1 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Same song, same to Marco far but I am not 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Miles Simmons. No, Miles Simmons is off to the Las 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Vegas Review Journal. Congratulations Miles. He'll be covering the Raiders already, is, 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: in fact, splitting his time between covering Antonio Brown's feet 5 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: and AB's helmets. How dumb is that whole story? Well, 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: not stupid of Miles to go wonderful opportunity. Stupid is 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: that story? But that's what he landed on to begin 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: his tenure. We look forward to the Reunion Super Bowl 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: podcast with Miles Simmons here in a couple months. Super Bowl. Yeah, 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: you mean the Raiders are gonna make it Rams Raiders 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: and we'll have him back on then. Okay, that'll be fun. 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: That's the extent of what I know about Between the Horns, 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: and we'll just go from there and DeMarco you of 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: course correct me. No fun. I mean, look, a lot 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: of people have asked, are we coming back? Are we 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: doing an Between the Horns? It's been what three weeks 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: we did the last one in camp? Yeah, Intervine. Yeah, 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: a lot has gone down. I mean it's football. I 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: mean you have to move on, teams change you said 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: it and that's just the way it goes. So let's 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: just jump into it. Man. I mean, you your two 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: games into the preseason. Now you're owing two. We're getting 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: good looks from a lot of young guys, two and three, 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: some some depth guys. I think, if you're like me, 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: and I think you are, you already have your fifty 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: three man roster there with a few exceptions. Right, there's 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 1: some battles going on. But I like the way Sean McVay. 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: I like the way this team approaches preseason. You protect 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: your starters, so to speak, and you get a lot 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: of work for a lot of young guys. Would you agree? 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: I would, And you're halfway there, and it's strange to 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: think that in about a week's time you're gonna largely know. 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna know what that fifty three min and even 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: forty six man roster looks like. So coming up on 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: this edition, we can obviously talk about whatever DeMarco has 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: on his mind, but I kind of jotted down let's 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: explore the rams fifty three man roster decisions on the bubble, 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: who's in, who's out? With basically some in practice scrimmages 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: and then one more full speed preseason game to be had. 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: But let's face it, by next Thursday, if you're on 41 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: the field, chances are the decisions probably already been made. Yeah, 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: in Houston. And that's the thing. Some guys I thought, 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: especially in the fourth quarter, like Dakota Allen is a 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: guy that you may you may have had thoughts coming 45 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: out of Oakland, right, and then how he played in 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Hawaii in the fourth quarter, I thought he was the 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: best player. Now Michah Kaiser is out, there is a 48 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: job open, or at least people are gonna have to 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 1: move up a step, so he would be a guy 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: I would say take a second or third look at, 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, defensive tackle wise, same thing. I thought Boogie 52 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: Roberts played pretty well when he wasn't making mistakes or 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: doing bonehead things, but when he really did go after 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: the passer or get into pass wars moves, he was 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: really really impressive. So another guy you might have written 56 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: off that you might have to give a second or 57 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: third look to. So that's what preseason is all about, 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, changing opinions, solidifying opinions. I still think we 59 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: have a long way to go, but you know, certain 60 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: guys are still hanging in there. Fighting for a roster spot. 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: All right, So fifty three man roster considerations, plus why 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald thinks this defense should be elite in twenty 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: nineteen and looking back on why maybe it wasn't a 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: year ago. Plus which fan base more concerned with their 65 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: quarterback after a tough week, Arizona or San Francisco. Plus 66 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: if we have time, a quick word on the Broncos. 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Who the Ram's face this Saturday at the coliseum. But 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: to Marco, if it's okay with you, I want to 69 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: start with that injury to Mike A. Kaiser that your reference, 70 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: because I think it opens up the conversation. This is, 71 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: to my eye, the last starting role to be resolved 72 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: on either side of the football. You could argue knows 73 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: with Sebastian Joseph Day and Gains, but I think we 74 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: see how that's shaping up and both are going to 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: be a part of the roster. So if I can 76 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: ask you just to lay out what is the mic 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: linebacker in this defense and in what situations would Kaiser 78 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: have been on the field this season? Any question? It's 79 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: a three four defense, right, Wade Phillips loves a three four. 80 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: That inside linebacker in my opinion is basically your fourth 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: defensive lineman just backed up. That's his role in the defense. 82 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: He is basically a run thug, a guy that's taken 83 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: on blocks, getting off blocks, making tackles on running backs, 84 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: and then when need be dropped, dropping back into coverage. 