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Speaker 2: in the SWBC studio. Today we preview the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 2: defense taking on the Atlanta Falcons as we officially turned
Speaker 2: the page to Week nine of the NFL season, alongside
Speaker 2: Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam in the back,
Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeman's glad you're with us, gentlemen. How are
Speaker 2: we doing today? We're doing, We're doing, We're doing up.
Speaker 2: It's Wednesday. Let's see.
Speaker 4: Uh, let's see who practices for the Cowboys today and
Speaker 4: let's see who doesn't. This is the first day we
Speaker 4: start to figure out on a weekly basis. This is
Speaker 4: the latest week we start to figure out if guys
Speaker 4: like Dron Bland have a chance, if Michael Parsons has
Speaker 4: a chance, and we'll kind of go from there.
Speaker 2: Do you think anybody has a chance out of those
Speaker 2: those two?
Speaker 5: Specific walker Michael Parsons better in this game.
Speaker 2: I'm for you. Oh hey, listen, I'm coming for you.
Speaker 2: I do what I can.
Speaker 6: I've saved, I've hit them with Miyagi.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You have done like I've
Speaker 2: done all of this. At least you're doing it. I'm
Speaker 2: doing my part.
Speaker 4: But no, seriously, man, I'm right there with you. Michael
Speaker 4: Parsons absolutely needs to be on the field for this game.
Speaker 4: If he if he can go, then you know, we'll
Speaker 4: see how it goes. But I mean, Darn Bland is
Speaker 4: a little bit of a different story in that Whereas
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons is not on injured reserve, so there's not
Speaker 4: that decision to be made. The decision has to be
Speaker 4: made today on if ter Ron Bland is going to
Speaker 4: be put on the active roster, and if he's not
Speaker 4: put on the active roster, then he reverts to season
Speaker 4: ending IR so kind of a massive day in that regard.
Speaker 4: You would anticipate he would just anticipate he's going to
Speaker 4: be at a fifty three man roster and then from
Speaker 4: there he can be inactive, right, but he has to
Speaker 4: go on because the twenty one day windows started three
Speaker 4: wednesdays ago, literally twenty one days ago. So now and
Speaker 4: that Cowboys can't continue to slow play it, like you said,
Speaker 4: if they want to with dron Bland and you know,
Speaker 4: but what you don't want to do is have him
Speaker 4: become ready at some point in the season, and now
Speaker 4: he's on season ending ir so the smart thing to
Speaker 4: do would be the obvious thing, and you put him
Speaker 4: on the active fifty three man roster. We'll see what
Speaker 4: the corresponding roster move would be in that they.
Speaker 2: Moved John Stevens. They did this past week over wa
Speaker 2: signed Over Warre and and that was a corresponding move.
Speaker 4: So we'll see presumably Deron Bland goes to the fifty three,
Speaker 4: who comes off with the fifty three as a corresponding
Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean that Duran is going to play
Speaker 4: against the Falcons. What would indicate that is if he
Speaker 4: returns to practice, like actually returns to practice, because he
Speaker 4: was d and p all last week.
Speaker 7: So at this point we got to see the Friday
Speaker 7: practice report right, because Thay.
Speaker 4: Three weeks ago before the try, he was full full
Speaker 4: and then DMP and he's been Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think there was I think there was a setback
Speaker 2: because everything was pointing in the direction that he was
Speaker 2: gonna play. He's gonna play.
Speaker 5: People were talking frobout the building, every indication.
Speaker 2: With every indication, and sure enough, not only did he
Speaker 2: not play, but he goes d n P on Friday,
Speaker 2: goes into the bye week. Everybody's like, ah, he'll be
Speaker 2: good after the bye week. D m p'd all last
Speaker 2: week and it's just I think something they said it
Speaker 2: was soreness there. Stephen Jones reported it as soreness as
Speaker 2: the setback.
Speaker 4: I think it may have been something in itself. Hindsight
Speaker 4: feels as if that was downplayed.
Speaker 2: I think so too, so I think so so.
Speaker 4: Transactionally, I expect that to be a thing for Deron today.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask a question on that too though.
Speaker 2: But uh, if they were to put him on the
Speaker 2: active roster, and in order to do so, you would
Speaker 2: you would eliminate that twenty one day practice window. He
Speaker 2: does not have to revert back to season ending. Ir correct.
Speaker 2: How quickly. If let's say worst case scenario happens and
Speaker 2: it was a significant setback, how quickly could they turn
Speaker 2: around and put them back on IR for four weeks?
Speaker 2: If you put him back on IR, he's done. You
Speaker 2: can't do it twice. You cannot do it twice. Cash.
Speaker 4: That's to keep teams from doing that, Yeah, from going
Speaker 4: correct back and.
Speaker 2: Forth, fifth teams from hustling the system.
Speaker 7: That means if he is on the active roster, then
Speaker 7: at least you know he will be back at some
Speaker 7: point this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so's wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Transactionally, I expect he'll be back on fifty
Speaker 4: three man rusted.
Speaker 2: It's not like fantasy where he can put him on
Speaker 2: IR every since. Not Yahoo, This is not. So We'll see.
Speaker 4: I mean, today's first at practice day. They'll be on
Speaker 4: practice field at twelve fifty today. Mike McCarthy will talk
Speaker 4: at twelve noon today. We'll see if he gives any
Speaker 4: insight into you know, Yale green light the transaction or
Speaker 4: if he slow plays it. But I still expect to
Speaker 4: be done even if he doesn't, you know, show the hand.
Speaker 4: See if Mike talks about Micah and the status of
Speaker 4: Micah and you know, if there's anyone else that he's
Speaker 4: looking to help contribute in a big way that just
Speaker 4: has not been able to.
Speaker 6: However, that might be practice squatter.
Speaker 7: Otherwise, magic wand you could heal any player.
Speaker 5: On the roster. Who would it be at this point.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say DeMarcus.
Speaker 2: I thought about that too.
Speaker 4: The reason I said DeMarcus is because Micah should be
Speaker 4: like right there, DeMarcus is still on IR. So if
Speaker 4: I got it, if I could waive the magic wand
Speaker 4: and like delete him from IR and put him back.
Speaker 4: Anybody back on the field, the elite, delete the elite,
Speaker 4: it will.
Speaker 2: Be DeMarcus Lawrence. You need, you need, you need to
Speaker 2: improve this run defense. My first thought was DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 2: run defense. That, yeah, I need some help because we've
Speaker 2: got a guy called Beijon Robinson coming up this week.
Speaker 2: That's he's pretty decent. Who was that he's pretty good running?
Speaker 2: Say fewer things like that. I'm sorry, I don't like
Speaker 2: I don't like what you're saying, pure and simple. That's
Speaker 2: that was my first thought. Is give me the magic
Speaker 2: wand come on come on back, Dlow, come on back, buddy.
