1 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Mister Thursday Night is back, gentlemen. Mister Thursday Night. 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: Chris Simms is with us here PFT with Mike Florio 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: every day on Peacock the Unbuttoned podcast Football Night in 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 2: America as well. They have Ravens and Patriots coming up. 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: We have a big game coming up tonight. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: Chris. How are you, buddy? We missed you last week. 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: I know, and I'm sorry about that, right. 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 4: I mean, first off, I picked Tampa to win last 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 4: week twenty seven to twenty, so I would have lost. 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 4: I'm not mister Thursday Night, and I brought that bad 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 4: luck right to Tampa with me. But it was a 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 4: cool I missed you for a good reason. Really. The 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Buccaneers celebrating their fiftieth year right of existence 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 4: in the NFL, they unreleased they released their their documentary 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: of their fifty years on prime video. I'm in a 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 4: few of those episodes that they've been great to me. 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 4: Got to watch game in the owner's box. I'd never 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: have done that, you know, got to show my kids 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 4: Tampa and they learned a little of the history of 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 4: their dad a little bit. 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: So it was a special night. Other than the outcome. 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Were the kids impressed or what I mean? 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: The kids were like, first off, let me just tell 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: you I was impressed. I mean, damn, sitting in the 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: owner's dox. You can get used to that in a hurry. 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 4: All right, Oh yes, so yes, please I'll have another 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: stone crab? 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Please? 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you? 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 31 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: May I have another lobster tail? 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: Hold on, you have to say it like that, Yes, lobster. 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: Tails and four hundred dollars worth of stone crabs and 34 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: it's only the first quarter. Yes, I know, well when 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: in Rome I'm here, Yes, but it really was cool. 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: I mean it's amazing the owners. You know, you get 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: your own TV at each seat. The seats are comfortable, right, 38 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 4: you can hear the telecast. So I'm like, I'm listening 39 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: to Kirk kurb Street. Now, Michael's like I'm watching on 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: TV hearing what they're saying. Everybody's got their own set 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: of binoculars, right, I mean, yeah, it was really cool. 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 4: And then my kids were very impressed. And the first 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 4: time they ever went on the NFL field, right, we 44 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: went on the field pregame and my son especially is 45 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: being a freshman in high school, him seeing some of 46 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: those guys in person on the field. 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: That was a special moment. 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: Did he get a chance to meet Baker? 49 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: He didn't get a chance to really meet anybody. 50 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: You know. 51 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: I had a lot of people. 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: From the organization, people from the Falcons organization. We had 53 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: people kind of coming at us all night as we 54 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: were sitting there on the sideline, So we never got 55 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: to get on the field and meet the guys in 56 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: uniform a little bit, but he got close to them, 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: and I think he was still in awe for the 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 4: most part. 59 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: We'll get to two in a second here, but is 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: he I am surprised. That was the first time Chris 61 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: Simms was in an owner's box. No, I mean shocked. 62 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I've been in the owner's box. I haven't 63 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 4: been there to watch a game, right, That's where I've 64 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 4: been in a few through the years, to meet an owner, 65 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: go up, here's TV stuff whatever to where I go, 66 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: But to actually watch the game. That was that was 67 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: the first time, right, So yeah, been in a few, 68 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: but this was the first time I got to sit 69 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: there and enjoy the game like like I was one 70 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: of the owners. 71 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: Did were you stuff in like stone crabs and shit 72 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: in your kids pockets. 73 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: On the way out or what we No, No, we 74 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: stuffed them down our stomach the whole night, along with 75 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 4: you know a lot of Vodkas as well. So I 76 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 4: was I was good. I was full once the game 77 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: was over. Did the Dolphins do the right thing with 78 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: Tua here? 79 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: I think so yeah. 80 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: I mean I think you guys know where I stand 81 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 4: on this conversation as a whole, right, I've never been 82 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: one to see really the promised land for the Dolphins 83 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: with Tua at quarterback. So that's been that issue, and 84 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 4: I think it's just all came to a head this 85 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: year where like you heard Troy Aikman on Monday Night, 86 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: like you've heard me say before, they've been winning in 87 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: spite of Tua during this little wind streak, and they've 88 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 4: done everything to help to along the way, and now 89 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: he can't even take advantage of the things that are 90 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: served up on a silver platter. I think it finally 91 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: just came to the moment of like, we got to 92 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: see what we got with this quin ewers like two 93 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 4: is not playing good. Forget about this year. We don't 94 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: even know if you really can lead us into the future. 95 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: We got to figure out some things with this organization, 96 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 4: and this is what the prior regime argued with the 97 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: Tua thing, Right, he's not going to be able to 98 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: win late in the season, cold weather games, right where 99 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: you got to throw the ball down the field a 100 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 4: little bit and the ball's hard and slick and do 101 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 4: all that. He's just not capable of doing that. And yeah, 102 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: I think the days of two in Miami are all over. 103 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: Sims. 104 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 5: Not to put any more pressure on Queen Ewers, but 105 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: you do know the last Texas quarterback to win his 106 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 5: debut game was oh. 107 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: I do, Yes, I'm sure you do. 108 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: When you only have about like three things that were 109 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: like any good in your career, and when that's one 110 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: of you, look at me, I was, dad, look at 111 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: that right, Well, you're welcome. Thank you. Few people like 112 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: send me those tweets yesterday, and it was it's always 113 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: cool to see. Yeah, two thousand and four New Orleans 114 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 4: Saints started the game. I mean I was ready at 115 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: that moment. I took over for Brad Johnson, as you know, 116 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 4: who had won the Super Bowl two years before that. 117 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: Brad couldn't have been better to me in that transition. 