1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast, George, nor with You. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: Author and researcher Mike Riczekerback with Us produces full length 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: content on ancient wisdom, lost civilizations, UFOs, and the supernatural. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: His books include Travels through Time, Portals to the Stars, 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: Walk in the Shadows, and Alaska's Mysterious Triangle. Micha also 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: hosts the annual Stargates of Ancient Egypt tour and exploration 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: of Egypt's pyramids and temples. And here he is back 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: on Coast to Coast Michael, how are you? 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: I did pretty well, George, how are you doing today? 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: Good? How did you get involved in all these mythological areas. 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a really interesting journey, a really interesting road. 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: But you know, comes down to well, first and foremost. 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 3: I'm an experiencer, so that's where my research into all 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: things paranormal, supernatural, that's where all that happened. But you know, 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: I grew up in Indiana, Jones, so I was always 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: really intrigued with with ancient wisdom, what really happened in 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: Egypt and the early nineties those films like Stargate and 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: really the documentary by John Anthony West and Robert Shock 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: Mysteries of the Sphinx that really inspired me as well. 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: And along the way, I just discovered that these two fields, 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: these two topics were really related and connected to each other. 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: Classic talkics too, aren't they. 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, they really really are. But you know, we 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: keep discovering more and there's a lot out there that 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: is really out there for us to explore. And you know, 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: by no means has the research dried up. We're just 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: really getting started. 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: Mike. 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: When we talk about the nature of time, what are 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: we talking about? 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, when we talk about the nature of time, really 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: we're talking about I mean, time is a human construct. 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: It's something that we have devised to help keep track 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: of our reality, to know when to plant the crops, 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: to know when to show at work at the right moment, 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: so our supervisors don't get upset with us, when to 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: catch the bus, these things like this, And so in 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: that sense, time doesn't really exist. It's really the fourth dimension, 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: and this is where our consciousness resides. Hyperspatial, I'm sorry. 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: Theoretical physics has shown us that we have up to 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: eleven hyperspatial dimensions zero through ten, and time is the fourth. 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 3: And what's fascinating about that is, you know, that means 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: that there are these other dimensions above time in which 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: other beings, other entities, other areas are open for us 46 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: to explore. 47 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: Mike, before there was a universe, was there time? 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 3: Ah, that's an excellent question. So I believe that all 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: time is concurrent, past, present, future, and it's very cyclical 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: in nature. And we find a lot of evidence for 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: even in our ancient symbolism, our ancient texts, that all 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: times concurring. We have this symbolism of ancient renewal of 53 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: you know, as you know, you take a look at 54 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: something like the trees out in the forest, and as 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: a tree die, so forth brings new life from the ground. 56 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: So we have this eternal recurrence like this throughout even 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: that scope of nature. So time is of the same. 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: So when I'm asked what was before the universe, I 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: always say it was the universe. Now, it wasn't this universe, 60 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: but one that reformed from the remnants of an older universe, 61 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: much like our solar system. We've seen and we have 62 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: an evidence for through through science, a lot of physicists, 63 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: we'll say that this solar system was actually born out 64 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: of another. So same thing with the. 65 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: Universe, Michael, what does it mean with time tiers? What 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: is a time tier? 67 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: So time tiers? This is kind of interesting. So when 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: we look at the nature of time in the way 69 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: that I mean, I liken it to a stack of photos, 70 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: and each moment in time like a photo in that 71 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: giant stack. And this is something that I call stack 72 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: time theory. And so each take where you're sitting right now, 73 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: every moment that has happened is happened. I'm sorry, Every 74 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: moment that has happened, is happening and will happen, is 75 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: all there right now, all concurrently, each moment like a 76 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: photograph and a giant stack of photos, and each of 77 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: those moments has its own frequency. Sometimes to those moments 78 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: will resonate the same frequency and bleed into each other. 79 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: That's when we have something called a time slip. But 80 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: if you were to expand outside the fourth dimension again, 81 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: the fourth dimension being in time, if you're to expand 82 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 3: out into the fifth, sixth, seventh, and so forth, we'd 83 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: be able to see time as one whole object. In 84 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: each of those moments again, like a photograph, something that's 85 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: accessible from outside the time, so you can view it 86 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: as this giant, giant stack that you could kind of 87 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: pick at will where you want to go. 88 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: When most people think of time, they think of their 89 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: watch or clock. But that's not what we're really talking about, 90 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: is it. 91 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: No, it's not because time again is it's a human construct. 