Speaker 1: Welcome back to Vitamin D. Dawn Day here ready to
Speaker 1: introduce you to your best self. On this episode, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about cycles, specifically vicious cycles. You know,
Speaker 1: those strongholds and those situations and sometimes even relationships that
Speaker 1: you keep finding yourself in over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: Like for me, my vicious cyclists always been my weight.
Speaker 1: I have battled my weight my entire life. In fact,
Speaker 1: as an adult, I standed like five five and I
Speaker 1: don't even say five five and a half on a
Speaker 1: good day. And my heaviest has meant to a fifty four,
Speaker 1: while my lowest has been won ninety one. And I
Speaker 1: felt just so fitting to invite this special guest on
Speaker 1: the show today, Janelle Hughes a k a. The Black
Speaker 1: Vegan Chick. Why would I put dead animals and dead
Speaker 1: flesh into my body when I could be putting living, growing, healthy,
Speaker 1: beautiful things that were placed on this earth to give
Speaker 1: us nourishment. It's just like me. She's battled her weight
Speaker 1: to her entire life, except she has lost a hundred
Speaker 1: pounds on three separate occasions. Janelle sat down with me
Speaker 1: to talk about how we can get out of these
Speaker 1: visious cycles. How to break them and understanding our relationship
Speaker 1: with them, and in the course of the conversation, we
Speaker 1: found ways to apply these same concepts to other aspects
Speaker 1: of life. So, without further ado, take a listen right
Speaker 1: with me and get excited about how are you good doing?
Speaker 1: Get nervous but good? What Listen? We had our we
Speaker 1: had pedicures and manicures. We're just gonna talk. I was
Speaker 1: sitting here and I was just thinking. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm getting prepared, and I was like, you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like some emotions might come out on this because
Speaker 1: this is this is this is real and you know,
Speaker 1: being a plus sized girl for my whole life and
Speaker 1: then actually having to uncover to get to the root
Speaker 1: of it. And it just reminds me because I'm trying
Speaker 1: to I'm working on the process of identifying my relationship
Speaker 1: with food. And you know, have you ever heard the
Speaker 1: quote like, don't live to eat, but to eat to live? Yes?
Speaker 1: I quote that all the time. What does that mean
Speaker 1: to you? It means like you have to understand that
Speaker 1: for me, food is not It's no longer a form
Speaker 1: of entertainment. It's a form of nourishment. And when you
Speaker 1: change your ideology behind food, like and you understand it,
Speaker 1: it's for nourishment, then you'll put things in your body
Speaker 1: that's gonna help you live, that's gonna give you life,
Speaker 1: and not things that they are giving you death. Um,
Speaker 1: which is one of the things with like veganism. For me,
Speaker 1: Why would I put dead animals and dead flesh into
Speaker 1: my body when I could be putting living, growing, healthy,
Speaker 1: beautiful things that were placed on this earth to give
Speaker 1: us nourishment. Well, ladies and gentlemen, there you haven't Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Vitamin D Podcast. I have the one and
Speaker 1: only Janelle Hughes with me and A k A. The
Speaker 1: Black Vegan Check, and we're gonna be talking about your
Speaker 1: incredible journey on your weight loss. I was reading and
Speaker 1: coming to the understanding I didn't know this even when
Speaker 1: we've met years ago on the shirt Curvy Style with
Speaker 1: Timothy Snell on b ET where you were coming in
Speaker 1: to get a makeover. We were making over curvy plus
Speaker 1: size women and it was interesting even all those years
Speaker 1: ago and how we're sitting right here in front of
Speaker 1: each other when you were selected to have your makeover.
Speaker 1: We had a manicure and pedicure moment. And talked even
Speaker 1: more about life aspirations and and it was then that
Speaker 1: you told me how your your past, your modeling career,
Speaker 1: you were dissolving a relationship. You know, you were talking
Speaker 1: about raising your children. But what we did not talk
Speaker 1: about is the fact that there was not once, not twice,
Speaker 1: but three times that you lost one hundred pounds. Man, Well,
Speaker 1: at that time it was only two times. This is
Speaker 1: the third time that this time is actually hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty one. That's a whole adult person. Congratulations than you.
Speaker 1: And you know, I used to work out when I'm
Speaker 1: with assist. A motivational speaker. Her name is Lisa Nichols,
Speaker 1: and she has Okay. One of the things that she
Speaker 1: talked about because she too has a weight lost journey story,
Speaker 1: and she discussed how you don't lose weight, you release
Speaker 1: it because when you lose something, you're on the flip side.
Speaker 1: You're looking to find it that's good and if it's
Speaker 1: a way, let's get it away. So let's just talk.
Speaker 1: You've lost one hundred pounds over three times. This was
Speaker 1: the third time. What was your relationship with food? For
Speaker 1: me growing up as a kid, I have a sister,
Speaker 1: she's nine years older than me. So growing up, I
Speaker 1: was kind of like the only child. UM. And because
Speaker 1: I was already obese as a child, I was bullied,
Speaker 1: spit on snacks, shoes thrown in my head every day. UM.
Speaker 1: I had a really traumatic childhood when it came to
Speaker 1: being bullied and um so much so that honestly, I
Speaker 1: attempted suicide three times by the time I was fourteen
Speaker 1: years old. So what I did is I found myself
Speaker 1: going home every day after being beaten up and talked about,
Speaker 1: and I would just it was me and food that
Speaker 1: was my comfort. Um, that's what filled me up because
Speaker 1: I was so feeling so empty inside and so I
Speaker 1: just used food to continue to eat and sit by
Speaker 1: myself and try to make myself feel better, which in
Speaker 1: turn made me feel worse. But that's where my relationship
Speaker 1: was with it. Where you tease because you were overweight,
Speaker 1: or tease for something else. Yeah, tease because I was overweight.