118 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 4: I mean, he was my buddy. We started out the game. 119 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 4: I think we drove down the field right away two touchdowns. 120 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: I was on fire. I was ready for the moment. 121 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: And then I think we had we had a punt, 122 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: we got the ball back, and I got hit by 123 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: Will Smith right. Will Smith, the great defense end from 124 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 4: New Orleans, Ohio State rip to Will Smith right, much 125 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: respect to him and his family. He hit me from 126 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: the blind side and it separated my shoulder and I 127 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 4: missed a few weeks and it certainly helped hurt my 128 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: you know, just at a time in your career, as 129 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: second year, I've taken over for the Super Bowl winning quarterback, 130 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: and it messed up my progress a little bit. But 131 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 4: I got the victory that day, nonetheless. 132 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 6: And a good note, if you try to google Will 133 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 6: Smith hit, I don't think you're gonna find it anywhere 134 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 6: near like the first ten pages these days. 135 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: You're right about that. I'll let you describe the rest 136 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: of that, but you're right about that. 137 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 6: Since take me back to when Tua was doing well, 138 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 6: because there's a lot of people that just have to 139 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 6: just like talk to themselves and be like, man, do 140 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 6: I hate him or did I love him? 141 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: Back then? 142 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 6: And now there's something wrong with him and I feel 143 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 6: guilty about hating him. What was he doing so well 144 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 6: back then? Because I would argue that it was more 145 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 6: of a a you know, a product of the talent 146 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 6: around him and the coach that he was playing for. 147 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well that's what I did too, And I 148 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: feel like that's what my job is, right, And then 149 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: not that I'm right all the time, but I try 150 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: to foresee and go. 151 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: Hey, wait, this is not sustainable. 152 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: Like, I know, the stats are kind of good, but 153 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 4: I don't know if this translates to being able to 154 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: win in a playoff game or against good defenses and 155 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: all that. 156 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: And I think what the really the big thing is. 157 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: And this is where I continue to stick up for 158 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel and that he invented an offense that the 159 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: rest of the league is copied and stolen all of 160 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: his plays and ideas. It was ahead of its time. 161 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: I mean, you guys saw it. They were one of 162 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: the most fun teams to watch in the sport for 163 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 4: a while. Yeah. Fastest running backs, fastest receiver in football. Right, 164 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: they got all these formations and motions and they're doing 165 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: things at the rest of the league's like, whoa, We've 166 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: never seen that. I mean, people were trying to copy 167 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill's speed motions and everything he was doing there. 168 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 4: You copy how they move the backs in the backfield 169 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: and put them in motion. So he was a trendsetter 170 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: and because of that, right, he taught to that offense 171 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: that system, and they. 172 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: Had great advantages. Oh fake it here, fake here. Oh 173 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: there's Tyreek Hill. 174 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: Boom. I threw it four yards and he runs for sixty. Ooh, 175 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 4: I look good. Right, that's kind of what they did. 176 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: But the league is caught up to that to a degree. 177 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: And like I said, the league, if you watched the Packers, 178 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 4: watch the Bears, watch the forty nine ers, they've all 179 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: stolen Mike McDaniel concepts that he had with the Miami Dolphins. 180 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: So other teams are kind of used to those cheap 181 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: ways that they got to a completions. And now here 182 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: we are in a year where Tyreek's not there, right, 183 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: and we can't trick it up maybe quite the same 184 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: way as we used to. And now I need to 185 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: go to some new tricks of throwing the ball down 186 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: the field and running the ball and doing that, and 187 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: oh damn, he can't throw the ball down the field 188 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: or throw the ball in the tight windows, damn. In fact, 189 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: we're just going to try to cut them out of 190 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: the game altogether and just you know, manage them. We're 191 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: going to run the ball, play defense, and let him 192 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: throw the ball like twenty times. And that's where it 193 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: got to and I think finally they realized, like this 194 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 4: isn't sustainable and we got to make a move here, 195 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: and that's what they did. 196 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: Chris, you know Quinn. You've watched Quinn play a lot. 197 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm certain you've spoken to Quinn. 198 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: What can you tell Dolphin fans in terms of, you know, 199 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: positivity to make them feel good about Quinn? Do you 200 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: have a chance to be good in the NFL. 201 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 4: I was higher on Quinn coming out of the college, 202 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: and most still a little bit because I'm a little 203 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 4: bit more of like I view everything through the starter lens, right. 204 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 4: I know there was other guys that I watched on 205 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 4: film where I went, oh, this film might be a 206 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: little better than Quinn Ewers. But Quinn Ewers, when I 207 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: looked at his film, I went, Okay, it's not perfect, 208 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: but there's like there's NFL starting potential type of stuff 209 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 4: in his game. 210 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: He's got to smooth them things that things out. 211 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: But some of these other guys, you know, if you're 212 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: really greater to buy the book, you go, yeah, their 213 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: film's better. Maybe I'll rank them a little higher. But 214 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: I want to go, there's no way that guy can 215 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: ever start in the NFL. 216 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: There's no way. His arms just not good enough. 217 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: You can't just make it to the NFL going, oh, 218 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: I know how to get out of the huddle and 219 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: throw the check down all the time. Right, So yours 220 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: one is very slick with the ballik Atua got a 221 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: million different arm angles. 222 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: That's what I do like. 223 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 4: And he does have a strong arm where he needs 224 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: to dial up the fastball more. 225 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: That was my complain about him in college. 