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Speaker 1: believe in the final hour we will check in with
Speaker 1: the Lakers. That situation, it got even worse after the
Speaker 1: report that Frank Vogel was coaching for his job. On Monday,
Speaker 1: when they beat Utah, they lost to the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 1: And the Indiana Pacers are a terrible road tree, Dad
Speaker 1: and one since November twenty second away from home. They
Speaker 1: came in three and seventeen on the road. They had
Speaker 1: lost ten of their last eleven overall, and they come
Speaker 1: in and beat the Lakers in a game where you
Speaker 1: would think the Lakers would rally and say, hey, let's
Speaker 1: prove who we are now. You've got a ten day
Speaker 1: road trip. Good luck to Frank Vogel. Russ was benched
Speaker 1: by the way in the fourth quarter, and the most
Speaker 1: telling comment that came out of the press conference last
Speaker 1: night was this one by Frank Vogel. Frank, you opted
Speaker 1: to go with Russ on the bench at the end
Speaker 1: of the game. What were you What were you looking
Speaker 1: for there? What was the thinking behind that, behind that choice? Yeah,
Speaker 1: playing the guys, I thought we were going to win
Speaker 1: the game, which Russ wasn't there post game he left
Speaker 1: the building, all right, So we'll talk about that coming
Speaker 1: up here. Baker Mayfield had surgery non throwing shoulder, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what the recovery time is, but being
Speaker 1: non throwing will certainly help that Jim Harbaugh is at
Speaker 1: a real story or not. Does Jim want it to
Speaker 1: be a real story or not that the Raiders are interested.
Speaker 1: I have great respect for Bruce Feldman of The Athletic
Speaker 1: who reported Wednesday night that some inside the Michigan football
Speaker 1: program believe Harball would leave ann Arbor for Las Vegas
Speaker 1: if the Raiders offered him the job. The Raiders have
Speaker 1: not offered the job to Harball or anybody else for
Speaker 1: that matter, not even the interim head coach, Rich Beisaccia.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of strange. Normally these stories get out there.
Speaker 1: This feels like it's almost orchestrated by Jim or his agent, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: Jim might be interested in the Raiders, and this is
Speaker 1: what happens. You know, occasionally you get a phone call
Speaker 1: from an agent and they'll tell you. They're like, you
Speaker 1: didn't hear it from me, but and you know, you
Speaker 1: understand that there's an agenda here, and this is Jim
Speaker 1: trying to drum up some interest. Maybe maybe truly wants
Speaker 1: to go back to the NFL, maybe he wants a raise.
Speaker 1: But it feels like, now there's a couple of things
Speaker 1: if I look at this, let's look at both both
Speaker 1: sides of this. With Hardball, why would you stay Well,
Speaker 1: you just beat Ohio State, you did get blown out
Speaker 1: by Georgia, but you've taken the program up now to
Speaker 1: where people think it should be. He might look at
Speaker 1: this and go, I don't know if I can keep
Speaker 1: it up here, because we're not going to beat Ohio
Speaker 1: State that often. We're not going to out recruit Ohio State,
Speaker 1: and if we do get into the final four or
Speaker 1: you know they have the playoffs extended, you know we can't.
Speaker 1: We're not going to beat SEC teams. Now, he might
Speaker 1: think this, whether it's true or note. Well, he might think, well,
Speaker 1: of course we can beat him. But privately, go man,
Speaker 1: we have no business being on the field with Georgia
Speaker 1: or Alabama. But your family is from there. You went
Speaker 1: to school, Dad lives next door, your kids are in school,
Speaker 1: and I just wonder he has more control. It's a
Speaker 1: different type of coaching responsibility. But then if you go
Speaker 1: to Vegas, you know you got an owner. Are you
Speaker 1: all in with that owner? Who's the GM? You got
Speaker 1: some talent? Do you want to uproot your family and
Speaker 1: leave ann Arbor to go to Vegas? Now, maybe in
Speaker 1: the deep recesses of his ego, Jim's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I went to a Super Bowl. I'd love to do
Speaker 1: that one more time. My brother has a Super Bowl win,
Speaker 1: I'd like to have one as well. And you're going
Speaker 1: to go back to the NFL with the Raiders because
Speaker 1: as people will tell you who liked Jim, who worked
Speaker 1: with Jim, Jim is tough. It's tough to you know,
Speaker 1: be with Jim for you know, a prolonged period of time.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about years. But this is who he is,
Speaker 1: This is his makeup. I'm sure Bill Belichick is tough,
Speaker 1: but Jim is tough Jim. There's almost a shelf life
Speaker 1: for how long you can be around Jim and how
Speaker 1: long Jim wants to be around a certain program, whether
Speaker 1: it's college or the NFL. Could I see him coaching
Speaker 1: in the NFL again, Yeah, he's fifty eight. I could.
Speaker 1: But I also look at this and go, he did
Speaker 1: what he said he was going to do. He's going
Speaker 1: to leave this better than he found it. Now. The
Speaker 1: ceiling might that glass ceiling is a little bit lower
Speaker 1: than some of the other schools. But you just beat
Speaker 1: Ohio State. You did get him to a playoff. I
Speaker 1: think he could leave now. Not keep in mind, we
Speaker 1: didn't even know if he's going to be back this
Speaker 1: last season, and he had to take a pay cut.
