1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Our two on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Edge 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show, Todd Seaton, Marv Pauli, yours truly backroom guys, 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Ross Tucker will stop buying about twenty minutes, Reggie Miller 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: a little more than an hour from now. Stat of 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: the Day is always brought to you by the great 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: folks at Pinini America, the official trading cards of the 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: program Seaton, which you update the poll results from our 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: one and what are we going with an hour two? Yeah, 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: we got up there right now. Which wins more games? 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Gut or analytics? Right now, gut feeling is running away 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: with that one. That's at about a little over seventy 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: percent of the vote on that one. 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 4: That's a tough poll question too, though, because the analytics 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: are dependent on a lot of different factors, and the 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 4: gut feeling is dependent on whose body that gut is 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 4: in and whether you trust that feeling or not. 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think with the analytics, the analytics can provide 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: that gut feeling. You're going to get data and then 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: you have to decide do we kick the field goal 23 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: or go forward? On fourth and one? But you do 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: have the information that's there. And if it's true that 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: Sean Payton was if you kick the field goal, you're 26 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: going with analytics, then he was going with his gut 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: and going forward on that fourth and one. I just 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: didn't like the play call to begin with, and I 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: would have taken the points with a backup quarterback and 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: with weather possibly playing a role. I don't know what 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: they knew and when they knew it. I'd be curious. 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if Sean Payton's doing an exit interview 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: or if he just did it after the game, But 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: what were you told about the weather? Because I would 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: really want to know that, Hey, we were told at 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: some point in the second half that it was coming. 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: What were you told? What were the conditions going to 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: be like? That's what I would be curious about. Eight 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: seven seven three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: Twitter handle at dp show uh the our two pole 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: question Seaton. 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: One from Paul Which would NFL fans prefer their new 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: head coach the young hot assistant coach? 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 45 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 6: Why do we need to have hot in there? They 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 6: always say the hot candidate? All not hot looking factors 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 6: in Okay? 48 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: Well, then this isn't going to make any sense because 49 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: your suggestion is the more rugged, older established head coach. 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: What is rugged rugged? Good looks? Hello, I'm skidding hello. 51 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 4: The young hot assistant head coach or the older established 52 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: head coach. 53 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I think it depends on the franchise, more of 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: a salt and pepper gray, thank you, thank you, yes, Paul. 55 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 6: So this is like a blind choice. What would a 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 6: fan base want without a name attached. You could have 57 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 6: the hot offensive coordinator. It's got to be to be hot, 58 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 6: like like Matt yes football hot. Okay, okay, So the 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 6: less experienced, have. 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: You ever looked at a coach and man, he's hot? Yeah, 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: of course yeah you have. 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 6: Or I said, like, that's a good looking guy who 63 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 6: takes care of himself more so than hot. 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: I think I don't. I don't need a grooming coach, 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: like I don't need somebody who Matt Lafleur's part in 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: his hair. I mean pat Riley, don't get me wrong. 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: Back with the Lakers, Showtime Lakers. 68 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 6: So you thought the coach was hot. 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: I thought he was handsome. There you go, dashing. 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: They were changing this to a young handsome head coach 71 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: or is it. I don't know how a young, hot 72 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: assistant or a handsome older coach. 73 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 7: So basically there he is. 74 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 6: If a coach is inexperienced, young, and the desired yeah. 75 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Like everybody wants Ben Jonson exactly, okay. 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 6: Or the older coach who's been around a couple stops 77 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 6: so Mike McCarthy, yeah, and has had success, but maybe 78 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 6: not the ultimate success, even though he's one one. 79 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: I think we like what we don't know. I think 80 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: that's why we fall in love with potential, Like that 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: guy right there, you know what he is and what 82 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: he can do, Okay, that guy. Yeah, And we did 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: this with Joe Flacco, Like you'd go like, uh, well, okay, 84 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: but Joe Flacco was a money quarterback, a very good 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: postseason quarterback, but he just didn't fit what we wanted. 86 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: We wanted we want Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and well 87 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: there's only you know, one of each. And then you'd go, yeah, okay, 88 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: well we got that guy. We like what we don't know, yes, Marv. 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 8: And it's also a copycat league after Sean McVay. Oh, 90 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 8: he's part of the McVeigh tree. He's thirty three. All right, 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 8: let's try him. You saw that success, Well that was. 92 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: This Shanahan Tree, wasn't it all of those guys. 93 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 7: But a lot of that afterwards was you know, he's 94 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 7: coach with Sean McVay. 95 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: I know, you know he uh, he delivered the mail 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: Sean McVay. Well we should hire in then, Yes, Paul. 97 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 6: I'm curious if Steelers fans are excited. 