Speaker 1: M I think back when my earliest like encounter relationship
Speaker 1: with food. UM, my grandfather will oftentimes stay with us,
Speaker 1: and it was this thing. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's like in a black culture or just in general,
Speaker 1: eat all your food so you can become big and strong,
Speaker 1: and that's what I felt like. I said, Okay, so
Speaker 1: I'm being and strong, and I would stuff myself something
Speaker 1: times sometimes to almost where I'm about to puke, and
Speaker 1: it's like, what M now? The only difference Like for me,
Speaker 1: I wasn't necessarily teased for, um, my weight, and if
Speaker 1: it was, like I don't know, I feel in ways
Speaker 1: I compensate for what It wasn't the look thing like
Speaker 1: you knew, but it wasn't something you tease. But of
Speaker 1: course I'm not gonna be invincible and say I didn't
Speaker 1: have those things. But I think also looking back and
Speaker 1: even looking at my life now, I see how I've
Speaker 1: let weight get in the way the ways that I
Speaker 1: didn't know, and how I used food as a coping mechanism.
Speaker 1: And I like how you said that how you know
Speaker 1: when you use or not. You are just a general
Speaker 1: A person can use food to cope, but you don't
Speaker 1: realize the effect and how it can get worse in
Speaker 1: your life exactly. Yes, it becomes an habitual habit um
Speaker 1: and then if it's not food, eventually it turns to
Speaker 1: other things. I mean, that's just addictions in general. Um.
Speaker 1: Even if it's something that's simple as social media. You know,
Speaker 1: there's so many things that you can replace when we
Speaker 1: when we need healing, like real internal healing to go
Speaker 1: within um. And for me, it just happened to be food.
Speaker 1: And like I said, now food is no longer my
Speaker 1: source of death, but my source of life. I love that.
Speaker 1: So what was the highest wait that you you got to?
Speaker 1: You know? I was like three O nine. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like three O nine. That was like in
Speaker 1: two thousand nine. I believe I had actually auditioned for
Speaker 1: the Biggest Loser. I went to l A, was there
Speaker 1: for a week, um, try it out for them. I
Speaker 1: almost made I made it to the final round, like
Speaker 1: the final day, and they sent me home like the
Speaker 1: day before they finished the cast. And I was so
Speaker 1: stay because it was like the whole six month process
Speaker 1: that I basically had to go through to get there,
Speaker 1: but with them once again making me feel rejected like
Speaker 1: I wasn't good enough to even be on the Fat
Speaker 1: People Show, you know, that's kind of how I felt.
Speaker 1: So I took that motivation and came back home to
Speaker 1: Kansas City and I was determined that I was going
Speaker 1: to get that weight off so that was the second time,
Speaker 1: um that I was able to do so okay, And
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mean what happened the first time.
Speaker 1: The first time was I was getting married girl, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I will not be a fat bride.
Speaker 1: That ain't happening. And I used to see all the
Speaker 1: beautiful dresses. And when I had gotten engaged, I took
Speaker 1: my best friend with me. She was like aside two three,
Speaker 1: and none of the dresses in the stores were my fide.
Speaker 1: So I would take her with me and make her
Speaker 1: trying to dress, and so I can you know, imagine
Speaker 1: what kind of dress I wanted? And I was like,
Speaker 1: forget this, Like I'm gonna have to lose this weight myself.
Speaker 1: So I got a trainer and worked out with the
Speaker 1: training for about a month and a halpen and I
Speaker 1: just took it on my own and then the rest
Speaker 1: and I got into my dress. My bloody dress actually
Speaker 1: was too big and almost fell off at the reception.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So it seems as though as far as
Speaker 1: when it comes down, when once you put your mind
Speaker 1: to it, it's going to work. But I thought something
Speaker 1: was interesting because you said growing up not having I
Speaker 1: guess the best self esteem because people teached you. Did
Speaker 1: you ever find it become a factor when it came
Speaker 1: to dating, because I can imagine somebody that did suffer
Speaker 1: with that, and they're like, well least she got married
Speaker 1: and you have children, girl, you want to get deep,
Speaker 1: don't you. I don't know, because I think about I
Speaker 1: think of ways that it probably has prevented me from
Speaker 1: meeting people of just not knowing what I was gonna
Speaker 1: wear and be comfortable and wearing it. Well, I would
Speaker 1: agree that I'm sure that is an issue for me.
Speaker 1: I met my ex husband when I was fourteen, so
Speaker 1: we were hiding the sweethearts and we were together from
Speaker 1: fourteen up until we got married and then eventually divorced.
Speaker 1: But now that I'm in the dating scene, um, I
Speaker 1: took a year, a couple of years after just work
Speaker 1: on myself and find myself. Now I'm in the dating scene.
Speaker 1: But I'm a smaller side. Um, so I don't have
Speaker 1: no problems down. Okay, So you did you find did
Speaker 1: you find a dating heart when you were larger? I
Speaker 1: wasn't dating because I was married. I was in a relationship. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: But and then once you got back to Jay and
Speaker 1: it was after you released the way that is amazing.
Speaker 1: So you know, when you you ever hear of somebody saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta be fat and fabulous? Is that such a thing?
Speaker 1: I mean the face that you made is exactly what
Speaker 1: I feel, because it's like, yes, embrace who you are,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, are you really loving yourself
Speaker 1: like you should be? How can you I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's an excuse. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: a mental excuse that people will say instead of me
Speaker 1: doing what I need to do to be the best
Speaker 1: version of myself, I'm going to quote unquote except myself
Speaker 1: because I don't want to put in the work to
Speaker 1: get better. I mean, it's it's hard work, it's emotional
Speaker 1: and mental work to get to that type of thing
Speaker 1: to become the healthiest version of yourself. And instead of
Speaker 1: people wanting to do that, they'd better just be like,
Speaker 1: I'm fabulous, I'm fat, I'm thick, I'm this. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just so many excuses. Yes, you're still a beautiful
Speaker 1: person at a larger size. That doesn't take away from
Speaker 1: our beauty, But can you fully be really fabulous if
Speaker 1: you're not at your best? And when we're overweight and unhealthy.
Speaker 1: We're not at our best right. And I want to
Speaker 1: be clear that, of course this is not to shame
Speaker 1: anybody if you have any diseases or illnesses, but it
Speaker 1: is also to say that if that's not the case,
Speaker 1: it are you doing because because and just because you
Speaker 1: may be a large York Because I've always been active,
Speaker 1: and I've had times that I've healthy, and I've never
Speaker 1: I've I don't think i've ever been I can't remember
Speaker 1: the last time I was a sized well maybe as
Speaker 1: a child, like young young, but I was always active.
