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Speaker 3: But enough with that, let's get to the show. Very

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Speaker 3: excited now to be joined by Candace Own.

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Speaker 2: She's newly independent, she's lost her own show, and we

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Speaker 3: Candace, thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. I'm glad we could finally make.

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Speaker 3: This work absolutely well. I guess it's been a long

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Speaker 3: time coming. It's kind of something I wanted.

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Speaker 2: To talk to you a little bit about. So I've

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Speaker 2: followed this story with great interest. Friend of the show,

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Speaker 2: Glenn Greenwald, a reporter, we can put this up there

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Speaker 2: on the screen. He had reported previously that you'd been

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Speaker 2: secretly hit with a gag order, and we wanted to

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Speaker 2: just hear from you in your own words to the

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Speaker 2: departmenture from the Daily Wire.

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Speaker 5: You know, in my own words, I can't really say

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Speaker 5: much at the moment, unfortunately. I obviously have been paying

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Speaker 5: attention to everything that has been said publicly, and there

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Speaker 5: may be an opportunity for me, hopefully in the near future,

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Speaker 5: to make a statement of some sort. But I do

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Speaker 5: also want to respect the process, you know, the judicial process,

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Speaker 5: and not do anything that would get me into trouble.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, well, then tell us a little

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Speaker 2: about you've launched your own show. Clearly this is a

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Speaker 2: result of some of the comments that you had made

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Speaker 2: previously in the months prior, specifically about the Israel Palestine conflict.

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Speaker 2: I have seen you very mischaracterized in some of the

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Speaker 2: comments that you've made, so I actually just want to

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Speaker 2: conflict after October seventh?

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Speaker 5: You know, I have been probably one of the most

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Speaker 5: consistent public commentators when it comes to foreign conflict. I

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Speaker 5: don't believe that we should be getting involved in Ukraine's

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Speaker 5: or Israel's war. I did not believe that we should

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Speaker 5: be involved in Afghanistan. You know, my position is now

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Speaker 5: being characterized as isolationist. I'm comfortable with that. I don't

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Speaker 5: see how the people that have been raw, raw raw,

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Speaker 5: on the idea that war has been beneficial for America.

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Speaker 5: It makes entirely no sense for our news coverage to

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Speaker 5: be wall to wall about Israel's borders and not our own.

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Speaker 5: When America is cleaned up and when America's borders are secured,

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Speaker 5: you could maybe ask me about whether or not I

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Speaker 5: But I just don't feel that way. And I think

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Speaker 5: it's really disgusting that people try to use World War

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Speaker 5: II propaganda and imagery to suggest that if we don't,

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Speaker 5: that there's something wrong that, well, why.

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Speaker 4: Don't you want to go defend Jews?

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Speaker 5: You know, they're kind of putting it in the context

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Speaker 5: want to help out or secure Israel, I'm America first.

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Speaker 5: I'm unapologetic about being America first. And also regarding Bob

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Speaker 5: man has openly said that he is controlling elements in America.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry about America, he said, We've got them under control.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry about America. We're getting laws passed. If any

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Speaker 4: Get into trouble.

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Speaker 5: How dare you purport to be America first and then

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Speaker 5: as if they've got America under siege, as if Israel

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Speaker 5: should make every America, every American uncomfortable. I believe in

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Speaker 5: national sovereignty, and I'm not fearful to stand up and

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Speaker 5: I was fearful when the question was Zelenski was talking

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's very interesting on the issue of Ukraine, all of

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Speaker 2: I think you and I are both in a place

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Speaker 2: Why do people either want to stay silent or create

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Speaker 5: I think left and right, what it comes down to

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people purport to be conservatives,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: What they ultimately serve is the higher power of the

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Speaker 5: military industrial complex, which has been controlling our media for

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Speaker 5: a very long time. I mean, show me a war

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Speaker 4: We shouldn't get involved. I mean, I'm talking.

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Speaker 5: It feels like since not eleven it has been NonStop war.

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Speaker 5: And I go back to nine to eleven only because

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Speaker 5: where suddenly we were being propagandized into believing that dropping

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Speaker 5: think now you have people who are truly America first,

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Speaker 5: who are calling out neocons and saying, this makes no sense.

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Speaker 5: Why is Nikki Haley signing bombs? I mean, it's completely psychotic.

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Speaker 5: I don't care what country it's for. I wouldn't sign

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Speaker 5: It's not something that someone should do. And so, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think what's really happened is the American mindset is shifting.