Speaker 1: He might say, all right, I understand it. You want
Speaker 1: to embarrass me. I didn't do my job. We weren't
Speaker 1: as good as we should And now look at what
Speaker 1: I did. We beat Ohio State and we got into
Speaker 1: the final four and I'm going to I'm going to leave.
Speaker 1: You're in better hands, better position than you were when
Speaker 1: I took over from Brady Hook And he's right, But
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, trying to understand, like there was
Speaker 1: a moment where Mike Shashevski was going to be the
Speaker 1: Laker's head coach, and in your mind, you're going, why
Speaker 1: would you leave? Duke. That's my trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody's mindset or their ego, what their goals are. Hey,
Speaker 1: I've proven I can win in college. Yeah, Abot, can
Speaker 1: you win in the NBA? I don't know. If Greg
Speaker 1: Popovich goes man, I I proved I can win in
Speaker 1: the NBA. I'd like to prove I can win in college.
Speaker 1: John b Line at Michigan, Hey, I want to go
Speaker 1: to the NBA. Steve Spurrier, Hey, I'd like to go.
Speaker 1: You know, Joe Paterno never left Penn State, probably had
Speaker 1: an opportunity couple of places. Kirk Fern's never left Iowa.
Speaker 1: You know, you have lifers and then you have guys
Speaker 1: who just feel like it's three years here, four years here,
Speaker 1: three years here, five years there. And Jim Harball strikes
Speaker 1: me as that guy. But when you have kids, your family,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. You know, you have your
Speaker 1: father right there next door. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: you go, dad, come on, we're going to retire in Vegas.
Speaker 1: You still have your kids uproot your family. I mean,
Speaker 1: I went through this. I didn't want to leave. My
Speaker 1: kids were in school, and it wasn't fair to them
Speaker 1: for me to go for my selfish reasons, whether it
Speaker 1: was going to be Fox or CBS. I thought, I'm
Speaker 1: being selfish. I've asked them to be unselfish. Now I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask them to do that again. At some point,
Speaker 1: you have to be unselfish for them, and maybe that's
Speaker 1: where Jim is. But I trust Bruce Feldman and his
Speaker 1: reporting that maybe there is something there. I just don't
Speaker 1: know what game is being played here, because it feels
Speaker 1: like there's a little bit of a game being played. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I wonder if Harbor on his agent think, you know,
Speaker 1: there's been a couple of years here where they talk
Speaker 1: about moving on for me and firing me. Now I'm
Speaker 1: in a position where I'm somewhat hot again and play
Speaker 1: for coaching jobs in the NFL that may not happen again.
Speaker 1: Don't wait to be fired someday you leave. Mischig is
Speaker 1: not exactly You're not bo Schembeckler or anything, but you're
Speaker 1: kind of a Michigan semi legend. You could lead the
Speaker 1: way your head held eye and you get a nice
Speaker 1: NFL coaching job. If it didn't work out, he would
Speaker 1: be scooped up by the colleges again in a second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and those windows. If you pass now in Michigan's eight
Speaker 1: and four next year, you're off the radar for the pros. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised Chicago's not interested in Jim Horriball, at
Speaker 1: least it doesn't appear that way. Sometimes you put it
Speaker 1: out there and then people go, oh, Jim Horriball might
Speaker 1: be interested in the NFL. That you might not know
Speaker 1: that until it's put out there, and then maybe you
Speaker 1: get other teams to go, you know, maybe we make
Speaker 1: a run at Harball here. I was talking to one
Speaker 1: of my big ten sources and said, wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if Jim was interested or somebody was interested in him,
Speaker 1: because there's not a great deal of great candidates out there,
Speaker 1: according to my source, and I'm thinking there are a
Speaker 1: lot of good candidates, but Harball would be a great candidate.
Speaker 1: Like even Josh McDaniels said with the Patriots, like it
Speaker 1: seems like that ship is sailed. You know, you burn
Speaker 1: Indie and is he just going to wait for Belichick
Speaker 1: to retire? We call these windows of hotness for coaches.
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Windows of hotness? Oh, there
Speaker 1: was another story, not a big story, but it was
Speaker 1: still a story. Bruce Arians was fine fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: by the NFL, and uh, well, here is the reporter's
Speaker 1: question and then Bruce's answer about the incident on the
Speaker 1: sidelines during the game against the Eagles. Bruce just wanting
Speaker 1: to get this side of the way. I guess the
Speaker 1: league has to find you fifty thousand dollars for you're
Speaker 1: encountering there in a sideline with Danger Adams. You planned
Speaker 1: to appeal it, you have anything else to say about
Speaker 1: what you're trying to be I will appeal it. And
Speaker 1: it ain't got nothing to do with the game, So
Speaker 1: we're good. It's a bad look by coach Areans because
Speaker 1: he's trying to get his players off of a pile there.
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a scrum out there and
Speaker 1: he smacks one of his players on the side of
Speaker 1: the helmet. Now he was trying to get his attention
Speaker 1: to get him out of the way. But still he's
Speaker 1: going to appeal it. But we see it. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're appealing, But to me I had a
Speaker 1: problem with it. Didn't look good at all for coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like the kind of thing your dad would do.
Speaker 1: Do you like, what the hell's wrong with you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That kind of slaps usually accompanied with what the hell
Speaker 1: are you doing? Now? The hell's wrong with you? I
Speaker 1: agree with you to a point, Like, but a fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars fine. He was obviously not trying to hurt
Speaker 1: anybody or had bad intentions, and he hit a guy
Speaker 1: who's wearing a helmet. Not enough, his helmet wasn't off.
