WEBVTT - 01/20/22 DPS Hour 3 Bill Oram 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.720 Sports Radio. We made it to the final hour on 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:09.600 this Thursday, Dan and the Danas dan Patrick Show. Thank 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:14.120 you for your support of this program, whether it's listening, 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.799 watching the podcast, the TV show, are streaming partner Peacock, 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.720 and our radio affiliates around the country, and of course 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:25.560 acknowledging our great sponsors that we have on this program. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.080 Front row is here, Seaton and Pauli and Fritzius joining 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:34.320 us via Zoom. Peacock streaming partner in Fox Sports Radio lineup, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.839 iHeartRadio as well. We have a new poll question I 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:41.640 believe in the final hour we will check in with 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:46.239 the Lakers. That situation, it got even worse after the 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.000 report that Frank Vogel was coaching for his job. On Monday, 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:53.159 when they beat Utah, they lost to the Indiana Pacers. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.400 And the Indiana Pacers are a terrible road tree, Dad 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.560 and one since November twenty second away from home. They 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.000 came in three and seventeen on the road. They had 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.520 lost ten of their last eleven overall, and they come 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.720 in and beat the Lakers in a game where you 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.960 would think the Lakers would rally and say, hey, let's 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.119 prove who we are now. You've got a ten day 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:22.040 road trip. Good luck to Frank Vogel. Russ was benched 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.400 by the way in the fourth quarter, and the most 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.080 telling comment that came out of the press conference last 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.360 night was this one by Frank Vogel. Frank, you opted 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.440 to go with Russ on the bench at the end 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.199 of the game. What were you What were you looking 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.560 for there? What was the thinking behind that, behind that choice? Yeah, 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:39.840 playing the guys, I thought we were going to win 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.520 the game, which Russ wasn't there post game he left 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.760 the building, all right, So we'll talk about that coming 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:51.520 up here. Baker Mayfield had surgery non throwing shoulder, and 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.480 I don't know what the recovery time is, but being 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:58.320 non throwing will certainly help that Jim Harbaugh is at 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.280 a real story or not. Does Jim want it to 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.920 be a real story or not that the Raiders are interested. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.960 I have great respect for Bruce Feldman of The Athletic 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:12.239 who reported Wednesday night that some inside the Michigan football 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.400 program believe Harball would leave ann Arbor for Las Vegas 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.840 if the Raiders offered him the job. The Raiders have 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.200 not offered the job to Harball or anybody else for 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:27.639 that matter, not even the interim head coach, Rich Beisaccia. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.640 It's just kind of strange. Normally these stories get out there. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:40.720 This feels like it's almost orchestrated by Jim or his agent, Like, hey, 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.320 Jim might be interested in the Raiders, and this is 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.120 what happens. You know, occasionally you get a phone call 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:51.120 from an agent and they'll tell you. They're like, you 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:55.160 didn't hear it from me, but and you know, you 0:02:55.520 --> 0:03:00.240 understand that there's an agenda here, and this is Jim 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.000 trying to drum up some interest. Maybe maybe truly wants 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.680 to go back to the NFL, maybe he wants a raise. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.520 But it feels like, now there's a couple of things 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.880 if I look at this, let's look at both both 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.520 sides of this. With Hardball, why would you stay Well, 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.880 you just beat Ohio State, you did get blown out 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:23.400 by Georgia, but you've taken the program up now to 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.680 where people think it should be. He might look at 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.720 this and go, I don't know if I can keep 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.120 it up here, because we're not going to beat Ohio 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.640 State that often. We're not going to out recruit Ohio State, 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.400 and if we do get into the final four or 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.560 you know they have the playoffs extended, you know we can't. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.320 We're not going to beat SEC teams. Now, he might 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.840 think this, whether it's true or note. Well, he might think, well, 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.280 of course we can beat him. But privately, go man, 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.960 we have no business being on the field with Georgia 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:58.520 or Alabama. But your family is from there. You went 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.880 to school, Dad lives next door, your kids are in school, 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:08.840 and I just wonder he has more control. It's a 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:15.320 different type of coaching responsibility. But then if you go 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:19.880 to Vegas, you know you got an owner. Are you 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.599 all in with that owner? Who's the GM? You got 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.240 some talent? Do you want to uproot your family and 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:32.640 leave ann Arbor to go to Vegas? Now, maybe in 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.960 the deep recesses of his ego, Jim's like, you know, 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.039 I went to a Super Bowl. I'd love to do 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.960 that one more time. My brother has a Super Bowl win, 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.080 I'd like to have one as well. And you're going 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.719 to go back to the NFL with the Raiders because 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.760 as people will tell you who liked Jim, who worked 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:55.440 with Jim, Jim is tough. It's tough to you know, 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.280 be with Jim for you know, a prolonged period of time. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.280 I'm talking about years. But this is who he is, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:06.040 This is his makeup. I'm sure Bill Belichick is tough, 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.200 but Jim is tough Jim. There's almost a shelf life 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.159 for how long you can be around Jim and how 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.359 long Jim wants to be around a certain program, whether 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.400 it's college or the NFL. Could I see him coaching 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.719 in the NFL again, Yeah, he's fifty eight. I could. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.920 But I also look at this and go, he did 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.440 what he said he was going to do. He's going 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.359 to leave this better than he found it. Now. The 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:38.080 ceiling might that glass ceiling is a little bit lower 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.159 than some of the other schools. But you just beat 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:45.920 Ohio State. You did get him to a playoff. I 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.159 think he could leave now. Not keep in mind, we 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:49.640 didn't even know if he's going to be back this 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.920 last season, and he had to take a pay cut. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.599 He might say, all right, I understand it. You want 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.640 to embarrass me. I didn't do my job. We weren't 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.880 as good as we should And now look at what 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.160 I did. We beat Ohio State and we got into 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.600 the final four and I'm going to I'm going to leave. 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.159 You're in better hands, better position than you were when 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:15.040 I took over from Brady Hook And he's right, But 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.720 I don't, you know, trying to understand, like there was 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.120 a moment where Mike Shashevski was going to be the 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:25.279 Laker's head coach, and in your mind, you're going, why 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.120 would you leave? Duke. That's my trying to figure out, 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:35.120 you know, somebody's mindset or their ego, what their goals are. Hey, 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.480 I've proven I can win in college. Yeah, Abot, can 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.160 you win in the NBA? I don't know. If Greg 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.080 Popovich goes man, I I proved I can win in 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.200 the NBA. I'd like to prove I can win in college. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.600 John b Line at Michigan, Hey, I want to go 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:55.479 to the NBA. Steve Spurrier, Hey, I'd like to go. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.040 You know, Joe Paterno never left Penn State, probably had 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:04.279 an opportunity couple of places. Kirk Fern's never left Iowa. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.440 You know, you have lifers and then you have guys 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.320 who just feel like it's three years here, four years here, 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.120 three years here, five years there. And Jim Harball strikes 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.200 me as that guy. But when you have kids, your family, 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.080 it's a little bit different. You know, you have your 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:24.760 father right there next door. But I don't know if 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.679 you go, dad, come on, we're going to retire in Vegas. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.480 You still have your kids uproot your family. I mean, 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.680 I went through this. I didn't want to leave. My 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.360 kids were in school, and it wasn't fair to them 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.440 for me to go for my selfish reasons, whether it 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:46.840 was going to be Fox or CBS. I thought, I'm 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.520 being selfish. I've asked them to be unselfish. Now I'm 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.040 going to ask them to do that again. At some point, 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:57.800 you have to be unselfish for them, and maybe that's 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.680 where Jim is. But I trust Bruce Feldman and his 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.240 reporting that maybe there is something there. I just don't 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.440 know what game is being played here, because it feels 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.520 like there's a little bit of a game being played. Yeah, Paul, 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.040 I wonder if Harbor on his agent think, you know, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:13.600 there's been a couple of years here where they talk 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.480 about moving on for me and firing me. Now I'm 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.440 in a position where I'm somewhat hot again and play 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.920 for coaching jobs in the NFL that may not happen again. 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.160 Don't wait to be fired someday you leave. Mischig is 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.200 not exactly You're not bo Schembeckler or anything, but you're 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.560 kind of a Michigan semi legend. You could lead the 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.640 way your head held eye and you get a nice 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.240 NFL coaching job. If it didn't work out, he would 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.720 be scooped up by the colleges again in a second. Yeah, 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:41.600 and those windows. If you pass now in Michigan's eight 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:46.320 and four next year, you're off the radar for the pros. Well, 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.760 I'm just surprised Chicago's not interested in Jim Horriball, at 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.880 least it doesn't appear that way. Sometimes you put it 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.360 out there and then people go, oh, Jim Horriball might 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.400 be interested in the NFL. That you might not know 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.679 that until it's put out there, and then maybe you 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:00.960 get other teams to go, you know, maybe we make 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.480 a run at Harball here. I was talking to one 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.280 of my big ten sources and said, wouldn't be surprised 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.560 if Jim was interested or somebody was interested in him, 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:14.840 because there's not a great deal of great candidates out there, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.199 according to my source, and I'm thinking there are a 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:22.079 lot of good candidates, but Harball would be a great candidate. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.079 Like even Josh McDaniels said with the Patriots, like it 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:30.040 seems like that ship is sailed. You know, you burn 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.960 Indie and is he just going to wait for Belichick 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.400 to retire? We call these windows of hotness for coaches. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:42.160 Is that what it is? Windows of hotness? Oh, there 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.280 was another story, not a big story, but it was 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.320 still a story. Bruce Arians was fine fifty thousand dollars 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:53.079 by the NFL, and uh, well, here is the reporter's 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.040 question and then Bruce's answer about the incident on the 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.560 sidelines during the game against the Eagles. Bruce just wanting 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.000 to get this side of the way. I guess the 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.719 league has to find you fifty thousand dollars for you're 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.280 encountering there in a sideline with Danger Adams. You planned 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.680 to appeal it, you have anything else to say about 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.599 what you're trying to be I will appeal it. And 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:14.880 it ain't got nothing to do with the game, So 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:20.520 we're good. It's a bad look by coach Areans because 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.600 he's trying to get his players off of a pile there. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.679 There's a little bit of a scrum out there and 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.599 he smacks one of his players on the side of 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.480 the helmet. Now he was trying to get his attention 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.600 to get him out of the way. But still he's 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.480 going to appeal it. But we see it. I don't 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.880 know what you're appealing, But to me I had a 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.000 problem with it. Didn't look good at all for coach. Yeah, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:43.719 it's like the kind of thing your dad would do. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.160 Do you like, what the hell's wrong with you? Yeah? 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.959 That kind of slaps usually accompanied with what the hell 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.160 are you doing? Now? The hell's wrong with you? I 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.640 agree with you to a point, Like, but a fifty 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.719 thousand dollars fine. He was obviously not trying to hurt 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.720 anybody or had bad intentions, and he hit a guy 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.880 who's wearing a helmet. Not enough, his helmet wasn't off. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.800 But let's say his helmet was off. Let's say somebody 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.360 was in the scrum and they had their helmet off. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.319 That probably quite different. Yeah, I'd react everything. And what 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:10.839 if he had him in a shoulder patch, just pounded 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.840 him to try to get his attention. I guess it's 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.959 because it's in his head. I think it's hitting him up, 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.440 you know. Upside of the head. There's there's something about 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.800 that that we all grew up, you know, where if 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.000 it didn't happen to you, you saw it happened to 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.200 somebody else. So you get smacked up side of the head. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.960 And it's just something about it. It just doesn't look good. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.559 And you know, Bruce can appeal it, maybe they reduce it. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.800 But he was wrong, that's all. Yeah. See, I don't 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.679 have a problem with finding him. But fifty thousand dollars 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.920 seems like a lot of money. Yeah, but I don't 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.040 know if you hold your head coach more accountable in 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.760 a situation like that. I don't know how you come 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.319 up with these magic numbers. I've often wondered, does the 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.640 commissioner have a one page that says if you do this, 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:58.240 it cost you this. And fifty thousand dollars seemed like 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:00.800 quite a bit of quite a bit of money for 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.000 a situation like that. And I've seen coaches grab players 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.319 by their face mask and you know they're trying to 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:10.439 shake them up. I still love when you know the 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.199 hypocrisy of coaches who want you to be disciplined but 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.920 they're not disciplined. When they want you to be disciplined, 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.599 like you gotta be smarter than you, gotta be disciplined, 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.400 and they smack you and you go, but you're not 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.880 being discipline Like that just cost you fifty grand your 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.040 lack of discipline. Yeah do you what are you? What 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:32.160 are you doing? You just did that to me? Why 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:36.720 did you do that? That hurt? Yes? I was actually 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.600 impressed at arians who was able to get over to him. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:40.600 He's got one Achilles, oh I know, and that's probably 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.280 not a great Achilles either, Like it's not like his 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.360 other one's fantastic. That's how frustrated he was in that moment. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:51.400 He uh Patrick mahomes as handing out verbal bouquets for 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:56.679 Josh Allen before their confrontation their contest this weekend. He 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.760 had this to say, Yeah, I mean he's a he's 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.800 a tremendous player. Um, I actually know at of it 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.240 off the stold as well. Great dude. Um, they put 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.360 a lot on his shoulders and he rises to it, 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.360 rises to the occasion. I mean he's able to run 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.360 the ball, he can throw the ball, he has the 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.600 arm arm friend to throw anywhere on the football field, 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.760 and he makes great decisions. So uh, like you said, 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.679 we'll probably play him a lot of times. It'll be 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:21.560 great competition and it's definitely a great challenge for us 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.560 as a as a team to compete with him. That's 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.199 Patrick Mahomes on Josh Allen Ton. I did pause there 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.120 for a moment because I thought you were gonna do 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:34.160 your Patrick Mahomes impersonation talking about Josh Jollens really good. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.840 I think it's gonna be a tough game, but ultimately, 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:42.520 hopefully will be the victors. You're the one that suggested 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.599 playing the clip I did. You did that just to 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:51.400 make fun of Patrick Mahomes pretty much? Okay? Five touchdowns? Hey, 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:57.400 well through a perfect game, there will you do? Okay? 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:02.920 Oh no, let's say the Chiefs don't make the super Bowl. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.719 In studio guest, well, I do that impersonation to his face? Yes, 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.040 of course I will. Okay, if I would do it 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:16.400 to Shannon Sharp fellow with his guns. That one was tough, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:22.800 the Shannon Sharp impersonation. While it is good. I made Fritzie. 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.920 I was like, oh, Todd, he does a Shannon Sharp impersonation. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:30.160 Yes see, didn't Paul do? Uh? Andrew luck to Andrew Lush? Yeah, 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.760 that was fantastic. That's a tough because that was prime 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:40.680 Andrew Luck. He wasn't retired. Flip phone. I love my 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:49.880 flip phone. My parents have nonsense that dopey SIU kid, 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:59.880 I'm getting at gotta go PTA meeting. Would you do 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.360 it in person to Andrew Luck? Yeah, yeah, because he 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.040 doesn't seem like he's gonna strike out. You know, he 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:08.760 may cut me out of the book club. But yeah, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.320 I would do it because I did it one. I 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.120 was sweating though, because that's awkward to it all. Put 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.400 on the phone that he called in. He wasn't there 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.440 next to us, and even then I was a little sweaty. Yeah, 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.320 Fritzie says he'll do it in front of Patrick Mahomes 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.960 vote against against. I just feel like I have to 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.000 say that I vote against it. I just don't want 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:35.520 to experience that moment. I'm leaning that way. Um, I'm 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.280 gonna say go for it. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say, 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.640 let's go for let's roll the dice. It's not like 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.600 I came up with that. There was a million jip 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.160 skips or whatever about Kermit the Frog. I just kind 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:47.880 of jumped on it so like I could, you know 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.160 what he kind of sounds a little Kermit the Frog spey. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.520 How's that? Man? You don't sound good. I got a 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.880 little bit of still a little bit of Yeah, you're 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:06.520 not coming in tomorrow, tomorrow another meat Friday. No, you're 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.320 not coming in tomorrow. Can't do What about Monday? You 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:15.280 come in on Monday? Maybe maybe? Maybe? Oh, well, you 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.560 gotta test negative here, like I just I can't. I 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.880 can't do that. Okay, No, we gotta do we gotta 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:22.720 be smart. No, look, I'd love to have you in, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.480 like to have you in. Yeah, I think you guys 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:31.240 like this whole arrangements. That's all right, you're not shooting 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.560 it down. Yeah, Paul See and I were talking earlier. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.840 We can't really tell the difference because we have our 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.520 BackStar Fritzie during the show, and he's usually doesn't say 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.560 utter one word during the show, and he doesn't get 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.440 up or move or do anything during the show. So 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.800 the TV is there with his head there, it's like 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.760 there's no difference. He still emails most of his communication 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.400 with us if he's sitting right there. Yea, yeah, I've 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.160 gotten the same amount of email from Fritzie I would 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:55.560 if he was next to me, and the same amount 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.960 of in our personal conversation and when we when I 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.120 during the curser break, I walk into the kitchen, I 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.800 walk right by your monitor. I actually think you can 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.760 see me walking by you, but you can't, so it 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.000 feels like you're you're here, but we do miss you. 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:16.439 What's for meat Friday? I don't know that. Tune in tomorrow. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.720 Tune in tomorrow. I have no idea. All right, let 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:21.840 me take a break. We'll check in with the Lakers 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.399 coming up right after this Dan Patrick Show. 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Be 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.560 sure to catch up US Live every weekday morning nine 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.560 until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.520 Radio and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.320 at FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.080 This just in from our good buddy Rick Stroud, who 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:18.800 covers Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Leonard Fournette is practicing. Ronald Jones 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.680 is out of the boot and doing some work as well. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:31.480 Let's see Tristan Worfs is not practicing. Ryan Jensen is. Well, 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.960 that's what I care about. It's nice to have Leonard 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:38.400 Fournette back and Ronald Jones, but Ryan Jensen is practicing. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.960 Tristan Worfs is not. More phone calls coming up. We 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:47.320 will bring back Pauli's impersonation of Andrew Luck to Andrew Luck, 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:52.159 and I'll bring back my Lou Holtz impersonation to Lou Holtz. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:57.560 Those were so uncomfortable, they were awesome. Though. Bill oorm 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.920 covers the Lakers for The Athletic. He's been a busy guy. 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.920 If somebody didn't see the game last night, how would 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:10.199 you describe how the Lakers played well? I think at 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:11.680 the end of the game, I tweeted that it was 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.640 a dreadful result, and you know it's it's it's really 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:17.920 an accumulation of a lot of things. The Pacers aren't 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:19.960 very good. They'd lost ten of their last eleven games. 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.840 The Lakers had a fifteen point lead in the first quarter, 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.639 they got thirty points from Lebron James, and you know, 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.480 I'd say Russell Westbrook wasn't doing the things that we 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.040 usually think of as being bad RUSS things. He only 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.200 had one turnover, he shot four of six from three, 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.359 but he still ended up having a terrible night from 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.879 the field. He was not finishing around the rim, and 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:40.720 he ends the night on the bench, something we haven't 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.119 seen this year with Frank Vogel, who's kind of, you know, 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:45.960 really coaching for his job, as we reported earlier this 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.119 week on kind of a night to night basis, you know, 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.399 throwing the kitchen sink at the Pacers, which in this 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.000 case was not playing the highest the forty four million 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.240 dollars guy. Yeah, I'm just I'm just trying to understand 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.879 if this is fixable, Bill, because it feels like, Okay, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.639 get rid of the coach. That doesn't fix effort, And 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:05.640 a lot of what I saw, or what I see 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:10.200 on defensively is there's no effort. So how do you 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:14.000 fix this? Can you fix this this season? Yeah, I 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.360 mean that's I think that's what the front office is way. 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.320 You know, what do you sacrifice this season in the 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.280 name of, you know, pursuing a championship when that might 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.639 already be lost with this team. And you know, you 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:30.320 do see coaching changes sort of shake up a team, psyche, 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.440 give them a kickstart, you know, a kick in the 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.639 butt whatever. But we've also seen the Lakers play for 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:37.879 David Fizdale this year. They went one and four with 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.000 him when when Frank Vogel had COVID And that's maybe 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.720 an unfair way of judging David Fizdale's a potential replacement 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.359 given all that all that was going on with replacement players. 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:48.359 But I do think the Lakers sort of got a 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:50.320 glimpse of what that might look like. And if they 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.360 weren't you know, um, you know, if they weren't really 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.480 excited about that, you know, maybe that gives them pause 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.920 on making a change. And you know, last the last 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:00.680 previous two years, Jason Kidd on the bench, and that 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.359 was somebody the Lakers held in really high regard, somebody whom, 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:06.280 if not for some of the baggage, might have been 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.879 a candidate for the head coaching job in twenty nineteen. Instead, 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.840 he kind of comes to the Lakers and rehabs his image. 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:13.399 He would have been likely, he would have been a 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.359 really obvious replacement if there was a mid season firing 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.880 while he was on the bench. It's less obvious now 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.879 with David Fizdale and Phil Handy and Mike Penberthy as 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.080 the lead assistants. So it's really what what do you 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.480 want to sacrifice this year in the pursuit of something 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.480 short term when you know, I don't like like like 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:37.000 like you Dan, you know, this doesn't seem like something 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:40.320 that is just going to UM is going to change 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.760 with a new voice. What can they do with the 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:46.760 trade deadline? Very limited? Right? I mean they have, you know, 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.720 basically three tradeable pieces. When you look at UM, you 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.440 know Kaylen Horton Tucker who makes ten million dollars, Kendrick 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.080 Nunn makes five million dollars. And then they have a 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.440 first round pick way out in twenty twenty seven, when 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.560 you know, hopefully I'm going to be on a rowboat 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:04.000 fishing bass somewhere by then, but but you know, and 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:05.920 then and then yeah, okay, maybe you got some second 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:07.920 round picks. We know they were interested in Cam Reddish 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:09.639 from the Hawks for you within the Knicks, and they 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.080