226 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: Too many anticipation throws lofted balls into windows. He has 227 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 4: the ability to throw some lasers, and he just doesn't 228 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 4: do it enough. And I think that's what the Dolphins 229 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: probably saw in drafting him, to see now to go. 230 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: Wait, he can do. 231 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 4: All the short stuff that Tua does and then we 232 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: have in the offense, except he can also ooh, fake 233 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 4: it and throw a laser down the middle of the 234 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 4: field or down the sideline. And I think that's where 235 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: I'm excited for the potential of quinn Ewers to see 236 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 4: what he can do in the offense. 237 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 6: Stu, I found a quick, quick loophole. 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I have started to talk myself. 265 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 4: Now. 266 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: Perhaps this is the torture Jet fan in me, but 267 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: I have started to talk myself into the fact that 268 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, Aaron Rodgers, the Pittsburgh steel are going to 269 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: make a run through the AFC playoffs and find themselves 270 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. 271 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: Please tell me I'm wrong. 272 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 4: You're wrong? So is that good enough? 273 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 3: Or do you want more? You want some more to 274 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: get there. 275 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: I'm certainly not ready to say anything like that with 276 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm not now, okay, you know the Steelers, 277 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: I think one. I still don't trust their defense. That 278 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: would be the first thing I'd tell you, and some 279 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: of the things they do there, and then you're going 280 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: up against a Lions team here that still has one 281 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: of the top offenses in football and can beat you 282 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: either way run game or pass game. So that's a 283 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: little scary for me when you talk about it from 284 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: that point of view. The other thing too with Pittsburgh 285 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: is I'm still not ready to sit here and tell 286 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: you I think their offense is anything special either. Their 287 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 4: offense wasn't special the other night. I mean, it's just eventually, 288 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 4: the Miami defense was playing great, but when you have 289 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 4: to be out there every fourth play because Tua can't 290 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: complete a pass in the competitive part of the football game, 291 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 4: you get worn down eventually, and that's kind of what happened. 292 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: So I think that the Detroit Lions, too, are. 293 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 4: Gonna be able to take away some of the dink 294 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: and dunk passes we see Rogers kind of go to 295 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 4: on a weekend week out basis they're aggressive on that side. 296 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: I think the Lions win this game thirty four to 297 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: twenty one. Not that that knocks the Steelers out, but 298 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 4: I think you're crazy to think they can make a run. 299 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: Well, what I'm doing there is looking at the landscape 300 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: of the AFC and seeing a bunch of quarterbacks who 301 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: have never done it before in the postseason, and two 302 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: that well, one that has and Aaron Rodgers Josh Allen 303 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: hasn't even done it. 304 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: You know, no, no, I hear you there. 305 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, there's some experience there to lean on, 306 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: but like, he's not. 307 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: Gonna sweat walking into anyone stadium to play them, you know. 308 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: No, no, he's not gonna sweat. 309 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: The problem is is he gonna go out there and 310 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: lay it on the line and try to win the game, 311 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: or is he gonna go, oh, wait, oh oh, if 312 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: I throw an interception, my legacy's hurt, So let me 313 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: throw it here. And that's the problem. That's been the 314 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 4: problem for five years and when he had more talent. 315 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: So that's where I just don't I don't know. Look, 316 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: we're at a point where he throws a ball down 317 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 4: on the field in the middle, like the other night 318 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: he did one time, and we all go, oh, there's 319 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: the Aaron Rodgers. And that doesn't that say at all? 320 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 4: I mean exactly, look, and so that to me, I 321 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: want to be like, look, everybody, that means something's wrong. 322 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 4: When he throws a ball twenty yards, we go whoa, 323 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 4: And so there's an issue there in their offense. 324 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 7: Sims I was surprised that the Patriots kind of choked 325 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 7: away their chance to close out the division against Buffalo. 326 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 7: What did the Bills do in that second half that 327 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 7: flustered the Patriots so much? 328 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: I think one the Patriots got away from their own 329 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: run game in the second half. It's almost like they 330 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: went into the second half or in the game itself, 331 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: with the preconceived notion and we're gonna run the ball 332 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: in the first half. Buffalo will overreact in the second half, 333 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: and then we're gonna come out and throw the football. 334 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: So they made some mistakes. Drake May was not on 335 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: his game the other day by any stretch of the imagination. 336 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: He missed some easy slam dunk throws and yeah, if 337 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: I had a fault Josh McDaniels for one thing he's 338 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: done this year, I think they gave up on the 339 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: run a little bit too much of the second half. 340 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: The other thing on top of that is, I mean, really, 341 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: what happened is again Buffalo and Josh Allen, I mean 342 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 4: Josh Allen and every big play gotta have it moment, 343 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: you just can't stop the guy, right, So that's where 344 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: his stats are so misleading. He's the best player in 345 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: the NFL. And then you couple that with the way 346 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: they ran the football, and that's where you know you 347 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: give the Bills a fighting chance. Their offensive line is 348 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 4: one of the better ones in football. The quarterback special, 349 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: the two tight ends are good, and it seems when 350 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: they can find a way to run the ball and 351 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: get the ball to the tight ends, they're very hard 352 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 4: to beat. 353 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: That way. 354 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: It's just can you do that week in week out 355 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: all the time and have some of those defensive issues 356 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: we talked about. We'll see, But yeah, Buffalo is the 357 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: biggest momentum team I've ever seen, or at least in 358 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: recent memory. Right where it's just like when they're hot 359 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: and it goes you're just like, oh, watch out. And 360 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: when seventeen's hot, you're like, uh, oh, it doesn't matter. 