1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Live from Chicago at Sunday Night, and the Saint Louis 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: Cardinals just got flat out embarrassed on national television. They 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: were steamrolled by the Chicago Cubs eleven to nothing on 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: ESPN Sunday Night Baseball here at Wrigley Fields. And usually 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: on this show, I tend to try to bring a 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: calm overall approach. 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: Bernie. Maybe you're a little bit more wild up. 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if we're going to have like a rehearsal 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: today because what we saw in Chicago to end the 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: series this way, to drop the finale, I mean, it 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: was just flat out embarrassing. It was a bad loss 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: for the Saint Louis Cardinals. Welcome back to Cardinal Territory, Katie. 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Bernie here with you, wrapping up a rather disappointing home 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: road trip. Excuse me, that started out with so much 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: promise and now here we are seeing the Cardinals really 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: stumble through the first week of July. Bernie, your takeaways 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: from the series, especially tonight. 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: It was a non competitive game from the jump. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: I was really disappointed in that because listen, they had 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: no chance to win Friday after Miles Michaeliss gave up 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: eighteen home runs or whatever it was. But their offense 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: didn't do anything in that game either. And then Saturday 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: an inspirational win, I mean, a great, great comeback win, fantastic, 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: and you thought that maybe that would they'd ride a 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: wave into tonight. And I tell you what, they took 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: some really good at bats against Matthew Boyd early, so 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: they had an opportunity to score runs and keep some 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: pressure or put some pressure on the. 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: Cubs, but they didn't do it. 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: I mean, the offense once again just just completely just 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: completely what's the word, I don't want to use an 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: impolite word, but you know, just completely failing with runners 33 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: in scoring position. 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: And so whatever. 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: Chance they had to win that game, the offense was 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: going to have to come through because frankly, you know, 37 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: going into the series, Katie I had very little faith 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: that they would win either start made by Michaels Fetti, 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: I really did, so this had to be you know, 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: they had to hope to get Fetti like a couple 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: of you know, three or four decent innings and then 42 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: get out of there. But maybe maybe it's a two 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: two three two game at that time, but it never happened. 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: He was bad again. He looked like he had no 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: confidence and then the michaelst thing was just an embarrassment 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: to everybody. 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, very very disappointing weekend. 48 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: But primarily because they were a no show tonight after 49 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: what they did yesterday. And I you know, for all 50 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: this talk, and I think you alluded to this. And 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to monopolize the time here, but I think 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: you alluded to this in your game story off of 53 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 3: the blowout Friday. You know, listen, these guys all talk 54 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: about Ali talks about it. You know, it's a tough schedule. 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: Our guys are tired, we're tired. All we're going to 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: get to Chicago. We're gonna have a day off, you know, 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 3: and we'll be recharged and all this stuff. 58 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: No, they weren't. 59 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: They were flat. They were flat Friday, they were flat tonight. 60 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: So I don't get it. I don't know what's up. 61 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: But it's not a good look. It's pretty much anywhere 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 3: you want to go on the ball club, it's not 63 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: a good look right now. 64 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And this will be a two part episode. 65 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the rotation, particularly Eric Fetti the first half, 66 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about the offense or lack thereof in 67 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: the second half. But I'm with you, Bernie Friday, that 68 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: just sucked. That was a shitty game. Got to see 69 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: the mystery though. I've never seen aiight homer in the 70 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: game before. Never happened for the Cubs and never happened 71 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals in terms of surrending that many home runs. 72 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: But I love Saturday's game. 73 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: It was a grind Lebby didn't have it and for 74 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: the team to come through there and keep battling in 75 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: a big swing from Poso, I totally agree. The series 76 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: feels much more disappointing because after such a fun win 77 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: and an inspiring win on Saturday, they were completely out 78 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: of it. And yes they just Matthew boys did all 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: start right. We know that, so congratulations to him and 80 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan. But yeah, they had competitive evats. It doesn't 81 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: matter when your starting pitcher can only record four outs 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: and just doesn't have it again from the very start 83 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: of this game. That's three in a row. We'll get 84 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: to Eric Fetti, trust me, and what the Cardinals are 85 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: going to do with that. But I thought this was 86 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: just so disappointing because you want to see a team 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: take advantage of that momentum. 