Speaker 1: But let's say his helmet was off. Let's say somebody
Speaker 1: was in the scrum and they had their helmet off.
Speaker 1: That probably quite different. Yeah, I'd react everything. And what
Speaker 1: if he had him in a shoulder patch, just pounded
Speaker 1: him to try to get his attention. I guess it's
Speaker 1: because it's in his head. I think it's hitting him up,
Speaker 1: you know. Upside of the head. There's there's something about
Speaker 1: that that we all grew up, you know, where if
Speaker 1: it didn't happen to you, you saw it happened to
Speaker 1: somebody else. So you get smacked up side of the head.
Speaker 1: And it's just something about it. It just doesn't look good.
Speaker 1: And you know, Bruce can appeal it, maybe they reduce it.
Speaker 1: But he was wrong, that's all. Yeah. See, I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with finding him. But fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: seems like a lot of money. Yeah, but I don't
Speaker 1: know if you hold your head coach more accountable in
Speaker 1: a situation like that. I don't know how you come
Speaker 1: up with these magic numbers. I've often wondered, does the
Speaker 1: commissioner have a one page that says if you do this,
Speaker 1: it cost you this. And fifty thousand dollars seemed like
Speaker 1: quite a bit of quite a bit of money for
Speaker 1: a situation like that. And I've seen coaches grab players
Speaker 1: by their face mask and you know they're trying to
Speaker 1: shake them up. I still love when you know the
Speaker 1: hypocrisy of coaches who want you to be disciplined but
Speaker 1: they're not disciplined. When they want you to be disciplined,
Speaker 1: like you gotta be smarter than you, gotta be disciplined,
Speaker 1: and they smack you and you go, but you're not
Speaker 1: being discipline Like that just cost you fifty grand your
Speaker 1: lack of discipline. Yeah do you what are you? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? You just did that to me? Why
Speaker 1: did you do that? That hurt? Yes? I was actually
Speaker 1: impressed at arians who was able to get over to him.
Speaker 1: He's got one Achilles, oh I know, and that's probably
Speaker 1: not a great Achilles either, Like it's not like his
Speaker 1: other one's fantastic. That's how frustrated he was in that moment.
Speaker 1: He uh Patrick mahomes as handing out verbal bouquets for
Speaker 1: Josh Allen before their confrontation their contest this weekend. He
Speaker 1: had this to say, Yeah, I mean he's a he's
Speaker 1: a tremendous player. Um, I actually know at of it
Speaker 1: off the stold as well. Great dude. Um, they put
Speaker 1: a lot on his shoulders and he rises to it,
Speaker 1: rises to the occasion. I mean he's able to run
Speaker 1: the ball, he can throw the ball, he has the
Speaker 1: arm arm friend to throw anywhere on the football field,
Speaker 1: and he makes great decisions. So uh, like you said,
Speaker 1: we'll probably play him a lot of times. It'll be
Speaker 1: great competition and it's definitely a great challenge for us
Speaker 1: as a as a team to compete with him. That's
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes on Josh Allen Ton. I did pause there
Speaker 1: for a moment because I thought you were gonna do
Speaker 1: your Patrick Mahomes impersonation talking about Josh Jollens really good.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a tough game, but ultimately,
Speaker 1: hopefully will be the victors. You're the one that suggested
Speaker 1: playing the clip I did. You did that just to
Speaker 1: make fun of Patrick Mahomes pretty much? Okay? Five touchdowns? Hey,
Speaker 1: well through a perfect game, there will you do? Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh no, let's say the Chiefs don't make the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: In studio guest, well, I do that impersonation to his face? Yes,
Speaker 1: of course I will. Okay, if I would do it
Speaker 1: to Shannon Sharp fellow with his guns. That one was tough,
Speaker 1: the Shannon Sharp impersonation. While it is good. I made Fritzie.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Todd, he does a Shannon Sharp impersonation.
Speaker 1: Yes see, didn't Paul do? Uh? Andrew luck to Andrew Lush? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was fantastic. That's a tough because that was prime
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. He wasn't retired. Flip phone. I love my
Speaker 1: flip phone. My parents have nonsense that dopey SIU kid,
Speaker 1: I'm getting at gotta go PTA meeting. Would you do
Speaker 1: it in person to Andrew Luck? Yeah, yeah, because he
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's gonna strike out. You know, he
Speaker 1: may cut me out of the book club. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I would do it because I did it one. I
Speaker 1: was sweating though, because that's awkward to it all. Put
Speaker 1: on the phone that he called in. He wasn't there
Speaker 1: next to us, and even then I was a little sweaty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Fritzie says he'll do it in front of Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: vote against against. I just feel like I have to
Speaker 1: say that I vote against it. I just don't want
Speaker 1: to experience that moment. I'm leaning that way. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say go for it. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: let's go for let's roll the dice. It's not like
Speaker 1: I came up with that. There was a million jip
Speaker 1: skips or whatever about Kermit the Frog. I just kind
Speaker 1: of jumped on it so like I could, you know
Speaker 1: what he kind of sounds a little Kermit the Frog spey.
Speaker 1: How's that? Man? You don't sound good. I got a
Speaker 1: little bit of still a little bit of Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not coming in tomorrow, tomorrow another meat Friday. No, you're
Speaker 1: not coming in tomorrow. Can't do What about Monday? You
Speaker 1: come in on Monday? Maybe maybe? Maybe? Oh, well, you
Speaker 1: gotta test negative here, like I just I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't do that. Okay, No, we gotta do we gotta
Speaker 1: be smart. No, look, I'd love to have you in,
Speaker 1: like to have you in. Yeah, I think you guys
Speaker 1: like this whole arrangements. That's all right, you're not shooting
Speaker 1: it down. Yeah, Paul See and I were talking earlier.