85 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: That's just part of the job. But he's got to 86 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: be tough, he's got to be physical, and if not, 87 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: you've got to be fast as hell. That's why Mark 88 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: Barron was effective at that role. He can just outrun 89 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: you too, let's say the perimeter. But when they did 90 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: run at him, when they did get guys in his face, struggled, 91 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: that's just a product of being a light in the 92 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: pants type guy. Micah Kaiser was a little bit different, 93 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: a little bit shorter, but a lot more compact and 94 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: a lot more explosive, So he was more in the 95 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: traditional role of a three four inside linebacker. So we 96 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: saw it. I mean I saw it when it happened 97 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: during the game. I saw him reach for a shoulder. 98 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: I thought it might have been a shoulder, and then 99 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: he kept trying to get some blood going in that arm. 100 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Something was wrong, and then we saw him walk up 101 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: the tunnel. So it's a shame that had happened, But 102 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: that's what happens in ball man. He's down, next guy 103 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: up now. So Mark Barron played about fifty seven percent 104 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: of defensive snaps last year. If that's kind of the 105 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: the name that they're trying to replace, If not the 106 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: rule specifically, would it be fair to conclude that I 107 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: think that replacement, whether it's Mica or Bryce Haik or whomever, 108 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: was probably gonna play less on defense in terms of 109 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: snaps and downs. Oh yeah, then Mark Barron did, especially 110 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: in this defense the way we think it's going to go. Now, 111 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: anything could happen. We don't know. Wade Phillips could throw 112 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: us all a curveball, but it's going to be a 113 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: lot of three safety looks. Right. We see a lot 114 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: with Taylor Rapp in the box. Those safeties have been 115 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: in the box, and I think that's all the rage. 116 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: But at some point you're gonna have to start the 117 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: game or it's gonna be third and short or fourth 118 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: and short. You're gonna have to have that inside linebacker. 119 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: So you'd like it to be a little more physical 120 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: than a Mark Barron, right, so you can actually stop 121 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: guys on a fourth and one third and one. But 122 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: you know, if not, you can get by with running 123 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: those guys through gaps. You've seen that before and put 124 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: all the onus on the bigs upfront to hold people up. 125 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that as well too. So a couple 126 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 1: of thoughts. One, I was a bit concerned that Mica Kaiser, 127 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: despite the offseason program, hadn't fully solidified that job yet. Yeah, 128 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: Bryce Hager was still in the mix, and I get 129 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: it that role has to be earned, not just given 130 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: because you were a draft pick. But I also am 131 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: with you in that I think the response the solution 132 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: to replacing a projected inside linebacker starter is not just 133 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: knicks man up in the in the general sense that 134 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: it would be. I think there will be creative solutions, 135 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: and that includes maybe opening the door to even more 136 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: safety's playing in the box to replace him. Oh, no doubt. 137 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: But there's there's got to be that inside guy. There's 138 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: got to be that that that strength, that om, that physicality. 139 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, remember Clay Matthews is on this team. 140 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: He was a name I had there too, and he's 141 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: played inside before so perfectly fine sliding over just like 142 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay used him. I loved it when he said, 143 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm used or I'm going to be used the same 144 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: way Green Bay did. Great. That means you're gonna have 145 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: to play in some inside too. There's some other guys 146 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: that I like in that spot. And this was brought 147 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: up a few weeks ago, and it's not so far fetched. 148 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: Sam Sitebocomb, if there's a role needed, Hey, why don't 149 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: you stay in here just for first and second down 150 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: and play the run. Be physical. Natrez Patrick, a guy 151 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: we both like, can slide over. I think he played 152 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: inside at Georgia, can play that spot. So if it's 153 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a part time situation, a part time starter, 154 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: you can fill that in with a few guys if 155 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: your roster holes. I took a quick glance at the 156 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: early schedule just to get a sense of which of 157 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: these teams are like Downhill utilize a fullback running team, 158 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: and you don't see San Francisco, don't see Seattle until 159 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: down your schedule a little bit. Panthers no fullback, Saints 160 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: fullback less than twenty percent of the time. Brown's no 161 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: fullback backs no fullback. Now that's not the only situation 162 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: which you're my linebackers on the field, but I'm just 163 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: saying there is a little bit of wiggle room, it 164 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: looks like on this schedule to get it figured out 165 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: how you're going to attack right, more spread out, maybe 166 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: less downhill running offenses. But if they do slide that 167 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: extra tight end or that fullback that's masquerading in an 168 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: eighty number right into the backfield, and you've got to 169 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: have somebody to take on those whams. You know, I 170 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: think safeties can do it. We saw Baron do it. 171 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: But you know, when these guys get, you know, engulfed 172 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: at the point of attack, there's just no way out. 173 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: If a guard gets to you and your safety, there's 174 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: no way to go. So if you need a bigger guy, 175 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: I'd like a bigger guy to fill that role. If 176 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: if if you will sure, I mean you need to 177 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: have it. I just get the sense my hunch is 178 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: that they're more inclined to go small quote unquote goes 179 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: small play extra safeties, play hybrid type linebackers, essentially daring 180 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: teams to run at them. Can you can you get 181 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: four to five yards per carry of the course of 182 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: an entire game without turning it over? If so, and 183 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: then you'll keep our offense off the field, you might 184 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: have a chance. If not, we're gonna be past you. 185 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: Then Eric Henderson, the d line coach, is really going 186 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: to earn his money because these bigs and Sebastian, Joseph Day, 187 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: Greg Gaines, who I think is he's really coming along. 