88 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: You know, these games matter. 89 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: You know, how you play in July is when it dictate, honestly, 90 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: the rest of your season trajectory, whether you buy or 91 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: sell at the trade deadline. And it was it felt 92 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: to me like the worst loss I've seen them play 93 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: this year. It was super, super disappointing to go out 94 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: there and just get smoked by your rivals. 95 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: I was with you, too, Bernie. 96 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: I didn't feel super confident about either Miles or Fetti 97 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: taking the start, just based on where they had been 98 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: over their past few starts. 99 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: And it makes me. 100 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: Wonder if there was a way to restructure if guys 101 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: when guys were pitching, I know, I got a lot 102 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: of comments about, you know, why isn't setting great facing 103 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: the Cups. 104 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: That's fair. I get it. 105 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: You want your ace on your best team. It's also 106 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: important to remember that some pitchers are creatures of routine. 107 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Sunny Gray's routine is super important, and if you take 108 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: him off that schedule, you might not get the same 109 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Sunny Gray that you would have. Changing a schedule is 110 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: a two way street, so it can't just be the 111 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals making that decision. The picture has to be opened 112 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: to it as well, I'm not saying he is or isn't. 113 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: That's just my understanding that the situation is sunny likes 114 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: a routine. 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Michael McGreevey is eligible. 176 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: As we werecalled off from Memphis on July tenth, it 177 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: would be very easy to swap the two. It is 178 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: in my opinion that they should be doing this, even 179 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: if it's not a permanent change. Eric Fetty is lost 180 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: right now. He made that very queer in his post game. 181 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: I want to commend him for going out and vote 182 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: him and Miles. I know Cardinals fans don't really care 183 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: about this. I get it, but I think they both 184 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: felt a responsibility to stick up there and talk to 185 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: the media and relay their message to the fans about 186 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: their poor performances. And Eric Fetty did a nice job 187 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: of saying, yeah, this is impacted me mentally too. 188 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. They're a no excuses 189 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: for it. Obviously it sucks. 190 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: But when a pitcher doesn't know what's going on and 191 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: it starts to impact him mentally, you need to give 192 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: him a break. So I'm in the movement, Bernie. I'm 193 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: sure you are too. I don't think Eric Fetty should 194 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: be that last start. I think you should see what 195 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: Magreeedy can do here. 196 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: No, they got to get him out of there, and 197 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: they've got to figure something out. 198 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm gonna get off. 199 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: I'm actually not off topic, but I just want another 200 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: layer to this is. Of course, you know, John Mosaic 201 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: made the decision to hold on Eric Fetty, and let's 202 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: face it, that turned out to be a disaster. 203 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 4: I argued, and I was hardly alone. 204 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: Many many, many people argued or made the point that listen, 205 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: if you let him go into the season, there's two 206 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: things can happen. 207 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: He'll either get. 208 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: Hurt or his performance will deteriorate. Well, you know, I'm 209 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: glad he hasn't gotten hurt. Wouldn't wish that on anybody. 210 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: But his performance has absolutely deteriorated. So I don't know 211 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: what trade value he has. I think it'd be a 212 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: team trying to take a lottery ticket. But this whole 213 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: this entire trade, by the way, which I liked at 214 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: the time, I'm not going to be a hypocrite. This 215 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: this whole thing turned out really bad for the Cardinals, 216 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 3: and Fetti has just lost it. But Katie, if you 217 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: don't mind me the sort of break, you know, breaking 218 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: the parameters a little bit. They have two rotation problems 219 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: because Miles Michaels is done too. And this frustrates me 220 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: on so many levels because every time you you write 221 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: a good piece about the trade deadline, and we all 222 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: talk about this conversations all the time, what should they do? 223 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 4: What should they do? 224 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: Like John mose Like made a comment in your story 225 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: about like, oh, so starting pitching has been solid. No, 226 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: actually it hasn't been. There's been a couple of guys 227 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: that have been solid. Michael List and Fetti have been 228 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: a disaster. If you go back to May the twentieth, 229 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: let me just give you this one stat. 230 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: Let me give you this one stat. 231 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: In seventeen starts since May the twentieth, those two guys 232 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: have an era. Well, yeah, those two guys have a 233 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: combined ERA of six point sixty seven. They've given up 234 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 3: twenty homers. That's in seventeen starts, right. The rest of 235 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: the rotation during that same time has got a three 236 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: point nine. Oh e. Ra Gray has been good, Libby's 237 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: been pretty good. Pat Polonte's made a nice bounce back mcgravy, 238 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: but you give you give him a pass because he's 239 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 3: just getting started. So you have a situation. 