361 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: Fourth and seven, fourth and twelve, fourth and five. Oh, 362 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 4: he's gonna make it happen. And that's where they just 363 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: put tremendous pressure on you. And because of what they 364 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: do on the offensive side of the ball, they almost 365 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: change the other team's offense sometimes because they go, oh no, 366 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: he's this is what the other thing that happened to me? 367 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: Oh no, he's on fire. Let's start throwing the ball. 368 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: Drake May hasn't been throwing the ball much. We've been 369 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: running it. Let's start getting him in rhythm because Allen's 370 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: on fire and we're gonna have to keep up pace 371 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: and that kind of what happened in the second half. 372 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 5: I thought, in my opinion, Sims, Joe Burrow is giving 373 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 5: people in Cincinnati some acid reflux. He's talking a lot 374 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 5: like Andrew Luck did right before he retired. How much 375 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: do you buy into that? Do you think he's actually 376 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 5: considering hanging it up? 377 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: No way, no way hanging it up. 378 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: I think it's more more of a shots fired across 379 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: the bow to the Cincinnati Bengals organization that he's not 380 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 4: happy with things that are going on in Cincinnati. I 381 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: think that's he's frustrated, Yeah, with being injured. Okay, yeah, 382 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: he's been injured a lot because he gets his ass 383 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: beat at the started every year because they can never 384 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 4: protect or play good football to start a year. So 385 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 4: there's that, right, He's sitting there looking at all these 386 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 4: other great quarterbacks build legacies and he's going, damn, we 387 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: can't ever get a defense. It's just me, T Higgins 388 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 4: and Jamar Chase just carrying the fucking team every week. 389 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: That's what it's gonna be. So how could he not 390 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: be frustrated with that a little bit? And I think 391 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: that's what he's saying, even with the comedy made what 392 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 4: was it yesterday or the day before? You know, hey, 393 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 4: I certainly see myself with the Bengals in twenty twenty six, 394 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: but you know after that, yeah, I think of things. 395 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, I mean, that's an easy way 396 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: to answer that question. If you asked Josh Allen or Mahomes, 397 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: they would have gone, oh no, I can never. I 398 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: would never. This is I envisioned myself here my whole career. Yeah, right, 399 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: that would have been easy. So for him to say that, 400 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: I just think says a lot. And what he's in 401 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: lieu of what he said in. 402 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: The past too aggressive Lebron talk. 403 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: Well, I'd be worried. 404 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, except this team doesn't ever seem to help with 405 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: the dream Team with him there, it's all He's like, no, no, 406 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 4: fuck the rest of the players, you just figure it out. 407 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 4: Joe Carrus, and that's where I think he's probably frustrated. 408 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 5: I won't allow myself to go down this road, I 409 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 5: promise you I won't. But if he is moved, there 410 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 5: is no other team that has the desire, the desperation, 411 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 5: and the ammunition to go get him. 412 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: Correct. 413 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're saying about your Jet team. 414 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: You know he's talking about it, Burrow. 415 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would expect so right, Yes, yeah, you'd 416 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 4: you'd be able to do that. 417 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: Now would he look. 418 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: At it and go? Wait? I do want to the 419 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: Bengals Part two. 420 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: Coast version of the Bengals. 421 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: I mean, the Jets have an offensive line, So yeah, 422 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 4: I don't know what happens there. But I do feel 423 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 4: like if I was in Cincinnati, if I was Zach 424 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 4: Taylor or anybody in the organization, I would be a 425 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 4: little uncomfortable right now. 426 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: Because you're saying he's not quitting football, because that guy 427 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: fucking loves football. 428 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: He look, I would be shocked. 429 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 4: You know. I know Joe Burrow well enough and been 430 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 4: around him enough that I think I would be absolutely 431 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: shocked if he quit football. He to me is he 432 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: wants to be an all time great. He wants to 433 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 4: He's he's pissed off because he's going, Man, Josh Allen's 434 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 4: making another run, freaking Mahomes already has three Super Bowl 435 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: wins and he's looking at it going I feel like 436 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 4: I'm in the class of these guys and I can't 437 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: ever get a team that can help me go there. 438 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: So I think that's where it all is right now 439 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: in Cincinnati. 440 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 6: Quick updates, d I ordered you an oversized quin you 441 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 6: were shirt. I didn't hit the December thirteenth deadline before 442 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 6: the holiday, so I'm not sure if you're gonna get 443 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 6: it before Christmas, although for you that doesn't really matter. 444 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 6: I did have to buy a little beanie though, to 445 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 6: get over ninety nine dollars to get the rid of 446 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 6: the free shipping, so I'm going. 447 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: To be fully decked out. Are you expensing this? And 448 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Can I no tuo the ether. 449 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: Because Sims, are you buying into the fact that Jackson 450 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: Dart is gonna make it hard for the Giants to 451 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: find the head coach because of the head issues? 452 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 4: No? 453 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Jackson Dart. 454 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: I think is gonna be one of the shining like 455 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: jewels of why coaches want to come to the New 456 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: York Giants. That's gonna be gam I got a we 457 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: got the quarterback, You're gonna have a top three pick, 458 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 4: and I don't have to worry about a quarterback. Yeah, 459 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 4: and more likely that means somebody might trade up if 460 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 4: we're the second pick or the first pick, because they're 461 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 4: gonna want the pick to get a quarterback. So I think, no, 462 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: he brings nothing but positive to the organization. And of 463 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: course we know that Giants job. And I'm gonna be 464 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 4: interested to see what happens with Joe Shane. I am 465 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 4: because again, if you asked me six five weeks ago 466 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: or four weeks ago, whenever they made the move, I go, yeah, 467 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: I guess it looks like Joe Shane's good. But if 468 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 4: you listen to radio up here or anything, I mean 469 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: the outcry of man, Joe Shane shouldn't be here and 470 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: they should fresh started with a fresh start. It is 471 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 4: making mean, you know, a little wobbly on that thought 472 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 4: to a degree. And you know, there's some good players 473 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 4: on this Giants team. They have a few blue chip 474 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: players and along with the quarterback that I think is 475 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 4: going to make it appealing for a head coach. 