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Speaker 1: I'm like, very grateful that you're here. What I was

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00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 1: I wanted to write that point you're saying, not going

429
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: to like you don't have to go to college like

430
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: for me, I've always not. I talked to cat about this,

431
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: how I got my tattoos early, how I do I

432
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: kind of take these risks that the normal person doesn't take,

433
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: and not not that it's good or badness. I'm not

434
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: taking risks like with my life necessarily, but like some

435
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: people may say with my life because it's my career

436
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: and it's finances, whatever it may be. But you've got

437
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: to understand that society I want you to live in

438
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: a box and wants everybody to kind of fit in

439
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 1: that same box. And that's how it keeps kind of

440
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: the status quo the same. It keeps everybody thinking the same,

441
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: everybody dressing, acting, whatever it may be. So I've never

442
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: wanted to do that. So I've always figured, like, Okay,

443
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 1: in order to be different, I have to do different things,

444
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 1: Like I have to kind of maneuver just a little

445
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: different than the normal person moves so sometimes on purpose,

446
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: I do that just to see if the results are

447
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: different than what everybody else is getting. Well, where do

448
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: you find the security to go take the risks? Because

449
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of what people struggle with this.

450
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna do whatever else does and

451
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: stay with the status quo because that will provide security

452
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: because that path has been laid. If I do go

453
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: to college and get the degree, then I'll be able

454
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: to get a job, and then I'll be able to

455
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: do this. And so the people, the most successful people

456
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: are the people usually that take the biggest risks. And

457
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: anybody who has great success usually has a couple of

458
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: failures behind their back. And so where did you find

459
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: security to be able to I mean, you've taken a

460
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: lot of risks, and well, I'll start with confidence, Like

461
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: I get the confidence from my family too. Um. Once

462
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: they saw the college thing that necessarily work out, they

463
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: were scared. They were mad at first, but then they

464
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: saw how relentless I was and the plan I had

465
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: together and all of this different stuff, and it was

466
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, we believe in you, so for

467
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: now once since since that time, for the last ten

468
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: fifteen years. No matter what I've done, they believe and

469
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: they trust that it's okay. So if I decide to

470
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: do something that they wouldn't do or the normal person

471
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't do, they don't look at it like, um, he's

472
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna fail. They actually look at it like, oh, you

473
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: do that because we know you're different, we know you're

474
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: built a little different because of kind of what I've

475
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: proven to them. So that gives me confidence at first, know,

476
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 1: my family believe, my friends believe that I can do it.

477
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: And then probably on the other side of it, just

478
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: I guess the ability to be comfortable with failure, like

479
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm okay, how did you find that? Because when you

480
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: play basketball, like you you win one game, there's four

481
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: games in a week of seven days. You win one,

482
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: you lose one, you win one, you lose one, And

483
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: when you start a team, a lot of that pressure

484
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: is on you. You looked at like okay, you lost

485
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: the game. For as you win a game, So for me,

486
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: I have to prepare myself after every game to be like,

487
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: forget about to win, forget about the loss. You have

488
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: to prepare yourself the next game. So that mentality of

489
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: sports you bring that into business, Like one day somebody

490
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: might sue you. The next day you might get the

491
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: biggest contract of your life. The next day you might

492
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: lose the best worker you got to another company. The

493
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: next day you might get ten new clients. So every

494
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: day you just gotta realize things are gonna be highs

495
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: and lows. And it's just like sports to me, like, oh,

496
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: knowing things are gonna happen, and then you just gotta

497
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: just kind of keep flowing, rolling the tides. Yeah. And

498
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: were there any times in that going back, going way

499
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: back in the in the three years, because we'll get

500
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: to your success, but we're talking about your failure in

501
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: that three years, were there times where you had a

502
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: loss or something happened and you were like, oh my god,

503
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, God, what the hell is happening? Yeah?

504
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: For sure, I mean that the whole time was and

505
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: how did you pick yourself up? Yeah, So that whole

506
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: time was like kind of like not a loss, but

507
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: it was a down time. Like I was living with

508
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: a young lady who I moved there with um and

509
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: she was in pharmacy school, so I was kind of

510
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: living with her essentially, and she was helping me like

511
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: get by like, I mean really, and I was where

512
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: we're living in Midtown, so here it was here. Yeah

513
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: when I moved here, like I moved here like right

514
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: after I left school. It was like, so he was

515
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: here three and a half. It is like when I

516
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: left like that areas like twenty three and a half

517
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: and I got here like August twenty three and a

518
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: half four and yeah, I've been here ever since, so

519
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: almost seven years now. Okay, so you were living with

520
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: you said a young lady, but girlfriend, yeah, April, yeah,

521
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: she was like yeah, I mean she wasn't just a friend.

522
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: Like if you look at the post I put up

523
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: on Instagram yesterday, I put her name in the post.

524
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: I said. Without April, like, I wouldn't have been able

525
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: to you know what I mean, tagging everything, so anybody

526
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: wants to see who she is. She's somebody that's just

527
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: like really supported me. She's my best friend, and I

528
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to build my business. I wouldn't

529
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: be able to. I wouldn't have become the man I

530
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: am without her in my life. A dent, Like, she's

531
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: still my best friend to this day. I talked her

532
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 1: every day, Like we're not together anymore. But she is

533
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: my best friend in this world. Okay, well we have

534
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: to come back to the idea because I think a

535
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: lot of people are wondering, how are you best friends

536
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: with your ex girlfriend? So we'll we'll come back about

537
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 1: adding value. Remember that value last forever? What does that?

538
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? We're not going to

539
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: come back to it, talk about it now. One best

540
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: friend my ex because we both had added some much

541
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: value to each other's lives that it's almost impossible to

542
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: forget or to not have a relationship with somebody that's

543
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: done so much. So for me, it's I constantly pushed her,

544
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: motivated her to do more, constantly, um gave her just

545
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: so much like positive energy and optimism that anything is

546
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: possible no matter what you're going through, and that like

547
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: stuck with her and that helped her, That genuinely helped

548
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: her through like any trial that she had one time

549
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: together and me, she supported me and becoming like a

550
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: man and was patient with me through my journey through depression,

551
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: through not um not necessarily being successful right out of school,

552
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: through not knowing what I wanted to do, through just

553
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: not making me feel bad because of it. Essentially and

554
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: just like helping me when I decided what I wanted

555
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: to do, so for her, there was different types of

556
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: support that I was brought provided her that she provided

557
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: for me. But it's something that um neither of us

558
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: could ever like forget. And I've never met somebody that's

559
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: meant that much to me as far as like a companion.

560
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: But again, people grew apart and we're not meant to

561
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: be together. We're definitely not meant to be together anymore,

562
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: but we're meant to have a relationship forever. I feel like,

563
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like because again, my company

564
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have started without her, without her allowing me to

565
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: just work on that and her helping to kind of

566
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: support my life while I was doing that essentially, So

567
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: it's people in your life that you've just got to

568
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: make sure always like give them the flowers where they

569
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: can still smell them, you know what everybody needs to

570
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: Derek and their lives because that is such a rare

571
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: That is a rare perspective on relationships and people. And

572
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times when relationships end, it

573
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: almost is like a death of somebody. And I will

574
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: say a lot of times, whether it's to friends or

575
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: clients or myself. To me, breakups a lot of times

576
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: are harder than a death of somebody because they're still alive.

