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Speaker 1: The regular season is here and welcome to week one's

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Speaker 1: first episode of Big Blue Kickoff Live presented by Cores Light.

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Speaker 1: Happy Labor Day, everybody, We are happy to work. The

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Speaker 1: NFL does not get Labor Day off. Well maybe not

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Speaker 1: after the next sixty minutes dealing with you because Lance

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Speaker 1: is cranky today, let me tell you, but we're here

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Speaker 1: for you at two five one three hashtag Giants chat

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. If you want to talk to us that way,

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Speaker 1: we can do that. However you want to get in

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Speaker 1: touch with us, feel free. The lines are open. But

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Speaker 1: we have a lot to discuss Lance. And this is

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Speaker 1: the first day where we have what appears to be

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Speaker 1: close to a final fifty three man roster, though it

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Speaker 1: appears things are still in flux. As more players become available,

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Speaker 1: maybe those are attractive, the Giants might change their roster further.

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Speaker 1: So I guess we can start here. We won't start

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Speaker 1: the most recent moves, will start with what I consider

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Speaker 1: the moves that have been discussed the most and of

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Speaker 1: course that starts with the quarterback position. And I will

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Speaker 1: say my piece first before I kind of leave the

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Speaker 1: table for you on this. Yes, Kyle Loletta played better

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Speaker 1: than Alex Tanney in the preseason games. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone would debate that. I'm surprised that they made the

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Speaker 1: move they did. I thought Loletta would be on the

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Speaker 1: final fifty three. I'm not sure you had on your

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Speaker 1: when you injected your final. Okay, so you were right

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Speaker 1: about it. So now you can explain why and this

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Speaker 1: decision as simple, folks. Unless there's an unmitigated catastrophe, whoever

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Speaker 1: the third quarterback is on this team is not gonna play,

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Speaker 1: So in effect, who the best actual player on the

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Speaker 1: field maybe isn't the most important thing. As Pat Meremer

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Speaker 1: said today, they really like what Alex Tanny does with

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Speaker 1: stuff behind the scenes. That was the phrase that he used.

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Speaker 1: And right now, the most important thing for this quarterback

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Speaker 1: room is besides of course winning games, the GLI Manning

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Speaker 1: is developing Daniel Jones right and moving him along as

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Speaker 1: much as possible. So if they believe having Alex Tanny

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Speaker 1: Jones's development, then this makes sense. If they think Daniel,

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Speaker 1: if they think Tanny being in there can help Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning two to three percent a week. Based on what

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Speaker 1: he does in that room, then the move makes sense.

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Speaker 1: That's what the thinking is in terms of why they

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Speaker 1: liked Tanny for that room more than they liked Loletta. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of the rational John

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Speaker 1: pat Scharmer has talked about the quarterback room. He's used

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Speaker 1: that phrase more often than not since he arrived on

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Speaker 1: the scene. And you know, that to me was a

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Speaker 1: big reason why he values and has valued Alex Tanny

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Speaker 1: ever since he joined the roster. John, because he's a

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Speaker 1: veteran quarterback, and that means that when you're breaking down film,

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot more experience of picking up things.

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Speaker 1: He's been around the league. He's been in a variety

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Speaker 1: of offenses. So you know this goes back to and

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Speaker 1: I've voiced this on social media, preseason production alone is

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Speaker 1: not the only thing that gets you a spot on

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Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster. John. So, while any of

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Speaker 1: us could say, based on the naked eye tests, was

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Speaker 1: Kyle Loletta impressive in the preseason? Did he show improvement

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Speaker 1: from last year? John? Absolutely, I'm not gonna disagree with

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Speaker 1: any of those sentiments, But that's not the only thing.

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Speaker 1: The coaching staff is taking into consideration as you laid

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Speaker 1: Who they want is the third quarterbacks, the strength of

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Speaker 1: conversations in that room are important just as much as

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Speaker 1: the conversations that go on in the huddle when they're

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Speaker 1: executing the offense, whichever quarterback may be out there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's move on to the next group. As we had

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff you want to touch on, folks,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna rapid fire through this and get to everything

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Speaker 1: one thing that Pat Schirmer has said, oh so multiple times, John,

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Speaker 1: skill set for a job elsewhere. Well, John, that means

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, Jeff Eagels and I. But now we enter

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Speaker 1: phase two of the discussion. This is the fifty three,

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Speaker 1: but it's the fifty three compared to everybody else out there,

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Speaker 1: but let's bring some perspective to this conversation. John to

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Speaker 1: So while depth is important, and I know we've had

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Speaker 1: Let's look with the linebackers. They decided to keep both

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Speaker 1: Now one undrafted free agent made the active roster. Both

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Speaker 1: So he's somebody the Giants bringing. They liked him better

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Speaker 1: curious now, is that Eric Smith Lance that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: this quiet. But this is no complaining for me. You

431
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,239
Speaker 1: can put Charlie on hold. I'll go back to him

432
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,160
Speaker 1: at some point, or we could drop him to two

433
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Speaker 1: oh on nine three nine that he gets the merits

434
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 1: for that. By the way, what he does you go

435
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 1: to him first? You know why? See here's his rationale.

436
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 1: He probably thinks that we go to him last. So

437
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 1: he probably is away from the phone and he's listening

438
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 1: on the computer. He's getting a canaanaka ready for the

439
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 1: regular season. Who knows well he was on the phone first.

440
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 1: He was the fossil, and I want to put him

441
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 1: on first. He's only going to complain about the fifty

442
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 1: four player on the roster, who doesn't exist anyway. So

443
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Speaker 1: I don't think we're losing much sleep over not hearing

444
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Speaker 1: from Charlie in Portland, Maine. But our sincere apologies to

445
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 1: the rest of our listeners and viewers. All right, let's

446
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 1: go down to New Orleans. I think this was Beato

447
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,360
Speaker 1: you had down there, Beato, what's going on? What's going on?

448
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: Fellas Um? I kind of came in a little while

449
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 1: I was going through the practice squad. But my original

450
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 1: question was, did Alonzo Russell at least make the practice squad. No,

451
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 1: Russell did not make the practice squad. And now I'm

452
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Speaker 1: gonna go to Twitter and I'll explain why he's ineligible

453
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Speaker 1: to make the practice squad because he's played three straight

454
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Speaker 1: seasons on practice squads and that's one of the criteria

455
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Speaker 1: that enables you to be ineligible. He was with the

456
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Speaker 1: Bengals practice squad, he was with the Cardinals practice squad.

457
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Speaker 1: He's with the Giants practice squad. And that's why Alonso

458
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Speaker 1: Russell can't go to the Giants practice squad. He's run

459
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Speaker 1: out of basically years on the list available to be

460
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Speaker 1: eligible for the price. It's similar in baseball when you

461
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Speaker 1: run out of minor league options. It's basically the same

462
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: type of deal. O Karen, Okay, I forgot my other question.

463
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Speaker 1: When I let you all get to somebody else, Thank

464
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Speaker 1: you for taking appreciate the call. Thank you'll appreciate the call. See,

465
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: this is what Charlie throws us all for a loop.

466
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: And now even the other callers can't remember what they

467
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 1: were gonna say. Glad you went to him first. Well

468
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: you'll be happy. Charlie Hall to a roaring start, and

469
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: Charlie hung up. So we're gonna see men get back up.

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Speaker 1: Pigs are flying outside in East Rutherford, New Jersey towns.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Letting Columbia, Maryland. How are you, Lend?