Speaker 1: We can't really tell the difference because we have our
Speaker 1: BackStar Fritzie during the show, and he's usually doesn't say
Speaker 1: utter one word during the show, and he doesn't get
Speaker 1: up or move or do anything during the show. So
Speaker 1: the TV is there with his head there, it's like
Speaker 1: there's no difference. He still emails most of his communication
Speaker 1: with us if he's sitting right there. Yea, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: gotten the same amount of email from Fritzie I would
Speaker 1: if he was next to me, and the same amount
Speaker 1: of in our personal conversation and when we when I
Speaker 1: during the curser break, I walk into the kitchen, I
Speaker 1: walk right by your monitor. I actually think you can
Speaker 1: see me walking by you, but you can't, so it
Speaker 1: feels like you're you're here, but we do miss you.
Speaker 1: What's for meat Friday? I don't know that. Tune in tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Tune in tomorrow. I have no idea. All right, let
Speaker 1: me take a break. We'll check in with the Lakers
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Speaker 1: This just in from our good buddy Rick Stroud, who
Speaker 1: covers Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Leonard Fournette is practicing. Ronald Jones
Speaker 1: is out of the boot and doing some work as well.
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Speaker 1: will bring back Pauli's impersonation of Andrew Luck to Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: and I'll bring back my Lou Holtz impersonation to Lou Holtz.
Speaker 1: Those were so uncomfortable, they were awesome. Though. Bill oorm
Speaker 1: covers the Lakers for The Athletic. He's been a busy guy.
Speaker 1: If somebody didn't see the game last night, how would
Speaker 1: you describe how the Lakers played well? I think at
Speaker 1: the end of the game, I tweeted that it was
Speaker 1: a dreadful result, and you know it's it's it's really
Speaker 1: an accumulation of a lot of things. The Pacers aren't
Speaker 1: very good. They'd lost ten of their last eleven games.
Speaker 1: The Lakers had a fifteen point lead in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: they got thirty points from Lebron James, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'd say Russell Westbrook wasn't doing the things that we
Speaker 1: usually think of as being bad RUSS things. He only
Speaker 1: had one turnover, he shot four of six from three,
Speaker 1: but he still ended up having a terrible night from
Speaker 1: the field. He was not finishing around the rim, and
Speaker 1: he ends the night on the bench, something we haven't
Speaker 1: seen this year with Frank Vogel, who's kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: really coaching for his job, as we reported earlier this
Speaker 1: week on kind of a night to night basis, you know,
Speaker 1: throwing the kitchen sink at the Pacers, which in this
Speaker 1: case was not playing the highest the forty four million
Speaker 1: dollars guy. Yeah, I'm just I'm just trying to understand
Speaker 1: if this is fixable, Bill, because it feels like, Okay,
Speaker 1: get rid of the coach. That doesn't fix effort, And
Speaker 1: a lot of what I saw, or what I see
Speaker 1: on defensively is there's no effort. So how do you
Speaker 1: fix this? Can you fix this this season? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's I think that's what the front office is way.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you sacrifice this season in the
Speaker 1: name of, you know, pursuing a championship when that might
Speaker 1: already be lost with this team. And you know, you
Speaker 1: do see coaching changes sort of shake up a team, psyche,
Speaker 1: give them a kickstart, you know, a kick in the
Speaker 1: butt whatever. But we've also seen the Lakers play for
Speaker 1: David Fizdale this year. They went one and four with
Speaker 1: him when when Frank Vogel had COVID And that's maybe
Speaker 1: an unfair way of judging David Fizdale's a potential replacement
Speaker 1: given all that all that was going on with replacement players.
Speaker 1: But I do think the Lakers sort of got a
Speaker 1: glimpse of what that might look like. And if they
Speaker 1: weren't you know, um, you know, if they weren't really
Speaker 1: excited about that, you know, maybe that gives them pause
Speaker 1: on making a change. And you know, last the last
Speaker 1: previous two years, Jason Kidd on the bench, and that
Speaker 1: was somebody the Lakers held in really high regard, somebody whom,
Speaker 1: if not for some of the baggage, might have been
Speaker 1: a candidate for the head coaching job in twenty nineteen. Instead,
Speaker 1: he kind of comes to the Lakers and rehabs his image.