476 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: What'd you make a Philip Rivers start, by the way, 477 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: you were in the draft class before him, I think, yeah, 478 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: year before. 479 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: Him, right, right, I mean one amazing, right, I mean 480 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: and just amazing. It was like kind of like you 481 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 4: had to check it out, but it kind of went 482 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 4: the way I thought. Right twenty twenty, his last year 483 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: of football. He couldn't throw the ball past twenty yards. 484 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 4: So I don't you know, I don't know why we 485 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 4: thought five years later it was going to be any better. Yes, 486 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: And that's where I just it's it's fun to watch, 487 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: but can they go out there and beat San Francisco 488 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 4: with a four. 489 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: Yard throw here? A three yard throw here? 490 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 4: Like forty nine ers are going to watch the film 491 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 4: and go, damn, we're not going to let that happen, 492 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 4: No way, right, So cool to watch. Much respect for 493 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: Philip Rivers and everything he's done in his career. He 494 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: wasn't jittery in the pocket. I'll give him that too. 495 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: Tough as hell. I knew that, but and they played 496 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: it the right way. But yeah, I don't expect big 497 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: things here from Philip Rivers to the Colts. 498 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: Stick outs here for our friends at FanDuel. 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It's such a great weekend when you have 533 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, you. 534 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: Have Friday college football, Saturday, NFL, Sunday NFL. It's a 535 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: great time, amazing, What a great weekend of games coming up. 536 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: We'll get to a Thursday night's game last since you 537 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: are missed Thursday night. 538 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: But let's start with Packers Bears. What do you think 539 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: of that? 540 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: What a great game Packers Bears on saturdayat. 541 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 3: Great game, great game? Right, I want to worry. 542 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 4: About the the Green Bay Micah Parsons hangover. I will 543 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: say that a normal human emotion when you lose A 544 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 4: guy like Michael Parsons in a locker room would be like, man, 545 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 4: can we can we actually go where we want to go? Now? 546 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 4: Can we can we actually go to the super Bowl 547 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: and do that? Right? I look at it too and go, man, 548 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 4: that Bear Stadium is going to be crazy on Saturday night. 549 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 4: I mean, they got this team fun to watch right, 550 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 4: and of course have a chance to still be the 551 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 4: number one seed in the NFC crazy, So all of 552 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 4: that is amazing. On top of that, I look at 553 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 4: it two they played two weeks ago. I have a 554 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 4: little more faith than Ben Johnson and Dennis Allen that 555 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 4: they'll make the proper adjustments in a short time over 556 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 4: Matt Lafour and Jeff Haffley, who I have great respect for. 557 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 4: But I just feel like Dennis Allen and Ben Johnson 558 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: got it going right now. Green Bays offense once again 559 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: two big play oriented, where I thought maybe that was 560 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: gone after the two games previous, but then you see 561 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 4: last week and you go, oh. 562 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: They look good. 563 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 4: They make big plays, but then they couldn't punch it 564 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: in the end zone, settled for field goals, and then 565 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: disappeared for two quarters in the game. So the Bears 566 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 4: I think will make proper adjustments to take away the 567 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 4: big plays that happened to them the last time. And 568 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams last week, so throwing the ball in the 569 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 4: pocket was really good and he gets better in that department, 570 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 4: the Bears are going to be tough to beat. I'm 571 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 4: taking the Bears in this one twenty four to one. 572 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: There plus one and a half on Fandal go ahead. 573 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 6: Is my favorite game is jack Guars Broncos. Puka thinks 574 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 6: the Jaguars suck, but if they win this game, what 575 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 6: do you what are we gonna say about the Jacksonville Jaguars. 576 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: This is like, I'm taking this as one of my 577 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 4: upsets of the week right here, Really I am. 578 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: He still wants to be right on Trevor Lawrence. He does, well, 579 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: it was I right or we don't know yet. We 580 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: still don't know, yes, and you. 581 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 4: Don't know either, right, No, no, But I'm gonna play 582 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: that a little of green Bay let down after the 583 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 4: I mean Denver let down after the green Bay game, Right, 584 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna play that a little bit here. 585 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 4: And yeah, Jacksonville, the way their offense is playing I 586 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 4: think they're one of the few offenses that can look 587 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: at Denver across the field and go, yeah, you guys 588 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: are good, but so are we, and we're balanced, and 589 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: we got a lot of things we can do, and 590 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 4: we're pretty creative with our coach. So I think they 591 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 4: can pose a few problems for this this Broncos defense. 592 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: They're wide receivers. 593 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior is starting to really show up on 594 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 4: a weekly basis like he did last year. Jacoby Myers 595 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: was a great trade, right, They got a good tight end, 596 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: Brenton Strange, Parker Washington's good there at N's good, and 597 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 4: Trevor's hot and I think he's feeling it. And then 598 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: on the other side of the ball, right, this is 599 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 4: the Denver offense that I have respect for. But I 600 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 4: don't sit here and go wow. And I think people 601 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 4: are sleeping on Jacksonville's defense. The two edge rushers, they 602 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 4: got two good run stoppers in the middle of dep tackle. 603 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: The linebackers are. 604 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: Good, right, I just I'm gonna play that the Broncos 605 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 4: are a little down and the Jaguars go in there 606 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: a little bit like we've had this game circle to 607 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: show everybody how good we are. I'm gonna take the 608 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 4: Jaguars twenty seven to twenty four. 609 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 6: His last three games, Trevor Lawrence nine touchdowns, zero interceptions. 610 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, one of. 611 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: Those against the Jets. 612 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, right, no, and a lot of them 613 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 4: is not great talent and great teams are playing against 614 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 4: I get that. But it's more about just the look 615 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 4: and how he's going through reeds and what he's doing 616 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 4: in the pocket. That's really what I'm impressed by. And 617 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 4: you say what you want. The Jets haven't led up 618 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 4: big pass plays like we saw like that last week 619 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 4: to anybody. One of the strengths of their team has 620 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: been past defense all year. So they did say something 621 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 4: a little to me to go, wow, Trevor's just going 622 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: to tear them up like that. That was impressive. 