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Speaker 1: and Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 2: Week six is in the books.

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Speaker 3: Hit Mike up at swallowdot. You can find me at

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Speaker 3: Dan Byer on Fox. And Ian Roddy is the executive producer.

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Speaker 3: You can find him at Ian Roddy Underscore. A week

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Speaker 3: that had a little bit of this, a little bit

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Speaker 3: of that, not too much excitement points wise in London.

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Speaker 2: It ends on a soggy night in the c Mike.

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Speaker 3: Week six is in the books, but with some uh,

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Speaker 3: with some infirmer reports that are stacked up to the ceiling.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really just one after another and it's the wait

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Speaker 4: and see a lot of well maybe Week seven.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 4: When we talk about pukin Nakua, we know Ian's jets

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Speaker 4: already reeling and infighting. Garrett Wilson being at the heart

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Speaker 4: gone for several weeks as the Jets try to figure

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Speaker 4: out what the second half of the season becomes. But

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Speaker 4: that's that's the story coming out of Week six for me,

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Speaker 4: Like even going in, you know, you were in with

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Speaker 4: us at the news desk, Dan, and the stat that

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Speaker 4: just stood out to me as we're already into the

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Speaker 4: our mid forties of different quarterbacks that have started a

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Speaker 4: game right that you know, obviously Joe Flacco, multiple teams,

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Speaker 4: but the fact that we're going to the fantasy infirmary

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Speaker 4: so often, the number of running backs that have left

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Speaker 4: games and next man up, and you know, just the

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Speaker 4: waiver wire is great and the churn has been great,

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Speaker 4: and if you're in a league that charges by transaction,

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Speaker 4: that pod is getting immense Yeah, by the mid season here,

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Speaker 4: because I know some folks that do that, right, the

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Speaker 4: fifty cents or a dollar per waiver wire transaction, and

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Speaker 4: it's like a pinball machine rolling up numbers. At this

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Speaker 3: It's nice to have flexibility with your roster. I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure you guys like to put them together. But now

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Speaker 3: we're getting into bye weeks. In this past week, we

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Speaker 3: just had the Texans and Vikings on by next week,

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Speaker 3: only two teams, but I think you're going to be

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Speaker 3: missing some players because the Bills are on by and

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Speaker 3: the two teams not playing in week seven. But you know,

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Speaker 3: in my longtime league, we have one ir spot. I've

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Speaker 3: also had to deal with Mike Evans' absence and others.

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Speaker 3: And now when you start getting into the bye weeks

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Speaker 3: and you have some of these injuries and you're holding

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Speaker 3: on to certain guys that you're like, okay, it's three

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Speaker 3: roster spots you have, it's going to start to get

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Speaker 3: really tricky with the bench maneuvers, especially when we have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been curious, and this came up in one

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Speaker 4: of my leagues, was a vote proposed to maybe allow

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Speaker 4: I guess depending on the league settings and whatever service

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Speaker 4: you use, that may be an option. And it was

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Speaker 4: voted down. Interesting as if you're not officially on IR,

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Speaker 4: then just being out that's why you have a bench.

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Speaker 4: So if your league has cut the bench to where

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Speaker 4: that's an issue, then maybe that's something for your league constitution. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the following year, because that's been the trend and we've

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Speaker 4: talked about it in the years doing the podcast, Dan

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Speaker 4: of I know in a lot of my leagues they've

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Speaker 4: just that you'd have more viable players potentially in the

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Speaker 4: it would create those hard decisions of all, right, do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in a spot in another league where

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Speaker 3: you should be able to put them on injured reserve.

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Speaker 3: In a holdover league that we had that we would

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Speaker 3: like I think that you absolutely should allow IR to

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Speaker 3: And I understand that certain advantages are given to certain

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Speaker 3: And if one guy's getting screwed with his team and

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Speaker 3: don't know what you voted for in your league, Mike,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but I wish my league would have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think as it got proposed, and I just

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Speaker 4: because their team had been hit particularly hard and over

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Speaker 4: it's the ad back on because of players out like it, don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know it.

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Speaker 3: Because it happened to them, it became a.

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Speaker 5: Big deal and it's like the Packers with the toush push.

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Speaker 4: But it's the competitive league right to where folks are

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Speaker 4: writing on wins and losses and not that I do

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Speaker 4: it because look, I've got my show with Jason Smith,

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Speaker 4: and this is part of what we do and we

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Speaker 4: writing a lot of content about the leagues I'm playing in.

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Speaker 4: Nor am I putting up hey I won that like

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Speaker 4: writing giant missives of winning, sure leak. So if suddenly

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Speaker 4: I'm losing because my players are hurt well to some degree,

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Speaker 4: like look, I've taken my lumps before in these leagues.