Speaker 1: He would have been likely, he would have been a
Speaker 1: really obvious replacement if there was a mid season firing
Speaker 1: while he was on the bench. It's less obvious now
Speaker 1: with David Fizdale and Phil Handy and Mike Penberthy as
Speaker 1: the lead assistants. So it's really what what do you
Speaker 1: want to sacrifice this year in the pursuit of something
Speaker 1: short term when you know, I don't like like like
Speaker 1: like you Dan, you know, this doesn't seem like something
Speaker 1: that is just going to UM is going to change
Speaker 1: with a new voice. What can they do with the
Speaker 1: trade deadline? Very limited? Right? I mean they have, you know,
Speaker 1: basically three tradeable pieces. When you look at UM, you
Speaker 1: know Kaylen Horton Tucker who makes ten million dollars, Kendrick
Speaker 1: Nunn makes five million dollars. And then they have a
Speaker 1: first round pick way out in twenty twenty seven, when
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully I'm going to be on a rowboat
Speaker 1: fishing bass somewhere by then, but but you know, and
Speaker 1: then and then yeah, okay, maybe you got some second
Speaker 1: round picks. We know they were interested in Cam Reddish
Speaker 1: from the Hawks for you within the Knicks, and they
Speaker 1: were thrown around a couple of second rounders. They have
Speaker 1: the minimum contracts. I mean, here's one thing the Lakers
Speaker 1: have an abundance of. It's a bunch. It's it's minimum
Speaker 1: contracts that are totally disposable because they signed so many
Speaker 1: guys in the offseason who are not playing and are
Speaker 1: not contributing. So if they needed to get you know,
Speaker 1: up to five million dollars or seven million dollars on
Speaker 1: contracts and then throwing second round picks as sweeteners, you
Speaker 1: could trade Kent Baysmore, DeAndre Jordan, Wayne Ellington because those
Speaker 1: guys aren't contributing right now in the near term. But again,
Speaker 1: if we're talking about thht Kendrick Nunn and then that
Speaker 1: first down the road, what are you getting back that
Speaker 1: is actually going to make it make it worth it?
Speaker 1: Because Taylor Corton Tucker, with only a year and a
Speaker 1: half left on his contract, has more value to the
Speaker 1: Lakers than anyone else. They're the ones that you found him,
Speaker 1: developed him, have some confidence in him, have the relationship.
Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody else values him as highly
Speaker 1: as the Lakers do, and especially as a ten million
Speaker 1: dollars a year player. So it's gonna be really hard
Speaker 1: to find an impact player at the deadline for the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Anybody interested in Russell Westbrook? Um, you know, there's there's
Speaker 1: always a chance. Uh. You know, one thing I think
Speaker 1: we've learned in the NBA is that there's there is
Speaker 1: no such thing as an untradable contract. But I do
Speaker 1: think that we are getting very close to the stage
Speaker 1: where Russ is an untradable player. U the contract on
Speaker 1: top of the way he plays, the way he changes
Speaker 1: your system, the way everything becomes about Russ, and and
Speaker 1: sort of the diminishing returns we've seen with him as
Speaker 1: a player, I think makes him, you know, really really
Speaker 1: difficult to move. And you know, that's kind of why
Speaker 1: a lot of people were so caught so off guard
Speaker 1: by the Lakers making that investment in the off season
Speaker 1: that it was, um, a really big swing, but also
Speaker 1: a really big risk. And when you take that risk,
Speaker 1: you don't have other cards to play. You have you
Speaker 1: have expended your bank account. It's like going all in
Speaker 1: on on your you know, on your sixteen year olds
Speaker 1: lemonade stand and realizing nobody's thirsty. It just doesn't it.
Speaker 1: It hasn't paid off yet, and you know the Lakers
Speaker 1: don't have you know, that next move. Well, okay, if
Speaker 1: that doesn't work, then how do you adjust? And they
Speaker 1: don't have that next card to play? So is anyone
Speaker 1: interested Russell Westbrook? You know, the Lakers don't have the
Speaker 1: sweeteners to come off of his contract. They don't have
Speaker 1: the you know, the twenty twenty two first and the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four first that you know a team might want,
Speaker 1: they don't have, you know, I mean, honestly, the lakers
Speaker 1: best trade sweetener right now is probably Austin Reeves, who
Speaker 1: is their undrafted rookie who is playing really meaningful minutes
Speaker 1: and has become this real bright spot. You know, if
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm a team trying to trade with the Lakers,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not just asking for you know, all
Speaker 1: the all the guys who aren't playing might described earlier.
Speaker 1: I would also want a guy who can come in
Speaker 1: and contribute in Austin Reeves, and I don't know that
Speaker 1: the Lakers are gonna be able to do that. Why
Speaker 1: would the Lakers leak this if you're not going to
Speaker 1: make a change, Like, what, what tell me the game
Speaker 1: that's played here of getting this information out here. You
Speaker 1: don't have to tell me who the source is, obviously,
Speaker 1: but they wanted this out there. It feels like that's
Speaker 1: fair enough. Fair I prefer to think of it as
Speaker 1: really good report it there. I'm sure it was. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it is my bad so due to the great
Speaker 1: reporting this information got out there. Why yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that there's a couple of ways of looking at it. Obviously, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I would I would actually say that Frank
Speaker 1: Vogel has probably gotten a boost from the fact that
Speaker 1: this information has been out there. Not just not to
Speaker 1: say that that is where you know, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not suggesting you sleuth that that is where the heat
Speaker 1: information is coming from, but it you know, I do
Speaker 1: think that, you know, the organization has taken a little
Speaker 1: bit of a hit from the fact that this has
Speaker 1: been that this has been reported in the way it's
Speaker 1: been framed. That um that you know that they are
Speaker 1: looking to make a change, But I think the general
Speaker 1: reaction is like, like you said, what difference is that
Speaker 1: going to make? And who's going to come in and
Speaker 1: do a better job, and so I think that, um, well,
Speaker 1: the team didn't even step up last night, Bill, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: and that was and that was what was so interesting,
Speaker 1: because we didn't report this until after the Jazz game,
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of pressure, you know, I
Speaker 1: think there was just a sense of pressure, like a
Speaker 1: really heavy you know, the air was really heavy in
Speaker 1: the crypt on Monday night against the Jazz before the
Speaker 1: Lakers won that game. But then, um, you know, once
Speaker 1: it was reported, and then there was some follow up
Speaker 1: reporting from other outlets kind of on the way the
Speaker 1: front office was sort of applying pressure on Frank Vogel.