623 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Feel free to pick a ball off once in a while, though, 624 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean, well. 625 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: That's amazing, exactly right. 626 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 4: I mean the Jets again, yeah, not a good look 627 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: for them this year. Right, the quarterback situation, You just 628 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: fire defensive coordinator. You're a defensive head coach. Why weren't 629 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 4: you coaching the defense? 630 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: Right? 631 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 4: And you're a defensive coach and you're going to set 632 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 4: the record for the least amount of turnovers, cause in 633 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: the history of the NFL, not a good starts kits. 634 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 2: I maintain these two teams are the most confusing, confounding 635 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: teams in the history of the NFL. 636 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: Panthers Box, what do you think? 637 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm with you. 638 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if I really think either team is 639 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 4: all that good. I think that's the problem, right, They're 640 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 4: a little bit of like, Oh, I mean, somebody in 641 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: that division's got to go to the playoffs and be 642 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: one and done, and that's kind of what they feel like. 643 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: Tampa's defense is so bad, as you saw last week. 644 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: So bad, Chris, it really is. And I would normally 645 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: take them in a game like this, but this is 646 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 4: one where and they're four and oh against Bryce Young, 647 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 4: And I think a big reason of that is because 648 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 4: usually Tampa can stop the run, and that they can 649 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: stop the run, and then it puts the onus on 650 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 4: Bryce Young. Sure, and Bryce Young, as we know, other 651 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 4: than maybe one game in his whole career, has never 652 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 4: really carried the team through the pass game. But I 653 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: don't think that's gonna be a problem here. I think 654 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: they're gonna able to do whatever they want on Tampa. 655 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: People run the ball on Tampa. We know everybody throws 656 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 4: the ball on Tampa. Bryce Young even though it was 657 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 4: bad last week. All Right, New Orleans is still playing 658 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: and got some things that are better than people realize. 659 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 4: But I think they pose more problems for this Bucks 660 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: defense than they pose for the Saints defense. 661 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: And they can run the. 662 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: Ball and Jalen Cocher and t Mac on the outside, 663 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: and I think Carolina's defense is just a little bit 664 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: better than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And Baker Mayfield, who's 665 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: been playing through injury and is not totally his one 666 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 4: hundred percent. I'm gonna take the Panthers winn twenty seven 667 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: to twenty four. 668 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: All Right, the. 669 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: Panthers are plus three on FanDuel Ravens Patriots of the 670 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: Patriots need the game of it. 671 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: Both teams need this game. This is gonna be an 672 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: interesting one. 673 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 4: What do you think? Yeah? 674 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: I lean Patriots. I do. 675 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: I wouldn't make this a best bet, right, I'll tell 676 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: you guys my best bets here in a few minutes, 677 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, I. 678 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 3: Think I. 679 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: Even though Baltimore was a step in the right direction 680 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 4: last week, I guess there's just a part of me 681 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 4: that goes. I'd like to see more. I know they 682 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 4: won twenty four to nothing. I think the score is 683 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 4: a little bit misleading. It was work on the offensive 684 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: side of the ball. It was work. Joe Burrow threw 685 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 4: a pick six, as we know, he'd made some other 686 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 4: turnovers and some bad sacks that kind of set up 687 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 4: Baltimore's offense in some good spots. Baltimore's defense has been good. Yeah, 688 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 4: but this is I still look at New England and go, 689 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: this is a good offense. And I think Drake May 690 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: bounces back. They can run the ball. We know they 691 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 4: can make some plays in the past game with Drake 692 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 4: May and that, and I just I yeah, I think 693 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: of a second week in a row of playing the 694 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 4: scrambling type of quarterback, they'll be a little bit more 695 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 4: honed in on containing Lamar Jackson. I'm gonna take the 696 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: Patriots just because I got a little more confidence in 697 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 4: what I've seen from them throughout the year. Twenty four 698 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: to twenty on the road, all. 699 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: Right, Ravens minus two and a half, we'll get the 700 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: best bets here in a second, we were talking right 701 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: before you came on. 702 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: That at eleven and three, No. 703 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: One it seems like no one believes in the Seattle Seahawks. 704 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: So they have a big game tonight. 705 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: They can kind of debunk a lot of that tonight 706 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: if they can get a big win at home. So 707 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: who do you like here? Seahawks Rams tonight? What a 708 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: great Thursday night game. 709 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: Great game. 710 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 4: The Devonte Adams injury is big to me, right, that's big. 711 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: They're they don't have great depth at receiver. That's one 712 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: of the flaws with the Rams. It's really Puka and 713 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 4: Devonte Adams. They got two two at well. But as 714 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: you guys know, he's small and kind of a take 715 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 4: the top off the defense type of guy, right, So, 716 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 4: and usually I'm in the hey, I mean, once m 717 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 4: McVeigh and Stafford they saw this defense the first time around, 718 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 4: they usually find the right answers to crack the code. 719 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: But without DeVante, I think that really takes a leg 720 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 4: away from them in that department, and the Seahawks kind 721 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: of physically dominated the first matchup. The only thing you 722 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 4: question with the Seahawks here is Sam Donald. That's the 723 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 4: only thing, right, I mean, I know this is going 724 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: to be a close football game. I think Sam Donald 725 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 4: will play extremely conservative, especially early on, knowing that it's 726 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: just like, man, I'm gonna get roasted if I throw 727 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 4: interceptions and do crazy shit once again without the Devonte Adams. 728 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: Now where do I go? What do the Rams do? 729 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna go to the three tight end sets, 730 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 4: which they do more than anybody in football. They love 731 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 4: to run thirteen personnel, one back, three tight ends. I 732 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 4: think that plays right into the hands of Seattle. Seattle's 733 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 4: got a bunch of big fuckers in their front seven, 734 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 4: they got an incredible secondary. I think as long as 735 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 4: Sam Donald doesn't screw the game up, I feel like 736 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 4: the Seahawks are gonna win this one. With no Devonte Adams. 