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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, This is George. Just a very quick announcement

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Speaker 1: that today's incredible and historic episode of Rue mc allister is,

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Speaker 1: on the one hand incredible and historic, on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: has a few technical issues. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: This episode we had sound issues, we had mike issues,

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Speaker 1: but I say stick with it. It's a very good episode.

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Speaker 1: I think Ruby is incredibly funny and charming, and we'll

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Speaker 1: we'll keep doing with the sound and maybe we will

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Speaker 1: least say special special edition perfect audio version if we

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Speaker 1: if we can in the future, But for now, this

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Speaker 1: is truly one of my favorite recent episodes. RUD be

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Speaker 1: I hate talking to myself. Bye. What's up everybody in

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Speaker 1: New York City? You are listening to a Stradio Lab,

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Speaker 1: the only podcast about life itself. George ham I had

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Speaker 1: something I wanted to say. Okay, okay, it's this. Gucci

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Speaker 1: was a name that sounded so sweet, so said active,

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Speaker 1: synonymous with wealth, style, power, but the name was also

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Speaker 1: a curse. Thank you for that, George um As. If

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Speaker 1: you listen to our Patreon you'll know that George's accent

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Speaker 1: work is incredible and many have called it erotic. George,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel? Well? You know it didn't empower me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. In fact, the one accent I

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Speaker 1: House of Gucci, and I think you know, you need

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Speaker 1: It's like when you do Australian and you have to

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Speaker 1: said active Active Active. I can't do it to your accent,

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Speaker 1: I say, bravo, that's what. Look I'm not I really

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Speaker 1: bad at them. I feel like you've done big voices

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Speaker 1: all the many a time in this show, and you

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Speaker 1: know it's out of character I think for you, but

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Speaker 1: you you crushed every single time. Oh my god, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I have I had to say I am. I would

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Speaker 1: me feel like I am on drugs. Well, you're, of

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Speaker 1: course slurping down lemon lime gatorade. I'm slurping down yellow

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Speaker 1: lemon lime gatorade. I addressed it before we recorded because

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Speaker 1: the point of ridicule in our conversation, Do you think

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Speaker 1: lemon lime is the straightest flavor? Because I would say maybe, yes,

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Speaker 1: lemon lime is straight, I think blue is the straightest. No,

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Speaker 1: you never want to go down that road. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I feel like when you said that, I

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Speaker 1: Weirdly enough, I think it might be blue. Really, what

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Speaker 1: of like red signifies a strawberry flavor. I don't like.

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Speaker 1: that make sense? That makes sense. I think lemon lime

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Speaker 1: just like pretending to be natural, like lemon lion is

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it's still being It's fully evil. There

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Speaker 1: I used to work for Coca Cola. Oh Ruby knows

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Speaker 1: want to check. Mountain Dew actually so straight. This issue

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it literally is so straight control for men,

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Speaker 1: There's like a goddess in the bottle that's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: This might be completely racist, but I think she's Irish.

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Speaker 1: Mountain Dew is the goddess in the Mountain Dew bottle

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Speaker 1: and her name is Mountain Dew. That's the goddess, and

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Speaker 1: Mountain Dew is like a feminist Like it's like she's

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Speaker 1: Like I think that's actually straight. Ultimately, that's a straight instinct,

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Speaker 1: It's very like my dick is in a cage for you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's very Lonely Island. I mean Lonely Island is desperate

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Speaker 1: They want to electrocute their so many All they really

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Speaker 1: It's so old ball centric and we don't want to

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Speaker 1: The straight male instinct to take your balls out and

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Speaker 1: And of course you're trying to find other ways to

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Speaker 1: and put them back in the pouch and keep waking. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we can. I think your podcast is it's

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Speaker 1: done minutes into this episode and we're fucking finished. But

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Speaker 1: George was George was right on there. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: also the obsession with I'm shooting a blank, you know what,

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing is, like fertility is female codd

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Speaker 1: of Mountain Dew, and I like the Irish goddess red

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Speaker 1: green scrunchy and I'm here and I actually do look

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Speaker 1: it's really are in a crisis of masculinity. Women are

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Speaker 1: wearing the scrunches in having kind of a you know,

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Speaker 1: they are in the Beacon. Do you know what genius?

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Speaker 1: Did you invent that? Or is that like a known thing?

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Speaker 1: Wait and see, wait and see, wait and see. But

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Speaker 1: also not to be like I'm an anthropologist because of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, but I argue that you know, lemon lime

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Speaker 1: Protestantism to lemon lime gatorade. That that's like obviously Protestant

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Speaker 1: culture is straight culture. Like obviously, I like, if we're

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Speaker 1: to I just have to answer like one or the

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Speaker 1: other yet And they're like, I have to imagine a

421
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: big clock ticking. Yes, okay, shot it. I'm imagining it. Now,

422
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: let's go. Okay, Ruby, Mama's Boy, Daddy's girl or sister

423
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: wife sister wife Ruby, spring awakening or winter hibernation from awakening, Okay,

424
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Ruby going vegan or going on spring break, Ruby Marcona

425
00:27:54,400 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: Almonds or Mark Zuckerberg. This shouldn't be hard, but like,

426
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: I have so much to say about I guess s

427
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: Marcona Almonds enviously, and what am I sucking? I might

428
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: be proudestant? Actually you know? Okay, Okay, this this one's

429
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: a real stretch. Drew Barry more or less or hold

430
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: that's really really good? Um, obviously, Drew, I'm not. I mean,

431
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm a worn blooded human being, you know what I mean,

432
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: going antiquing or oh god, I'm peaking. I relate to

433
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: both of those. So I mean the real thing is

434
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: is that, Oh god, I'm peeking results with that. Let's

435
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: go to a taking, right, you know what I mean?