577
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: They're still there, but they're not in your life anymore,

578
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: and it's like you could reach out to them, but

579
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: it's not it's not the same, And so you have

580
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: to grieve somebody that's still living. And so definitely that

581
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: your perspective is you don't always have to grieve that person.

582
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: You grieve the relationship and what relationship was, but it

583
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: also can be transformed into something else. And I say

584
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: that with that takes a lot. Ye, I don't greet

585
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: the relationship. We actually like I think about the memory.

586
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: It's the good and bad. Sometimes I just try think

587
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: about the memory because we spent so much time, so

588
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: much in my life together that it's like you know

589
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: what good in bad. It's just like it's all growth,

590
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: the good stuff and the bad stuff that went through.

591
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: It's like all growth, and we grew into adults together

592
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: kind of, so it's pretty cool. I just hear like gratitude, gratitude, gratitude,

593
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: like I'm grateful for all of that um And you'll

594
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: hear a lot of people say like it was wasted

595
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: time or all of that. And I think it's really

596
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: important to to note that people are put in your

597
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: life the way they're putting your life at certain times

598
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: for reasons. And you're saying, like I would not have

599
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: done a lot of the things that I did, probably

600
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: even moved to Nashville. Would you have moved to Nashville.

601
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: No way, Okay, no way. I wouldn't have moved to Nashville.

602
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't for this person. And so just because that

603
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: relationship the way it was isn't still a thing, like

604
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: all of that is not lost, not at all. No,

605
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: it was. It was one of the best seasons in

606
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: my life. I feel like things are um certain times

607
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: in your life. Was just seasonal. Like your season may

608
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: last for five years. This season may last for two months,

609
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: it may last for ten years. Like it. You just

610
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: got to get the most that season, learned from that season,

611
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: and appreciate it for what it was. And that was

612
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: a very long season in my life, but it was.

613
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: It was one of the best like things that's ever

614
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: happened to me. Seriously, so can I you don't have

615
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: to answer this, but how long did you guys date?

616
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: Like six years? Holy crap. Yeah, definitely. You don't even

617
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: ask me anything. I really don't did that. So when

618
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: did it end? Um like two years ago? No, like

619
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, like it It hasn't

620
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: in that long. It's like it was like February last year,

621
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: like January, and we were on it off. It was

622
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: a couple of times where you kind of just you know,

623
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: but it was a pretty consistent sneaky Derek, You're sneaky

624
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: because because I don't know what can I say this?

625
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: We can take it out, I have to take it out,

626
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: but no, I no, I can take it out. But

627
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: we did never knew you had a girlfriend. Sometimes sometimes

628
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: one time. Sometimes you have to let people go and

629
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: live your life and live their life if you're not

630
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: willing to fully fully commit anymore. And it was for

631
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: the last year and a half two years, it was.

632
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: It was times when I just kinda I don't know,

633
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: just lost the energy for relationship, lost the passion for relationship,

634
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: and he became more of a friendship than an actual

635
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: romantic relationship. Even like two years, it gets like stale,

636
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: especially as a young man, like a young energetic like

637
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It become the it became

638
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: um more of a dependency at times, like I was dependent,

639
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: not even financially, more like emotionally, more like just wanting

640
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: company essentially. So she became like a friend, you know.

641
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was it wasn't something I was super

642
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: And that's when you know it's maybe time to get

643
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: out of relationship and let that person be free. Because

644
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: if you're not excited to tell the world about that person,

645
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: and not that you have to blast all over social

646
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: media or whatever it may be, but the people that

647
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: know you, the people that see you weekly, if you're

648
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: not excited to tell them about like certain things that

649
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: are happening in life, especially your counterpart, then that might

650
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: not be the person anymore, you know what I mean.

651
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm feeling. And again I'm big on privacy,

652
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: but there's a difference between privacy and like just not

653
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: really proud of what's happening essentially. So that's where I

654
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: was at. We always did wonder, Yeah, people wonder. People

655
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: always wonder. They're like, yo, what people, and like, what's

656
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: so with this? That's why I'm low, Like you're not

657
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: gonna see me post no, And they wondered, like he

658
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: ten girls is he gay? What's up with him? Say? Now,

659
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm straight in an arrow and I'll be hanging. I'll

660
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: be hanging, but I'm low with it. Oh my gosh,

661
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: that's funny. Okay, well that's some good information. Um, I

662
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: have to do this more often, just if I can

663
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: ask you personal questions. So okay, Banco. So going back,

664
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: you moved here at twenty three something, you said, what

665
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: did you do when you got here? And what we

666
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts, because again we just went right through,

667
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: like your introduction of who you are to like the

668
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: whole episode. But right now most of the people listening

669
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: people might actually know you. I feel like you're pretty

670
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: well known in Nashville. Is you're probably one of the

671
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: more well You might discree because you're you, but you're

672
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: very successful and I think that you've had a lot

673
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: of success and it happened in a short period of time.

674
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: And so I'm looking at you now as a business

675
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: owner and entrepreur or and God knows what you can do.

676
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: But that was probably a very you were probably a

677
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: very different version of you three and a half twenty four,

678
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: moved here, no idea what you're doing? Right? So I

679
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: want to know about that version of Derek and what

680
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: he was feeling, what you were dreaming about, Like did

681
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: you have dreams of what you're doing now or is

682
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: it like still in that zone of like the paths

683
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: open and I'm gonna go anywhere. Um so the past open,

684
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: I will go anywhere. Just so we're very clear, like

685
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: that is how absolutely, that's how I've gotten to where

686
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: I've got because I've allowed relationships to come into my life.

687
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: I've allow um just different careers, like just exploring and

688
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: trying different things, meeting new people, network and whatever it

689
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: may be, and accepting things that come into my life.

690
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: So when I met you, I saw this like love life,

691
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: like can do anything outgoing, the most friendly person ever,

692
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: almost like you've never met a stranger, you know everybody's name.

693
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: But was there like what were you when you moved here?

694
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: Was it different? No? I mean yeah, when I moved here,

695
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: I was I was a little first. No, the first

696
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: feeling I felt and I moved here was excited, Like

697
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: I left this college town. I got away from everybody

698
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: that knew me, kind of like social media wasn't that

699
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: huge at the moment, So I kind of left this

700
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: small college town Derek Billips, didn't you fill up team?

701
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: He did the new town, new people, nobody knows me,

702
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: perfect breath of fresh air. Yes, first feeling. Second feeling

703
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: is like, holy ship, what am I going to do here?

704
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: Like I have no degree, career, no job, like this

705
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: girl she's going to school every day like I have

706
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: a car, and all at the time like what was

707
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: it like? Okay, tell me what was it like to

708
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: be with a girl who's she's going to farm, no

709
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: her dad mom, or like what the funk? Who? Why?

710
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: Why is he with you? Kind of thing? And she

711
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: always was just like you don't know this guy, like

712
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: he's he built a little different We met. She went

713
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: to James Madis University is right next to my college,

714
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: right next to my college. My school was right next

715
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: to it, and it was like this club right next

716
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 1: between them, and I would go to the club arey,

717
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: we can know, cooled out, you know how I'll be.