240 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 4: Here where. 241 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: You you know, they they they say they're gonna they're 242 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: trying to win. It's a runway season. But as time 243 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: goes on, this is July, we got to see where 244 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: we are. They're they're basically saying, we got to try 245 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: to win, you know, if we if we want to 246 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 3: stay in this thing, we got to win. 247 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: But then maybe we'll think about making a trade. Maybe not. 248 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: You know, how can you if I'm not mistaken? 249 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: You know, in the seventeen starts that I talked about 250 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: with these two guys, the Cardinals are like five and twelve, 251 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: and it's not all their fault. There were some of 252 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 3: those games where they didn't score much. But what so 253 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: I I'm perplexed by all. 254 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: This, you know. 255 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: And it's not like if you dfa Miles Michaelis. It's 256 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: like you save money or or it costs you more. 257 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: That salary he's getting this year has already been paid for. 258 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: It's a guaranteed salary. Betty doesn't make all that much anyway. 259 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: But I just don't, you know, I don't I don't 260 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: know what his trade value will be. So do you 261 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: just have to eat that? I don't know, And I 262 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 3: know what they're saying. You know that, you know, Moe 263 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 3: said it again to you. He says it to everybody 264 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: else too. It's like, well, you know one of the 265 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: reasons they don't bring McGreevy up, and you know, we 266 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: want to see him up here, but it's like, uh, 267 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: you know, we don't. There's nothing behind him at Memphis. 268 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: And it's just it seems like a strange way to 269 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 3: look at things because number one, this rotation has been 270 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 3: healthy all season. You know, it's not like they have injuries. 271 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: You know, there's any like there's they've got reason to 272 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: think that like this big set of injuries. 273 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: Is imminent at any minute. 274 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: They've had a really, really healthy rotation. That's number one 275 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: and number two. You know, this is one of the 276 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: consequences of the Cardinals being cheap last off season because 277 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 3: some of the some of the teams that have good 278 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: starting pitching depth, they signed what you would call quadruple 279 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 3: A pitchers, you know, veteran guys trying to get their 280 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: form back. They'll sign a minor league deal, you put 281 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: him in bemfit. They did none of that, So this 282 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 3: is their own fault. And I don't look listen, I'll 283 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: shut up after this. I don't know how anyone can 284 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: take the Cardinals seriously when they have Eric Fetti and 285 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: Miles Michael List in the rotation. How can you even 286 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: take that team seriously? 287 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: I can't. 288 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: I just love it. I think we're going to go 289 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: back and forth on rams here. 290 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: This is going to be good because you're what is 291 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: so frustrating here as we switched to this topic, which 292 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: the answer to this topic bar is a time for 293 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: Michael mcgreeby full time is yes, it's been time. 294 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: It's so frustrating. 295 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: And I'll go back to this quote from Mo he 296 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: said about mcgreeby when he's pitched in the big leagues, 297 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: every time he's got the ball, he's pitched really well. Thankfully, 298 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: he's a very patient, good guy. He's tolerating this well. 299 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: The Cardinals shouldn't be tolerating this anymore. I for more 300 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: to say that John Michael McGreevy is a major league 301 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: pitcher and there are no spots for him. I firmly, 302 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: firmly disagree, and I understand what the organization was thinking 303 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: in March and April. That was the right call to 304 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: put McGreevy in triple A to protect your depth, especially 305 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: during the early month of the season's or the early 306 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: months of the season excuse me, where pitching injuries are 307 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: the most prevalent. 308 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: I get it. 309 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: It's an organization's basic responsibility to preserve its depth. It's 310 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: also an organization's basic responsibility to ensure that you have 311 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: enough protection. And the Cardinals did not have close to 312 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: enough protection from a Triple A level to cover Memphis 313 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: to make sure that if something happened in the major 314 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: league level they would be okay. McGreevy was their only 315 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: source of protection, so they had to use in this way. 316 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: That's a fault of their own. That made sense in 317 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: April and May, and a little bit in June. It's 318 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: July sixth. Your season is hinging on how this team plays. 