Speaker 1: You you I thought the last night it was gonna
Speaker 1: be a really interesting measuring stick game to see how
Speaker 1: the how the how the locker room responded. And it
Speaker 1: looked good in the beginning. I would have argued that,
Speaker 1: you know, that looked like a team that was, you know,
Speaker 1: playing for their coach. And then it completely disintegrated down
Speaker 1: the stretch. Lebron, you know, Lebron started missing shots down
Speaker 1: the stretch, wasn't getting enough support. Russ wasn't out there. Um,
Speaker 1: it seemed really disengaged. There seemed to be a lot
Speaker 1: of chippiness at the end of the game, a lot
Speaker 1: of saltiness. So you know, and the timing, Dan is
Speaker 1: really fascinating because if you were going to make a change,
Speaker 1: you would have got to be last night because they're
Speaker 1: about to go on the six game road trip that
Speaker 1: is going to be brutal. I mean, they've got to
Speaker 1: Orlando tomorrow night. But then after that it's Miami, Brooklyn, Philly, Charlotte, Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Those are all teams they could lose to. So um,
Speaker 1: the timing is really tough for them. Well, it's only
Speaker 1: eight thirty local time there. You know, I was I
Speaker 1: was told last night that Frank Vogel was getting on
Speaker 1: the plane today. So if as as long as nothing
Speaker 1: changed between you know, midnight last night and you know
Speaker 1: whenever they're taking off for Orlando ten am or so,
Speaker 1: Frank bog was gonna be coaching the team in Orlando.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting. I mean he's on the hot seat,
Speaker 1: you know, as he as he loses to Indiana and
Speaker 1: now going to Orlando. You know, for Frank Vogel, I've
Speaker 1: got to think that's like the ghosts of Firings passed.
Speaker 1: So um, sure he's hoping to make it through just
Speaker 1: those those uh, those those bad memories and is he
Speaker 1: on the plane coming back? Bill, He will be on
Speaker 1: a plane. I mean, I do think that, Like I
Speaker 1: don't want to say that that he bought time with
Speaker 1: the Utah win. I mean, the Utah game was really pivotal.
Speaker 1: If there had been a similar result against the Jazz
Speaker 1: to what happened two nights earlier against Denver, I think
Speaker 1: I think the front office would have felt like they
Speaker 1: had no other choice. But now, not that the Utah
Speaker 1: win itself lowered the temperature, but the fact that they
Speaker 1: snapped the street. They got to win against the top
Speaker 1: Western conference team, although a team that lost to the
Speaker 1: Rockets last night and is now lost six to seven.
Speaker 1: I do think that it's sort of kind of popped
Speaker 1: the balloon in a sense where the Lakers are willing
Speaker 1: to kind of ride this out a little bit. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it doesn't mean it can't get worse.
Speaker 1: Although I will say I always always refer to the
Speaker 1: great Jim Murray's quote, which was there's nothing so bad
Speaker 1: it can't be made worse by firing the coach. Bill,
Speaker 1: thank you, we appreciate your time, and have fun on
Speaker 1: the road trip. Thanks so much, Dan, appreciate it. That's
Speaker 1: Bill Orham done a great job, great reporting for the Athletic.
Speaker 1: Of course, had the had this story about Frank Vogel
Speaker 1: coaching for his job. He's getting on the plane this morning.
Speaker 1: We have an exclusive getting on the plane this morning.
Speaker 1: All right, do we have the Andrew Luck impersonation by you? Polly?
Speaker 1: This is what is this? Five years ago? Four years?
Speaker 1: Five years ago? And I've been doing it for probably
Speaker 1: six months on the show haphazardly. We didn't think we
Speaker 1: were going to be able to book him. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: felt pretty safe. Um, here we go. All right, Now
Speaker 1: we have somebody on the staff, Paully, my producer, who
Speaker 1: does a poor imitation of you. Are you? Are you
Speaker 1: game for listening to Paully do his Andrew Luck impersonation?
Speaker 1: Absolutely okay, So Paul Willing, Paully, are you okay? Because
Speaker 1: you've done this before with us, but now with Andrew here,
Speaker 1: I want to see how you are under pressure. This
Speaker 1: is a two minute drill. Glad to do it here
Speaker 1: on Behalfo Direct TV Sunday ticket got my brand new
Speaker 1: at faul. Don't don't care. The McAfee makes fun of
Speaker 1: it at all. I could take him. I can. I'll
Speaker 1: tackle him, smart mouth special teamer Frank Rik Galaxy favorite
Speaker 1: team and go Cardinal. I have that as twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, okay, six years ago. Yeah, Polly, and if
Speaker 1: I think if we had the back half of the clip,
Speaker 1: you said, what do you think of it? Which made
Speaker 1: it way funnier, a good sport. We had Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: impersonating Andrew Luck there, that's good. Last time I was
Speaker 1: on the show. No coincidence. Patrick and I would always
Speaker 1: do a lou Holtz impersonation. Usually I would do lou
Speaker 1: Holtz singing the Killers, um, and and you know, not
Speaker 1: many people do a lou Holtz impersonation where he's singing
Speaker 1: a song by the Killers coming out of my age
Speaker 1: cage and I'm doing just fine. I would do it
Speaker 1: in the hallways and I would be singing and um.
