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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to a Monday edition of Texans All

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Speaker 1: Access from the Hounday Texans Radio studio. It's John Harris, longside,

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Speaker 1: Mark vanderber Mark. Who's your game this weekend? By the way,

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Speaker 1: I was good. I did a game for Westwood one.

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Speaker 1: It was the Ohio Valley Conference Final, Southeast Missouri defeating

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Speaker 1: Tennessee State. No, it's actually Tennessee Tech. Yeah, believe me.

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Speaker 1: I got it right during the broadcast, buzzer beater to

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Speaker 1: send it into overtime Tennessee Tech. Yeah, and it was

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Speaker 1: Deonte Wood, who's the brother of Christian Would. We had

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Speaker 1: some good family family relations family relationships to highlighten this game.

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Speaker 1: And actually one of the guys on Tennessee Tech is

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Speaker 1: Nolan Coswell, who's Dwayne Couswell's son, Dwayne who plays the NBA.

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Speaker 1: So there's some stuff like that. It was fun. It's

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Speaker 1: always fun to do basketball. Thank you, basketball chops. Got

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Speaker 1: how long did it take you to get kind of

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Speaker 1: back into it? Like, by the time the game was over,

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Speaker 1: I was ready for another one. Robert for the Astros

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Speaker 1: saw he was there doing ESPN two or whatever it

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Speaker 1: was on and I never met him before because I've

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Speaker 1: always wanted to go into that astro's booth. Every time

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Speaker 1: I'm at an astro's game, I'm in the stands and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not going in there. I got my

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Speaker 1: kids or whatever. And we've never actually met until we

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Speaker 1: were in Evansville, Indiana toy with this tournament. So that

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Speaker 1: was fun to bump into him. Oh that's very cool.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna play. Let's make a deal. Okay,

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Speaker 1: in just a second. But we got Dave McKennis, who

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Speaker 1: is the Tennessee Titans color analyst, longtime NFL coach, NFL

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Speaker 1: head coach. We joined it. We talked a lot about Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: what was going on throughout the league. He was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: And Addi kin Kawala joined DP city easy for me

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Speaker 1: to say, and it's a really fun interview. In fact,

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Speaker 1: they were rolling on audio before the interview started, and

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Speaker 1: I am going to play that because it is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the DP interviews I've been doing that

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Speaker 1: Rich Eisen. That was good because I rolled on it,

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Speaker 1: they rolled on it before and I played it on

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Speaker 1: the air starting from the beginning. O Stuff with Rhet

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Speaker 1: Lewis on Friday. These shows are all up on the

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Speaker 1: app and wherever you get podcasts. Rhet Lewis and we

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Speaker 1: were giving him not grief, but helling him to get

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Speaker 1: his water bottle off the death because it was the

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Speaker 1: wrong sponsor. We were shooting the aff. You gotta know that, bro. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So let's make a deal. I got behind door number one,

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Speaker 1: door number two, or door number three. Okay. Now my

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Speaker 1: hope is that will eventually get to all of him

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Speaker 1: in some sense. But you have to pick door number one,

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Speaker 1: door number two, or door number three. Ready pick Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what's I don't I'm not telling

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Speaker 1: you what's behind it. You gotta pickup. I'll go door

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Speaker 1: number two, Okay, door number two. News out of New

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Speaker 1: Orleans that Derek cars Nott a four year, one hundred

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Speaker 1: fifty million dollars contract, one hundred million guaranteed. Apparently car

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Speaker 1: was ameniable to helping the Saints out of their salary

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Speaker 1: cap situation with his contract. That was something that I

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Speaker 1: thought when he went to the Saints and took that

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Speaker 1: visit and came back and said, I don't want to trade.

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Speaker 1: I knew exactly what was going on. I knew exactly

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Speaker 1: the Saints made all the sense in the world that

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Speaker 1: I doubted myself, thinking that's the Jets gut reaction and

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Speaker 1: we'll spin the quarterback harrousel quickly if we can. Derek

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Speaker 1: car goes to the Saints. Now what yeah, Now what

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Speaker 1: is a good question, because where's Rogers going? Is he staying?