472
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: The Giants did practice in the rain today. By the way, Lenn,

473
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Speaker 1: what's going on? How are you hey? Guys? How are

474
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Speaker 1: you doing great? Happy regular season Monday? Yes, yes, yes,

475
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Speaker 1: thanks for being on. By the way, no problem, hey,

476
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting thing. Mr Gentleman's been around on

477
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Speaker 1: the job for like twenty months. I think there's less

478
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Speaker 1: than ten players left from when he got here. Yes,

479
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Speaker 1: I have, I have not counted, but yeah, I can

480
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Speaker 1: do that. Wow, I think I think it's I think

481
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Speaker 1: it's under ten. I will count for your right and

482
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Speaker 1: wrong in my count. But I thought I think I

483
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 1: saw something about five guys from the sixteen roster are

484
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Speaker 1: still on the team, which is the last time they

485
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Speaker 1: made the playoffs. So I could be wrong, but I

486
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 1: think I saw in the territory about just five guys

487
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: remain from that playoff team. So that just goes to

488
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: show you how much turnover has happened. What um, Yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: I was doing this from when he actually got on

490
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Speaker 1: the money. Actually, so you were going for the following

491
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Speaker 1: season meeting from the start of or seventeen. You're talking

492
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Speaker 1: about the latter part of seventeen. Been on the top

493
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Speaker 1: twenty months. All right, So you got Wayne, I'll do

494
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Speaker 1: it real quick. You got Wayne Goldman, you got Paul Perkins. Right,

495
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: that's two. Evan Ingram is. Evan Ingram is three, Dalvin

496
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Speaker 1: Thomlinson's four. Uh, let's see, Stirling Shepherd is five, Hawipo

497
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Speaker 1: is six. D No, right, Allison was a gentleman rights seven,

498
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Speaker 1: and Eli is eight and Jenkins yea, I think we're

499
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Speaker 1: in nine. It looks like we're nine nine count account

500
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Speaker 1: and was ten ten. I think also, I think we

501
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: got you know, once again, we got a lot of

502
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Speaker 1: new guys. I think there's nineteen new guys on the roster,

503
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: maybe twenty. We don't have to go through it. But

504
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: that was just my rough counter that we had pretty

505
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Speaker 1: close season nineteen or twenty. Um. There can't be a

506
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Speaker 1: team in the NFL who had a preseason who went

507
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Speaker 1: any better than the Giants did. I mean, everything went

508
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: really well. I mean, you gotta got I think, really

509
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Speaker 1: be thinking positive coming out of the out of the preseason.

510
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's preseason games and so forth,

511
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Speaker 1: but everything we wanted to have happened happened. You know.

512
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Speaker 1: We got we got a lot of the draft choices

513
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Speaker 1: on the team. We've got some free agents who you know,

514
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: have been playing well. When the Browns, the Jones thing

515
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: is working out, you know, really well, elis looking sharp.

516
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Speaker 1: And then it ends with that big bang on you know,

517
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Speaker 1: on Thursday night he gets the Patriots on that last

518
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: play of the game and celebration on the field and

519
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: then the locker room, you know a lot. Hopefully the

520
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: positivity goes you know, carries forward a little bit, but

521
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: it was I just thought it was for as long

522
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Speaker 1: as I've been following the Giants, that's about as positive

523
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Speaker 1: as you can get in a preseason. I mean, really really,

524
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Speaker 1: I mean, they went five and oh in the preseason

525
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Speaker 1: in two thousand fourteen, the year they played the Hall

526
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Speaker 1: of Fame game, and once again, not to be a

527
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: Debbie downer here, Lannon, they went six and ten. So

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Speaker 1: I get your point, and I think I mean everybody's thinking,

529
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Speaker 1: you know, we've got to be thinking positive going into

530
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Speaker 1: this game next week. I mean, everything's working right, you know,

531
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Speaker 1: particularly with you know, how good was Jones gonna? Um,

532
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Speaker 1: you know what it was Jones going to be and

533
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: we're beginning to find out. I think that was a

534
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: big question mark a couple of things I'd like your

535
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: comments on. I'm gonna say a couple of things. You

536
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: tell me what you're thinking. Um, we're really gonna miss

537
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Speaker 1: Golden Take Oh my goodness, guys, I mean after after Shepherd,

538
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Speaker 1: who's probably a two. You know, we got a bunch

539
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Speaker 1: of guys battling for five to you know of like

540
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: five and six in terms of you know, if you

541
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: put him on a roster, Tate is going to be

542
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: he He just looked sharp the other night. I mean,

543
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: just made some good catchers, made some good moves. I

544
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: think we're really gonna miss him. I I just I

545
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: don't think very highly of this wide receiver corps. You

546
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: guys have any comments, Hey, look, Golden, it's a really

547
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: good player. I mean, they're they're certainly gonna miss his.

548
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: Presidents Land other guys are gonna have to step up,

549
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: and look, you don't just replace the guy that basically

550
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: averages eighty catches in a thousand yards a year. Over

551
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: the course of his career. It's it's gonna have to

552
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: be a team effort. And you hope Evan Ingram has

553
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: a monster a few weeks to try to help out there.

554
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: See Kwong Gays used in the passing game. But yeah,

555
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: absolutely they're gonna miss Golden tain and I don't think

556
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Speaker 1: anyone would argue with that. Yeah, I mean, his track

557
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 1: record speaks for itself, as you mentioned, John, But if

558
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Speaker 1: I'm Cody Lattimer, if I'm Benny Vallon Russell Shephard, I

559
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: got a great opportunity and now it's up to them

560
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: to take advantage of that. Remember last year the three

561
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: of them were sprinkled in because of the injuries with

562
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: O'Dell and Cody Lattimer was on I R. Well, now

563
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: they got four straight games here the first quarter of

564
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: the season to make something happen. And again, Lynna, I

565
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: don't want to depress people or set low expectations. But

566
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Speaker 1: the other tricky thing the first four games, while the

567
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: schedule overall is is not super tough, you are playing

568
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 1: three really good defenses, and the Cowboys, the Bills, and

569
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: the Redskins. That's the strength of those three teams. So

570
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: they have. They have good corners, so that that's going

571
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: to be a bit of a challenge. The Bills may

572
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: have one of the best duos in the NFL, especially

573
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Speaker 1: when you consider the safety their Their defense is good

574
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: buffalos and fantastic defense. Yeah. I appreciate your optimism, and

575
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Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from, and I'm just I'm

576
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: just not real high on the guys that are on

577
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: that roster at this At this point, let me go

578
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: on to another one. Um, I don't know how we

579
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Speaker 1: play the first four games or the first three uh

580
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: in Dallas and in Tampa in that heat with five

581
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Speaker 1: defensive linemen. I think you're going to see a lot

582
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Speaker 1: of big men in the building tomorrow. Guys. I think

583
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: they're looking for that sixth defensive lineman. Let me remember though,

584
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: only two of those guys are going to be on

585
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: the field of most of the game at a time.

586
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 1: I just think we're gonna need a bigger rotation than

587
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: those five guys. I know Martin sometimes slips inside, but

588
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: I think we you know, I think we and I

589
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: think the guy specifically as a backup nose tackle. Um,

590
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: you know, and I've been a little surprised so far

591
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: during preseason, and I'd like a quick comment from you,

592
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: if you would maybe maybe Lance here. You know, we

593
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: seem to be playing Lawrence outside and Thomason and nose tackle.

594
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: I there's something about that, and I'm not real excited

595
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: about it. I thought Lawrence was going to be more

596
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: of the inside guy and Thomason would play outside. Lance,

597
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: what do you well, have you noticed that? Have you

598
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: noticed that? Well? But remember, I mean we talked about

599
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: this when Lawrence was drafted, the fact that he was

600
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: moved around when he played at Clemson, and he's comfortable

601
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: being put in spots on the outside of the inside.

602
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Speaker 1: I remember we had Clemson's defensive line coach on on

603
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: and we asked him about that, and he said, didn't

604
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Speaker 1: take him to be a player where you can only

605
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: put him in one spot. And I think that they

606
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: find him to be a little bit more versatile than Tomlinson.

607
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Speaker 1: Answer your question, and he's and Len, he's a better

608
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: athlete than Tomlinson. They they they think Lawrence has better

609
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: pass rush potential. That's why they're playing him outside and

610
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: they're leaving Thomlinson. Okay, okay, yeah, no, Well I agree

611
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Speaker 1: with that. I agree with that but I was hoping

612
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Speaker 1: that Hill would be that guy and Tomlinson, you know,

613
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: Thomlinson would be the run stopper at the other end,

614
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: and you know that Lawrence would be inside. Well well,

615
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens to mey work that way.

616
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: But you know we saw them, I mean high on

617
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: the seventh round, still on and I'm I'm glad you

618
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: got I'm glad he made it to the practice squad.

619
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Speaker 1: I know you like Jenkins. I understand he signed with Miami.