Speaker 5: I'm still I'm still with MI on this one.
Speaker 7: I just feel like you have to account first what
Speaker 7: he's doing.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not going to say assuming, but I'm
Speaker 4: optimistic he's Mikey is back this week. So because I'm
Speaker 4: optimistic about that, I'm going d I'm not going to
Speaker 4: waste yeah, over your shoulders. I'm not going to waste
Speaker 4: my magic wand on a guy that I presume we'll
Speaker 4: be back this week.
Speaker 6: Anyway, I waste your wish.
Speaker 2: This is a situational hypothetical, is what is happening? Right?
Speaker 2: We're making your hypothetical situational?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: Any other news and notes before we move on to
Speaker 2: the not.
Speaker 4: At the moment, because they're coming off of a Tuesday
Speaker 4: with no activity, no transactions or anything like that. No
Speaker 4: one spoke on the radio. So yeah, we're rolling right,
Speaker 4: No right, chuckle, we're rolling right into Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Let's start this defensive preview by looking inward at this
Speaker 2: Cowboys defense. Of course, across the board, it hasn't been pretty.
Speaker 2: There hasn't been one specific unit that has stuck out
Speaker 2: more than the other. Which unit right now needs the
Speaker 2: most help going into this week against Atlanta. Defensive line
Speaker 2: second level with the linebackers or the secondary with the
Speaker 2: corners and the safeties. Which one are you going on.
Speaker 7: I'm kicking off with the secondary. I feel like the
Speaker 7: weapons that the Falcons have wide receiver wise, I think
Speaker 7: that test will Obviously the defensive line needs to be
Speaker 7: good because they could just run the ball, they could
Speaker 7: stick with it.
Speaker 5: But I think at least with Kirk Cousins on.
Speaker 7: The other side of the ball having an MVP like
Speaker 7: caliber season, the weapons are just too great in my opinion.
Speaker 7: And if you have an AO out there who has
Speaker 7: been serviceable in that role, but without Bland, without Carson,
Speaker 7: it's a tall order. And especially with Trayvon Diggs, who's
Speaker 7: you know, played relatively well, I think that the orders
Speaker 7: a little bit too tall.
Speaker 5: As far as secondary goes.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go with the defensive line, and I'm
Speaker 4: going with this run defense. Specifically, you're going up against
Speaker 4: b Jon Robinson and Tyler Algier. They combined for more
Speaker 4: than nine hundred yards on the ground and five rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 4: That's not to mention what they can do as receivers
Speaker 4: out of the backfield. You're going to have to level
Speaker 4: up your run defense and also seal the edges, and
Speaker 4: that goes to linebackers as well, covering those two guys
Speaker 4: coming out of the backfield to prevent them from beating receivers.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm going with the defensive line with kind
Speaker 4: of a little bit of a plus to the linebackers.
Speaker 4: So let's say defensive front front seven front seven.
Speaker 2: For me, Atlanta has the best duo of running backs
Speaker 2: except for Detroit.
Speaker 6: That you say so far this.
Speaker 2: Season, Detroit's the only other team that has that type
Speaker 2: of weaponry with two backs. And the thing about it is,
Speaker 2: it's just like Detroit that complement each other. It's not
Speaker 2: just Montgomery and Gibbs. Montgomery's kind of the bulldozer bell
Speaker 2: coal over and over again. Red zone back Jumior Gibbs
Speaker 2: is that speeds through with some elusiveness and some lateral ability.
Speaker 2: You've got two guys in Bijon Robinson who can do
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything. Bijeon's a complete tailback. He
Speaker 2: can do it all. He can run heavy, he can
Speaker 2: run quick, he can run lateral, he can block, he
Speaker 2: can do all of it. That's why he was a
Speaker 2: top pick in the drug correct.
Speaker 7: But you look at the two headed monster of Darnell
Speaker 7: Mooney and Drake London and I think it's.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not there yet. I'm not there.
Speaker 5: Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But then you've got Tyler Tyler Algier behind them behind
Speaker 2: and he's a bowling ball. He's a guy who's going
Speaker 2: to run the football. So you look at that in
Speaker 2: terms of the weaponry that Atlanta has, and then you
Speaker 2: look at the wide receivers and you say, okay, you've
Speaker 2: got Mooney, You've got you've got Drake London. Yes, then
Speaker 2: you've also got Kyle Pitts. This is the closest offense
Speaker 2: in terms of Atlanta that Dallas is faced to Detroit
Speaker 2: so far. That's the close This is the closest thing.
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins is a game manager to a point where
Speaker 2: he can just kind of think it, dun'k it, toss
Speaker 2: it around. But that's not all he can do either.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like Jared Goff.
Speaker 5: No, well, look at his last game.
Speaker 7: He averaged nine point five yards, four touchdowns, four touchdowns,
Speaker 7: no interceptions, eighty percent completion percent.
Speaker 2: No, he is a that's that's.
Speaker 5: Arguably pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I'm comparing this as this is Detroit Junior.
Speaker 2: It's not Detroit. It's not the Lions offense, but they're
Speaker 2: very comparable in the way that they're built and the
Speaker 2: way that they're managed, and they're going to try and
Speaker 2: do the exact same thing Detroit did to you, which
Speaker 2: is run it, run it, run it, and then big
Speaker 2: bomb over at the top. The guys like Sam la Porter,
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts, guys like guys like Jamison Williams, Drake London.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got so many different guys, Miners, Saint Brown,
Speaker 2: You've got Mooney, I mean, all of it.
Speaker 7: That is a scary comparison. If you think about it
Speaker 7: like that, that's actually like scary accurate.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but like I said, it has to start with spooped.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he shook it before Halloween tomorrow, shook it spooky season.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean that's why for me, it has
Speaker 4: to be the defensive line, in the defensive front seven,
Speaker 4: because if you can do your best to bottle up
Speaker 4: that run rushing attack with Robinson and Algier. And that
Speaker 4: also goes to, like I said, the linebackers keeping them
Speaker 4: in the backfield from being receivers, because the Falcons' third
Speaker 4: leading receiver is b John Robinson, so.
Speaker 6: Hate that yeah he can.
Speaker 2: I don't like that, right.
Speaker 4: So if you are not able to stop that two
Speaker 4: headed rushing attack slash receiving attack out of the backfield,
Speaker 4: your cornerbacks are going to have a much longer day
Speaker 4: because now they're going to start thinking, should I when
Speaker 4: I when they? If I'm Trayvon Diggs, I would like
Speaker 4: to be purely thinking about coverage. But if my front
Speaker 4: seven isn't playing effectively, then now I got to start thinking, well,
Speaker 4: maybe if I see Bejeon coming out on the edge,
Speaker 4: maybe I need to crash down. Well, guess what as
Speaker 4: soon as I do that over the top of my
Speaker 4: head to Drake London or whomever Kirk Cousins chooses on
Speaker 4: that particular play.