319 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: In July, your whole of this season was we need 320 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: to find out who we can build around. We want 321 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: the young guys to have some performance and see who 322 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: can help the team. Michael mcbreeby is your third best pitcher. 323 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: He has been all season, regardless of where he's played. 324 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: He's played most of the season in Memphis. He is 325 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: still in Memphis right now, and he should not be. 326 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: It is no longer April. You're no longer covering depth. Yes, 327 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: you're weighing a risk a little bit if you bring 328 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: him up because you clearly don't see any of your 329 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: options in TRIAA other than him as serviceable. That is 330 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: your own fault as an organization. It's time to have 331 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: agreevy up here, and I mean Eric Fetti and Miles 332 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: Michael's too. But i've Eric Fetty's stats available right in 333 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: front of me right now. His last three outings sixteen 334 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: e runs over ten innings. The Cardinals have lost those 335 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: games by a collective score of twenty. 336 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: Six to nothing. 337 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: Bernie, and the organization keeps trotting someone who is clearly 338 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: not right out there, and. 339 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: They have a better solution for short term and. 340 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: Long term in Triple A right now, He's our twenty 341 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: twenty one first round pick. 342 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: No organization treats their first round pick like that. What 343 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: are we doing? 344 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: McGreevy should take this start coming up next weekend. 345 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. 346 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you can make the case they should have 347 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: they should have gone with that earlier. But I do 348 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: understand it in a way because Miles Michaelis was pitching 349 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: pretty well up until late May, so I can get that. 350 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: But this thing all just went to hell in June, 351 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: and they they're very, very slow to react. At some point, 352 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: they should have either moved Fetti aside skip, have him 353 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: skip a couple starts, have michael'ski skip a couple starts. 354 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: And that's a way to get you know, Fetti excuse me, 355 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: that's a way to get McGreevy up here, at least 356 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: more than they have in the past. But this is 357 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: what happens when you go into a season where you're 358 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: really undecided. You know, you're like the undecided voter in 359 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: an election. I always I can't stand here in about 360 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: undecided voter because it's like, you got to know who 361 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: you're going to vote for already. You know, what are 362 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: you waffling about? So the Cardinals are waffling, they're the 363 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 3: undecided voter. It's like, well, we got the runway. Oh, 364 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: we want to give opportunities to young players. We'll oh, 365 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: we got to see what our young guys can do, 366 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: except for Michael McGreevy, you know, because we're gonna keep 367 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 3: two older guys to have nothing left. 368 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: It just makes no sense, you know, Oh, we think 369 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: we can win. 370 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: You know, Moa was kind of make dropping you know, 371 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: hints or suggestions back in spring training, and we think 372 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: we can be pretty good. 373 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: We think we can have a good team. We think 374 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: we can be entertaining. 375 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: Uh. He was basically also saying, you know, we think 376 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: we can make the playoffs. He didn't say it dearly, 377 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: but that that's what he was intimating. And it's like, well, 378 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: how can you do that when you have two guys 379 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: in your rotation that are pulling the whole thing down 380 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: and whenever the way they're pitching now when they go 381 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: to the mounta, it's all it's just about a guaranteed loss. 382 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: If it's not guaranteed, you know, the odds are very much, 383 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: very very very much against you winning the game. They've 384 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: become a Both of those guys are a huge liability. 385 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: They should have DFA Michaels. Uh Saturday morning. But I 386 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: guess they're going to show him some respect. But he listen, 387 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: he's most guy, you know, So Mo's not going to 388 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: DFA Michaels. 389 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 4: Michaels has had. Michaels has had. You talk about leading 390 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: a charm. 391 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: Life, right, John Mozeligan is a contract extension that turned 392 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: out to be really bad. And when in any other 393 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 3: organization with d F a guy like that, based on 394 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: the fact, he hasn't been good. 395 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 4: He was not good in twenty three. 396 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 3: He wasn't he was worse than twenty four, and he's 397 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: even worse this year. 398 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 4: Why is he still here because you? 399 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you made a bad contract decision, and you 400 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: you you won't acknowledge that your decision was a total failure. 