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Speaker 4: It's unfortunate, right, It's like sometimes you don't have the breaks,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you just have to admit that it's not

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Speaker 4: your lead your year. Yeah right, But you know, if

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Speaker 4: you're deciding between the guys you want to stash on

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Speaker 4: enough that you've decided, all right, you need to hold them.

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Speaker 4: It's like, well, no, like this is where the tough

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Speaker 4: choices have to be made. And you can write a

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Speaker 4: full column or do a full podcast of how you

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Speaker 4: came to this difficult decision because your number two or

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Speaker 4: number three receiver is out. But not on IR. I

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Speaker 4: think it's an opportunity from the content of here's how

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Speaker 4: what I was stashing. Yeah, and it's it's unfortunate, like

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Speaker 4: I think it Barrel narrowly got voted down. I didn't

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Speaker 3: I look at it because I in my longtime league,

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Speaker 3: we have one less bench spot than we do in

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Speaker 3: this in this other league where I had McLaurin, but

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Speaker 3: then the other league, I had Mike Evans. I'm also carrying.

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Speaker 3: I said, I put Joe Burrow on IR in that league.

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Speaker 3: I'm rotating quarterbacks. And not to tell you about my

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Speaker 3: if I've got three quarterbacks that I've been kind of

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't be able to. I shouldn't complain that.

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Speaker 3: There aren't enough spots if I'm carrying an XSS amount

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Speaker 3: and then there are guys who maybe they're they're hurt,

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Speaker 3: you know, like that's and it's what the what the

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Speaker 3: never a chance he was going to play in weeks

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Speaker 3: five or six, but you know, like to have that

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Speaker 3: opportunity to just you know, put that player at that

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Speaker 3: That's just that's my issue with it. I think there comes,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's a line, and I guess that's the

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Speaker 3: problem with it, of just trying to to find where

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Speaker 3: that line is. But again, you're talking to a guy

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Speaker 3: who thinks that backup quarterbacks shouldn't you know, be able

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Speaker 3: to be put in if the starter is is hurt right,

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Speaker 3: or if the starter plays one quarter, you should get

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Speaker 3: three quarters of whoever the backup is of points in

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Speaker 3: that way, because I think that's like such a luck

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Speaker 3: lenient with rules maybe than other people are. But I

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Speaker 3: also just try to look at the fun of the

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Speaker 3: trying to keep people into the contest.

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Speaker 4: Well, but to that point, Dan, at one point, that

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Speaker 4: was a consideration. I remember when we had all working

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Speaker 4: at Yahoo all those years ago, was the idea of

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Speaker 4: the team quarterback, Like you're drafting a running back and

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Speaker 4: maybe you don't get their handcuff or whatever. Maybe you

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Speaker 4: don't want their handcuff, but from the quarterback perspective, you

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Speaker 4: would just have team quarterback. Sure, right, So if you

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Speaker 3: dan Byer on Fox Thursday Night preview Steelers taking on

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Speaker 3: Change in Nashville as the Callahan era ended after twenty

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Speaker 4: Like some things need to be behind closed doors. Right,

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Speaker 4: and this is more evidence of it. You know, defense

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Speaker 3: They can turn the page, but at least they can

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Speaker 4: Because right now you've got a Patriots squad that's starting

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, you know right.

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Speaker 4: So far, nicely done strong side, left side. There are

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Speaker 3: And I always liked Mike McCoy. I know that Charger

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Speaker 3: I typed in the two to YouTube Brian Callahan screaming

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Speaker 4: Yes, well remember that play against the Bears going down

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Speaker 4: I think that was it. I think that's the one, so.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, this is a family show. But you

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Speaker 3: Called Will Levis said his plays were dumb or some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Will Levis is having a week. All right, good

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Speaker 4: Yeah, someone finally didn't step backwards or forwards depending on

436
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 4: what they asked.

437
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 5: Were you know, everyone else stepped back and he was

438
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 5: the only one left. So that Williams, you know, volunteering.

439
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 3: Mike mentioned it earlier. But with his dad, Bill being

440
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: on staff, I'm sure that there's a bunch of stuff

441
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: they have to figure out as well, because there's no

442
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: way that he's sticking around, you know two, So there's

443
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: probably the steps. But you're right because I when the

444
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: news broke, I come on winning, I'm like, well, who's

445
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: going to take over? And then it was a couple

446
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: of hours until they finally ended up announcing it.

447
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: But it would have been funny if his dad got

448
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: named the interim coach.

449
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 3: With that, hey, then his dad names Brian offensive coordinator.

450
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 4: But chaos ensues.

451
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: Yes, right, well, I thought things are going to work

452
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: out when he came over from Cincinnati, and they did not.

453
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 4: But what do you think of Cam warned at this point,

454
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 4: like we talked about it for a couple of minutes,

455
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 4: Smith and I, I just don't know that the guy's

456
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: been given much of a chance.

