Speaker 1: We have to adopt our own kids due to laws.
Speaker 1: The baby that I carried I am on. She's also
Speaker 1: on the birth certificate. But it doesn't mean our oldest.
Speaker 1: His superpower is logical. He's all want to know and
Speaker 1: I need to know with logic, parent, Kay, they just
Speaker 1: gonna make us pet.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Decisions Decisions.
Speaker 3: I don't think you should say decision decisions. It sounded
Speaker 3: like you.
Speaker 4: Was talking to Kursten. You definitely say to welcome, welcome
Speaker 4: to the new podcast.
Speaker 2: You want to say together decisions Decisions.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, welcome to another week another episode of this
Speaker 4: Ision Dision. It's your girl, may ev A k A
Speaker 4: peg the Stallion aka Peggan Marcle ak A what Peggy
Speaker 4: Bundy aka Dad Beach.
Speaker 2: Okay, hey y'all, I'm weasy and we are in another foursme.
Speaker 3: We have two ladies in the building.
Speaker 2: They're not podcasters, but I will say these are two
Speaker 2: people that people keep sending me. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they're just like, don't you know, everybody want to put
Speaker 2: me up with somebody? We'll just be doing that and
Speaker 2: it's probably because your braids.
Speaker 5: Let's telling them to you to go.
Speaker 3: Oh no, girls will send me like other like lesbian couple.
Speaker 4: I know there's one I followed now and you beating
Speaker 4: all her likes and I'm like some girl that does
Speaker 4: this little thing where she dresses.
Speaker 3: Kind of mag she does that sweat ship. What's her name?
Speaker 3: Bring on of me? What? What? What's her name? Fine?
Speaker 3: Say it? I think it's me and Weezy do not
Speaker 3: have the same type. Okay, that's type, but this bitch
Speaker 3: is I'll look, that's what she looks. You know what's crazy?
Speaker 5: So she no, no, no, you know it's curzy for me.
Speaker 4: First off, she looks like a different bitch, which is crazy.
Speaker 4: She does not look like the same girl the one
Speaker 4: the first time I saw it.
Speaker 3: The first time I saw.
Speaker 4: It, she came up on my feet and I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: that's the same tattoo.
Speaker 3: Wait this is because I thought it was a couple.
Speaker 3: I thought, wait, this is the same bitch.
Speaker 4: For me, she looks way more better or to me,
Speaker 4: I'm more attracted to her masculine than them, which is
Speaker 4: crazy because I normally only fuck femme girls because mask
Speaker 4: bitches once they found out I find out, like I'm bisexual,
Speaker 4: like mask bitches don't like bisexuals.
Speaker 5: It's it's it's it's a fucking fact.
Speaker 3: Do not.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, they I don't think they like it.
Speaker 4: I married Wait, you're bisexual.
Speaker 3: Ten years ago when we got married.
Speaker 4: Guess I'm sorry, y'all, hi, and what I threw used
Speaker 4: them because I didn't even hear you.
Speaker 2: We have s KM Island in the building and there
Speaker 2: we go, Stokes Kennedy, Stokes Kennedy. So they are multi
Speaker 2: hyphen it creatives, content creators, and they've been sharing their
Speaker 2: love story online, which is really why I know them
Speaker 2: and many of you probably follow that men and seeing
Speaker 2: them and to be the biggest part of this story
Speaker 2: which we have couples on all the time just to
Speaker 2: talk about love, but it is the fact that you
Speaker 2: are raising three sons and you both carried to your children,
Speaker 2: which you just never tend to see. And so honestly,
Speaker 2: whenever we have to like a good look a couple,
Speaker 2: I'll be like, let's do that on horrible decisions. But
Speaker 2: we need to get into sperm donation. We've been talking
Speaker 2: about evaniy Kay Williams, We've been talking about your friend.
Speaker 2: We're seeing so many women decide to have children on
Speaker 2: their own So I think outside of queer couples, gay men,
Speaker 2: gay women having babies through SuperM donation, the conversation is
Speaker 2: really going to help everybody.
Speaker 3: So that's what I want to dig into. But before
Speaker 3: we then also some whole shit.
Speaker 4: We'd love to talk some queer shit, how mad women
Speaker 4: don't like bisexual.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get into all the fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Actually, of course we want to know how you met
Speaker 2: and on it, No Lie. Something I was thinking about.
Speaker 2: We were recording with Paul Pierce and Azzar before this,
Speaker 2: and one of the questions came up and you said,
Speaker 2: would either of y'all be in an open relationship? And
Speaker 2: I literally looked over and was like, that's all my
Speaker 2: my listen would ask.
Speaker 3: Out the gate. You're just gonna ask them on that episode.
Speaker 3: You have to be locked in. Everybody's gonna be so
Speaker 3: happy to even consider it, right, you should start there,
Speaker 3: are we love? Make sure.
Speaker 4: Before we start giving them all because maybe they haven't
Speaker 4: had this conversation together.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about, is this people sending me though, I'm
Speaker 3: just saying, oh, what's up in California?