Speaker 1: We had lou Holtz in studio, and I remember saying
Speaker 1: that I did a lou Holtz impersonation to lou Holtz
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he cry, J punch your pancheon came
Speaker 1: away weak too, and he he didn't say anything. He goes, well, Portua, boy,
Speaker 1: don't take the Lord Shaman Bain and I went, all right,
Speaker 1: and this didn't go well, this didn't go well, virtuable
Speaker 1: pressurable coming out of my cage, and I'm going he
Speaker 1: came because I'm on all right, Yeah, Luxury Action was
Speaker 1: a whole lot better than lou holtzz was right that
Speaker 1: such a nice guy. Well pressure boy shakes the Lord
Speaker 1: sham Bang didn't didn't you say that? The skip hoole
Speaker 1: to like, oh I didn't impressure yeah, oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh he came in studio, I think, and I go,
Speaker 1: oh boy, not good. It sounded like it was gonna
Speaker 1: be a good idea. But I don't know how many
Speaker 1: people like hearing somebody impersonate them because normally you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't sound like that. It's almost never flattering. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're taking something about you and exaggerating it and
Speaker 1: making you sound stupid. It's it's almost never good. It's
Speaker 1: it's like when Frank Calodendo, does you know John Gruden
Speaker 1: or John Madden? You know? Then it always felt like
Speaker 1: you're making fun of that person. Yes. One. Caliendo told
Speaker 1: us a while back that he never knows what the
Speaker 1: athlete is going to respond like he'll meet them at
Speaker 1: some type of ESPN event or some Fox event and
Speaker 1: he'll run into Hey, there's a blank and he sees
Speaker 1: their face like does he know who I am? Does
Speaker 1: he know I'm the guy? Because you may not know
Speaker 1: who Frank is. He's real famous now, but back in
Speaker 1: the day, wasn't. Yeah. See, It's kind of like if
Speaker 1: you're a musician and you get the call saying, hey,
Speaker 1: weird albums to make a parody of your song. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, is that good or is at bad?
Speaker 1: Did you see whether there's going to be a weird
Speaker 1: Al Yankovic movie? And I think Daniel Radcliffe from Harry Potter,
Speaker 1: what here is this? I don't I don't know. Like
Speaker 1: if somebody said, you know, we need to have a
Speaker 1: movie about weird Al Yankovic, probably Weird Al said that,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I want to make a movie
Speaker 1: about myself. All right, let's take a break, last call
Speaker 1: for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Back after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick
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Speaker 1: get your podcast from last call for phone calls, final
Speaker 1: results of the poll question, this day in sports History,
Speaker 1: all of that coming up. By the way, Stetson Bennett
Speaker 1: Junior the fourth is coming back for another season at
Speaker 1: Georgia as their quarterback. He'll be twenty four years of age.
Speaker 1: And I wonder because I saw some of the social
Speaker 1: media fallout and it felt like there were some fans
Speaker 1: that didn't want him to come back. Hey, you gave
Speaker 1: us a championship. You came up big in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: but we kind of need a big time quarterback. There
Speaker 1: a guy who's going to play in the NFL. If
Speaker 1: your stetson Bennett, I don't know. Maybe you don't keep
Speaker 1: the job, but you come back name, image and likeness.
Speaker 1: You could be on scholarship one more year. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to play in the NFL. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I read some of that. I think people were more
Speaker 1: concerned that he's going to come back. Maybe if he
Speaker 1: thinks he's gonna start, he might lose the gig again,
Speaker 1: but he's already at Georgia legend. He comes back to
Speaker 1: help the team next year in case there's an injury
Speaker 1: or kind of like Jalen Hurts did when he lost
Speaker 1: his job. He's not as much of a prospect, but
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna get all that nil money next
Speaker 1: year too, go because he goes in as a legend.
Speaker 1: You know, Lonzo Ball is deciding if he needs surgery
Speaker 1: or he wants to do it now. He'd be sideline
Speaker 1: for up to from four to six weeks. May need
Speaker 1: scope on his left knee meniscus tears. According to Woach
Speaker 1: on the mother Ship. Bulls and Lonzo Balls Agent are
Speaker 1: discussing the options here. Well, you can play through it.
Speaker 1: I played through a meniscus tear when I was in
Speaker 1: high school. But you know, obviously the game was probably
Speaker 1: a little rougher and tougher back then when I was playing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like that operation chart. If you put Fritzie and
Speaker 1: me together with all of our surgeries and you know
Speaker 1: the game of operation, you know, I'd be like be
Speaker 1: buzzing the whole time. I think we've got most of
Speaker 1: the body parts pretty much, pretty much, my knee and
Speaker 1: shoulder and hand. Eyes. You've got the upper GI, lower GI,
Speaker 1: the GI. Gidney stones stuff. The kidney stones are the
Speaker 1: out of all my sacred time Gudney stones that'll bring
Speaker 1: you to your knees, that'll bring you that'll bring tears
Speaker 1: to your eyes if you if you have them, and
Speaker 1: this always happens to me, they'll go, oh, you know what,
Speaker 1: they're far down, can't blast them and at me, and
Speaker 1: I go, wait, what's that mean? We gotta wait till
Speaker 1: they pass, And I go, oh my god. Yeah, from
Speaker 1: the people who bought you, brought you a segment impossible.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have kidney stones or get punched in
Speaker 1: the face by someone who knows how to throw a
Speaker 1: punch like a like a strong dude. You gotta pick one.
