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Speaker 2: I mean, if something big enough came across the board,

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Speaker 2: would you trade Austin reeves? Or are you keeping them?

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Speaker 2: If you're at Lakers management.

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Speaker 3: If you don't have twenty three on your jersey, you

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Speaker 3: on the trading block. All y'all can go? Yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 3: y'all eighty All y'all, All y'all can go.

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Speaker 1: Only number twenty three is safe.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: If your name ain't the Kinge, you ain't good, You

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Speaker 4: ain't safe, You ain't safe.

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Speaker 1: Unplugged Jack, We're back our weekly catch up. What's going

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Speaker 1: on with you?

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Speaker 3: Colon bro? Just trying to shake off that bullshit ass lost?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you was on suicide Watch some cowboys?

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Speaker 2: How about them boys? I sent you every name on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: I saw it was a tough one for you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Man. Say, what people don't understand is people don't know you.

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Speaker 3: They I knew the ship was coming. That's why I

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Speaker 3: ignored your ass, and I was gonna continue to ignore

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Speaker 3: your ass to this ship until you text me something

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Speaker 3: that makes sense. As soon as you text me something

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Speaker 3: that makes sense, I son him my heart back.

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Speaker 2: Means I mean, I guess, I mean, I guess you

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Speaker 2: could just laugh it off at this point because you

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Speaker 2: guys are accustomed to, you know, being a solid regular

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Speaker 3: Yeah. That's I mean, that's basically it ain't You can't

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Speaker 3: deny that. I mean, I've grown to, you know me,

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Speaker 3: especially with me being the champion. Everybody ain't champion. Dak

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Speaker 3: is a regular season guy, and I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 3: come to grips with Dak is not a champion, doll.

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Speaker 3: He can't play in those big games. And I can

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Speaker 3: give you an example, Kyle Carver's first three quarters. You

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Speaker 3: with three seconds left. That ship is a brick. So

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Speaker 2: Well, man, Mike McCarthy's old team, the Green Bay Packers,

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Speaker 2: First playoff start comes in there, they have you guys

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Speaker 2: down twenty seven in the first half. In your opinion, Jack,

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Speaker 2: do they pursue Belichick?

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Speaker 3: No, that'd be it'll make it worse. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: See, I kind of thought. I'd say this was all

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Speaker 2: I remember when you know, Phil left for a while

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Speaker 2: if he still wants to coach, but I would let

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Speaker 2: that be. You know, I think that this younger wave

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Speaker 3: We don't want we don't We don't want him over there, man,

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Speaker 3: we don't want him over there. We need to get

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Speaker 3: rid of Dak and McCarthy and I wish, I wish

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Speaker 3: we could trade Jerry Jones, motherfucking ass, because he really

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Speaker 3: the one got the organization cursed. You know what I'm saying, Boys,

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Speaker 3: real live curse Dog. And then again, like I said,

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Speaker 3: As an athlete, you can you can tell the demean

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Speaker 1: Mmmm, that was tough. They said.

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Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers had more wins on the Cowboy

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, man all right.

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Speaker 2: Comedian Sam Morrell says something like that might not be

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Speaker 2: this upset since they passed the Civil Rights Act.

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Speaker 1: I mean the jokes, shit, I mean shit, that's the truth.

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Speaker 3: He got his cursed.

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Speaker 2: Our man, Gilly said, Dak Prescott ain't ship but a

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Speaker 2: modern day Romo.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 2: If you had to win one game, uh, and you

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Speaker 3: I'm really picking neither one of them. I go with

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Speaker 3: right long, y'alls, I go, I go Adam sound, I

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Speaker 3: I picked ton of Romo because Dan's caught that. He

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Speaker 1: I'll take Willy Beaman for three hundred please.

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Speaker 2: Moving on, Lakers this point last year have the same

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Speaker 1: They feel like the world is gonna end.

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Speaker 2: Darthingham said he hates that everyone lives and dies with

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what it is now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's hope, but you know, it's

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Speaker 3: they blame they kill the team. They kill the team.