Speaker 6: So, I don't think it works in the verse.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a situation where, oh, if you
Speaker 4: stop the pass, then this Cowboys defense has shown time
Speaker 4: and again that they struggle stopping the run, and then
Speaker 4: that leads to them being unable to consistently stop the pass.
Speaker 2: Atlanta has scored twenty nine point eight points per game,
Speaker 2: so nearly thirty points per game over the last four games.
Speaker 2: It's the fourth most in the NFL over that span.
Speaker 2: And they scored, of course, thirty one points last week
Speaker 2: in the win against Tampa Bay. They've won four of
Speaker 2: their last five games in order to take the lead
Speaker 2: inside the NFC South, We've got more on the Atlanta defense.
Speaker 2: I want to take our first break because I want
Speaker 2: to leave enough time in the final segment for my
Speaker 2: guy Patrick. No c Walker hit some lab coat. So
Speaker 2: when we come back, we'll take a deeper dive into this.
Speaker 2: Which weapon from the Atlanta Falcons worries you the most
Speaker 2: going up against this Dallas defense? Plus what's the Dallas
Speaker 2: percentage to make the playoffs? Now at three and four,
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Speaker 2: as always. We had some great calls yesterday.
Speaker 6: I'll talk fantastic.
Speaker 5: I love it when we get quite a few in.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and spread spread the love, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: new people calling and old people calling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love. There was a lot of hopeism, hope
Speaker 2: kind of throwing out there. And that's one thing I've
Speaker 2: noticed about the Talking Cowboys viewership is there's still certainly
Speaker 2: the the frustrated fan, and there's probably a lot of
Speaker 2: them right now, because I think all of us are
Speaker 2: a little frustrated at times with this football team. Me,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, what are you talking about. But a lot
Speaker 2: of times the callers specifically are very optimistic, and I
Speaker 2: enjoy that. I think it's great. It provides a new perspective.
Speaker 2: And I thought yesterday, right at the end, we had
Speaker 2: a very good call down the stretch that was all
Speaker 2: about optimism. I believe it was Gavin that had the optimism.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you had me ready to run through a brick wall,
Speaker 7: Thank goodness Gavin did.
Speaker 2: But what have you seen? Yeah, not the same today,
Speaker 2: not this march, Gavin, Go ahead, give it a call.
Speaker 6: Recent when you went to sleep, Yeah, I've slept since then.
Speaker 2: Uh, Cowboys at three and four? Do you know the
Speaker 2: percentage off the top of your head of how many
Speaker 2: three and four teams have ever made the playoffs in
Speaker 2: the NFL.
Speaker 7: Top of my head, if you had a guess three
Speaker 7: and four, I'd say twenty nine percent.
Speaker 2: Okay, twenty nine percent, would you say, Pat, I go
Speaker 2: thirty five? Thirty five? Little bit bigger three and four
Speaker 2: teams that have made the playoffs nineteen point two percent
Speaker 2: m GB not good, right, not great? Ball not great,
Speaker 2: but not great.
Speaker 5: That puts us in a pickle.
Speaker 2: Forty four times in NFL history that a three and
Speaker 2: four team has made the playoffs forty four. So Dallas
Speaker 2: could be number forty five, could be a nice round
Speaker 2: number forty five. Dallas has done it before. By the way,
Speaker 2: they were three and four back in twenty eighteen. Turn
Speaker 2: Around made the playoffs. They won seven of their last
Speaker 2: eight games in order to do so a little bit
Speaker 2: of a tougher schedule this time around than it was.
Speaker 4: Also eighteen at the trade did they did a thing?
Speaker 2: A thing? Winton got a guy named Amari Cooper that
Speaker 2: helped you kind of turn things around. So might it
Speaker 2: take doing another big thing?
Speaker 5: I mean at what position? At what position?
Speaker 2: What would Yeah, that's a great point. What would you
Speaker 2: do it at?
Speaker 3: MM?
Speaker 2: Well, assume because we can't talk about players specifically, but
Speaker 2: we can.
Speaker 5: Just a guy, just one guy, one position.
Speaker 2: We can't talk no, I mean like yeah, like one spot.
Speaker 5: In theory, it would be a man.
Speaker 2: Theory would be.
Speaker 4: Like the guy on that shirt, you know, man, Just
Speaker 4: just just drop a guy right next to Osa. Just
Speaker 4: drop a guy right next big body defensive. Just drop
Speaker 4: a monster right next to Osa. And let's really get
Speaker 4: this cooking.
Speaker 2: And I mean scrab Aaron Donald off the what not?
Speaker 2: I mean, Maus Smith.
Speaker 4: He's he's shown progress over year one most certainly that is,
Speaker 4: you know, not even arguable.
Speaker 2: He has shown progress.
Speaker 4: Is he where you would like him to be at
Speaker 4: this point as far as mauling guys consistently every single rep?
Speaker 6: He's not quite there yet. He's getting there, but not
Speaker 6: quite there yet.
Speaker 4: And if we're talking about potentially saving the season, trade
Speaker 4: for just an absolute monster. Put him in between Tank
Speaker 4: and Osa and Micah and uh and in front of
Speaker 4: Kendrickson and was shown and go eat these.
Speaker 2: Numbers, by the way, these percentages, I just looked at
Speaker 2: it again. Since nineteen ninety, thirty twenty percent, twenty percent.
Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety, I have made it only one team
Speaker 2: out of two hundred and twenty nine teams that have
Speaker 2: started three and four have won the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 2: only twelve or only twenty one of those teams have
Speaker 2: won their division.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got some pretty good teams in this division.
Speaker 2: There's some decent teams. So this one you're gonna play
Speaker 2: four games against two of the good teams in the division,
Speaker 2: Washington and Philly, and kind of go from there.
Speaker 5: Who's your guy, though, are what position group?
Speaker 2: It's tough, it really is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's not just one position.
Speaker 2: No, you could make a move anywhere and feel pretty good.
Speaker 2: I still would go get an impact wide receiver, even
Speaker 2: with Cooks coming back, even with Trucks coming back, even
Speaker 2: with Cooks coming back. Because my thing is Cooks is
Speaker 2: at the end of his contract at the end of
Speaker 2: this year. Outside of the final eight games last year,
Speaker 2: I don't see anything from Brandon Cooks that would encourage
Speaker 2: me to possibly re sign him and move him further
Speaker 2: into the Dallas or bring him back to Dallas next
Speaker 2: year and beyond. Right this second, while he's the number
Speaker 2: two guy, I would do it. But if you had
Speaker 2: a guy and you could bring him in and it's
Speaker 2: an impact player on the opposite side of ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 2: and you could sign him for a long term deal,
Speaker 2: even if it's not necessarily a huge contract. I would
Speaker 2: rather do that, man. I feel like Brandon Cooks can
Speaker 2: no punt attendency. I love.
