Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,
Speaker 1: I want to bring your attention to an op ed
Speaker 1: that was written last week by Charles Blow in The
Speaker 1: New York Times entitle America's thirst for authoritarianism, and I
Speaker 1: want to bring it to your attention because as I
Speaker 1: continue to be concerned, which is an understatement about the
Speaker 1: state of our democracy and the willingness of some people
Speaker 1: to just let the whole thing go, this piece really
Speaker 1: stood out to me with stark reasoning as to where
Speaker 1: people are and what the risk is right now. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that people are truly seeing what the
Speaker 1: risk is in the behavior, in the antics, or in
Speaker 1: the language of I'm going to vote my values. I'm
Speaker 1: not voting for Biden. You know, I'm going to sit
Speaker 1: this one out. And what that means across the board.
Speaker 1: First of all, we're not just talking about the presidential
Speaker 1: When people decide not to vote, that means that they
Speaker 1: don't show up at the polls at all, which means
Speaker 1: that there is no vote for governors and state legislatures.
Speaker 1: Those things that we are recognizing more and more are
Speaker 1: incredibly important into having a check in balance on a
Speaker 1: right wing authoritarian wanna be that is in the governor's mansion.
Speaker 1: Look no further than Virginia, because the state legislature was
Speaker 1: put back in Democratic hands. Guess who doesn't have the
Speaker 1: ability to institute his fifteen week abortion plan. Youngkin, Right,
Speaker 1: Glenn Youngin was not only getting ready to probably launch
Speaker 1: a presidential bid, but he was getting ready to put
Speaker 1: into place a fifteen week abortion ban in Virginia. And
Speaker 1: because the state legislature turned blue, they had the veto
Speaker 1: power to be able to deny him the ability to
Speaker 1: deny women and people with uterus access to bodily autonomy. Right,
Speaker 1: So when people say, well, I'm not going to vote
Speaker 1: for Biden, well are you going to the voting booth
Speaker 1: at all? Because then we're looking at your school board
Speaker 1: who is deciding what books to put on the shelf
Speaker 1: or to just put them all right under lock and
Speaker 1: key if it's left up to Republicans. Right, voting down
Speaker 1: ballot matters just as much, if not more, these days
Speaker 1: than voting up ballot. So for those people who continued
Speaker 1: to think that like this is a privilege that can't
Speaker 1: be taken away. I say, look no further than fucking
Speaker 1: abortion right. If people had maybe taken it seriously back
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, when Hillary Clinton was set unding the
Speaker 1: fucking alarm bells about the ability to appoint Supreme Court
Speaker 1: justices and what kind of damage Donald Trump was gonna
Speaker 1: do right two hour democracy. If people had heeded her warning,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be in the fucking position that we're in
Speaker 1: because those Third Party wanted to be like Jill Stein.
Speaker 1: Goers maybe would have thought fucking twice. So I would
Speaker 1: love for us as Americans not to make the same
Speaker 1: mistakes over and over and over again. So Charles Blow
Speaker 1: writes this in his op ed in The New York
Speaker 1: Times entitled America's thirst for Authoritarianism. Trump surely appeals to
Speaker 1: those who want a president who will simply bulldoze through
Speaker 1: that bureaucracy, or at least express contempt for it and
Speaker 1: is willing to threaten it. Furthermore, Trump's chances will probably
Speaker 1: be helped by the portion of the electorate misjudging the
Speaker 1: very utility of voting. There are still too many citizens
Speaker 1: who think of a vote, particularly for president, as something
Speaker 1: to throw to a person they like rather than being
Speaker 1: cast for the candidate and a party more likely to
Speaker 1: advance the policies they need. And there are too many
Speaker 1: who think that a vote should be withheld from a
Speaker 1: more preferable candidate as punishment for not delivering every single
Speaker 1: thing on their wish lists, that choosing not to vote
Speaker 1: at all is a sensible act of political protests rather
Speaker 1: than a relinquishing of control to others. Abstinence doesn't empower
Speaker 1: it neoters if you want a democracy to thrive. The
Speaker 1: idea that voting is a choice is itself an illusion.