98 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: Today, I would say no. 99 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 6: See, I think that's odd because it seems like they 100 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 6: wanted a new head coach for a couple of years. 101 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 6: Now they got what they wanted and their coach stepped 102 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 6: down voluntarily, and now they have a guy who does 103 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 6: have a history of reviving offenses. When he got to Dallas, 104 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 6: their offense was ranked seventeenth. The next three years they 105 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 6: were ranked one in the league, fourth in the league, 106 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: first in the league. 107 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, see, yeah, I think that it's not the 108 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: way that the words were intended. But I think that 109 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: you nail that they wanted a new head coach, not 110 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 4: a guy they tread through a bunch of different teams. 111 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 4: They wanted a new head coach. 112 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, somebody who doesn't have a proven track record 113 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: as a head coach. It's like we hey, Bill Cower 114 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: didn't have that, Mike Tomlin didn't have that, Chuck Noele 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: didn't have that. Okay, but you've been a defensive minded 116 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: team for decades. The problem is in the last eight 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: years you're in the bottom five in offense. This is 118 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: a guy who does well with quarterbacks, does well with offenses, 119 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: and maybe that's what you need. What is what you need? 120 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: But Mike McCarthy will be holding his press conference in 121 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh in a few hours from now. We'll get to 122 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: phone calls coming up. We're actually going to talk to 123 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: an analytics expert coming up in an hour from now. 124 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: Sam Schwarzstein. He works for Thursday Night Football. He's their 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: analytics expert. He's a Stanford guy. So we'll ask him 126 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: about the data that you get and can you get 127 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: data in you know, in the middle of the game. 128 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 2: Can they update that the analytics to factor in weather. 129 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: Now you've already factored in a backup quarterback, but now 130 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: the wind, you know, snow's coming in, how well the 131 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: opposition is playing? And as I've said before, with analytics, 132 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: if we have analytics, shouldn't you have the same analytics 133 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: as us? 134 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 6: Yes, Pauling and this guy, Sam Schwarztein. He was with 135 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 6: the XFL a few years ago and created the dynamic 136 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 6: kickoff that the NFL eventually adopted. 137 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: Hmm, okay, smart guy, so that'll be when he went 138 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: to Stanford, although Ross Tucker went to Princeton, but he 139 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: says that he wasn't really smart. He just got into 140 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: Princeton because he could play football. I'm okay with that. 141 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised he. 142 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: Got into analytics given his history and come runing casinos. 143 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: Sam Schwarztein's, Sam Rothstein's Oh, Sam Rothstein, you've seen Casino? 144 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: Oh? 145 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, I did. 146 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: Robert de Niro, Joe Pesci Sharon Stone is a good movie. 147 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw it done and well for Joe Pesci 148 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: or his brother, I know, God, that was bad. That 149 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: is anod because you know what's gonna happen. You don't 150 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: want it to happened, you know, because you like Peshi. 151 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: Sharon Stone was awesome in that pa was she was unhinged, 152 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: as they like to say, yes. 153 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 6: Point and as an old school baseball fan, I didn't 154 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 6: like that. To use line in the baths, Wow, I 155 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 6: wish I used maple and those guys, That's what I was. 156 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: Saying, yeah. It had that familiar ping yeah like lsu Yeah. 157 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: Dennis in Long Beach, Hi, Dennis, what's on your mind? 158 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 10: Good morning, gentlemen. With the analytics, the Broncos were only 159 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 10: fifty percent during the season on fourth down with bow Nicks. Yeah, 160 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 10: and they ranked twenty second in the NFL. The Patriots 161 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 10: were number two with stopping fourth down plays and on 162 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 10: the road twenty seven percent of the time the opposing 163 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 10: team was successful. In the meantime, their kicker is basically 164 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 10: a point after kick, a point after touchdown. He was 165 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 10: thirty nine and thirty nine. So I don't know about 166 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 10: those analytics, but they seemed like a pretty good chance 167 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 10: to me. And on the pole question, it really comes 168 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 10: down to do you want Matt Let's or Andy Reid. 169 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 2: I'll take the cheeseburger, all right, mag Dennis, Tim and 170 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: Green Bay? 171 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: Hi, Tim, Hey, Dan, First time, longtime, loved the show 172 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: five ten, two tensh First things first, my wife's name 173 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: is Dennette. She's a huge fan. 174 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 11: Of the show. 175 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: Want to I want to give you the cliches Mike 176 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: McCarthy that you don't want to hear as a Pittsburgh 177 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: Steelers fan. The first one is we've got to clean 178 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: up our own house. That was an impersonation, a bad one. 179 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 3: And the second one is, uh, we got to get 180 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: back to the basics. 181 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep an eye on that. Seaton he 182 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: decided we were going to play the Mike McCarthy cliche 183 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: game of the first cliche that he says today at 184 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: his press conference, Let's recap Seaton minus something. 185 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: About a long history of like excellence along history of 186 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: football tradition. 187 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: Edition yea culture. 188 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: No I had culture, Paul claimed culture. I mean they're 189 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: sort of cut from the same cloth, culture and tradition. 