188 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: What I said this on the pregame show. Once he 189 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: gets his mits on you, you go backwards, you know, 190 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: against your will. He's just that big, that strong, and 191 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: he's got some quicks to him, so they're gonna If 192 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna go small seventy percent of the time, then 193 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: those bigs in front of you have got to do 194 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: their job. Yeah, you've really got to control grass. So 195 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: losing Mike Kaiser for an uncertain amount of time, but 196 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: it's going to be significant. And despite losing Justin Lawler, 197 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: those are two projected fifty three man roster spots that 198 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: you no longer have. Despite being down too, I still 199 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: think the bubble decisions are going to be quite a 200 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: chore here. And my mind is never perfect. But like 201 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: I don't recall in the first two years of the 202 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: Sean mcfah era having this much consternation about losing a 203 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: training camp player to the waiver wire. If that makes sense. 204 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: This feels like the deepest and most talented training camp 205 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: bubble that I've experienced. Am I wrong? I'm with you, 206 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: especially with these corners and safeties, and you know, a 207 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: hard knocks. I don't know how you feel about hard 208 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: knocks necessary evil, it's fun. You still watch it. It's 209 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: hit or miss, hit or miss. I didn't particularly like 210 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: the RAM season. Okay, fair enough. I think I jumped 211 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: off the bandwagon a while ago. But I get it. 212 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: It's it's out there and you have to do it 213 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: if you're chosen. But I would love to be in 214 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: the room when And this is just a big hypothetic. 215 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: Let's just take one of the safeties and I don't 216 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: want to foreshadow who it might be, but can you 217 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: imagine telling these guys that you didn't do enough to 218 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: make this team? You know what I mean? Like, we 219 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: just can't keep you. And if that player asks why, 220 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: you better have a good damn reason, because these guys 221 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: have all played their butt off. Some guys make it easy. 222 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: You know, you keep making mistakes pre snap penalties or 223 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: you blow assignments and they just can't trust you. That's 224 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: an easy cut. But the guy that does everything right 225 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: and is doing it as well as the guys you 226 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: consider starters. That's a hard cut. That's what I want 227 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: to hear, you know what I mean. And I told 228 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: you this about Dick Vermill. Dick Vermill was cool with 229 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: his players. He even brought in a guy that he 230 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: cut when we played Philadelphia before we won the Super 231 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: Bowl that year. He brought in a guy that he 232 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: cut in training camp. And he always said this, if 233 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: you can play and I can't keep you, I'll make 234 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: sure I find you a job somewhere right And for 235 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: the most part, he was true to his word. And 236 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: I think some listeners might say, well, the Rams practice 237 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: squad is gonna be awesome this year, and I do 238 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: think they will be able to formulate a nice practice squad. 239 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: But I'm not a fallback on the practice squad guy 240 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. One, I think some of 241 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: the names that we're about to talk about are going 242 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: to find other work right away. Some guys when they 243 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: hit practice squad, they're gone. And then secondly, you're a 244 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: practice squad is everyone's practice squad, so it's nice to 245 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: have them running your scout team and being familiar with 246 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: who you are and being able to continue to coach 247 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: them up. Yeah, but they're a phone call away from 248 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: being a Pittsburgh Steeler or a Tampa Bay Buccaneers on 249 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: the roster, right Yeah. Um so, just being unrealistic and greedy, 250 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: I jotted down thirteen names that I would feel badly 251 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: about no longer seen in horns. And you already mentioned 252 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: another one, Boogie, who I did not have on this list. 253 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: So you may even want to go further, but I'll 254 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: give you linebacker, corner, safety, and running back. It was 255 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: a it was a rookie that he was killing Bogie 256 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: in Hawaii in Hawaii, but man, did he look good. Yeah. 257 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: Some of the roles that you've talked about so far. 258 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: Of course, linebacker, and there I've got Oboe, Natrez, Patrick Dakota, Alan, 259 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: Trevan Young, Travan Howard, Landis Durham with two sacks already 260 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: this preseason, and Josh Carroway corner, Darius Williams, Kevin Peterson, 261 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: Dante Dion have all flashed. Safety Stephen Parker, and a 262 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: player you drafted to be a special team's ace, Nick Scott, 263 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: and running back John Kelly. That's thirteen. And you may 264 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: want a layer in a fourteenth and boogie. Of that group, 265 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: I think there are only maybe seven roster spots and 266 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: maybe just one active game day spot. I think that's 267 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: fair too um for some guys. Wow, it's it's it's obvious. 