436
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: So like what comes? That's sort of a chicken in

437
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: the egg thing. So it is a chicken in the

438
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: egg thing. It is it is. It is the antique

439
00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: dealer born from peaking, you know what I mean? Yeah,

440
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: obviously I'm going antiquing. Okay, Wondering to rule them all?

441
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: Or DJ play my fucking song. DJ pla um signing

442
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: an overall deal or signing off for the weekends. See

443
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: you guys, Monday signing an overall deal. Huge, She's a mule. Wow.

444
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: And you know what, despite the sound issues, despite the

445
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: technical snaff foos, I think you absolutely knocked it out

446
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: of the park. Thank you, thank you, thank you. So

447
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: what did I score? It's gonna be I would say

448
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: in eight and fifty out of one thousand dubs, but

449
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: I will say, yeah, look, you also were disqualified. You

450
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: were just qualified multiple times over, and that's just that's

451
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: maybe the first time that's ever happened. But interestingly, being

452
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: disqualified gives you more points in this game, which in

453
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: other games that would be you know, following the rules exactly.

454
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm gonna follow these rules. It's tough

455
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: when not following the rules is built in, so then

456
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: when you don't follow them, it's unclear whether you're winning

457
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: or losing, because it's like, maybe the most radical thing

458
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: is to just follow the rules. I mean, that's really

459
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: hard for that's really really really really Yeah. Okay, Ruby,

460
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: are you a rule follower a rule breaker? Um? I

461
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: can't read that? Well, did you say, you can't read

462
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: that well. I can't read that well, darling. I actually

463
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: that's a very interesting question. I'm, you know, not to

464
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: be totally forthcoming out. I mean, I am, I go,

465
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: I come in, I go. I am not Jewish. Okay,

466
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: I reveal that I'm not Jewish to the world and

467
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: be honest. Um, okay, I'm pre menstrong. And when I'm

468
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: pre menstrung and paranoid, I'm paranoid. I'm a parent. I

469
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: don't have that problem. And um, when I'm paranoid, I'm

470
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: convinced I'm breaking the law feeling. Yeah, Okay, Once again,

471
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: it goes back to you being on trial, like this

472
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: is like it's just like this isn't this is major.

473
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: I do think we're having a breakthrough. Like I think

474
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: the main theme of this is like you basically like

475
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: you're on trial, whether it's from your ex boyfriends or

476
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: culturally or with the law or so. It's like, I'm

477
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm I feel like there's part of my DNA that

478
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: cannot follow rules. Yeah, which I'm like, I'm constantly breaking

479
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: the law, like I like, I constantly feel like I'm

480
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: breaking up I constantly, which is crazy, which is I

481
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: think why I initially feel very comfortable and like, obviously

482
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: I was raised with many Okay, amen, but I think

483
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, when I like read like Jean was like, wow,

484
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: this is the first person that understand well. And then

485
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: obviously he understands what it's like to be a criminal

486
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: because he was a criminal. Yeah. Well, also criminality was

487
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: just like I mean, it was part and parcel of

488
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: also being gay. Like it's just like regardless of his

489
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: specific past, like it was like criminality was tied to

490
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: discourses around homosexuality. Yeah. Also, like growing up, everybody thought

491
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: I was always on drugs. Wow, I'm really like taking

492
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: it down. I want from Automa. No, no, no, no,

493
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: this is perfect, this is good. But so everybody always

494
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: everyone always assumes that I'm like like more like like

495
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: dancing on the table naked, Like everybody assumes that I'm

496
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: wild and free like a lady song. But I'm I'm

497
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: really not. You know that you're yeah, you're in fact

498
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: afraid of the authorities exactly. I'm a constantly before and

499
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: constantly and before and maybe that's also my affinity with

500
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: Jewish culture. Okay, let's down, because I always yeah, there

501
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: was like I always have this fear of being drafted

502
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: as a child ruby into the army, into the I

503
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: d s I'm just terrified of being drafted in Okay,

504
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: that's why is this? Like I'm sorry, was this like

505
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: an Iraq war thing? Like you were afraid there was

506
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: going to be a draft? It was raf war thing.

507
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: I I was really scared my appearance. I was like,

508
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: I guess I'm dying in war. I was like, yeah,

509
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: dying the war. And then my parents were like, you're

510
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: a woman, Like you're not going to be drafted even

511
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: if they called the draft, and I was like, I

512
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 1: know they're going to reverse the toles. And then I

513
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: knew in my bones that the more would go on

514
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: so long that when I was eighteen able to be

515
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: drafted right on, like I knew, I was like, this

516
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: is gonna be fourth. Well, you were right about that part.