Speaker 2: And I'm saying over the like, no lie, over the years,
Speaker 2: like really like it's come up. They cute, y'all should
Speaker 2: have them, But literally to me, I'm like, I know
Speaker 2: the d ms with other women are.
Speaker 1: Like, I'll be honest, We've been on the internet as
Speaker 1: a couple for a really long.
Speaker 3: Time, and and I think that too for women.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because men operate a different way on
Speaker 1: the internet, the way that they are entitled. But for
Speaker 1: women to see a married couple and be like what
Speaker 1: y'all doing, it's very rare, very rarely would a woman
Speaker 1: just operate like that in our dms now in public,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Like we be out and like
Speaker 1: people should walk up to you, or how you approach
Speaker 1: other people, whatever way it works.
Speaker 4: They send y'all like, how do how do you normally
Speaker 4: y'all get hit on?
Speaker 3: As a couple. Me and poups are very touchy.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of PDA in general, which I
Speaker 1: think turns in general. So if you're in a space
Speaker 1: where somebody is I'm assuming you and your boyfriend or
Speaker 1: husband don't know your partner beyond each other in a
Speaker 1: certain kind of way. That almost always like invites people
Speaker 1: to be like, I want to know what the hell
Speaker 1: is happening over there, I'll be telling people get it wrong.
Speaker 5: Get it wrong, making out.
Speaker 4: But I've had a thing about PDA though.
Speaker 2: That is such a great I don't think anyone's ever
Speaker 2: said it, but that's fucking it.
Speaker 3: That's when I started.
Speaker 1: Looking at I don't like each other now. I don't
Speaker 1: want to like you, you know, and you do. So
Speaker 1: we've been like, hey, it's.
Speaker 4: Probably only two because y'all are attractive, Like, no one
Speaker 4: wants to see ugly people make out in public, like
Speaker 4: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't you know what I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think unattractive couples get the energy where people
Speaker 4: now want to see the makeout.
Speaker 3: You see them people, please.
Speaker 1: I was about to say the underlying idea of like
Speaker 1: people who are open a lot of times on the internet,
Speaker 1: the underlying like joke is that they're attractive.
Speaker 3: Like people who are in.
Speaker 1: Exactly right, they say you're ugly, can't get a man,
Speaker 1: y'all dating like that, you're open because y'all are bad looking,
Speaker 1: And I don't.
Speaker 3: Think that's true. I don't think that's true.
Speaker 2: So for those that haven't seen your page, got to
Speaker 2: hear the love story. I'd love to know the age
Speaker 2: you met and really like, was it truly you haul
Speaker 2: second date where lesbians do?
Speaker 3: How much time did it take? I mean it was quick,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't that quick.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't our moment of meeting and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: We didn't get together for three years. Yeah, okay, I heard, Yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: do you have a different story, because you're like, You're like, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's a hour for me.
Speaker 1: If by the time we did start to get together,
Speaker 1: we started dating and like, you know, her stuff was
Speaker 1: immediately at my place. You know, immediately you it's the
Speaker 1: different direction. But we didn't know each other.
Speaker 4: We did try to date, we did try to like
Speaker 4: get for It took a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had some separation. I came to La, she
Speaker 1: was still in Sacramento. I got a girlfriend, she had
Speaker 1: a girlfriend. We split that decided, you know, like and
Speaker 1: got back together. Whole thing before we finally decided to like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna actually try to be together.
Speaker 2: For people going through a breakup, I have a few
Speaker 2: friends in my life and men and women that'll be like,
Speaker 2: we'll probably get back together. Did you know, did you
Speaker 2: always feel like it was someone to run to when
Speaker 2: the breakup happened?
Speaker 3: Did you be like, y'all, this is hilarious.
Speaker 4: They don't y'all know what y'all might have to go
Speaker 4: to the YouTube the way you are looking the way.
Speaker 5: First off, she's shaking her head.
Speaker 4: No, you shake your head, y, y'all, this is hilarious.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Don't have to watch it, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: But no, like I had her blocked, like her best
Speaker 1: friend was still doing my hair and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But I'd be like, don't talk to me about her.
Speaker 1: Don't be like we're separate, Like why.
Speaker 3: Do women do this?
Speaker 4: Do you know there's a woman? Why the do they
Speaker 4: like I have a nigga? Tell me stop blocking? You
Speaker 4: just go unblocked me? And clearly what made you unblock her?
Speaker 4: Because we did unblock her?
Speaker 3: Clearly you did. Oh yes, I called you un blocked
Speaker 3: her to say happy birthday.
Speaker 1: She was on my mind heavy and by can't, I
Speaker 1: was like, where I look at.
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: She was on my mind heavy?
Speaker 1: And it was two years later and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just do it. When something's really heavy on
Speaker 1: my heart, I'm just like just going.
Speaker 3: And she was in town, so I know that birthday toxic.
Speaker 5: You're so toxic. I'm not gonna lie to me.
Speaker 4: To me, Sheve jobs should actually, well I know you didn't,
Speaker 4: but Steve should in in heaven send down a thought
Speaker 4: to women with iPhones, not give them the ability to
Speaker 4: block anybody because they don't stand on business like you
Speaker 4: unblocked this. You unblocked her to motherfucker say happy birthday,
Speaker 4: as I'm in your city, Happy birthday.