190 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 4: Although I think Paul's talking about establishing a new winning 191 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: culture rather than I'm drawing on He's going to point 192 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: to the Steelers history, a great history of football tradition. 193 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: Does he mention that he wants to build upon what 194 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin did for so many years? Here? Does he 195 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: mention Mike Tomlin early? I think he's just talking about it. 196 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: This is a blue collar town and we're gonna be a 197 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: blue collar football team this hard working city. Hey, I 198 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: know I know what these fans are like. I was 199 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: one of those fans growing up just football towns. What 200 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: it is yes, Tom. 201 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 12: I was just going to ask something along those lines, 202 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 12: because the more you say what you're going to do, 203 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 12: you're kind of not crapping on the previous coach, but 204 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 12: you're basically saying, these are the things that previous coach 205 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 12: I wasn't able to do, or couldn't do, or didn't do, 206 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 12: but I'm going to do it. So how sensitive is 207 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 12: a new coach to not using wording that makes it 208 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 12: feel like the previous coach out of respect, you know, 209 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 12: screwed this up, we didn't do these things. 210 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: Let's say I make you Mike McCarthy today and I 211 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: introduce you, and what do you say when you get 212 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: up there, ladies and gentlemen. The next head coach of 213 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, Todd Fritz. 214 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 12: It's great to be here. I'm very honored to be 215 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 12: the new head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I know 216 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 12: your previous coach did a lot of wonderful things here 217 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 12: and I hope to you would take it even to 218 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 12: the next level. That's why I'm here to bring the 219 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 12: seventh and hopefully beyond Super Bowl titles to the great 220 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 12: city of Pittsburgh. 221 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 7: I wouldn't make. 222 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 12: Sure not to say anything that would sound derogatory or 223 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 12: the previous guy couldn't get this done. But here I 224 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 12: am writing, and I'm going to do the things that 225 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 12: Mike Toma couldn't do. I wouldn't want it to sound 226 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 12: like that. 227 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: But you're already saying seventh super Bowl. 228 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, but I think if you could, you could christen 229 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 12: him say in a certain way to unlike Mike Tomlin, 230 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 12: who wouldn't win one playoff game, I'm going to get 231 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 12: the seventh Tomin couldn't do. 232 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: The twes is what I want to hear. Is a 233 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: Steeler fan. 234 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 4: Yes, I wonder if he tries to, like right out 235 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 4: of the gate, draw on his like, you know, I'm 236 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: a local guy. And he gets up there and he's like, so, 237 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: how are Yin's doing? So I'm from here, So I say, 238 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: Yin's too, just like you guys. We're all Yinsers, right, yeah, 239 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 4: they I'm one of us. Maybe brings an Iron City lights, 240 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: put beer up there, Hey, how are Yin's doing? 241 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: And gins and zn zen uh Nate in Florida, Good morning, Nate. 242 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: What's on your mind today? 243 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 11: Hey? 244 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 5: Guys? 245 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 11: Six y three and a solid well not so much 246 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 11: solid five fifty. I just wanted to give a big 247 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 11: praise to my Seahawks for making it back to the 248 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 11: game of games and uh and it looks pretty good 249 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 11: for me. And being a transplant into Florida from Seattle, 250 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 11: I've been taking a little heat down here, but I'm 251 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 11: living through it because I got skin in the game still. 252 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 11: So the big thing that I wanted to bring up 253 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 11: to you guys is that I want to thank the 254 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 11: AFC for making our job at the NFC so much 255 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 11: easier by getting rid of all these great coaches and 256 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 11: have them start over again for no appairent reason other 257 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 11: than they just we need to change. 258 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 9: So if that's what. 259 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 11: They want to do, then you know what, I will 260 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 11: win the next three or four Super Bowls, no. 261 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: Problem, all right, all right, Karma, Karma, come back, Invite 262 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: you there. Super Bowl odds Sam Donald, Drake, May, Jackson 263 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: Smith Nujigma, Kenneth Walker Junior the Third and then Stevenson, 264 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: Shaheed Stefan Diggs in there long shots. But basically you 265 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: have four players best odds to win MVP, led by 266 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: Sam Darnald Drake, May, JSN and then Kenneth Walker Junior 267 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: the third. Vegas really feels strongly about somebody from Seattle 268 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: scoring first in this game because Kenneth Walker and Jackson 269 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: Smith nojigba. They are the two favorites, big favorites, and 270 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: then Stevenson after that. Aj Barner, Hunter Henry and Stefan 271 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: Diggs also on that list. But the line's staying at 272 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: four and a half. I don't think it's going to 273 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: change unless there's any injury update. The over under is 274 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: forty five and a half. I'm almost curious about the 275 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: over underpath. Okay, here can I you know what, I'll 276 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: take a break and I'll come back, and I got 277 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: a couple of questions to ask you before we get 278 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: to Ross Tucker more of your phone calls as well. 279 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: We'll take a break. 