517
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: I was right. And then to the point I was like,

518
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: don't tell me that I'm a girl. I know they're

519
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: going to change the rules. Don't tell me that, mom

520
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: and dad. And then to the point at which my

521
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: parents like, we're like, okay, well let's let's look at

522
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: your feet, see it. And then they were like, well

523
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: you have feet, so you're not going to be drafted,

524
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: And that was the only thing that would calm me down.

525
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: How old were you at this time? Eight? An eight

526
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: year old girl having like a recurring fear that she's

527
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: going to be drafted into the Iraq war. It's kind

528
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: of like a twist on sort of a haunted child totally. Yeah. Well,

529
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: especially you being like kind of in a state of

530
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, a constant sugar high from the otter pops

531
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: around adults in these backyard barbecues, and then occasionally you

532
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: would just like it would hit you and you'd be like,

533
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to war. They don't want

534
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: to go to war, and I couldn't go to sleep,

535
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean like I was like upset. Then

536
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: that was around the same time that that pod song

537
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: we are we Are the Youth of the Nation. I mean, yes,

538
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: of course you thought that was drafting you. Yeah, like

539
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: they made this song so I would be like ready

540
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: for battle, and like, what's crazy is that? I think

541
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: that song was used for an army recruitment video. That

542
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: does not surprise me. Like it's a hundred percent we

543
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: are the youth of the nation. I mean I'm saying

544
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: that out let we are the youth. Oh my god.

545
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: But anyway, um, so, yeah, I was terrified of going

546
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: to war and sometimes honestly, and you are the point

547
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: at which like one in Lockdown happened. Don't even get

548
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: me started about the and should I was saying when

549
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Lockdown happened, Like, would you say you're like conspiratorial? No,

550
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: because I don't believe that there's like a bigger plan.

551
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: I just I'm really afraid of, like being a refugee.

552
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: Youth keeps going, so you would you say cleaning most older?

553
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: These are my biggest fears. Can I ask you something

554
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: and don't take this wrong way? Like, do you think

555
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: there's a certain kind of main character syndrome at play

556
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: here where somehow out of everyone in the world, do

557
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: you think you're going to be drafted and or a

558
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: refuge I don't think I'm going to be I see,

559
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: I see it's a more of a communal Yeah, I

560
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: don't think I could take it. And I think I

561
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 1: think George, I think you would be an amazing generally

562
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: would Yeah, Sam, I think you totally have the survival

563
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: skills studio. I don't think I have the survival skills

564
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: to you, But I feel like if you were to

565
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: get drafted, you would I they would find a position

566
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: for you, like that would be in the army band.

567
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: You would be kind of a project manager totally. I would.

568
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: I would, yeah, project manager, but like a consultant, a general, yeah, consultant,

569
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: work on the social media side, work on social media.

570
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: You would do the costumes for the ads where they

571
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: used the po D song to recruit. Yeah. Yeah, and

572
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: I'd be like, let's do let's do a remix of

573
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: We Are the Nation. I think that's really going to

574
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: hit with the gen z s. Yeah yeah, yeah. Well

575
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: so yeah, those are my main fears. Okay, okay, So

576
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: it's interesting because it's not I feel like, now it's

577
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: different than being on trial, because I mean, being on

578
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: trial is one thing, but being person secuted as another. Yeah,

579
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: and I think, I mean, but I don't feel like

580
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: persecuted in the way. It's like I'm very I'm afraid

581
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: of being sort of swept up in like a government,

582
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, the government, a calamity. I get swept up.

583
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: I get like sort of like, oh, suddenly I'm in

584
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: this situation, not necessarily persecuted for who I am, but

585
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: just sort of like by proxy, like like you fear

586
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: legal bureaucracy. That's exactly what it is across the board.

587
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: That's what the fear is, fear of araucracy. I understand

588
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: that that's a very like that makes sense like cough esque. Yes,

589
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: it's like it's literally it's like being afraid that like

590
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: you essentially in the grand scheme of things don't matter,

591
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 1: so like if one thing goes wrong, you could end up. Yeah,

592
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: it's like if the computer puts out the wrong, wrong number,

593
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: and like the reality of that happening all the time.

594
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean that happens later. I think I bring it

595
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: upon myself a little bit. But like I've been that

596
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: person that's like the government called me and you all

597
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: at three million dollars, you know, like I'm that person

598
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: that has the wrong that gets the wrong paper. Have

599
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: you had your identity stolen? Yes? Yes, what are you trying? Yeah,

600
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: of course I fall for I mean like if I've

601
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: had my identity stolen, I've had you know, the government

602
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: claiming that I need to like give them my house,

603
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: Like I don't think, like it's I'm and then I'm

604
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: on the phone like that time I once I once

605
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: fully gave my social Security number to someone who held

606
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: me me too. And I don't know what came of that.