Speaker 1: Voting is about survival, and survival isn't a choice. It
Speaker 1: is an imperative. It's an instinct. It's a tool one
Speaker 1: uses for self advancement and self preservation. It's an instrument,
Speaker 1: and you use to decrease chances of harm and increase
Speaker 1: chances of betterment. It is naive to use it solely
Speaker 1: to co sign an individual's character. Not to say that
Speaker 1: character doesn't count, it does, but rather that its primacy
Speaker 1: is a fallacy. Voting isn't just an expression of your worldview,
Speaker 1: but also a manifestation of your insistence on safety and security.
Speaker 1: That is it, folks, That's it. In a nutshell. So,
Speaker 1: like I have been saying, I encourage folks, as you're
Speaker 1: getting ready to potentially gather with friends and with family
Speaker 1: for the holiday season, that you engage in thoughtful conversation
Speaker 1: and dialogue, that you put down your phones, that you
Speaker 1: put down the aggression, and that you get to the
Speaker 1: heart of the matter. Because what is at stake, dear friends,
Speaker 1: isn't just oh, this thing we call democracy, It is
Speaker 1: our very safety right as citizens of this country. There
Speaker 1: will be no one who is safe other than those
Speaker 1: that pledge their full allegiance and loyalty above all else
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump. Everyone else will be at risk and
Speaker 1: risk of what. Well, I'll allow your imaginations to run wild,
Speaker 1: or rather just take some time going through the history books,
Speaker 1: or rather just look around at the instability that we
Speaker 1: are seeing right now, the wars that have outbroken, the
Speaker 1: devastation that is being wielded against those that are seen
Speaker 1: as villains from birth, whether it is deprivation of electricity, food, water, gas,
Speaker 1: the inability to hold jobs, to go to school, all
Speaker 1: of those things, all of those things will be able
Speaker 1: to happen under a second Trump administration. And if you
Speaker 1: think that you will have the opportunity to then cast
Speaker 1: another vote four years later. You will be the full
Speaker 1: coming up next my conversation with our friend, our in
Speaker 1: house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel. Folks. As always when we
Speaker 1: have the opportunity each week to chat with our in
Speaker 1: house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzl, we are always thrilled. On
Speaker 1: this occasion, Jonathan. As we are recording this, the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court has decided to take up the abortion pill case
Speaker 1: that the Department of Justice apparently has asked them to
Speaker 1: take up to decide whether or not the use of
Speaker 1: MiFi pristone, which has FDA approved over the last i
Speaker 1: don't know, two plus decades to handle without any type
Speaker 1: of like surgical medical UH intervention UH issues related to
Speaker 1: the needs around abortion. This is used I believe in
Speaker 1: what a majority of cases.
Speaker 2: Half over half, yeah.
Speaker 1: Over half of abortions use MiFi pristone. This is something
Speaker 1: that if the Supreme Court, which I believe that they
Speaker 1: will decide to overturn the FDA's approval the you know,
Speaker 1: over two plus decades use of MiFi pristone, it will
Speaker 1: not just affect those in red states, which is what
Speaker 1: we have been saying since the overturning of Dobbs that
Speaker 1: this was not a state's issue, that this was a
Speaker 1: push for national abortion. Van talk to us about the
Speaker 1: implication and what you were thinking with regard to the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court taking this up.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, apologies to everybody. I'm clearly suffering
Speaker 3: from non COVID illness, and so I will try to
Speaker 3: articulate as best I can today. We are learning about
Speaker 3: this right now, and so I'm sure by the time
Speaker 3: people hear this, it will be it will be uh,
Speaker 3: you know, it'll be much more known about it. So
Speaker 3: we're just like forming our opinions right now. But I
Speaker 3: feel pretty confident that this will be the biggest case
Speaker 3: since overturning Row versus Wade for exactly the reasons you've said.