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Speaker 1: Is he going to the Raiders? Are going to the Jets?

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Speaker 1: Those the popular destinations. Car going to New Orleans. Look,

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Speaker 1: New Orleans played some sneaky hot good games down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: right they did Andy Dalton at quarterback. That was with Dalton,

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Speaker 1: and car is a step up from Andy Dalton at

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Speaker 1: this point. How big a step up, Johnny, That's what

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Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself and where they really going

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Speaker 1: from here? I think in that division though, they can

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Speaker 1: certainly be competitive and possibly win it with Derek Carr,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna bet on that. I would not

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Speaker 1: place money on that. And we'll wait and see after

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Speaker 1: the draft and the rest of free agency, because we

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Speaker 1: don't know what Caroline is gonna do. We think we

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Speaker 1: know what Tampa Bay is gonna do. Atlanta we kind

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Speaker 1: of know what they're gonna do. We just bumped into

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Speaker 1: t J. Yates and our friends. Well, you and I

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Speaker 1: met Arthur Smith at lunch. That was kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: And former Texans quarterback who's the OC there, So that

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Speaker 1: was fun. I like it. Derek Carve will be at

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Speaker 1: car you pointed this out to me. Never one here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's owing one. And I don't know if he

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Speaker 1: mascot game. At that's an adult. He's owed one Energy Stadium, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And the Saints have never won here because let's see, yeah,

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Speaker 1: fit Yeah, so eight years seven fifteen and here we

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Speaker 1: go again. This is their third visit. They're owing two

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Speaker 1: here all time. That's a talented squad. Now, what happens

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Speaker 1: with Alan Kamara. There's some news about him over the

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Speaker 1: you never know what's gonna happen there, and is he

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Speaker 1: gonna have to service suspension now at the league. But

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Speaker 1: it's still a talent offense or Chris lave Rashish they

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Speaker 1: have that Marcus que Callaway. They've still got some talent

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Speaker 1: Tyron will be back, Demario Davis is one of the

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Speaker 1: more underrated linebackers. I think it's gonna be a good squad.

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Speaker 1: I think Car takes them from you know, if any

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Speaker 1: Dwalt made them a C plus, I think Car can

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Speaker 1: get them to be minus and that might be enough

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Speaker 1: to win that division absolutely, because that division is a

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Speaker 1: is an absolute mess. Okay, let's spin the wheel now,

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Speaker 1: because we now know Car fits into the Saints slot. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you mentioned Panthers, Colts, Jets. What happens is with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? Raiders need a quarterback? Where do you I

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Speaker 1: Green Bay another year. So Jordan Loved then gets traded.

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Speaker 1: it's sixteen million dollars they owe him, right, but what

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Speaker 1: So you're buying picks getting rid of, not getting rid

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Speaker 1: And I don't blame them because it's sensational stuff to

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Speaker 1: would say, he stays somehow, some way, one more year,

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Speaker 1: then goodbye. What if the Jets say that happens? Well,

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Speaker 1: them work out this weekend. Wilson was picked number two, two,

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Speaker 1: and he was a super sexy pick. Johnny. It was

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Speaker 1: no jokes, please, absolutely, he was a super sexy pick.

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Speaker 1: And look how it's working out for them so far.

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Speaker 1: And look he's got a career ahead of him. Maybe

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Speaker 1: this weekend quarterback performances, in particular, Anthony Richardson completely just

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to take away from you know

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Speaker 1: He's fantastic. So anything that you take out of the

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Speaker 1: Not only did he throw, it was Kathy Ireland. I

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Speaker 1: Rogers always performed well, but Kat the Ireland was never

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Speaker 1: Richards said. I knew he'd be athletic and test well

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Speaker 1: best workout ever for a quarterback on that metric, And

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Speaker 1: good for him. He's gonna get picked high. But we

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Speaker 1: all know that there are things that people have concerns about.

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Speaker 1: I thought Bryce Young at the podium was just fine.