Speaker 1: I was always playing sports and so things like that,
Speaker 1: and and and just like how you were saying how
Speaker 1: you use food to do that coping mechanism, I did
Speaker 1: the same thing because it was like my moment, my
Speaker 1: private moment that I can eat, my relaxation, my getaway,
Speaker 1: you know, to say that, Okay, Dawn, let's enjoy this
Speaker 1: food for self. Be there, done that. And I was
Speaker 1: just looking at your Instagram account, and I was just
Speaker 1: looking how you're grinding. You're talking about all the consistency.
Speaker 1: What do you think calls you to maybe let's go
Speaker 1: from the second and third time to gain the weight
Speaker 1: and bring it down. Gain the weight and bring it down.
Speaker 1: The first time when I regained the weight, that was
Speaker 1: due to pregnancy from my first child. And that's actually
Speaker 1: when I got the largest, when I got to to
Speaker 1: three or nine. After that, and when I auditioned for
Speaker 1: the Biggest Loser, not only was I my self esteem
Speaker 1: bad for myself, but here I am I have a
Speaker 1: whole husband at this point in time, and now I
Speaker 1: have a whole child, and I felt like I can't
Speaker 1: let my guarter go through what I had to suffer
Speaker 1: through as a child. There was no way I could
Speaker 1: do that. And people thought I was crazy. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you. I mean from breastfeeding my children to um
Speaker 1: not allowing them to eat certain food as as they
Speaker 1: were younger. I heard it all people not wanting them
Speaker 1: to have the formula because of the preservatives and things,
Speaker 1: and that I got dogged, and but I did not care.
Speaker 1: I was determined they would not suffer like I had
Speaker 1: to suffer that if I had anything to do with it,
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't. However, if they weren't gonna suffer, I
Speaker 1: needed to be an example as well, and so that
Speaker 1: was my motivation. UM, I wanted my husband to be
Speaker 1: attraction to me, you know, like that was part of it,
Speaker 1: and the other part was my my children. And then
Speaker 1: the third time after getting the worce, knowing I was
Speaker 1: going to be getting back into the day and feel
Speaker 1: this was going to be my first time dating as
Speaker 1: an adult. I had never been on in the date
Speaker 1: as an adult, like I was fourteen the last time,
Speaker 1: and I just didn't want to go into It was baggage,
Speaker 1: you know, I knew that there was all that was
Speaker 1: so much baggage tied to childhood trauma and triggers and
Speaker 1: things that I needed to work through. And I wanted
Speaker 1: I want a healthy man, you know, when he comes,
Speaker 1: and so I wanted to be my healthy version of me,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I believe we marry each other there
Speaker 1: How can I go into relationship and ask for something
Speaker 1: from someone else if I can't even do it for myself? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and if that's gonna be your better half, Like you know,
Speaker 1: I want to reflect an almighty, like a king, a queen,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever your thing is, but just reflecting being
Speaker 1: exactly what you're saying. And so when you found that
Speaker 1: you were seeking that what made you go the route
Speaker 1: of being a vegan how long was that? Was that
Speaker 1: the contributing factor to the weight loss? That's a great question.
Speaker 1: I had always been interested. I watched the documentary years ago,
Speaker 1: What the Health UM, and the first time watching that documentee,
Speaker 1: it struck a chord with me, and there was something
Speaker 1: about it that it just resonated with me. And so
Speaker 1: I actually became a pestcyterian for a year, which is
Speaker 1: eliminating all of meat except for fish and seafood. And
Speaker 1: I did that for a year and I loved it,
Speaker 1: and then of course I fell off again and started
Speaker 1: eating more. UM. Then I went to vegetarian for another year,
Speaker 1: and I love that too, and fell up again and
Speaker 1: gave the way back. This time was different. I was
Speaker 1: on a spiritual fast UM in twenty nineteen UH from
Speaker 1: January to the end of February. And in February, on
Speaker 1: my birthday, that evening, I got extremely sick and was
Speaker 1: I had to brush myself to the hospital. UM. I
Speaker 1: had stomach pains that were so bad I crawled through
Speaker 1: the parking lot to get to the emergency room. UM.
Speaker 1: When I was there, they were like, oh, there's nothing wrong,
Speaker 1: you know, we can't find anything. You might have gas
Speaker 1: and they left me in the bed for like four
Speaker 1: hours until they figured out was wrong. Well about the
Speaker 1: four hour mark, they rushed in told my parents they
Speaker 1: could not talk to them, but they had to take
Speaker 1: me down because I was super sick. So we found
Speaker 1: out I had sept this um septic blood, which is
Speaker 1: extreme bacteria in the bloodstream, and had emergency surgery that
Speaker 1: morning um And they were like, if I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: came in that night, it was so bad, I would
Speaker 1: have passed away. I was already on the vegan journey
Speaker 1: at that point for about three weeks, and while I
Speaker 1: was in the hospital for that week, I told them
Speaker 1: I wanted to continue to stay on it, and so
Speaker 1: they continue to give me beging food that I ate,
Speaker 1: and then from there that's just something that I really
Speaker 1: wanted to continue to do, especially after having stepsis. They
Speaker 1: don't know where the bacteria came from, how it got
Speaker 1: into my blood stream, and I was just the first
Speaker 1: thing my thought was food, my intake, the stuff that
Speaker 1: I'm putting in my body. So I'm just gonna continue
Speaker 1: to go on this route. And with veganism, I lost
Speaker 1: weight so fast this time, it was amazing, almost to
Speaker 1: the point like now I have to be careful because
Speaker 1: I'd be like, dang, I'm losing my booty. I wanted
Speaker 1: a little bit more moody than like a really let
Speaker 1: me eat some more cars, because I wasn't trying to
Speaker 1: get that skinny. But yes, this time it's been um,
Speaker 1: it's much different than the other two times. It hasn't
Speaker 1: been that much effort at all, because you don't have
Speaker 1: all the preservatives, you don't have the hormones that are
Speaker 1: being ingested into the animals going into your body, and
Speaker 1: so your body just goes back to a natural state.