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Speaker 5: But within the media it does seem to me that

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Speaker 5: course there are some people where you do have to

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Speaker 4: And that might be because of money.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they're perceiving money, Maybe they're on part of me

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Speaker 4: I don't know that for sure, but some.

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Speaker 5: Of it just doesn't even make any sense of why

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Speaker 2: Well, let's stick with that, because I had Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 3: You don't have to comment if you don't.

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Speaker 2: Want to, but he got a tremendous amount of criticism

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Speaker 2: unfairly as anti Semitic. We put it previously, just like

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Speaker 2: and they're previously I think many conservative commentators you could

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Speaker 2: on that ground you were talking there about money and

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Speaker 2: and to try and to speak both honestly and then

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Speaker 2: of what you've been talking about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just proud of myself, and I'm also proud

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Speaker 5: They knew that it was a nonsense, and I think

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Speaker 4: The old guard is failing.

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Speaker 5: So the idea that if you are America first and

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Speaker 5: be able to take you out by calling you anti Semitic, racist, sexist, misogynists, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, throw it on the list.

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Speaker 5: I could care less at the end of the day

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Speaker 5: what I'm being called. What I care about is what

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Speaker 5: And the American people believe in me.

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Speaker 4: They know where I'm coming at, how I'm coming out.

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Speaker 5: This issue, and they know that there is an anti

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Speaker 4: If there was one, Why would I go work.

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Speaker 5: At a company that was partially founded by Ben Shapiro?

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Speaker 5: Why would I go work for Prager you for two years?

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't even make any sense, And so they're

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Speaker 5: They believe in their old witchcraft where they could take

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Speaker 5: by calling them a bunch of names. And I'm stronger

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Speaker 5: You can sense their frustration that it's not working anymore,

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Speaker 5: and that brings me great pleasure.

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Speaker 4: It does.

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Speaker 5: It brings me pleasure to know that these old tricks

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Speaker 5: if they realistically want to stomp out people and ruin

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Speaker 5: is they're going to have to compete.

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Speaker 4: In the battle of ideas.

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Speaker 5: They're going to have to come to us and say,

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Speaker 5: this is why it makes sense for you to send

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Speaker 4: On that basis.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're not on the basis of feelings and emotions,

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Speaker 5: but on the basis of the proper facts of why

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Speaker 4: And guess what, there isn't a fact where that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: And Cannon is I mean what you just referenceds battle

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Speaker 2: of ideas I mean this was canon for a lot

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Speaker 2: of these you know, like you just mentioned two individuals,

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Speaker 2: Dennis Praeger and for Ben Shapiro on this issue, though

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Speaker 2: it does just seem to be like substantively different. I

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Speaker 2: want to ask you know, in all your years of

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Speaker 2: it invited this much criticism internally and ultimately and tempts

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Speaker 5: Well, a lot of it for me, is reminiscent of BLM,

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Speaker 5: and so I didn't encounter this in the conservative movement

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Speaker 5: because the Conservatives were anti BLM. But it's all of

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Speaker 5: the exact same tricks. Like when I stood up and

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Speaker 5: I said no, like, obviously you can't just use your

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Speaker 5: identity and say I'm a black person, So now you

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Speaker 5: Black Lives Matter Corporation. Black Americans were really upset. They

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Speaker 5: were like, but look, we've had this traumatic event. It

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Speaker 5: wasn't October seventh, but it was George Floyd, right, And

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Speaker 5: how dare you question anything after George Floyd was killed?

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Speaker 4: Well, you're seeing the exact same.

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Speaker 3: Whatsoever, Kenness.

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Speaker 2: But we've also seen some recent attempts, not just in

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Speaker 5: People should go pursue that clip and listen to it,

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Speaker 4: A conservative they're not a conservative whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: They are fed up with this.

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Speaker 5: They need to get more creative if they want to

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe what's next for me is they're going to say,

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Speaker 5: But you know, we're here to say the America First

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Speaker 2: Kennison, I want to ask you about Donald Trump. So

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Speaker 2: play that please.

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Speaker 1: So Number one, they have to finish the job. Israel

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Speaker 4: Got to win, got to win.

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Speaker 1: Israel was the most powerful lobby in the country fifteen

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Speaker 4: You'll give it to them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. I'm good, I'm good, But they don't

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Speaker 1: have the back game. Even Schumer has become like a

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Speaker 4: There's no question about that.

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Speaker 5: You've never heard people speaking about Israel in this manner.

