1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: about this week's full episode subject on Marilyn Manson. We 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 1: are previewing the coming b York episode, talking about the 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: worst bands of the nineties, and we go through your voicemails, 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: text DMS emails and as always, a whole lot of rosie. 14 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: All right, Discos, let's get into it. So I'm reading 15 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: this great book called Maidens by Alex Mikilitis. I think 16 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: that's how you pronounce his name. Apology's Alex if I 17 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: got that wrong. It's one of those modern day I 18 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: get the Christie type who'd done it. Books that we've 19 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: talked about here. Books. I love books. I know a 20 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: bunch of you love as well. And last night, I 21 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: came across this passage that I thought was super relevant 22 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: to the music in true crime storytelling that we're doing here. 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: It's short, I'm going to read it to you now. 24 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: It says a long time ago, psychopathy used to be 25 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: called simply evil. People who were evil, who took delight 26 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: in hunting or killing others were written about ever since 27 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: Mideia took an axe to her children, and probably long 28 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: before that. The word psychopath was coined by a German 29 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: psychiatrist in eighteen eighty eight, the same year Jack the 30 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: Ripper terrorized London from the German word psycho pastiche, literally 31 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: meaning suffering soul. For Marianna, that's the character in the book. 32 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: For Mariana, this was the clue, the suffering, the sense 33 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: that these monsters were also in pain. Thinking about them 34 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: as victims allowed her to be more rational in her 35 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: approach and more compassionate. Psychopathy or sadism never appeared from nowhere. 36 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: It was not a virus infecting someone out of the blue. 37 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: It had a long prehistory in childhood. And that's the 38 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: end of the passage. So basically, what that quote is 39 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: telling us, and what medical history is telling us, is 40 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: that psychopaths are not born, They're baked in childhood from 41 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: the suffering that these people experience from their own past trauma. Now, 42 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: in almost every episode that we've covered here where we 43 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: dive into a musician's past, particularly the more psychotic musicians, 44 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: the ones who have allegedly killed like Jerry V. Lewis, 45 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: those who are sexually abusive, megalomaniacs like Diddy, the psychotically 46 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: ambitious like Madonna, the violently drug crazed like James Brown, 47 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 1: and every one of those cases we find in our 48 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: research suffering. As the quote that I just read to 49 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: you says, Now, as always, I'm not excusing these quote 50 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: unquote suffering souls. I'm simply trying to understand them. And 51 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: like I've always said, what made James Brown carry a 52 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: shotgun across cross country police chase and violently abuse women 53 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: while fueled on crazy amounts of drugs? Okay, what made 54 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: him do that is the same thing that made one 55 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: of the greatest musicians in the history of the world. 56 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: The fact that he was raised in a whorehouse and 57 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: disciplined as a young boy by being held upside down 58 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: in a burl bag and beaten with a wooden Stick. 59 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Without that trauma, you don't get the drive to become 60 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: the hardest working man in show business, and you don't 61 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: get that artistry, and you don't get the psychotic behavior either. 62 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: Same goes for the rest of the musicians that I mentioned. Now, 63 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: for those of you who are new to Disgrace ND 64 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: this week, again, we're not trying to excuse the behavior 65 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: of these musicians. We're just trying to understand it. So 66 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: to this week's episode subject, Marilyn Manson, that quote that 67 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: I read you says that before they had the word psychopath, 68 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: they just called those who willingly hurt others evil. The 69 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: introduction of the word introduced the concept of suffering and 70 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: thus the possibility, I guess, of further understanding. We all 71 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: understand evil. It's black and white. Psychopathy is a little 72 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: more gray, a little more complicated. Now, do I think 73 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Ditty is a psychopath? Yes? Do I let Ditty off 74 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: the hook for what he's done? No? Do I understand 75 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: why he did it? Yeah? I kind of do. As 76 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: you can tell from the two full Sean Combs episodes 77 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: that we've released, particularly Part two that dels into his 78 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: history and the murder of his father, by a notorious 79 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Harlem gangster. That trauma, that suffering. It not only allows 80 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: us to understand what these artists have done, but it 81 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: also in some cases, not in all, but in some cases, 82 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: drives the artists to contrition, to empathy. But what about 83 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: this week's subject, Marilyn Manson. Was his behavior that we 84 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: detailed in this episode psychotic? Yes, was there past suffering 85 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: in his life trauma debatable? Now. I was struck when 86 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: reading Marilyn Manson's autobiography by the fact that there's nearly 87 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: zero examples of the artist's humanity quite the opposite. In 88 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: humanity is one of the goals of the artists. In 89 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: the one time that the artist that Marilyn Manson bends 90 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: toward humanity, it's for completely selfish reasons, if we're to 91 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: believe him, because he believes that being humane will help 92 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: him with his art. So what does that make Marilyn Manson, Well, 93 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: it makes him unique amongst all the subjects that we've covered. 