620
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: Oh did he? I missed that? Yeah, yeah, I signed

621
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Speaker 1: with Miami. I think he and the long snapper went

622
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: to Miami. And by the way, Len, by the way,

623
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: if you notice a lot more Giants players this year

624
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: are winding up on other teams rosters and practice squads,

625
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: it shows how much better it is top to bottom

626
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: than it was a year ago. Yeah, it doesn't. And

627
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: Paul's Paul favorite. And I saw that the Dolphins. He

628
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: went to Dolphins. Yeah, thank you, Lynn, Yeah, we gotta run.

629
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Pal appreciate the call. Two five, one three. You have

630
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: something else? No, I was curious who's he referring to

631
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Jenkins going to the Dolphins, John Jenkins, John Jenkins. Okay,

632
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: I was guessing that's who we meant. But I did

633
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: not look that up. Okay, I didn't see John Jenkins

634
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: going to the Dolphins. That's why I that was news

635
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: to me. That's why I just wanted to confirm that.

636
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: And yes, they did add defensive tackle John Jenkins. Clarification

637
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The Dolphins work in the past four or

638
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: five days look like what the Giants did last year

639
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: during the same they made five claims on day one,

640
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: and clearly, now that they're adding two other former Giants,

641
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Speaker 1: they're probably up to near ten different transactions since their

642
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: initial fifty three man roster. Well, and when you trade

643
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: your left tackle and one of your top wide receivers

644
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: and you're going in the direction of Ryan Fitzpatrick and

645
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: you're not too confident in Josh Rosen, maybe to start

646
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: leads me to believe that they're doing everything in their

647
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: power to get a quarterback next year. Yeah, let me

648
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: say this about what the doll Fins did and with

649
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: the Texans did for that matter. Do I think it

650
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: was a bit of an overpay for Laramie Tunsel, Yes,

651
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: mostly because they now have to pay him as well.

652
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: So you're kind of they didn't hammer out an extension

653
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: with him, correct, And you know, I never like to

654
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: have to give up assets for a player twice. You

655
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: don't want to give up picks and then have to

656
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: pay him on top of that, right, Which what we

657
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: talked about Beckham Jr. In the trade, it was you

658
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: got more back because you were training a guy that

659
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: already signed this contract, right exactly. So that in that way,

660
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: I think it maybe it was a bit of an

661
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: overpaid by the Texans. But in that being said, they

662
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: literally might be a left tackle away from making a

663
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. That's how important of a position I

664
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Speaker 1: think that is for that team to get squared away.

665
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Speaker 1: And I understand why they felt the urgency to make

666
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: a trade that way. Now, if it doesn't work out

667
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: and they don't make the playoffs this year, it's an

668
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: unmitigated disaster. But I understand why they felt the need

669
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: to go out and get that player. But then go

670
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: back to the draft and they let the Eagles trade

671
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: one position in front of them from j Dillard, when

672
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: what would have cost them to move up to spots

673
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: but probably not und just gave up and they would

674
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: have to play in a rookie contract, they would have

675
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: to pay him as quickly as they would Tounsil So

676
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: I think overall mismanaged asset management in terms of what

677
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: the Texans did, but in terms of how the player

678
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: helps their team, I get it. Well, it's also quite

679
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: interesting that Texans technically don't have a general manager. They've

680
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: got a three headed monster there, so also or their

681
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: head coaches making decisions could very well be the case.

682
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: You make a good point about the Texans in terms

683
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: of their viewpoint, and I would agree with you. I

684
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: think that they looked at their offensive line, which gave up,

685
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: by the way, sixty two sacks last season. Now the

686
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: quarterback is partially responsible for that, to Deshaun Watson, but

687
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: absolutely sixty two sacks were talking about Laramie Tunzel does

688
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: not solve their entire offensive line. So I get that

689
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: they feel Andrew lux retired golden opportunity. But they also

690
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: parted ways with one of their best run stoppers on

691
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: defense in Gadavian Clowney, and nobody on the roster is

692
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: ready to fill in for him. See that's what I

693
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: know it. That's a big question marks if you're going

694
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: all into win now, then why are you trading Clowney

695
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: for a third round pick and a couple of you

696
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: know so so defensive player. He had all the leverage

697
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: in the world. He wasn't going to sign his tag

698
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: and he was going to tell them where he wanted

699
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: to be traded. So I don't get but he signed

700
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: the tag with with the team he was going to.

701
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: So why won't he signed the tag with the Texans.

702
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: I think part of it is because has got hurt. Well,

703
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: I think that may be part of it. I think

704
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: Houston made it very clear that he's not in their

705
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: future plans. So his feeling is that's fair too. I'm

706
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: not gonna then sacrifice my body and take the risk

707
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: of being a free agent and then all of a

708
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: sudden not get the lucrative contract that one. But they

709
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: also mismanaged that because if they would have traded Clowney

710
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: back in May or June to give the team they

711
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: were trading him to a chance to hammer out a

712
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: long term deal, they could have gotten more back and

713
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: go see Clowney. Also, did you see the report from

714
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: chef Adam Schefter on ESPN the Seahawks agreed not to

715
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: tag him after this season. So I said, I did

716
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: not see that. Why do you think Seattle only gave

717
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: up a third round pick and two marginal players. They

718
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: basically no rights to him at all. It's a it's

719
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: a complete one year rental. And that's because they have

720
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: no guarantee that he's going to commit to them and

721
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: that will help. And now the Seahawks, by the way

722
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: running out him and uh, the guy they got from

723
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, well, they traded Frank Clark to Kansas City Seattle.

724
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna help replace him. They got Jarren Reid who

725
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: was suspended, who's able to come back after the six games? Well,

726
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: that's right. Who the Chiefs trade their pass rusher too,

727
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: DFD Are you talking about Francisco? He went to the nine.

728
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: That's okay, That's where I got confused, Okay, right, right,

729
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: And then they traded Frank Clark back to the chief

730
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: Just a lot of rotating pass rushers in the NFC. Yeah,

731
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: but Seattle's got a next front. I will tell you

732
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: that after that. Stay done a hell of a job

733
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: retooling quickly. So we're gonna punish Charlie now since he

734
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: wasn't online before we wait you want to Hey, you

735
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: know this is your band I'm okay with that. You're

736
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: gonna lying it. Now, Let's go to Jack in Virginia.

737
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Speaker 1: He's up next. Hey Jack, Hey, John Silenz, thanks for

738
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: taking my call, and thanks again for for working today.

739
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: No problem, Thanks calling in Jack, thanks for listening. What's up?

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00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: Um listen? I should say also thank you again for

741
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: beginning of the show addressing the whole county situation. But gentlemen,

742
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I know I'm not there. You guys know

743
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: far more than I would ever know regarding this, I

744
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: still don't get it. I mean, it's not necessarily that

745
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: Loletta isn't on the roster. When I saw initially that

746
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: Loletta was released, I thought, okay, I thought maybe they

747
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: were going down to two, and I expected Tanny to follow.

748
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: I just think, guys, look, Eli Manning is a two

749
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: time sixteen year you know veterans and two times Super

750
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: Bowl champion sixteen year veterans. Um you know, as John

751
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: Gruten would say, knock on wood. If you're with me,

752
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: he doesn't get injured. I mean, you know, I certainly

753
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: hope that remains the case. But yeah, but Jack, but Jack,

754
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: here's my point, though, keeping the third quarterback has nothing

755
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: to do with that quarterback eventually playing in the game.

756
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: You might you might disagree with that reasoning, but Alex

757
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: Tanny eventually playing in a game has nothing to do

758
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: with the reason for keeping Alex Tanny, right. I understand

759
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: he's he he preps for the out, you know, And

760
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, I know, we're taking him

761
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: back when he was a coach. They never had more

762
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: than two. And I just think that that roster spot

763
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: could could be could be stilled by somebody else who

764
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: could contribute, you know, uh, give it a much a

765
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: much better contribution towards the team than Jack. Look, Jack, no, Jack,

766
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: I I can. I completely understand your point, and I

767
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: would understand thinking that way too. All I'll do is

768
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: explain to you the way it was explained to us,

769
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: in the way Patremmers talked to us about the quarterback

770
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: position and the way he thinks about the room he

771
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: likes to have. He's told us straight up, if I

772
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: carry five quarterbacks, I'd carry five. He thinks there is

773
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: value to the room and game preparation. And I think, again,

774
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: more importantly helping develop Daniel Jones with a guy liked

775
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: handing in the room is remember week to week here,

776
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones can watch Eli Manning prepare and he can

777
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: learn that way, which is I don't like the word mentoring.

