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Speaker 3: But enough with that, let's get to the show. Very
Speaker 3: excited now to be joined by Candace Own.
Speaker 2: She's newly independent, she's lost her own show, and we
Speaker 2: are very excited to have her here on Breaking Points.
Speaker 3: Candace, thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. I'm glad we could finally make.
Speaker 3: This work absolutely well. I guess it's been a long
Speaker 3: time coming. It's kind of something I wanted.
Speaker 2: To talk to you a little bit about. So I've
Speaker 2: followed this story with great interest. Friend of the show,
Speaker 2: Glenn Greenwald, a reporter, we can put this up there
Speaker 2: on the screen. He had reported previously that you'd been
Speaker 2: secretly hit with a gag order, and we wanted to
Speaker 2: just hear from you in your own words to the
Speaker 2: best that you're able about what happened here in the
Speaker 2: departmenture from the Daily Wire.
Speaker 5: You know, in my own words, I can't really say
Speaker 5: much at the moment, unfortunately. I obviously have been paying
Speaker 5: attention to everything that has been said publicly, and there
Speaker 5: may be an opportunity for me, hopefully in the near future,
Speaker 5: to make a statement of some sort. But I do
Speaker 5: also want to respect the process, you know, the judicial process,
Speaker 5: and not do anything that would get me into trouble.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, well, then tell us a little
Speaker 2: about you've launched your own show. Clearly this is a
Speaker 2: result of some of the comments that you had made
Speaker 2: previously in the months prior, specifically about the Israel Palestine conflict.
Speaker 2: I have seen you very mischaracterized in some of the
Speaker 2: comments that you've made, so I actually just want to
Speaker 2: give you the opportunity. What do you think about the
Speaker 2: conflict after October seventh?
Speaker 5: You know, I have been probably one of the most
Speaker 5: consistent public commentators when it comes to foreign conflict. I
Speaker 5: don't believe that we should be getting involved in Ukraine's
Speaker 5: or Israel's war. I did not believe that we should
Speaker 5: be involved in Afghanistan. You know, my position is now
Speaker 5: being characterized as isolationist. I'm comfortable with that. I don't
Speaker 5: see how the people that have been raw, raw raw,
Speaker 5: let's go to war all the time can still stand
Speaker 5: on the idea that war has been beneficial for America.
Speaker 5: It makes entirely no sense for our news coverage to
Speaker 5: be wall to wall about Israel's borders and not our own.
Speaker 5: When America is cleaned up and when America's borders are secured,
Speaker 5: you could maybe ask me about whether or not I
Speaker 5: believe we should be reaching overseas to help other people.
Speaker 5: But I just don't feel that way. And I think
Speaker 5: it's really disgusting that people try to use World War
Speaker 5: II propaganda and imagery to suggest that if we don't,
Speaker 5: that there's something wrong that, well, why.
Speaker 4: Don't you want to go defend Jews?
Speaker 5: You know, they're kind of putting it in the context
Speaker 5: of Adolf Hitler and World War Two. If you don't
Speaker 5: want to help out or secure Israel, I'm America first.
Speaker 5: I'm unapologetic about being America first. And also regarding Bob
Speaker 5: net and Yahoo, he has said things that if you
Speaker 5: are a true American patriot, you should be outraged that
Speaker 5: man has openly said that he is controlling elements in America.
Speaker 5: Don't worry about America, he said, We've got them under control.
Speaker 5: Don't worry about America. We're getting laws passed. If any
Speaker 5: person criticizes Israel, they will.
Speaker 4: Get into trouble.
Speaker 5: How dare you purport to be America first and then
Speaker 5: stay silent on a foreign leader of another country speaking
Speaker 5: as if they've got America under siege, as if Israel
Speaker 5: is what is controlling America. And when you add that
Speaker 5: up with the things that we have heard when the
Speaker 5: ADL John Greenblatt was sort of caught on the hype
Speaker 5: math on the hot mic pardon talking about TikTok, it
Speaker 5: should make every America, every American uncomfortable. I believe in
Speaker 5: national sovereignty, and I'm not fearful to stand up and
Speaker 5: speak out when the question is Israel, no more than
Speaker 5: I was fearful when the question was Zelenski was talking
Speaker 5: like a thug and a gangster.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting on the issue of Ukraine, all of
Speaker 2: us can agree on that, and yet there seems to
Speaker 2: be some sort of exception whenever it comes to Israel.