94 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: But does his lack of humanity, his striving for inhumanity, 95 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: not only make him a psychopath but instead make him evil? 96 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Truly evil? I don't know the answer to that, but 97 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: I hope the answer is no, I'm always rooting for 98 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: the comeback, just like Don Kove and a certain Jewish carpenter, 99 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: I've always rooting for mercy. Part of what I think 100 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: is going on here with Marilyn Manson is I think, 101 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, in his autobiography, I think he's a bit 102 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: of an unreliable narrator. He's trying, no, I I was 103 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: about to say desperately, but not desperately. He's trying in 104 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: the autobiography to paint a picture of a different type 105 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: of artists, and he does a damn good job in 106 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: doing that. Now, what we think of that artist is 107 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: a completely different story. There's been a ton of hate 108 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: and anger directed to Marilyn Manson in our social posts 109 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: this week, and I get it. I get the anger. 110 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: But one poster commented that Marilyn Manson aka Brian Warner 111 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: has cleaned himself up. In my research, I've come across 112 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: next to no examples of empathy from Marilyn Manson. I 113 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: hope it exists. I hope it's there. If anyone's a fan, 114 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: hit me up, let me know, let me know what 115 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, If Brian Warner has had some 116 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: sort of redemption beyond getting just back on the road 117 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: and filling stadiums and getting his career going again. If 118 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: he's changed in any demonstrably humane ways, I want to know, 119 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: so hit me up six point seven nine oh six 120 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: six sixty three eight on voicemail and text, or at 121 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Disgrace lampod on the socials. We'll keep the Marilyn Manson 122 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: conversation at a low hum. We'll keep that going and 123 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: figure this out, try and get more into it, because 124 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, love him or hate him, you just can't 125 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: get around the fact that he's a fascinating individual. All right, 126 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: speaking of fascinating individuals like yourselves. This week, for those 127 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: of you who are new here, let me break it 128 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: down for you. Okay, let me break it down for 129 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: you what we do here, all right. On Tuesdays, we 130 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: release a new full scripted, sound designed episode of Disgraceland, 131 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: our bread and Butter, so to speak, like we just 132 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: did this past Tuesday with Marilyn Manson. On Thursdays, we 133 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: release these after party bonus episodes where we discussed the 134 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: full episode and where I take your calls and texts 135 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: relative to the full episodes. Question of the week, which 136 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: gets asked the week prior, and at the end of 137 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: the full episodes, on Fridays, we dip into our archive 138 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: of over two hundred and thirty five full episodes and 139 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: relaunch a previously released episode. Okay, it's like when that 140 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: TV show that you used to watch back in the 141 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: day would air or rerun. Okay. We call these rewind episodes, 142 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: and we do this because we have so many days episodes, 143 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: all right. It helps expose new listeners to some of 144 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: our past hits. Occasionally, those rewind episodes that we release 145 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: on Fridays are part of a multi episode story, and 146 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: in that case we release both parts one and two 147 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: over the weekend, which is what we're doing this Friday 148 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: and this Saturday with our rewind episodes on The Rolling 149 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: Stones at Altamont and The Rolling Stones in Exile. These 150 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: are two of my favorite episodes on one of my 151 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: favorite bands of all time, and I cannot wait for 152 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: you guys to hear them if you have not already. 153 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: If you have, I can't wait for you to re 154 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: listen and get your deeper insight when we talk again 155 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: next week. Now, Next week on Tuesday is our new episode. 156 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: Our next new episode on b York and the truly 157 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: psychotic man, not a musician, truly psychotic man who tried 158 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: to murder her. Okay, this is our swing at one 159 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: of those old school nineties obsession suspense thrillers. All right, 160 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: that's what we try to do in this episode. So 161 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: when you're listening to that episode, guys, be thinking about 162 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: is the b York story the wildest story of obsession 163 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: and deranged fandom in music history. It's pretty fucking deranged, 164 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: as you shall hear. But if it's not the most arranged, 165 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: or if it is, either way, I want to hear 166 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: your thoughts on it. Six poet seven nine or six 167 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: six sixty three eight, voicemail and text with your answers, 168 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: and you might hear yourself on next week's after party. 