718
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: So I was in the club and seeing her in

719
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: the clubs and we started dancing. You know me, I

720
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: go up, me buy you a drink. Four locals were

721
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: big at the time, ever, but four local and then

722
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: started dancing all over That's yeah, it was all over

723
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: from there. We after that. I don't think we missed

724
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: a day for like six years, like a partner in crime.

725
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: And at the time I was gonna play a ship.

726
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: So she she snatched me up and it was just

727
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: like that was it. I was like, damn, I'm chilling

728
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: like posted up. Okay, So what was it like? So

729
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: her parents didn't like you, her parents didn't didn't know me.

730
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: Her parents didn't know me. So I mean, if we

731
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: want to talk racial, it was probably based on stereotypes

732
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: to the time. I had a bunch of tattoos. Yeah

733
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: she's white. Yeah, I had a bunch of tattoos. Um

734
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: I was. I didn't graduate college. Um, energy was just

735
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: very like high. They met me a couple of times.

736
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't even think that we introduced

737
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: the fact that you're black. These people black man, I'm

738
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: a black. Y'all can't tell us sound black. I got

739
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: work on my voice. Yeah, but yeah, long story short. Um,

740
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: we met there, her parents. Her parents didn't hate me,

741
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: but you could just tell the vibe wasn't there, and

742
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't very supportive of us living together or me

743
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: moving there with her. But at the same time, just

744
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: like I said, she's a soldier, Like she recognized who

745
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 1: I was as a man, saw me from my heart

746
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: and recognized, like, whenever he decides to do, he's going

747
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: to do it. So whatever it is, like, I'm gonna

748
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: be patient and let him decide on that. But once

749
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: it happens, the shift is there. And then once I decided,

750
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: once I saw like found my niche and found out

751
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: one to do, it was over. Like it was completely

752
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: over by the end of it, Like her parents wanted

753
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: to invest in my company type ship, like you know

754
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it the tide shift, the things changed,

755
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: and it becomes like will you will you talk about

756
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: the racial part of that of the one? What was it? Like?

757
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: Was this the first white girl he dated? No? I know,

758
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: I grew up in the suburbs, like everybody I grew

759
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: up like mostly the people that were in my classes

760
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: in school in my neighborhood was all white. It was

761
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: probably a white suburban neighborhood that I grew up in,

762
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: So I I grew around white people. So for me,

763
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: it was never it was always white or black or

764
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: white and black girls or whatever it was. So race

765
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: for me has never been like challenging because mentally, I've

766
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: never I've never had a glass ceiling over my head

767
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: as a black man because growing up, starting in preschool,

768
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: I've went to school with white boys, white girls. So

769
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: our grades were always the same, our parents always made

770
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: the same money, are um, we dated the same girls.

771
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: I was always better in sports, like so for me,

772
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: there was never anything better. There was never my house

773
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: was bigger, my house like, my grass was greener, like

774
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: there was nothing that I felt like they were ever better.

775
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: So growing up as a black man, I'm like, I'm

776
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm sucking a ship. So even when the college it

777
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: was all white college, all white high school, so for

778
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: me it was but all my boys were black, so

779
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: there was but a lot of my boys are white

780
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: to my girls, so I just got along with everybody.

781
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: So black and white wasn't as big it probably got.

782
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: Like right now is the biggest that I've ever felt like,

783
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: the black and white thing in my life, to be

784
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: honest with you, like right now, And unfortunately that's like

785
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: I need this time because sometimes I get lost in

786
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: the world that I don't focus on the systemic issues

787
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: that are happening with my people. I'm just so yeah,

788
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying I don't experience him. I

789
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: just don't notice them as much as you're probably regular

790
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: African American would, because I truly don't give a funk

791
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: what people think. I know who I am, I know

792
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: what I'm capable of, and I know if you put

793
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: me in a fair um like challenge with anybody white man,

794
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: Asian man, like, it doesn't matter, like it's gonna be

795
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: to the nails like whatever it may be. So I

796
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: don't feel like anybody hold me back. And that's a

797
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: huge reason why I started my own business. Because when

798
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: you when you work for somebody, you're at their discretion

799
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: whether they like your race, they like your sexuality, they

800
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: like your energy, they don't like your the way you're dressed,

801
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: they don't like your tattoos, whatever it may be. And

802
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: I felt like, no, no, but he's gonna ever control

803
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: like how much I'm gonna make, what I'm gonna do,

804
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: my family's long term wealth, whatever it may be. So

805
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: I start my own businesses and I control that myself.

806
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: And that's just how I feel. And again, everybody not

807
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: like that. You find your Yeah, so let me let

808
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: me uh kind of paraphrase this to make sure I'm

809
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: following you so. And I think this is important because

810
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: last week we had another black man talked about his

811
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: experience and one of the things we talked about is

812
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: you can't talk to one black person because everybody has

813
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: a different experience. I guess isn't a question. I'm saying

814
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,479
Speaker 1: what I heard you say. You never felt like there

815
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: was any difference between you and anybody of any different color,

816
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: whether they were No, never, not until like I got

817
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: older and I'm getting in like twelve twelve, and I

818
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: see like millionaires and like multi multi multi millionaires. But

819
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: outside of that, and that didn't even ever ever make

820
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: me feel security. That actually motivated me. That made me

821
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, I have to live here like within

822
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: the next four or five where I have to be

823
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: able to buy what in east with you know what

824
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean. So for me, that only motivated me. But

825
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: I was never ever motivated by the people around me

826
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: growing up because they were all kind of all my

827
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: same socio economic status. They were all kind of lived

828
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: around me. They was always the best that a lot.

829
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: Would you say you were sheltered, No, I wasn't. I

830
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't say sheltered. But like I've never seen my parents

831
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: like smoke or drink. So in high school I never

832
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: smoked or drank. I didn't party a lot because I

833
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: played a lot of sports, au I traveled with sports

834
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: a lot. So I would say busy. I was really

835
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: busy as a kid. I wasn't necessary shelter because I

836
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: could really do what I wanted to do, you know

837
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I was busy, real busy, and

838
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: my parents kept me busy on purpose. Young black man

839
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: in America keeping busy, don't don't let him out there

840
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: roman roaming around all the time. Okay, So then fast

841
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: forward to now, So what what are your feelings on

842
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: what's going on in the world now? Because do you

843
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: feel like you especially owning a business, and especially owning

844
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: a business, and um, it's suport black business by the way,

845
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: he's asking you to support his business. Um, what has

846
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: that been like for you as an as more of

847
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: an adult, have you felt that more now? I feel

848
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: more of a responsibility now to step up, like as

849
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: a man, as a black man. Um, I've never felt

850
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: this responsibility before, To be honest with you, I felt

851
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: it more of a to show through my actions than

852
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: like to actually speak. But these days, I feel like

853
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: I have a voice and people listen. So it's up

854
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: to me to to actually educate myself on the history

855
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: of my people and educate myself on what's happening right now.

856
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: So when I do speak and I do um take action,

857
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: it actually is of value to what's happening and actually

858
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: like makes sense, you know what I mean? So right now,

859
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: like my job is to um necessary, not get too

860
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: reactionary right now, but also recognize that this is the

861
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: probably the most powerful civil rights movement or like movement

862
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: that we've had for African Americans in sixty seventy years.

863
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's bigger than what happened then,

864
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: like back in the day, because that was for so long.