Speaker 2: I think you and I are both in a place
Speaker 2: where it's like, look, I don't have anything against Israel,
Speaker 2: but I just think we should treat it like any
Speaker 2: other nation, and any other nation that would be actively
Speaker 2: lobbying or pressuring things inside of our nation. I'm just
Speaker 2: going to object to that from America first principle. Why
Speaker 2: do you think, though, given you had a lot more
Speaker 2: experience than I have, inside some of the highest echelons
Speaker 2: of the conservative movement, where does the exception come from?
Speaker 2: Why do people either want to stay silent or create
Speaker 2: the exception for Israel in their rhetoric?
Speaker 5: I think left and right, what it comes down to
Speaker 5: is that we have people that protect the military industrial complex.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people purport to be conservatives,
Speaker 5: they're not conservatives.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: What they ultimately serve is the higher power of the
Speaker 5: military industrial complex, which has been controlling our media for
Speaker 5: a very long time. I mean, show me a war
Speaker 5: in which the media wasn't on board with, in which
Speaker 5: the media said, oh, maybe.
Speaker 4: We shouldn't get involved. I mean, I'm talking.
Speaker 5: It feels like since not eleven it has been NonStop war.
Speaker 5: And I go back to nine to eleven only because
Speaker 5: that's kind of the first indelible mark on my childhood
Speaker 5: where suddenly we were being propagandized into believing that dropping
Speaker 5: bombs forever was a sensible foreign policy position. And I
Speaker 5: think now you have people who are truly America first,
Speaker 5: who are calling out neocons and saying, this makes no sense.
Speaker 5: Why is Nikki Haley signing bombs? I mean, it's completely psychotic.
Speaker 5: I don't care what country it's for. I wouldn't sign
Speaker 5: the bomb even if it was for on behalf of America.
Speaker 5: It's not something that someone should do. And so, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think what's really happened is the American mindset is shifting.
Speaker 5: But within the media it does seem to me that
Speaker 5: they are just pro war in general. And then of
Speaker 5: course there are some people where you do have to
Speaker 5: question their allegiance to America in general. There does seem
Speaker 5: to be some individuals who seem to have more allegiance
Speaker 5: to Israel than they do to America.
Speaker 4: And that might be because of money.
Speaker 5: Maybe they're perceiving money, Maybe they're on part of me
Speaker 5: getting money in some capacity, receiving money from Israel in
Speaker 5: some capacity.
Speaker 4: I don't know that for sure, but some.
Speaker 5: Of it just doesn't even make any sense of why
Speaker 5: they would be this committed to Israel outside of some
Speaker 5: financial incentive.
Speaker 2: Well, let's stick with that, because I had Tucker Carlson
Speaker 2: on this show, and he got into a lot of
Speaker 2: trouble when I asked him about Ben Shapiro, one of
Speaker 2: your former colleagues.
Speaker 3: You don't have to comment if you don't.
Speaker 2: Want to, but he got a tremendous amount of criticism
Speaker 2: for questioning why exactly somebody would have such a deep
Speaker 2: attachment to a foreign nation that was characterized, I think
Speaker 2: unfairly as anti Semitic. We put it previously, just like
Speaker 2: a discuss if you put that on any other nation,
Speaker 2: it's obviously within the realm of discussion if you see
Speaker 2: and they're previously I think many conservative commentators you could
Speaker 2: get upset about people waving Mexican flags at an immigration
Speaker 2: rally and say what exactly is going on here? So
Speaker 2: on that ground you were talking there about money and
Speaker 2: foreign influence, etc. How do you find the amount of
Speaker 2: incoming criticism? How are you able to wade through that
Speaker 2: and to try and to speak both honestly and then
Speaker 2: protect your flank, because clearly you have suffered a lot
Speaker 2: of criticism and also now professional consequences as a result
Speaker 2: of what you've been talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just proud of myself, and I'm also proud
Speaker 5: of the American people because they just didn't accept it.