169 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna take a quick break and drink 170 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: some tea, gonna give my voice arrest. I'll be back 171 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: in a flash though, with your calls text and DMS 172 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: on last week's question of the week of the most 173 00:10:32,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: subversive artists of the nineteen nineties. Background after this, all right, guys, 174 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: we are back, And as I say every week, you 175 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: know where I'm Adam in the phone booth, it's the 176 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: one across the hall. I am hanging on the telephone 177 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. 178 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: You want to get your voicemails into me? You want 179 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: to get your text into me? Six one seven nine 180 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. Real quick before we 181 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: get into the calls and the text and the emails 182 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: and all that. Please Apple podcast listeners, those of you 183 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: who are new, especially new Apple podcast listeners, make sure 184 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: you have auto downloads turned on for this show for 185 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: disgrace and that way you don't miss an episode ever. 186 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: All right, last week we released our episode on the 187 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: Go Gos, and we followed that up on Friday with 188 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: a rewind episode on Madonna. The Go Gos episode prompted 189 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: this conversation of the greatest girl groups of all time, 190 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: and we went through some some lists that we found online, 191 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: and strangely enough, despite having despite being the only group 192 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: of female musicians in the history of the world who 193 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: had a number one album, the Go Gos were left 194 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: off a lot of those lists. And you guys, clearly 195 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: were want to talk about that, and you want to 196 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: talk about some of the greatest girl groups of all time. 197 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: In addition to the Go gos and I want to 198 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: give you guys a little more space here on this subject. 199 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: So let's check out this voicemail from Katie in the 200 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: four to one four. 201 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, this is Katie from the four one four. Yeah, 202 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: I know it's a nine to one number, but I'm 203 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: a time flint anyway, I'm waits the game for the 204 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 2: best all female rock bands of all time. But after 205 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: listening to the after party, I am so disappointed that 206 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: Hanny was not even part of the conversation. They were 207 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: self taught musicians and wrote all their own music. There's 208 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: the first all female band to put out a full 209 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: length album on a major label, which. 210 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 3: Was none other than the Beatles'. 211 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: Label, Apple Records, and they were the first all female 212 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: bands to achieve a top forty hit in nineteen seventy one. 213 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 2: They were one of David Behi's favored bands, and he 214 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: has said about the un quote they were one of 215 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: the finest fucking rock bands of their time. They were extraordinary. 216 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: They wrote everything they played like motherfuckers was just colossal 217 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: and wonderful, and nobody ever mentions him. They're just as 218 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: important as anybody else who's ever been and ever, it 219 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: just flenn't their time. All that evidence and a Bowie endorsement. 220 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: They absolutely are just top spot on that Greatest of 221 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: All Times list. You definitely got to check. 222 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: Him out later, Katie. 223 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: I this is why I love discos, This is why 224 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: I love the Disgrace Handlis series. I have never ever 225 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: even heard of Fanny. I've never heard of Fanny. Unbelievable. 226 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: I just looked them up while I was listening to 227 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: your call, and I can't wait to listen to him. 228 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Apple Records, so you know it's 229 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: going to be real. David Bowie endorsement and for all 230 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: the reasons you just mentioned, Katie, thank you so much. 231 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: Everyone else, get into Fanny, give him a spin, Get 232 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: back to us, Get back to Katie, let us know 233 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: what you think. Six one seven nine oh six sixty 234 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: sixty three eight voicemail and text eight one two calls 235 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: in with the following voicemail. 236 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: Hey Jake, I'm sorry trying this one more time because 237 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: I am awkward on the phone. I just wanted to 238 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 3: point out the Slits as an all group band that 239 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: contributed a lot to punk rock specifically, and then the 240 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: other person I wanted to point out not an all 241 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: girl group, but as a front woman that hasn't been 242 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: mentioned as polystyrene from the X ray specs. I feel 243 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: like they deserve a mentioned regardless of how awkward I am. 244 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: And yeah, that's it, Thank you so much. 245 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Eight one two not awkward at all. Your voicemas are 246 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: always welcome here. Thank you. And I have to admit 247 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: I think we did. I think someone did mention the 248 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Slits briefly. Maybe it was on social media. It wasn't 249 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: in the after party, but I have to admit I've 250 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: of course heard of the Slits. I'm sure I have 251 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: heard the Slits, but I've never never actively sat down 252 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: and listened to a Slitz album. So callback or textback 253 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: six ones, have a nine oh six six sixty three 254 