Speaker 1: And I love it. So let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: well I find and I find this challenge because right
Speaker 1: now I would say like I'm a flexible vegan. I
Speaker 1: have a vegan meal plan that I eat, but I
Speaker 1: still have my moments because like I love food. I
Speaker 1: love the color, I love the texture, I love the taste,
Speaker 1: I love everything the environment of what it feels like.
Speaker 1: But at the same token, I have to choose to
Speaker 1: love me in the right way. And just like how
Speaker 1: your story of just going up and down and up
Speaker 1: and down, you know, getting to a place of keeping
Speaker 1: it consistent. But the one thing that I see prevails,
Speaker 1: and I find that a lot of people who may
Speaker 1: be seeking out the path of being a paskeytarian or
Speaker 1: a vegetarian, actually a vegan is the carbs. And they're like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: that's just a fat vegan. Were you ever a carve girl?
Speaker 1: That's always been my problem. How did you? How are
Speaker 1: you stopping it? What's what's the secret? Tell me girl?
Speaker 1: If I could be honest with you, I think the
Speaker 1: carbs actually helped me because I work out so much.
Speaker 1: That's one of the differences. A lot of people will
Speaker 1: change their food but they don't work out along with it,
Speaker 1: or they'll work out a lot, but they don't change
Speaker 1: their nutrition. For me, I had both. I was walking
Speaker 1: four miles a day every single like six days a week, um,
Speaker 1: and so I could actually afford to and lift and
Speaker 1: weight lifting. I weight lift for an hour forty five
Speaker 1: minutes one hour a day on top of that. So
Speaker 1: I needed the carbs in order to help with the
Speaker 1: muscle and give me the energy. I wouldn't have survived
Speaker 1: just stop of that. G So my suggestion would be
Speaker 1: to do the nutrition and the physical. Um, that's the
Speaker 1: best way to be all around. Yeah, they it is
Speaker 1: your nutrition and then is to exercise. Now, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, experiencing such extreme weight while us more
Speaker 1: than once, how did you get your scanning your elasticity
Speaker 1: to come back weight training? That's how you do. It's
Speaker 1: and it's not all the way back. Like now, I
Speaker 1: haven't been lifting in like two weeks, and so my
Speaker 1: arms I can tell my muscle mass is starting to
Speaker 1: like shrink again. Uh, and the like the good thing
Speaker 1: is that I have muscle memory because I've been lifting
Speaker 1: weights for so many years. So it'll take an about
Speaker 1: two weeks and I'll be you can look on my Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, but yeah, if you weight training, that's
Speaker 1: what a lot of people miss. They stick to cardio,
Speaker 1: and you should do, in my opinion, more weight training
Speaker 1: than you do cardio. And then and then I hear
Speaker 1: people say, oh, I don't want to become muscicular. But actually,
Speaker 1: like you said, and I've heard, you actually lose more
Speaker 1: weight because of the muscle, because you know you're burning
Speaker 1: a lot more because of that. Yes, So did you
Speaker 1: ever get caught up on the number on the scale.
Speaker 1: I don't use scales anymore. That's why I like now
Speaker 1: I say one thirty ish Um, I don't believe in skills, uh.
Speaker 1: I believe in the way my clothes fit and trying
Speaker 1: on things I have. My phone is probably about to
Speaker 1: go dead because I have so many before and after
Speaker 1: pictures where I'll wear the same shorts and you see
Speaker 1: me like thirty five million times, And to me, that
Speaker 1: helps me know rather than a number on the scale,
Speaker 1: because it can shift so much. If you have something
Speaker 1: that's got a lot of salt and a lot of
Speaker 1: sodium and it, then I mean you'll have water weight
Speaker 1: on and then you'll get all the pressed and upset
Speaker 1: because the number of the scales that so I tell
Speaker 1: people all the time, throw the skill away, period and
Speaker 1: if you just focus, get you a pair of jeans
Speaker 1: that you want to fit into, hang him up in
Speaker 1: the closet, try him on every three weeks and go
Speaker 1: from there. Wow. And even talking about that and how
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about walking every day and keeping the
Speaker 1: closes in the measurement? How long did it take you
Speaker 1: to drop the one and thirty pounds you said this
Speaker 1: third time? January is when I started the actual vegan diet.
Speaker 1: Were playing Sorry, I don't like if we use the
Speaker 1: word diet lifestop anywar October October. Yeah, less than a year,
Speaker 1: a hundred pounds, So it's you. It at all natural,
Speaker 1: no fat burning pills, no niptuck, nothing, no. And you
Speaker 1: know another thing too. I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: times people feel like the older they get an age,
Speaker 1: it's harder to lose weight. Did you see a challenge
Speaker 1: From when you were younger to now it was actually easier? Really?
Speaker 1: Do you think because you knew what the focus was
Speaker 1: or what made it easier? I think I knew what
Speaker 1: the focus was and I knew why I was doing
Speaker 1: it this time. It was for me. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: said that it wasn't for a wedding dress, it wasn't
Speaker 1: for a husband anymore. It was all for me and
Speaker 1: so um, when you have your mindset right and you
Speaker 1: know what you're going for and why you're going for it,
Speaker 1: I believe it's easier to obtain your goals. And when
Speaker 1: you talk about loving me and attaining goals, you realize
Speaker 1: you attack everything that's good for you. And I think
Speaker 1: that's how you know what epitome of love, because even
Speaker 1: you know, talking about being in an attracting that made
Speaker 1: and not one and perfect you want somebody that's going
Speaker 1: love on you, because if you're not loving you right,
Speaker 1: what can you give to me? What can I give
Speaker 1: to my relationship? What can I give to my kids?
Speaker 1: What can I give to my dreams? Because it takes
Speaker 1: a certain curation, it takes a certain mindset. And when
Speaker 1: you're talking about loving yourself, that's like being your own
Speaker 1: your biggest cheerleader, even when you can't or you don't
Speaker 1: feel like you can get up. How did you do that?