268 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: I'd like to see you with the starting unit. And 269 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: what I mean like Natrez Patrick, Yeah, how you love 270 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: that with starters around you. I would love to see 271 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: you rotate in when the big guys are in, when 272 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald is actually out there, let me see and 273 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: let me see you against a top flight offense to 274 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: see if it translate against their starters, against their starters, 275 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: but against what we've seen, my goodness, he's been the 276 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: most physical guy out there outside of the new and 277 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: improved Dakota Allen. Yeah. I think what's also at the 278 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: crux of this to Marco is if you're this loaded 279 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: as we feel the Rams are internally, do you have 280 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: the luxury of devoting two roster spots on your active 281 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: forty six to special teamers? And what I mean by 282 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: that is Joe Joe Natson right now is a devoted 283 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: special teamers. Yes, he caught a touchdown, but like on 284 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: game day, he's not going to get a receiver rep 285 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: unless it's one of those sprint Yeah. And can I 286 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: say something about you did you see that touchdown reception? 287 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: Did you see where he caught it? His toes were 288 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: like on the one inch line, right? I think I 289 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: called it a yard deep in the end zone. It 290 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: may have been four inches knocked him into the zone. 291 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: I watched that like four times, laughing my butt up, 292 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: like he drove him into the end zone with the football. Wow, 293 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: that's funny. Yeah. But my question is essentially, if you 294 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: have forty six up on game day, Yeah, you've got 295 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: your three specialists, plus a kick returner and maybe Scott 296 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: as like a slater type role. Like right, are you 297 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: gonna have five out of your forty six basically ailing 298 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: one role. If any team can do it, it's this team. Now. 299 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: You have to be as fortunate and good and lucky 300 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: as you were a season ago when you how many 301 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: offensive players actually played, like twenty seven, like the lowest 302 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: in the league. It was the same guys every week. 303 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: You can do that if you're that lucky. But I mean, 304 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: I think we're thinking of depth now, so it would 305 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: be hard to But on the front end, it's going 306 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: to cost you someone like Kevin Peterson or Darius Williams 307 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: or Obnquo. Right, if any team can do it, it 308 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: would be this team, or at least last year's version 309 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, it would be hard. I think it 310 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: bears mentioning here, though. If you're agonizing over members fifty one, 311 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: fifty two, fifty three on your roster, that's a pretty 312 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: good sign. That's a nice place to be, isn't it, 313 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: your Belichick. I'm dead serious. This is what they do. 314 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: This is what the good teams do. Yeah, I mean 315 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: that's you know, I heard something. It's funny and I 316 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: won't mention his name, but I said it. On the 317 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: way out. I saw him. We cross pass as I 318 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: was going to the bus after the game, and I said, wow, 319 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: you've got a decision to make a corner and he stopped, 320 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: thought about it, spun around and said, you don't cut corners, 321 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: and he kept walking. Makes sense, right, And I agree 322 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: with him. As many corners as I can keep, the better. 323 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: If they're all good, great, find a way to keep 324 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: them all. So if it costs me a specialist, then 325 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: so be it. I'll figure out how to return kicks 326 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: and bunts. You raise a good point, because I think 327 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: you would envision all these decisions being made in a vacuum, 328 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: like is this individual good enough to be on our roster? Yes? 329 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: Keep him, no, let him hit the way a wire. 330 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: But I also think you need to self ensure. And 331 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is if there are positions 332 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: like inside linebacker, or you're uncertain which direction you'll ultimately 333 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: be going, it might be worth keeping an extra body there. 334 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: If you're aging at a certain position, like you might be, 335 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: say with wett All at safety, with talib at corner, 336 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: you might keep an extra body there right, not only 337 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: just in case this year, but also planning for your future. 338 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: And I think some of those kind of peripheral influences 339 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: have to play into the decision, don't you. Well it does, 340 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: and I think it goes back to the start of 341 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: this conversation about being multiple on defense and going small 342 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: and watching how guy have been trained, watching how the 343 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: defensive line goes about their work and what they're being 344 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: asked to do, and then you don't see it as 345 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: much in preseason because you don't want to tell your hands. 