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Speaker 1: Charley casually looked, I like a guy's got good loa

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Speaker 1: and before we get into Dave mckinnis with Mark and myself,

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Speaker 1: this year as to where the last two weeks of

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Speaker 1: the season, for Mike Vrabel to choose fifty out of

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Speaker 1: his fifty three to choose from to get an active

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Speaker 1: roster on Sunday, twenty two of those fifty three choices

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Speaker 1: had either been on the Titans practice squad at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the year or somebody else's. So twenty two

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Speaker 1: of the fifty three. You just you gotta have dudes

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Speaker 1: in this league, right, I mean you gotta. I mean

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Speaker 1: I've coached thirty one years in this league. I was

433
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Speaker 1: a great coach when I had good players. When I

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Speaker 1: didn't have good players, I was not really good. So

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Speaker 1: that's the first thing. But you talk about the quarterback,

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00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you still got a quarterback under contract. The

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Speaker 1: issue is is it all has to fit within a

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Speaker 1: salary cap, which you're having to clear a cap now,

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Speaker 1: So to me, I mean until you have a viable option.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ryan Tannehill is still Ryan Tannehill. A quarterback

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Speaker 1: is directly affected by what is around him. You guys

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Speaker 1: know what you guys have experienced it during all of

443
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Speaker 1: your time in this league. I've experienced it both good

444
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Speaker 1: and bad the times I've been in this league. So

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Speaker 1: I would think the first thing that you do, instead

446
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Speaker 1: of talking about the quarterback, you need to talk about

447
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Speaker 1: how you're going to be able to build things around him.

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Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis joining US Tennessee Titan's radio color commentator, former

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Speaker 1: NFL coach, Well quarterbacking at large coach. A lot of

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Speaker 1: teams are looking. A lot of teams are looking for qbs,

451
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Speaker 1: maybe in this draft, maybe free agency. What is your

452
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Speaker 1: state of the union address as far as where the

453
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Speaker 1: position is going, Because you have a lot of different

454
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Speaker 1: types of quarterbacks now, running quarterbacks more in vogue than ever.

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Speaker 1: Are they effective? Can they stay healthy? A lot of

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Speaker 1: questions around that as we look at the Justin Fields

457
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Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson's of the world, so many different options,

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Speaker 1: and it's really hard to find a path for a

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Speaker 1: lot of these teams. By you bring up a very

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Speaker 1: valid point. All of those points that you make are

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Speaker 1: very very specific points that are all true. The quarterback

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Speaker 1: profile nowadays, as you it's a lot different than it

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Speaker 1: was when I first started. It's a lot different than

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Speaker 1: it is because offenses are different and the game is different. Now.

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Speaker 1: The game has changed. So first of all, you talk

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Speaker 1: about the smaller quarterbacks, they still have a place because

467
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Speaker 1: of how spread out things are nowadays. Now you still

468
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Speaker 1: have the physical aspect of it. Will they be able

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Speaker 1: to last physically? That's always the thought. It's always the

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Speaker 1: thought process with that. But there are always two drafts.

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Speaker 1: I learned this Bill Tobin when I first started with

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Speaker 1: the Bears, taught me the NFL personnel ways. But there

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Speaker 1: are always two drafts. There's the quarterback draft and then

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Speaker 1: there's everybody else draft, and there really is because you know,

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Speaker 1: teams that are desperate for a quarterback, they will move

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Speaker 1: up and manufacture a reason to go get somebody just

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Speaker 1: because And to your point of the last question, you

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Speaker 1: gotta have one. If you don't have a viable quarterback

479
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Speaker 1: in this league, you've really got a highly paid rugby team,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's what you got, And so you've got

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Speaker 1: to get a viable quarterback. And so the quarterback draft

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Speaker 1: and the way that people move up in the draft

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Speaker 1: to go get a quarterback is a lot of desperation.

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Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes the types of quarterbacks now are different

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Speaker 1: let's take this quarterback draft to begin with, This quarterback

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Speaker 1: draft to begin with is to me, there's there's four guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's four guys, and then there's a line.