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: eight and tell me where to start. Give me one 255 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: one song or preferably one record, one album for me 256 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: to start with. For the Slits. Appreciate the wreck and 257 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: the call eight one two, Thank you very much. All right, 258 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: moving on to where are we going here? Let's go 259 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: to Toronto the four to one. 260 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: Six Jake, It is Diana calling from Toronto. I just 261 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: listened to the Marilyn Nanson episode. It was incredible. I 262 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: saw them open for Nine inch Nails in ninety six 263 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: in Toronto. It was incredible. They absolutely blew nine inch 264 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: nails out of the water and nine to nails through 265 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: an amazing show that night. Yeah, they they were great, 266 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: and you know, it takes a bunch of madness to 267 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: create art that good. But my interest in that artist 268 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: begins and ends with how they treat people consentually. Anyway, 269 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: you mentioned Al Jorgenson in that episode, Uncle Al. I 270 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: would love to hear an episode on Al Jorgenson. Such 271 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: an interesting person. And uh yeah, thanks so much. 272 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: Have a great day, Diana, preciate you a great call. 273 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Al Jorgensen from Ministry is definitely 274 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: on our list. He has been for a long, long, 275 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: long while. I know there are exillion stories out there, 276 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: but I'm interested in the sort of depravity and the crime, 277 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: assuming there's some true crime to Al's pass. But I'm 278 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: also just interested in that scene, that industrial scene, and 279 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: digging more into it. There's it's just so rich and 280 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of vivid details I'm sure 281 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: that spring from that research. So pumped to get into 282 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: Uncle Al. As you say, thanks to the call, Diana 283 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: up there in Toronto six one seven, nine oh six 284 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: sixty six three eight. You guys want to call me 285 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: a voicemail, send me a text nine three seven texts 286 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: in Hey must say it was genius that the tune 287 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: used from the melotron for the Marilyn Manson episode was 288 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: Winnie Cooper Broke My Heart. The Wonder Years ty in 289 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: did not go unnoticed. Rock a rolla bill from the 290 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: nine three seven Bill from the nine three seven. I 291 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: gotta say, back when I was I was a little 292 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: kid myself, Sean Hastings up on Birded Hill, we were 293 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: crushing hard on Winnie Cooper. So obviously the Paul from 294 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: Winnie Cooper rumor gave us this in I've mentioned Winnie 295 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: Cooper prior in episodes in the show. I don't know where, 296 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: back in the past somewhere. If someone hears it right 297 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: back in, let me know. Six seven eight rights in, Hey, Jake, 298 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: I think you should do a hair metal episode on 299 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: whoever you dislike the most? But seriously, I think most 300 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: influential of their generation is George Michael John Jony from 301 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: the six seven eight Jony, thank you so much. Yikes, 302 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: who who do I dislike the most? From the hair 303 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: metal scene. That's tough. That's tough. It would probably be 304 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: whoever is sort of the most, whoever has the most 305 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: lack of humor about themselves. You know what I liked 306 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: about Poison Brett Michael's aside. I liked that CC, even 307 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: though I hated the band, I liked that C. C. 308 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: Deville was in on the joke. You know, he kind 309 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: of had this attitude like I just I just want 310 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: to play guitar, man, I don't know why got me 311 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: dressed like a fucking cue tip, you know, like he's 312 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: got the white hair, the white sneakers. I think that 313 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: dude was genuinely I could be wrong, but I think 314 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: he was genuinely like into New York Dolls, into Johnny Thunders, 315 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: and that's kind of what he wanted to be. But 316 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: he ended up in that band. And I love that 317 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: sense of humor, being able to laugh at yourself about 318 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: the ridiculousness of yourself and your music. And I mean 319 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: that goes for the great rock and roll bands. All 320 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: of them are ridiculous. Some love. I mean, it's a 321 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 1: fucking rock and roll I mean, after spinal Tap, you know, 322 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: the veil was lifted. We know what's happening, so I 323 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: don't know. To Jony's point here, if there are any 324 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: hair metal bands that just are not in on the 325 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: joke that took themselves very seriously, hit me up, let 326 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: me know. Maybe I'll dig into that. I don't know. 327 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't like being overly negative, but it is an 328 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: interesting angle. Jewels from the four two five up in Seattle, texting, Hey, 329 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: I grew up in LA and your show about the 330 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: Go Gos takes me back. I was hunk back then 331 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: and too young for clubs, but a friend of mine 332 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: knew the doorman at the Whiskey got to see the 333 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: police when Sting was still chubby and they were all 334 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: sunburned as hell. I don't recall, but I think that 335 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: night at the Mask my friend got into a fight 336 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: with the singer from the