346 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: So there are many ways to cover up being light 347 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: in the pants at linebacker and the rams have been 348 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: doing that for what two and a half seasons now, 349 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: so they're comfortable going there. So if you don't need, 350 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: if you don't feel like you need to keep as 351 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: many linebackers, if you want to go heavy at safety, 352 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: because that's the way you're going, great. The safety depth 353 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: on this team is good, and like you said, like 354 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: he said, without I would never want to give up 355 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: good corners if they can play for me. And you know, 356 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: didn't we go through a time when you lost both 357 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: of your starters and you were filling in. I want 358 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: to keep as many corners as possible, especially in this league. 359 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: I know we can't or won't delve too deep into this, 360 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: but I'll just mention it. In passing, if you have 361 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: positions of strength, those are also positions you might be 362 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: able to trade from. This is true, and it's tough 363 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: to get things like that done this time of year 364 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: when every general manager in front office is waiting to 365 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: see what rosters get trimmed. And so that made be 366 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: the default position. But who knows. I mean, I don't 367 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: think either of us would be shocked if a trade 368 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: was cobbled together here in the next say, eight days. Oh, 369 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: especially if guys keep getting hurt, and that's just the 370 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: way it goes. Um. Funny. I think I got more 371 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: texts and tweets once Michah Kaiser went down right and 372 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: we found out it was the torn peck. What about 373 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Mason Foster? You know, I mean, when there's when there's 374 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: a need, they'll call teams. There's there's always going to 375 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: be enough people out there to fill rosters, good spots, 376 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: and if you have a dearth of talent, they're gonna 377 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: be calling you trying to get some of those guys. 378 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: To your point about offensive stability a moment ago, it's 379 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: no coincidence that this conversation so far and the roster 380 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: decisions has been centered on the defensive side of the 381 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: football and filling out largely the back end of your roster. 382 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald obviously not in uniform, but was with us 383 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: in Hawaii and actually joined us in the second half 384 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: of that broadcast. I know you want to comment on 385 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: the shirt he was wearing and the jewelry he was wearing, 386 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: and what his biceps look like when I closed my 387 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: eyes and think like he looks the way I think 388 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: I look, you know, right, wow, Um, But we'll hear 389 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: from him in just a second. But I kind of 390 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: want to lead us to this, which is if the 391 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Rams have four to fied their defense and have some 392 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: great either you know, late round draft options or undrafted 393 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: free agents that could make this roster, how far then 394 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: can that go towards making them an elite defense. First, 395 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: let's start with Aaron individually and what kind of season 396 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: he expects for himself now being in training camp this 397 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: time around, this season, this should be my best season yet, 398 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: just because you know, I'm here in camp this season, 399 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: so you know, and no and no more coming coming 400 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: back a little rusty. So we're gonna be in full 401 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: goat and in great condition. And then we got great 402 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: coaches that's you know, coaching us up up and cleaning 403 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: things up. So I'm excited about this season. We know 404 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: that you can dominate individually, Can this defense dominate? Can 405 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: they become a top five defense in the National Football League? 406 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: Here in twenty nineteen. You know that we got all 407 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: the players. Obviously, we got the coaches that pit us 408 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: in great position, but no veteran presence that we grow 409 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: them with Clay you know, and weddowed them guys. So um, 410 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonnacited to bring them along and in 411 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: this in his defense And like I said, these guys 412 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: have been doing it for a long time, having a 413 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: lot of success, so things I can learn from from them. So, UM, 414 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like we were in a position better. 415 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: Say I agree, Um, I think you do have a 416 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: chance to be better. Um, you have to get that 417 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: nose tackle spot solidified. And I mean between Gains and 418 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: Joseph Joseph Day, I think between those two you'll find 419 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: a starter or you might be platooning every single series 420 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: with those guys. I think they're coming along just great. 421 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: But if you get that figured out, and I think, 422 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: I think we know what the scheme is going to be, 423 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: especially with how they're playing tailor rap and what his 424 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: ability could be. So but when I look at this 425 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: depth chart, and you know, I get past Brockers, I 426 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: get past Sebastian Joseph Day, and then you go to 427 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: Donald Fowler Junior and Matthews, I think that's going to 428 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: be the tip of the spear. Those are gonna be 429 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: the guys that really create havoc that really, I guess 430 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: opens things up for the defense and open things up 431 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: for this secondary. So yeah, I think they can be 432 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: better as long as everyone improves and takes a step forward. 433 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: Using words like better, I'm naturally inclined to look back 434 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: on last year, and I'm still have two minds about 435 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen defense. On the one hand, the metric 436 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: that I trust much most DVOA courtesy of Football Outsiders, 437 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: had them as the eighteenth ranked defense last season. Ninth 438 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: against the pass, so a top ten defense against the 439 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: pass despite losing a key to lead for a good 440 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: chunk of the season. Twenty seventh against the run. So 441 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: that's both good enough to get you to the Super 442 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Bowl and statistically not good enough to stand pat and money. 