Speaker 5: They knew that it was a nonsense, and I think
Speaker 5: that they're recognizing.
Speaker 4: The old guard is failing.
Speaker 5: So the idea that if you are America first and
Speaker 5: you're unapologetic about being America Verse, that they're going to
Speaker 5: be able to take you out by calling you anti Semitic, racist, sexist, misogynists, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, throw it on the list.
Speaker 5: I could care less at the end of the day
Speaker 5: what I'm being called. What I care about is what
Speaker 5: the American people know and what the American people understand,
Speaker 5: And the American people believe in me.
Speaker 4: They know where I'm coming at, how I'm coming out.
Speaker 5: This issue, and they know that there is an anti
Speaker 5: Semitic bone in my body.
Speaker 4: If there was one, Why would I go work.
Speaker 5: At a company that was partially founded by Ben Shapiro?
Speaker 5: Why would I go work for Prager you for two years?
Speaker 5: But it doesn't even make any sense, And so they're
Speaker 5: asking the American.
Speaker 4: Public not to believe their own eyes.
Speaker 5: They believe in their old witchcraft where they could take
Speaker 5: a person and then completely delete them from the universe
Speaker 5: by calling them a bunch of names. And I'm stronger
Speaker 5: than that, and I think the mentality people that follow
Speaker 5: me is stronger than that. And I think they're frustrated.
Speaker 5: You can sense their frustration that it's not working anymore,
Speaker 5: and that brings me great pleasure.
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 5: It brings me pleasure to know that these old tricks
Speaker 5: aren't working. So what they are going to have to do,
Speaker 5: if they realistically want to stomp out people and ruin
Speaker 5: their lives for the crime of criticizing a foreign nation,
Speaker 5: is they're going to have to compete.
Speaker 4: In the battle of ideas.
Speaker 5: They're going to have to come to us and say,
Speaker 5: this is why it makes sense for you to send
Speaker 5: money overseas, And they're going to have to win.
Speaker 4: On that basis.
Speaker 5: You know, they're not on the basis of feelings and emotions,
Speaker 5: but on the basis of the proper facts of why
Speaker 5: it would make sense for any American to pledge their
Speaker 5: allegiance to a foreign country above America.
Speaker 4: And guess what, there isn't a fact where that makes sense.
Speaker 2: And Cannon is I mean what you just referenceds battle
Speaker 2: of ideas I mean this was canon for a lot
Speaker 2: of these you know, like you just mentioned two individuals,
Speaker 2: Dennis Praeger and for Ben Shapiro on this issue, though
Speaker 2: it does just seem to be like substantively different. I
Speaker 2: want to ask you know, in all your years of
Speaker 2: the conservative movement, has there been any other issue where
Speaker 2: it invited this much criticism internally and ultimately and tempts
Speaker 2: at cancelation.
Speaker 5: Well, a lot of it for me, is reminiscent of BLM,
Speaker 5: and so I didn't encounter this in the conservative movement
Speaker 5: because the Conservatives were anti BLM. But it's all of
Speaker 5: the exact same tricks. Like when I stood up and
Speaker 5: I said no, like, obviously you can't just use your
Speaker 5: identity and say I'm a black person, So now you
Speaker 5: can't criticize me, or criticize my movement, or criticize the
Speaker 5: Black Lives Matter Corporation. Black Americans were really upset. They
Speaker 5: were like, but look, we've had this traumatic event. It
Speaker 5: wasn't October seventh, but it was George Floyd, right, And
Speaker 5: how dare you question anything after George Floyd was killed?
Speaker 4: Well, you're seeing the exact same.