Speaker 4: I think he can cook up when he comes back
Speaker 4: fully healthy, I'd be okay with that. Fully healthy.
Speaker 2: I think he just didn't see it before the injury,
Speaker 2: and I'm skeptical when he comes back that it's going
Speaker 2: to be better than it was.
Speaker 4: Before the Yeah, and I know he said in the
Speaker 4: locker room, just on some in some off the cuff
Speaker 4: conversations that it wasn't something that lingered from training camp,
Speaker 4: but players say things around and there was some soreness
Speaker 4: in training camp that caused him to miss some practices
Speaker 4: and just the I don't believe in coincidence. So the
Speaker 4: timing of it right, So that leads me to this statement,
Speaker 4: which is Brandon Cook's coming back from ir completely healthy
Speaker 4: on the back end of a season. We saw what
Speaker 4: he can do with the back end of last season.
Speaker 4: Right when they get him involved, that's gonna be key.
Speaker 4: Get him involved, get him the targets. You do that,
Speaker 4: I think he can keep you off of that trade
Speaker 4: for wide receiver conversation.
Speaker 6: But that's just that's just met.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I think he's a good receiver. The
Speaker 2: one thing about this receiving room, it's not I'm not
Speaker 2: making a trade based on Brandon Cooks or not making
Speaker 2: a trade based on Brandon Cooks. I'm making it because
Speaker 2: I haven't hit in any of these other guys. Jalen
Speaker 2: Tolbert's been such a flash in the pan. I wish
Speaker 2: he would be more consistent, if he could be more
Speaker 2: consistent than great, but the film is telling me otherwise.
Speaker 4: Wishman would bring in that catch, this same thing turping
Speaker 4: his run blocking too.
Speaker 2: He has zero confidence in his hands. Run blocking has
Speaker 2: always been a problem across the board for the wide receivers.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jalen Brooks has been inconsistent. There's nobody outside
Speaker 2: of Ceedee Lamb right now that I trust to throw
Speaker 2: the football too in a big time scenario. And we
Speaker 2: showed that again this past week. Whenever on third down
Speaker 2: you go to Kvanti Turpin and complete pass. Best ball
Speaker 2: that Dack threw all night right through his hands incomplete.
Speaker 2: Another one was into double coverage against Jalen Brooks. I
Speaker 2: don't know why We're throwing to Jalen Brooks and Cavante
Speaker 2: Turpin when the game is on the line to try
Speaker 2: and get a first down in the final waning moments.
Speaker 2: And the reason why is because you can't. You don't
Speaker 2: have another.
Speaker 4: Target in that instance that would rather be Jalen Tolbert
Speaker 4: as the target. Because that's at least something I've seen
Speaker 4: from Jalen Tolbert over the course of these first seven games.
Speaker 4: He's come up with some big throws when he's been
Speaker 4: targeted in a big situation.
Speaker 2: I'm at the point where if Ceedee Lamb is triple covered,
Speaker 2: still try and find a way to throw it. Throw
Speaker 2: in the football because I don't trust anybody else on
Speaker 2: the offense. I don't trust anybody in the wide receiving room.
Speaker 7: And as far as Tolbert goes, I think outside of
Speaker 7: his targets, I don't think he's doing a great job
Speaker 7: as far as run blocking, Like I really think that
Speaker 7: that is a huge lacking well.
Speaker 2: And if you go and look at Troy Aikman's comments
Speaker 2: last week when he was talking about the wide receivers
Speaker 2: and the lack of effort, that's not necessarily pointing fingers
Speaker 2: specifically at Ceedee Lamb. There are a couple of times.
Speaker 2: There are a couple instances it's really pointing fingers at
Speaker 2: the other guys. Yeah, looking pointing fingers directly at at
Speaker 2: Jalen Tolbert, who takes plays off from time to time.
Speaker 2: You've got Cavante Turpin that takes plays off and just
Speaker 2: doesn't have the confidence level. And then Jalen Brooks, who
Speaker 2: is just too inconsistent in what he's doing. Period. So
Speaker 2: I would trade for a wide receiver. That's not the
Speaker 2: only position I would trade for. I would love a
Speaker 2: big body defensive tackle, but the one option I think
Speaker 2: I would rather have Brandon Cooks come back and he's
Speaker 2: not forced, kind of like the Michael Gallup situation where
Speaker 2: he's not forced to be your wide receiver too. Is
Speaker 2: he good enough coming back from injury fully healthy to
Speaker 2: be wide receiver to absolutely? I think Brandon Cooks can
Speaker 2: help your offense, But I just don't think I want
Speaker 2: to put him in that that peg. And that's exactly
Speaker 2: what he's gonna be whenever he comes back, regardless, right
Speaker 2: this second, without another wise.
Speaker 4: Especially considering he will be a free agent next year,
Speaker 4: so he's going to want to prove some things which
Speaker 4: he could work in the Cowboys favor.
Speaker 2: Who you get now? Who you got? But what position
Speaker 2: you get?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 5: Okay it I've changed my tune on this because it
Speaker 5: used to.
Speaker 2: Be wide receiver. You were a wide receiver.
Speaker 7: Wide receiver. I was a wide receiver guy before. At
Speaker 7: least for me right now, I think you need juice
Speaker 7: in the backfield. The fact that you don't have a
Speaker 7: running back that anybody's afraid of. You know, at one
Speaker 7: point I didn't one point nine did not do it
Speaker 7: for me. Like we saw the experiment.
Speaker 2: I love that they tried it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, at least they tried it. You know, you can't.
Speaker 7: It's the definition of insanity, right, doing the same thing
Speaker 7: over and over again expecting a different result. At least
Speaker 7: for me, you need juice in the backfield.
Speaker 5: You need some youth.
Speaker 7: You need some speed, someone that's going to be an
Speaker 7: actual threat for you backfield in the backfield, someone that
Speaker 7: can actually help on screen passes.
Speaker 5: That you like, you're afraid of. To me, it's a
Speaker 5: running back.
Speaker 7: I would really, really I would love to see what
Speaker 7: they do with with some youth back there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a couple of teams that could possibly
Speaker 2: throw some running backs on the trade trade.
Speaker 5: Don't you name names, Kyle.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to, but there's a couple of them
Speaker 2: out there. I'm just saying, Derek's listening, don't you do.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do it. We're gonna hear all which
Speaker 2: weapon on the Atlanta defense worries you the most going
Speaker 2: into this weekend.