443 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: And that's despite having the defensive player of the Year 444 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: in the heart of that defense, who had an all 445 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: time Hall of Fame caliber season, no doubt. Well, think 446 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: about it, when Jared and Todd and the receivers were 447 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: really rolling right it was. It's so familiar when the 448 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: greatest show on turf took off. You couldn't stop that. 449 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: So the best way to beat us, and beat this 450 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: current team is to keep the defense on the field 451 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: and drive them down the field and drain clock right 452 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: running the football effectively. This is why I think you 453 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: have a chance to be better because some of the 454 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: guys upfront are younger, They're hungrier, they're less apt to 455 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: ease end to games versus go out and attack right away, 456 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: that mentality that we used to always say. I wish 457 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: the Rams defense would start the game the way they 458 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: finish it, because they always finish strong if you finish. 459 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: If you start that way, you have a chance to 460 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: move up the rankings, so to speak. So with a 461 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: younger defense, with guys that are looking to Aaron as 462 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: for motivation, I think you'd really do have a chance 463 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: to be better on defense than you were a year ago. 464 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: That's a good way of framing it. For the twenty 465 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: eighteen group, they were clutch. Yeah, they were at their 466 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: best when their best was required, whether it's coming up 467 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: with a sack or a tip or a pick. They 468 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: weren't statistically consistently good enough to be elite, and this 469 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: year I think they could be both. I think they 470 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: could be opportunistic. I think they could wreak havoc. I 471 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: think they can create sacks, tackles for lost turnovers, but 472 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: also be among the top five to ten defenses statistically. 473 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: Not that it matters across the entire NFL. Well, I 474 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: think Fowler's going to get it so and I think 475 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: Aaron's always going to go get it, and Clay Matthews 476 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: is going to get it, so those numbers are going 477 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: to go up. I think the rotation of young guys 478 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: that we just mentioned that are going to be either 479 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: nose tackles or inside linebackers, I think they're going to 480 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: be much improved and younger. So I think stat wise, 481 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: you're definitely going to be better there. And if you 482 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: can get teams in a position to where you can 483 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: just rush the passer of the offense is scoring. We 484 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: just mentioned the guys that are coming to get you, 485 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: so I think you'll have a chance to be better 486 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: stat wise than you were a year ago. But last 487 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: year's defense, once they figured out what was needed, they 488 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: gave you exactly that need to take away you got it. 489 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: Need to stop you got that too. It just took 490 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: a quarter and a half to get there. It's to me, 491 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: it's a wild blend of motivations, really good good motivations. 492 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: But you know you can look at it individually, whether 493 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: it's Clay Matthews or Eric Weddle, Like trying to cement 494 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: their legacies, go out on I knowe at the tail 495 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: ends of their career, maybe win a championship. Other players, 496 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: whether it's John Johnson or Corey Littleton or Marcus Peters 497 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: or Dante Fowler, they're playing for generational money. I mean, 498 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: they're playing for that next big contract that completely changes 499 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: their lives and the lives of their children and grandchildren. Right. 500 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: So three guys, And I know, I know that's a 501 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: not a very we not me thing to say, but 502 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: let's face it, like contract years matter in terms of 503 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: performance and availability in the support that we love. If 504 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: you're a coach, a coordinator, this is what you want. 505 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: You want guys on the verge of generational money. It's 506 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: all out there, and you think cornerback has one. Marcus 507 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: Peters is probably thinking that way, you'll get the best 508 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: out of him, not that he was taking a year off. 509 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: Corey Littleton is thinking that way, and Dante Fowler is 510 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: thinking that way, and Aaron Donald is thinking, like you said, 511 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: championship and all this is he's playing Canton, right, He's 512 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: all this is playing every defensive tackle who's ever worn 513 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: a helmet. And Eric Wettle needs what to be considered 514 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: as a Hall of Fame guy. He needs a ring ring, 515 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: so he's still here. Right, So all this comes together 516 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: in one season. And so when you ask, and you 517 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: ask Aaron, and you ask me, can they be better? Absolutely? 