457
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 5: I still believe in him. I still do. I liked

458
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 5: him a lot coming out of college. Yeah, he think

459
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 5: he's like he's just his he thinks the right way,

460
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 5: you know, just holding everyone accountable. I can tell he's not. Uh,

461
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 5: there's no war.

462
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: You love that Chador clip when Shador wanted to do

463
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 3: stuff with like the camera as a camboards, like I

464
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: just want.

465
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 2: To throw a football.

466
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

467
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: No, I give him a I don't want to say

468
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 3: a bit of a pass because I don't think that

469
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: he is the normal number one overall pick because he wasn't.

470
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 3: He wasn't a top ten prospect in this past draft, right,

471
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: and there were people who had him outside I should

472
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: say top five, so maybe had him at eight or seven.

473
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: But there are times when we go into a draft

474
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: class where the quarter the top prospect is the quarterback,

475
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 3: or is second or third, and that wasn't cam Ward.

476
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: Yet He's picked number one because he's the quarterback. So

477
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: I give him a little bit of slack. I've been

478
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: all right with with what they've done. Don't think that

479
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: they have a bunch. He was all right and that

480
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: comeback with the Cardinals, But yeah, I think that he

481
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: just kind of needed to rid himself of Brian Callahan

482
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: to really get a sent So I'm willing to give

483
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 3: him some slack, but I don't think he's been extremely

484
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: awful like he could have been. I concur Yeah, Well,

485
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: the Titans and Patriots will be playing Sunday in Nashville

486
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: in Week seven. On Thursday Night, it's the Steelers and Bengals,

487
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: the team Brian Callahan came from before taking that Titans job.

488
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: In AFC North's showdown, these division matchups might just never

489
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: stop on Thursday night. Fantasy wise, Aaron Rodgers maybe on

490
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 3: a bit of a heater and Jamar Chase welcome back,

491
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: Good to see you. Joe Flacco also an opportunity to

492
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: shine under the lights on Thursday.

493
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 4: They just give him the opportunity to go. It's not

494
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 4: quite the moon ball of Russell Wilson, but it's the

495
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 4: same effect. Right, Let's push the ball down the field.

496
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 4: We saw a little more of t Higgins, which is

497
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 4: always a good thing as well. Still waiting for that

498
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 4: breakout from Chase Brown. I don't know that we necessarily

499
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 4: are going to find it here on the short week.

500
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 4: Perhaps he gets a little more of a workload and

501
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 4: against the Steelers front. But you know, flip side Aaron

502
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 4: Rodgers with a solid effort against the Cleveland Browns defense

503
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: in Week six, and we're seeing him distribute the ball

504
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: a bit. Jalen Warren coming back helps in the backfield

505
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: as a as a receiver for him as well. I

506
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 4: don't know that there's anybody on you know that I'm

507
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 4: pushing heavy for. I think Rogers probably cracks the back

508
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 4: end of the QB ones or high QB twos. I

509
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: just think the ceiling's lower right, that they try to

510
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 4: grind out defense and maybe we see a little more

511
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: of the run game against the Bengals defense. But for

512
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 4: the Bengals, look, if you in the daily fantasy thing,

513
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 4: you know Joe Flacco is going to keep throwing. Whether

514
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: that's good or bad in the final analysis, I don't know.

515
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 4: I mean, we'll play both both wide receivers, Chase Back

516
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 4: into his wr you know, a top ten and Higgins

517
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: at the back end of the twos. But beyond that,

518
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: you know, I think we're stretching.

519
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: So I'll tell you this. I was ready to pick

520
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: the Bengals in this game. But the reason I'm not is,

521
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: and this is going to contradict what I said in

522
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 3: preseason episodes. But without Trey Hendrickson, who's got that neck issue,

523
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 3: I just would be surprised on a short week if

524
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: he plays. I just think that makes it a lot

525
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: easier for Aaron Rodgers. But I think that it's a

526
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: you know, a short week. I think I think it

527
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: benefits Cincinnati to play in this game. They're at home,

528
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: not that travels an issue, but with Pittsburg coming off

529
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 3: of a physical game against the Browns on a short week,

530
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 3: I think that could have played against them. But I

531
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: just don't know if since has enough to bother Rogers

532
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: on Thursday.

533
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, we get our guy Pickings back in and then

534
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: Gainwell has been a nice little fine for them out

535
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: of the backfield. Six catches this last week, so probably

536
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 4: still keeps a decent warkfload going forward short intermediate Rogers

537
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: getting the ball out fast keeps him upright. And right

538
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 4: now they're in the driver's seat in the division, So

539
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 4: it's all about succeed and proceed about that.