Speaker 5: Narrative play out right now post October seventh, How dare
Speaker 5: you question anything after October seventh? What about Jewish people,
Speaker 5: what about Black people? What about anti semitism? What about racism?
Speaker 5: Post George Floyd, they were going around calling everybody racist.
Speaker 5: Everybody was a collective guilt. Everyone was responsible for what
Speaker 5: happened to George Floyd, except for George Floyd who overdosed, obviously,
Speaker 5: but that was the perspective. Same thing post October seventh.
Speaker 5: Everybody is responsible. Everybody's anti semitic. How dare you question
Speaker 5: what we're going to do? And in reality, what you
Speaker 5: had when it came to BLM was people that had
Speaker 5: become racial extremists accusing everybody else of being racist. And
Speaker 5: I'm seeing that right now. You see a small group
Speaker 5: of people who have become in fact, racial extremists that
Speaker 5: are accusing everybody else of being anti Semitic, were simply
Speaker 5: remaining rational and thinking about things in the context of
Speaker 5: rationality and what makes sense for America. So I'm not
Speaker 5: moved by their emotion.
Speaker 3: Whatsoever, Kenness.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the free speech you know,
Speaker 2: there again similarly a principle one which was held up
Speaker 2: I think rightfully, you know, by both of US and
Speaker 2: really watched as like you said, during BLM, there were
Speaker 2: several attempts at cancellation, and free speech, at least extensively
Speaker 2: was a bedrock principle of the new kind of conservative movement.
Speaker 2: But we've also seen some recent attempts, not just in
Speaker 2: your case, but at a institutional level to really go
Speaker 2: after to silence and perhaps even use state power on
Speaker 2: this issue of Israel and a free speech. What's that
Speaker 2: been like for you watching that, you know, possibly from
Speaker 2: some people who he used to make common cause with.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it goes back to what I was saying
Speaker 5: earlier about listening to Netanyah who say that he's got
Speaker 5: his legs in different states, and here they can control
Speaker 5: speech and no one will be able to criticize Israel.
Speaker 5: People should go pursue that clip and listen to it,
Speaker 5: because that's deranged. That is a person that has no
Speaker 5: respect for your country but believes that your country has
Speaker 5: actually been subjugated to his country.
Speaker 4: And to the extent that any.
Speaker 5: Conservative would defend that or pretend that he didn't say it,
Speaker 5: or pretend that it's not problematic, let me tell you
Speaker 5: you're not looking at someone who is.
Speaker 4: A conservative they're not a conservative whatsoever.
Speaker 5: And like I said, I have a very positive perspective
Speaker 5: on it because despite the attempted public hanging, the public
Speaker 5: lynching of Candice Owned so to speak, it didn't work right,
Speaker 5: it didn't work, and so that tells you that Americans
Speaker 5: are fed up.
Speaker 4: They are fed up with this.
Speaker 5: They need to get more creative if they want to
Speaker 5: take out people for being America First.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe what's next for me is they're going to say,
Speaker 5: ten years ago Candace looked at Egene Carol Funny.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think that's they're going to have to move to
Speaker 5: that to their other favorite strategy of.
Speaker 4: Trying to take somebody out.
Speaker 5: But you know, we're here to say the America First
Speaker 5: movement is here to say and we make no apologies
Speaker 5: and not even in the face whether it's Israel, Ukraine, Afghanistan, Iraq,
Speaker 5: we make no apologies for prioritizing our families, our country,
Speaker 5: and our Christian beliefs first for many of us.
Speaker 2: Kennison, I want to ask you about Donald Trump. So
Speaker 2: previously supported Donald Trump. I think you've defended him. You've
Speaker 2: done one of the better jobs I've seen of defending him.
Speaker 2: But on the issue of Israel, how are you squaring
Speaker 2: some of the rhetoric that he's had on this conflict.
Speaker 2: We have, for example, just a sound by from one
Speaker 2: of his more recent interviews. I'd like to get your
Speaker 2: reaction and kind of how you're thinking about it as
Speaker 2: an America first conservative control and we can go and
Speaker 2: play that please.