Speaker 3: She never had another birthday without me again.
Speaker 2: Now, from the second time around, how do you act
Speaker 2: or what do you change in the the second evolution
Speaker 2: of a relationship, because do you address the old issues?
Speaker 3: Do you start over new? Oh? Yeah, you do? You
Speaker 3: address them?
Speaker 1: And ours were glaring like ours are big, like I'm
Speaker 1: We were supposed to just be separate for a little
Speaker 1: bit of time, and then we ended up talking to
Speaker 1: other people, right, So I think once that happened, she
Speaker 1: was like, we're not doing this.
Speaker 3: Call it.
Speaker 1: We already got three hundred and forty miles between us.
Speaker 1: You down there, I'm up here, like we can just
Speaker 1: call it, and she blocked me. Right, So a lot
Speaker 1: of time passed, like you said, two years. By the
Speaker 1: time she hit me back up, I was probably in
Speaker 1: the worst part of that relationship. You know, it was over.
Speaker 1: That relationship was already over. It was almost kism the
Speaker 1: way that she kind of was like plug, the way
Speaker 1: that she but the way she called at that time.
Speaker 1: I mean literally, I think that my girlfriend at the
Speaker 1: time was cheating on me at that day.
Speaker 3: At her birthday party.
Speaker 4: Wait, your girlfriend was cheating on you at your birthday party?
Speaker 3: Called her.
Speaker 1: She stepped away to go into the room to answer
Speaker 1: my call, and I found out she didn't say no,
Speaker 1: I didn't a call.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hadn't stepped away.
Speaker 1: I was in bed at my birthday party, like everybody
Speaker 1: was in my living room.
Speaker 3: The girl included this is how, this is how low.
Speaker 1: I hadn't have been to have that bitch actually in
Speaker 1: my shit right, So like this girl was they they't
Speaker 1: have whoever else she was dealing with in my house
Speaker 1: for my birthday.
Speaker 3: Everybody was and I had wait and you didn't know
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 1: I knew enough to not be stupid, but I played stupid,
Speaker 1: you know, like I knew and probably could have done better,
Speaker 1: But I was.
Speaker 3: Like it was another girl or a guy girl. Damn.
Speaker 3: Every time I get mad at niggas, I'll be like
Speaker 3: I'm going back.
Speaker 5: No, just ain't either. Let's be very clear.
Speaker 4: Wait, so she brought the girl that she was cheating
Speaker 4: on you with to your house for your birthday?
Speaker 3: House acting is up? She came say happy birthday. She
Speaker 3: brought you these things. Now why I can't believe that?
Speaker 3: Why did you beat her? But you're also shot woo her?
Speaker 3: Mostly mostly it's like it was my birthday. I'm really there.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of reason for me to be like, actually,
Speaker 3: you just want to go get in bed? I was.
Speaker 3: I was sad. Did you whoop her ass? The next day? Like?
Speaker 3: There there was no ass? Well? Absolutely, there was an absolutely.
Speaker 4: How did you want my girlfriend for the other person?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Never, my only only the girl I was dating? Good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did never get even though you.
Speaker 4: You should have whooped the other girl ass too, because
Speaker 4: she came to your house waiting and your motherfucking faith No, no, no,
Speaker 4: you gotta whoop both bitches. Ask Wait a second, you're
Speaker 4: not thinking that the girl who knows that she is
Speaker 4: in a rationship.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if I have to pick.
Speaker 4: A bitch, yeah, if I have to like for me,
Speaker 4: for me, Like, let's even turn this into a heterosexual
Speaker 4: scenario where yes.
Speaker 3: Wait, and you were brought into a sonar.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm saying, let's create a heterosexual scenario
Speaker 4: because where yes, normally you should be upset at your partner,
Speaker 4: you should never be mad at the other person.
Speaker 5: To me, if if my partner even.
Speaker 4: Brings a woman to the house, mind you, we got
Speaker 4: pictures all over the house.
Speaker 3: She knows that this is our home. If a bitch.
Speaker 4: Walks into my house and sleeps with my man, knowing
Speaker 4: that we are together, because she see me plastered all
Speaker 4: over the motherfucking place, she could not ask whooped too,
Speaker 4: just because she stepped foot in the motherfucking door, because bitch,
Speaker 4: you came to my house like it's the principle where normally, yes,
Speaker 4: I believe you should be mad at your partner and
Speaker 4: not the other party.
Speaker 3: That I think the thing is.
Speaker 1: I think I realized that the gaslighting and the like
Speaker 1: lying of manipulation that I was receiving, I would be
Speaker 1: foolish to think anybody else was not also receiving. That
Speaker 1: you have to be a dumb bitch to believe somebody
Speaker 1: and then still follow them into the house. But so
Speaker 1: was that like I was being dumb as fuck too.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm convinced that she was just a
Speaker 1: fucking liar. She was a liar. How are you telling
Speaker 1: that bitch some other ship? Because how comfortable could you
Speaker 1: be that? Like, that's what I'm saying, Like you didn't
Speaker 1: know me. You you you could have walked into any
Speaker 1: You take it as you had to have assumed that
Speaker 1: you were saying.