540
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 5: Do you think if Well, with this kind of being

541
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 5: the Steelers division to lose right now, if the Bengals

542
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 5: come out on Thursday night and beat them, do you

543
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 5: think that they kind of retake a little bit of

544
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 5: a driver's seat in the division because the Ravens aren't

545
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: doing anything. The Browns aren't doing anything. It's really just

546
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: between these two teams right now that the Bengals have

547
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 5: flat Oh.

548
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: It's fun, right you think about those first couple of weeks.

549
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 4: They weren't pretty wins, but they keep them in the game.

550
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is if the Steelers go to five and one,

551
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: every team in that division would have five losses.

552
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: So that would.

553
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 5: Kind of be the nail in the coffin.

554
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: Huh, it would be difficult.

555
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: The one thing that I would say, so your point

556
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: about if the Bengals win this, it's game on and

557
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: now Joe.

558
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: Burrow's possible return.

559
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: For people that have Joe Burrow later on in the

560
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: season that are holding on to him hoping for a

561
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: late season rebirth, absolutely, you know, absolutely, But if it

562
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: gets out of pocket. The tricky thing is is the

563
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: Ravens have been so bad right that you can't expect

564
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: them to completely turn it around. But if Lamar comes

565
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: back after week seven, like we think he would, and Mike,

566
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be back for the game

567
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: that you're going to be at when the Bears go

568
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: to Baltimore.

569
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 4: I've been imploring him the last couple of weeks on

570
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 4: Baltimore radio, say hey, hey, I'm coming here for headliners.

571
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean the for the the Ravens schedule. Not

572
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: to be schedule guy.

573
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: But they've got the Dolphins ahead, They've got two games

574
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: against the Bengals. They haven't played the Steelers yet, so

575
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: it'd be very difficult. But if Baltimore went on a run,

576
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: they could maybe get back into the picture. It's just, yeah,

577
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: it's really tough to come back from four games back

578
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: when you're you know.

579
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's ten or eleven to go.

580
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: Because what's been interesting to watch right is we've got

581
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks. We saw a couple of trades,

582
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: obviously Flacco being the headliner. We saw some other moves

583
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: right Newsome goes to Jacksonville. They're still in the market

584
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: for more secondary help, feeling they've got a chance, AFC

585
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: being the mess that it is, But you know, I've

586
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: seen Henry's name out there. We talked about Keaton Mitchell

587
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago that he was a healthy

588
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: scratch for what two three weeks as to whether he

589
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 4: was a guy that they were saying, hey, maybe we

590
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 4: can go get a you know, a mid round pick

591
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: or two from these desperate Teamscau's a lot of teams

592
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 4: looking for running back help, running back depth that maybe

593
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 4: they they'd offset, and even Henry's name being mentioned a

594
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 4: little bit. Current struggles obviously ball security issues, but if

595
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: they hit that point of no return, that maybe they

596
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: they're real sellers come November fourth.

597
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, if this was the the old like the Rams

598
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: put together a good run. Remember Pooka got hurt early

599
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: last year, they had dismal start to the to the season,

600
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: and then they put it together and come back and

601
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: win the the NFC West.

602
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: I think that's doable.

603
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: I just don't think that the Rams are nearly as

604
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: good of a team as the Rams were last year.

605
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember remember that when we were talking about that

606
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, like they flipped a

607
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: switch and everything went right and thereafter.

608
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, but there's games like they have a

609
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: game again if you look at their schedule, no disrespect,

610
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: but they if on a normal day they would beat

611
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: the Bears at home.

612
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: If this is the.

613
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, then they have a game against the Dolphins at Minnesota,

614
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: the Browns, Jets, Sorry, Ian, Bengals, Steelers Bengals. Those would

615
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: all be winnable games, with the Steelers at home, and

616
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: then you'd finished with New England Green Bay and then

617
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: the last game would be in Pittsburgh in Week eighteen.

618
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: But if it was the old Ravens and how we

619
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: viewed the Ravens coming into the season, that's win win win,

620
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: win win.

621
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: But they're just not the old Ravens right now.

622
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: Defenses, how long they keep that coordinator around?

623
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

624
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: Right, Zach Kirby over sooner rather than later. They don't

625
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 3: have pieces either, especially with Matabek being done for the year.

626
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: Yeahicults. I lost that. That was tough, you know me.

627
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: I love my defensive tackles.

628
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Well, the Bengals are our only hope to

629
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: keep the AFC North competitive. We'll see if they can

630
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: do it on Thursday night. That's going to do it

631
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: for us here and I want your flex. We'll be

632
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: back at the end of the week. Michael have his

633
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: top five rankings for the quarterback, running back to wide

634
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: receiver positions. Ian's already working on the streaming defenses and

635
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: I'll have a Survivor pick for you as well. So

636
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 3: for Ian Roddy and Mike Karman, I'm Dan Byer. We

637
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: need to talk to you next time, right here, and

638
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: I want your flash m

639
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: M hmm