Speaker 1: So Number one, they have to finish the job. Israel
Speaker 1: has to finish that job. They have to finish it quickly, strongly,
Speaker 1: and they have to get back to life again because
Speaker 1: it's taken too long. They have to finish the job,
Speaker 1: saying go win, win, and finish.
Speaker 4: Got to win, got to win.
Speaker 1: Israel was the most powerful lobby in the country fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago. Today, between Talib and AOC and all of
Speaker 1: these people, what they're doing Israel, they don't have the
Speaker 1: back end that they once had.
Speaker 4: You'll give it to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. I'm good, I'm good, But they don't
Speaker 1: have the back game. Even Schumer has become like a
Speaker 1: Palestinian Chuck Schumer, Jewish, always strong for Israel. He's become
Speaker 1: like a Palestinian hall for elections in the middle of
Speaker 1: a war. Yeah, it's a very bad thing. It's a
Speaker 1: very sad thing, and it's a very dangerous thing.
Speaker 3: What do you make of that? Candas, Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 5: I would also love to interview him on the topic
Speaker 5: of Israel would be super fascinating. I think what he
Speaker 5: is rightfully hitting on, though, is that Israel is facing
Speaker 5: a pr crisis.
Speaker 4: There's no question about that.
Speaker 5: You've never heard people speaking about Israel in this manner.
Speaker 5: I mean, even in terms of me, I've never questioned
Speaker 5: anything when it came to Israel, and yet you're starting
Speaker 5: to see people ask questions and start to research. And
Speaker 5: I think partially it's because they've overplayed their hand. They
Speaker 5: just started acting like bullies and like thugs. Same thing
Speaker 5: with BLM. I keep going back to that because they
Speaker 5: basically ran the BLM playbook like you will be subjugated
Speaker 5: to us, you will say what we want you to say,
Speaker 5: these are a.
Speaker 4: Talking points, or we will ruin your lives. And that
Speaker 4: doesn't work long term.
Speaker 5: What works long term is actually standing on truth and
Speaker 5: standing on reas. And so he is correct to say
Speaker 5: that the Israel lobby, despite the fact, but it is
Speaker 5: the most powerful and that it, you know, Apak is
Speaker 5: the most powerful lobby. I think next to Big Parma,
Speaker 5: Big Parma might be a bit more powerful, so you'll
Speaker 5: have the fact check me on that, but they are
Speaker 5: there are two of the most powerful lobbies in DC.
Speaker 5: Despite all of that money, you are seeing that the
Speaker 5: people are not accepting that that should be a reason
Speaker 5: that we have to pledge our support to Israel.
Speaker 4: So they are going to have the shift gears.
Speaker 5: And in regards to what he's saying about Israel needs
Speaker 5: to end the war. As long as he's saying Israel, Israel,
Speaker 5: Israel needs to and not America America, America needs to
Speaker 5: I'm comfortable with that.
Speaker 3: Interesting, So I guess I want to follow a little
Speaker 3: bit on this.
Speaker 2: I've seen, for example, reporting Miriam Adelson gave some one
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars to the Trump campaign, largely, I believe
Speaker 2: in in exchange for not the Trump campaign to a
Speaker 2: super pack, in exchange for allowing Israeli governance over the
Speaker 2: West Bank. We've seen Trump adopt, i mean, frankly, some
Speaker 2: more pro Israel rhetoric than President Biden. Just again on
Speaker 2: the sticking of the America first kind of theme, how
Speaker 2: are you going to evaluate that in your support for Trump?
Speaker 5: Going forward for me if he gets into office, and
Speaker 5: I hope that he does, because the truth reality is,
Speaker 5: we have between two candidates to choose from, and obviously
Speaker 5: Trump is the candidate that people should be voting for.
Speaker 5: But to the extent that he is going to use
Speaker 5: the office to further israel interests above America.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be happy with that.
Speaker 5: His base is not going to be happy with that,
Speaker 5: and his feet should be held to the.