Speaker 5: So you took it as she could partner anything.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Okay, So you took it as your
Speaker 4: partner was clearly gaslighting and a liar to you that
Speaker 4: she was doing it to her, and that girl had
Speaker 4: no clue.
Speaker 3: No said, hi brought your flowers. She was a dumbast.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm saying. She was an idiots?
Speaker 3: Was it an you go? I walked my ass.
Speaker 1: I was like, give me that bottle, now hold one
Speaker 1: in love?
Speaker 3: Will we beat her?
Speaker 2: As was talking, I don't talk. I got I started
Speaker 2: talking to a bit. No, no, no, I was all,
Speaker 2: you got me up. Tell me when you when you
Speaker 2: being a bitch ass talking. That's a real parental ass
Speaker 2: with Remember your parents used to.
Speaker 1: Hit you with every with every spacon, don't make me
Speaker 1: that's how you was in there right, one word after
Speaker 1: the other. No, it wasn't like that. It was more
Speaker 1: like I was finally trying to leave. She was not
Speaker 1: letting me like. It was more of that. It's like
Speaker 1: you hadn't done all this fucking damage in my life, bitch,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get the funk out of here, And
Speaker 1: she was like blocking the doorways and holding my ship
Speaker 1: back and.
Speaker 3: Yanking on me. I need you to be here.
Speaker 5: So it's not as long as you broke up with
Speaker 5: her first break.
Speaker 3: Up and now out of it. You were at her home.
Speaker 1: We drove down from Sacramento, me and her best friend
Speaker 1: to get her in the middle of the night or
Speaker 1: early morning.
Speaker 3: I forget when it was wait that we jumped around,
Speaker 3: he jumping.
Speaker 1: Around, But yeah, that girl had serious mental Yeah she
Speaker 1: was just fucking It was very clear she had been
Speaker 1: living her life for a really long time, manipulating people
Speaker 1: doing whatever, having them operate in a certain kind of way,
Speaker 1: and expected the same from me. And I think that
Speaker 1: was even like a different type of vision she had
Speaker 1: ever really fucked with. So I think she expected me
Speaker 1: to just be a dumb media too and like carry
Speaker 1: on in this way, paying this rent and doing this
Speaker 1: ship and being that person.
Speaker 3: Wait and you was paying the bill and she was
Speaker 3: like ten years my senior. And this is when she
Speaker 3: was twenty three. Yeah, she was like almost forty. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a real bit like so, yeahll talk about niggation. She
Speaker 3: like they they learn it from their daddy. This fucking
Speaker 3: that she trickled that.
Speaker 2: Maybe I need to close my relationship. Let's get into
Speaker 2: a little tea time time.
Speaker 3: Who won the last fight? I always want to fight.
Speaker 3: I'm the best talker, she talks down.
Speaker 2: I'm the very what are generally disagreements because to me,
Speaker 2: whenever my friends are in ten years plus, the disagreements
Speaker 2: are very like we're annoyed with each other. Do you
Speaker 2: find that you've been having the same arguments for ten years?
Speaker 1: Our arguments are never fights, and they are disagreements. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: very mature. It's very very emotional, emotionally mature.
Speaker 3: For sure. You can stand with that. We don't like
Speaker 3: cuss at each other or like yeah.
Speaker 1: Saying like domestic like you're in a like we've never
Speaker 1: I've never put my well, we've never fought like that.
Speaker 3: And I think like the standard a lot.
Speaker 4: Of yes, especially well especially queer relationships, right like the
Speaker 4: ideas that like you're equal so if you act too
Speaker 4: much crazy and it's like no.
Speaker 1: We had like literally before a family trip and she
Speaker 1: told me to shut the fuck up and that.
Speaker 5: You was mad, and she's still isn't that what you
Speaker 5: just shared on Patreon?
Speaker 3: Said shut the fuck up? And you were like, excuse me?
Speaker 2: I was excuse me. He's never told me to shut
Speaker 2: the fuck up. He's a pretty like even Keel dude.
Speaker 2: So I was greaming like crazy because he was like,
Speaker 2: I feel like you want to yes, man, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh some of the So he goes into
Speaker 2: the bathroom and basically I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: What are you doing in my cabinet? I'm just trying
Speaker 3: to rune your pills to make you calm.
Speaker 4: Down, I said, I said, that's funny. I was like,
Speaker 4: that's that's as bad as talking about somebody mama.
Speaker 3: I was like, he did you should something? I heard
Speaker 3: that on the zoom. I said, he's taking care of you.
Speaker 3: That you're not You're not right.
Speaker 2: He's very that's the worst you screaming and someone too calm.
Speaker 3: I'm like, are you playing with me?
Speaker 2: He's like I'm I'm actually not I don't know what
Speaker 2: it looks like, it feel fun. You really need the baby,
Speaker 2: but I'll find them for you. That hang a lot,
Speaker 2: that ship maybe last because.