607
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: I did that recently, like a year ago. I am trying,

608
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like trying to grow up and trying

609
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: to like answer the calls from like you know, Spectrum

610
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: and you know whatever, you know, like whatever. I'm trying

611
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: to just be like paying my bills on time. Whatever.

612
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: So I fucking picked up the phone and then they

613
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: were like, well, be Macsta, what's your Social Security number?

614
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: And I'm like absolutely, yeah, with pleasure, sir. And it's like,

615
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: what are you Because it's the fear of bureaucracy, Like

616
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: that goes back to like I just want to get

617
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: the numbers and you know like that. But that's really

618
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we wanted to talk about boyfriends, but I

619
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: think bureaucracy. Bureacracy is a good topic. Is the straightest thing.

620
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: I actually agree. I like it. I mean, I mean,

621
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: I think it is the I think it is the

622
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: straightest thing ever created in the entire history of the world.

623
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean because it's like simultaneously rules, I mean,

624
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: but also incompetence. So it's like the two pillars of

625
00:40:53,719 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: straight culture. Rules and incompetence and just the the emotionalless unwaving. Yeah,

626
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: we wasteland of tumbleweeds and salt. Yeah, it's like just

627
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: the worst. It's the worst. It's the worst. I get

628
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: like very very angry at like laws sometimes, Like I

629
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: get so mad when like something doesn't make sense because

630
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: it's just like this can easily make sense, but it's

631
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: like the whole system in order to change it, and

632
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: it's like why do we have it? This one really

633
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: takes you off? It really, it makes me so mad.

634
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: And like when people really respect the law, I'm like

635
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: grow up, Like we're also historically the law is like

636
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: literally the reason it's always changing is because it is

637
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: always flawed. Like that's by definition what it is. Well,

638
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: going back to boyfriends, recently, my friend has had a

639
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: boyfriend issue. Say it okay and we're just gonna end there,

640
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: and um, and I was, well, you know, your boyfriend's

641
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: incredibly self righteous and wants to be a good person.

642
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: And that's always a red flag. Never someone that wants

643
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 1: to be like I'm good, I'm you know, like I'm following.

644
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: You know, that's always a red flag. And I have

645
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: to tell you between the t the t dot com

646
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: it's a sign of alcoholism. Wait really, please expand just

647
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: for everyone listening, Like, our original topic is gonna be boyfriends,

648
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: and we switched to bureaucracy, we're now I would say, like,

649
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to get caught up in the bureaucracy

650
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: of choosing a topic, so I'm just going. But what

651
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like, never date a guy that wants

652
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: to follow the rules to a t, but never dat

653
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: a guy that wants to break you. Don't date somebody

654
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: that's a hell bent on breaking the rules following right, Okay,

655
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: never date those people. Ed bar you're I think you're

656
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: absolutely right, because it's like, on the one and you

657
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: don't want to date someone who you know would like

658
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: follow the rules enough to do so, you know, it's like, well,

659
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: I have no personality amount, I'll just do what I'm told.

660
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: And then on the other hand, there's nothing worse than

661
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: someone who just like likes being a rule breaker for

662
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: no reason. Well, in many ways that's the current day

663
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: being Republican. It's just like, well, you can't tell me anything,

664
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: I won't do it. Well, I dated like a French

665
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: person who is addicted to breaking rules, and then I

666
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: dated an American person who was convinced he was changing

667
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: the world. Well, and there you have it, and both

668
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: I do think it's funny with French people where it's

669
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: like they're breaking the rules, but French people were never

670
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 1: were never actually going to break the rules. Like it's

671
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: like he's breaking the rules by what like writing a

672
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: play like and then the American person similarly is changing

673
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: the world by what founding a startup. Like neither of

674
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: them are going to have any lasting impact on the world,

675
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: and they're both gonna die, you know. But it's just

676
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: it's like inflate bureaucracy in in those two pillars, in

677
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: those two binaries, it's like it's it's great expectation on yourself.

678
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's the it's the hubrist of having

679
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: a great expectation. It's like you're kidding yourself. You're kidding

680
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: yourself because at the end of the day, the I R.

681
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: S can just go, maybe you all a million dollars.

682
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: It's like you don't like you know what I mean.

683
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: It's like, I think in that way, the bureaucracy is

684
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: a great equalizer. It's like you can do whatever you

685
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: want because at the end of the day, the day

686
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: paper might be burnt in a fire, you know what

687
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: I mean. And then you're you know, it's like we

688
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: don't bureaucracy, you know, it's it's just like, try to

689
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: be good, try to follow it roles. I do want

690
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: to go back to one claim there are um the

691
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: righteousness linked to alcoholism. Yeah, I want to know more

692
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: about that. I just think alcoholism this is like, really,

693
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: oh my god. I think alcoholism spikes your blood sugar.