865
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: But the amount of people that are participating right now

866
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: is more than it's ever been because it's the entire

867
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: world because of social media essentially, So to be a

868
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: part of this too, to watch the change that's occurring,

869
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: and even if it's small change, step by step, it's

870
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: it's changed. So I'm never gonna discredit any type of change.

871
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: If people just say, what is the black boxes? What

872
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: is it like that's that's never been done? People in

873
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: one day taking time to think about one cause since

874
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: like not eleven, like literally like to think about one

875
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: cause that they know needs to be adjusted fixed. And

876
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: for me, that's a huge change all in itself. So

877
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep the fight going. I understand

878
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: that I'm a black man in America, so I have

879
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: to I have to use my voice. But I also

880
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: understand it I'm kind of a privileged black man as well,

881
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: so I have to also let um not let that

882
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: be known, but utilize the privilege that I have to

883
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: access information and bring it back to my community. Essentially,

884
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: I have access to information that most African Americans don't have.

885
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: So you have the voice that a lot of people

886
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: listen to say that. Um, I want to get back

887
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: to this question. I feel like I could keep asking it. Okay,

888
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: So tell me what you were like pre I met

889
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: you if yeah, so, and you and you mentioned like

890
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: depression and all that. So you moved here without direction

891
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: and you felt that emotionally absolutely like I felt it, um,

892
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: but I was kind of okay with it, Like I

893
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I know this is feeling. This

894
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: is a feeling of like no direction, like the next

895
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: steps aren't defined like it was the next The next

896
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: steps aren't defined like it was for the first twenty

897
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: two years of life, college school classes, eating cafeteria, goes

898
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: spring break, like there's no there's no map. I don't

899
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: I didn't graduate, so now there's no like, there's definitely

900
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: no map for sure. So for me it was scary.

901
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: It was, Um, there was a depression time that what

902
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: did that look like in you? Because I can't imagine

903
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: because the depression looks different and everybody, and so a

904
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: lot of people will say, like they didn't look depressed

905
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: or they don't look like they have anxiety, but like,

906
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: what did it look like in you? And what did

907
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: it feel like? It was a lack of energy. It

908
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: wasn't really pessimism. I didn't think negative, but I could

909
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: tell my energy levels, my my love of life, like

910
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: the enthusiasm it was it had left, you know what

911
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: I mean? So like the depression wasn't necessary like suicidal thoughts.

912
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: Everybody's just a little different, and um, it was more

913
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: of a just like energy, the energy like I don't

914
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: know what to do, Like so I don't like what

915
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: am I gonna do? I don't have a car, I

916
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: don't like I have a lot of money right now,

917
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of like, so I had to and

918
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm with this girl was really going, yeah, super successful

919
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: and she'll do anything from I don't want to ask

920
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: her for anything. That's not really my style. I don't

921
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: want to feed off anybody. I want to cream my

922
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: own lane. How like what am I gonna do? So

923
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: that was a depress part not having And then I

924
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: really get into goal setting, Like at that time of

925
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: my life, I dug into like goal setting, and because

926
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: I had a lot of time in my hands, so

927
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: I started writing out these goals like I'm gonna train,

928
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find a studio here to train, I'm gonna

929
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: do this, I'm gonna start my own business. And so

930
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: then those goals started to like what was your first move?

931
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: The first move was to get my name certification. My

932
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: dad called me one day and he was like, yo, day,

933
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: I think you should train, and I was like no,

934
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: And then we got off the phone, and then three

935
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: days later he was like that day he was like

936
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 1: I'll go half with you or about the certification, whatever

937
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: you need. And then you have a lot of money

938
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: right now, whatever it may be, And I was like, no, Dad,

939
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: I'm good. I can't really see myself training They will

940
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: make a lot of money. I can't see myself doing that.

941
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not like this, like big Jack. I've never

942
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: want to be that. That's not who I am. Like,

943
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't like you don't think. No, I'm scared. I'm

944
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: a skinny. That's my that's my thing. Like I like,

945
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: I've always been like a like a thing guy. That's

946
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: like my m O. And I'm like, Dad, I've don't

947
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: even like I could be a trainer of It's like,

948
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: that's not and I thought a certain trainer was just

949
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: it like, man, I've ever seen in my life. I

950
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: don't know about that, but thank you. I saw the

951
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: video you did with the push ups then the towels.

952
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: The towels O. Thank you. Literally, it's like anyway, okay,

953
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: So your dad is like you should do that, you

954
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: should do it. So I called him back and I

955
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: was like no. I called it back like three or

956
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: four days later, and I was like, you know, but Pop, like,

957
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: could you go half of me? I don't want you

958
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: to pay for it, fully, but could you go half

959
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: of me on this? I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna

960
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: try it out, So I got in the game exactly,

961
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: so winning it. The first place I went to was

962
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: a place called Steps, and I went in there. It

963
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: was it was like your Belmont. Oh sorry, it was

964
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: near Belmont. Was having some issues holding them like voices

965
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: and out I'm holding I'm sorry. So I started a

966
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: place called Steps right and they what made you start there?

967
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: Our Google top studios and Steps came up. And I

968
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: lived in Mids. I lived right on the corner on

969
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: on Music Row forever, like rightnd the corner, and so

970
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: it was like one of the closest places that you

971
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: could like walk. But this is also five six years ago,

972
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: so Steps. So six years ago there was literally the

973
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: fitness community and Orange theories. It was a Barris boot

974
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: camp and I wasn't ready for that. So the fitness

975
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: community is huge and Nashville now and it's an awesome

976
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: but it was nothing like they were like three gyms.

977
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: There was not a lot of competition. And so you went.

978
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: So I was here, ground me and Cat was here

979
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: ground up. Remember that, like we put that work for real,

980
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: for real. But when another note, Yes, I went the Steps,

981
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: I interviewed, I had a suit on. I went in

982
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: for the suit. He had me. He had me do

983
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: like squat since you's like that and my form was off.

984
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: He told me, he was like, dude, you gotta come

985
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: enter in here for a little bit before we can

986
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: have you in. I left. I drove out of that

987
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: parking lot, came down music row, saw a Results it

988
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: was on my street, turned in like I left the

989
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: steps place. They told me. I didn't get it. Basically,

990
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: I had to come into. I went the Results, walked in.

991
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: Leanne Frank just walked in. I was just like, let

992
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: me just try to before I go home. I was

993
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: just like, let me. I literally untied my tie. I

994
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: was let me stop there. It was the best movie

995
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: I've had to made. I made friends with Leanne. She

996
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: was amazing. Yeah, she's amazing. She let me intern behind her.

997
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: Watch a lot of the trainers, Bill Crushfield, Um Forget,

998
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: a lot of other trainers, a bunch of older trainers

999
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: there at the time that we're all just like great.

1000
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: It was like a different time in fitness, Like it

1001
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: was like a like it was cool, and then I

1002
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: was really I was young and I got to watch

1003
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: them and they were all seasoned, and from that that's

1004
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: how it happened like literally left steps didn't get it. It

1005
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: It was the only place I interviewed went the results,

1006
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: just that they didn't even know I was coming in,

1007
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: just like, hey, what is this place? Like I saw

1008
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: it was a gym. You looked down the street. Derek

1009
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: had come back next week, you can come in, come

1010
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: chat with me and Josh And that was it. After

1011
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: that was it turned back. Oh my god. Yeah, I

1012
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: remember when because I was in grad school at the time,

1013
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: I guess this had to be long than that, unless

1014
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: it was Yeah, okay, so maybe seven years. So I

1015
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: was in grad school and I worked the front desk.