737 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: I'm going Seahawks twenty three to twenty. 738 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: Wow. 739 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: But you don't want Sam out there thinking about it 740 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: too much, right, Like, just go fucking play football, dude. 741 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely, But I think that's a hard thing to do. 742 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: It's hard to do when you've been scarred by that. 743 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: And really, you're your m O as a player right 744 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 4: now is you're good player, but you shit the bed 745 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 4: in big games when there's a spotlight on you. Sure, 746 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 4: and because of that, you got a good defense. You 747 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 4: guys can run the ball. Don't try to fit the 748 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 4: ball in any tight windows early on, right, just just 749 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 4: don't do that. He was way too loose with the 750 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 4: football the first time around. I really like the Seahawks team. 751 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 4: I really do. 752 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: Both of these teams can go to the Super Bowl. 753 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: We know that. I think tonight's the night everybody realizes 754 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 4: how good the Seahawks are. 755 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 7: All Right, who leads the league in big fuckers? 756 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good one. 757 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: Seattle's got a ton of them. 758 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: Seattle is up there. The Seattle is definitely up there. 759 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: You know. 760 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: The Eagles are always a league leader in the big fuckers, right. 761 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 4: The Eagles are like, as I've said before, when you 762 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: see the Eagles on the football field, you go holy ship, Like, 763 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 4: is it just every guy a specimen? And that's even 764 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 4: on the field of the Detroit Lions, who were a 765 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 4: gigantic football team too, But we were on the field 766 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 4: a few weeks ago for Lions Eagles on Sunday Night football. 767 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 3: There's no comparison. The Eagles are. 768 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: If a fight breaks out in the bar between all 769 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 4: thirty two teams, you know, I like to say this 770 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 4: every now and then, the Eagles will be the team 771 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 4: standing at the end, nobody's gonna mess with. 772 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: Them physically, right, and they got crazy. 773 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they got them crazy too, right. 774 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 5: I love that Sims went to his computer like he 775 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 5: has that in a spreadsheet of the big fucker rankings. 776 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 3: To make sure the best question ever. 777 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: Asked if Sims on this fucking show. Congratulations to you, Taylor. Serious, 778 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: I'm incluting all the bad billy questions and the good 779 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 2: billy questions. 780 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 4: I mean, I thought it was okay, Taylor, It's it's 781 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 4: a justifiable question there, right, fuckers. 782 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, hey, big fuckers usually mean wins. 783 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: I know, oh usually all right, best bats, Sims. 784 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 4: What do you got taking the Lions and covering the 785 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 4: seven points against the Steelers. 786 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 3: That's one. 787 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 4: And you know my other team, the Houston Texans. 788 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: Oh they're so good? Oh my god? Are they good? 789 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 4: I I yeah, I don't give a shit. It's fourteen 790 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 4: and a half. I mean, this is a game where 791 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I go a wait, Houston, if you 792 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 4: just kneel on the ball, you still might win twenty 793 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 4: to nothing, right, I mean it's literally like that, right. So, 794 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 4: and the Houston Texans offense is going a little bit 795 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 4: right now, and yeah, I don't think the Raiders can 796 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 4: move the ball, and that that defense in Houston. Then 797 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 4: I was up in the air. Those are my two 798 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 4: where I felt really good. I was up in the 799 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 4: air with the Vikings and the Panthers. I went with 800 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 4: the Vikings. The Vikings favored by three, But the Giants, 801 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 4: I think are check Me's. They've they're the years over, 802 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 4: they've given up. They know Kafka's not their head coach. 803 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 4: Minnesota's still playing for something, not for the playoffs, but 804 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 4: to build their team for next year. They're trying to 805 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: prop their quarterback up so they can go in the 806 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 4: offseason and not have to worry about finding a quarterback. 807 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 4: He's got a little hot hand right now, so they're 808 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: feeling good about that. I think that that will keep 809 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: that team engaged and keep playing. And then, of course, 810 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 4: I think that Brian Flores defense on the other side 811 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 4: is gonna make life. 812 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 3: Hard on Jackson Dart and the Giants. 813 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm gonna take the Vikings even though they're 814 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 4: favored by three. I got them winning by I believe 815 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 4: ten points. Let me just get that for you, just 816 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 4: so you got it. Twenty seven to seventeen. Vikings. 817 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 6: Real quick, Sims, what percentage chance do you have of 818 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 6: quinn Ewers potentially becoming the next Tom Brady? 819 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: Is it at least one percent? 820 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 6: Because if that's the case, I might not actually wear 821 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 6: this retro t shirt. I might just keep it in 822 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 6: the in the closet. 823 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not ready to go to tom Bradyville quite yet, 824 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 4: all right, So just get a few wearers out of it, 825 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 4: and then if we start to feel like it's going 826 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 4: to tom Bradyville, then order a new one and frame 827 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 4: that one. 828 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 6: Maybe I'll just order two anyway, you guys. 829 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 830 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: Mahomes, how badly did you feel watching that? Watching him 831 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: hobble off the field like that? 832 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: It's my buddy, hurt. 833 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 3: I've gotten to know him really well over the year. 834 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 4: I love him. I love him, and uh yeah, that 835 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 4: that hurt because I I Patrick Mahomes in my household 836 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 4: is not only one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen, 837 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 4: but like one of the coolest people I've ever known. Right, 838 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 4: He's he's great. So that that hurt, man. And it's 839 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 4: always like you know, when when you see somebody like 840 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 4: that go down, it's heart wrenching, and you know, I 841 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if they lose to the Titans this week. Right, 842 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 4: I'm going to pick the Chiefs to win. But I 843 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 4: think people are going to realize, like, how many holes 844 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 4: this guy was covering on the offensive side of the ball, Right, 845 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's what you're going to realize. 