694
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: That's indisputiful, right, and it throws you into a binary,

695
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: literally a binary high and low and high and low

696
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: and low. And I think, weirdly and I've did and

697
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: a view mom, I mean whatever that people that need

698
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: alcohol to live are literally operating on a shocking binary

699
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: of high and low, like a blood sugar binary. And

700
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: then that and then depress and then that kind of

701
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: that instills their morality in some way. So then okay,

702
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: so they're operating in black and white in many different

703
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: areas of their life, including their personal ethics. Yes, okay,

704
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of about goal likes weirdly

705
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: are are They're like I'm born, do they or they're

706
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: like I'm actually really good and I'm a great son,

707
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: right because you're like, Okay, that's weird. That's interesting. I

708
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: guess in film and TV that is true that the

709
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: two depictions of alcoholics are like either really well meaning

710
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: people who you know want so badly to be good

711
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: or like or someone you know who's like evil, yeah,

712
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: and throwing it all away, which is just also like

713
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: a repressed desire to be good. Like it's just it's

714
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: all about good. It's all like alcoholism is just like

715
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: I just want to be good. I just want to

716
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: be good. Okay. I hate to break it to you, youth,

717
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: I have to say I've learned so much about like

718
00:46:54,239 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: different visions of society. I've really learned a lot. I

719
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: think I feel like whenever I talked to you Ruby,

720
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm um in shock, I'm in awe. To see the

721
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: world through your eyes is really something special. It's intense.

722
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, but you know what, And that's

723
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: so that's the whole thing about boyfriends that I think

724
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: is very straight that I'm always I actually had a

725
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: fight with my boyfriend last night where I saw him

726
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: in my apartment and I asked where my roommate was,

727
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, I guess you care more about

728
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: your roommates that you know, Like he was being funny,

729
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: I guess. And I was just like, that's how funny

730
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: and that's annoying. And I'm always painted as the bad

731
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: the bad girl in a relationship. Do you tend to

732
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: date good guys like nice guys? No? I dat total

733
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: freaks And that's why I'm just like, why are you

734
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: painting me as a right well misogyny Yeah, but that

735
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: the last. Yeah, And like, boyfriends are really the ultimate

736
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: test of bureaucracy, and say that link link those together. Okay,

737
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: so so ruby link boyfriends and bureaucracy. Boyfriends. Bureaucracy is

738
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: like this, boyfriends are random and not only are they

739
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: addicted to good and bad, they're also randomly like, actually,

740
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: you broke the last. I hate to like, boyf you

741
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: never you Everyone's looking for a Bonnie, not a Clyde.

742
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: I would never not be like she did it, Like

743
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: every boyfriend would be like she did it? She actually

744
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: actually she committed the ground, do you know what I mean? Like,

745
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: no boyfriend would stick their knuck out for their fucking girl?

746
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: Who did? Who in history has ever done that? So,

747
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: so it's interesting. This is like bringing it back to everything.

748
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: It's bringing back to being on trial, it's bringing it

749
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: back to bureaucracy, it's bringing it back to persecution complex,

750
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: and it's bringing back to boyfriends. So what I'm getting

751
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: is that like, basically, the people who run society and

752
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: bureaucracy are all a bunch of boyfriends and they are

753
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: on a mass scale treating the citizens of the world

754
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: as their girlfriends. Yeah, and being like, actually you're bad,

755
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: and actually like I love you so much, like a

756
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: beautiful and then randomly it's like, actually I just I

757
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: just got a phone call and it's it just was

758
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: revealed that you are illegal. So in the so so

759
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: so in the broadest possible sense, what you're saying that, um,

760
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is gaslighting America, I'm saying, but you know, arguably,

761
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: like we all I'm saying is the I R S

762
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: has the same book that Donald Trump has all have

763
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: the same alcoholic boyfriend. And I thought they are the

764
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: alcoholic boyfriend. Yeah, they're all. They're all the alcoholic boyfriends. Okay,

765
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: that's what I think, because yeah, yeah, can you can

766
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: you debate me? No? I think this is literally it's

767
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: like the most encapsulation of the personalist political I've ever heard,

768
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: because it's like, how, I mean, you guys are I

769
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: hate to say it, I'm am I outing you guys

770
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: as gay? I mean gay and boyfriend having boyfriends. Both

771
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: have boyfriends. We both have boyfriends. Gay boyfriends are a

772
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: little different. Of course, we can't get into that, so

773
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm not so I can't be like, yeah, boyfriends are random, right,

774
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: because I was talking about obviously SI, how their real

775
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: boyfriends are. Obviously we know from media. Sure, um that

776
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: you know they're just moody. Just how our boyfriends are moody.

777
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: They're so random, They're so they are so random. Also,

778
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: Seacole like this says our boyfriends do this. They go

779
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: to a beautiful, vivacious woman like myself and they go,

780
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: you're actually messy, and I go, okay, sure, I start

781
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: peeting up and then as her boyfriend doesn't clean up.

782
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: How bureaucratic is that? That is literally like taxes. That's

783
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: literally what taxes are. That's how random taxes are. You're

784
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: actually a fucking mess, right, you go, You're a mess,

785
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: which you owe us thirty dollars. I'm trying to figure

786
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: out how to get you that money. I'll be right back.