401 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: Well what does that do for your manager, who fans 402 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: want to blame for everything? What does that do for 403 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: the other players in the clubhouse? You know, when you're sticking, 404 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: When you're sticking with two people who fail repeatedly, how 405 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 3: can you How can you expect anybody to take you 406 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: seriously when you basically imply that you're, oh, yeah, we're 407 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: trying to win. How can any want to take you 408 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 3: have no credibility, You have very little left because some 409 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 3: of the other guys. 410 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 4: Are doing very well. 411 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 3: But I don't know, man, As you can tell, I'm 412 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: pretty jacked up about this. 413 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: I know we made we made a pact to not 414 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: be super emotional, and here we are both like pretty 415 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: annoyed about the whole situation. 416 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 3: See because because because I had to bring Michael List 417 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: in too, you know, so anyway, But it's true, man. 418 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: It's not and By the way, it's nothing personal. These 419 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: guys don't want to be bad. I know that they 420 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: feel terrible. 421 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: But I mean Miles was so upset Friday, and they're 422 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, we have both these games are national games, 423 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: so you don't get to see it on the postgame show. 424 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: But man, I mean Miles, that sucked. That sucks for him, 425 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: That sucks for Fetti. 426 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: They know it. 427 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: They know out there and they're not pitching well. They 428 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: know they're letting the team down. They know fans don't 429 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: want to hear it from them. I mean, they have 430 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: to perform. They're being paid to perform. And if you 431 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: want to be a contending team and you have better 432 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: options right now in Triple A and you're still continuing 433 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: to put up outings like this, it. 434 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: Is super frustrating. 435 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: And I think the Cardinals are very much at a 436 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: point where they need to make a decision, and I 437 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: think they will come Tuesday. We should have a better 438 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: understanding about their rotation. But Brian, when I need to 439 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: calm down because we need to do our draft Kings segment. 440 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: And I met this is a new one, so I 441 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 3: may I know what my responsibilities is in this, I 442 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: may do it a different way. 443 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: But I think every I think Draft Kings and everyone 444 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: else will like the way I do it, I hope. 445 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 3: So the pressure is no, no, because you know they 446 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: they want me to make make some picks. But the draft, 447 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: the Draft Kings, they haven't said anything for tomorrow Tomorrow's 448 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: games as far as I know, But I have enough 449 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: experience with this I can explain how it works, and 450 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: I also can explain things that they should look for. 451 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 4: All right, you think you think that would get a 452 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 4: thumbs up, Let's do it. Let's start. 453 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we're gonna we're gonna launch it into 454 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: our player spotlight presented by Draft Kings. 455 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: All right. 456 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: So someone noticeably absent here I regularly feeled over the 457 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: weekend was mister Nolan Ronado. He is dealing with some 458 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: shoulder right shoulder bicep area impingement that he got on 459 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: Friday taking I think I can't remember which a bat 460 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: it was, but it was an in game at bat, 461 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: felt something pull he had. 462 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: Was not in the lineup on Saturday. He was a 463 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: late scratch. 464 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: He tried to lobby to play in the lineup today 465 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: but was really not feeling well. So the carbs are 466 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: helping with the off down Monday. He'll be back in 467 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: the line up on Tuesday. They do not believe, and 468 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: I Alston will be necessary. Nolan and I talked this 469 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: more or this afternoon and he agrees. Just a rough 470 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: week for him with the finger that's still bothering him. 471 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: It's still pretty swollen. Now you got some right shoulder pain. 472 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: These guys are banged up. And it was funny. I 473 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: don't know if it was like funny ha ha funny, 474 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: but like funny over you right. Talk into a couple 475 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: of the writers upstairs as we watched the fifth inning 476 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: or so, and we looked at this infield and we thought, 477 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: this is about the quality of infield we would see 478 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: if Nolan Arnatto was traded, And for the sake of 479 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: everyone's mental health, I'm really glad that didn't happen because 480 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: it was not a pretty infield. So the Cardinals miss 481 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: him defensively at third base. I know he's been going 482 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: through it offensively. He has not looked super super great 483 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: over the last month. I thought June was better, obviously, 484 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: but they really missed his bat, as evidenced by another 485 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: shutout tonight. So Nolan arnad are a player spotlight. For 486 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: everyone's sake, we hope he is back in the lineup 487 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: on Tuesday when the Cardinals kick off their final homestand 488 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: of the first half, a three game set against the 489 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Nationals and three against the Braves. So let's as we 490 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: launch in two ore Pick six sponsored by Draftking. So 491 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: these for those who been familiar with Pick six, pretty 492 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: easy hit more or less on whatever you think is 493 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: happening over these these match these props are from over 494 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: the weekend. Really hard to get this one done because 495 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: we had a holiday weekend schedule. So if you this 496 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: is a very simple, easy game, you're going to go 497 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: pick two players for these props. 