Speaker 4: Fire over that.
Speaker 5: You and not even just issuean just Ukraine interests doesn't
Speaker 5: matter any foreign country right now.
Speaker 4: America is not.
Speaker 5: In a good enough situation to be helping any foreign
Speaker 5: countries right now with anything. That is the reality, and
Speaker 5: so I would hope that he is not taking money
Speaker 5: from any individual with some implicit promise that he's going
Speaker 5: to do things for other countries.
Speaker 4: That's not the way it should work. I don't even
Speaker 4: think lobbying should be Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, well don't disagree certainly on that one.
Speaker 2: Sticking again on the Ukraine theme, what is your confidence
Speaker 2: level here last time around?
Speaker 3: I think we could say it's relatively mixed.
Speaker 2: Back, you know, Trump in terms of I was there,
Speaker 2: I covered the White House at the time, there were
Speaker 2: any neo Khans from John Bolton to occasionally listen to
Speaker 2: Keith Kellogg this time around. What's your confidence level that
Speaker 2: he really would bring the war in Ukraine to an end,
Speaker 2: that he would kind of retrench the United States from
Speaker 2: NATO interests, like in terms of expansion on Israel and
Speaker 2: in foreign influence.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling about the state of things right
Speaker 3: now for him?
Speaker 5: You know, I have heard about some conversations that he
Speaker 5: has had and I hope I'm not wrong, but I
Speaker 5: do I feel confident that when he gets back into office,
Speaker 5: he is going to be remarkably America First. I think
Speaker 5: he actually regrets some of the things in his first term,
Speaker 5: and largely that was because, I mean, in four years,
Speaker 5: you're kind of.
Speaker 4: Just playing catch up.
Speaker 5: He thought that he was going to get into office,
Speaker 5: the media was going to leave him alone. I mean,
Speaker 5: they kept the fire on him the entire time, and
Speaker 5: I think that he did sort of trust other people
Speaker 5: around him to do things, and from what I'm hearing,
Speaker 5: he has some regret about that and he would do
Speaker 5: things differently this time that I hope that what I'm
Speaker 5: hearing is correct. Obviously, we're not going to know until
Speaker 5: he assumes office, If they allow him to assume office
Speaker 5: and they don't come up with another pandemic, I think
Speaker 5: they're talking bird flu now, and we're going to have
Speaker 5: to radically change elections. But this is a huge issue,
Speaker 5: like we need actual American first people in control of America.
Speaker 5: That is the truth, and we haven't gotten that in
Speaker 5: a very long time. And there are tons of reasons
Speaker 5: for that, and I think, namely, a lot of it
Speaker 5: seems to me to be fear They seem.
Speaker 4: To be fearful.
Speaker 5: Either they're crooks and they're accepting money or they're fearful,
Speaker 5: and you know, which begs to question how many of
Speaker 5: our congressmen are blackmailed?
Speaker 4: You know, it's a huge question.
Speaker 5: Listening to Thomas Massey talked about the foreign influence, it's
Speaker 5: a huge wake up call for Americans. We cannot go
Speaker 5: on like this. We cannot be a nation if we
Speaker 5: are not sovereign Cannics.
Speaker 3: Who do you think Trump should pick as his vice president?
Speaker 4: Mviake Ramaswami?
Speaker 3: Interesting? Okay, why do you think it should be Vivac?
Speaker 5: Because I think that Mavik Ramaswami is just one of
Speaker 5: the most brilliant minds I've ever been around, and I
Speaker 5: think what he needs is not a person.
Speaker 4: That is saying to him, oh, you know, there's so
Speaker 4: many documents being thrown at them.
Speaker 5: Look, take a look at his bill. Vike Ramaswami will
Speaker 5: do the work. He will read everything, he will grasp
Speaker 5: the difficult concepts, and he will be able to present
Speaker 5: to Trump why what he is doing is or is
Speaker 5: not America first, in a way.
Speaker 4: That is clear. And that's what he needs.