Dickies. Good times, love your shows, 337 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: love the personal recollection here, Jules appreciate you six one 338 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: seven nine six six six three eight you want to 339 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: hit me up? Six one seven texts and hey, there's 340 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: no way we didn't cross paths in the pit or 341 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: at Pizzeria Regina or Newberry Comics are all three Back 342 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: in the day in Harvard Square I was neither a 343 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: punk or a metal head so much as a hard 344 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: rocker who was friends with both. That's kind of like 345 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: what I was, really, I mean, yeah, really. It goes 346 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: on to say the most memorable night was his metal 347 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: head with crazy long red hair named Kyle, who was 348 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: first to get his hands on nineteen eighty seven's Garage 349 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: Days re Revisited before anyone else, and he unwrapped the cassette, 350 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,239 Speaker 1: threw it in his boombox, and we all listened to 351 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: it for the first time that night, and we were 352 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: blown away. I can remember that I wasn't there, but 353 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: I had my own exact experience with Garage Days. I 354 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: remember it was coming. We were all waiting for it 355 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: down at City Hall Music on High Street in Clinton, 356 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: mass and I think they had the poster up before 357 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: the album was even available at the store, and we 358 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: were just salivating. Wanted to hear the first taste of 359 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: Metallica without Cliff Burton, of course, Jason Newstead. What a great, great, 360 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: great piece of music. Garage Days eighty seven. Damn, that 361 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: was a long time ago. Six one seven nine oh 362 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: six six six three eight. You guys want to hit 363 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: me up on voicemail or text on anything. That's how 364 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: you do it. Gonna want to hear next week your 365 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: answers to the question of the week regarding B York 366 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: in our B York episode which is coming up, and 367 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: that's going to be, of course, is the B York Story, 368 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: the emblematic story of the most obsessed fan in music history, 369 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Fans, if you're listening, you might have something 370 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: to say about this, But check out that Buyork episode. 371 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: Get at me, let me know six one seven nine 372 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight on the voicemail in 373 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: the text machine. You can also DM me at disgracelam 374 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: pod active on Instagram, active on x active on Facebook 375 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: as well, if that is your chosen form of communication. 376 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: I am here for Justin g on Facebook right saying, hey, 377 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: poor old Fatty always getting the bum wrap. Justin's talking 378 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: about our Hollywood Land episode today on Fatty Arabuckle. I'll 379 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit later in the episode. 380 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: Christopher Labella right, say hey, Jake, where's Van Halen? Part three? 381 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: I can't find it? Go Gos were great. Took me 382 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: right back to nineteen eighty two eighty four when I 383 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: was eight to ten years old watching him on MTV. Christopher, 384 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: there is no part three on van Halen. I think 385 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: we said all there needs to be said about van Halim. 386 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: But Christopher, if you disagree, write us back and let 387 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: us know. Guys at Disgrace lamp Pod on Facebook, on Instagram, 388 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: you want to hit me up, let me know anything 389 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: that's on your mind. I'm around. I'm here for you. 390 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm here for you every single week. You know that. 391 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't let you down, unlike some certain sports teams 392 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: I can name, but I'm not gonna do that. I'm 393 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: not going to do that in the sports. In the 394 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: thirty second sports rant, Matt, give me a little ticking clock. 395 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: I know you can do it. Give it to me, 396 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: give it to me, given me. I'm just gonna say, 397 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: right now, the fucking Red Sox, the fuck with the 398 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: Red Sox. Okay, this has been building. You heard it 399 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: last week. It's it's at a point where I'm almost 400 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: fully bailed on the season. And again it's the beginning 401 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: of June. Okay, I bought my son a Mets hat 402 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: the other day. I know Jan Soto's in a slump. 403 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't care. I need something to root for. In 404 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, and these Red Sox are beyond a disappointment. Okay, 405 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. That's the sports rant. I'm gonna 406 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: keep it light this week. I don't want to be cynical. 407 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to be negative, but they are forcing me. 408 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: They are backing me into a fucking quarter. I'll be 409 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: back after this with the Hollywood ab minute. All right, 410 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: we are back. Thank you very much for sticking around 411 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: with us. Hey, quick shout out to Disco Laney. Laney's 412 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: a long time listener Disgrace Land. She's in our Patreon 413 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: chat and she let us know she had a proud 414 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: mom moment. Let us know that her son, Brandon, congrats Brandon. 