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Speaker 1: All right, and with Richardson to me that you talk

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Speaker 1: about different flavors. All right, We're all four sitting here,

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Speaker 1: different teams, and we're all going to look at Richardson

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Speaker 1: as differently. We're going to look at him differently as

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Speaker 1: to what, you know, what we want. You see all

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Speaker 1: the physical aspects of tools. You only see a very

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Speaker 1: limited amount of production at the collegiate level. But then

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Speaker 1: you think, and again my ego and my team, I say,

496
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Speaker 1: I can fix it. I can get him right, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna say, you know what, it's not as technical as

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Speaker 1: I need it. One of these other three that I

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Speaker 1: think Will Levis is in that same position for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I do a Southeastern Conference show

501
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Speaker 1: for twenty weeks during the season, and so see those dudes,

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Speaker 1: and you know, se see him all the time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this guy, this guy's this guy can spin it. He's

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Speaker 1: got a gun, he's got you know, he got all

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Speaker 1: of but all of a sudden, back to our conversation, earlier.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line wasn't the same around him this year,

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Speaker 1: so then he starts trying to do everything, and he

508
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Speaker 1: starts throwing picks, and he starts throwing off you know.

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Speaker 1: So it's different. The quarterback draft is different. But the

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Speaker 1: iterations of quarterbacks now what you brought up, and I

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Speaker 1: think you're very correct in the fact that the profile

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Speaker 1: of a NFL quarterback has changed, and Patrick Mahomes has

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Speaker 1: had a lot to do with that, a lot to

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Speaker 1: do with that. When I was coaching in the league,

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Speaker 1: the guy that was the outlier was Randall Cunningham at

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, you know, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: then you get Steve Young at the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: You know. But it didn't just start there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you go all the way back to fran Tarkty, you

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Speaker 1: go all the way back to Eddie LeBaron. You know that.

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Speaker 1: It's so it's it's it's always been a different iteration.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it depends on what style

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Speaker 1: of football is being played in that era. Well, right now,

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Speaker 1: guys that can throw off, you know, schedule, guys that

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Speaker 1: can you know, are able to you know, make immediate

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Speaker 1: reads and get it out of there and you know,

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Speaker 1: throw under two and a half seconds and not worry

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Speaker 1: about standing back there in the pocket and protecting a

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Speaker 1: seven step drop until you can clear you know, linear routes.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that's changed outside a quarterback coach with

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Speaker 1: the Titans, I know Jeffrey Simmons is looking for a contract,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Luan was let goes that cutting hand was released,

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Speaker 1: and obviously some of those having to do with cap issues.

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Speaker 1: Outside of quarterback, it's a team coming off a seven

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Speaker 1: game losing streak. Like you mentioned, there were we saw

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Speaker 1: a team that we saw a team in December January

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Speaker 1: whenever that was. We didn't see weeks prior because of

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Speaker 1: the injuries and things that took place. It's a team

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Speaker 1: kind of going through changes. Ran Carthon comes on, where

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Speaker 1: do you think the priorities are for this team going

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Speaker 1: into twenty twenty three? Take the quarterback out of this.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the other draft. Where and what are

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Speaker 1: the priorities for this team going from get your offensive

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Speaker 1: line fixed. You're gonna get your offensive line fixed. And

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Speaker 1: in this day and age of the National Football League,

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00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: you can never have enough corners, you know, you can

547
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Speaker 1: never have enough cover peap get one in this draft.

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Speaker 1: That's for sure. You can you have and throughout it

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Speaker 1: and throughout and you can do the same thing with

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Speaker 1: the offensive line more so, you know, I mean even

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Speaker 1: you know, on the edge and also interiorly you can

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Speaker 1: you can, you can do that. But the Titans, now,

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Speaker 1: you know, having gone through all the different uh gymnastics

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Speaker 1: that they went through with their roster this year, the

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Speaker 1: offensive line was the you know, was the issue defensively

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Speaker 1: when you start looking at them and you say, every

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Speaker 1: one of those moves that was made with salary cap related,

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Speaker 1: every one of them, every one of them. You know,

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Speaker 1: they release four already, They're probably not done yet, you know,

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Speaker 1: because still, I mean, they cleared enough cap space. Uh

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Speaker 1: And I know you guys, you guys understand the cap.