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Ton I'll start with you to 300 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: twenty seven and a half. 301 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 9: Did you see this? 302 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: I did not bloop bloop blue? 303 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 7: No way is not the number? 304 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, mister Vegas. 305 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 12: I was gonna say two twenty three and a half 306 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 12: or that I changed to seven because that's my number three. 307 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: Okay, how about Drake may Over underpassing yards Todd to 308 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: twelve and a half, Seaton fifteen, Marvin. 309 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 6: Paul two fifty six and a half to twenty four 310 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 6: and a half two twenty four and. 311 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: Uh, well, by the way I saw this, Congratulations to 312 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: Rutgers athletics. They've apparently and I don't know how you 313 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: do this, but they did it. Since moving to the 314 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: Big Ten, Rutgers Athletics is more than five hundred million 315 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: dollars in debt. How about a round of applause for 316 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: Rutgers athletics. Man, good thing you moved into the Big Ten. 317 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 9: Yeah. 318 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: But have you been to the Rack? 319 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 9: Yes? 320 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I have it. I have been 321 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: to that basketball arena. 322 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, Dan you have to skew positive like a 323 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 6: pr person. Would nobody invest more in their student athletes 324 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 6: than Rutgers? 325 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 9: Yeah? 326 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: This this is criminal, like literally seems criminal that five 327 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: hundred million you join the Big Ten? Yes, Marvin, but 328 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: what about the New York that's you know, we got 329 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: to get that New York market. We need Rutgers right now. 330 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, I thought you were making up those numbers. 331 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: Now, No, it's five hundred and nine million in debt. 332 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 6: Is it supposed to be a benefit to join the 333 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 6: Big ten? 334 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: And I've got the Mike McCarthy cliche, I've got it. 335 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: Today feels like coming home. 336 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay, that's pretty good. 337 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 9: That's pretty good. 338 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: Today feels like coming home today feels like coming home. 339 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: It's bringing Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, Westwood One analyst, host 340 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. You got a Mike 341 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: McCarthy cliche that he utters today. 342 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: No, but I kind of like, Dan, you gotta you 343 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 5: got a decent Pittsburgh accent. 344 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 9: You gotta you got a decent you do it. Mike 345 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 9: McCarthy and Pittsburgh. I've never heard that before. 346 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: Well, he just left football, it's all he does. He 347 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: loved football. We're blue collar team, blue collar town, just 348 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: like we love football. Uh you went to Princeton and 349 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: you tell us all the time. 350 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 9: Uh No, I don't. I don't say that. 351 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: You you got a Princeton zip up three quarters and 352 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: you got your Princeton helmet behind you. 353 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's branding, Dan, it's branding. I was not like 354 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 5: some Hall of Fame player. Pro Bowl players. Are people 355 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 5: gonna remember moves. They're gonna say him, They're gonna say, oh, yeah, 356 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 5: he's the guy that went to prison. 357 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 9: He's a smart guy. Hey, No, branding, it's intentional. 358 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: You might have made the Pro Bowl. Considering that Shadoor 359 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: Sanders gets to make the Pro Bowl, you might they 360 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: might have said we need, we need somebody, how about you, Ross, That's. 361 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 5: Actually a good point. In two thousand and four, I 362 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 5: definitely had a better season Thanders this year. 363 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: Not a quarterback. 364 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 5: No, But back then, back then they would actually like 365 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 5: it was hard to. 366 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 9: Make the Pro Bowl. 367 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 5: I honestly, I talked about this this morning on the 368 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 5: Ross Tucker Football podcast, And forgive my ignorance, I legitimately 369 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 5: don't even know how he was. 370 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 9: The next alternate up like it was. 371 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 5: I'm sure he won the fan vote, like in a landslide, 372 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 5: Like how is it? 373 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 9: Drake May's out? So Shador Sanders is in. 374 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 2: A lot of people had to say no, evidently, But 375 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: I get it if this is a TV show that 376 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: that's what they're doing. I understand you're gonna bring him in. 377 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm okay with it. I don't value the 378 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl designation like I used to. And my suggestion 379 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: is that you have an NFC AFC Pro Bowl roster 380 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: that you announced, whether they can play in it or not, 381 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: you're still the Pro Bowl at that position for that year. 382 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: Anybody else is just a Pro Bowl games participant and 383 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: should be noted and not on your resume that you 384 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: were a Pro Bowl player. 385 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 9: I agree with that one. 386 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 5: That seemed like a fantastic way to go about it, 387 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 5: because there needs to be some distinction between the guys 388 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 5: that actually earned it and the guys that were the 389 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 5: fourth alternate and ended up. But even I honestly don't 390 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 5: even know what it's called the Pro Bowl. They play 391 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 5: like flag football. I really don't even know what they 392 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 5: do anymore. 393 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: They have challenges and tugle war and you know, okay, 394 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: but let's be fair. Let's say you had a chance 395 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: in two thousand and four and they said, hey, we 396 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: would like for you to be an alternate for the 397 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. Would you have done it? 398 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 9: Absolutely? 