Speaker 3: I would have got kicked out. I might have said
Speaker 3: just be like, let's I'm gonna go. Roll one, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go. So I started like you know what I see.
Speaker 1: I think back and I'd be like, see, I don't
Speaker 1: like confrontations. So the problem with like my last relationship,
Speaker 1: if we didn't agree with anything, I would be done.
Speaker 4: And he felt like I was treating it like a
Speaker 4: podcast topic, like this is a podcast. You can't just
Speaker 4: go to the next topic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 4: Like we're going in circles. We're not getting in a solution.
Speaker 4: Wait if I'm not in the move to go back.
Speaker 5: And forth, like I got a table talking to like,
Speaker 5: oh I'm a table.
Speaker 3: We're not getting here with this. Let's move on, let's
Speaker 3: move on. He would literally be like this ain't a
Speaker 3: fucking pack, But I can't move on? What are we
Speaker 3: moving on to? Watching movies? You just pissed off? No,
Speaker 3: let's let's no okay, what you want to eat? Cookie?
Speaker 1: Not me?
Speaker 3: But that's why something separate people like you you wait
Speaker 3: out of here, and you better than none.
Speaker 4: Because you guys been together so long you cohabitate. What
Speaker 4: is the if you are in an argument or upset
Speaker 4: with each other? Do you guys not like sleeping different
Speaker 4: places that night? Like how do y'all find Look.
Speaker 1: It's been my favorite thing to say for the last
Speaker 1: ten years. I didn't get married to sleep. I don't
Speaker 1: ever sleep sept.
Speaker 4: You never, even when y'all are in not so graad
Speaker 4: of a space, you would risk sleeping well at night
Speaker 4: to sleep next to somebody you mad at Like I
Speaker 4: can't physically sip. I couldn't imagine if I'm upset with somebody,
Speaker 4: then I got to now sleep in the same But
Speaker 4: don't you think to start thinking.
Speaker 3: I need to know where and I know.
Speaker 1: We're just like I need my peace. We can come
Speaker 1: back to it and stuff like that. For us, that
Speaker 1: just doesn't okay.
Speaker 4: Look, she said, you're not going to sleep sleeping that you.
Speaker 2: Place, Like yeah, because then I kind of come back
Speaker 2: it's like, all right, this actually now it reminds me
Speaker 2: we're okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why I'm okay.
Speaker 2: But I did have an argument before a bed where
Speaker 2: I was like, I need space and he's about to
Speaker 2: go to sleep on the couch.
Speaker 3: I said, what are you doing? He said, you just
Speaker 3: told me you need space. I need space emotionally. You're
Speaker 3: here emotionally, don't get out to me here? Then I
Speaker 3: need space. Oh you know I need you.
Speaker 4: Gotta go so I can talk about you with my friend,
Speaker 4: like I'm gonna be probably talking about you.
Speaker 3: But that's not I can't do that. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've been needing my space.
Speaker 2: So okay, one, have y'all decided your hall passed together?
Speaker 3: Oh? What celebrity is that?
Speaker 4: You want them to fuck other people so bad? Are
Speaker 4: hall passed together? Who we woulde like?
Speaker 3: Who we bringing in this?
Speaker 2: I feel like y'all have got to watch the movie,
Speaker 2: watch the music video or something on Instagram.
Speaker 1: They don't necessarily like the same type of women. Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean you know.
Speaker 3: Who I'm after? For him? Who? Currently?
Speaker 1: He has been my favorite for the last few years.
Speaker 1: She about to forget? Who are you about to say
Speaker 1: you're into? Is it a f that's a big question?
Speaker 1: Here's met here?
Speaker 4: Okay, she can't lay for us together?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, my boo? Who I just she's
Speaker 3: so about Norton and I think that white.
Speaker 6: Though.
Speaker 2: The first girl that I slept with, it really was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: the first girl that I slept with was really not
Speaker 2: down with skin bitches.
Speaker 3: She got me that. I said, I really thought they
Speaker 3: was gonna be pink, and I know she was.
Speaker 5: I know she was from Key Valley. Fine let her.
Speaker 3: She looked like, it's like.
Speaker 5: She's beautiful, a little bit who is yours.
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with. I'm obsessed with. Okay, keep my baby
Speaker 3: is obsessed. Let me tell you we're gonna have on podcast.
Speaker 3: She was.
Speaker 2: So we were talking yesterday literally and she was like, man, Kiki,
Speaker 2: I was like, really because Keikey to me is the
Speaker 2: girl that it's like, you know, kicking me, teasing her
Speaker 2: little ship, you wan when she came on here girls,
Speaker 2: but also doesn't always like we've never seen her with
Speaker 2: a girl. Really like but I find that a lot
Speaker 2: of lesbians talk about Kiki, and it just surprised me
Speaker 2: because you would assume it would be somebody that is like, oh,
Speaker 2: I know, I'm gonna get that pussy, but Kiki.
Speaker 3: Also, yeah, so you gonna get that bitch.