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Speaker 1: I was a head coach. I cleared a cap before,

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Speaker 1: I know, you know. But when you start talking about

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Speaker 1: the cap, a lot of times your listeners their eyes

565
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: glaze over, you know, because it's it's so intricate as

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Speaker 1: to as to what goes on. But the Titans have

567
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Speaker 1: cleared like maybe now they're eight million dollars above the line,

568
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: that's still not enough to operate exactly. Still, not enough

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Speaker 1: to operate. So there's a lot of things that you

570
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: still have to be able to do. But the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: you ask me, I think offensive line and cornerback is

572
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Speaker 1: is somewhere that they will they will be looking to

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Speaker 1: try to shore up in this draft. Dave mcgetti's joining

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Speaker 1: US Tennessee Titans radio color commentator former NFL coach Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Is it a spike or are they here to stay?

576
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Speaker 1: Are they getting better? Where are they at? You saw

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Speaker 1: them up closed and personal as it did. We you

578
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Speaker 1: know what, Here's here's my opinion. And again this is

579
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Speaker 1: just the god's honest truth about what goes on in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. If you're not good for a

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Speaker 1: pretty good stretch, you're not only picking in the top

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Speaker 1: five in the first round, you're picking in the top

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Speaker 1: five in every round that goes on, so sooner or later.

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Speaker 1: If all of us are sitting here picking players, and

585
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you've got upper echelon in every round,

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Speaker 1: your chances of making a mistake diminish greatly because it's just,

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Speaker 1: I mean, guys that are better than other guys from

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Speaker 1: the first round on down. Really, I mean, they got

589
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Speaker 1: a light flashing on top of their head. You could say, well,

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Speaker 1: he's better than these three. He's better. It's hardest when

591
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Speaker 1: you're in the middle or towards the end. Now you

592
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Speaker 1: really have to start discerning traits that are very, very similar.

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Speaker 1: So they were bad for a long time, let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: And then they drafted a franchise quarterback. They drafted a

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. I said it when he was drafted, you know,

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Speaker 1: with all of our draft shows, I think everybody in

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Speaker 1: the league you agreed with it. He didn't have NFL

598
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Speaker 1: coaching his first year. Let's just be honest. I mean,

599
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Speaker 1: he didn't have it. But they've got a franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: on a rookie contract and a lot of really high

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Speaker 1: picks that they've made and have done a nice job

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Speaker 1: with throughout because now the only way to get really

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Speaker 1: high picks in every round is what you got to

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Speaker 1: win three and four games a year. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can't survive that, you know a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've gone into a team when I left

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Speaker 1: the Titans that went with Jeff Fisher to the Rams,

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Speaker 1: they had been fifteen and sixty five in the previous

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Speaker 1: five years. You know, the worst stretch in the history.

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Speaker 1: So you had players you could pick from at the top,

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Speaker 1: so you start to be able to build it up.

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Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville's a good football team. I thought that

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Speaker 1: they had good players. They just weren't a good team yet.

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Speaker 1: And I think, really seriously, the one year you know

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Speaker 1: that they had was the one year that they had

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Speaker 1: was a one off. You know, it's a one off.

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Speaker 1: Now they got to redo with some viable coaching. They're

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Speaker 1: good football team. They're gonna have to be reckoned with.

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Speaker 1: We're all gonna have to reckon with them, guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about Trevor Lawrence? You said everybody

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Speaker 1: in the league thought to say way, somebody didn't. Somebody

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Speaker 1: was the sure he is out. I just want everybody

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Speaker 1: believes a certain thing. Let's wait and see. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: gotta wait and see it pan out. Well, it started

625
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: to pan out in twenty twenty two, and that got very,

626
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Speaker 1: very scared. But it took about halfway through the year,

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Speaker 1: coach twenty It wasn't until the game you played against

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Speaker 1: you guys, against the Titans, where Trevor Lawrence all of a

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Speaker 1: a sudden became Trevor Lawrence the game up in Nashville. Well,

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Speaker 1: the thing and look, there's no certainty in this league.