Speaker 1: I see your posts, You're like, you know, everything started
Speaker 1: to change once you decided to wake up. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at a quote in your video on Instagram and you're
Speaker 1: playing the Drake song. I'm so proud of you because
Speaker 1: I feel like when we're on this whole path of
Speaker 1: having to lose weight, it's a beat down. Oh you
Speaker 1: need to lose weight. You're not you to go okay,
Speaker 1: Well I'm not gonna go out until I can fit
Speaker 1: into this dress or I don't want to be seen.
Speaker 1: Why is it important to be your biggest cheerleader? Nobody
Speaker 1: knows us like we know ourselves. Um, nobody's there in
Speaker 1: the midnight hour when we're alone, or nobody is in
Speaker 1: our mindset when you have certain thoughts. Um. There's many
Speaker 1: times that people pretend or they go on social media
Speaker 1: and put up their highlight reel and act like everything
Speaker 1: is all would, but really, behind closed doors, they're hurting,
Speaker 1: they're devastated, they're depressed, they're miserable. I was that person.
Speaker 1: I was that person even in twenty nineteen when I
Speaker 1: was making all those posts, um, trying to inspire in her, apply,
Speaker 1: I was ill. I was sick. Um. What I didn't
Speaker 1: tell you is that I had gotten in a car wreck.
Speaker 1: I had a seizure on the highway while driving two
Speaker 1: weeks after I got out of the hospital for the
Speaker 1: surgery with my seventh six year old son in the backseat,
Speaker 1: and we went across the media in a truck tail
Speaker 1: ended us and pushed us down to two hundred foot
Speaker 1: ravine and slammed us into a tree head first. UM.
Speaker 1: I lost my job. They laid me off while I
Speaker 1: was sick three weeks later, and at that point I
Speaker 1: realized that other than my family, it was me, God
Speaker 1: and my kids, and I couldn't depend on anybody else
Speaker 1: at that time to lift me up and pick me up,
Speaker 1: to get up every single day to take care of
Speaker 1: these children, to take care of myself. I hadn't done
Speaker 1: that for years. I had put so much into other
Speaker 1: people and into relationships, hoping, wishing and expecting that they
Speaker 1: would give back to me, and it failed every single time.
Speaker 1: But that's because all of the energy I was putting
Speaker 1: into others I should have been putting into myself. And
Speaker 1: for me, this time it was different. I refused to
Speaker 1: give that energy to anyone else until I first gave
Speaker 1: it to myself and saw what the version of myself
Speaker 1: that I could have become. Wow, I think of what
Speaker 1: you're saying, and I couldn't help but think a little
Speaker 1: duval about what it means to live your best life
Speaker 1: and that means to truly love you. And it's so interesting,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, oh gosh, I probably donna get emotional,
Speaker 1: you know, being somebody that inspires. And it's like, don
Speaker 1: how much are you loving on yourself to do right
Speaker 1: by yourself? Not just for a moment, because you know,
Speaker 1: and I can assess the fact, even how our paths crossed.
Speaker 1: We're women that when we want something, we're gonna get it. Yep,
Speaker 1: We're going to attract it. But I can't explain to
Speaker 1: you what it feels like to say, Okay, don you
Speaker 1: said you want to lose weight, but everything in your
Speaker 1: life that you ever wanted, either you've gotten it already
Speaker 1: or you're clearly on the path and the journey to
Speaker 1: get it. What's stopping you from loving yourself right and
Speaker 1: loving yourself where you can give that? And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of times people aren't having those real conversations
Speaker 1: as to really what's hurting you because we live in
Speaker 1: a society where you're looking for the next distraction and
Speaker 1: how I gotta show up and be on, and that
Speaker 1: sometimes you're not even realizing that you're trying to be on,
Speaker 1: but you're already on and not realizing everything inside is
Speaker 1: actually off. And so one of the things of just
Speaker 1: being a person of striving for greatness and and loving
Speaker 1: it self is to realize the faults are in soul
Speaker 1: and it's not necessary be done. It's like, Okay, we
Speaker 1: got some broken pieces. We gotta put them together piece
Speaker 1: by piece in order to actually fulfill that whole piece. So,
Speaker 1: now that you've gotten on your new path, what's it
Speaker 1: typical day of food looks like for you? Let's see
Speaker 1: when it's a good day. This is a a good question
Speaker 1: to are there cheat days? And do you still eat
Speaker 1: meat sometimes or a nut? So cheat days for me,
Speaker 1: it's different now because this is my lifestyle. Now. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to lose weight anymore. So now I can
Speaker 1: do whatever I want to. Wait to wait, what does
Speaker 1: that feel like? So I saw on a picture and
Speaker 1: it's public information. You're a one seventy five now if
Speaker 1: I check this, Okay, I'm listening. Okay, yes, So it's
Speaker 1: a lifestyle now. So like I said, I can don't
Speaker 1: get whatever I want to. Um, I don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about my weight really fluctuating at this point in time. Um,
Speaker 1: what was your question you ask? I guess my question
Speaker 1: was what was a day of typical food for you?
Speaker 1: And if you did cheat? Okay, So of forth talking
Speaker 1: just a day when I was working trying to lose weight.
Speaker 1: It would be avocado toasts in the morning, um, maybe
Speaker 1: with some black beans on the side. And I would
Speaker 1: do like a fruit smoothie for a snack. Um. Lunch
Speaker 1: would be oh, tacos, do tacos with black beans, maybe
Speaker 1: some rice, um, jackfruit, I love to make jackfruit. Um.
Speaker 1: Dinner or snack would be almonds. I eat a lot
Speaker 1: of almonds for protein. That's some flour seed, tim seed,
Speaker 1: all of that, and then maybe a salad and sweet potato,
Speaker 1: make sweet potato for dinner. And I do a gallon
Speaker 1: of water every When I was losing I did a
Speaker 1: gallon of water every day. Now not as much, but
Speaker 1: really I don't. I think sometimes people forget about how
Speaker 1: important it is for that water. Intake a flush and
Speaker 1: all that stuff out. You gotta keep hydrated. Wow, okay?