399 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: If you knew that there were like twenty linemen in 400 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: front of you who declined going to the Pro Bowl. 401 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 5: Yes, you know why because if you looked at my Wikipedia, 402 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 5: it would say Ross Tucker is. 403 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 9: A former Pro Bowl offensive lineman from Why. 404 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 5: Miss defensiveany It's like it's like I won, I can't remember. 405 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 9: Oh, oh, I know what it is. 406 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 5: I do Eagles preseason games, as you know, Dan, and 407 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 5: I've been I've been nominated or we've been nominated for. 408 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 9: Multiple mid Atlantic Emmys. 409 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 5: Right, so you know what I am. I'm an Emmy 410 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 5: nominated broadcast, and that's legit. You can look it up. 411 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 5: There's links and everything. I am an Emmy nominated brog. 412 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 5: I haven't won it yet, but I've been nominated. 413 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 9: Seaton. 414 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: Would you give ross the two poll questions today? 415 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 9: Yeah? 416 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: Right now, We've got up there which wins more games? 417 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: Gut feeling or analytics? And then another one here from Paulie, 418 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: which would NFL fans prefer the new head coach of 419 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: their team, the hot young assistant or the older established coach. 420 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 5: Well, the second one is are you asking my opinion 421 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 5: or what I think people want? 422 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: You know your opinion? 423 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: Ooh, my opinion is probably the older established coach. 424 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 9: I don't know what you know. 425 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 5: I everybody immediately goes to Mike McCarthy, but I'm looking 426 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 5: at more like Stefanski, John Harbaugh, sala Like. I think 427 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 5: what these teams are doing by hiring guys and giving. 428 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 9: Them a second chance or a second I think that's smart. 429 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 5: You know, everybody in life learns from your mistakes and 430 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 5: gets you would think you'd like to think would. 431 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 9: Get better when you get a second opportunity. 432 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 5: You know, I certainly feel like I'm a better broadcaster 433 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 5: than I was, you know, when I was starting out. 434 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 5: So I'll give me the guy with experience, because you're 435 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 5: really rolling the dice with the guy that's never done 436 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 5: it before. In terms of analytics versus gut, I will 437 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 5: lean probability. I will lean to the numbers. I will 438 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 5: lean analytics. But I think. 439 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 9: I don't like how that's phrased. 440 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: So one of my ability probability is Okay, when you 441 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: say analytics, it triggers something in people. 442 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 5: Two thousand percent correct, And that's the thing, Like analytics 443 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 5: is just probability. And I know, uh Stink was on 444 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 5: with you guys yesterday and you have a lot of attention. 445 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 9: He doesn't like nerds and all that stuff. 446 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 5: You know, I know that any player that's ever played, 447 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 5: the defensive coordinators pour overtape to try to identify what. 448 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 9: You're most likely to do in these situations. 449 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: You know, when they're in this personnel grouping, they're seventy 450 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 5: five percent, run to the writer thirty two percent. 451 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 9: What I'm just making it up, Okay. 452 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 5: All that the analytics are trying to do is allow 453 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 5: you to know what the probability is of each decision 454 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 5: you could make. The issue I have Dan let's talk 455 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 5: about the Sean Payton decision, all right, and let's just say, 456 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 5: because that's all where Greg Olsen said, the analytics said 457 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 5: to kick, which surprised me. 458 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 9: By the way fourth and one from the fourteen, that 459 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 9: would surprise me. 460 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: I'd like to talk to Greg about that and see 461 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 5: where he's getting that information. But these are living, breathing games, 462 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 5: Like do the analytics, which you've created before the game, 463 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 5: how much do they take into account that you have 464 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 5: Jared Sidam as your quarterback? How much you take into 465 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 5: account is going to snow in the second half. How 466 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 5: about the fact that if you kick the field goal, 467 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 5: you're going up by two scores. That's why I think 468 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 5: it's really important that these coaches take into account what 469 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 5: the win probability tells them, take into account what the 470 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 5: analytics recommends, but then also use your own judgment. 471 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 9: It should really just be one. 472 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 5: Of the inputs that you're factoring into ultimately making the decision, 473 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 5: because some of the other inputs you should be considering 474 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 5: are not built into the analytical model, which, by the way, 475 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 5: every team has their own. 476 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 9: So when you see these like TV, these games. 477 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 5: Where they're like the analytics say, yeah, the analytics is 478 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 5: not some bible that is like every team's reading from 479 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 5: the same book of analytics. It's every team has their 480 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 5: own model based on their own things that they value 481 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 5: and don't value. 482 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: Ross Tucker, CBS Sports Westwood One broadcaster and host of 483 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He will be the color 484 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: analyst on the Super Bowl for UK radio. 485 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 9: How about that? 486 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: How is your British accent? 