Speaker 1: If they were wearing boxing gloves, not the old man
Speaker 1: punch in the Facebook. I don't want to be disfigured.
Speaker 1: But it's over in moments. Yeah, But if they break
Speaker 1: my nose or break my jaw and I'm you know,
Speaker 1: sipping soup out of a straw, I mean I might
Speaker 1: take to put you down for kidney stuff. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: they can give you drugs. They can give you drugs.
Speaker 1: Let me get a couple of phone calls in here.
Speaker 1: Let's see John in California. Hi, John, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Good morning Dan, Good morning John. It's been
Speaker 1: quite It's been quite some time, but I had to
Speaker 1: call in on seating the road trip. Um. I think
Speaker 1: it'd be a good thing for him to stop by
Speaker 1: Redlands on the way in on the Tin Freeway. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to reroute or anything. But everybody seems to
Speaker 1: be luring him with his beer. But I'm going straight
Speaker 1: for his heart. I had eight different strains of California's
Speaker 1: finance cannabis. One of them. We've actually we've manipulated to
Speaker 1: leave into Afford leaf clover and we've dubbed it O'Connor cush.
Speaker 1: So Seaton, stop on by, I'll get you high. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, John hold on, I'll have Marvin get
Speaker 1: your information. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.
Speaker 1: Yeah about that Redlands here we come. Seaton gets his
Speaker 1: own cannabis strain. I've never had a strain named after him.
Speaker 1: O'Connor cush love it. Yes, I thought he was gonna leave.
Speaker 1: He's getting ready. He's got his wallet. Yeah, it's got
Speaker 1: a little tuft of like blue hair. Why doesn't somebody
Speaker 1: come up with Frank Cush because that's a former coach
Speaker 1: at Arizona State. I believe Frank Cush. He also coached
Speaker 1: the Colts as well. What are you smoking, Frank coush
Speaker 1: O'Connor could Let's final Resultso the poll question who finishes
Speaker 1: the season, who finished the season with the Lakers. Forty
Speaker 1: four percent think Russell Westbrook finishes the season. Only nine
Speaker 1: percent think Frank Vogel the coach is still the coach.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see George in Ohio, Hi George. Hey,
Speaker 1: good morning, Hey George. I had a suggestion for the
Speaker 1: road trip, but I don't know how I'm trying to
Speaker 1: follow that. I don't have any cannabis with me. I
Speaker 1: wanted to make a case for Zanesville, the birthplace of
Speaker 1: mister Dan Patrick. Oh that's okay, now there's there's nothing
Speaker 1: to seeing. You stop in and check on my dad's grave.
Speaker 1: Be about it, but thank you, George. Yeah, just do
Speaker 1: a drive by and see if my dad's still there.
Speaker 1: That'd be nice. Uh. Sean and Sacramento. Hi, Sean, Yo,
Speaker 1: my uncle from another mother, My brothers behind the boy.
Speaker 1: What's up, fellas? How y'all doing today? Great? So my
Speaker 1: suggession man, just like my other brother from California, Seaton.
Speaker 1: There's no need to go visit the biggest ball of
Speaker 1: yarn in Texas or get an overcook steak in Mississippi.
Speaker 1: That Bible belt is all trouble man. Go ahead and
Speaker 1: take the green Pas to visit all the northern States,
Speaker 1: all the dispensary stay states. And I just want to
Speaker 1: throw out one more thing out there involving Fritzie. So
Speaker 1: my family and I I don't know if this will
Speaker 1: Fritzie had. We're all getting over the coronavirus, and one
Speaker 1: thing I couldn't wait to do is send my kids
Speaker 1: back to school. So the doctor said, you know, even
Speaker 1: though they made test positive for the next three months,
Speaker 1: they're safe to go back after ten days. Is it
Speaker 1: possible we may not see Fritzie back in the studio
Speaker 1: until what April? That's all I got, fellas, suck it backscreen,
Speaker 1: all right, you wow, wow, thank screen. Wow nice, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, Sean. This dage sports ship. This has been
Speaker 1: a fun show today. Yeahs have been a fun show.
Speaker 1: This change sports sister. Let's see the most watched Super
Speaker 1: Bowl game of all time. I think that's every year.
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty five, one hundred and fifteen million people nine
Speaker 1: years beat the Dolphins in eighty five thirty eight sixteen,
Speaker 1: Joe Montana won his third MVP Award. And then you
Speaker 1: mentioned this. Yesterday nineteen sixty eight, Houston ended UCLA's forty
Speaker 1: game forty seven game winning streak seventy one sixty nine
Speaker 1: at the Astrodome, six fifty four thousand fans in attendance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and lou El Sindor had a patch over as I
Speaker 1: hit a scratch Cornea and in that game, let's see Todd,
Speaker 1: what did you learn on today's program? I like what
Speaker 1: you said at the beginning of the show. The Lakers
Speaker 1: situation is not about negativity, Lebron. It's about accountability. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and productivity. Play like it matters, Play like you care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: seton my what I learned? Yeah, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: that Boogram Farland's Lass sect didn't really count. No recording
Speaker 1: team Mosman was falling down in the Super Bowl. Big deal, Polly,
Speaker 1: what did you learn? Chris Sim's upset with us? And
Speaker 1: next time he comes in studio, well, put all your
Speaker 1: asses at a headlock. He's more upset with Jim Harbaugh.
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