415 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: Brandon is starring in their town's production of The Million 416 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Dollar Quartet, and Brandon is playing Johnny Cash. And I 417 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: just think that is Brandon's going to be a real 418 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: cool motherfucker to play Johnny Cash. So congratulations Brandon as 419 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: Johnny Cash. She said to Bob Dylan before we took 420 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: the stage, I say to you, go track some mud 421 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: on the carpet, all right. I mentioned Patreon. Patreon is 422 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: where all Access members come to chop it up with me. 423 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: And get a little more conversation going. In addition to 424 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: that conversation, All Access Disgraceland. All Access members also get 425 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: ad free listening of Disgraceland and and hollywood Land. All right, 426 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: we just added that feature this week. Plus, All Access 427 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: members get one extra exclusive episode of Disgraceland per month. 428 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: Our last one was on David Crosby. Not sure who 429 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: are the one is on this month? I should know. 430 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: I should be able to tell you that, Matt maybe 431 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: chime in here. Yeah. 432 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: The next episode is on Shannon Hoon, the lead singer 433 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 5: for nineties band Blind Melon. 434 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: Okay, more on hollywood Land listen exciting news. All right. 435 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: First of all, for those of you who are like, 436 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: what the fuck is hollywood Land? Who is this guy? 437 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: Sorry he's talking about Disgraceland. I was talking about Hollywoodland. 438 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: For those of you who are new here, hollywood Land 439 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: is the other podcast that I host, which is basically 440 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: just like Disgraceland, but instead of music and true crime, 441 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: it's Hollywood actors, actresses, directors, et cetera, and their true 442 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: crime stories artists like Jack Nicholson, David Lynch, John Waters, 443 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore, Maril Monroe. In eight ton More. This week 444 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: we're talking about Roscoe Fatty Arabuckle in the Crime of 445 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: the Century. And guys, here's the news. We just launched 446 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: our Rap Party bonus episodes in the hollywood Land Feed, 447 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: which is me and my guys. Zeth Lundy, who has 448 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: worked for and with Double Elvis for years as a 449 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: showrunner and a writer, and who wrote most of the 450 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: hollywood Land episodes Rap Party is Zeth hosting and I'm 451 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: in there as his co host, and we're cutting up 452 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: that week's subject. We're getting into our recommendations over there, 453 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: what we're watching, what we're reading, what we're listening to, 454 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: all inspired by that week's hollywood Land episode. Okay. We're 455 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: also also taking your calls and voicemails over in the 456 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: Rap Party as well, so now you have one hundred 457 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: percent more chance of hearing yourself in one of our 458 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: podcasts Rap Party episodes. They're coming out every week every Wednesday. 459 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: There's one available right now, go check it out after this. 460 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: The Rap Party episodes come out on Wednesdays after our 461 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: full Hollywoodland episodes on Monday. If you are not subscribed 462 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: or following, please search Hollywood Land wherever you get your 463 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: podcasts like Subscribe and follow. Here's a clip from our 464 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: most recent Rap Party episode. 465 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 5: This part of the Rap Party is all about recommendations 466 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 5: music and movie recommendations, but they are recommendations inspired by 467 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 5: the actor or actress or director whoever we're covering this 468 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 5: week in our full episode of Hollywood Land, So Fatty 469 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 5: Arbuckle being this week's subject and looking ahead to next 470 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 5: week's subject, John Belushi, We've got big dudes on the brain. 471 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 5: So to that end, Jake, I need some big dude music, Rex, 472 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 5: what do you got? 473 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: John Belushi made me think about Blues Brothers, made me 474 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: think about John Lee Hooker, made me think about this 475 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: song I'm obsessed with by John Lee Hooker called grinder Man, which, yes, 476 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: which to me is the sound of violence, and you 477 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't know so from the lyrics. The lyrics are about 478 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: a baseball player, but it's a double entendre for second, 479 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: and it just sounds so fucking mean. It was recorded 480 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: for the Stacks label, which doesn't make a lot of 481 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: sense for John Lee Hooker, but somehow it all works when. 482 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 5: It comes to movies. I was thinking about big dudes 483 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 5: and movies, Big funny dudes and movies, which is obviously 484 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 5: a long list. John Goodman, who has been in a 485 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 5: billion movies, I know, But my John Goodman recommendation is 486 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 5: this movie called Barton Fink from nineteen ninety one, directed 487 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 5: by Joel and Ethan Cohen, two of the greatest to 488 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 5: ever do it. Barton Fink is really it's unlike any 489 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 5: other movie. It's strange, it's horrifying, it's funny, and if 490 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 5: you're a creative person, if you write, or you paint, 491 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 5: or you make music or whatever, it will hit you 492 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 5: hard because it's about this playwright named Barton Fink played 493 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 5: by John Cicero, who moves from New York to Los 494 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 5: Angeles in nineteen forty one in order to write scripts 495 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 5: for Hollywood. So he's basically taking He's going from this brainy, 496 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 5: aready playwright to being a paid screenwriter in Hollywood to 497 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 5: write schlock. Right, And then there's this sweaty, intense as 498 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: fuck performance by John Goodman, a guy who who isn't 499 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 5: what he says he is. And all I gotta say 500 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 5: is that once you see this, there's this one scene 501 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 5: with him running down this hallway of a hotel, and 502 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 5: it's the whole thing is on fire and he's screaming. 