415 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: they're coming with you. It's going to be a house band. 416 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: It's a it's a multi artist show. So yeah, it's 417 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: like bringing Billy back, you know, back home, and all 418 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: the homies will be there. Fun. If you need some backups, 419 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: we'll dance for you in the back. Yeah. Yeah, I 420 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: try to lips, you know, Uh, to do a gig 421 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: in New York, you know, usually in the city, but 422 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: this is the suburbs. So because it's one kid must 423 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: have done well because you bought three rows in the theater, 424 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: so I guess so exciting anybody that's listening that gets 425 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: to go to the show. You are very lucky. Yeah, 426 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: we'd like the things. And we play out here in 427 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: a place called Vito. Yeah. Yes, we just played there 428 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago to celebrate my birthday. So, 429 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we can see him. We could go 430 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: see him at Votels. I know, next time you're there, 431 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: let's go the guy who's the same Does the same 432 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: guy own that place? Still? Bad is his name? He's 433 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: on it? Not the old easier that used to own 434 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: right that? Because that Votelo has had some history, some 435 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: stuff go down. Oh let me tell you. Yeah, that's 436 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: some stories. I was called the Robert Blake Memorial Room. 437 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: I still get nervous to go there. Yeah, Vincent, Wait, 438 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: do you know the next time you're gonna be a Vatelos. 439 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't know the date. You can always go on 440 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: billy vera dot com or you know, I can give 441 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: you my number, you know, whatever you want. Billy Fair 442 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: is going to give us his number one what I mean, Facebook, 443 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: all that stuff. You know, it's okay, Billy, we'll just 444 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: slide into your d M s. Yeah, oh my gosh, 445 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: that's very exciting. Okay, Well, when you see us there, 446 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: remember us, it's Jenny and Tory. We'll be like wean Yeah, 447 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: I'll announce you, man, every once while we get some 448 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: famous people in there, you know, to come to see us. 449 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: My boy Joe Pesci always comes when he's in town. 450 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: He's a great singer, you know. Yes, oh great, not good, 451 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: He's great. Really, I love him. He been singing since 452 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: he was ten years old. Well, don't ask us this thing. 453 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: Just trust me on that. Okay, maybe Tory actually, but 454 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: I can't help her. Um, we're finding out so much info. 455 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: Then I feel like this is like cool and so 456 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: much fun time. This has been the greatest interview. Thank 457 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: you for taking the time to talk to us and 458 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: catch up and fill us in. I be to do it. 459 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm happy to do it. You're bringing back some good 460 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: memories of being on that one though. Man, I mean 461 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: this confirms that you are the real deal. Like, you're 462 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: not just an unbelievable iconic performer. You are charming as hell. 463 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: Like oh mg, like and want to hang out. I 464 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: want to hear are so charming and adorable. Come on over. 465 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: We'll play old old blues records in my house. Love it, 466 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: love it, thanky so much. Billy, Well, thanks for having me. Girls, 467 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: good look at your show. Thanks, thanks, not really, you 468 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: gotta come back then. We gotta see if you tell 469 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: us any time. I'm here for you, all right, love you, 470 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Billy your Oh my gosh, take care. Oh my gosh. 471 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: Billy is so amazing a heartthrob. I know, he's so charming, 472 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: so charming and sexy and like he knows how. It's 473 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: like eggs started to come out a little more and 474 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: more and more as he got more comfortable. Yeah, oh 475 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: my gosh, wait, we have to actually go. We have 476 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: to we have to do that. We should definitely do that. 477 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm scared of hotels, but it we'll go. Yeah, it's 478 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: so convenient though. It's right there. Okay, we're doing it.