787
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: And then they go and then they're like then there,

788
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: then they go to sleep. What does the I R

789
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: S do for you? Nothing? Nothing? Yeah, it's one dimension,

790
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: it's one directional, like they're they're not, because then what

791
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: are you getting from paying taxes? I mean clearly not healthcare? Yeah.

792
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: Actually when I'm not to loop it back in a

793
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: brilliant way, I'm just getting oh, is my is my

794
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: tax dollar is going inevitably to my inevitable dry yes, well,

795
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: and to more bureaucracy. I mean, you're paying for your

796
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: own you're paying for your own work. That I'm that

797
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: I am terrified to fight in right and and are

798
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: morley against? I assume against Obviously it goes without saying

799
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: for the years at home, I am wearing a shirt

800
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: that says rock and Role. Obviously I'm against the war, um,

801
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: you know. And it's like, oh, if my tax dollars

802
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: going to my inevitable nightmare, nightmare? Right? Yeah, boyfriends, I'm

803
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 1: just my brain has been like turned to absolute much

804
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: like it isn't. I feel like I'm at a ted

805
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: talk more than i feel like I'm like maybe allowed

806
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: to be like uh like I'm like at a director

807
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: Q and A where I can be like, so what

808
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: made you think of that? But like to engage in it,

809
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 1: Like I can't even begin to try to like sort

810
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: of have an opinion about this. I mean, it's interesting

811
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: because on the one hand, it's so what you're saying

812
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: is so complex. On the other hand, maybe it boils

813
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: down to like you're describing, like a form of patriarchy,

814
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: like boyfriends are in charge and they are all gas

815
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: lighting and then all all people who are not in

816
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: the ruling class are female coded. Yeah, and they're fertile,

817
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: and they're fertile and that scares the ruling class because

818
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: all they want to do is juggle their ball. And

819
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: that's why they make me do. And that's trying to

820
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: not to take it down really really really sad, but

821
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: really sad now. But that's why you know, it comes

822
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: back to that insane conversation about pro choice for life,

823
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: because it's about the fertile versus then yes, yes, yes,

824
00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: And it's about creating bureaucracies to um, creating bureaucracy to

825
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: police fertility exactly, And that's what we're talking about, and

826
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: that's the that's what bureaucracy. That's that's what boyfriends do well,

827
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: and not to be insane, but also I will out myself.

828
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. I've had an abortion, so I can

829
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: say that's okay that you know, the guys that want

830
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: to juggle their balls around, which is real, that's a

831
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: real instinct. You tapped so deep on that you want lights,

832
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: camera action. They want to juggle their balls, and I

833
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: that's the present, the desire, and that's why they want to.

834
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: That's why they want no, because abortions are the closest

835
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: things to juggling your balls for taking your fertility sacks

836
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: and going I'm in charge now. So so they're jealous

837
00:54:53,680 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: that women can juggle their balls. Oh my god, George,

838
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's large you that. Yeah, yeah, I did this,

839
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: and I'm insane because I really feel like I can

840
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: finally have a night's rest. The first night, I'll probably

841
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: be able to sleep. But that's the thing. Abortion is

842
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: the jealousy of the women's juggler. Yeah, what is jealousy

843
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: of kind of being like, well, what can I do?

844
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: All I can do is as a man, you know,

845
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: It's like all I can do is like come, that's

846
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: all you can do. And then if the woman is lying,

847
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: if it's a ward child or that whole thing, the

848
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: discretion of is that child mind? You know, that whole

849
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: that's the you know, obviously the crops of all misogyny ever,

850
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: but um yeah, but ultimately it's just about like, yeah,

851
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: women get to juggle their balls. Well wow, I mean,

852
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: Carl Harvard, are you kidding? May be afraid to fundraise

853
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: the like this? Well because they are the boyfriends, that's right,

854
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's true. Don't get a twisted day.

855
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: Are the boyfriends? Harvard is the most boyfriend institution possible. No,

856
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean I have a cousin that went to Harvard

857
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: and that's all I'll say, and and and no further questions,

858
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: your honor, her questions, your honor. Also, similarly to this conversation,

859
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: I have a friend that's at the Glene Maxwell trial.

860
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: What why? I know two people who are covering it?

861
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: How because they're you know, cool, cool journalists, investigative whatever,

862
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: Well you know no about past past guests. No, MEI

863
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: Fry is covering the Glene triald. She's there or she

864
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: was there, and I think she may be there every day. Yeah,

865
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: is it ticketed? Or do you just like it's like

866
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: it's it's like how well, I don't know, I don't know.

867
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: But it's like there's like a press line of people

868
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: like in the press that that go to like coverage

869
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: for and then they sit in the they sit in

870
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: the dallys, but you know, like they are taking out

871
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: her vibrators and stuff and being like your honor is

872
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: that insane? I mean, she does complicate this. She complicates

873
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: the narrative a literally because she is the bureaucracy. She's

874
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: a bureaucratic boyfriend, like and not just that, but like

875
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, she herself is evil, of course, but she

876
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: also is like the bureaucratic arm of the Epstein operation.