498 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: Who are you. 499 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: Going with here? 500 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: Well, what I want to do is I want to 501 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: explain something I actually did do last week. 502 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: To explain it right. 503 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 3: Because because the screen we have, it's like those games 504 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: have already been played. 505 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 4: I didn't pick anyone, So if I if I, if I, uh. 506 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: If I pick someone who hit a home run, everyone's 507 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: going to think that I was like kind of cheating 508 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: a little bit. 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We'll preface 556 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: this with we know are not as hurt. I'm playing 557 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: through some things. Concurists banged up, new bar banged up, 558 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: everyone's banged up. 559 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: It's July six. They're grinding through it. Okay. 560 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: What this offense performance has shown me lately is just 561 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: how much of an impact Yvonne Herrera has made in 562 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: this lineup they have first between zero production without him 563 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: right now. 564 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: It's a little bit alarming. 565 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: Actually, there's no doubt about it. 566 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you look at the RBI total that guy 567 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: had based on the number of games he played. It's 568 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: pretty amazing. I mean, he just he's a money hitter, 569 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 3: he really really is. And you know, they miss him 570 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 3: against lefties because they don't hit lefties very well. 571 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: And we've all talked and written about that. 572 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 3: But Avon Herrera, the beautiful thing about him is he's 573 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: even harder on right handed batter right handed pitchers. There's 574 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: no platoon disadvantage whatsoever, platoon split disadvantage, so they miss 575 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: him a lot. But I will say this, and I 576 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: was adding up some numbers from the Pittsburgh series and 577 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: then the two games the Cardinals lost this weekend and 578 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: guys that they needed to hit. Guys that they needed 579 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: to hit just didn't hit. I mean, Donovan was three 580 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: for twenty two, Burlison was two for twenty and this 581 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: is plus. Actually you can add Donovan one for three 582 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: on Sunday night. Mason Winn did not hit. He was 583 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: one for fourteen in these games that I referred to, 584 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: Newt bar two for fourteen, and it goes right on 585 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: down the list. 586 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: I don't mean to bore you all with numbers, but 587 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: the guys, it's tough when you don't have iron Ado. 588 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 4: It's really tough. 589 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: You don't have an era and you didn't have a 590 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: one hundred percent Wilson of Cheris. But these other players 591 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: are in the lineup for a reason because they're supposed 592 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 3: to be able to hit, and they can't disappear when 593 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 3: it gets tough. And this is not a character thing. 594 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: I'm not implying that, but maybe this is the limitation 595 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 3: of this offense. Maybe the offense is what it is. 596 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: When they're good, they score twelve runs. When they're bad, 597 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 3: they're really bad. You know, the Cardinals are sixteen and 598 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: nineteen since May the thirtieth, right, and in fifteen fifteen 599 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 3: of their last nineteen losses. Since made the thirtieth nineteen losses, 600 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: they've scored. 601 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: No more than two runs, So. 602 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, no wonder they have a losing record. 603 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 3: You know, during that time, you got two rotation pieces 604 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: that are terrible, and you have a lot of your 605 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 3: key guys not really doing anything, not that much, you know, 606 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: So that part's got to turn around because there's no one. Yeah, 607 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: Herrero will be back after the All Star break and 608 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 3: he'll come to the rescue to a point, but that's 609 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 3: a ways off, still a little ways off. So but 610 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: these other guys need to step it up a little 611 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 3: bit and listen. They would be the first to tell 612 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 3: you that, you know, so. 613 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: Up, it's an accountable group. It is an accountable group. 614 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: I will will I've said that from the start, and 615 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: it's really coming to show now as I think the 616 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals go through a real tough kind of two weeks 617 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: of adversity. Here some injury updates that will hopefully help 618 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: the offense. Again, we talked about Arnado von Herrera. John 619 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: Mozello said on Friday is about a week and a 620 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: half away from starting a rehab assignment. So that's a 621 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: little bit sooner than I am my projection of when 622 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: he would return, and he is a candidate to return 623 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: to the lineup after the All Star break. Jordan Walker 624 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: is doing some extended work in Springfield. 