Speaker 4: I kind of took my hand on it when I said,
Speaker 4: when I talked about the defensive line, of the defensive front,
Speaker 4: it's b Jeon Robinson for me, for miss b John Robinson.
Speaker 4: He's he's a game wrecker if you allow him to
Speaker 4: be in sometimes even if you don't allow him to
Speaker 4: be a game rerecerd he's going to wreck your game.
Speaker 4: This is a guy, you know, one of the top
Speaker 4: overall picks in the NFL coming out of Texas, and
Speaker 4: he has done nothing except prove why he was one
Speaker 4: of the top overall picks coming out of Texas. So
Speaker 4: five hundred and forty six rushing yards, four rushing touchdowns,
Speaker 4: showing it as a receiver as well, two hundred and
Speaker 4: forty four receiving yards averaging seven point nine yards per reception.
Speaker 4: Those numbers that are better than a lot of wide
Speaker 4: receivers in the NFL, So you don't have to You
Speaker 4: said it eloquently earlier, Kyle. He can do it all.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right, so not only because he can pass
Speaker 4: pro as well. So he can absolutely so he can
Speaker 4: pass pro. He can be a receiver, not just a
Speaker 4: receiver that oh well, he's a press button in case
Speaker 4: of emergency with a dump off and maybe he gets
Speaker 4: you at the line of scrimmage. No, if you get
Speaker 4: the ball in his hands in space, it can easily
Speaker 4: be a first down conversion. Again, he's averaging almost eight
Speaker 4: yards per catch, and not all of those are eight
Speaker 4: yards of depth, right, Those a lot of yak yards
Speaker 4: for b John Robinson.
Speaker 6: So that's as a receiver.
Speaker 4: As a running back, he's powerful because a lot of
Speaker 4: people think because he's so shifty, because he's so quick,
Speaker 4: because he has that speed, that he.
Speaker 2: Won't just run right through you.
Speaker 4: But oh, you would be incorrect in that assessment, because
Speaker 4: he will run right through you as well. So for me,
Speaker 4: it's b John Robinson. He can be an absolute terror
Speaker 4: for the Falcons and against the Cowboys, who I mean,
Speaker 4: even if they had solid run defense, I would still
Speaker 4: say be John Robinson. But you don't have solid run defense.
Speaker 4: You have run defense that's been struggling weekend, week out,
Speaker 4: and now it's going up against one of the best
Speaker 4: running backs in the league in Bjon. So I think
Speaker 4: this game will go as the Cowboys allow Bijeon to
Speaker 4: go if they can, and this is going to be
Speaker 4: a tall ask. If you can shut down or contain Bijon,
Speaker 4: the rest of the game doesn't become easy, but it
Speaker 4: becomes easier.
Speaker 5: That's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 7: But okay, these are the Atlanta Falcons, man, and I
Speaker 7: think one of the things that they've had consistently throughout
Speaker 7: the years, and I'm gonna cheat just to go for it,
Speaker 7: tiny bit. It's the dual threat of Drake London and
Speaker 7: Darnel Mooney. If you look at the history of the
Speaker 7: Atlanta Falcons, they've had these tandems a lot. I mean,
Speaker 7: if you think of Roddy White and Julio Jones, I mean,
Speaker 7: they've had the wide receivers that are basically polar opposites
Speaker 7: of each other. One is a possession guy, tall, the
Speaker 7: other is short and speedy and quick. With Drake Lennon
Speaker 7: Darnel Mooney, I think that tandem, especially going up against
Speaker 7: a uh some holes in the secondary.
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna have you hear.
Speaker 10: How who are the.
Speaker 2: Uh it's gonna be yeah, all right, Mickey, Mickey Mouse
Speaker 2: not Mickey's back.
Speaker 4: There's an episode, there's an episode of Family Guy with
Speaker 4: Stewie does that. And if you know, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna go out into just YouTube. It's just Stewie
Speaker 4: high pitched voice. He keep with every question in his paragraph,
Speaker 4: he keeps going higher and higher.
Speaker 6: Is that what we're doing?
Speaker 7: It is the tandem of Drake Lennon learning for me
Speaker 7: with a yeah, banged the backfield. I think that's gonna
Speaker 7: be tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Forty eight receptions, five and twenty five receiving yards
Speaker 2: and uh touch or five touchdowns for Drake London, time
Speaker 2: for fourth in the NFL with five receiving touchdowns. Darnell
Speaker 2: Mooney has four touchdowns as well. So can't count those
Speaker 2: guys out. I'm gonna go with Patrick here specifically because
Speaker 2: b John Robinson and Patrick are like this. It's October,
Speaker 2: right it is, which means the Fall Classics going on.
Speaker 2: There's a little baseball happening. You hear about in baseball
Speaker 2: scouting A five tool player. Oh yeah, five tool player.
Speaker 2: B John Robinson is a five tool player, and in
Speaker 2: baseball specifically, it is hit for average, Okay, four point
Speaker 2: seven yards per carry. He's efficient as the number three
Speaker 2: receiver overall on this Atlanta Falcons team, behind the two
Speaker 2: guys we just mentioned in Mooney and Drake London. So
Speaker 2: there you go, hitting for average, hitting for power. Dude,
Speaker 2: he's just straight power, that's all he is. He's rocked
Speaker 2: up as an individual. You can use him as a
Speaker 2: bell cow back. You can use him as a don't start,
Speaker 2: don't start with me. You get He's a great, solid,
Speaker 2: powerful player. Yes, whenever it comes to bell cow back explosiveness,
Speaker 2: you can do it either way. Then you got speed.
Speaker 2: There's the explosiveness. He's got the speed to get through
Speaker 2: the edge. He's got the latteral ability arm strength. Of course,
Speaker 2: you're not throwing the football at all, but we'll just
Speaker 2: equate it to overall strength and being able to push
Speaker 2: the pile. He's got that. And then fielding ability. I'll
Speaker 2: equate fielding ability to pass pro. Yes, in terms of
Speaker 2: a running back, Yes like it, And so I would
Speaker 2: say pass pro is exceptional for B. Jhon Robinson. Is
Speaker 2: he top five in the league in that category now?
Speaker 2: But I would give him a plus grade in doing so,
Speaker 2: and so across the board. B Jon Robinson a five
Speaker 2: tool player and players like that have given problems to
Speaker 2: Dallas this season. I'm gonna name the four guys, top
Speaker 2: four guys in the NFL right now in terms of
Speaker 2: scrimmage yards. It stopped me. If you've heard of these
Speaker 2: guys so far this season already? Number one, Derrick Henry,
Speaker 2: seen him already. How did that go for you?
Speaker 12: Great?