Speaker 1: And so on a cheat day, where's the cheap mail
Speaker 1: or cheese snack? Like? So, does that mean do you
Speaker 1: so eat candy? You do? But no dairy whatsoever? Stuff
Speaker 1: means no ice cream chips? Do you have soda or
Speaker 1: Papa times? Okay? I had some earlier to make sure
Speaker 1: you know. I was like like here it's on okay, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: French fries on your rings, fried mushrooms. So then my
Speaker 1: next question for you is, um, what do you feel
Speaker 1: a lot of people are the biggest mixed conceptions about
Speaker 1: being a vegan That you cannot build muscle um if
Speaker 1: you're vegan, that you're not getting enough nutrients um, and
Speaker 1: that you don't get to eat food that tastes good
Speaker 1: and all. That's a lie. Absolutely another thing that I hear,
Speaker 1: and I would love to get your thought process because
Speaker 1: I pay for a meal plan, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: you prep your food yourself. Is it more expensive to
Speaker 1: be a vegan because a lot of people are like
Speaker 1: dismayed about that, and it does take some work, but
Speaker 1: you're nurturing the foods you're putting your body. There's two
Speaker 1: responses to that question. It can be more expensive to
Speaker 1: being a vegan if you eat if you eat a
Speaker 1: lot of processed foods still as a vegan, meaning you're
Speaker 1: going and getting beyond the meat burgers and the frozen
Speaker 1: patties that are like chicken patties this and um just
Speaker 1: eggs to replace your eggs. Now, if you're just being
Speaker 1: a vegan the each fruits and vegetables mode mainly um
Speaker 1: or raw vegan, then though that's cheaper than anything. But yes,
Speaker 1: if you're consuming all the other stuff that it can
Speaker 1: be expensive at Okay, And are there any websites that
Speaker 1: you would recommen bend that people check out who are
Speaker 1: interested in in joining the vegan community other than the
Speaker 1: Black Vegan Chicken Hello or Black Vegan chicken on i UM.
Speaker 1: I share recipes meals um. You can go to my
Speaker 1: YouTube page from there and find the recipes. I actually
Speaker 1: have videos and recipes that I make, but that's what
Speaker 1: I would recommend first, and then from there you might
Speaker 1: be able to find someone. So tell me about it.
Speaker 1: So I speaking into the whole the black vegan chick.
Speaker 1: Tell me about your business. What does that mean, what
Speaker 1: is it about, and what are you hoping to accomplish
Speaker 1: with it? Um. When I first started Black Began chick Um,
Speaker 1: I was coming from the mind to that that this
Speaker 1: has changed my life. Finally I found something that has
Speaker 1: changed my life for good forever. And I feel like
Speaker 1: our community, as the black community, we are so conditioned
Speaker 1: by our past, our history from our ancestors being um
Speaker 1: and slaves and getting the crack food left over to
Speaker 1: make chiplands and all that soul food, and we think
Speaker 1: that we can't live without that type of stuff, and
Speaker 1: then we're dying at the highest rates of high blood pressure, diabetes,
Speaker 1: hypolester all because of what we're feeding. And so I
Speaker 1: wanted to give back to my community, into my culture
Speaker 1: and say look, I'm one of you, and I did it,
Speaker 1: And here is a way that you can do it
Speaker 1: as well. And so my main focus is on the
Speaker 1: African American community and helping them to change and create
Speaker 1: healthy lifestyles and living. And I tell them all the time,
Speaker 1: you don't even have to become a vegan. You can
Speaker 1: just do one need lest meal a day. Let's just
Speaker 1: start there, um, And here's how you can do it.
Speaker 1: Here's some recipes. Try it, you know. UM. That's my
Speaker 1: main focus for that platform. It's growing like crazy now
Speaker 1: out even farther than what I had thought. But I'm
Speaker 1: excited about it because the more I can help individuals
Speaker 1: get healthy and the children don't have to suffer like
Speaker 1: I did with obesity, um for years upon years, or
Speaker 1: they don't have to have these diseases that are most
Speaker 1: of them are curable if you just change the way
Speaker 1: you eat, you know. UM. I just wanted to be
Speaker 1: an example to other people. So that was my main
Speaker 1: reason for it. I love that because I feel like
Speaker 1: it's just not enough resources, or sometimes I feel you
Speaker 1: don't see enough people that look like you, so you
Speaker 1: don't know that it's possible. You don't know that you know,
Speaker 1: afraid to ask the questions so you can receive the
Speaker 1: answers that you don't know, that you don't know m hm, yes,
Speaker 1: And I love I love what you're doing. I love
Speaker 1: that for being a resource because there are so many
Speaker 1: misconceptions like is it too expensive? How can I start
Speaker 1: the fact of being transfer parent in the journey of
Speaker 1: saying it's up and down? And I think even on
Speaker 1: this journey of understanding how to forgive self, like you know,
Speaker 1: looking back, I had made a comment like before I
Speaker 1: actually thought to even call you, I was sitting there
Speaker 1: on the phone with my friend. I said, I can't
Speaker 1: believe I did this to myself, and and not in
Speaker 1: a bad way, but just to say and she said,
Speaker 1: don't what do you mean? And I was like, I
Speaker 1: was just looking at my stomach, not in a bad way.
Speaker 1: It's just whatever. She said. It's not just weight, she said,
Speaker 1: that's whatever her pain, whatever is going through that you
Speaker 1: don't realize that you don't know. And sometimes I think
Speaker 1: as parents we do our best to transform. But I
Speaker 1: look back at my mom and some of the foods
Speaker 1: are things that she would allow me to eat. It's
Speaker 1: something that that should not have been okay, a child
Speaker 1: should not be able to consume that just on limits,
Speaker 1: But you know, we all do the best that we
Speaker 1: can and we know how and you find out differently,
Speaker 1: you know, years later, wide decisions were made the way
Speaker 1: they were made. But I think the thing that's the
Speaker 1: most powerful is understanding the art of forgiveness and understanding
Speaker 1: of being the big cheerleader and how you know it's
Speaker 1: a forever journey. Now, do you have any fear or
Speaker 1: does it ever cross your mind that you may get
Speaker 1: the way back? Oh? Yeah, I thought about that. I
Speaker 1: think about that often. I feel, you know that what
Speaker 1: they call happy weight, Like I'm like when I get
Speaker 1: in a relationship and I give me a booth, like,
Speaker 1: are we gonna be sitting out on a patti 'll
Speaker 1: drink your wine every night, you know, out of town,
Speaker 1: like all of the time. And so that is if
Speaker 1: your mind, especially when you have a business that is
Speaker 1: pretty much around Um, my platform is around the weight loss.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if I do I believe
Speaker 1: in compassion for oneself, Um, why is that important? Because
Speaker 1: there's we're not perfect, none of us are perfect, and
Speaker 1: and I hate I'm sorry, I just don't like the
Speaker 1: over expectation of anybody else having and having that on
Speaker 1: anybody else or having that on myself. Um, I'm human
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make mistakes, and in those mistakes every time,
Speaker 1: if I sit down with those mistakes, that's when I
Speaker 1: learned and I grow the most. I can look at
Speaker 1: them and look at them as an opportunity for growth.