625 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: The reason that the Cardinals. 626 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: Chose Springfield over Memphis is because of the instructors down 627 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: in Springfield, and I think there's some overall just better 628 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: facilities down there. 629 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: At the moment. And as Jordan Walker works back. 630 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: From pendicitis, he's also taking some time to really break 631 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: down some swing changes that they've made, work on some 632 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: approach things. This is the time to do it for 633 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Walker because with the Cardinals need to produce desperately offensively. 634 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: You bring him back in and he's trying to fix 635 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: his swing at the major league level, it's not going 636 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: to go well. So take some extra time in the miners. 637 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: There's no rush to bring him up on your injury 638 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: rehab assignment. Work with the hitting coaches down in Springfield. 639 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: Hitting coordinator restein Horn does a really nice job down there, 640 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: and work your way back in. So this is kind 641 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: of a favorable break for Jordan Walker and the Cardinals 642 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: right now. 643 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, hopefully those two right handers get back soon. 644 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals, as we've talked about, Bernie not super great against lefties, 645 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean not board just again got right through them. 646 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: So I haven't checked the probables for the Nationals. I 647 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: don't really know if they have any idea what's. 648 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: Going on right well, they just fired they fired the 649 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 3: GM and the manager today. 650 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: So oh hey, it could always be worse. 651 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: The Nationals, of course, have the number one pick in 652 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: the MLB Draft in six days and don't have a 653 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: general manager or a manager. They actually haven't even announced 654 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: the interim manager yet. 655 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: I think they're going to get there, they hope. 656 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: So if we're going to leave on a funny ha 657 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: ha note, obviously they've never find people lose their jobs. 658 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: But at least they're not the Nationals today, right, at 659 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 1: least they're not the Nationals. 660 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 4: At least they're not the Nationals and going forward. 661 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's so imperative. I don't and the cause 662 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: you mentioned the draft, it's so imperative. Like whoever the 663 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: Cardinals draft. Let's say they draft an offensive player. The 664 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: Cardinals need some dudes. They don't have dudes. They have 665 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: good they have a few really good players, they don't 666 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: have dudes. 667 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 4: When they walk to the plate. 668 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: Everyone, if you're if they're in the other if they're 669 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: on the road, they're in one of the divisions social 670 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: division places guy walks and walks to the plate. 671 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 4: There's two guys on. There's almost like a murmur in 672 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 4: the crowd because he's a dude. It's like, this guy's 673 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: really dangerous. 674 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: No disrespect to all the Cardinals, but there's very little 675 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: danger in their lineup. They're just is and they're way 676 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: too inconsistent. The Cardinals need dudes. I've covered this team 677 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: since nineteen eighty five. They've always had dudes. They do 678 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: not have dudes anymore. They have they have some good players, 679 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: but good players don't do it. Look at the Cubs 680 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: elite players. Elite players. 681 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: Gets me fired up, and the Cardinals don't have a 682 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: star like that, and it's disappointed. It's not to say 683 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: they can't draft and develop one. They used to do 684 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: a very good job in doing so, obviously, but it 685 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: was really evident to me. 686 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: Bernie. 687 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: First of all, I think Rhythmfield's quick side comment is 688 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: my favorite place to watch a game is it was 689 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: such an engaging crowd environment. Holiday weekend Cardinals Cubs. Cubs 690 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: are playing some fantastic baseball. And every time I watch 691 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Pete pro Armstrong come in to play, and I guess, 692 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: Michael Bush he's a guy. I guess, Yeah, took him 693 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: out all series. But Pete Crow Armstrong fires up the 694 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: crowd like no other. And it's been a while since 695 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: the Cubs had that kind of player. The Cardinals too, 696 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: they really need to develop a star, I. 697 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 6: Know. 698 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: And you just real quick you look at the Cubs 699 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: and Suzuki's having a great year, just a great year, 700 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: and Pete Crow arm songs outstay. Michael Young is one 701 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: of the best players in baseball. And you know, one 702 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 3: of the one of the things is when you have 703 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: a couple of dudes, then it's easier for someone else 704 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: to become a dude. And say, what are you talking about? 705 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: You're using the word dude too much. Well, you know, 706 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: if you've got Michael Young in your lineup, not Michael Young, 707 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm sorry you you know you have him the dude 708 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: from Hugh Tucker, Kyle Tucker. 