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Speaker 3: They don't put no responsibility any other team, where is

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Speaker 3: the best player? They throwing all the responsibility on the

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Speaker 3: They got to do just some amazing shit for they

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Speaker 3: supporting cast is trash. They playing like trash. A d

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to say about him. I don't

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Speaker 2: I think to have the same records that they had

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Speaker 2: I think the playoffs, where you get a day or

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Speaker 2: I think it's too early just to really kill this

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Speaker 1: But again, I don't ever.

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Speaker 2: Count Lebron all the way out, especially this early, uh

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Speaker 2: A lot of big names on the market stack i'mnn

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Speaker 2: name a few off Zach Levine, who I think could

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Speaker 2: We'll see if they let him go. Obviously, tomorrow, De

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Speaker 2: Rozan's on the market. Pascal Siakam Derozane has.

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Speaker 1: Been licked to the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: Jack any names on there really intrigue you and really

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Speaker 3: Well, let me say this first. When I was saying

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Speaker 3: he's definitely not that I've been saying that. I told

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Speaker 3: He could do all the dirty work. He's another guy

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Speaker 3: They could use him. But I told y'all he was

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Speaker 3: think I think that move would be great. That's Zach

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Speaker 3: Levin going anywhere would be great because he's a great score.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's Golden State or even Indiana. I like Indiana

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Speaker 2: I think a bigger guy that could is versatile, that

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Speaker 2: But it's going to be interesting to see, you know.

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Speaker 2: The trade deadline is always like reality TV man when

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Speaker 2: It seems like the Lakers are really reluctant to trade him.

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Speaker 3: If you don't have twenty three on your jersey, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Only number twenty three is safe.

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Speaker 3: Man, If your name ain't the Kinge, you ain't good.

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Speaker 2: You ain't safe, You ain't safe. Yeah, they're good, they

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Speaker 2: just ain't safe. Another thing, actually shout out Mellow and Meyroll.

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Speaker 3: Dope.

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Speaker 2: I've caught a little bit of it, but Mellow has

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, both number fifteens get retired

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they both deserve it. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 3: It ain't no question, it ain't no knock the mellow.

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Speaker 3: That's just what it is. We both got high respectful metal.

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Speaker 3: no question about it. But when you would he's put

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Speaker 2: I think when when when when stars exit places, because

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Speaker 3: Is it is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it dirty business leaving? Is it shady business leaving?

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Speaker 2: So you know, you never really know how what kind

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Speaker 2: Denver was a problem every single time.

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Speaker 3: Nobody went watching dem before he got there.

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Speaker 1: No hell, no mellow.

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Speaker 2: And then they picked up Chauncey and Kmart and all

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Speaker 3: That was the team.

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Speaker 3: Smith, Joini whack Ass was over there.

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Speaker 2: No, but number fift team with with with with the

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously Yok's track record speaks for herself. So

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Speaker 1: And and their management.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with check.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen points a game, seven rebounds, two and a half blocks,

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Speaker 1: What do you think about check?

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Speaker 3: I'm high on chip Man. I got a chance to

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Speaker 3: chance to spend some time with him and his Popsman.

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Speaker 3: I realized how much he loved the game of basketball

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Speaker 3: right like he has that passion we had of the

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Speaker 3: He was that kid. You know what I'm saying. He's

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Speaker 3: to be a pro, and he doing that. I'm proud

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Speaker 3: of him, man, I'm glad. I told him a divers games,

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Speaker 3: just get stronger, you have everything in your game, and

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Speaker 3: he's showing them. And to shout out to Sam Presty

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Speaker 3: who was the management over there. And okay, see Sam

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Speaker 3: Presty was in San Antonio when me when I was there.

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Speaker 3: He's a smart guy, Ben, a smart guy raised under

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Speaker 3: that championship mentality in San Antonio. So you know what

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Speaker 3: taking their time in building this team because they're gonna

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Speaker 2: Mm hm, and they got a lot of young pieces too.