1016
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: All I did was go there for three hours a

1017
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: week and just sat there the towels. But she let

1018
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: me work out there for free. They see the half

1019
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: something in the front. But I remember I talked to

1020
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: lean like every time I was there, and I remember

1021
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: when she was like, Okay, we got this new guy.

1022
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: He's so great, like the what And I was like,

1023
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: who is this guy? But that is so cool? You

1024
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: literally and this is like y'all hear me want to

1025
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: say this. He literally just saw a place, walked in

1026
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: and like shot and it's changed in my life. Like

1027
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: walking in there and the worst that could have happened

1028
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: what she said, No, we're good, we're stacking. I might

1029
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: have came back the next day. Yeah. But I think

1030
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: that that is so powerful because I think a lot

1031
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: of times people get so paralyzed, so paralyzed for applying

1032
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: to a jobs, go into interviews asking questions, and you

1033
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: literally just walked in there after just getting rejected, after

1034
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: just getting that's the that's the the And you harp on,

1035
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: it's like you you move from just like my man

1036
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: Whiston Churchill said, and it's not quite my man, you

1037
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: did some things in the war I wasn't quite proud of,

1038
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: but his quotes. Being able to move from um, lost

1039
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: the loss without a loss of enthusiasm is key. And

1040
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: that's when you know you've made it. Yeah, lost the

1041
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: loss and not lose that in like right, bouncing right back,

1042
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: what's next? Yeah. And something that I harp on a

1043
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: lot is that there's no way if you're yourself, you're

1044
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: authentically yourself, there is and you're following the path that

1045
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be on. There's no way that every

1046
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: single person will like you. There's no way that's possible

1047
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: because there are so many different people in the world

1048
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: in different personalities, and so just because one person doesn't

1049
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: like you or one person doesn't want you, does not

1050
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: mean that the next person won't. And that is the

1051
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: thing that was like embedded in you because you got rejected.

1052
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: Walked into this place, you didn't know if they're hiring

1053
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: or had you ever been there before, never even and

1054
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: they probably had a sign that said like top Gym

1055
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: and Nashville because they want straight they had like and

1056
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: you're like, well, the worst that could that could happen

1057
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: is they reject me. The best that could happen is

1058
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: that they maybe talk to me and talk to me

1059
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: and kind of hired you on the spot. Literally, was like,

1060
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: that's awesome that you just walk in here, I told

1061
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: her by Steps, I was like, I just interviewed Dynasty.

1062
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: And she used to work at Steps and working Steps

1063
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: for a while, so it's kind of like she understood.

1064
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: I think that helped that, I said, I just interviewed

1065
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: the Steps like to be transparent, like I think it

1066
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: was like, oh you did, okay, well get your gas

1067
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: over here kind of thing, and it worked. She said

1068
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: one time, I think it was about it probably about you. Um,

1069
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: she said, I can teach anybody how to train somebody,

1070
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: but I cannot teach somebody how to have a personality,

1071
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: which is so I mean that is truly. It like

1072
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: if you believe in yourself and you're confident and you

1073
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: can talk to people like you can do a lot.

1074
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: That's fact. That's fact. That's one of the realest things.

1075
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: She definitely said. That's from having a business. You you

1076
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: can tell that you can train. You can teach any

1077
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: trainer how to train better, how to improve their training skills,

1078
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: but you can't teach them how to make people want

1079
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: to come to their classes, make people want to engage

1080
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: and follow them and whatever it may be. So that's

1081
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: a that's the art that and the older the more

1082
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: times go on, that less kids have that because social media,

1083
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: video games, not having to engage with people as much

1084
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: makes you not like that well and so self conscious,

1085
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: so self conscious, and I have experience of that. So, Um,

1086
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: when I I don't know if I told you this,

1087
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm no longer working at cycle Bar, No, I didn't know.

1088
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: So anyway, Um, when I was the lead instructor at

1089
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: cycle Bar, I was in charge of training all of

1090
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: the instructors and with every single person was always so nervous,

1091
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: like so nervous, every person, like every person. I've been

1092
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: a girl for the last month. She just started a

1093
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: Psyco bar. Tell me, Okay, I probably don't know because

1094
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: I haven't been there so long. But when the people

1095
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: would audition for Psycho bar or rain I and I

1096
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: wish that I had the video of me auditioning, I

1097
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: wasn't nervous, but I was bad, like I didn't know

1098
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: what I was doing. I never taught a fitness class

1099
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 1: of my life. I didn't know anything about the bikes,

1100
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: like I mean. But but the the person who trained

1101
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: me said she laughed about this all the time now

1102
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: and she's like a senior master instructor for CORP Corporate,

1103
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: but she she last all the time every time she

1104
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: comes back to Natural and she's like if y'all could

1105
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: see cat when I met her, like, no, it's funny,

1106
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: but she said she said she had no. No, I

1107
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: don't think I was nervous. I think she was like

1108
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: because I was in my head. I was like, I'm

1109
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: not nervous because I don't really know what the funk

1110
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm doing. So if I don't get it, I have

1111
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: a job. I'm fine, like I don't really care. Fitness

1112
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: wasn't my thing. It was just something I wanted to

1113
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: get into. And so I went in there being like

1114
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: it's not really I had just actually got four years,

1115
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: but I had just gotten rejected from another studio, and

1116
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: I was like whatever, like this place might work like

1117
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: whatever anyway. But she she said, like I saw that

1118
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: you were you were fun, and you were like you

1119
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: took feedback and like you had a good personality. I

1120
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: can teach you anything because my practice I'm seeing like

1121
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: twenty nine clients. Yeah, that's the only reason you left.

1122
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: No okay, no, no, no, no no, I'm just like

1123
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: I make three times as much in an hour. Talk

1124
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: do it. And I just left my hand out there.

1125
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: She's talking to her brother. She want to know I play.

1126
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: I just put my hand out hand. She just looked

1127
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: at my hand like what is that? Do you need

1128
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: to do that again? Yeah, I'm just doing a pound

1129
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: maybe easy? Oh my god. Anyway, Okay, so long story. Sure,

1130
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: everybody is so nervous, and I'm like, listen, there's nothing

1131
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: to be nervous about. When you were new at something,

1132
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: you have permission to suck like you do your permission

1133
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: to suck when you're new, and like give yourself that space.

1134
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: And if you have a good personality and you like yourself,

1135
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: you can do a lot of things. And so that's

1136
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: where it comes from. I think when you walked in,

1137
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: you were like, yeah, why, I mean, if why wouldn't

1138
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: they hire me? I don't know, why would they hire me?

1139
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: And and then look at that, and that is what

1140
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: spiraled everything for you because you aren't e been gung

1141
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: ho on doing fitness yet. Really, I wasn't goung ho.

1142
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: I was wasn't confident in it. I wasn't I was

1143
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: unsure about even that. Like I didn't know if I

1144
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: wanted to train in the golds gym or a step service.