846 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 3: But he'll be back for Week one next year. 847 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 4: He might not be able to run around and move 848 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 4: quite the same, but he'll be back and we'll be back. 849 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 3: Yes, you know, he'll be back, and he's he's pissed 850 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: off and ready to go. 851 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 2: Yes, by the way, I agree with what you're saying, 852 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: as you know with the Giants, and but Jackson Dark 853 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: treats every fucking game like it's the super Bowl. 854 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 1: He still thinks he can make it to the super Bowl. 855 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: Jackson Dart, Yeah, that's that's what they got to work 856 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 4: out of him a little bit. They definitely that's gonna 857 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 4: be the job of the next head Coach'll be like, 858 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 4: you know, we're not going to get to the super Bowl. 859 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 4: If you think the second and seven play in Week 860 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 4: two is the super Bowl, you're gonna be dead and 861 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 4: you won't be able to play in the super Bowl. 862 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 4: We'll never get there. Yeah, and you know he'll figure 863 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 4: it out here eventually. But yes, he needs a strong 864 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 4: personality head coach to come in and really beat it 865 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 4: into his brain. 866 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the one game we didn't ask you about, Monday 867 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: night game San Francisco, your boys Shanahan might have the 868 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 2: best team in the NFL. 869 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean I'm not ready to say that, 870 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 4: but he deserves to be in the top coaching conversation, 871 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 4: that's for sure. Yeah, I mean, I mean he's. 872 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 3: Coach of the Year. 873 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 4: He should be right up there with Liam Cone and 874 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson or Vrabel. Yes, I mean again, I don't 875 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 4: think his roster is as good as some of those roster. 876 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 3: You got no Nick Bosa. 877 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: You went five and two with Mac Jones, There's no 878 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 4: oh Fred Warner. Right, receivers were banged up, ball your 879 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 4: Kittle missed five or six games. I mean they had 880 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 4: to make McCaffrey not only the running back but the 881 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 4: best receiver on the team. 882 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: So that's been phenomenal. And yeah, I think they win. 883 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: You're not gonna be able to dink and dunk the 884 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine ers with Philip Rivers in that 885 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 4: passing offense, they'll call his bluff in that department, and 886 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 4: the Colts play too much zone. And when you play 887 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 4: that much zone, Shanahan's just a master manipulator of moving 888 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 4: one guy kind of wrongly out of his little zone 889 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 4: area and putting another guy in there for completion to 890 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 4: where Yeah, I got the forty nine Ers winning twenty 891 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 4: eight thirteen. 892 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 7: If he doesn't win Coach of the Year on behalf 893 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 7: of this podcast, we'd like to give him the five 894 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 7: and two with Mac Jones of Ward. 895 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good, he's our coach of the year, Sims. 896 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean you went through most of the year 897 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 4: where I'd go, most people wouldn't be able to name 898 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 4: the receivers on their football team. Yes, right, for most 899 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 4: of the year, And most of the year I'd go, oh, hey, 900 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 4: you on this street corner on you know, thirty fourth 901 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 4: in Madison in New York City, tell me somebody on 902 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers defense, And they go, uh, the 903 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 4: Nick Bosa, No, he's hurt. Tell me somebody out Fred Warner. 904 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 4: Oh no, he's hurt. Tell me somebody. So that to 905 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 4: me is like a little bit of a baseline test. 906 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: Always right, yes, yes, go do it is he do that? 907 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 7: Yeah? 908 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 6: I should, right, Hey, uh, you'll find this funny stuke. 909 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 6: ESPN sort of projected out the rest of the season 910 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 6: and they get the AFC playoff standings and when three 911 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 6: plays six, you already know it's the Saturday for a 912 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 6: thirty window. Houston Texans versus Jacksonville Jaguards. 913 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: Can we bet on this lock that one in? 914 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 4: I don't want them to play that early, right, don't 915 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 4: have to? I know, Well, I'm just saying I don't 916 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 4: want those two to play each other. I don't because 917 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 4: I look at Houston and Jacksonville as one of those 918 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 4: sneaky teams that you've earned me said it go. I 919 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 4: think either one of them can go to the super Bowl. 920 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 4: I don't want to see them cancel each other. 921 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: Out in to get eliminated so early, right. 922 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 4: Exactly, I'd like to You know, I am a little 923 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 4: bit when we get in the playoffs. I want to 924 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 4: see the best team stay alive because that makes for 925 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 4: the best divisional weekend and the best championship weekend. So yeah, 926 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 4: that would hurt me if those two played that early 927 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 4: on in the in the playoffs. 928 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 2: You are rooty for the Texans, right, because you were 929 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: the first one to say the Texans were great, like 930 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 2: you were the first one. 931 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I mean all of it. I mean one, 932 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 4: I got respect for those guys down there. I'm a CJ. 933 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 4: Stroud believer. And yeah, I before the year said the 934 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 4: Texans would go to the AFC Championship game, right so, 935 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 4: and then during the year when they started to make 936 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 4: this run a few weeks ago, I started to go 937 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 4: watch out for Houston. So yeah, I am a little 938 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 4: bit because I feel like my football, you know, prowess 939 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 4: and opinions of the back. Then a little bit here PFT. 940 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 2: With Mike Florio The Unbuttoned Podcast every single day wherever 941 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 2: you get your podcast. Football Night in America. Great game 942 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: coming up, Raven's and Patriots. We missed you last week, buddy. 943 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us this week. Happy Holidays to 944 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: you and your family. We will be here at a 945 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 2: time next week to Yeah, we'll figure. 946 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 4: It out next week. Let's try to maybe do what 947 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 4: do we want to do Tuesday next week or something 948 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 4: like that that could work for you, guys. 949 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 2: I am down with a Tuesday PRIs sims right into 950 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: the fucking holidays, drinking drinky smoky smokey. 951 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 3: Yo, you said it. That's right baby. 952 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 4: Here we go. 953 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 3: It's Thursday night. It's coming to a theater near you. 954 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 3: Here we go. 955 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: Can I give you a Quinn Yours T shirt? Yeah? Well, 956 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: you shut the fuck out.