92 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: It's something that we have devised as a tool to 93 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: aid us. A watch or a clock or something like 94 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: that here on Earth is going to operate very differently 95 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: somewhere around somewhere else out in space. The space agencies 96 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: today are actually looking to try to institute time zones 97 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: on the Moon to try to just cohesively be able 98 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: to keep track of that when we start sending astronauts 99 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: and establishing space stations and things like this on the Moon. 100 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: But it's again, it's really just a tool that we've devised, 101 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 3: but it doesn't really exist. 102 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: In your book, Travels through Time, you speculate on the 103 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: stacked time theory, explain what that is. 104 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was just kind of going through that 105 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: a little bit ago. And again, it's this idea that 106 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: you know all time is concurrent, and you know each 107 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: moment is here with this right now. So where I'm sitting, 108 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: what I did here sitting here five years ago is 109 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 3: right here with me now. What I'm going to be 110 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: doing a year or two down the road is also here. 111 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: It's just each of those moments is its own frequency. 112 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: And so I believe something like real time travel would 113 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: be the ability to access those different frequencies to move 114 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: to these other points in time. So again, each moment 115 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: like a photograph in a giant stack of photos that 116 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: once you could really harness that ability to be able 117 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: to move between those different frequencies, you'd be able to 118 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: move up and down that stack. 119 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: Does it have much to do with the Mandela effect? 120 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: So I think the Mandela effect is a result of 121 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: time travel encounters and people that have been able to 122 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: go back in time. I believe we have real time 123 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: travelers now, and so when the Mendela effect occurs, it's 124 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: basically time sorting itself out again because all time is concurrent. 125 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: That means if you were to go back in time 126 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: and change something, then those effects, much like the butterfly effect, 127 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: would have those ripple effects through all of time there afterwards. 128 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: So when we see things like the Mandela effect. A 129 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: lot of time. It's you know, we see it in branding, 130 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: like the spelling of fruit loops or Oscar Mayer or 131 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: something like that, and nobody's going back in time to 132 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: change the spelling like that. It's just too trivial. But 133 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: that those little things like that can be affected by 134 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: other small differences that have occurred through time. 135 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: And they call it the Manil effect because a lot 136 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: of people believe that he died in prison during the 137 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: nineteen eighties, when in reality, he was released in nineteen 138 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: ninety passed away in twenty thirteen. 139 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's really amazing. And I'm one of those 140 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: that when he passed away in twenty thirteen, was surprised 141 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: because I thought I had remembered that he had passed 142 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: away earlier. And so yeah, that's where we get with 143 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: the term the Mendela effect. But there are a lot 144 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: of these other things that have that have happened that 145 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: people remember very differently, and those memories are shared by 146 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: a multitude of people, sometimes to millions across the entire world, 147 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 3: people who don't have any contact with each other whatsoever, 148 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: remembering the same thing that apparently didn't really happen, and 149 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: so I think what happens with those changes that happened 150 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: across the timeline is while most people do remember the 151 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: current change, a lot of people, in the back of 152 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: their minds maintain some bit of memory of the original 153 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: version of the timeline. 154 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: Did it happen maybe in another universe or another dimension. 155 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: Not necessarily another universe or another dimension. I believe it 156 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 3: still happened in this timeline, but the change just occurred 157 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: and changed this timeline. Now, our physics does show us 158 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: that we do have other universes out there. The idea 159 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: of a multiverses more of a physical one rather than 160 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 3: changes in time spawning off all of these different universes. 161 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, we do. You have these other physical ones 162 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: out there that we might be able to access via 163 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: some sort of portal or wormhole or something like that. 164 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: And I know you're going to want some them after 165 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: hearing this. This is an amazing story. We've got Stephen 166 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. I understand that Malachi, 167 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: who is eight almost nine years old now, was suffering 168 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: with not just one or two warts, but I mean 169 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 4: as significant outbreak of warts all over his body, so 170 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: significant it impacted his ability to really function. 171 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil 172 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 5: to right. It was Ty's book Actually that got me 173 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 5: thinking about it. 174 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. 175 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can 176 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: see that it would work. And so at what point 177 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: did you see that there was actually improvement it's really 178 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: going to work. 179 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 5: Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks. 180 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller 181 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: and then going down to with just little red marks. 