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Speaker 4: Talking points, or we will ruin your lives. And that

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Speaker 5: What works long term is actually standing on truth and

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Speaker 5: Despite all of that money, you are seeing that the

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Speaker 5: And in regards to what he's saying about Israel needs

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Speaker 2: I've seen, for example, reporting Miriam Adelson gave some one

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Speaker 5: Going forward for me if he gets into office, and

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to be happy with that.

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Speaker 5: His base is not going to be happy with that,

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Speaker 4: Fire over that.

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Speaker 5: You and not even just issuean just Ukraine interests doesn't

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Speaker 5: In a good enough situation to be helping any foreign

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Speaker 4: That's not the way it should work. I don't even

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Speaker 5: You know, I have heard about some conversations that he

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Speaker 5: That is the truth, and we haven't gotten that in

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Speaker 4: To be fearful.

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Speaker 5: Either they're crooks and they're accepting money or they're fearful,

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a huge question.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think Trump should pick as his vice president?

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Speaker 4: Mviake Ramaswami?

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Speaker 3: Interesting? Okay, why do you think it should be Vivac?

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Speaker 5: Because I think that Mavik Ramaswami is just one of

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Speaker 4: That is saying to him, oh, you know, there's so

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Speaker 5: Look, take a look at his bill. Vike Ramaswami will

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Speaker 4: That is clear. And that's what he needs.

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Speaker 5: He needs a business partner, not someone that doesn't have

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Speaker 5: and that person becomes the president of the United States.

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Speaker 5: He's got to pick someone who's unapologetically America first, and

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Speaker 5: not somebody that is afraid to say things boldly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tuck Carlson said he wouldn't vote for Trump if

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Speaker 2: he picked Nikki Haley as vice president.

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Speaker 3: I was there, you feel interesting?

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Speaker 4: Also, that is not about Tommy Haley?

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Speaker 3: What about what about Tom Cotton? What about Mike Pompeo?

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Speaker 2: Any of those other folks if they were at a

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Speaker 2: place in the Trump administration.

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Speaker 5: He should not go within ten feet of neo cons

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Speaker 5: And if he's reading the room correctly and he's seeing

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Speaker 5: where America, where the American consciences, especially under the MAGA party,

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Speaker 5: we want real, unapologetic America.

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Speaker 2: First, Kennis, what did you make of Mike Johnson and

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Speaker 2: the passage of the Ukraine aid I allegedly did it

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Speaker 2: at least with some Trump support.

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Speaker 3: Were you disappointed in that?

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Speaker 4: I am disappointed that.

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Speaker 5: Listen, My dream for president right now would be Thomas Massi.

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Speaker 4: Okay, because it seems to me.

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Speaker 5: That he is the only person that does not make

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Speaker 5: any concessions. And obviously I understand that given Trump's position

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Speaker 5: and in terms of what he's trying to do, inevitably

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Speaker 5: we can preach and we could say, oh, here's what

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Speaker 5: I would do. You inevitably are going to make some concessions.

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Speaker 5: But I think Thomas Massey has the correct perspective on

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Speaker 5: the way things should be handled, So he would probably

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Speaker 5: be my number two in terms of Actually, I'd be

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Speaker 5: happy with a big Ramaswami or Thomas Massey in the

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Speaker 5: VP role because these are individuals that I think they

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Speaker 5: know do not care about which way the wind is blowing.

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Speaker 5: They are actually principled America First leaders.

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Speaker 4: And it's disappointing.

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Speaker 5: It's disappointing that money keeps being sent overseas, especially when

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Speaker 5: you understand how difficult it has been for Americans.

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Speaker 4: Suffering at the gas pump, suffering to put.

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Speaker 5: Food on the table, and constantly being lectured about some

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Speaker 5: higher moral aim.

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Speaker 4: Well, what about Ukraine's borders? I don't care.

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Speaker 5: As a strong stent, I literally do not care about

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Speaker 5: their borders.

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Speaker 4: I don't care about Israel's worst.

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Speaker 5: Stop asking me to care about somebody else's home before mine.

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Speaker 4: I won't do it.

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Speaker 2: Kenn, Just tell us about your new show. You've rocking

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Speaker 2: it to the top of the charts. It's doing pretty

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Speaker 2: well as I understand it. I'm pretty sure the media

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Speaker 2: doesn't like it. Nobody's been reporting it. I've been there.

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Speaker 2: I understand too what it's like to be the top.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to Nobody wants to acknowledge. What's it been like.

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Speaker 3: Now you've branched out on your own and you have

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Speaker 3: this new new platform.