Speaker 2: Not great? Not great? Number two, we haven't seen him yet,
Speaker 2: but you'll see him twice. Saquon Barkley, who's had a
Speaker 2: great year so far for the Philadelphia station. You'll see
Speaker 2: him twice.
Speaker 13: Go.
Speaker 2: Number three on that list, Alvin Kamara, you've seen him before.
Speaker 6: He had a daw did that show?
Speaker 5: He heard it?
Speaker 2: Hi can go well. Four touchdowns for Alvin Kamara against you.
Speaker 2: B John Robinson's number four on that list, and he's
Speaker 2: not far off from Derek Henry, Saquon Barkley, Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 2: That's the type of individual you're facing this week against
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. I'm worried. I'm worried about it, and
Speaker 2: they've got to change a pace back to Tyler Algier,
Speaker 2: who I think does a phenomenal job. He's kind of
Speaker 2: one of the more underrated backs in the NFL right
Speaker 2: coming out of BYU. Just a guy who does it
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 7: Not quite the Detroit tandem, but no, I think Bjon
Speaker 7: is taking over a lot of those responsibilities.
Speaker 2: Where the Detroit tandem is very, very subjective, and it
Speaker 2: could go anywhere from fifty five to forty five percent
Speaker 2: between the two on a day to day basis, and
Speaker 2: it kind of fluctuates a couple points Bijon, it's really
Speaker 2: seventy thirty or seventy five to twenty five. Like they
Speaker 2: they rely on Bjhon heavily because he's a complete player,
Speaker 2: because he's a five tool guy. When we come back
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Speaker 6: Yes, science, yes, science all right.
Speaker 4: So, like I said before the break, we are going
Speaker 4: to use this as a segue to talking about the
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Speaker 6: Sick all right, So Sick, let's talk about.
Speaker 2: The number one Numero Uno.
Speaker 4: The Dallas Cowboys have had an issue this two issues
Speaker 4: actually this season on one issue being their inability to
Speaker 4: take the b all the way, the other issue being
Speaker 4: the willing not willingness, but the inability to not give
Speaker 4: the ball away. Okay, Dak Prescott has his past three
Speaker 4: games two interceptions a piece, first players since Troy Aikman
Speaker 4: did that in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2: Troy Aman did go on to win the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: that year. So I don't know, but.
Speaker 6: There's there's some historical that. Good, Boby, that's great, Bob,
Speaker 6: do that TGV. Dude, you know what.
Speaker 2: Let's just let's let's make sure and repeat history this time, Dak,
Speaker 2: what do you say about it? Let's let's go and
Speaker 2: do it all right.
Speaker 4: So, going back to the numeral uno, when Dak throws
Speaker 4: no interceptions, When no interceptions are thrown in the game,
Speaker 4: he is fifty one and fourteen. Fifty one and fourteen.
Speaker 4: That changes wildly once he throws an interception. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 4: when one interception is thrown, he's seventeen for sixteen. So
Speaker 4: he's just he becomes a five hundred quarterback. Now, when
Speaker 4: we're talking QBU records, let's all the science, all the
Speaker 4: variables matter. What is your defense doing? Again, defense is
Speaker 4: unable to take the ball way to wash away that
Speaker 4: giveaway that you just had. Are you able to score
Speaker 4: more touchdowns than the interceptions. That's also one problem that
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott is having. He's not thrown for more touchdowns
Speaker 4: than interceptions in any of the games this year in
Speaker 4: which he has more than one interception, right, so he
Speaker 4: has two interceptions. The max that he's had for touchdowns
Speaker 4: has been two. So it's just the math Dame math
Speaker 4: in there in his favor. Right when he throws two
Speaker 4: or more interceptions in the career, as he has over
Speaker 4: the past three games, and in four games this season
Speaker 4: he's seven and sixteen, So there is this event horizon
Speaker 4: all things.
Speaker 2: That's seven number is actually a little surprising that it's
Speaker 2: that high.
Speaker 6: Well, that's fair, but then I.
Speaker 2: Figured it would be lower and more losses two things.
Speaker 4: When your defense is taking the ball away as it
Speaker 4: has been in seasons prior to this one, and when
Speaker 4: you're out throwing the interceptions with the touchdowns as he
Speaker 4: has been doing in seasons prior.
Speaker 2: To this one, you can't have like a four touchdown
Speaker 2: game two interceptions.
Speaker 6: Rh late thing exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't have a two touchdown game with
Speaker 4: one to a two interception game with one touchdown or
Speaker 4: two interceptions with two touchdowns and no takeaways from your defense,
Speaker 4: All those things work together. But the fact is the
Speaker 4: fact when he throws one interception, just one, that Winnie
Speaker 4: percentage drops quite a bit, and it has to be
Speaker 4: bullied again by things that are not happening. Where's your takeaways?
Speaker 4: Where's your touchdowns? When he throws two or more, it
Speaker 4: really goes in tailspins. There the point differential this season,
Speaker 4: in the four games in which Dak Prescott has thrown
Speaker 4: a single in at least one interception and he's thrown
Speaker 4: two four times, that's what it has.
Speaker 6: Eight seventy two.
Speaker 4: Points for the Cowboys, one hundred and thirty eight points
Speaker 4: for the opposition. So again, it's not simply that the
Speaker 4: interception was thrown, it's that the touchdowns are not being
Speaker 4: thrown to counteract those. Okay, point differential is wild. But
Speaker 4: when he commits no turnovers whatsoever, that includes no loss fumbles,
Speaker 4: Cowboys are back in good space. Forty three and ten
Speaker 4: as a career record for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2: So I say that to.
Speaker 4: Say you need to do two things, three things. Actually, Okay,
Speaker 4: we all know you need to score touchdowns. You know
Speaker 4: you need to score touchdowns, make it happen. But if
Speaker 4: your defense is going to continue to struggle with taking
Speaker 4: the ball away. That means you no longer have that eraser.
Speaker 4: You cannot throw interceptions.
Speaker 6: Not even one.
Speaker 4: So now we're approaching perfection, daph and that's dangerous air
Speaker 4: because how often is it that even the elite quarterbacks
Speaker 4: in the league, how often is it that they have
Speaker 4: to play perfect football to win a game? And maybe
Speaker 4: you can get away with that for one game Jered
Speaker 4: Goff had an eighteen for eighteen. Maybe you can get
Speaker 4: away with an elite quarterback having a perfect game once,
Speaker 4: but if you need him to do that seventeen times
Speaker 4: every game, you're in trouble.
Speaker 7: It also doesn't help, Like you don't want Dak to
Speaker 7: be throwing thirty eight times in a game, And that
Speaker 7: leads me to there you go, the running game, like
Speaker 7: the fact that it is there you go, it is
Speaker 7: not non existent. It means you have to lean on
Speaker 7: Dak throwing the ball thirty eight times a game, which
Speaker 7: is not what you want. You want him at twenty five, Matt.