Speaker 3: It has profound implications. First of all, because mifipristone is
Speaker 3: so widely used. It's used in over half of abortions. Second,
Speaker 3: because it's used not just in red states but in
Speaker 3: blue states, and so this would be a national issue,
Speaker 3: right It's targeting something that is really you know, made
Speaker 3: sure for people in red and blue states, in places
Speaker 3: where you don't have access to health abortion provider or
Speaker 3: women's health provider. So really profound national implications. And I
Speaker 3: think the other part that we'll play out about this
Speaker 3: again this is just first thoughts, is that the FDA
Speaker 3: approved this drug in two thousand. I actually know one
Speaker 3: of the people who was one of the researchers from
Speaker 3: my residency, and it is safer than pretty much anything
Speaker 3: you can think of. I mean, it's way safer than
Speaker 3: many other medications.
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't eat Jonathan, we don't even have
Speaker 1: to talk about with safety measure of it because we
Speaker 1: know that that's not even the point.
Speaker 3: Nobody here's the important point. The important point is, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's way safer than biograph for example. It's way safer
Speaker 3: than other drugs that have implications for sex and things
Speaker 3: like that. But the question, the issue is this case,
Speaker 3: as I remember, was taken on grounds of safety. So
Speaker 3: that safety is important because they're saying, does the FDA.
Speaker 3: Did the FDA do due diligence for this drug that's
Speaker 3: been out like twenty four years now? Did the FDA
Speaker 3: do due diligence in safety? And if they rule against that,
Speaker 3: it's not just a huge blow to women's reproductive health,
Speaker 3: it's also a blow to the autonomy of the FDA
Speaker 3: to make I mean, FDA is our kind of gold standard,
Speaker 3: world renowned safety organization that everybody in the world bases
Speaker 3: their information on. And so if they're going to undermind
Speaker 3: the FDA about this, that is another massive, massive, massive
Speaker 3: issue because it has regulatory implications where ideology can just
Speaker 3: come in and overturn science.
Speaker 1: I mean, and that is that's the point that I
Speaker 1: want to get to and I want to discuss because
Speaker 1: I find that what we are doing, as Democrats, as progressives,
Speaker 1: as people would sense, is that we continue to argue
Speaker 1: what we already know to be true, which is that
Speaker 1: mifipristone has been on the market for twenty four years
Speaker 1: and is safer than advil, is safer than many of
Speaker 1: your over the counter drugs, the things such as viagra,
Speaker 1: to your point, which are obviously used for the sexual
Speaker 1: pleasure of men, is something that has readily been approved.
Speaker 1: My point is that I find that we are consistently
Speaker 1: on the defensive when it comes to arguing these issues
Speaker 1: that we know are not about the safety of people.
Speaker 1: We actually know that the people that are bringing these cases,
Speaker 1: the folks that sit on the Supreme Court, the Attorney
Speaker 1: General of Texas, they don't care about the safety and
Speaker 1: health of women and people with uteruses. And I find
Speaker 1: that assuming good faith in their arguments has us continually
Speaker 1: in a false place. Am I wrong about that? Like
Speaker 1: we're continuing to say, oh, look, look, look, let me
Speaker 1: tell you all the ways that this is safe, as
Speaker 1: opposed to you're placing your ideology, your religiosity on top
Speaker 1: of science. Is this the twelfth century or is it
Speaker 1: the twenty first century?
Speaker 3: You know, you really have to wonder. I mean, because
Speaker 3: if safety was the issue, MYFI prison five deaths per
Speaker 3: million US for per million users. That's that's less than
Speaker 3: that's less than that Viagras fifty deaths per per million
Speaker 3: users and things like that. So it's just it's it's
Speaker 3: minuscule to help, the safety risk is minuscule. But we're
Speaker 3: seeing into let me look at what's happening in Texas
Speaker 3: right now. They're trying to force a woman to have
Speaker 3: an unviable pregnancy delivered to term. Like it's just you know,
Speaker 3: so this this feels like bodily control really, And I
Speaker 3: think the irony, of course, is that the scary part
Speaker 3: is it's they're using all of our language, like oh,
Speaker 3: health and safety and concern to do the opposite.
Speaker 2: So it's it's scary time.
Speaker 1: But that's my point is that like, if you're going
Speaker 1: to it's like it's people are lying about the premise
Speaker 1: and their concern, then why are we meeting them on
Speaker 1: the issue of concern and safety as opposed to saying
Speaker 1: that this actually has nothing to do with concern and safety.