Speaker 1: And so if it happens again, then you know, we'll
Speaker 1: just say, okay, you now, let's figure out how we're
Speaker 1: gonna get back to where we need to go and
Speaker 1: keep it moving. Just like I told you, my arms
Speaker 1: are jiggling out like there wasn't you know a couple
Speaker 1: of months ago. I got to figure out how I'm
Speaker 1: gonna forgive myself when I lived in for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, and let's keep it moving. Mm hmmmmmm. And
Speaker 1: then also one thing that I was wondering, what was
Speaker 1: the process like for shopping for you? Were you the
Speaker 1: type of person that you would wait to buy something
Speaker 1: until you lost weight or you used it as an
Speaker 1: ammunition or were you comfortable with buying clothes that fit
Speaker 1: the size that you were when you were larger and
Speaker 1: versus smaller now. When I was larger, shopping was very
Speaker 1: emotional for me when I first last weight because um,
Speaker 1: and look, I feel the serious coming now. When I
Speaker 1: was a teenager, high school college days, the only place
Speaker 1: I could shop at really with Lane Brand, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a Lane Brand model back then because
Speaker 1: that's the only place I can shopping. And I remember
Speaker 1: walking past or going to the mall with my friends
Speaker 1: and they get shop at all these stores limited, you know,
Speaker 1: express everything, and I couldn't even get my thigh in
Speaker 1: those hands, and I was so jealous. And so now
Speaker 1: when I walk into a store and it's like I
Speaker 1: can wear anything I want to. I mean, like I
Speaker 1: picked up address the other day. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is a small and I was like, you're crazy, like
Speaker 1: to even thinking I was, I couldn't try it on,
Speaker 1: of course because of the COVID stuff, and brought it home.
Speaker 1: I did that. So shopping now is amazing, even though
Speaker 1: I don't buy anything because I don't go anywhere but
Speaker 1: other than workout clothes for the most part, But shopping
Speaker 1: is an amazing experience. And before um, the first time
Speaker 1: I lost weight, I did do what you said. I
Speaker 1: went to Learner New York and Company I think that name.
Speaker 1: I went there and picked out a pair of pants
Speaker 1: and I bought them and tried them on every three
Speaker 1: weeks until I finally got into them and cried and cried, cried,
Speaker 1: cried when I got into him. That is amazing. Congratulations
Speaker 1: on that. Is there anything that you would think or
Speaker 1: would you encourage somebody who is trying to lose weight
Speaker 1: or has aspirations? What would you say to that? I
Speaker 1: would tell them first to know your wife. Um, that's
Speaker 1: one of the most important things to me, because when
Speaker 1: you know your why, it helps you on the days
Speaker 1: that you're down and you're having bad days and when
Speaker 1: you're honest with yourself. A lot of times, our wife
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with us. It has to do
Speaker 1: with everything around us and the people around us, and
Speaker 1: that's usually when people fall short and fail. So that's
Speaker 1: the most important thing to me. It's just if knowing
Speaker 1: your why and sticking to that on the days when
Speaker 1: you don't want to do something, remember your wife. The
Speaker 1: times when you don't want to eat something, or you
Speaker 1: at the party and everybody else is eating crap and
Speaker 1: you gotta sit there and teach your salad. Remember your wife.
Speaker 1: Remember your wife. I would also say change your mindset
Speaker 1: that that's a big thing that a lot of people
Speaker 1: are so we are so conditioned to be negative and
Speaker 1: we don't even realize it. Um some of the people
Speaker 1: just this week, I can't tell you how many emails,
Speaker 1: d M s and messages I have talked to men
Speaker 1: and women that are trying to lose weight, and the
Speaker 1: first thing they say, I hate working out, I hate exercise.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this. Uh such and such
Speaker 1: and such a I can't get vote a bat. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you hear everything you just said? Hey,
Speaker 1: KNT won't do don't want to do this? And I
Speaker 1: was like, change all of that, Like you're bringing negative
Speaker 1: energy to the situation before you even started. So how
Speaker 1: do you expect to be successful in that? Instead of saying,
Speaker 1: you know, working out, I'm going to work out today
Speaker 1: because i want to achieve the X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: I'm going to drink this water because I want to
Speaker 1: achieve X, Y and Z. And so just changing your
Speaker 1: mindset from negativity helps so much, like so much. Wow.
Speaker 1: I remember you talked about being on the Biggest Loser
Speaker 1: and one of the quotes that I thought about years
Speaker 1: ago was I'm tired of trying to survive. I want
Speaker 1: to live m and I actually saw that a contestant
Speaker 1: had said that on the show, and I meant when
Speaker 1: you were auditioning for it, because I feel it's like
Speaker 1: an uphill battle when you're dealing with your way is
Speaker 1: constantly in battle. And I think, like you said, knowing
Speaker 1: the why and changing the way you look at the
Speaker 1: food and realizing for the very beginning when you open
Speaker 1: in your mouth, you said, the thing that changed you
Speaker 1: is yet you saw it as a sense of fuel.