778
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: He watches that, he goes about his business. He can copy,

779
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, That's how it works. You see how somebody

780
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: else does something. Oh, it works, That's how I'm gonna

781
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: do it. So that's how he's gonna learn from Manning.

782
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: But if he has like a bunch of questions about,

783
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, stuff in the installation or stuff the other

784
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: team is doing. Eli is not necessarily going to have

785
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: the time to sit for an hour and a half

786
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: and answer a bunch of questions from Daniel Jones because

787
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: he's getting ready to play. And Kylo Lett has only

788
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,479
Speaker 1: been the league for a year and a half. He's

789
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: not capable of answering those questions. But a guy like

790
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: Tanny is. So I think that's another part of this.

791
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: I I get your point. Well, right, do you have

792
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: anything else from me? Jack? No, that's thanks to appreciate, appreciate,

793
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: appreciate the call man. By the way, folks, we have

794
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: a couple open lines if you want to get in

795
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: before Charlie at two o one nine night four or

796
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: five on three let's go to Jeffrey Rood Island. He's

797
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: up next. Hey Jeff, Hey guys, Happy Happy Labor day, Jeff.

798
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: What's up too? Too bad? You got to work today,

799
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, Jeff, I have not had a labor day

800
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: off since two thousand and six because I'm used to

801
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: it by now. Don't worry about it. Sports never takes off,

802
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Jeff on the side. Yeah, But anyway, what I'm calling

803
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: is like, what what is the actual truth on Goodson?

804
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I read that he's been waived, and I

805
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: read that he's been traded to Green Bay. So it's

806
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: the absolute truth of the matter there. Yeah, we we look,

807
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: we we know he's been waived. That is officially done.

808
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: But remember what a player before they get to the

809
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: waiver wire. I think technically you can still make another

810
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: transaction with them. I've seen the same reports you have.

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Speaker 1: We have not gone official word from the Giants in

812
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: terms of exactly what's happened. I can tell you for

813
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: sure he's been put through the waiver process. Um beyond that,

814
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: what might happen it remains to be seen. Uh, that

815
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: report might turn out to be true, That's very possible.

816
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, yes or no.

817
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: But the fact that another team is knocking on the

818
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Giants door to try to acquire a player, I think

819
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: is a good sign that the Giants roster is a

820
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: lot better top to bottom than it was last year. Well,

821
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: and you always try to explore to see if you

822
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: get something in return when you get a part ways

823
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: with the players. So the Giants have announced on social

824
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: media earlier today that he was waived. There's a chance

825
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: that maybe that transaction can change. John and I are

826
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: aware of the reports, but as far as the Giants

827
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: are concerned, Jeff, to answer your question, it has been

828
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: officially announced as him going through waivers. Until that changes,

829
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: that's the only info that we have right now. Okay.

830
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: I'm also kind of surprised that Kareem Martin made the team.

831
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen him make but one play

832
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: last year, so I'm surprised he's on a fifty three.

833
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: I thought they might have dumped him. Well, you know what,

834
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: it goes back to, Jeff. It goes back to what

835
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: John and I were talking about. The quarterbacks, and you

836
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: know what you add to the room that maybe you're

837
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: not necessarily seeing on the field. Karie Martin knows James

838
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: Bencher's scheme better than most. Okay, he was with him

839
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: in Arizona, And it goes back to the conversations that

840
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: go on in the film room and the week to

841
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: week conversations on how to adjust to various offenses when

842
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: you've been in the scheme for a while. Some coaches

843
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: find that valuable. Now, Martin did play a lot last season,

844
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how they maneuver those

845
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: linebackers this year with some added editions such as Marcus

846
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: Golden and so forth. But there once again, there's things

847
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 1: that don't go on in preseason games that way into

848
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: roster decisions, and you can't get caught up on sending

849
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: at home and watching the four games on TV and

850
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: based on what you've only seen and who made a

851
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: woundie play that that's the only thing that's indicative of

852
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: whether or not you're gonna get on the roster. And

853
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: Jeff real Quick, I think they believe Crean Martin is

854
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: their best run stopper at that position. I think they

855
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: think he believes he sets the edge best of that group.

856
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: So I think when you get into short yardage, you're

857
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: not gonna have Ocean zim Is on the field. You

858
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: might not have Marcus Golden on the field, but you

859
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: will have Crean Martin on the field. So I think

860
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: he is the best run stuffer of those three four

861
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: outside linebackers. Okay, you've got anything on a kid we

862
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: flame back and we picked up from the Panthers mail. Yeah,

863
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: he's a guy that has experienced with Thomas Bay when

864
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: he was with Carolina, experience with Dave Gentleman. He was

865
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: in Carolina, a very good special teams player, and they

866
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: believe he can help on on defense as well. Okay, okay,

867
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: thanks for you information. I'll thank you, Jeff, Jeff, and

868
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna trust our buddy Art Staplet and he

869
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: does a good job for no reason not to the

870
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: Giants have their captains. Well here, you could go right

871
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: to our website. Oh the Giants put it out. Yes,

872
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: the Giants did put it out. Okay, you got to

873
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: run through it. Eli Manning, Sat Kwon, Barkley, Nate Solder,

874
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: Antoine Bathet, alec Ogletree, Zach Dias, and Michael Thomas. Those

875
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: are your Giants captains for twenty nineteen. I guess that

876
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: Sa Kwan would get in there. I'm happy that he did.

877
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: That was my well. And I'm also very happy to

878
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: see Antoine Beaffet because that would have been a strong

879
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: guest too, when you look at what he brings the

880
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: defense and just how he's handled himselves since he's appeared here.

881
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: So and it shows you how Barkley stepped up in

882
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: the leadership role too. Would you like to see in

883
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: just a second year? Yeah, because remember captains are voted

884
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: on by the players, so I think that speaks volumes

885
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: when especially when you're a new arrival to John and

886
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: you get voted in as a captain meeting, I know

887
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: the roster changed over. No, you're right, I say a

888
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: lot about the impression that Antoine Bethet has made as

889
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: well as sa Kuon Barkley. And then when eventually Antoine

890
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: Bethet retires, that could be a nice buff for Julius

891
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: Peppers to step into two as he kind of learned

892
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: Jabrill Peppers. Julius Peppers too, I think would be very

893
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: valuable as well. I did that in the story I

894
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: wrote last week too. I said, Julius, I don't Peppers,

895
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: don't then we wish him well whatever he's up to, right,

896
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. But I think Jabrill Peppers would appreciate you

897
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: giving him pats on the back more so than Julius Peppers.

898
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: But I've never seen a free agent be a captain

899
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: of an NFL team while I'm not suiting up for them.

900
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: That is quite the accomplishment, I may add, that's very impressive. Man.

901
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Now that's a bolt take that should be put on

902
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: Giants dot com. Julius Peppers will be captain to the

903
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: Giants next year. You've heard he at first people on

904
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: Big Blue kake off. So the thing I have going

905
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: for me to quote you at least Julius Peppers does exist. Yes,

906
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: there you go. He exists, and he's a football player

907
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: and he is Listen, we only state the obvious of

908
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: the show. Two oh one, night three nine four or

909
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: five one three. All right, let's go to Charlie. Charlie,

910
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: are you there this time? I am here. I got

911
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: off somehow. No, no, no cut off, time out, time

912
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: out off. You did not get cut off off. We

913
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: heard your room noise. We could hear you with your

914
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, a little bowl and Impello thing glinding your

915
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: armor from the garden and were trying to music and

916
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: when we're when I'm usually on music, that means time

917
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: cut off. So I just hung up and called back anyway.

918
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: That's all right, Yeah, sure, that's all right. Don't worry

919
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: about us. We're just trying to put a show together

920
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: on live. But you know it doesn't matter. Everyone loves you.