Speaker 5: He needs a business partner, not someone that doesn't have
Speaker 5: that capacity. I think Viake Ramaswami is the way to go.
Speaker 5: And I'm nervous that if you pick somebody that is
Speaker 5: a neo con so to speak, they're going to do
Speaker 5: everything they can to make sure that Trump is taken
Speaker 5: and that person becomes the president of the United States.
Speaker 5: He's got to pick someone who's unapologetically America first, and
Speaker 5: not somebody that is afraid to say things boldly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tuck Carlson said he wouldn't vote for Trump if
Speaker 2: he picked Nikki Haley as vice president.
Speaker 3: I was there, you feel interesting?
Speaker 4: Also, that is not about Tommy Haley?
Speaker 3: What about what about Tom Cotton? What about Mike Pompeo?
Speaker 2: Any of those other folks if they were at a
Speaker 2: place in the Trump administration.
Speaker 5: He should not go within ten feet of neo cons
Speaker 5: And if he's reading the room correctly and he's seeing
Speaker 5: where America, where the American consciences, especially under the MAGA party,
Speaker 5: we want real, unapologetic America.
Speaker 2: First, Kennis, what did you make of Mike Johnson and
Speaker 2: the passage of the Ukraine aid I allegedly did it
Speaker 2: at least with some Trump support.
Speaker 3: Were you disappointed in that?
Speaker 4: I am disappointed that.
Speaker 5: Listen, My dream for president right now would be Thomas Massi.
Speaker 4: Okay, because it seems to me.
Speaker 5: That he is the only person that does not make
Speaker 5: any concessions. And obviously I understand that given Trump's position
Speaker 5: and in terms of what he's trying to do, inevitably
Speaker 5: we can preach and we could say, oh, here's what
Speaker 5: I would do. You inevitably are going to make some concessions.
Speaker 5: But I think Thomas Massey has the correct perspective on
Speaker 5: the way things should be handled, So he would probably
Speaker 5: be my number two in terms of Actually, I'd be
Speaker 5: happy with a big Ramaswami or Thomas Massey in the
Speaker 5: VP role because these are individuals that I think they
Speaker 5: know do not care about which way the wind is blowing.
Speaker 5: They are actually principled America First leaders.
Speaker 4: And it's disappointing.
Speaker 5: It's disappointing that money keeps being sent overseas, especially when
Speaker 5: you understand how difficult it has been for Americans.
Speaker 4: Suffering at the gas pump, suffering to put.
Speaker 5: Food on the table, and constantly being lectured about some
Speaker 5: higher moral aim.
Speaker 4: Well, what about Ukraine's borders? I don't care.
Speaker 5: As a strong stent, I literally do not care about
Speaker 5: their borders.
Speaker 4: I don't care about Israel's worst.
Speaker 5: Stop asking me to care about somebody else's home before mine.
Speaker 4: I won't do it.
Speaker 2: Kenn, Just tell us about your new show. You've rocking
Speaker 2: it to the top of the charts. It's doing pretty
Speaker 2: well as I understand it. I'm pretty sure the media
Speaker 2: doesn't like it. Nobody's been reporting it. I've been there.
Speaker 2: I understand too what it's like to be the top.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to Nobody wants to acknowledge. What's it been like.
Speaker 3: Now you've branched out on your own and you have
Speaker 3: this new new platform.
Speaker 5: It's been absolutely amazing, and I'm so grateful to everyone,
Speaker 5: and that made that early investment on locals dot com
Speaker 5: or just like come back and be independent. It's been
Speaker 5: amazing to be independent because there's no fear, do you
Speaker 5: know what I mean? You actually get to decide what
Speaker 5: you want to talk about every single day, and you
Speaker 5: get to get that immediate feedback from people, and there's
Speaker 5: no constraints, so there's no well, we got to be
Speaker 5: careful here, we want to make sure we don't upset
Speaker 5: this person, or we want to consider this.
Speaker 4: The energy has been amazing.