Speaker 1: Your push against abortion had everything to do with bodily
Speaker 1: it's not. I think it's about bodily control. A woman
Speaker 1: is now being forced to flee the state and then
Speaker 1: return to her home state and be prosecuted as a
Speaker 1: criminal because it was either choose infertility potential death right,
Speaker 1: or use the means that she has that a lot
Speaker 1: of other people don't to go to the nearest state
Speaker 1: where she could get the medical attention that she needs.
Speaker 1: Right we're talking about women sitting in the parking lots
Speaker 1: that testified before the Senate, sitting in a parking lot
Speaker 1: waiting to meet death's door before they're able to be
Speaker 1: operated on in these right states. And I just feel
Speaker 1: like the way in which it's similarly with gun control
Speaker 1: right and gun safety, the way in which we are
Speaker 1: arguing is arguing on their terms and their terms are false.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: No, I mean that's the argument of my new book, Right,
Speaker 3: is that we took the bait thinking that guns were
Speaker 3: a health issue, but really it's about power. And so
Speaker 3: if the issue is about power, your counter strategy has
Speaker 3: to be about power also. And so, as you know,
Speaker 3: you and I will be talking about in person, I
Speaker 3: think that we take the bait. I mean, health is
Speaker 3: an important argument, but if the other side is hell
Speaker 3: bent on power, you actually have to look at the
Speaker 3: mechan of power and figure out how you can counter that.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So one example is we have not paid anywhere near
Speaker 3: enough attention to the relationships between winning elections and seating
Speaker 3: judges over the past thirty years. But all this crap
Speaker 3: is happening now because the other side was like hell
Speaker 3: bent on taking over the judiciary while we were protesting
Speaker 3: health issues. Again, these are massive, massive, massive health issues.
Speaker 3: But why are we in this position. It's because we
Speaker 3: don't have control of the Supreme Court, and we don't
Speaker 3: have control of the lower courts that did this and
Speaker 3: things like that. And so I guess the question for
Speaker 3: me is just very obviously there needs to be a
Speaker 3: concrete strategy for defeating this case, like, I don't know
Speaker 3: how this is going to be argued. I don't know
Speaker 3: how narrow it's going to be, but I think you've
Speaker 3: really mobilize this case, which sounds like it's going to
Speaker 3: go pretty quickly. But then the other issue is everything
Speaker 3: you've been talking about, which is that this all ties
Speaker 3: to like if you think this is bad, wait till
Speaker 3: you see what happens if Trump wins another election, Like
Speaker 3: this is just the warm up, and so you know
Speaker 3: how much how much are we willing to do everything
Speaker 3: we can to win the next election?
Speaker 1: Really, you know? And I think that that like that
Speaker 1: to me is there there are two There are two
Speaker 1: frontiers right now for this right, two places to fight.
Speaker 1: One which is whatever it is that the lawyers are
Speaker 1: going to do inside of the courtroom with the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: The other is the fight with the American people to say,
Speaker 1: you know, you think that you are protected in these
Speaker 1: quote unquote blue bubbles, but you are not right, and
Speaker 1: that this was never going to stop at abortion and
Speaker 1: stop with the states that have trigger laws, that this
Speaker 1: was going to go to mifipristone, then it's going to
Speaker 1: go to contraception as a whole right it's going to
Speaker 1: go to birth control, right, it's going to go to condoms,
Speaker 1: it's going to go to to all of these other places,
Speaker 1: because the point is control. And so if we continue
Speaker 1: to argue right on the merits that this is about
Speaker 1: safety and let us, you know, bring out our stats
Speaker 1: and figures in the press. I'm not talking about in
Speaker 1: the courtroom because even there we already know what. I
Speaker 1: already know what the decision is going to be. If
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court surprises me, okay, but like this is
Speaker 1: the same Supreme Court overturned that overturned fifty years worth
Speaker 1: of precedent. Right, So now all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: think that they're going to say, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we've gone too far. The decisions are already
Speaker 1: made before they hear the arguments, right, So I mean,
Speaker 1: so the point here is that what decision hasn't been made.