921
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: Guys are so funny, like you're saying, wow, we got

922
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: such a great roster that you know, actually they're picking

923
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: up our players that we cut. Well, maybe we cut

924
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: the wrong players and the other ones that we kept

925
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: would not have been picked up like Subpar for one,

926
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: he loves the punts. He's been waiting to know. He's

927
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: been using that. He's been using it for the last week. Yeah,

928
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: I know at least he tries out the material here. Yeah,

929
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: and Thack is Uncle Tree where Davis gets hurt. Ryan

930
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: Connelly's Ryan Connelly's gonna play. Ryan Connelly is going to

931
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: play Ryan Donald subfarn have goods in there who listen,

932
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 1: listen to the words coming out of my mouth. Ryan

933
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: Connolly is the backup linebacker. He was already ahead of

934
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: b J. Goodson on the depth chart. It will be

935
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: Ryan Connelly played a snap in the NFL. He's better

936
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: than goods in a pitch. I don't think, Charlie, and

937
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: you know you know, Charlie are right because your evaluation

938
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: of linebackers is certainly better than the coaches on the staff. Now,

939
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: let's go to the swing tackle. H my god, Let's

940
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: pick up a guy who's never played a staff in

941
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: the NFL and column. Maybe he'll be our swing Charlie,

942
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: instead of getting somebody like Joe Boxdale. Who's available? Boxdale?

943
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: Who's Boxdale tackle? Who would definitely nobody, Charlie. Charlie, I

944
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: told you last week there was a good chance they

945
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: were going to try to find their swing tackle on

946
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: the waiver wire, didn't I were you not listening? I

947
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: told you this is what they were gonna do. Why

948
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: are you so upset and surprise about it? Because it's

949
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: not a veteran who can step right in if shoulder

950
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: goes down, You're gonna put this guy Smith in. I

951
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: think that Slade is who is the guard I think

952
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. If you listen to the previous part

953
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: of the show in which you apparently cut off on,

954
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: we said we think Nick Gates right now would be

955
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: your first tackle off the bench. Nick Gates, who they've

956
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: been saying he's a guard all along because he can't

957
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: play tackle in the NFL. What I'm saying is, no,

958
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: we don't know what you're saying, Charlie. Actually, no, no, no,

959
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: let me let me jump in here, Charlie. Let me

960
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: ask you a question. If Joe Barksdale is as impressive

961
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: as you make him out to be, why has he

962
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: not been signed anywhere since last He will be But

963
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, Charlie, che we can have we

964
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: can't have the hype. Okay, but wait, so why was

965
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: he not in camp, Charlie? Why was he not in

966
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: camp with anybody? Though? I get your point about veterans

967
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: getting guaranteed contracts, when there he was with the Chargers.

968
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: They cut him? He was with the Chargers. When was

969
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: he with the Chargers? He was with a charge Is

970
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: they just cut him? They just cut him? Is that

971
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: what you're saying? All right, we'll see whether or not

972
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: he's still living in two thousand seventeen. Okay, well, the Chargers,

973
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers released Barksdale. Hold no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Charlie,

974
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no, no no. The Chargers release Barksdale.

975
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: December third, eighteen it is September two, two nineteen. He

976
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: then signed with the Cardinals after the Chargers cut him

977
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: in late December of last year. When did he wind

978
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: back up on the Chargers? Charlie got cut? That's all? Well,

979
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: does Google work accordingly to your powers or does it

980
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: go two years back? You're talking, You're right because facts

981
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: don't matter what time out, time out, time out. You

982
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: can't say this is minutia when you call up and

983
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: use it as the basis of your whole call in argument.

984
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm not when I'm using my basis, John is that

985
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: he's as swing tackle ten times better than the guy

986
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: that we picked up off never played the staff in

987
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: the NFL. How do you know? How do you know

988
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: he's ten times better than ever SMAs He broke down film, Charlie,

989
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: because he's never played. He's been on practice squads and

990
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: they've been They cut him, Patriots cut him, the Dolphins

991
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: cut Charlie. Hold On, let me ask you a question.

992
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: Were you irritated that Alonso Russell did not make the

993
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: ultimate final fifty three? Hold on? Hold on? Were you

994
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: annoyed over that? No? No, I'm just asking you, Charlie.

995
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm making it fine I'm not making a mistake. Just

996
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: answer my question. Were you disappointed that Alonso Russell did

997
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: not Okay, how many no no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

998
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: no no no, no, no, no, no no. We're gonna

999
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: stop there, no no, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, We're gonna stop.

1000
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: There's good Charlie. No no, Charlie, Charlie, We're gonna stop there.

1001
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. Hold on. This

1002
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: activity is not over yet. Okay. You you said you

1003
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: were irritated that Alonzo Russell did not make the final

1004
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: fifty three. Can you tell me how many regular season

1005
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: games Alonzo Russell has appeared in over the course of

1006
00:46:54,080 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: his career. How many regular season snaps he's played he earned? No, no, no, no, no, no, Charlie, Charlie,

1007
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: I want to know that, Charlie, Charlie, he played in

1008
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: He was active for one game, for one game on

1009
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: the roster. No. No, But you're contradicting your point. They

1010
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: brought in somebody with an NFL resume to replace him. Okay,

1011
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: you just said that you don't want an inexperienced offensive

1012
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: lineman as the swing tackle. You want Joe Barksdale. I

1013
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: just told you Alonzo Russell was in position to be this.

1014
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: He was going to be the sixth wide receiver. They

1015
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: just got from the bendle. So now it's about if

1016
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: if he's if he's in a certain spot of thet

1017
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: we got. The goal post gets moved as we continue

1018
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: the conversation. If you're the fourth wide receiver, it's okay,

1019
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: you have a little bit more leeway than the sixth

1020
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: wide receive. If you're the fifth offensive lineman, in the

1021
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: sixth offensive lineman, I want to see a little bit

1022
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: more on the resume. If you're the offensive lineman, you

1023
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: could stay at the snack bar on the opposite wing

1024
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: of the facility and you can eat until your heart's content.

1025
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: It's okay, all right, I'm just glad with verify that.

1026
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take these three more calls on

1027
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: the line, and then we're gonna do our predictions for

1028
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: the season. Going to be a drink after this show.

1029
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: I've do a lit bit. But anyway, hello a doel

1030
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: and he doesn't, which is a mistake on the market. Um, yes,

1031
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,959
Speaker 1: you guys, who do you guys talk about Alex Cande

1032
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: and how important he is the in the QB room

1033
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: helping again? And I do, I do? I do again?

1034
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: This this is an our argument. We're telling you what

1035
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: the giants think about it. That's all we're trying to

1036
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: explain her. I understand. So why couldn't they hire him

1037
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: as a coach or consultant and use that spot as

1038
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: for the positional depths. This guy is never going to

1039
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 1: see the film which you needed to see the field

1040
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: and he's just there to be a classroom guy to

1041
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: help Daniel don't break down film. Why use up that

1042
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: positional slot spot for that and not use him as

1043
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: a coach or consultant and use that spot for you

1044
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: know what what depth somewhere else? Well? He he will,

1045
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: he will. He will be on the field during the

1046
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: week doing scout team stuff in practice, so he will

1047
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: be doing more than just what a coach would do,

1048
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: So he will be taking up I thought I thought

1049
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones would play with the scout guy. I don't

1050
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: know what their plan is for that, To be honest

1051
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: with you, I don't have the answer to that. Is

1052
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: that legal? Could you ask you do that? Do? What

1053
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: could that be a better way of But what do

1054
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: you mean what what's legal. Well, I don't know. I'm

1055
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: not hiring Tanny as a coach. I think it was

1056
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: his question. Oh yeah, I mean if you let a

1057
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: guy go off the roster, you could hire them, assuming

1058
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: he also was open to that too. I mean, that's

1059
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: that's a big part of the equation. Did we run

1060
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: this by Tanny? Did? Did he want to retire? Does

1061
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: he want to step away and stop pursuing a career

1062
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: as a quarterback? I don't know, right it just seems

1063
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: like you know that you have fifty three guys, and

1064
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: it's it's having a player is so important, and if

1065
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: you usually if he's like this guy's never gonna play,

1066
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: but we're still going to keep him. Let me let

1067
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: me ask you this question. Let me ask you this question. Okay,

1068
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: who are you upset? What position? Right now? Can you

1069
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: point to me that you feel like they need an

1070
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: extra body? Should have kept? But I don't like the

1071
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: reasoning behind it? Well, see I do. Here's the thing.