1145
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know a results kind of place existed, like

1146
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: they had country music stars coming like like that changed

1147
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: my mentality on how much I would get how much

1148
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to pay myself for training, Like it made

1149
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: me realize, like, oh, I can make a career this

1150
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: like these people are like living like pretty well, like

1151
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it it literally checked

1152
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: because if I would have worked in Planet Fitness as

1153
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: a trainer, I might have been working on Planet Fitness.

1154
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: But maybe not still, but like you know, it was.

1155
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: It was a blessing, it was a godsend. It was

1156
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: trusting the journey. It was allowing taking that having that

1157
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: time to allow new things to come into my life.

1158
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: That time was important. If I would have worked a

1159
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: job or whatever, I may have allowed that the open

1160
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: coming to my mind, I wouldn't accept it. It It like,

1161
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: just try this real quick. So that's how I am

1162
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: right now. I'm sorry, that's how That's how I am

1163
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: right now. I'm just super open to accepting things into

1164
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: my life. So when did you And this is actually

1165
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: what I this is like the point of why I

1166
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about it. Um, when did

1167
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: you decide like I'm going to go do my own thing?

1168
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: And how did you do that? Because because starting your

1169
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: own business is really freaking scary, really scary. There's a

1170
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: lot of again risk, which we've talked about before. But

1171
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: I started my own business and it was terrifying. I

1172
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: went from comfort, I went from stable salary too, I

1173
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: got to move in with my sister. I make zero

1174
00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: dollars um. Really really patient because and I'd be really

1175
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: patient because the success came, but I had to be

1176
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: unsuccessful for a little bit. So how did you decide

1177
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: to do that? And then what was that like for you?

1178
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: That process? There's two For me, there's two types of motivations.

1179
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: You have a push motivation and a pool motivation. Um.

1180
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: A push motivation is something that pushes you to do

1181
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: something like started business because either you're mad or something's

1182
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: motivating you and it's just pushing you. Two, I have

1183
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: to do this. And there's a pool motivation. A pool

1184
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: motivation is something that's just been pulling you for twenty

1185
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: thirty years your whole life, to start a business, to

1186
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: be on your own, to be the boss of something.

1187
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: And when both of those things come together, like some

1188
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: people only get the pool, some people only get the push.

1189
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: I had both. At one time. I was pushed to

1190
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: do it because I felt resentment from the company I

1191
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: was with because I wasn't able to grow their brand

1192
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: the way I wanted to. I told them like, hey,

1193
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: I know you guys have twelve twelve, but I want

1194
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: to push five or six other business buildings for you guys.

1195
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: And they let me do about three more. So I

1196
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: got the element aspire for for the company. But then

1197
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: they were kind of like, we're gonna hold off and

1198
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: kind of but I was on the stage in my

1199
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: life where there was no holding back, like I'm like

1200
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: I have to go so and they didn't want me

1201
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: to do it. So that was the That was the push.

1202
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: That was the kind of like, Okay, I have to

1203
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: go do it. And the pool was I've always wanted

1204
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 1: to be entering and my father was entrepreneur. With my father,

1205
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: I never really saw him working for anybody. I remember

1206
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: helping him stuff envelopes for his business back in the

1207
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: day to go ahead, you know what I mean. So

1208
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: that was the pool of I've always wanted to control

1209
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: my income. I always wanted to be able to work remotely.

1210
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to travel when when I wanted to

1211
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: travel once I had enough money. And so there was

1212
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: the two things that made me do that. And then

1213
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: just the confidence in knowing that no matter what happens,

1214
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter because with business, I know that

1215
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: people aren't built like me. I've seen people full throughout

1216
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: life and situations that really weren't to me. Wasn't that tough?

1217
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: So I know like in this I can make it

1218
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: because I'm not going to fold. It's like there's no

1219
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: turning back like there's no backup plan, there's no none

1220
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: of that. So that always also gave me a confidence.

1221
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: We'll talk about how hard it is, though, because you

1222
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: make everything looks so easy from I mean, I don't

1223
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: think that I've ever seen you look stressed out. I'm

1224
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: sure you have been stressed out, but like I want

1225
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: to hear about the toughness that you felt and then

1226
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: how you actually didn't give up because you're successful, but

1227
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: it didn't just like, no, it's as hard as fun.

1228
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: Like it's I've been through three different business partners already,

1229
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: and I've had people robbed from me. I've met people

1230
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: leave and trying to see us. I've at people um

1231
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: steal from us. I have people um all you above.

1232
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: I've had things lose huge contracts. I've personally felt like

1233
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't good. So there's every day there's something happens

1234
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: and I'm just like I don't know if I'm belfast anymore,

1235
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: Like everything today this morning that happened and I'm like,

1236
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't know if I'm built for this.

1237
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like one of my key employees like Kylie, right,

1238
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: I'll keep it real, like you can use this or

1239
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: not use this, but um, she just recently we just

1240
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: recently part of Ways and she's somebody that was a

1241
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: huge piece of my company. She knows the end and

1242
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: out of my company. She knew a lot about the brand.

1243
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: Essentially somebody that we worked into our future, but it

1244
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: just didn't work out. So that was a huge piece

1245
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: that it hurt because we invested a lot of time

1246
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: out of energy ship like that. So those things like

1247
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: that happened, and then the next day we get one

1248
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: of the biggest contracts that we've ever gotten. So we're

1249
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: sad about that, then happy about that. Then you know

1250
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's like if you can be

1251
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: okay with accepting failure, things happen, like you just realize,

1252
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: like you have to be resilient and you just have

1253
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: to recognize that no matter what happens, you're gonna go

1254
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: through every single motion, but you just won't quit. Like

1255
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm literally going to die behind what I'm doing because

1256
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm never going to work for anybody. So for me,

1257
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: like what I'm building, what I'm creating, what I believe in,

1258
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: I'll end up probably dying fighting for what I'm doing

1259
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: or pushing what I'm doing because like there's nothing else

1260
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 1: like for me, I feel like right now, So that's

1261
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: just like that's the mentality you gotta have. It's like

1262
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: it's going to work. Like I don't think about failure

1263
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: much like to be honest with you, well, failure is

1264
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: part of it working, like you have to. Yeah, I

1265
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: don't even look failure. It's kind of like, yeah, I

1266
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: don't look at failure as failure. It's like if something

1267
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: doesn't yeah, it's it's the process. Like, Um, what does

1268
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: success for you? How would you define like I've made

1269
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: a win? Yeah, success for me is at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, I'm happy, like and I'm only happy

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Speaker 1: when I know I've done everything I can to reach

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Speaker 1: my full potential. So happiness fulfillment like when I feel

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Speaker 1: fulfilled when I feel like damn, like like I'm I'm

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01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: like I'm content with like what's happening right now in

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Speaker 1: my life. That feeling occurs like once every two months

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01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: or so, but in between time, it's like I'm always

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Speaker 1: working to find those happy feelings to find myself. That's

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01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: why goals are important for me. Writing my goals down

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01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: and um, writing those goals down when I'm in a

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Speaker 1: real happy space. So I'll go to the beach or

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: something like that to create my goals where I'm relaxed

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01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: and have clear thoughts so that those goals are really

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01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: what I want and not based off stress from my

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01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: business at the time wherever they be, and then push

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01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: towards those goals throughout the year and make sure that

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Speaker 1: I'm just leveling up and growth. I just got this

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01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: tablet on me. Actually, growth to me is the biggest

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01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: bottom Growth to me is what makes me happy. It's

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Speaker 1: what motivates me. If I'm growing spiritually, if I'm growing

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Speaker 1: um emotionally, if I'm growing financially, it's it makes me happy.