182 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 5: The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's 183 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 5: you know one that size the wanner. I thought, no, 184 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 5: that's gonna wow. That's just been miraculous to say him 185 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 5: get into a pair of shoes. 186 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: Yes, how wonderful. 187 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 5: It's great to see. I'm so happy and. 188 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: Yes, utid absolutely wonderful. 189 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 5: For instead of seening it that is blown away, Ti, 190 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 5: this is awesome. 191 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is awesome. 192 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: Another amazing story. Why we're talking about carnivora call them 193 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 6: to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now called 194 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 6: one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven thirty five. 195 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 6: That's one eight six six eight three six eighty seven 196 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 6: thirty five or visit carnivora dot com c A r 197 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 6: niv O r A carnivora dot com. 198 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: We're talking to Mike Ricksecker. His website is his name 199 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: linked up at Coast tocoasdam dot com and his latest 200 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: book is called Travels through Time. Is it conceivable that 201 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: time travel backwards and forwards is not possible? 202 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting is there have been people who have 203 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: speculated that, Okay, no it's not. I mean I believe 204 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: it is. There are a lot of other people who 205 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: believe it is. You even have scientists that will tell you, yes, 206 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: it is actually possible to do it. But there's a 207 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: Russian scientist back in the eighties with the last name 208 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: of Navakov, and that can't pronounce his first name, so 209 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: please don't ask me. 210 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: I was just going on. 211 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he came up with something called the Navakov consistency principle, 212 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: in which he said, yeah, time travel on the surface 213 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: is possible, but you couldn't go back and change anything 214 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: because basically, because of math, that if you were to 215 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: calculate it all out, you would end up with a remainder, 216 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: and you can't have that remainder. So therefore you wouldn't 217 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: be able to change anything. And what's interesting about that 218 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: is you had a couple of other renowned physicists kind 219 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: to jump in on the conversation back in the eighties, 220 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: Kip Thorne and Joe Polchinsky, and it was a really 221 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: really interesting scientific debate which they actually came up with 222 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: the Polschinsky's paradox, which is much like the Grandfather paradox. 223 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: But while scientists kind of discredit the Grandfather paradox as 224 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: a you know, as a kind of tool for science 225 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: fiction writing and they kind of dismiss it, they actually 226 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: agree with Polschinsky's paradox even though it's very very similar. 227 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: Another cop was the theoretic e astrophysicist, right, yes he was. 228 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: His name was Igor dmitri Yevitch. 229 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: Cough, yeah, dmitri Yevitch. That's the part I can't pronounce, 230 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: but I guess I just did. 231 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: Why would they give him a name like that? Right? 232 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 233 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: You know, the different culture. 234 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: It's all right, what would it take the time travel, Mike, 235 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: what kind of apparatus would be necessary? 236 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: Well, personally, I believe that because we're talking about because 237 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: we're talking about frequencies. Nikola Tesla tell us that, you know, 238 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: everything in this universe comes down to frequency, resonance, vibration 239 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 3: and all around this. We have these different frequencies right now. 240 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: You know, some of them are radio waves and so forth, 241 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: and with each of these moments being its own frequency. 242 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: And again sometimes we see these frequencies bleed into each other. 243 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: We see moments bleed into each other, So two frequencies 244 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: that begin to resonate with each other. And that's just 245 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: standing right here right now. That's not even using a device. 246 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: You know, people can use something like meditation to be 247 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: able to access this, which you know, I believe that 248 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: that would be a more sincere form of time travel. 249 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think it's going to be something like 250 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: a dolorean, a flux capacitor like on a back to 251 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: the future. It'd be a lot of fun to jump 252 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: into one of those and zip off at eighty eight 253 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: miles per hour. Where I think technology might come into 254 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: play is if you meditate, use your consciousness to time travel, 255 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: and you're able to do it. I think where technology 256 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: comes into play is being able to harness that particular 257 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: frequency and be able to stay there because these frequencies 258 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: are always in flux. They're always moving, They're always in motion. 259 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: You know, even our own human resonance, which is anywhere 260 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: between nine to sixteen hurts, is always moving. It's always fluctuating. 261 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: So that's where I think technology would come into play 262 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: on this is being able to tune in and harness 263 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: that frequency, so to speak, to be able to stay 264 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: in the moment longer than just a fleeting glimpse. 