1072
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: I've never I've never been in a quarterback room before,

1073
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: so I have a feel for how it works in there,

1074
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: but neither Lance or I know for sure how it works. Now.

1075
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: No one knows more about a quarterback's room than Pat

1076
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: Schremer does. If he thinks that it's a real benefit

1077
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: to have him in there, I have a hard time

1078
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: telling him that it's not beneficial because I've I've never

1079
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: been in this situation before, you know what I mean.

1080
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: I just have a hard time making the case. Who retired?

1081
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: I couldn't play Jonathan Star. You're talking about Jonathan billion

1082
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: dollars a mentor for bag for Barkley. It seems like

1083
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: that they have a pensant of doing this, you know,

1084
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: and and and it's it's not it was a running

1085
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: back last year. How dull? In fairness, I think Jonathan

1086
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: Stewart would have gotten said number the same number of

1087
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: snap's wing Alman got last year. If he hadn't gotten hurt,

1088
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: he would have played. He got on i R very

1089
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: early in the season. Yeah, well he keep playing. You know,

1090
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: we watched him play. He wasn't that good. You know,

1091
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: he got in for a couple of games during the preduders.

1092
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, think you fumbled the ball and had but

1093
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: but but he played five snaps in the preseason. That dull.

1094
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: Come on, Well, don't use five preseason snaps as a

1095
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: basis of whether or not a guy complaining well and abdual.

1096
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: But but here's the thing. Your argument about Tanny is

1097
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: he's eating up a roster spot. Stewart barely ate up

1098
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: a roster spot because he went on I R. When

1099
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: you go on I R, you don't count against anyone

1100
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: care that anyone care that ever, And do it just

1101
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: real quick, you realize Evan signing, he said he was

1102
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: there to be a mentor, right that that was a

1103
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: big selling part. Absolutely absolutely, no one's arguing that. So

1104
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: I think someone a few weeks ago, someone when you calls,

1105
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: brought it up, like the fact that the Giants are

1106
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: a pension of signing players as mentors, you know, and

1107
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that if that's the best use

1108
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: of roster well and listen, I get where you're coming from.

1109
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: But once again, that's why appreciate asked you and appreciate

1110
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: the call. My counter question was who did they let

1111
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: go over? What position? Did you feel they need an

1112
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: extra body? And here's the other thing, John, they have

1113
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: ten guys on the practice squad. In the event, John,

1114
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: somebody gets hurt or they need to add a player,

1115
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: that's why you have the practice squad. You then boost

1116
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: somebody up and you make a roster change. We're operating

1117
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: right now with the roster going into week one. The

1118
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: roster going into week one does not mean this is

1119
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: the roster John, for seventeen weeks of the season. So

1120
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: let's also understand that there's gonna be guys that are

1121
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: gonna be brought up and let go over the course

1122
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: of a season. That's the nature of the beast. So

1123
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: I think, once again, I get where fans are coming

1124
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: from in terms of you don't see a third quarterback

1125
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: playing at any point this season, John, I think that's

1126
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: a logical conclusion, and I get where they're coming from

1127
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: borring a catastrophe, barring a catastrophe, But once again, it's

1128
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: not as if there's not options for the Giants to

1129
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: make a transaction to help their cause in the event

1130
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: they need help it in another position. And once again,

1131
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: if you look at also Pat Schremer's track record, and

1132
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and I'll look at this even

1133
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: more closely, I would say, off the top of my head,

1134
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: from just recollection, majority of the teams he's been with,

1135
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: whether he's been a coach or a coordinator, they've had

1136
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks on the roster, and that's one of the

1137
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: reasons why he's coming from a position of to your point,

1138
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: he's comfortable with having three quarterbacks in the quarterback room

1139
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: because that's what he's been around, and that's what he's

1140
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: used to and just like anything else, would guys have

1141
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: track records, you learn from your previous experiences. If it's

1142
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: worked for other young quarterbacks and other veterans, why not

1143
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: continue it here with the Giants. How many calls last

1144
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: year we do we get Lands about how Evan Brown

1145
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: was wasting a roster spot for sixteen weeks because he

1146
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: was always inactive. Yeah, he didn't play in one game, correct,

1147
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: he was on the roster did Why didn't anybody care

1148
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: about that? Well, because Charlie was busy looking at other

1149
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: other offensive linemen and he have time to call in

1150
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: about that. That's my answer for you. But that's my point.

1151
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 1: You know, roster spots are important. But as Land said,

1152
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: you have the practice squad. As far as I can tell,

1153
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: there wasn't anybody the Giants were desperately wanted to get

1154
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: onto their practice squad that got clammed by other guy

1155
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: other teams. As far as I can tell, I don't

1156
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: know exactly what the you know, mechanics were of that.

1157
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: But I get it. This is why we're here. We're

1158
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: talking about Minusha. I get it. At last, couple of

1159
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: guys in the roster, not that big of a deal,

1160
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: but that's what we talk about around this time of year.

1161
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: I get it. But again, folks, I don't know how

1162
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: that quarterback room functions. I'm not in there. Lance isn't

1163
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: in there. You're not in there. The head coach understands it.

1164
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: He's he's a quarterback guy, he's an offensive guy. Remember,

1165
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: the Giants also don't have a specific quarterback coach either.

1166
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: They got Mike Sheila doing two jobs. So Ryan Rhoder's

1167
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: in there as well. I get it, but it's another

1168
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: thing to consider. Let's go to Drake in Atlanta. He's

1169
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: up next. What's up, Drake? What's that? Are no much now?

1170
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna talk about the city three now And

1171
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: this is a good clarification on your part. Yeah, he's

1172
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: still celebrating the ram. Yeh. Drey, on the other hand,

1173
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: is looking forward to Yeah, Drake's got too much on

1174
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: his play. But anyway, go ahead, arrest us to Sandy.

1175
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: To me, that's the perfect fit because he you look

1176
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: at you only see you're only suiting up for the

1177
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: six players. All VP three is not gonna be suited up, okay,

1178
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: so he's not taking up a spot. And in case

1179
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: something does happen to Eli and Daniel Jones is Stulls,

1180
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: then you have a veteran playing the number two that

1181
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: can still counsel Danis Jones while on the team instead

1182
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: of having to go out there in the waiver wire

1183
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: and bring somebody from the outside in that may count

1184
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: against the cap. So to me, I understand that, But

1185
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: I like where we at. We're compared to where we

1186
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: were at last year. You know we have now we

1187
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: have to me a stronger special team. We were upgraded

1188
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: with Alonso Alonso and were upgraded with b J. So

1189
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: in reference to the special teams aspect, now there what

1190
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: they bring to as actual players in reference to coverage

1191
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: on the defensive side with the linebacker, or reference to

1192
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: actually get on the field to catch passes in reference

1193
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: to courts to be seen. But the reason why we

1194
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: brought them in is that they do players, They play

1195
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: special teams and they also play on offense. So it

1196
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: gives us more versatility. Now One of my big issues

1197
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: with the Giants in the past is consistency. That's what

1198
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking for this year. Can we get consistent played

1199
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: from the offense, infinite defense, and from special teams? And

1200
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: I take answer, thanks for taking Thank you, Dre. And

1201
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that's to do with health.

1202
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can analyze these rosters and the

1203
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: players and the coaching staff and the schemes and all

1204
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: that's important. A lot of the timelines the team that's

1205
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: saying at the end of the team that had the

1206
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: fewest injuries, and that's something we can't sit here and

1207
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: predict right now. So I think that a lot in

1208
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, Dre has to do with consistency.

1209
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: I think last year we had a pretty good idea

1210
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: of what Giant team was showing up every week. The

1211
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: year before, they were three and thirteen, we didn't know

1212
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: what the hell was gonna happen weekend. Remember those factor

1213
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: fictions and overrun the day before the each game on

1214
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: the priest pregame show. There's a reason all of us

1215
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: are well under five were well under that year besides

1216
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: the fact they weren't competent. But um, but yeah, we

1217
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: just didn't know. You know, we will go into a matchup,

1218
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: say you know this team, the Giants should be able

1219
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: to throw on them, then you would have like a

1220
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: hundred and ten passing yards or they you know, they're

1221
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: their secondaries poor, they should be to throw on the more.