Speaker 1: And if you are a source of life, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: I insert life into life? Life begets life. But I
Speaker 1: implore that because I think when you get to the
Speaker 1: point that you decide to wake up, that's when the
Speaker 1: change comes, when you realize it's not necessarily a struggle,
Speaker 1: it's a joyous occasion because now you've bursted through another limit,
Speaker 1: you've shown yourself to me impossible. I remember when I
Speaker 1: lived to New York before I moved to l A
Speaker 1: and I had lost fifty pounds. The lowest I had
Speaker 1: been was about what one two happiest I've ever been
Speaker 1: was about two fifty. And it was at that point
Speaker 1: when you get to a point where you can lose weight,
Speaker 1: you can really feel like super woman, like you can
Speaker 1: do anything, because it wasn't like I had to fight
Speaker 1: something to achieve. Everything I was going against was myself,
Speaker 1: my own mind, and I think that's the strongest control.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I heard someone say,
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering even your thoughts on it, they say
Speaker 1: that you actually experience more freedom and discipline and having
Speaker 1: the structure. So how important it is to have structure
Speaker 1: out your days? Do you do that or you just
Speaker 1: kind of go with the wind of how you feel
Speaker 1: and what you want to eat? Yeah, these days I do.
Speaker 1: But when I was trying to lose weight, of course,
Speaker 1: it was easier to have a plan. I'm a structured person, um,
Speaker 1: so that was much easier for me to do. You're
Speaker 1: much I feel like people can be more successful when
Speaker 1: you know what you want and where you're going. If
Speaker 1: you're just if you're just out there just living, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean, I'm a free spirit,
Speaker 1: but in certain things you need to have to know
Speaker 1: what you want and where you're going and make up
Speaker 1: a plan to get there. And so yeah, I would
Speaker 1: suggest meal prep or figuring that out beforehand. Well, you
Speaker 1: know what I would suggest I would suggest that anybody
Speaker 1: that wants to lose weight, looking to be inspired and
Speaker 1: seeking a better life, that they need to check you
Speaker 1: out because your story is absolutely phenomenal and it's amazing,
Speaker 1: and I commend you, queen, because anybody that has experienced
Speaker 1: the journey of having to lose weight, it's not for
Speaker 1: the faint of heart. And the only difference between somebody
Speaker 1: that made battle weight somebody that made a battle drug
Speaker 1: addiction addiction to going to the gym anxiety is that
Speaker 1: you can see it on us and it doesn't make
Speaker 1: it any It doesn't make it better or worse, only
Speaker 1: worse in a sense because immediately you can judge and
Speaker 1: say what's going on? And I hope that it's at
Speaker 1: a point now we realize of when we see people,
Speaker 1: to see them and to realize that we all have
Speaker 1: something going on. And just like you know the song
Speaker 1: with ericabout do what you said you may mention before
Speaker 1: bad lady, you're gonna miss your bus dragging all them
Speaker 1: bags like that dot dot dot pack light. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much to now I apreciate you. You're done. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. I've enjoyed this time with you as I
Speaker 1: did when I first met you. Um, I just want
Speaker 1: to say I appreciate you. You You are like to me
Speaker 1: back then when I first met you, which is why
Speaker 1: we stay connected. And I'm so excited and proud of
Speaker 1: your journey. You're doing phenomenal things and I'm inspired by
Speaker 1: you all of the time. Like I watch you and
Speaker 1: look at you, I'm like, that girl is doing it.
Speaker 1: Let me get out my booty and do something. Please
Speaker 1: continue to bless all of these beautiful women that follow
Speaker 1: and men that watch you and follow you. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and you inspire me too, because
Speaker 1: I'm coming back on the journey right now with the
Speaker 1: way lost and working out. And I saw you and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I saw you a new shorts. I
Speaker 1: said wow. I saw you in the three part pictures
Speaker 1: and you had before and you were like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is from cardio. And then you got like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: doing my strength training. I said, you better work. And
Speaker 1: I see you because if anybody has set the fight
Speaker 1: for something, to see what you have done, not once,
Speaker 1: not twice, but three songs, I'm only waiting what's next.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting front rowing center to what you're about
Speaker 1: to do. In any way that I can support you.
Speaker 1: Please let me know because you're a will one, You're
Speaker 1: truly a world one. And is there anything else? Can
Speaker 1: you just let everybody know how they can follow you,
Speaker 1: if you have a website or anything we should look
Speaker 1: out for coming from you. Workout classes, meal plans, no
Speaker 1: workout classes anymore. I used to do training, but you
Speaker 1: can again follow me on I G at this time
Speaker 1: at the Underscore Black Vegan chick Um also has began
Speaker 1: chick on YouTube and soon at Whole five Folds w
Speaker 1: h O L E spell out the number five fold
Speaker 1: um dot com and we will be selling merchandise there
Speaker 1: and that is just basically surrounded about around being whole
Speaker 1: in five different ways, which is spiritually, mentally, financially, nutritionally,
Speaker 1: and physically. So that will be launched in the next
Speaker 1: few weeks. But let me excited about that. So yes,
Speaker 1: follow us there as well in support and one of
Speaker 1: the vegan shirts that are first coming out that I'm
Speaker 1: excited about. I just want to say, when you you
Speaker 1: walk around and public with that on, it grasps people's
Speaker 1: attention and in our community, they want to know a
Speaker 1: black person is walking through Walmart that says Vegan, and
Speaker 1: that's how people start asking questions, and that is an
Speaker 1: opportunity to open up the door so people can change
Speaker 1: their lives and become home. I love it. Wh I
Speaker 1: feel very holding for after this conversation, even if I
Speaker 1: thought it even something bad, I'm seeing you and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you remember your why don't remember your Wow? Well you
Speaker 1: have a very blessed one. Um, thank you so much again,
Speaker 1: and uh we'll talk again. So today's Doughs vitamin is
Speaker 1: all about releasing the access baggage. If you're finding yourself
Speaker 1: in vicious cycles, chances are you're holding onto something. If
Speaker 1: it might be depression and maybe a toxic relationship, It
Speaker 1: may be fear, it may be anxiety. Whatever it is,
Speaker 1: if you're onto it, chances are it's snowing you down.
Speaker 1: So I want to employ you today and forever always
Speaker 1: to pack light. Take note from Erica Baijou and realize
Speaker 1: all you must hold onto is you. Well, that's it
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