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Speaker 2: Is Check in the top five centers in the league? Conversation?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you think mb Do you think Jokic Bonus

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Speaker 2: out in sack Bam in Miami? I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Bear Sengoon, who I really like out in Houston, porzingis

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Speaker 2: you have Check in that mix? Although it's only season one,

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Speaker 2: I definitely think he's in the conversation for sure?

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Speaker 3: What centerwa because he's he's young and he's still his

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Speaker 3: body is still developed. On I'm gonna put him number

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Speaker 3: four behind Embiid, I mean behind Jolkic, Embiid and uh

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Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be interesting, Like I said,

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Speaker 2: just only you know, first year in a world of talent,

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Speaker 2: a versatile player. Really excited to see kind of him

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Speaker 2: and Wimby's development and and and kind of changing the

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Speaker 2: plus guys doing what they do again sg A thirty

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Speaker 2: one six six and two and a half steals. Uh,

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Speaker 2: definitely should be in the in the m VP conversation.

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Speaker 2: His team is number one at the West. You know,

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Speaker 2: you think about what Tatum and Boston are doing, number

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Speaker 2: one in the East, embiid Jokic. You know Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 2: Luca is always putting in work.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know is where do you have s g A

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Speaker 2: when you when you think MVP thus far of this deseason.

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Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta put him. I gotta put him

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Speaker 3: number one on my list right now. I mean for

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Speaker 3: what he's doing for OKC. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And I got I got one A one B. You

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Speaker 3: know him and Anthony Edwards, I got them one A

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Speaker 3: one bad young boys are coming through. Yeah, considering what

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Speaker 3: their teams are right now, you know that they're tied

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Speaker 3: I mean, god damn, how much how much you want

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Speaker 3: doing everything on the court for this team, and just

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Speaker 3: a constant growth from this kid, the confidence. You know,

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Speaker 3: recently just hit a game winner. You know, he's doing

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Speaker 3: everything he needs to do to be a leader, to

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Speaker 3: m v P. And I'm proud of him. I'm a

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Speaker 3: big fan of SJA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love SGA.

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Speaker 2: You remember, if if people remember back, the one thing

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Speaker 2: Doc Rivers didn't want to trade s g A. He

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Speaker 3: Yeah right.

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Speaker 1: Recently, Steven A.

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Speaker 2: Smith went on a forty minute rant with fellow media

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Speaker 2: him a fat piece of ship, brought out a lot

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Speaker 2: that feel the same. I remember our brother Ai had

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Speaker 3: Jack. Uh. Yeah, he broughted me wrong every every chance

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Speaker 3: what he does, right, He builds up the hate, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm sayingstead of just being just being speaking

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Speaker 3: He's a very intelligent dude, but he used his intelligence

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I agree, very intelligent dude, very intelligent dude.

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Speaker 1: So it's just weird.

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Speaker 2: His energy is weird, but he's he's found a fan

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four. Man, people are not holding their tongue.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to stephen A. Smith during that shit

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Speaker 2: People are not going no more. You know, if you

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Speaker 2: do someone wrong taking the high road. I guess you know,

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Speaker 2: will met Michelle Obama say when they go low, we

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Speaker 3: I'm glad this happened because this shows the difference between

435
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Speaker 3: Hayden and disagreeing. Stephen A. Disagreeing is disagree with him

436
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 3: for how he out or something would he be doing.

437
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 3: He just be hating on people, you know what I'm saying.

438
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 3: And the world don't understand the difference between somebody disagreeing.

439
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 3: We're not gonna agree, We're gonna we're gonna have different

440
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 3: opinions on things. But what he doing, you know what

441
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Steve, and they got everything going on why

442
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 3: he has no reason to hate on Willock, but he

443
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 3: disagreed with the way he handles certain things with Lock.

444
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 3: He just straight up hate.