709 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, Michael Young, it's late, Katie. What can 710 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 4: I says? I'm grad You know, when you when you 711 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 4: have you know, Michael Young, and then you know you. 712 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: Kyle, we are falling apart. It's okay. 713 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: When you have Kyle Tucker, you go get in. That 714 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: makes it easier. 715 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: And Pete crow Armstrong, right, it just takes some of 716 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 4: the pressure off. 717 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 3: And then with with Pete prow Armstrong and and Kyle 718 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: Tucker just just absurdly great this year. That takes some 719 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: of the heat off of Suzuki, and so he's relaxed. 720 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: He's like, well, I don't have to be the guy, 721 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he's driven into with seventy 722 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: five seventy six runs. 723 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: He's the guy. 724 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: So he's become a dude because he didn't have to 725 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 3: be the dude. They got two other dudes. It makes 726 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 3: it easier for him to be Okay, I'll be the 727 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: third dude. The pressure's off, you know. So there's a 728 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 3: psychological component to this. And next time we do Cardinal Territory, 729 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: I'll make sure I get the note, I'll get the 730 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: players name straight. 731 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 4: But what can I say this? 732 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: We all know what the standards are for the show, 733 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: are okay, right right, eleven PM on Sunday night, Sunday 734 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: Night Baseball. I do I do love anytime the car 735 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: was on primetime Sunday Night Baseball on the final night 736 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: of a ten game three city trip followed by what 737 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: howur Raindoway and then a three hour and ten in 738 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: a game. 739 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm out. I'm out on that. 740 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: Thank goodness, there is an off date tomorrow because I'm 741 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: on fumes. 742 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 4: Even May I told I touched his Mason wo was 743 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 4: cracking me up. 744 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 3: He was, he was ESPN micd him up. And he 745 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 3: had the fifth inning where they scored all those runs. 746 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: And so the fifth inning, I'm exaggerating on purpose, that 747 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 3: fifth inning, that bottom of the fifth lasted like two hours. 748 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: And so when Mason wentz talking to these. 749 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 3: Guys the entire time, so it was right before the 750 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 3: final batter, and Mason went said, he says bad pace, 751 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: bad pace, you know, you know. 752 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 4: Kid, talking about how slow the game was moving. 753 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: And I think Cale, you know, Carl raviits said you 754 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: said it, you know, like we didn't say it. 755 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 4: You said it, you know. 756 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: But I think Mason Win spoke for ever anybody watching 757 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 3: that game certainly. 758 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: Spoke for the writers up with the good old press box. 759 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: All the story for this podcast episode. Cubs during a 760 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: lot of things, right, Cardinals not so much. Saint Louis 761 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: can change its course with a conversation about the rotation. Uh, 762 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: and they should, in my opinion, make those changes. It's 763 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: Michael McGreevey time. It's it's been that if you want 764 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: to compete and you want to give this team or 765 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: the span base something to be energized about the rest 766 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: of the season in August and September. If you are 767 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: going to go out there and say how you play 768 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: in July is going to dictate you buy or sell. 769 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: Put your best possible chance to win every day in 770 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: July and play like it. It really is not that difficult, 771 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: So just do it, all right? 772 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 4: They got it. Yeah, it's time to shake it up 773 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 4: that way. 774 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's time. 775 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: Was that for you and I to maybe decompressed, calm down, meditate. 776 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do know that we'll be 777 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: back for three episodes before the All Star Breaks, Slash 778 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: Draft a lot to talk about. I'll be with you 779 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: guys for a trade deadline update from my conversations with 780 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: John Mosailock over the weekend, and then Brittan that will 781 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: help break down three games against the Nationals and three 782 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: games against the Braves, and we went back to it 783 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals fans, get some sleep, flush this one if you can. 784 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: And before we go, a huge shout out once more, 785 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: congratulations to the Cardinals National League All Star pick Brendan Donovan. 786 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: What a deserving guy. 787 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: Just thrilled for him and his family to be able 788 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: to experience this at Truce Park. So deserving, such a 789 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: great season, such a great do shout out Brendan Donovan. 790 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: There are we going in on something positive on what 791 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: was it? 792 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 4: Very good job? 793 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: All right, Cardinal Territory fans, we will talk to you 794 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: next week for Bernie. 795 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm Katie. 796 00:36:53,120 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 4: See ya, yeah,