503 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 5: You will never be able to look at Joungleman the 504 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 5: same way twice. 505 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: All right, I've never seen that. I've never seen Barton fink. 506 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Any check this out. It's gonna take your recommendation, all right. Guys, 507 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, make sure you are subscribed to Hollywood 508 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: Land on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. 509 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: Next week we get an episode on the One in 510 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: Only John Belushi, So make sure, like I said, you're 511 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: subscribed following however they term it in whatever podcast app 512 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: you guys use. All right, disgracing pod at gmail dot com. 513 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: You want to send me an email on any subject, 514 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: all right? This email comes from a fellow by the 515 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: name of Ed Trask, subject the Go Gos message. The 516 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: presentation of the Go Gos coming out of a West 517 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: Coast punk rock scene layered in historic drudge and creative 518 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: prowess writing their own songs and landing into pop music 519 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: history was well done. But I love the idea that 520 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: there are plenty of all girl punk rock bands that 521 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: wrote their own songs and in their eyes, succeeded in 522 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: changing and influencing punk and rock bands that I toured 523 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: with or watched and loved. Examples being L seven Bikini Kill, Lunicic, 524 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: Seven Year, Bitch Babes, and Toyland Pussy Riot Bratmobiles Shown 525 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: a Knife, to name a few. These bands obviously never 526 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: had the pop cultural impact and success of the Go Gos, 527 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: but had plenty of stories of grit, will and talent 528 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: which helped them fight to become successful touring bands. The 529 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: question being what actually is success, especially after the Nirvana 530 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: major label feeding frenzy. Were you a successful band because 531 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: you had two records on labels like Discord or Touch 532 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: and Go Or were you a success when you signed 533 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: a major labeled deal? Cheers Ed Trask eighth four Ed, 534 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: the answer to your question is the latter, sorry, the former, 535 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: you were a success. So yeah, if you were a 536 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Discord Records or Touch and Go and you had a 537 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: couple records out and you were out there torn and 538 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: planting people in different cities who were coming to see 539 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: you and paying tickets to see you beyond your immediate 540 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: region of local fans, I say that's a success. I 541 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: say success is can you can you fill a club, 542 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: a reasonable size club and a bunch of different cities 543 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: outside of your own and sustain yourself as a musician. 544 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: That to me is a success. Now, of course that's 545 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: going to change for the musician as they get older 546 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: and as they try to do different things and they 547 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: have different goals all that stuff. Obviously, I don't think 548 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: you're saying that. I was saying that the Go Gos 549 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: were a success because there were a major label band 550 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: and had a number one record, and that's not what 551 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: I was saying. They were, of course the success. They 552 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: were the biggest success with that number one album. That 553 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: was my point number one success of all girl groups 554 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: with that number one album. The bands you mentioned a 555 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: bunch of them I actually had the opportunity to see 556 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: and play with back in the nineties and they were phenomenal. 557 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: I saw L seven L seven actually Bikini Kill, played 558 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: with the Lunachics a couple times. I think I played 559 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: with seven Year Bitch, Saw Babes and Toyland. Never saw 560 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: Pussy Riot or Brat Mobile, Saw Shown a Knife. Just 561 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 1: incredible bands, incredible time and history for females in music 562 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: doing it in the punk world in the underground. It 563 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: was I don't know, I don't know if there'll be 564 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: another time like it hard for me to put my 565 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: finger on what made it so special here on the spot, 566 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: but it's something that I want to delve into. You've 567 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: compelled me, Ed Trask and the A to oh four. 568 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate the email. Guys. If you haven't heard those 569 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: bands Lunachics, Shown a Knife, seven Year, Bitch, Babes, and Toyland, 570 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: et cetera, go check them out. All right, Guys, you 571 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: want to support the show, head over to Apple Podcasts, 572 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: head over to Spotify. Leave a review for the show, 573 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: all right, say something positive. If you're new here and 574 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: you like what you hear, leave a review. Share the 575 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: show with a friend. 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They 582 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: helped the algorithm force it out ed MASA five one 583 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: seven rights the only reason I listen to podcasts five stars. 