Speaker 1: It's a decision about who we are going to elect
Speaker 1: to run this country in November of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: And right now, I'll tell you one thing. What you've
Speaker 1: seen in my comments sections. Every time that I post
Speaker 1: a video that has to do about Biden or an article,
Speaker 1: my comment session section turns to trash with people telling
Speaker 1: me that they're not voting, that they're staying home, so
Speaker 1: forth and so on.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, remember like the Jill Stein stuff about
Speaker 3: how or Cornell West. Also, you know Clinton and Trump
Speaker 3: were the same that kind of stuff in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: but they actually weren't the same, Like, no matter how
Speaker 3: you feel about them as people, they actually would have
Speaker 3: we would not be if Clinton would have won that election.
Speaker 3: You've got to be joking, Like the whole country would
Speaker 3: be different right now, and.
Speaker 1: The world I think would be different right now, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And so you know, I wish we
Speaker 3: had different options, but I also I'm going to vote
Speaker 3: on the options we have, honestly. But to me, that's
Speaker 3: that's you know, the side that's saying, well, I'll I'll
Speaker 3: just vote for the option we have is often at
Speaker 3: a disadvantage against the side that is energized and mobilize
Speaker 3: to like take over the country. Like the other side
Speaker 3: we're against is like smelling power right now, big time.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: You know, I just I don't know, how do you
Speaker 3: respond to those things when people respond that way?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that the point I think that
Speaker 1: the point here is that we've seen the voters respond
Speaker 1: in local elections, in state elections like Ohio, like Kentucky
Speaker 1: and other places to push back against this overt power
Speaker 1: grab that Republicans are on. And so if this administration,
Speaker 1: which has a whole host of other fucking problems, does
Speaker 1: not use this as an opportunity to say, if the
Speaker 1: American people are not with us on everything else, which
Speaker 1: they are not, particularly as it pertains to the actions
Speaker 1: that they continue to take in God and in Israel,
Speaker 1: if the American people are losing faith by the day,
Speaker 1: which they are, then this needs to be the galvanizing issue, right,
Speaker 1: This needs to be the thing, the thing, the word
Speaker 1: that you had to lobby to get Biden to say,
Speaker 1: the word abortion has become the lightning rod for women
Speaker 1: and people with uteruses in this country. And you're saying
Speaker 1: that now you're no like because what this needs to
Speaker 1: say is that you are not protected no matter where
Speaker 1: you are, no matter what state that you were in,
Speaker 1: you are not protected. Right, you were under the control
Speaker 1: and thumb of the Republican white supremaist, misogynist, patriarchal party,
Speaker 1: and they need to beat that drum because that may
Speaker 1: be the only thing that saves them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope that's the case. I mean, we have
Speaker 3: a year to make that argument. That argument is true, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, the people's lives would change in really unimaginable ways.
Speaker 3: And so if people are upset about this, like this
Speaker 3: is just the beginning. I mean, before you know, you
Speaker 3: and I talked about this. You know, facts aside, Right,
Speaker 3: there are many facts that are horrible. But remember the
Speaker 3: very first conversation we had about Gaza, and I said,
Speaker 3: this is a polarizing crisis, right that in a way,
Speaker 3: this is the kind of crisis that divides coalitions in
Speaker 3: ways that enables enables fascism, right and so and so
Speaker 3: I think right now, I mean, there definitely are the
Speaker 3: facts on the ground, there are huge human rights issues,
Speaker 3: but also the amplification of the polarization of like, oh,
Speaker 3: you never you have nothing in common with your former ally,
Speaker 3: you have nothing in common with a Jewish liberal or
Speaker 3: a black liberal or something like that. You can you're
Speaker 3: not you shouldn't even be in the same political party.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that, Like that is that disinformation is so
Speaker 3: is so amplified right now, it's not being regulated by
Speaker 3: any social media platform, and so this idea of like
Speaker 3: your vote doesn't matter, or don't vote, or you have
Speaker 3: nothing in common with your allies. Is the strategy that's
Speaker 3: honestly being used against us right now, and it's scary
Speaker 3: to see how effective that is. We have a year
Speaker 3: to we have a year to get back to feeling
Speaker 3: like we're in a coalition.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to go back to a point
Speaker 1: that you made earlier about energy and the lack of
Speaker 1: energy on the basis side. And I continue to have
Speaker 1: these conversations with folks, you know, in all different spaces
Speaker 1: and places where they say, you know, the media does
Speaker 1: the same trick bag every single year where we have
Speaker 1: an election, and they tell us that black people aren't
Speaker 1: going to vote, and young people aren't going to vote,
Speaker 1: and it's what drives their ratings and all of these things.