265 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: Remember that movie about time travel, Way Gone Back. 266 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: Oh, there's quite a few. The one that comes to 267 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: mind when I talk about this is Somewhere in Time 268 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: with Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour. I love that where, Yeah, 269 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: it's one of my favorites, and the basic premise of 270 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: it is falls in love with the image of this 271 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: woman and he wants to go back in time to 272 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: visit her from nineteen eighty to nineteen twelve, and he 273 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: basically wills himself back into that time. He convinces himself 274 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: it's nineteen twelve, and he's essentially able to send his 275 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: consciousness back to that point in time. He's able to 276 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: essentially tune into the year nineteen twelve. And I believe 277 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: that Richard Matheson, who wrote that both the novel and 278 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: the screenplay, and I believe it was onto something there, 279 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: and he did a lot of research into the nature 280 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: of tom And in fact, one of the chapters in 281 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: the written novel is essentially a book review of JB. 282 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: Priestley's book Man in Time, which is a fascinating read 283 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: if you really want to get into the nature of 284 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: time and the fourth dimension. So this was something that 285 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: he really incorporated into that story that we see as 286 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: a fictional tale in Somewhere in Time, but I believe 287 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: there's a lot of truth behind that fiction. 288 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: Eighteen ninety five, H. G. Wells wrote The Time Machine. 289 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: How in the world could that guy think of that 290 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: at that time? 291 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: Yes, he was one ahead of his time. And again, 292 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: at the very very beginning of that story, his time 293 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 3: traveler breaks down the nature of time in the fourth 294 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: dimension and it turns into this fantastic tale of humanity 295 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 3: in the future. But there's a lot of hidden science 296 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 3: and hidden knowledge within that story that, yeah, Wells was 297 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: ahead of his time and thinking of those ideas and 298 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: bringing them to us in a format that humanity could 299 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: more easily digest at the time. 300 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: I'll always remember that movie The Time Machine with Rod 301 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: Taylor sitting in the time machine and these seasons kept 302 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: changing in front of him. Remember that. 303 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, fantastic imagery. And if we could see something 304 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: like that, if we could just see kind of time 305 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 3: moving bi us here like that, I think that would 306 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: be really really interesting. Of course I would. I want 307 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 3: to get back to my own life and continue to 308 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: live it out, but to see the changes like that 309 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: would be really fascinating. 310 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: If you had the ability to go forward or backward, 311 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: where would you go. 312 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a wonderful question, because there's so many things 313 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: that I would want to see, you know, I would 314 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 3: want to go. I want to go see the life 315 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 3: of Jesus and see what really, what really happened there appearance. 316 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: I would. I would go with you, Mike, That's. 317 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: What I Yeah, I appreciate that, George. I'd love to 318 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: have you along with me. 319 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: I must wrote a book about that, where as a 320 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: time traveler, we went back into the time of Christ 321 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: to pull him off the cross and save him, and 322 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: just as we were doing it, he said, you can't 323 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: do that. You have no idea what you're doing to 324 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: the world. Interesting line. 325 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 3: Huh, Yeah, yeah, that really is. And you know, I've 326 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: had those thoughts as well, George, and I think that 327 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: is exactly what he would say, is, yeah, you know 328 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 3: you can't do this, that this needs to happen, and 329 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 3: it would stop us from doing it. 330 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: How realistic is time travel, Mike? 331 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 3: I think it's around us all the time and we 332 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 3: don't really notice it, these little these little things that 333 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: you know, we might catch out a corner of our eye, 334 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: or you know, there's fascinating stories of you know, people 335 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: people witnessing things that they might think, is it is 336 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: a ghost or an apparition? Uh, some of these different 337 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: doppelganger stories and things like this, I believe are actually 338 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: slips in time and we're getting a glimpse of something 339 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 3: that maybe already has happened. Or sometimes we're actually getting 340 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: glimpses of the future, and you know, we're just not 341 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: realizing when it happens. But every once in a while 342 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: we get that kind of deja vu moment and realize, no, 343 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: I've seen this or experienced this before. You know, maybe 344 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 3: it was something out of a dream. And that's where 345 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: I think a lot of real time travel does happen 346 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 3: is in our dream state because our brain wave changes 347 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: through different states and our consciousness can become free floating. 348 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: And you know, people come back sometimes from those dreams 349 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: and a day, a week, a month later, or whatever 350 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 3: it is, actually experience what happened in that dream. Well, 351 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: that's that's a form of time travel. Their consciousness had 352 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: moved to that other point in time and experienced it. 353 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: So I think it's around us all the time, we 354 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: just don't realize it. 355 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 356 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 357 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: dot com for more