518 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: Look at the motivations on this defense and think about 519 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: coaching wise too. Tell me the Rams aren't lucky to 520 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: have Aubrey pleasant. Does he make guys better or what? 521 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: Every single guy that comes through here as a corner 522 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: gets better no matter what. So, yes, there's a lot 523 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: of motivations for this defense to be special this year. Yeah, 524 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: and finished on their highest note. In some ways. The 525 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: great shame of the Super Bowl, aside from not winning 526 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: and having that ring in house already, is that one 527 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: of the great defensive performances of last season gets overshadowed 528 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: in a losing effort. All right, To wrap things up, 529 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: a couple of just peripheral things. I want to get 530 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: your thoughts on, Jimmy g or Kyler Murray. Which fan 531 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: base is having more buyer's remorse about their quarterback? In 532 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: case you're not attuned to these stories, Garoppolo through five 533 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: consecutive interceptions in practice before traveling to Denver, then posted 534 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: a zero quarterback rating in his first game back since 535 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: tearing his ACL preseason understandable, but his first fourth rows 536 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: were all touched by Broncos offenders. One was picked, another 537 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: should have been picked and returned for a touchdown. As 538 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: for Murray, he was brilliant in his first start against 539 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: the Chargers, then struggled mightily against the Raiders three for 540 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: eight twelve yards, sacked twice. If you were just an 541 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: objective observer, who would you be more confident in going 542 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: to this year as your quarterback? Jimmy g or Kyler Murray, Murray. 543 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: I would the best athletes ever to be drafted number 544 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: one when you think about it, drafted in the first 545 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: round in baseball and football. So I think every team 546 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: would have taken him, you know, at number one, if 547 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: you if you needed the quarterback that year. I think 548 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: Jimmy g is we're still trying to figure out. You 549 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: seem like you have serious doubts trying to figure out 550 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: what he is. I mean, is he just someone's imagination 551 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: run wild? You know, you saw something in him and 552 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: you thought he's going to be the guy, and you 553 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: you know a little bit premature that still could be 554 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: out there. So I would say the forty nine ers 555 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: and beyond him, what's there? You know, That's what I mean. 556 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: You really need him to play well for them to 557 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: be good. You saw what happened to them when injured 558 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: last season. I do think the offense is more complete 559 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: around Garoppolo, and the fact that they have a proven 560 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: play caller in this league as their head coach in 561 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: their OC in San Francisco gives Garoppolo the advantage. Speaking 562 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, we've got Joe Flacco and the Broncos coming 563 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: to the Colosseum. First of all, I can't wait to 564 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: see what the renovated coliseum looks like. Hope many of 565 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: you will join us there. I saw the picture of it. 566 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Wow it looks great. Yeah, yeah, I had somebody had 567 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: to tell me. Is that the Coloseum? Like? Wow, that 568 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: looks cool. Can't wait to see that. We've been living 569 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: off renderings for so long. Now we can actually go 570 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: check out our new digs, at least for one more 571 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: season before we see our real new digs. You know what, 572 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: I can't say this enough. Enjoy that, Enjoy that. The 573 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: rams in the Colosseum, this is it, this is it. 574 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of history that goes through there. So 575 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: what one preseason game? Right? Seven? Regular season games? Okay, 576 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: so eight? I would like to play ten more games 577 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: in that historic house on the preseason, seven, regular season, 578 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: two postseason. I love it. I'm with you. Let's play ten. 579 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Kind of make that rallying hashtag for this season. Anyway, 580 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: about Joe Flacco. I found this interesting from Mike Freeman's 581 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: column this week. The quarterbacks not named Peyton Manning who 582 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: have played for the Broncos under John Elway, one of 583 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. They've combined for a record 584 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: of thirty three and thirty eight. How about this list? 585 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow, Trevor Simeon, Brockos Wilder, Case Keen and Paxton 586 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: Lynch and Kyle Orton. That's a lot of money, But 587 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: there's some of those names. Elway. Their bank accounts aren't hurting, 588 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: but their win loss record is. Is that old John Elway? 589 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: Those are his guys guy under his leadership that have 590 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: started behind center. Well, you know that actually makes sense. 591 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: I think if I was John Elway, I'd make sure 592 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: that I'd be the only best quarterback game to come 593 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: out of the area. Yeah, I keep selecting the wrong guys, 594 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: But I think Flacco looks good if if I'm being honest, 595 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: and I'm not judging this solely based on what he 596 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: did against the forty nine ers on Monday, by the way, 597 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: a short week to go Monday home against SF two 598 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: at the Rams on Saturday. But we saw him in 599 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: person last year. I mean he can still spin it. Yeah, 600 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: Joe can beat you. Yeah, you know, I don't when 601 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: you start talking about elite and elite and ranking quarterbacks, 602 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: he may be midpack or lower, but when you're facing 603 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: him on Sunday, that guy's good enough to beat you. 604 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. If you don't get to him. 605 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: DeMarco just low key dropped Joe Flacco and elite in 606 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: the same simet it. I'm just saying the last ten 607 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: years usually don't have him on the elite list, But 608 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: on game day, you you're concerned, I would go farther 609 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: than that. I would say that he would be considered 610 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: by most observers in like the bottom half, if not 611 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: the bottom third, of starting quarterbacks in the league going 612 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: into this season. Fair enough. It just depends on who 613 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: you have starting for you. And I'm not saying that 614 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: to an indictment on Joe necessarily so much as I 615 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: think the stability and the high level of achievement and 616 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: then those playing deep into their careers and into their 617 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: forties creates the most accomplished, stable crop of quarterbacks that 618 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: maybe the league has ever seen. I'm with you, and 619 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: if Eli Manning and Joe Flacco are now champions in 620 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: the bottom third of those rankings, in the bottom tier, 621 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: however you want to slice it, Yeah, that's pretty impressive 622 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: in terms of where we're at at the quarterback, no doubt. 