Speaker 1: But it's not actually factual or the truth. However, I
Speaker 1: do think that there is some truth to the fact
Speaker 1: that what I am hearing, and you tell me what
Speaker 1: you are hearing, is that people no longer want to
Speaker 1: vote from a place of fear right. They don't want
Speaker 1: to vote because the democracy depends on it, because their
Speaker 1: life depends on it, because bodily autonomy depends on it.
Speaker 1: They want to vote because they believe in the person
Speaker 1: that they are voting for, and I think that that
Speaker 1: is where we are going to struggle. I mean again,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was a motivating factor to get people in
Speaker 1: the middle of a pandemic without a vaccine out in
Speaker 1: aggressive numbers to vote against fascism. We are a year out,
Speaker 1: but do you think that the lack of energy, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: is something that we should be paying attention to now?
Speaker 1: The worst is that is it a media trick bad
Speaker 1: that we're in.
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: As as you know, because I only tell you these things.
Speaker 3: I've been worried about this for a long time. And
Speaker 3: so the first time that I told you I didn't
Speaker 3: think Biden was the right candidate, I invoked the memory
Speaker 3: of Bob Dole and John Kerry campaigns. Were the people
Speaker 3: who like were owed it because of the past performance
Speaker 3: or dedication to the party or something like that. You know,
Speaker 3: Bob Dole went onto viagraphame, but he was not a
Speaker 3: competitive He was not a competitive candidate in a way.
Speaker 3: And so John Carrey, you know same. I mean, Carrie
Speaker 3: had a lot of problems also, But when you put
Speaker 3: up like a candidate who appears markedly less vibrant than
Speaker 3: the other candidate who is also old and whatever.
Speaker 2: But then you really are at a massive, massive, massive.
Speaker 3: Disadvantage independent of the issues, and so I think it's
Speaker 3: a real thing.
Speaker 2: I guess that is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I think I hope remember like when the Obama
Speaker 3: strategists like they knew about like a different kind of
Speaker 3: marketing that the other side didn't know about. I hope
Speaker 3: our side has some genius people who are going to
Speaker 3: like blast out the movie Cocoon like two weeks before
Speaker 3: the election or some crap like that. Like, I hope
Speaker 3: we have some strategy, but I do feel like we're
Speaker 3: at just a really massive disadvantage. And what worries me
Speaker 3: is not just the disadvantage itself, it's also that they
Speaker 3: try to talk people out of it, you know, like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: that's an issue, like look at the economy or something,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, but this guy's not inspiring anybody.
Speaker 3: But that being said, we're going to need to come
Speaker 3: up with a strategy. I mean, maybe this is where
Speaker 3: AI is helpful or in injecting some kind of new No.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm just saying, like we have
Speaker 3: to figure out something about this, because that this is
Speaker 3: right now is the choice we have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just you know, and I think that
Speaker 1: it is the choice that we have. People who think
Speaker 1: that there is going to be some type of bait
Speaker 1: and switch are dreaming and are kidding themselves. And I
Speaker 1: think that you know, the comparisons that you made with
Speaker 1: Dole and Carrie accurate to a certain extent. But the
Speaker 1: stakes of the country and the world were not anywhere
Speaker 1: near where they are right now. And so while we
Speaker 1: could say, okay, whatever, we lost that election, that sucks,
Speaker 1: but we'll get them next time, is not the place
Speaker 1: that we find ourselves in as a country, or or
Speaker 1: as a planet for that matter. Jonathan, as always, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you. We wish you good health and go and
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. But thank you for making the time.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank everybody. And again, next week we'll know
Speaker 3: more about this and my voice I'll be back hopefully
Speaker 3: so we can talk more about all.
Speaker 1: Listen, that is it for me today, dear friends on
Speaker 1: woke a f as always, Power to the people and
Speaker 1: to all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke
Speaker 1: as fuck.