877
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: Like he almost outsourced the like organizaginal element to her. Yeah, which,

878
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: on the one hand, yeah, it's it's difficult. She's obviously

879
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: a complicated figure working for the boyfriends, obviously working for

880
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: the boyfriend, but also an extension of the boyfriend. And

881
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: then she's in the boyfriend's she it's just her whole

882
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: life has been in the boyfriend's house. It's insane if

883
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: even about it, Like she's in prison obviously a boyfriend.

884
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: She was like, what's helping to every empty's the biggest

885
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: boyfriend of them all, and she's at trial the boyfriend's

886
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: hockey game. Right, it's just crazy. I mean, she it's

887
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: it's intense. How a'm that story? Is? You're really that

888
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: mother chucking boyfriend story? Is? I think you point something

889
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: out that when you are with the boyfriend for so

890
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: much time, you kind of become the boyfriend. You become

891
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: the boyfriend. And like, don't get it twisted. If you're

892
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: working for the boyfriends at all ends in you and

893
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: court then opening a chest and looking at your vibrator,

894
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: that's right, that's so don't get it twisted. No escape route,

895
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It all ends with

896
00:58:50,600 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: that is is this yours? Oh my god? Well, I

897
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: think we've truly covered it. I think I think I

898
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: think we're ready for a final segment. If you ask

899
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: me a final segment, Um, George, will you explain the

900
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: final segment? I would love to. I would absolutely love to.

901
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: It would be my greatest honor. I actually just reached

902
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: a different register in my voice where I feel like

903
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: it's it's almost like raspy. Yeah, it's and I'm now

904
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of it. But I can. Our

905
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: final segment Ruby is called shoutouts, and in this segment

906
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: we kind of given homage to a classic art form

907
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 1: of straight culture, which is a radio shout out. Think

908
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: t r L in the early two thousands, think you're

909
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: calling Z one hundred and shouting out your homies back home.

910
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: We are giving a shout out to something that we like,

911
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: something that's making us happy, something that we want to

912
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: draw attention to. Sam, do you have something? I do

913
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: have something, and it's a little bit basic, but I

914
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: think that's the power of it. Okay, okay, what's up

915
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: everybody out there, all my little listeners. I would like

916
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: to give a huge, basic and predictable shout out to

917
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: the HBO series Succession. I know you're thinking, yeah, bitch,

918
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: I know, I watch it. Everyone's always tweeting about it.

919
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm actually tired of hearing about it. And I want

920
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: to say they're tweeting about it because it's good. And

921
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: this backlash of people being like, oh, I don't want

922
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: to hear you talk about Succession, it's like, well, maybe

923
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: grow up because it's a good show and that's why

924
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: people are talking about it, Like perhaps maybe you as

925
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: like the counterculture are not like like the arbiter of Taste.

926
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you're just like I haven't seen the show yet,

927
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: and when you watch it, you'll actually quite enjoy it.

928
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: Succession is a good show. One this season I am loving.

929
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: I caught up recently. And yes, maybe it's a toxic

930
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: fan base. Yes, when things trend so big and it's annoying,

931
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm a little annoyed. Then when I watched the show,

932
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: I sit with it and I say, well, damn, it's

933
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: fucking good and credit with credit is due, and I

934
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: feel bad for Nicholas Braun. I feel like he's being

935
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: stalked in this. That is my shout out, thank you

936
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: and good night to all um. Wow that was great. Yeah,

937
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: how does that make you, guys feel? I just have

938
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: so Yeah, obviously I have so much to say, but

939
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: I agree and I love Succession. I read the first

940
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: few episodes, I was like, I'm not sure we're you know,

941
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: the first episode of this new season, I was like,

942
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this is gonna be I think

943
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: this season has had a slow start. I have to

944
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: say I'm still I'm like all in and I'm ready

945
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: to see what they taken and I trust them. Yeah.

946
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: The birthday episode was I got back in and I

947
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: need Jeremy is strong, is sad on that light. He

948
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: is embodying the I mean talk about I mean whatever,

949
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he is. God, Jeremy's wrong, marry me. But

950
01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: actually no, honestly no, But you don't want to do that. No,

951
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. But I love I

952
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: love your work. And he does that like he's really

953
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: taking on the entire the entire field history of the

954
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: masculine world. It's so intact. It's like when he gets sad,

955
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: like when and you see the whole the holes, like

956
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: you see the concave. Oh god, when that last scene

957
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: when he's in the sleeping bag from his childhood, it's like,

958
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: oh god, it's just so good. George. Yeah, I'll go, um,

959
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: what's up freaks and losers out there? I want to

960
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to blankets. That's right. I

961
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: love blankets. It's winter and I want to be cozy.