623 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: Floco versus Rogers, I'm taking Rogers, flocco versus Brady, I'm 624 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: taking Brady. But if you're starting case keenom okay, push, 625 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: maybe the advantages on the other side. So that's what 626 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean, depends on who you have. Keep making money 627 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: Casey anyway and anywhere you can right. Absolutely any final 628 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: thoughts that what topics do we not get to on 629 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: this edition of Between the Horn fun stuff pull Off? 630 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: You don't want to, you know, kill quarterbacks. They frown 631 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: upon that Troy Reader, but his new name is Ivan Drago. Yeah, 632 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: Troy Ivan Drago Reader. If he dies, he dies. I 633 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: love the way this guy plays another guy. I wish 634 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: that you can just keep four special teams. I mean, 635 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: he hustles all over the field, So a lot of guys, 636 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a tough cut um And there's 637 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: more to come. There's another preseason. There's two left, so 638 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: we'll see and a lot of strange things can happen. 639 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: But even though you lost, I thought you played better 640 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: than a week ago. And that's what you need as 641 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: far as preseason and getting ready for September, which is 642 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: all that matters. Yeah, I mean I don't want these 643 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: roster decisions to get any easier, certainly not because of 644 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: injuries in terms of the position groups ahead of them. Yeah, 645 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: but I also want these guys to continue to show out, 646 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: especially for the home audience, and I do hope that 647 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: a good number of them end up on the Rams 648 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: practice squad because inevitably those in that group of ten 649 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: are are gonna contribute over the course of sixteen games. Oh, 650 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: I forgot. I wanted to mention this before we go. 651 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: I love the fact that Jim Oldmbi's getting work, and 652 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: Edwards is getting work, and Evans is getting work. Guys 653 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: you are going to depend on as far as depth. 654 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: But there is a part of me that's wishing that 655 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: it is note Boom and Allan taking those beats, because 656 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: they did kind of get house by Dallas's defensive line. 657 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: They were all over him. I wish that was Allan 658 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: and note Boom taking those Those are valuable lessons when 659 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: you get hit with a what I quote unquote the 660 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: Marinelli spend. Every guy, everybody that coaches that had been crazy. Yes, 661 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: everybody that's been coached by Rod Marinelli knows that moving. 662 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: Does that move and he hit Jamil Denby with that 663 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: and send him flying. I wish that was note Boom, 664 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: just to learn and see what that feels like, so 665 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: you can set against it the next time. You know 666 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: what I mean I do, and I think spinning it forward, 667 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: you would like to see Miller and Chub test the 668 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: metal of that group of that offensive line once or 669 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: twice before it happens in Carolina for real, just so 670 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: you can feel it and so you won't be surprised 671 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: by it in September. I just think you have to 672 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: lean on the experience gained every day in practice against 673 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: the Rams defensive front with the likes of Fowler and Donald, 674 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: and then in the four preseason games that I count 675 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: for that group, which would be against the Chargers and 676 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: the Raiders respectively, both of whom have really talented pass rushers. Yeah, yeah, 677 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: no doubt. You know, practicing against Aaron is it's great, 678 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: it's what you want, but it can also be a 679 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: false positive because not everyone's that good, and you're getting 680 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: ready to play a guy that's not as good, and 681 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: you might set like he is Aaron and then he 682 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: beat you on something lazy, you know what I mean, 683 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: interest like a Spen move. So I just I wish 684 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: you had a chance to line up against someone else's 685 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: starter so you can just get the rhythm of what 686 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: they're going to try to do to you. That's that's all. 687 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: That's just weird stuff. It won't be long before we're 688 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: talking about Gerald McCoy and the upcoming defenses when it 689 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: counts that that rebuilt offensive line for the Rams will 690 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: be facing early in the twenty nineteen schedule. All right, DeMarco, 691 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: thanks for having me in for this edition of Between 692 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: the Horns, Miles Simmons, wherever you are, wherever you might 693 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: be listening, it's been an honor. Will we hear this 694 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: music again, we'll talk about it. Maybe it died with 695 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: Miles a teaser that you'll have to tune in the 696 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: next edition to find out half a great week. Everyone, 697 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: hope to see you at the Collis c Am, Broncos 698 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: and Rams this Saturday.