445
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Speaker 2: Well luck as a hater, and we should we disagree

446
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 2: with steven A all the time, but that's still that's

447
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 2: someone I fuck with, Like steven A is my guy,

448
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: and I definitely don't know always agree with him, but

449
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 2: at the same time, that remains that mutual line of respect.

450
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens with that situation. Most Deaf

451
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 2: recently said that Drake is not a hip hop artist.

452
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: He relates to his music to shopping and Target. He said,

453
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Speaker 2: Drake has popped to me, stack is that of this?

454
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Speaker 2: Is that?

455
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Speaker 1: Obviously it's his opinion.

456
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Speaker 2: I've always been a fan of Most Deaf, but I'm

457
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Speaker 2: also a fan of Drake and respect his body of

458
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 2: work and and and the numbers really don't lie when

459
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 2: you heard that, would.

460
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Speaker 1: You think.

461
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Speaker 3: Y'all seen bez. I'm a big fan of Most Death.

462
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 3: I rock with him tough, you know, I follow on Instagram.

463
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 3: I follow Drake too, And for me being such a

464
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Speaker 3: big fan of both of them, I think that's a

465
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 3: compliment because Drake does make music for everybody, and how

466
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 3: many people can say they can do that. So to

467
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Speaker 3: put Drake in his own category will say he's pop.

468
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't put him in pop. I say Drake can

469
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 3: make any type of music that anybody else has ever

470
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: made and make shit that come up with some new shit.

471
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: Everybody can't do that, and I think that's what separates Drake. Yeah,

472
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Speaker 3: might some of his songs do sound like you're shopping,

473
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Speaker 3: but then he might make a song too to do

474
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 3: it to make you feel like you want to do

475
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Speaker 3: a drive by. Then he might make a song to

476
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Speaker 3: make you want to sing to your girl. Then he

477
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: might make a song to make you want to go

478
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: get some money. Anybody make a song you want to

479
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: do something. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Drake. Drake

480
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 3: can make all kinds of music. So you can't put

481
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 3: Drake and in a no box. So I think it's

482
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Speaker 3: a compliment. Drake can make any type of music.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think some people might take it

484
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 2: at a disc. But at the same time, not everybody.

485
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Speaker 2: Could be played in Target, you know, in any shopping malls.

486
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: And the fact that you could be played in Target,

487
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 2: you can be played in the street, you can be

488
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 2: played in the club, you can be played literally on vacation,

489
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: you can be played anywhere.

490
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Speaker 1: I think speaks to his versatility.

491
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: But who knows if it was a shot at him

492
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: or just kind of what it is. Our next episode

493
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Speaker 2: coming up on All the Smoke is the legendary Mike

494
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: Will made it Thursday DraftKings All the Smoke YouTube.

495
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Speaker 1: Make sure you check it out.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

497
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,239
Speaker 2: He said he's gonna have a little jingle for us

498
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: for an intro, so we got to make sure we

499
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Speaker 2: check in on him about that.

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Speaker 3: Man. A lot of people said they had a lot

501
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: of shit for us after the show after I had

502
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Speaker 3: to say that hard ass sentence at the end of

503
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 3: every show, and they didn't understand how hard it was

504
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 3: getting this shit out after blunts and doing all the

505
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 3: shit I did before I had to say that they

506
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: and they kept the end of the deal. So all

507
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: you motherfuckers who watching this right now, if you was

508
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 3: on our show and you said and you heard me

509
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,239
Speaker 3: ask the hard ass questions that I probably fucked up

510
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: while you was there, come on, man, do your part.

511
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Speaker 3: Pay your does Tom? I appreciate you.

512
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Speaker 1: Stay locked.

513
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 2: Jack and I had it to New York next week,

514
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 2: cod and shit out there, but we hopefully sit down

515
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: and have some great interviews.

516
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Speaker 3: Jack.

517
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Speaker 2: Our brother ice Cube has something done amazing a couple

518
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Speaker 2: of days ago. Want to give him his flowers?