Speaker 4: I mean women, Utah could be I think I think
Speaker 4: they're I mean to me, now, I think everyone is accessible,
Speaker 4: Like it's like everyone's like them DMS, you'd be surprised
Speaker 4: and responds back like, I think everyone's kind of accessible.
Speaker 3: I mean now when it.
Speaker 2: Comes to discussing together, because we are in a world
Speaker 2: of nominogamy and all of that shape, and you know
Speaker 2: lesbians are jealous?
Speaker 3: Is it true? Who knows? I'm crazy? Y'all?
Speaker 2: Would y'all tryed? Have you tried it? What's been that
Speaker 2: part of your relationship?
Speaker 3: Like, talk about it?
Speaker 1: We should have talked about. I tried to explain to
Speaker 1: her what kind of you'll be talking about all this show.
Speaker 3: She didn't know. I said, it's gonna get it to
Speaker 3: where Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And then y'all walk me when we talk about that,
Speaker 2: like you like, she's like I told you.
Speaker 3: I said, I said it's gonna be you know what's crazy.
Speaker 4: So, now that the book tour is on hiatus, we
Speaker 4: decided we're just gonna get back to some more of
Speaker 4: the runs. You know, we're a rebrand, but keep it
Speaker 4: towards the middle of the episode. It so, yeah, So
Speaker 4: what has that looked like? Has it been a discussion.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you talk first, so I don't say
Speaker 3: the wrong thing because that means you wanted to suggest it.
Speaker 1: No, No, I just you can't be sure what is
Speaker 1: allowed to talk about, Like genuinely, it's the only talking
Speaker 1: about what we've talked about. We're talking about, but you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Y'all grow up in each other online and y'all want
Speaker 3: to like y'all can't talk you were talking about we
Speaker 3: Is it a hard No, there's an easy question. Well
Speaker 3: the question. Give me the question time open relationships, no
Speaker 3: monogamy and discussing that.
Speaker 1: That's a hard question to have, a hard note to get.
Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, go ahead. I would say that
Speaker 1: A and M is not a hard note, but that
Speaker 1: it is not. We've been together twelve years, married ten
Speaker 1: and we have we're not who we were when we
Speaker 1: got married, you know, so in those changes happening and us,
Speaker 1: you know, finding ourselves. Like if you look back back before,
Speaker 1: this ain't Oh I walked down the aisle too, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's totally different.
Speaker 3: I don't know how far back y'all went.
Speaker 1: So I'm so, you know, a couple therapies great for everybody,
Speaker 1: especially long you know, long term commitments and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and conversations happened.
Speaker 3: You know that. I love that you are therapy.
Speaker 2: I feel like couples will never admit that they do
Speaker 2: that because they believe that it's almost a window into
Speaker 2: thinking something's not okay.
Speaker 3: Not even therapy.
Speaker 4: I just love that you were able to acknowledge and
Speaker 4: be so so aware that if I'm with somebody for
Speaker 4: a decade, you're not going to be the same person.
Speaker 4: And I don't think a lot of people, a lot
Speaker 4: of people hetero, queer, whatever, when they when they get married,
Speaker 4: A lot of times you think you're gonna be with
Speaker 4: the same person forever, and you'd like to be because
Speaker 4: that's the person you chose to marry. But the reality is,
Speaker 4: through experience, through life, through traveling, through job changes, a
Speaker 4: person is inevitably going to change.
Speaker 3: I'm not the same person I was ten years ago.
Speaker 4: So to know that you've been together for twelve So
Speaker 4: when did who started changing first? And what was the
Speaker 4: kind of conversation around this ain't the person I'm married,
Speaker 4: but let's talk about it, because I see that you're changing,
Speaker 4: and I want to be able to evolve with you.
Speaker 3: I love the evil.
Speaker 1: The transition career wise, Yeah, as gonna say, you had
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Yeah, okay, personally, physically, emotionally, spirit
Speaker 1: like everything. Twenty twenty three was the year wow that
Speaker 1: SK have that, And with her having it, then I'm
Speaker 1: experiencing that as well, and so you know we're just
Speaker 1: literally like, yeah.
Speaker 4: We're still into Yeah, where did that conversation look like
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three? Like there's a financial shift, there's
Speaker 4: a physical shift, there's an emotional shift, possibly because you're
Speaker 4: now you're dating a new person essentially.
Speaker 1: Was so much so that she doesn't go by her
Speaker 1: birth name anymore. So I remember when she first told
Speaker 1: me that she wanted to be called by SK we
Speaker 1: she had just met like her best friends. So we
Speaker 1: were like in this like friend with the wives group
Speaker 1: chat and stuff, and I had said something like it
Speaker 1: was my first time using it, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll check with SK or SK will let us know
Speaker 1: it's something. And then she texted me on the side
Speaker 1: like I can't believe you called me that, Like it
Speaker 1: just like it was just that, Yeah, the beginning of that.
Speaker 3: So that's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all lot of the things that you know, how
Speaker 2: you said you don't remember the things that made you
Speaker 2: feel like I did something for this person that I love. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just said this person because once you told me
Speaker 2: the name change, I'm like, I never asked.