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Speaker 1: So if i can do that, I'm happy. So I'm

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01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: looking for growth constantly. What would you tell yourself at

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01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: twenty two? Like, what is it that you wish you

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01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: could go back and say to the kid that quit

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01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: the basketball team, um or quit school, you quit the

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01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: best team? I would say, don't leave anything on the table.

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Speaker 1: I feel like at that stage each I was I

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Speaker 1: was operating at capacity of my full potential. I feel

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Speaker 1: like right now I'm operating at eight percent capacity in

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01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: my full potential, and that my fifth year old was

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01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: probably gonna tell my thirty two year old thirty one

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01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: year old, So off is like go off, like go

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01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: all in and rest as you need to. But that's

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01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: what I would look back on because I look back

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01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I could have did a little

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01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: more and not in a negative way, but I'm just

1307
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: a learning way like damn, Okay, I could have went

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01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: harder there, Like there's times where I could have Okay,

1309
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: I could have pushed harder in no situation. So just

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Speaker 1: operating at my full potential. Well, how do you balance that? Well,

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01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: how do you balance working really hard and also having

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01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: rest and also having fun? Because I know you also

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01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: have fun? Yes, um, I balanced it by because you

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01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 1: you say no dates off all the time, like when

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: do you take? No days off? Doesn't mean no days

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01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: off of working out, like it could mean no days

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01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: off a party and know that like I don't specify

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01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: no days off. No days off could be can mean

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01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: whatever you wanted to be, Like, it's working on yourself.

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01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: So of going out that day and partying with your

1321
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: friends and drinking is what you need if you need

1322
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: that companionship, You need that friendship around you that that

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01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: week to fill your soul up. That's no days off.

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: That's you helping yourself reach your food, like your full potential,

1325
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: because that's gonna help you next week. Like I just

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01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: had a great week when my home girls like that,

1327
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: that relationship got stronger, Like I feel great this week,

1328
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: Like I got some new ideas from them, Like you know,

1329
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: so like no days off and like working on yourself

1330
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: straight up. So what would you tell somebody who's like, well,

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01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: what would you tell somebody who is like, there are

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: some dreams and things that I want to do. I

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01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: don't know if I can do them. I don't know

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01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: where to start. I say, immediately change your mindset about

1335
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: those dreams. It's I can do them, and I'm gonna

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01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: find where to start. Like the way you talk about

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01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: it to yourself is the way you're going to act

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01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: on it in the world essentially, So you have to

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: change the way you talk about it. Like it has

1340
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: to be. I have these dreams and I'm going this

1341
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: is how I'm going to get them done. There's no excuse,

1342
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: there's no like period. Yeah, and I well, I'll do

1343
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: a whole episode on positive mental attitude and all that

1344
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: and how that actually is one of the there are

1345
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: so many studies, and I'm sure you've heard of these,

1346
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: so many studies, especially in the world of like athletics

1347
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: and fitness, of the way how you are thinking about

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01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: something changes actually how it feels. So if I'm going

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01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: to go run a marathon and I'm like, this is

1350
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna fucking suck, it will suck and I probably will

1351
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: not do very well. But if I go into that

1352
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, this is gonna be fun. I

1353
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: can do this. I know I've trained for it. I'm

1354
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, And if I need to stop, I can.

1355
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: It's gonna be You're probably gonna enjoy it. And there

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01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: are studies done that when people say positive things to

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01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: themselves when they're working out, they rate it as harder,

1358
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: and they rate the distances that they run as longer

1359
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: when they when they say negative things, when they say

1360
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: positive they rate it as easier and more enjoyable. And

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01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: like that is not like the science, it's not wouldn't

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01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: make that up. So changing, I think that's great advice

1363
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: of like change your mindset, like start with your mindset

1364
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: and what you're thinking about you and what you're capable of.

1365
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: So well, I have one last question is there anything

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01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: else that you would want anybody to know about you

1367
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: will plug all your stuff and how people can connect. Yeah,

1368
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: we are. People are going to want to get to

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01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: know you now, and they should get to know you

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01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: what they're what I want people. This is not my

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Speaker 1: final question. This isn't my final question. I just didn't

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Speaker 1: know this. I have one more final question. Um is

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01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: that I'm not all work. It's like I have a

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01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: lot of fun and made this podcast may sound like

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01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: it's like everything has been like foot to the pedal,

1376
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: head down, not having fun. But you need a balance

1377
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: of life. You need to have a like a great balance,

1378
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: but you also need to once you commit to your

1379
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: once you commit to like a goal in the dream,

1380
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: you have to go all out, but you have to

1381
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: find time for yourself to have some self care or

1382
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: into make sure you're still embracing your family, make sure

1383
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: you making sure that you discover hobbies for yourself, because

1384
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: we get so lost sometimes that we don't even realize

1385
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: what our hobbies are anymore, like things like that. So

1386
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: just making sure that you know that I am talking

1387
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: about business and pushing to help out as a metal

1388
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Speaker 1: but in order to be like fully like like, I

1389
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: guess the happy person. You need to have like a

1390
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: balance of like going out, having fun with the homies,

1391
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: working your ass off, and yeah, just traveling, do whatever

1392
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Is there any hobbies or things about

1393
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: you that people wouldn't expect, like, do you have any

1394
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: like wild card facts that I would be like? What? Um,

1395
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: I've watched the entire um? Well god, but people are like,

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Speaker 1: will you watch that? I watch it now? One Tree Hill. No,

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01:08:53,760 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: he did not recently like wow, because it was but

1398
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: people think it's yeah like Lucas and Ate. No, that

1399
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: was the cool show. I thought it was cool, but

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01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: it was like not one black person that show. People

1401
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: like you watch that whole. I loved that show for

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01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 1: some reason. That funny. People like what okay? That? Um?

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01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: What else? Do you have any weird hobbies? Oh? No,

1404
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: or like not maybe weird? Wrong? Yeah, I actually so

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01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: to go to sleep for my entire life. I bought

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01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: my head. So it sounds weird, but like it is weird.

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: Actually doesn't sound weird. It is weird, but I so

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01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: like literally when like and I did my nephew he's

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01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: two years old, my sister's son, he does it now

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01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 1: and It's literally since I was in the crib to

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01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: go to sleep, I would like bump my head and

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01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 1: sometimes today I catch myself still doing it. It's like

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: because I have that's why I had. I had a

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01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: huge stuttern problem growing up essentially, and it was because

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: my my energy levels were so high. So anytime my

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Speaker 1: parents were trying to put me to bed, I would

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01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: be so like route up and active that like I

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01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 1: would try to try to find I would be slamming

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Speaker 1: my feet on the bed. I would be jump on

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Speaker 1: my head. And I still do it to this day,

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01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: which makes me like kind of like happy a little

1422
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: bit because it lets me know, like my energy levels

1423
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: are still extremely like like running rampant, you know what

1424
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean. So nobody really knows that except for like

1425
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: girls sleepover and they wake up in the middle night

1426
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: like what was like, Oh ship bad, I'm sorry, I

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: didn't know I still did this. Oh my god. People

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01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: can't see what you're doing when you say bump my head,

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01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: what are you doing? They can't see you doing that. Um,