519
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Ice Cube man doing something great

520
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: with the Big Three. He's definitely a pioneer in the

521
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 3: basketball space of what he's doing, and I think all

522
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: he needs is more support. I think the fact that

523
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Speaker 3: now that he's in the Hall of Fame and honor

524
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: for what he's been doing and his menitarian work and

525
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: what he's doing for basketball, I think other people have

526
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: come in now and stop blackballing.

527
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Speaker 1: Do you think they did that.

528
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: To the blow?

529
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, soften the blow because he's you know, him and

530
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: his team have been saying, you know, the NBA has

531
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: actively blocked opportunities for the growth of the league and

532
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: money to come to the league.

533
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: Is this the NBA's way of trying to shut him.

534
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Speaker 5: Up beastized the Hall of Fame especially. I mean, he's

535
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 5: he's doing it for the right reasons too. It's not

536
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 5: ain't no gimmick to it. He just wanted to give

537
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 5: dudes an opportunity. So, I mean, I definitely feel like

538
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 5: the NBA should open up their ecosystem to Cube and

539
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 5: allowed that league to grow. So congratulations again, Cube and

540
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 5: will last, but not least, our man Dwayne Wade got

541
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Speaker 5: the news he will have his own statue in Miami

542
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 5: top three two guards of all time. He's number three

543
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 5: for me, behind MJ and Cobe Jersey, retired multiple time champion.

544
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Speaker 2: Just an all around good dude. Congrats to our brother

545
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: d Definitely deserved.

546
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 3: Nobody else deserves to statue more than him. He is

547
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 3: Day County is Miami. I mean, make all the sense

548
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 3: in the world. Absolutely, Hey, shout out Dion Sanders too, man,

549
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: hold on, shout out Dion Sanders Man. But Prime, you

550
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: always showing this love. You know, we family, uh y yea.

551
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: I ain't see us in no games, but you know

552
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: we talked to d I talked to Dion before every

553
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: game in the morning. You know what I'm saying. That's

554
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 3: our guy. He's shunning some love recently on his Instagram.

555
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 3: So we send the same love back, Prime and we

556
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: will see you you soon. Yeah.

557
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: Definitely loved Dean.

558
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: You know that was a weird situation, Jack, And obviously

559
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 2: we didn't have this show when all that was going on.

560
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: But I felt like it was too much at times,

561
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: and I didn't want to be a part of too much,

562
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We have such a personal

563
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: relationship with him that I felt like, you know, you

564
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 2: get lost in the mix one and it kind of

565
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: became I wonder when we sit down and talked to

566
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: I want to wander and ask him if all that shit,

567
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 2: although it was dope and new, we hadn't seen it,

568
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: did it ever become a distraction because every single game

569
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: there was so many people there and obviously you know

570
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: how locked in we tried to be. When you have

571
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: to be locked in to be even in college, you know,

572
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: definitely for professional but you got to be locked in.

573
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: So I wonder, you know, did all that fan fare

574
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: and and and all the love. You know, there was

575
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 2: a ton of hate too, But I just think there

576
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: was a lot of shit going on, So I personally

577
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: didn't just I really didn't want to add to it.

578
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: But we definitely would catch up with Prime soon.

579
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: One thing about it, he know too, bro, He he

580
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: know the real love and the people that was coming

581
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: for for it to be beneficial for them. For he's

582
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 3: seen the difference. But yeah, he's seen the difference. But

583
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: one thing about it, he was locked in on the

584
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: goal getting them kids better, you know what I'm saying.

585
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: One thing he used to he lose to the cameras

586
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: and lights. That ain't nothing new to him Now.

587
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm excited for him. I'm excited for a full off

588
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: season for him. Hopefully you can continue to get some

589
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: big recruits and you know, help these kids out. So man,

590
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: that's a right for unplugged this week. Follow us at

591
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: ATSP on all platforms, and we'll catch y'all next week.

592
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Speaker 3: See y'all next week. Matter fact is