487 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 9: Oh? I'm not going to try to do that, but 488 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 9: you know, the play by. 489 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 5: Play guy is the I'd had a guy with the beard, 490 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 5: Will Gavin, who went viral for some of his calls 491 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 5: during the playoffs. 492 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 9: He's played by play. I'm colored. 493 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 5: It's gonna be electric. I have no idea who is 494 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 5: going to be listening to the super Bowl on the 495 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 5: radio in London at two am? No idea if there's anybody, 496 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 5: but I promise you, as guys my witness, that is 497 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 5: gonna be an electric broadcast. Will Gavin and me if 498 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 5: you happen to be listening to your radio and what's 499 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 5: it called abby whatever the abbey thing is called, I 500 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 5: don't even know. Twelve thirty to four, we are gonna 501 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 5: be killing it. 502 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 9: Are you? Is the abbey thing? 503 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: Are you the John Madden of UK radio. 504 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be for the Super Bowl, Okay, I will 505 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 5: I In all sincerity, I'm gonna ask Will this because 506 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 5: I'm interviewing him today for my podcast. 507 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 9: If you're in the UK. 508 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 5: And you're really in the foot well enough that you're 509 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 5: gonna watch the game that you're gonna be part of 510 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 5: the game from twelve thirty to four am local time, 511 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: you're probably watching it, right, You're probably not listening to me, 512 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 5: although maybe they can watch it and mute the TV 513 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 5: and then listen to me. 514 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 9: People do that. That works. 515 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: You never know who's going to be listening. 516 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 9: That's right. 517 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: You never know. There could be somebody who hears you 518 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: and they go, wow, you know what I have that 519 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: guy in mind for. They're the director for Marty Supreme. 520 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: The Timothy shallow May movie was a big fan of 521 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: Howard Stern, and Howard had a couple of his callers 522 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: regular callers that this guy put in the movie with 523 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: Timothy shallow May. And one Mary Anne from Brooklyn is 524 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: in a scene with Timothy shallow May. And it's only 525 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 2: because one of the Saftie brothers said I want her 526 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: in the movie. 527 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 5: You never know that that's incredible, Almost as incredible as 528 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 5: the fact that I'm familiar with who that actor is 529 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 5: and I've seen him like Court sided the Knicks, and 530 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 5: but I don't really watch television and movies like other 531 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 5: than like documentaries or football documentaries. Dan, I swear I 532 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 5: thought his name was Challamet. I had never I had 533 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 5: never heard it pronounced before. 534 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 9: I had no idea it. 535 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 5: Was shallow May, and that challo May sounds so much 536 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 5: better than Challamet. 537 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Timothy May. 538 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 9: Timothy chal May is not from Pittsburgh. 539 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: He's not He's from New York. His dad is French, 540 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: Timothy Challa May. The Rams lost because that done. 541 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 5: Uh, because the kid muffed the punt, I mean, and 542 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 5: and their defense blew it, you know. 543 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 9: I mean, those are the two things that jumped out 544 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 9: to me. That's rough to have a guy that earlier 545 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 9: in the game. 546 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 5: He's a second year kid from Florida, A and m 547 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 5: Xavier Smith. He muffs it, Dan, but they recover it, 548 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 5: So you could have made the decision theoretically to put 549 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 5: Kyen Williams back there. The kid muffs another one, they 550 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 5: get a touchdown, then you put Kyen Williams back there. 551 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 9: That was obviously a huge difference. But I don't know 552 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 9: what happened to the Rams defense. I mean, Clint. 553 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 5: Kubiak, that's a guy that should get a head coaching 554 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 5: job the OC for the Seahawks. He impressed me, and 555 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 5: they lit up the The Rams defense needed to be 556 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 5: better than that. I mean, Stafford played unbelievable and they 557 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 5: still lost. 558 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: The Broncos lost because. 559 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 5: Sean Payton got out coached and Jared's didham did the 560 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 5: only things he can't do. I mean it felt like 561 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 5: to me that and I think Sean Payton's a good coach, 562 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 5: But you got to kick the few there. You gotta 563 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 5: kick the field goal, you gotta go up two scores. 564 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 5: I thought that was and that was not hindsight. I'm 565 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 5: literally eating the press box food in Seattle. Ask Kurt 566 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 5: Owner name drop, stay next to Kurt Owner, hall of Famer, 567 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 5: and we're watching the game, and as soon as it's 568 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 5: fourth and one from the fourteen, Kurt and I are 569 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 5: both like, kick the field goal, go up two scores. 570 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 5: And then Kurt even says he's gonna run the running 571 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 5: back into the flat, which was exactly the play call, 572 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 5: and it was totally covered. So they should kick the 573 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 5: field goal there and then Stidham. I mean, if Stidham 574 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 5: just doesn't fumble that backwards pass or ever calling it, 575 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 5: the Broncos probably win the game. It's a screen pass. 576 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 5: I thought I was Sean Payton. That's a safe play. 577 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 5: Dirt the ball. Broncos probably win that football game. 578 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: What are the Steelers getting with Mike McCarthy. 