Speaker 4: The only way you would be okay with Dak Prescott
Speaker 4: throwing down there forty times a game is if the
Speaker 4: touchdowns were coming with that right, and they're not because
Speaker 4: the more you throw, the more opportunity there is for
Speaker 4: a mistake.
Speaker 2: You're talking about the Kellen Moore offense at that point, Yeah,
Speaker 2: at that.
Speaker 4: Point of time, if you're right, if you're talking about
Speaker 4: throwing consistently, that you got to know every time you
Speaker 4: put that ball in the air, that's an opportunity for
Speaker 4: something to go wrong. That's first and foremost, and then
Speaker 4: the only way that you can watch that forty times
Speaker 4: I would take I don't want this to happen consistently,
Speaker 4: But if he had to.
Speaker 2: Outthrow Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4: For example, if after the game, I looked at that
Speaker 4: stat line and it was Dak Prescott threw forty one
Speaker 4: times for three seventy five he had, you know, two interceptions,
Speaker 4: but he had touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I'll be down for that.
Speaker 6: I'm taking that. I'll take that.
Speaker 4: However, if he throws forty one times and it's two
Speaker 4: interceptions and it's one touchdown and it's two hundred and
Speaker 4: seventy five yards, that's probably a loss. So it's it's
Speaker 4: all contextual. But until the Cowboys get their offense humming
Speaker 4: in the end zone, or until the defense starts humming
Speaker 4: and taking the ball away, Dak Prescott really kind of
Speaker 4: has to play perfect football.
Speaker 2: That's tough. I remember seeing and I wish I remembered
Speaker 2: off the top of my head, who includes running, Yes,
Speaker 2: who tweeted this out after the game, But it was
Speaker 2: the tweet red Dak Prescott's second interception broke this football team.
Speaker 2: And this was this past week against San Francisco.
Speaker 5: It was the backbreaker for sure.
Speaker 2: It was in that game, at least in that game specifically,
Speaker 2: it absolutely was. And then that's that's not all on Dak.
Speaker 2: It is on Dak specifically because he threw the interception
Speaker 2: and that number back count to the quarterback. It was
Speaker 2: a bad pass, but a lot of it is kind
Speaker 2: of in that mindset like you're talking about, of him pressing,
Speaker 2: of him trying to do too much, of him not
Speaker 2: having the help of play action. We talked about it
Speaker 2: last week. They've run how many players of play action?
Speaker 2: Twenty On the entire season, they've run twenty snaps of
Speaker 2: play actions. And that is the threat because you have
Speaker 2: a zero running attack, zero And this is kind of
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna go all the way back and if
Speaker 2: I need to go get the receipts, I will go
Speaker 2: find the receipts find them. But in training camp we
Speaker 2: talked about it. Man, we talked about it, and I said,
Speaker 2: I'm worried about the running attack. I'm running worried about
Speaker 2: these running backs. I'm worried about the effectiveness that they're
Speaker 2: gonna have because not only does Dak Prescott need a
Speaker 2: rushing attack to throw the football effectively out of play action,
Speaker 2: he needs it to throw the football effectively period, just
Speaker 2: because of the threat that it gives. Teams are daring
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott to throw it into coverage and they're gonna
Speaker 2: they're gonna unload the box, they're gonna drop back, and
Speaker 2: they're gonna let Dak try and pick him apart and
Speaker 2: try and be perfect to go along with what you're saying.
Speaker 2: So the film backs up all the numbers that you
Speaker 2: just gave, and it just continues to snowball as the
Speaker 2: season goes on because teams they see the answers to
Speaker 2: the test before they even take it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're doing.
Speaker 2: Their study in and they're like, oh, okay, we'll just
Speaker 2: dare Dact to beat there.
Speaker 4: And I don't think people understand how concerning it is
Speaker 4: for you to have to have your quarterback play perfect
Speaker 4: football every single week, like it's hyperbole to say, well,
Speaker 4: that's the goal. Of course, that's the goal. That's the
Speaker 4: goal for every quarterback for all thirty two teams.
Speaker 2: Just to go on there every single time.
Speaker 4: Right, But the reality is is it's not going to
Speaker 4: happen often because those are other NFL players that you're
Speaker 4: going up against. They get paid to, they most of
Speaker 4: them got drafted to, They have contracts on the line, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, and then they play up to the.
Speaker 6: Cowboys on top of all of that.
Speaker 4: So when we talk about Dak Prescott would have to
Speaker 4: play perfect football weekend week out until the defense gets
Speaker 4: it figured out and until the other thing gets figured out.
Speaker 4: That also goes to using his legs as well, because
Speaker 4: with the pressure coming from his offensive line, he can't
Speaker 4: stand there and be.
Speaker 6: A statue and take sacks.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys and Dak Prescott's record when he sacked one
Speaker 4: time or fewer forty one and eleven, when he sacked
Speaker 4: one and a half times a greater thirty five and
Speaker 4: thirty four don't just stand back there and move around,
Speaker 4: but create the threat, even if it's just the illusion.
Speaker 4: But in order to create the illusion, you have to
Speaker 4: first create the threat. Okay, so we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 4: For his escapability. If you're going to roll out left
Speaker 4: or right, which I highly advise, if you never crossed the.
Speaker 6: Line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: If I'm a defensive back or a linebacker, why would I
Speaker 4: care that you rolled out. I'm just gonna stay in
Speaker 4: my coverage. I'm gonna stay in my lanes. We're gonna
Speaker 4: stay with my keys and my assignments. Every once in
Speaker 4: a while, you got to break that plane and line
Speaker 4: of scrimmage, and you got to get those yards at
Speaker 4: least once or twice in the game so that the
Speaker 4: next time you roll out, which you probably will have
Speaker 4: to until you get consistent blocking up front. Now they're thinking,
Speaker 4: make them think. Linebacker comes off of his key, middle
Speaker 4: of the field is open for Jake, defensive back comes
Speaker 4: off of his key. Well there you go for Ceedee
Speaker 4: Lamb right there. So you have to make them play.
Speaker 4: So when I say, Dak Prescott right now in this
Speaker 4: version of the Cowboys has to play perfect football.
Speaker 6: I am not exaggerating. He has to.
Speaker 4: But the problem is is, how likely is it, Excuse me,
Speaker 4: how likely is it that he or anyone can.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to take positive yards.
Speaker 7: When you can take what you can, it will take
Speaker 7: what they're giving you. I mean, if if the scramble
Speaker 7: results in a two yard game, that's better than two yards.
Speaker 7: It's better than throwing on second and ten.
Speaker 6: Or getting sacked for a loss of five.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 2: That uh, cleaning cleaning up. A stat that I just mentioned,
Speaker 2: twenty percent of snaps is play action, not twenty snaps.