631
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Speaker 1: But when you start looking at all the traits, I

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Speaker 1: mean right now, all of the teams that need quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in this draft, you think they'd love to have a

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Speaker 1: chance that to Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, maybe ye would, and

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Speaker 1: so well, I mean any you would now and of

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Speaker 1: course you know clearly, you know, hindsight is twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: But when you just you started looking at him and

638
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: you start thinking, you know, if this guy gets into

639
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: the proper place, and you guys know this the thing

640
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: that happens to quarterbacks in this league. Really, the ones

641
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: that are taking the highest are taken to bad teams,

642
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: and sometimes it can either crush your career, stall a career,

643
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: or completely ruined a career. The only thing that's a

644
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: plus about it is that when they're when you're you're

645
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: taking with a bad team early, you're going to play

646
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: and there's nothing, there's you know, there's nothing. You can't

647
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: manufacture the experience, but you can, you can. You can

648
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: ruin somebody if the experience is constantly not being able

649
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: to get into a flow because you're you're working for

650
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: your life, you know every week. So because I want

651
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: to ask you about a quarterback that that's fall in

652
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: a category and it's relevant because he was just released

653
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: by the Atlanta Falcons, and that's Marcus Mariota. How do

654
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: you look at Marcus's career, why it maybe didn't work

655
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, maybe why it didn't all come together for

656
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: the Falcons or whomever. How do you look at Marcus

657
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Mariota drafted number two overall? Why and how do you

658
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: look back at Marcus Mariota. Why wasn't it a hit

659
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: with the Titans for the long run? And why do

660
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: you think he didn't ultimately become completely successful like some

661
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: of the great quarterbacks taking out high and draft and

662
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: there has never quite clicked. As far as the consistency

663
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: part of it. We all saw that. You all see

664
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: the athleticism. I remember, you know, I was coaching. We

665
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: vetted he and you know Jameis Winston at the same time.

666
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: They came out together, so you know they were vetted together.

667
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: You know, both had physical ability, uh, you know, and

668
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: I was on the team, you know when we had Marcus.

669
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't want a better person on there.

670
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: It's just it was it was the the the continuity

671
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: as far as himself week to week to week, that

672
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: it was a consistency issue, a consistency issue, and really,

673
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: when you start talking about quarterbacks that are able to

674
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: elevate those others around him, it's the consistency part of it.

675
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: You know, Marcus had had some really good years with

676
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: the Titans and had some really good games, but then

677
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: he would have some not really good games. And then

678
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: once you start getting injured, once you start getting hurt,

679
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: it just you know, it derails everything. I've thought that

680
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: when he left the Titans, going to the Falcons with

681
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith might have given him another I don't know

682
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: what happened down there. I don't know that. I thought

683
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: that would have regenerated him a little bit. Now. I

684
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: don't know what happened in there, but to me just

685
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: looking at it, you know, thirty thousand foot view, it's

686
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: a consistency part of it, and that's the part of it.

687
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: A couple of things that are being discussed among others,

688
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: maybe with rules possibilities, rules adjustment, changes possibilities, the fourth

689
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: and fifteen thing instead of the on side kick XFL

690
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: doing it, you get the ball at the twenty five

691
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: yard line. If you convert fifteen yards, you keep the ball.

692
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Are you in favor of that? And I'll put one

693
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: other one in there. The push from behind the quarterback

694
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: sneak is occurring. Rule. That's kind of a clunky way

695
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: to word it, but you know what I'm talking about.

696
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about. I watched every

697
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: game the first weekend of the XFLS. I know most

698
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: of those guys coaching, and I'm just very I'm always

699
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: very interested in ultimate leagues. You know what. I was

700
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: to the Alliance down there in Birmingham quite a bit,

701
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: you know USFL. I was at their draft with Daryl

702
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: Johnston for the whole draft. It was very because that

703
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: interests me, it really does. And let me say this,

704
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm a proponent of alternately because I just want, I

705
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: like more jobs for everybody, everybody, Okay, concern Now, the

706
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen thing is interesting. They've changed because they've

707
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: changed that you can't overload a side defensively, when you're

708
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: kicking the ball off on side, you can't overload it.