579 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 5: Tough, tough, hard nose Pittsburgh football coach. He's just a 580 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: guy from Pittsburgh, low football, always has always well. When 581 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 5: I was working a pitt I would headed the overnight 582 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 5: shift on the turnpike collecting tolls. 583 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 9: I actually loved by McCarthy. 584 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 5: I dude, imagine not only getting a chance to coach 585 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 5: three NFL teams, but it's the Packers, the Cowboys and 586 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 5: the Steelers. 587 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: I mean, that. 588 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 5: Will never happen again. That will never be a thing. 589 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 5: It's funny because I have a lot of friends. There's 590 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 5: Steelers fans. They are very upset, and I think the 591 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 5: big thing is they kind of wanted to reset Dan, 592 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 5: but you never know what the owners looking for. McCarthy 593 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: must have sold them on. I can get Aaron to 594 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 5: come back. We can do one more run. At this 595 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 5: thing with Cam Hayward and TJ. Watt and this core 596 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 5: group of guys. And if you've noticed the Steelers, that's 597 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 5: what they like. They like to be in the mix. 598 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 5: They like to win nine or ten games and make 599 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 5: the playoffs. And that must have been what they wanted 600 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 5: to hear. But I mean, he can do it for 601 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 5: six to eight years and be competitive. 602 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 9: It just I think Steelers fans were ready to go 603 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 9: to a new era. 604 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 5: And I don't want to say rebuild, but they were 605 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 5: ready for a young coach and a new young quarterback. 606 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: More impressive the turnaround by Indiana Football or the Patriots 607 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: this year. 608 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 5: It's a really good question. I'll say Indiana football just 609 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 5: because they've been so bad for so long to go 610 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 5: from there to you know, to win the national championship 611 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 5: in two years at the college level and I know 612 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 5: the portals change stuff in NIL or whatever what Rabel's done. 613 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 5: And the Patriots are super impressive because I did a 614 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 5: couple of their games on TV last year. They had 615 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 5: the worst receiving cores in the league, they had the 616 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 5: worst offensive line in the league. But you could tell 617 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 5: Drake May was the goods. You could tell Drake May 618 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 5: was the real deal, and they were very I think 619 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 5: poorly coached. Probably last year coaching was an issue. So 620 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 5: I'll still say Indiana's more impressive than in New England's 621 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 5: had I mean, Dan, think about New England's run to 622 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl here. They probably don't win that game 623 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 5: unless TJ. Stroud loses his mind. They probably don't win 624 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 5: against Denver unless Peyton doesn't kick the field goal in 625 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 5: Stidham makes those decisions. 626 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 9: It's funny because I just. 627 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 5: Record the even Money betting podcast and my co said 628 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 5: they are limping to the super Bowl. 629 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 9: That might be a little bit of a stretch. 630 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'd go that far, but needless 631 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 5: to say, the handicappers are not very impressed by how 632 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 5: the Patriots are playing going to the super Bowl, which 633 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 5: is why the Seahawks are favored by as much. 634 00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 9: As they are. 635 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: Tucker the Voice of English Football, Our Football. 636 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 9: I like that. 637 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 5: I gotta add that to the Wikipedia, the Voice, the 638 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 5: super Bowl Voice, Yes of English Football. 639 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see you next week in San Francisco. 640 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 9: Yes, six am. 641 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 5: Fritzie's only texted me seven times about it so far, 642 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 5: seven times. 643 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: Todd. 644 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 5: I'm there's a pretty good chance at six ten am 645 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 5: San Francisco time. 646 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 9: Oh, Todd, I overslept. I can't make it. 647 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 5: I really just wanted like he's gonna have a nervous breakdown. 648 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 9: It's unbelievable. 649 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: If he was gonna have a nervous breakdown, he would 650 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 2: have already had it. Just Sam, we'll see you next week. 651 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 9: See you guys. 652 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: That's Ross Tucker, Ross Tucker Football Podcast, and he'll be 653 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: on the call super Bowl analyst Talk Sport UK Radio. Yeah. 654 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 4: Have you seen the guy that does the the UK 655 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 4: calls the football announcer. 656 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: His name is like Will. 657 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was talking about Yeah Will Gavin. Have you 658 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 4: seen his calls? No, he's spectacular. Oh, dude, is unbelievable. Well, 659 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 4: Ross will be a great foil for him. Ross will 660 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 4: have fun too. 661 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: He's great. He's really really all right. Let's take a break. 662 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. We'll talk analytics at the 663 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: top of the hour. That'll keep you. We're going to 664 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 2: talk to smart people at the top of the hour 665 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: about football analytics. Reggie Miller will stop by as well. 666 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: We're back after this. 667 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 668 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 669 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 670 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: listen Live Dustin in Alabama, High Dustin. 671 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 15: Morning, Fellas fantastic show yesterday. Just two quick things. One, 672 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 15: I think it was a small missed opportunity for a 673 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 15: best of this past weekend. What a fantastic name. And 674 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 15: showing about Blades Brown, eighteen year old golfer playing the 675 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 15: final round with Scotty yesterday, I mean Sunday. And then 676 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 15: regarding analytics, just from my experience and now becoming an 677 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 15: avid listener of the DP takes a Gamble show. Just 678 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 15: do the opposite of whatever Dylan says and you'll be 679 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 15: a winner. 