962
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: The other day I realized blankets are such a unique

963
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: article of fabric in the world because they are not clothes,

964
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: but they're also not really betting. They're kind of halfway

965
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: in between. You can have them They're the only thing

966
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: you can have like the room of your house, and

967
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: then whenever you want, you can just have a shawl

968
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: that's made out of gorgeous wolf fabric and just they're

969
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: one of those things. I don't know what I'm trying

970
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: to say, but I just I really recently realized how

971
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: impactful blankets have been to um to, to the practice

972
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: of surviving winter. And I'm gonna go online and I'm

973
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: going to purchase so many blankets and I'm gonna put

974
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: them all in a in a little chest, and then

975
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: when people come over to my apartment, they can each

976
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: choose their own blankets in the way that like you

977
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: would choose your own like mug if I was having

978
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: you over her coffee. And it can be an extension

979
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: of your personality and everyone can know, oh, that's my blanket,

980
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: and and then they can put them back and then

981
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: we can you know, the whole. It's a it's a

982
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: form of community building. And I love to be engulfed

983
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: in a blanket. I love that. I love your blanket,

984
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: and I mean, I'm I'm dead. I love It's a

985
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: great party theme. Um Ruby. Whenever you already feel free

986
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: to shout out m yam, but I'm gonna do this one.

987
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna piggyback off of your staff. Okay, Hey, what's up?

988
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: Uh so good to be here? Yeah? Whoa on Montiro? Um,

989
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: I just want to shut out real quick to Karen

990
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: Colkin's bracelets. He always has bracelets on and dresses like

991
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: Rope and Roy but has a has a lot of bacets,

992
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: and he has a lot of brains, and he has

993
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: Naippola Sean And that is crazy and that you are

994
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: expressing yourself, Karen, you're freshing yourself. You choose the tightest

995
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: little button up shirt. You're busting out of these, but

996
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: you roll up your sleeves just like men Roy and

997
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: then you go, I have five leather bracelets. Dare dare you?

998
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: How dare you? That's what you say? And you are

999
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: so authentically in New York City and you are a

1000
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: part of the Culkin family, which is the other American

1001
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: dynasty that the barrymore So, I love you. That was

1002
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: incredible and you're so right about about busting it is

1003
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: that he's wearing Child's extra extra small shirts, these tight

1004
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,479
Speaker 1: little button bounts he's always got there painted on. They're

1005
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: painted on him and he is wearing I mean, and

1006
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: you don't know what I'm talking about. I do know.

1007
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, we've I immediately know exactly what you're

1008
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: talking and I like you bringing up that detail, no idea.

1009
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: Here's what's truly crazy is that I see interviews with

1010
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: him where it's clear that he's still wearing the outfit

1011
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: for like they're they're filming the interview like on set,

1012
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: and like he's still wearing the outfit from the last scene.

1013
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: So then that makes you think, wait a minute, he

1014
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: went put on the bracelets and then did the interview.

1015
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: He didn't even have time to change his clothes, but

1016
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: he needed the bracelets to feel like himself. The weird

1017
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: thing is I have seen him in the wild and

1018
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: he does just wear the same clothes he wears on succession,

1019
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: Like interesting, So I wonder if he's just like, yeah,

1020
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: this is what I arrived in. Yeah, it's like I

1021
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: feel like I really think he might if you might

1022
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: seem like, oh, they're between a take and he goes

1023
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: back to his trailer and books on the bracelets, but

1024
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: which maybe he does, because it seems O c D

1025
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: that that many bracelet like he has so many layers

1026
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: foots like it definitely seems like imbued in a magical

1027
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: energy that we cannot understand, you know. Um, but he

1028
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: is looking like Roman Royal with bracelets on. I mean

1029
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: it's amazing. I mean like it's it's it's and that

1030
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: is what style is. It is humiliating. How attracted to him?

1031
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: I am really interesting? And I know this is like

1032
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: the most like over done topic, but like truly I'm

1033
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: actually attracted every man on Succession. I want one way

1034
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: what I want to say with Tom wats Um, I'm

1035
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: attracted to Kendall. I'm attracted to Roman. I'm attracting obviously.

1036
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: Um wait, we can't, we have we have to end

1037
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: this episode. Sorry, but if you are in the cast

1038
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: of Succession, come over. We'd love to have you on.

1039
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: Really do a Succession episode of Stradio. We should, honestly,

1040
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Yeah, yeah we should maybe, well

1041
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: maybe we'll do that for the finale. And yes, what

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Speaker 1: if you're a boyfriend out there, stop what were you doing?

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Speaker 1: Take stock, check in and reflect and maybe try anything else,

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Speaker 1: absolutely anything else. Ruby, Thank you so much for doing

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Speaker 1: the podcast. This was a whirlwind, a delight. Um I'm

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Speaker 1: changed forever. We'll be thinking about it for years, decades. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I'm changed forever, like just being in the lab with

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Speaker 1: you guys, you know, like I was in the lab,

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Speaker 1: and that's what happened. Otherwise, for either you never know

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Speaker 1: what's going to come up in the lab. It's like

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Speaker 1: being in the therapist chair. Truly, like I immediately was honest,

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Speaker 1: I immediately we need we all knew we needed to

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Speaker 1: get to the bottom of suthing, I know, and to

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Speaker 1: the bottom we did, and in fact went right down

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Speaker 1: to the basement. I would say, down to the basement,

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Speaker 1: to the point at which we go what's left? I

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Speaker 1: guess we can talk about succession. That's what happened. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: are beautiful, Okay, bye bye. Will D