709
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: The percentage that you get on those is five percent.

710
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just nearly a let's just do it

711
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: because we have to do it, but there's no chance

712
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: for it. The fourth and fifteen thing, you know what

713
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: you know, are you saying we have a chance? Yea,

714
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: the fourth and fifteen thing. You've got a chance. Now

715
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: you're taking a chance because it's from the minus twenty

716
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: five and if you don't get it, that's where they

717
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: get it. Okay. So I mean there's a lot to it,

718
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's something that you just flick away.

719
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: It won't be an immediate change, you know, how how

720
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: things with you know, I was a Jeff Fisher for

721
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: what fifteen eighteen years. He's on the competition committee, you know,

722
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: the vice chair of it, so I would have all

723
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: of it. It takes him a while to get through

724
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: with that, okay. The push from behind I think may

725
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: not take quite as long. I think people have looked

726
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: at it and they say, wait a minute, something's wrong. Well,

727
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: it never used to let it happened to be used

728
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: to be a penalty pushed a runner from behind. But

729
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: it's not the rule book. It's not in the rule

730
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: book specifically. And he's one hundred percent right. And so coaches,

731
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: which I've been a lifelong coach in this league. If

732
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: there's a little crack at take it. So that's what happened.

733
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: That's what's happened. I think you might be able to

734
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: see that sooner than later legislated out. Okay, Coach, it's

735
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: a lot for joining us. We appreciate it, guys. You

736
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: guys are the best. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

737
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: Say you. That is the best sign off I think

738
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: we've ever had. Appreciate it. Say you, and I mean

739
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: a minute nicely, but it was just awesome. Love coach

740
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: and love getting a chance to catch up with him now.

741
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: One of the new friends that we all made at

742
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: the combine was Addi Kinkawalla. She will join dpcity next

743
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: right here in Texas All Access, we all follow Segon

744
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: was money issue of Texas All Access. I'm your host,

745
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: John Harris. It's time to catch up with Addi Kinkaballa

746
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: covers its not to covers the text, and she covers

747
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: the NFL four CBS. She was All Silom reporter for

748
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: a couple of games, and I finally got a chance

749
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: to meet her on the trip to the Combine. Well.

750
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: DP has known her for a little while and they

751
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: had an awesome interview in fact, it was so awesome

752
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: it started even before the interview began. Here's deep and

753
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: add I know, I'm sorry I had the mic, so

754
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: I have one out and this is the wrong hand

755
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: that I just right, I have one hand. You've got

756
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: two hands. You can just use lots of gestures. It's

757
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: very odd when you don't have a microphone in your hands,

758
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: Like can I just like stand like, why don't you

759
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: have two mics instead of you? You should have a

760
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: mic and I should have a mic, and then we

761
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: should brother the mike. All right, it would make a

762
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: little bit of a better clip. I'm sorry. Next time,

763
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: I'll bring two mics for a DD so she doesn't

764
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: she knows what to do with her hands. All right, Okay,

765
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: here we go. We're gonna go. We're gonna go. You're

766
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna use your hands, um okay, Demiko, Yeah, all right,

767
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: eventually we're gonna start this interview. Is not making the clips, like,

768
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's gonna he's gonna put this in somewhere.

769
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm terrified. Go ahead, all right, Demiko, Ryan's head coach

770
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: of the Houston Texas You covered him as a player.

771
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: What do you think about this new head coaching hire

772
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: for the text. How she just like threw that right

773
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: in there. You covered him as a player. You're aging

774
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: me before we just start the interview. No, you You're like,

775
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: oh og, you're the og of covering players. Well, I

776
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: mean and they, I mean, this is where they grow

777
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: up to be. I guess my goodness. Okay, So Demiko

778
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: Ryan's love his energy, love how open he is, and

779
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: love that he was built for this. I mean we

780
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: I was just talking about this with someone when he

781
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: was in the Eagles locker room. You could just tell.

782
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: And the brand of leadership that he had even as

783
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: a player, just so sincere, so authentic, never trying to

784
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: be a leader, he just inherently was. And I love

785
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: how passionately he feels about the city of Houston. And

786
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: I'll say, I remember when the Denver job. We knew

787
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: that Denver was interested in him and that Houston was.