1222
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: You know, the Giants should be able to slow down

1223
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: there the passing game, and things just didn't happen though

1224
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: we you thought last year, I thought we the team

1225
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: was a bit more predictable, And I don't mean that

1226
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: in a bad way, Like you knew what they were

1227
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: gonna do, but you could figure out based on matchups

1228
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: how games were gonna go. And I think week to

1229
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: week they were more consistent that way last year than

1230
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: maybe they wore the past a couple of years before that. Well,

1231
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: I've always said that the defense, to me, is going

1232
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: to tell an awful lot about the upside of this team,

1233
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: especially with questions surrounding the pass rush as well as

1234
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: the ability to stop the run. But I agree with Dre.

1235
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly this team needs to prove that it

1236
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: could not be Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde week to week,

1237
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: or else you're going to be a team that's gonna

1238
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: have a streak where you're hot one a few weeks

1239
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: or so, and then all of a sudden, you know

1240
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna go on the opposite end of the spectrum.

1241
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: And in order for the Giants to overcome that, they

1242
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: do need to prove that the way they end one

1243
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: game they could carry it over to the next game.

1244
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: And also, to your point, John, they need to avoid

1245
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: the injury bug. A big part of success of the

1246
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: NFL is having your core stay relatively healthy so that

1247
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: you don't have constant turnover and you're not constantly putting

1248
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: a new personnel. And if the Giants can stay away

1249
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: from the injury bug really defining this season. I think

1250
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: that's also going to give them a legitimate shot to

1251
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: remain competitive. Terrell and Philly will be our final car.

1252
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: Then we'll give your NFL predictions for the year. Terrell,

1253
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: what's up, how are you guys doing? Thanks? Thanks for

1254
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: calling him? All right, this first thing, I see that

1255
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: they just waved date Goods and uh, well yeah, way

1256
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: and bringing a guy Dot or Mayo or whatever his

1257
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: name is, Mayo, that's correct. Yeah, yeah, Well it seems

1258
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: to me that he's just like uh special teams player. Um,

1259
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: they say, that he's good around a lot of scrimmage.

1260
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: But to me, I think b J. Goodson was kind

1261
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: of good around a lot of scrimmage. I mean, to me,

1262
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: he was a for sure tackler. I think he gave

1263
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: it his all this preseason. Um, I don't know. I

1264
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: just just seemed like to me on that one, it

1265
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: just seemed like they just just flip flop players. It

1266
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: just seemed like, I don't know, maybe he was a

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00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: good special team player. I don't know, honestly, I I

1268
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: you just hit it. Mayle is a better special teams guy.

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00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: B J. Goodson was the fourth linebacker. Odds already was

1270
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: gonna play a lot on base defense anyway, So why

1271
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: not go with the guy that's better special team? So

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00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: I think you answered your own question there. Yeah. Also,

1273
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: I was kind of disimportant that they let Alonzo Russell go.

1274
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: I think that guy gave his oh Man going the

1275
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: off season, and uh, I don't know, It's just that

1276
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: it seemed like the player they brother for him, I

1277
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, what are you going to do it? Man?

1278
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: He's going to be what the sixth receiver? I mean,

1279
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think he deserved let

1280
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Yeah, and I get it.

1281
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: You know, there's a land of the unknown with Cody Core.

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00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: Nobody's expected. You have broken down Bengals tape over the

1283
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: last few years. But when you say Core is gonna

1284
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: be the six wide receiver, what was Russell gonna be? Yeah?

1285
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: But Russell was a good good special team sir. He

1286
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: was a good gunner. No, but here's the thing, Terrell,

1287
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: this is what that's the thing. Cody Core is a

1288
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: battle special, is a better special teams player than Russell,

1289
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: And I think that explains that move. So Russell, maybe

1290
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: you like what he showed. They look obviously they liked

1291
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: Russell too. They kept him on the initial fifty three,

1292
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: so they think he's a player. It's not like they

1293
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: thought he stunk, otherwise he would have been on that

1294
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: fifty three on on Sunday. They just think that Core

1295
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: is better at some of the things that that six

1296
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver position can contribute to on a weekly basis.

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01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: But Mber, he's number six. He's not gonna get a

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01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: lot of snaps on offense. So if you find a

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: guy that's a better special teamer and you think they

1300
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: have similar upside in terms of you know future ability.

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01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: The guys are about the same age. It's not like

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01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: one guy is much older younger than the other. That's

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01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: why you would go with a guy like Core over

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01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: Russell because that breaks the tie. And speaking of age,

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01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean cor was a teammate of Evan ingram At,

1306
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: so you know that just goes to show you he's

1307
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: not an old guy that they brought in. Okay, one

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01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: more question, I take it off the air. What do

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01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: you guys think they could have done better? Or who

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01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: did the guys that you think they should have kept

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01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: or let go? And I take my question off there,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, and then no problem. Honestly, I hit

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01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: most of them. I thought twa f would be guy

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01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: they might keep it. They got in the practice squad,

1315
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: so that was the right move. I thought they would

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01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: keep Dickerson and Conrad. They end up getting Conrade into

1317
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: the practice squad. They brought in a black uh blocker

1318
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: from elsewhere, so I think that kind of went the

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01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: way I thought. I did not have goods on in

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01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: my final fifty three there and they're gonna you know,

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01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: they're waving him now. Um Russell I had on my

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01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: fifty three. But again you found a guy from the outside.

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01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm not a Cody Core expert, so all of the

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01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, yield to their expertise on that. Um. Otherwise,

1325
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: I had one more defensive lineman on my final roster,

1326
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: but I only had five on my initial one before camp.

1327
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: I wish I would have stuck with my gut there

1328
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: and done that. Uh, they kept the defensive backs I

1329
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: thought they were gonna keep. Nothing really surprised me there,

1330
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: so no, I don't think they let anyone go. The

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01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: biggest surprise for me, I think was probably the lett

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01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: in Tanny, just because I you know, I let the

1333
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: low letta preseason performance probably change my initial impression because

1334
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, three months ago I was with you. I'm like, yeah,

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01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: I think Tanny is gonna be the guy because of

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01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: all the stuff we talked about today. But I've let

1337
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: my mind get changed by what I saw in preseason games,

1338
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: which I guess was a mistake on my part. UM.

1339
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: I thought they would try to find an extra tackle

1340
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: on the fragent market. Given Mahalak, you know, the injury

1341
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 1: issues he had over the course of camp, and Gates

1342
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: and Slade, I'm not sure they're pure tackles as Charlie

1343
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: pointed out, So there was really nothing that shocked me

1344
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: in terms of how this went down. Lands. Yeah, I

1345
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,479
Speaker 1: wasn't stunned either. I'm actually bringing up my fifty three.

1346
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: I had tweeted this out. I was off by three guys.

1347
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, my biggest surprise was Rod Smith going on

1348
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: I R. I didn't necessarily think that that was gonna happen.

1349
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: I thought maybe they'd keep him on the fifty three

1350
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: then put him on I R. And Simonson got hurt

1351
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: in that final preseason game, so I had him on

1352
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: the roster too, And I thought Evan Brown would have

1353
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 1: been retained because he was on the fifty three. Lags.

1354
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: You had Stupar a good job, yes, and I did

1355
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: not have goods in and I had eleven defensive backs.

1356
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: And I went with your initial gut with Tanny because

1357
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: I was listening more to what Shermer had to say,

1358
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,479
Speaker 1: what he values in the quarterback room, and not letting

1359
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: the preseason. I try never to get caught up too

1360
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: much in preseason performed. You know what got me. I'm

1361
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: not sure if Shermer said it in the in the

1362
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: one of the last press conferences, or he said it

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01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: in our production meeting before the final preseason game, he said,

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01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: I like to be in the quarterback development business. And

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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: when I heard that, I'm like, m, If you want

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01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: to be in the quarterback development business and continuing trying to,

1367
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, develop your next backup quarterback, then maybe Loletta

1368
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: is the guy, and that's why. And honestly, that phrase

1369
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: is why I ended up changing my mind and I regretted.