Speaker 5: The team is excited, and we're motivated, like I'm motivated
Speaker 5: in a way that I haven't been motivated in a
Speaker 5: long time.
Speaker 4: And so despite obviously being the global.
Speaker 5: Trend of my exit and the many things that we're saying,
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I know that God
Speaker 5: wanted things to happen in just the way that it
Speaker 5: did happen, And I feel so much that God has
Speaker 5: been with me on this journey and on this path,
Speaker 5: and I'm just grateful, you know, to be number three
Speaker 5: overall on Spotify, number five overall on Apple and doing
Speaker 5: it truly on my own with my very very small
Speaker 5: team around me is amazing. And also I want to say,
Speaker 5: to be on top of the charts with Tucker Carlson
Speaker 5: and Joe Rogan, that is a very strong statement to
Speaker 5: the establishment, Like though US three there, that's a strong statement.
Speaker 5: It is letting you know that the American people don't
Speaker 5: care what you have to say. They just want real conversations.
Speaker 5: They don't care if people disagree. They want to know
Speaker 5: that they being brought different perspectives.
Speaker 4: They know when they're being lied to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's that's an excellent point,
Speaker 2: and that's one obviously that for some reason people don't
Speaker 2: pay attention as to what exactly people are yearning for.
Speaker 2: Just if you could speak a little bit more on
Speaker 2: that topic of free I felt that really psychologically as well,
Speaker 2: no longer being attached to a larger organization, leaving for
Speaker 2: principles and then launching our own thing that really, you know,
Speaker 2: blossomed into the platform that we have right now. I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people wonder from the outside what
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, to work in a media environment
Speaker 2: where ostensibly you can say what you want, but there
Speaker 2: are a lot of outside pressures. What is it like
Speaker 2: to work in that system? If you could tell others
Speaker 2: about it, yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean what I would say, and obviously I've moved
Speaker 5: through different corporations. What I would just say is that
Speaker 5: if you are sitting at home and or you're sitting
Speaker 5: at work.
Speaker 4: And you are having that urge and.
Speaker 5: You're thinking, should I take a chance on myself? Well,
Speaker 5: if I don't, there's this security and what if this happens.
Speaker 5: If you feel about urge, you should do it, you know.
Speaker 5: And I think that for me, I just didn't feel
Speaker 5: that I could. I don't know, I guess say everything
Speaker 5: that I wanted to say, and I'm not blaming that
Speaker 5: on anybody, but I am saying that I feel a
Speaker 5: difference now and I.
Speaker 4: Feel very motivated by the response.
Speaker 5: I think people can sense my happiness, they can sense
Speaker 5: that psychological freedom, and there is a reason that people
Speaker 5: are responding to it in the way that they are
Speaker 5: responding to it. And so I want people to just
Speaker 5: be encouraged and to know that when you pursue truth,
Speaker 5: you inevitably end up at God.
Speaker 4: And when you stand on the side of goodness and.
Speaker 5: On the side of faith and on the side of God,
Speaker 5: you will be rewarded. That is my honest belief, And
Speaker 5: so I just want everyone to feel encouraged because in
Speaker 5: the end we win. Truth wins in the end, so
Speaker 5: be on the side of truth.
Speaker 3: Well said Candice. Where can people find out more?
Speaker 5: Well, if you guys, I'm on YouTube and you can.
Speaker 5: I think we put on two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 5: subs in sixty days on YouTube, which is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 5: So you guys can find us on YouTube. We're on Spotify,
Speaker 5: we are on Apple at the top of the charts.
Speaker 5: And if you guys want to support our work, please
Speaker 5: find us on locals dot com. If you can give
Speaker 5: a gift monthly or annual, do it. And if you can't,
Speaker 5: just pray. I'm telling you it is the prayers that
Speaker 5: kept me safe during that public lynching. People all around
Speaker 5: the world have been praying for me, and your prayers
Speaker 5: are working.
Speaker 3: Well. There you go, Cannus, thank you so much for
Speaker 3: taking the time.
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it anytime