788
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: And I remember having a conversation with my broadcast partners,

789
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: because we've done a ton of Texans games, why would

790
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: you pick Houston considering the last few years as compared

791
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: to Denver? And Jay Feeley made the point he loves

792
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: Houston and you could see the energy in the city

793
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: as soon as he was hired. So I'm excited. I'm

794
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: really pumped. Now I'm pumped too. You've got me pumped

795
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: all over again. All Right, numbers better than the apathy, unfortunately,

796
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: that we saw, or that we've seen the last few years.

797
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: We definitely don't have that anymore with Tim go back

798
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: in the building. How about number two overall pick? You're

799
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: Nick Kassirio. What are you doing with that pick? I'm

800
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: taking a quarterback. Do you have a quarterback in mind

801
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: that you'd like to pick? No? But I I really

802
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: like Bryce Young. I'm concerned about his height because they

803
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: tell us to be concerned about his height. Now, it

804
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: wasn't an issue for Drew Brees, but that's because of

805
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: how smart Drew Breese was. And I'm a short person,

806
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: so I don't like when heights becomes an issue. But

807
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: that's why Nickissario gets the big bucks, and I don't.

808
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: All right, I like it. I like it that you

809
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: you fight for the smaller people in the world. I

810
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 1: mean someone has to. Someone has to. Okay, you've covered

811
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: a few of Texans games last year. You saw some

812
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: of the rookies in person. Damien Pierce, Jalen peatree. He

813
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: s asked Amy and Pierce who taught him how to

814
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: shake a hand properly? How was he shaking his hand before?

815
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: Like very limp? I mean, you know when you do

816
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: like this kind This was Damien Pierce's hand shake. Yes,

817
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, no, none, no, it's gotta

818
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: be like this. And when we finished the production meeting,

819
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: Damien goes what he now and I was like, all right,

820
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: at least my work here is done. Who cares what

821
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: happens in the game. I love that you covered with

822
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: one of the texans few wins last year in Jacksonville.

823
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: What have you thought about the Rick the rookie class

824
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: teaming piercing some of the others. There's so much potential

825
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: there and I think the point and this is a

826
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: credit to Levey Smith and the previous staff. Despite the

827
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: apathy in the city, despite the fact that there just

828
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: wasn't really a full roster of NFL level players, those

829
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: guys fought. They fought all the way basically through week seventeen.

830
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: And I remember I was telling you this story, Kansas

831
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: City asked me. The Kansas City chiefs asked me to

832
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: participate in their internal team podcast and before the Texans

833
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: were playing the Chiefs. I said, there is a young

834
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: core here that's been raised up by the staff, by

835
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: guys like Jerry Hughes. They are fighting, they are putting

836
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: things on tape, whether it's for the Texans or somebody else.

837
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: They have enough pride. The Chiefs can't take this game lightly.

838
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: And guess what, the Texans made me look smart. Right,

839
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: That's what we're here for. That's what I mean, that's

840
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: the whole point. But I just think there's a really,

841
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: really good, young, solid core. I love that Nick has

842
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: eleven draft picks. I mean he's really only had a

843
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: draft and a half. I love the new energy of

844
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: the new staff, and I just think that it's exciting

845
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: when you can get this much talent on rookie contracts. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so next step for the Texans. New head coach got

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Speaker 1: a lot of draft picks, number two, number twelve. Overall,

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Speaker 1: what do the Texans needed? Knows how to shake and

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Speaker 1: Damian Pearis with a new handshake. What do they need

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Speaker 1: to do to get to that next step? Got a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, that get a quarterback. But she's right, and

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Speaker 1: that was a great interview. I'd love those two. They

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Speaker 1: are so fun together and they were really really good

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Speaker 1: and fun to talk to. Add kind of get her

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Speaker 1: skinny on the Steelers or Brown so she covered for

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Speaker 1: a long time. A big thanks to them, to Mark

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Speaker 1: to coach beginners to allow you for listen, we'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time, and has always go Texans.