Speaker 2: I think I was going to say, down, yeah, now
Speaker 2: it's fifty four snaps. Totally, it was twenty percent of snaps.
Speaker 2: Fifty yeah, only one out of every five players you're
Speaker 2: going to play of action? No, correct. I'm want to
Speaker 2: play Devil's advocate, and this will be my final question
Speaker 2: of the day. But Devil's advocate here. I can just
Speaker 2: hear you're talking about it's impossible to play a perfect
Speaker 2: quarterback weekend week out. It's impossible to do so everyone.
Speaker 2: I can just see the comments. But he's getting paid
Speaker 2: sixty million dollars a year. He's the highest paid NFL
Speaker 2: quarterback in history, of highest paid player in NFL history,
Speaker 2: all of the people there, And I'm not saying I
Speaker 2: believe this because I think realistically, you know what the
Speaker 2: quarterback position entails, and it's there's there's room for imperfection
Speaker 2: and you can't do it all yourself. But what do
Speaker 2: you say to people like that that are saying, Hey,
Speaker 2: the contract doesn't matter. He has to play perfect.
Speaker 4: Football Mendoza line. Okay, think about it, and in terms
Speaker 4: of their baseball reference. Yeah, think in terms of Mendoza line.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: The reason players like Ceedee Lamb get paid as they do,
Speaker 4: justin Jefferson gets paid as he do as he does
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow in those guys Josh Allen's and Dak Prescott's
Speaker 4: is because they more often than not play so consistently
Speaker 4: above the Mendoza line that their value dictates that they
Speaker 4: get compensated as such versus Ben Denucci and Matt Cassel
Speaker 4: and who else right.
Speaker 2: In the NEUCI catching stress, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, you know, I'm just saying. But that being said,
Speaker 4: it's none of those players that I talked about this.
Speaker 4: Josh Allen played perfect football every single.
Speaker 2: Day, absolutely not right.
Speaker 4: He led the league and turnover he said. I don't
Speaker 4: know if he still does, but over the past three
Speaker 4: seasons or so.
Speaker 5: But that wasn't on ESPN for four hour cycle.
Speaker 6: That's a whole different story. But you're right.
Speaker 4: So, josh Allen, does he play perfect football? Has he
Speaker 4: ever had a perfect game?
Speaker 6: Never?
Speaker 2: Never? Not ever?
Speaker 4: Okay, Aaron Rodgers, but that's why he assumed joshna perfect game.
Speaker 4: But even Aaron Rodgers first future, first Battle of Hall
Speaker 4: of Famer. Has he always played for perfect football?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: Even has it often?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 6: Okay, Troy when he plays the Cowboys, joh one.
Speaker 4: Of the most accurate quarterbacks in the history of the sport,
Speaker 4: one of the most decorated in the history of the sport.
Speaker 4: Has he did in his time with the Cowboys? Was
Speaker 4: he perfect? Weekend and week out? Now even half of
Speaker 4: the time?
Speaker 2: Was he perfect? No?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's mendoz in line. You pay those guys who
Speaker 4: are consistently in a certain air, but them being compensated
Speaker 4: as such doesn't suddenly magically make them perfect just because
Speaker 4: you pay them that amount, You see what I mean.
Speaker 4: So there are levels to this, and you pay for
Speaker 4: the levels. That's all I'm saying. Dak Prescott, he's an
Speaker 4: MVP candidate last year, All Pro last year. He's shown
Speaker 4: you that he can be in this air in the
Speaker 4: regular season. Yeah, postseason is still.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandon Aubrey is still like that. That Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 7: Kirk Cousins has had a lot of big contracts, fully guaranteed,
Speaker 7: fully guaranteed, has he Ever, kirk Cousin has never had
Speaker 7: a perfect exactly my point.
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, by the way, I think he needs to
Speaker 2: be more so in the MVP conversation with what he's
Speaker 2: doing right now. He has fourteen touchdowns in one interception.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. Ye, he's different, that's different, But just a
Speaker 2: sidebar to what we were talking about. He led the NFL
Speaker 2: last year, the same kind of thing led the NFL
Speaker 2: last year in turnover. It's just as Dak did two
Speaker 2: years ago. Turn around. Dak Prescott was second in MVP
Speaker 2: voting last year, had a phenomenal campaign, was one of
Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in football in twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 2: then now it's kind of an up and down.
Speaker 4: That's where And I'm I won't even pretend to be
Speaker 4: naive and anything. I'm not naiven this. It's the timing
Speaker 4: and the optics. Yeah, right, Because if this contract didn't
Speaker 4: get done quite yet, if it doesn't get done until
Speaker 4: next offseason, then they're not talking about the fans are
Speaker 4: not talking about, Oh, well, he's the sixty million dollar guy.
Speaker 4: He shouldn't be playing like this. The narrative would be different.
Speaker 4: It would be saying, well, he needs to play better
Speaker 4: if he wants sixty million dollars.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: But the fact that he got paid and then that
Speaker 4: time's up with the poor play, it's a perfect storm
Speaker 4: of ungreat things, Bob. So that's kind of where it is.
Speaker 4: I My thing is because I've seen Dak Prescott cook
Speaker 4: up in the regular season time and time again, I'm detached.
Speaker 4: That's what earned him the sixty Now you need to
Speaker 4: work on justifying that this team and that you can
Speaker 4: make a postseason run. But as it stands, the Cowboys
Speaker 4: are playing for football, So right now you need to
Speaker 4: justify the ability to get in the postseason so that
Speaker 4: you can possibly make a run.
Speaker 7: Twenty Yeah, I think a simple answer. As the market
Speaker 7: is the market, the quarterbacks are going to get paid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be the seventh highest paid quarterback in two
Speaker 2: exactly exactly that.
Speaker 6: So like you, he brought you paid for to get.
Speaker 2: His now, so you pay for what you need, I guess.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, the money is the money, and
Speaker 7: that's another man's bag. I'm not going to have. That's
Speaker 7: none of my business, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 7: he got the money that he deserved because of the contract.
Speaker 4: That he is the football on the field, and right
Speaker 4: now focusing on that, it's not Dak Prescott. Excuse me,
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, and he knows it. He needs to play
Speaker 4: better football on the field, period, point blank.
Speaker 6: And let's go from there.
Speaker 2: That does it for us here on Talking Cowboys for
Speaker 2: Patrick No see Walker, phenomenal job on lab Code as always,
Speaker 2: Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam in the back will be the
Speaker 2: to be back tomorrow. Isaiah Stanback will be back in
Speaker 2: the building as well from his ventures on Good Morning Football,
Speaker 2: will preview the Dallas offense versus that Atlanta defense with
Speaker 2: a little QB vision in there as well. That does
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