584 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: What can I say I've been listening to the Disgrace 585 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: Lamp pod since its beginning. I've turned many friends and 586 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: anyone that will listen on to this podcast. The wide 587 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: variety of artists from many different genres is what makes 588 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: this podcast a great listen at any time. Rock A 589 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: rolla ed. Thank you so much, my friend. I appreciate you. 590 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: Chastity Denett over on Spotify rights. Hey, this is in 591 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: relation to the Marilyn Manson episode. Great episode. Saw sober 592 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: Manson perform at Welcome to Rockville last month, and it 593 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: was truly one of the best performances of the entire festival. 594 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: So there you go. Manson is sober. Thanks for the reviews. 595 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: Get in touch. Okay, you guys, something in the mail. 596 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: This episode is nearing its end everybody, But actually it's 597 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: not nearing its end for everybody. For those of you 598 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: who are All Access members, you're gonna get a little 599 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: bit more of the bonus episode here. Gonna be talking 600 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: about we were talking about the most subversive bands from 601 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: the nineties. I'm gonna talk about some of the worst 602 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: bands from the nineties. And again, I don't like to 603 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: be negative, but I'm looking at some past rock journalism 604 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna bring you a list and 605 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna get into it here in the 606 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: exclusive section of this after party Worst Bands from the Nineties. 607 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: You guys, want to become a member, You want to 608 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: get in on this conversation, want to get in on 609 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: the conversation with me on the Patreon chat. You want 610 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: that ad free listening experience, you want an extra episode 611 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: per month, Just go to disgrace lampod dot com slash 612 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: membership five bucks a month. It's all costs. You can 613 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: become a member, you can support the show. We appreciate it. 614 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: Gonna get a ton more content. All right, we are back. 615 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: And if you weren't part of that conversation we just 616 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: had the bonus after party section here of this episode, 617 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: you missed out on some good convo about the worst 618 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: bands of the nineties. And I was thrown a heater 619 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: there I was. I had a lather worked up. I 620 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: was into it real quick. Here, let's just dig into 621 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: a mention. I should say a couple of the artists 622 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: from our archive who were discussed in this episode, who 623 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: we have episodes on, who you guys can go check 624 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: out and if you're interested in any of these subjects, 625 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: just check the show notes. Matt Boden. We'll have the 626 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: show in episode information there for you so you can 627 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: easily find them in our archive. We talked about Sean 628 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: Diddy Combs, got two episodes on Sean Combs and we 629 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: will have more in the future. We talked about James Brown, 630 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: you know. And again the archive is just stuffed with 631 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: so many artists. Willie Nelson, Cardi b the Beatles, We've 632 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: got nine episodes on the Beatles, Nipsey Hustled, the Grateful Dead. 633 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: It's really truly endless, So just dive in, check stuff out, 634 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: Get at me if you have any questions six one, seven, 635 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: nine oh six, six sixty three eight voicemail and text 636 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: at Disgrace lamb pod on the Socials, and I'll get 637 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: back to you with my answers on those episodes. All right, 638 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: let's recap, shall we. Number one? My other podcast, Hollywoodland, 639 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: is alive and kicking over in the Hollywoodland feed, so 640 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: make sure you are subscribed in following Hollywood Land on 641 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts, and 642 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: check out our recent episode on Fatty our Buckle right 643 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: now in your Disgraceland feed. Our episode on Marilyn Manson 644 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: number three coming tomorrow and Saturday. Our rewind episodes on 645 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: The Stones at Altamont and The Stones in Exile next Tuesday. 646 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: Our brand new episode on B York More Nineties Madness 647 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: Byork B York Byorke. Number four merch winners, Get in Touch. 648 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: You know who you are? Number five. Remember no one 649 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll 650 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: more than you do. And well that is a disgrace, 651 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: all right. In honor of this week's subject, Marilyn Manson, 652 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 1: this is me reading you the Billboard charts of number 653 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: one songs for the day Manson's album Anti Christ Superstar 654 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: was released, and forever redefine what subversion means for pop music. 655 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: That was on October eighth, nineteen ninety six. Here you go. 656 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: Number one. Macharna Los del Rio last week one, peak 657 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: position one weeks on chart forty three. Number two, I 658 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 1: Love You Always Forever week Donald Lewis last week peak 659 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: position number two weeks on chart seventeenth week number three, 660 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: It's all coming back to Me Swinging Dion last seven, 661 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 1: peak position number five weeks on Check number four twisted 662 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: positions of cheat sweating last week, pak position for water 663 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: change for weeks on charms seventeen last number five. We're 664 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: going got five fours Last check Peposi changs quit talking 665 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: and start mixing. 666 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: Cut