1430
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: it's like tap my head against the pillow like like

1431
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: up and down just until like I fall asleep, because

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01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: it's like I'm not ready to go to bed. That

1433
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: is a weird fact. Thank you, Thank you. I feel

1434
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: like I know you better. Now. Okay, now, this is

1435
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: the final question that I wanted to ask. What do

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: you want if you could implant this in people's brains,

1437
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: how would you want people to see you? What would

1438
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: you want people to know about you? If they were

1439
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: going to say, I know Derek and this is what

1440
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: I know about him? Um, I want them. I want

1441
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: people to know that I truly truly believe outside of

1442
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: like flying with your fucking arms, like anything is possible

1443
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: if you write down the goals and you go and

1444
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: hundred percent sounds cliche and sounds like you hear it

1445
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: all the time, like going to you'll make a hundred

1446
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: percent of shots whatever, any corny lines you hear about that,

1447
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: But like I'm a true like you can look at

1448
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: my life is exactly. I'm a true example of somebody

1449
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: that's wrote something down that the odds were kind of

1450
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: stacked against that person, but it didn't matter because I

1451
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: went so hard at it and nobody could tell me

1452
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: that it was gonna work that then the world believed it.

1453
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: That you know what, like he is meant to do that?

1454
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: So even if the beginning you didn't quite know, like

1455
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: like I don't know. If it's like you write it

1456
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: down and you go so hard at it, the world

1457
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: will eventually just accept you for that. That's just who

1458
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: you are. That point so, and then you transform who

1459
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: you are as a person, and that's what happens. Anybody

1460
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: can do that with anything. Psycle star, you become a

1461
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: psycho star, like, well, you get to be that. What

1462
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: you're saying is you get to decide and you get

1463
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: to define who you are you are. Nobody else gets

1464
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: to do that. You know what. I was listening to

1465
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: something today and they said something about this, and what

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01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: I took from it is like, it is not your

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01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: job to explain or um really not your job to

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: do anything except beat yourself, and it is a world's

1469
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: job to catch up. Catch up. I love that you

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Speaker 1: said that. I think that's very important and I do

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Speaker 1: think that people get to define themselves and that's what

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01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: you're saying. But what I want to know is what

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01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: would you want people to know about you? Like, not

1474
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: what well, not what you want people to know, because

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01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: I think that is that is such a message that

1476
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: needs to be spread. But what do you want people

1477
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: to know about you and about who you are. Take

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01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: Away your business, take away the sports, because we started

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Speaker 1: this with my identity was basketball. And so now fast

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Speaker 1: forward your thirty one. You have all this stuff and

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01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: you have success, but that's not who you are. I

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01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: would I would not define you as that if somebody said, like,

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01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 1: tell me about him. So what do you want people

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01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 1: to know about you besides what you have done and

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 1: what you have? Who I am and who I try

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01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: to be for everybody around me, it's just a source

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01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: of motivation, um, a source of kind of like a

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: kind of like looking at a book and seeing like

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01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: you're kind of looking at a mirror actually and seeing themselves.

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Speaker 1: As far as like being flawed and being um just

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01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: not perfect, but still not allowing that to deter you

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01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: from like chasing down whatever you want. And then as

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01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: far as just personally, I'm just I don't know. I

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01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: feel like I'm just the same as everybody else. I

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: just have a relentless, like lying spirit about me. But

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01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 1: it's just like no matter what, it's just like whatever

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: I think about, whatever decided, it's going to happen. So

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: I think if I want people to know something about me,

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01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is, just like no matter what,

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01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: Like I just like the way my mind works just

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: kind of like an animal, Like it's like very just

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01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: like once I decide on something, it's it's all in.

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01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: So it's almost like the motivator inside because I would

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: describe you as a motivator, but it's the motivator inside

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01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: of you that is motivating other people. Like you are

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01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 1: just taking the energy that you feel towards yourself and

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01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: wanted to spread. It's like that's what you're doing, whether

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: it's in a workout class, that's all I want to do.

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01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't feel like I'm trying to do Trying

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01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: to do extra sometimes can can look not authentic, like

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01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: my job is not Like my job is to just

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01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: take my story and try to display it as many

1513
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: ways as I can to not boarding people, to not

1514
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: come off as too arrogant or cocky. But I always

1515
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: feel like, yo, I'm a black man doing this ship

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: in Nashville, and I have to like let people know

1517
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: if I can do this ship. Like I know it sounds,

1518
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: but I could do this ship here like anybody, any

1519
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: a black woman can do a white girl, a white boy.

1520
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: But like anybody can do it, and that's truly how

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: I feel. So I want people to level up and

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01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: I want people to reach their full potential. And if

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01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: I can put out any message in the world is

1524
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: I want everybody around me, everybody that's that I touched,

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: that hears me, to reach their full potential. And their

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01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: full potential doesn't necessarily have to be a work or

1527
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: business thing. It could be in your relationship with your wife,

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: for your husband, it could be with your kids. It

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01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: could be just with yourself, like reaching the full potential

1530
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: where you're understanding yourself, you're evaluating. So for me, it's

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01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: just that's what it's about, like just continuing to push

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01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: forward so that when I do have children and I

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01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: do have a wife, if I do have a wife,

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01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: like making sure I'm my best person for them, you

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,879
Speaker 1: know what. Right, So, yeah, you know, I'm very grateful

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01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,839
Speaker 1: for you, and I'm very grateful that you're I'm grateful

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01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: for you in general, and not for you to thank

1538
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 1: you and that like we cross fats and I was

1539
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: working to front desk and you walked into a random

1540
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: place and um, but I am grateful for you coming

1541
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 1: and talking today. And I could take that last thing

1542
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: you said, and we could keep talking for forty five

1543
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: more minutes, but it's Friday night and we're trying to

1544
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: like go live our lives. Um, so I just want

1545
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: to say thank you, and if you I'll plug all

1546
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: your stuff too. But how can people reach you if

1547
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: they want to get to know you or get to

1548
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: know you're what you do, Ladies, you can call uside um.

1549
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: You guys can follow me body by Billups on Instagram.

1550
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 1: Um on Facebook, it's just Derek Billips Jr. I'm also

1551
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: following City Fit Concierge on Instagram as well, guys, and

1552
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: we do a Capital Steps whatever. The instagram still city

1553
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: char Yeah, the instagram is still yeah. Um. And then

1554
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: we do a Capital Steps work out for the community

1555
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: right now every Sunday, um, so come check it out.

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: Ten am. All right, well, thank you and I appreciate you,

1557
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: and go follow him. And he's single, so you can

1558
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: reach out single single, but you better add value or

1559
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: don't come this way because I ain't got no time

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01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: to waste, man, I'm focusing on alright. So that's it

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01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: for this week. Guys. Remember follow us on social media.

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01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: Followed Derek at Body by Billups and at City Fit Concierge.

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01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: Share this with your people again. I'm at Three Courts

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01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: Therapy and then you can also follow at you Need

1565
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: Therapy And if you're in Nashville, if you live in

1566
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: Nashville or you're coming to visit, work out with Derek,

1567
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: reach out with him, sign up for a class. He's

1568
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: truly the best ever. I've been going to his classes

1569
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: and his workouts since he started, and he just keeps

1570
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: getting better. Other than that, guys have a wonderful week

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