Speaker 3: For we didn't appreciated. I would have corrected you. Okay, okay, okay, no, no,
Speaker 3: I can imagine. Imagine now, can I just say what? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it got checked.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, it was the name and
Speaker 3: the pink shirt. Everybody got mad that I said that,
Speaker 3: and it was yeah, it was it was no, this
Speaker 3: was another guest. And then they went they went off and.
Speaker 4: Saying it right now because they they went off on
Speaker 4: me after the fact because I was it was difficult
Speaker 4: for me, like to say the and this was this
Speaker 4: was maybe this was pre pre pandemic.
Speaker 3: So this was.
Speaker 4: Like they always learning with people that are non binary
Speaker 4: when they have it with you.
Speaker 3: Now that I have non binary people in my life,
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I should just be so simple because
Speaker 3: they know.
Speaker 2: Especially our show, yeah, like bitch, respectfully they there, but
Speaker 2: you know good and damn well, we are on your team.
Speaker 2: So if there is a moment where.
Speaker 4: Like even that I felt like I couldn't even call
Speaker 4: a bitch because bitch bitch is really like feminine, right,
Speaker 4: Like you don't be just saying.
Speaker 3: But it is. It's about person. It's personally like if
Speaker 3: they do like them, they you could call him bitchy
Speaker 3: because they throw you down girl girl, I said girl
Speaker 3: to me, okay, And if I talk to ship with
Speaker 3: a man, I'd.
Speaker 4: Be like, whoa, you know, I'll be catching myself doing
Speaker 4: that with my straight home. Like when we get to
Speaker 4: where we're gossip, I'll be like, girl, she's not a girl.
Speaker 3: He's not a girl, but we do it ship. It's
Speaker 3: just exactly we're just communicating in such a way. What
Speaker 3: is Alex? Are you want to Mike?
Speaker 4: Do you realize, like as a man, when you caint
Speaker 4: a god something like, what you're doing is condfeminine.
Speaker 3: Have you ever been like I've.
Speaker 2: Called Alex just because the tea it's so hot. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe he's not even really feeling I remember the call
Speaker 2: you might not remember. I was like, baal take this,
Speaker 2: I feel like come for two minutes and it's like,
Speaker 2: so you're not even thinking you're being called a vis.
Speaker 4: As a man, do you feel feminine? Like no, I
Speaker 4: don't call him in girl like because we first you
Speaker 4: ain't gonna feel femine unless you feel fit like we
Speaker 4: do gonna make you feel fine, But do you ever
Speaker 4: I'm not making never offended because anything like yeah, because
Speaker 4: I'm comfortable you want.
Speaker 3: The game.
Speaker 4: I also love him, By the way.
Speaker 3: As soon as Alex said and then I saw.
Speaker 4: The nails, I was like, oh yeah, never mind.
Speaker 3: Hold on.
Speaker 2: Do you remember the very famous gay that saw you
Speaker 2: in Delta one and came up to me? So I'll
Speaker 2: say YAO was literally we all know him and we
Speaker 2: all love him.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, he call me. I don't even know you
Speaker 3: have my.
Speaker 2: Number, bitch, he said, but you Ben's supposed to put
Speaker 2: me on I know he looked like that in person.
Speaker 2: He supposed to put me on home and I'm just like, damn,
Speaker 2: I've been trying to podcast, but like he'll be there.
Speaker 3: He actually straight. Trying to who's straight? Straight? And he's like, no,
Speaker 3: he's not. But the.
Speaker 4: Love that for you I was you didn't want to know.
Speaker 3: But he was like then spoke like he was a
Speaker 3: vibe and I was like he's just yay wow friendly.
Speaker 2: So then we go to every Day People, we get
Speaker 2: a table, so I invite dude over with us.
Speaker 3: He starts getting a drink. Alex is pouring Hi drinks
Speaker 3: and he literally was like, girl, I'm not about to
Speaker 3: play this game many you can't pour drink. He was like,
Speaker 3: what's up, bro, you want to kill it.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this, never setting back to the table.
Speaker 3: That's appropriate. He knew that's appropriate. Man, Let me get
Speaker 3: the funk out of here. I like that. I'm swelling up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I do the same thing when girls
Speaker 4: be trying to be flirty. I literally say, girl, I
Speaker 4: eat pussy. If you don't stop like doing so, Like,
Speaker 4: let's not do this. Like if someone's even overly flirting
Speaker 4: with me, that's not that's not into women. You need
Speaker 4: to respect, Like stop doing to respect me respect because
Speaker 4: you the mixed signals makes me uncomfortable. So if this
Speaker 4: man was getting mixed signals from Alex, I get it.
Speaker 4: I just need to remove my Alex.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, want to play signals.
Speaker 5: Were you were friendly and your nails are painted?
Speaker 3: He was confused. Okay, So we got a news.
Speaker 2: Segment that we were trying out with y'all.
Speaker 1: Okay, and basically like flower tree kind of gay, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: Party and Brosa is gay? I mean, were they not
Speaker 3: a couple for the first ten years?
Speaker 4: Wait, they were, they were together, but a man of
Speaker 4: sounds they but a man.