1370
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: Now obviously know that that was my gut and I've

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01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: heard that phrase too. However, based on what we were

1372
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, you can interpret that statement as Tanny

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01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: helps you achieve the business of developing because he's going

1374
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: to develop Jones, so you're using him as an asset

1375
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: to continue to develop. All right, let's go through our

1376
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: NFL season predictions here. We'll have some fun with it.

1377
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: We'll do some division winners, and then we'll do um

1378
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: a f C NFC championship game in the Super Bowl.

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01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: All right, Let's start in the f C lance a

1380
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: f C East New England Patriots. So I don't think

1381
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be betting against the team that has dominated

1382
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: that division. Even though I am very high on the

1383
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. They were a under the radar wild card team.

1384
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: For me, I didn't go with them, but they were

1385
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: in the conversation for me. With the wild card a

1386
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: f C North, everyone wants to to turn the page here.

1387
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: I think the Pittsburgh Steeler says time out. Not so fast. Yeah,

1388
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers have the better track record. They also have

1389
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: done a really good job developing wide receivers and James

1390
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: Conner did a nice job filling it for Levan Bell.

1391
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: So I don't crown teams are winning the off season

1392
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: based on the hype award. I think Pittsburgh's gonna win

1393
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: the division a f C South with Andrew lux retirement.

1394
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm going Houston Texans here. I think Tunsil helps them.

1395
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: They were already close to win the division last year.

1396
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: Another year for DeShawn Watson and Will Fuller can stay healthy,

1397
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, that'll help them in the passing game. I

1398
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: think they'll figure out the running back thing. I'm going

1399
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: with the Texas. I'm very concerned about the Houston defense,

1400
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: john as I said earlier in the program. So it's

1401
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: hard for me to you know, like those second area.

1402
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: Is that what you're worried about. I'm also worried about

1403
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: the front seven and can J. J. Wattrouve he could

1404
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: play sixteen games? John? How about that? And I mean

1405
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to do that. You know, Whitney

1406
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: Merciless alone is not gonna make up for maybe a

1407
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: loss Watt and Clowney not being in the big so

1408
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: I at really, I think the Jacksonville Jaguars are gonna

1409
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: have a bounce back season. I've been very high on

1410
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: their defense, and their defense with solid last season. The

1411
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: problem is offensive line, major injuries. Quarterback did not develop

1412
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: as much as they would hope. You get Nick Foles,

1413
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: healthier offensive line, Leonard Fournett with the running game. I

1414
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: I like Jacksonville bouncing back. I got the Chiefs in

1415
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: the f C West. I would go with the Chiefs

1416
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: as well. And my two wild card teams I have

1417
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars as one, and I have the San

1418
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: Diego Charges as number two. Yes, or the Los Angeles

1419
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 1: Chargers as they're better known. But it's okay. You're living

1420
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: in the actual Charlie today. Actually, I heard Julius Peppers

1421
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: is playing for they. The two of them, I'm sure

1422
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: are very happy with San Diego defense man watch out

1423
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna cause a lot of trouble. I have the

1424
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: Chargers as a wild card as well, and the other

1425
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: team that I have is a wild card in the

1426
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: a f C. I think the South is gonna have

1427
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: two representatives, and I actually think the Cults are gonna

1428
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: surprise a lot of people. See, I'm not as big

1429
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: as Umberset as you are. I know you like Persett,

1430
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm not as big. Well, it's not so much of

1431
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: being high on Brissette. I like the pieces around Brissette

1432
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: and as long as Brissette allows the pieces to do

1433
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: their thing. He's got a good offensive line, and I

1434
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: think their defense is underrated. I think Indianapolis is going

1435
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: to remain in the thicket things and be that quiet

1436
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: team that makes some noise. Remember they started off one

1437
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: and five john with Andrew Luck as their quarterback last year.

1438
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: People forget about that and then they turn things around. So,

1439
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, as great as Andrew Luck is, and I'm

1440
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: not trying to take anything away from them, but it

1441
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: wasn't as if he came back healthy last year and

1442
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: they just roared all their way to the postseason. Who

1443
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: you got in then FC Championship Game a f C

1444
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: championship game. Well, you know, it's so hard to pick

1445
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: against New England, but I do like what Kansas City

1446
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: did to help restructure their defense, and you've got spags there.

1447
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: I'll lean towards the Kansas City Chiefs finding a way

1448
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: to actually get it done this year and say they'll

1449
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: come out and represent the a f C. I have

1450
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: a replay of the same championship games last year. Same

1451
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: you Keeves Patriots, and sorry, Andy Reid, I don't blame you.

1452
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: I was burnt last year. I thought they're gonna do it.

1453
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: Last year. I got burned. I'm still feeling it. Burt Alright,

1454
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: NFC real quick, Um, NFC West, I got upset. I'm

1455
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: going Seattle Seahawks out of the NFC West. Yeah. I

1456
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: bet against Seattle every year and then it comes back

1457
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: to bite me. Well you got the Rams though, there

1458
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: there you do. I would say I'll go with the

1459
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: Rams is their division, because I went back and forth.

1460
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: I'll go with the Rams winning the division. Seattle, though,

1461
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: I think as a really strong case of getting a

1462
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: wild card this year. NFC South, I like the Saints

1463
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: as my division winner, and I have the Falcons as

1464
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: a wild card with division as the Saints is a

1465
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: divisional winner, and I do not have anybody else out

1466
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: of the South making the postseason interesting, so you can't

1467
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: have them beating each other up and keeping their records down.

1468
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: NFC North, I'm going with the Minnesota Vikings to win

1469
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: that division. I think the Bears are gonna win the division.

1470
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings are gonna get a wild card, okay.

1471
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: And then end of the East, I'm gonna have to

1472
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 1: go with the Philadelphia Eagles. Unfortunately, I'm back and forth

1473
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: with the Eagles and the Cowboys. I mean, I've said

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Speaker 1: this all offseason. I think those are the strongest teams

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Speaker 1: on pay but right now, I mean, the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: for Dallas is whether or not this running game can

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Speaker 1: sustain the strength of the team if Zeke doesn't play

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Speaker 1: or is in and out of the lineup. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: lean though, towards the Cowboys winning the division. You have

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Speaker 1: then Philly as a wild card. No, I because my

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Speaker 1: two wild cards are Seattle in Minnesota. So I think

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Speaker 1: the NFC East only gets one team interesting, and I

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Speaker 1: had the Rams as my wild card, but Bob Papa

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Speaker 1: can do this morning that I should pick Dallas, So

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Speaker 1: I switched UM and then NFC Title Game. I have

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Speaker 1: the Eagles and Saints, and I have a replay of

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl from two years ago. I have the

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Speaker 1: Patriots and the Eagles in the Super bowling, and I

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Speaker 1: have the Patriots getting some revenge this year. I like

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Speaker 1: the Saints having redemption. And as much as I've poked

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Speaker 1: fun at Saints fans this entire off, think they're way

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Speaker 1: too emotional, I actually really like New Orleans getting the

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Speaker 1: job done and getting to the Super Bowl, Saints Chiefs

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl for me, who wins? And New

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Speaker 1: Orleans winning the Super Bowl. Okay, there we go, folks.

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Speaker 1: You know what's not gonna happen. We'll find out what happens.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being us on this Labor Day on Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kick Golf Live and only went a little bit long.

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Speaker 1: Apologize for that. Hope you enjoyed it. Remember regular seasons

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Speaker 1: here every day at one thirty, that will be our

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Speaker 1: time throughout the season. We have to work around the

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Speaker 1: media schedule here with the Giants will go back to

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Speaker 1: our usual Folks will be Lands and I most Mondays,

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's it will be primarily russ Alisburg and Paulatino. It'll

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Speaker 1: be Russ and David Deal on Wednesday, Lance and Paul

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, and then Jeff Eagles and I will be

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Speaker 1: on Friday's. We'll have some days where it switches around

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Speaker 1: during the year, but that will be primarily be our

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Speaker 1: schedule again, one thirty every day during the regular season,

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kick Golf Live on giants dot com and

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Speaker 1: of course, the archive can be found on all your

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Speaker 1: favorite podcast platforms as well as giants dot com and

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Speaker 1: the Giants Mobile app. For Lance Medal on John Schmilk

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Speaker 1: the regular season, this here. Enjoy your labor Day. We

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