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Speaker 5: It's been absolutely amazing, and I'm so grateful to everyone,

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Speaker 5: and that made that early investment on locals dot com

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Speaker 5: or just like come back and be independent. It's been

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Speaker 5: amazing to be independent because there's no fear, do you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean? You actually get to decide what

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Speaker 5: you want to talk about every single day, and you

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Speaker 5: get to get that immediate feedback from people, and there's

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Speaker 5: no constraints, so there's no well, we got to be

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Speaker 5: careful here, we want to make sure we don't upset

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Speaker 5: this person, or we want to consider this.

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Speaker 4: The energy has been amazing.

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Speaker 5: The team is excited, and we're motivated, like I'm motivated

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Speaker 5: in a way that I haven't been motivated in a

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Speaker 5: long time.

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Speaker 4: And so despite obviously being the global.

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Speaker 5: Trend of my exit and the many things that we're saying,

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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I know that God

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Speaker 5: wanted things to happen in just the way that it

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Speaker 5: did happen, And I feel so much that God has

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Speaker 5: been with me on this journey and on this path,

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Speaker 5: and I'm just grateful, you know, to be number three

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Speaker 5: overall on Spotify, number five overall on Apple and doing

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Speaker 5: it truly on my own with my very very small

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Speaker 5: team around me is amazing. And also I want to say,

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Speaker 5: to be on top of the charts with Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 5: and Joe Rogan, that is a very strong statement to

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Speaker 5: the establishment, Like though US three there, that's a strong statement.

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Speaker 5: It is letting you know that the American people don't

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Speaker 5: care what you have to say. They just want real conversations.

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Speaker 5: They don't care if people disagree. They want to know

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Speaker 5: that they being brought different perspectives.

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Speaker 4: They know when they're being lied to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's that's an excellent point,

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Speaker 2: and that's one obviously that for some reason people don't

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Speaker 2: pay attention as to what exactly people are yearning for.

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Speaker 2: Just if you could speak a little bit more on

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Speaker 2: that topic of free I felt that really psychologically as well,

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Speaker 2: no longer being attached to a larger organization, leaving for

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Speaker 2: principles and then launching our own thing that really, you know,

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Speaker 2: blossomed into the platform that we have right now. I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people wonder from the outside what

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, to work in a media environment

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Speaker 2: where ostensibly you can say what you want, but there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of outside pressures. What is it like

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Speaker 2: to work in that system? If you could tell others

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Speaker 2: about it, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean what I would say, and obviously I've moved

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Speaker 5: through different corporations. What I would just say is that

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Speaker 5: if you are sitting at home and or you're sitting

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Speaker 5: at work.

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Speaker 4: And you are having that urge and.

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Speaker 5: You're thinking, should I take a chance on myself? Well,

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Speaker 5: if I don't, there's this security and what if this happens.

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Speaker 5: If you feel about urge, you should do it, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I think that for me, I just didn't feel

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Speaker 5: that I could. I don't know, I guess say everything

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Speaker 5: that I wanted to say, and I'm not blaming that

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Speaker 5: on anybody, but I am saying that I feel a

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Speaker 5: difference now and I.

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Speaker 4: Feel very motivated by the response.

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Speaker 5: I think people can sense my happiness, they can sense

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Speaker 5: that psychological freedom, and there is a reason that people

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Speaker 5: are responding to it in the way that they are

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Speaker 5: responding to it. And so I want people to just

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Speaker 5: be encouraged and to know that when you pursue truth,

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Speaker 5: you inevitably end up at God.

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Speaker 4: And when you stand on the side of goodness and.

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Speaker 5: On the side of faith and on the side of God,

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Speaker 5: you will be rewarded. That is my honest belief, And

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Speaker 5: so I just want everyone to feel encouraged because in

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Speaker 5: the end we win. Truth wins in the end, so

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Speaker 5: be on the side of truth.

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Speaker 3: Well said Candice. Where can people find out more?

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Speaker 5: Well, if you guys, I'm on YouTube and you can.

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Speaker 5: I think we put on two hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 5: subs in sixty days on YouTube, which is absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 5: So you guys can find us on YouTube. We're on Spotify,

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Speaker 5: we are on Apple at the top of the charts.

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Speaker 5: And if you guys want to support our work, please

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Speaker 5: find us on locals dot com. If you can give

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Speaker 5: a gift monthly or annual, do it. And if you can't,

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Speaker 5: just pray. I'm telling you it is the prayers that

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Speaker 5: kept me safe during that public lynching. People all around

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Speaker 5: the world have been praying for me, and your prayers

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Speaker 5: are working.

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Speaker 3: Well. There you go, Cannus, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: taking the time.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate it anytime