680 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: You're right, Dylan is a terrible gambler, but he's very 681 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: entertaining at being terrible. Dan Patrick takes a Gamble podcast. 682 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: Let's see Tom in California. Hi Tom, Good morning, Dan Danette. 683 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for calling me back. 684 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 5: YEP. 685 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 16: The first time I called you a few years ago, 686 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 16: I said I was in desperate need of losing one 687 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 16: hundred pounds. On my recent seventy third birthday, I clocked 688 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 16: in at one hundred and one pounds lost. 689 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: Now about a round of applause for Tom. Yeah, Tom, 690 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: how'd you do it? 691 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 16: Plethora of content. I'll try to make this quick. Mike 692 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 16: McCarthy cliche, Rich tradition. 693 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, thank you, thank you, Tom, Rich tradition. I'm 694 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: coming home. That's Mike McCarthy. Whatever one comes first is 695 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: your winner. In the Mike McCarthy. I didn't know we 696 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: were gonna play the Mike McCarthy cliche game until I 697 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: got in and Seaton goes, let's play the Mike McCarthy 698 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: cliche game. I said, tell me what it is? He said, 699 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: the first cliche that he says at the press conference, 700 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: who's gonna guess it? 701 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 4: I feel like Rich tradition is sort of in line 702 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 4: with my thinking it is. 703 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Marvin. 704 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 8: I think he mentions one of two names, Jack Lambert 705 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 8: or me Joe Green about his growing up. He's about 706 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 8: what's in his mid sixties, So he's. 707 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 2: A kid for Terry Bradshaw. 708 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 7: But he seems like a lunch pale guy. 709 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: Hmmm, well so is Terry Maybe Chuck Nole? Maybe Chuck Nole? 710 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: The Rich tradition of great coaches here Jay and Indianapolis. Hi, Jay, 711 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 2: Hey Dan. 712 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 17: Thanks for taking my call. Six flip one ninety. I 713 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 17: think the very first cliche is going to be. If 714 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 17: you're writing the story of the NFL, you can't do 715 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 17: it without starting it with the Pittsburgh Steelers. 716 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 2: Wow, okayay, thank you, Jay, Josh and Tennessee, Hey Josh. 717 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: Hey Dan? 718 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 10: A little off topic, A little off topic here. 719 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 11: I noticed you got pinball movie. 720 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 2: I got what? 721 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 10: Oh machine? 722 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 11: So you're right are your right shoulder? 723 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 5: Oh? 724 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? I got pinball machines? 725 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 5: Yes? 726 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 11: Which ones that you got? And you guys flip on them? 727 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 10: And who holds the high score out of the crew. 728 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if we played it. I just like 729 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: the lights. I have a Dale Earnhard Junior one. I 730 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: have an NBA one, and then I have actually this 731 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: old school baseball one that I have is pretty neat, 732 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 2: but uh yeah. I also have a Frank Thomas pinball machine. 733 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: I don't know why I have it at home. I 734 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: don't even know why I have Frank Thomas. I mean, 735 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 2: who knew I could all of a sudden look up 736 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 2: and say to my kids, see the guy there selling 737 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 2: that thing to help your testosterone. That's yeah, that's him. 738 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 2: That's the guy on the pinball machine. You'll kill too. 739 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 6: They call him the Big hurt, she'll too. 740 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 2: That line is so creepy. 741 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 7: Like, how do you know my life's going on? 742 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 5: Yeah? 743 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 2: Exactly. The worst one is when they're at the driving 744 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: range and there's the guy there with his girlfriend, but 745 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 2: then there's another girl with him and his girlfriend and 746 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: Frank says, and she'll like it too, And then they 747 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 2: both look at him like, all right, guy's doing some damage. 748 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: Do you know that, Frank? None of your business? 749 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 16: Frank? 750 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 2: What do you know? How do you know she likes? Hey, Frank, babe. 751 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 7: Please don't steal my girl? 752 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:08,919 Speaker 9: Big hurt? 753 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 2: Something you need to tell me here? Do you know, Frank? 754 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 2: Just big hurt my feelings? Did you tend to spend 755 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: time in Chicago? Yeah? Were you a white sock hunt? 756 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 2: You have a white sox hat? 757 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 9: Why is that? 758 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: Then she will like it too? You put your bat away, Frank, 759 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: whoa ba and clean up? 760 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 4: Ye, we're in a gym here lifting weights. Why do 761 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 4: you have a baseball bat with you? 762 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 7: Frank? 763 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: And you put that away? 764 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 7: Please? 765 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 2: Thank you? I'm sorry. I thought you meant she'll like 766 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: it too, if you know what I mean. Hey, it's 767 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 2: Frank Thomas and Doug Flutie. 768 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 7: Why wouldn't they be hanging out together. 769 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: Of course, at a driving range, and telling you that 770 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: your girlfriend will like it too. We're talking an analytics 771 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: coming up, Football Analytics and Reggie Miller busy final hour 772 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 2: in this Tuesday