Speaker 3: It was a trio at first, started trio.
Speaker 4: But they remember when a man that had a step
Speaker 4: in because the want a man that stepped in. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it wasn't and then it was a threesome. Like no,
Speaker 4: because the other one wasn't showing up.
Speaker 3: They split. Do you know how I know this?
Speaker 4: Once you get a close friend and lesbie and lesbian
Speaker 4: not bisexual, and you know all the other lesbians in
Speaker 4: the community, they'd be like, I'll be like, it's like
Speaker 4: gay man.
Speaker 3: You know, when they start telling you who.
Speaker 4: Gay Booma, I will say that that is how to
Speaker 4: google it.
Speaker 3: But this is a legend, y'all have no.
Speaker 2: Facts, y'all fantasy.
Speaker 3: Now on the Hooe tree poetry.
Speaker 2: I've basically taken these song lyrics and I'm going to
Speaker 2: read them like they are a poem. We're going to
Speaker 2: see who guesses the song.
Speaker 3: It's all heard y'all playing me. Why you don't know music?
Speaker 3: I don't know music, my wife, you know, just like
Speaker 3: you know the song I don't know have the song
Speaker 3: that you absolutely you know the song? Wait, why did
Speaker 3: you make it easy?
Speaker 2: And I think that you have to hum this song
Speaker 2: or say it in the way, so maybe it is easy.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm so sitting here flossing, keeping your steelo just once,
Speaker 2: if I have the chance, things I would do to you, You.
Speaker 3: And your body.
Speaker 2: Every single portion sends chills up and down your spine.
Speaker 2: Juice is flowing down your thigh if you're horny.
Speaker 1: Let's do it right, genuine tony.
Speaker 4: But it took me.
Speaker 3: By the way, Let's be very clear, everyone that knows me,
Speaker 3: I make up lyrics.
Speaker 4: I do not know lyrics. I say, bro, now, if
Speaker 4: I said here, now, it's different, said that that is not.
Speaker 3: First.
Speaker 5: What is sitting here flossing? Even me flossing his teeth?
Speaker 1: No, I don't know what is floss you that one
Speaker 1: like yeah, wait, like looking like he was whipping. But
Speaker 1: you know it meant like I'm sitting here looking yeah,
Speaker 1: you're afric Americans cool.
Speaker 3: Now flossing is bitch. I ain't never in my life
Speaker 3: said we wait, But Mandy, that makes me ask how
Speaker 3: old are you? I was about to say, I'm thirty four?
Speaker 3: Really okay, you're not too far. Yeah, that's crazy, but
Speaker 3: you've heard it.
Speaker 5: No one in my whole life has been like I'm flossing.
Speaker 3: Well, no, not the teeth. Well we don't talk, Oh
Speaker 3: my god. Okay, And there's just why because you don't drug?
Speaker 3: Is that what it is? Is this a drug dealer term.
Speaker 4: In the song By the way, y'all asking for a
Speaker 4: refund at the genuine concerts because he's not singing enough
Speaker 4: or singing it how.
Speaker 3: You wanted to. That's crazy. It's crazy because I would
Speaker 3: just be there to see the need to.
Speaker 4: I like, I'm not sure I ain't gonna lie the
Speaker 4: way he beat Gy right, Geny Baby, I.
Speaker 3: Just want to hear.
Speaker 2: But we got to understand that when you go to
Speaker 2: see people that are older. So Mandy and I we
Speaker 2: had to announce something at Essence, and we were watching
Speaker 2: ron Eisley before we were on.
Speaker 3: Stage, and then Nigga had to sit and then we
Speaker 3: had to take the sire off. He took the hat off. Bro.
Speaker 3: You just how to enjoy them.
Speaker 4: Not only that, let's let's be very clear the subtle
Speaker 4: flex though about us at Essence, where we were on
Speaker 4: the call sheet after baby Face and before Maxwell and
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, do you.
Speaker 3: Know what I said?
Speaker 2: The whole weekend, we're introducing Maxwell.
Speaker 3: We weren't. We weren't, but well, you know, I said,
Speaker 3: we had to open for Maxwell.
Speaker 4: But also we were after baby Face, and I'm just like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, we made it. It was like we're
Speaker 4: between these two minis. Also shows our age because I'm
Speaker 4: sure all the gen Z people.
Speaker 3: Were like, yeah, you right, Okay.
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, I just shared a story very embarrassing.
Speaker 4: I was being introduced. I kind of like a gen Z.
Speaker 4: I really think I'm kind of young at heart. So
Speaker 4: I also a weekend, I'm literally being introduced to Raphael
Speaker 4: dec and we're having a conversation and in the middle
Speaker 4: I see Drew Ski and I say, sorry, I gotta go,
Speaker 4: and drew Ski I said, the only person I want
Speaker 4: to see all weekend and we'll take a picture with
Speaker 4: is Drew Sky. Was just on my flight coming back
Speaker 4: from Essence, and I was like, I already did. I
Speaker 4: got my picture of Juicy. I left talking to Rafael.
Speaker 3: To be a Millennio because I am city girl.
Speaker 2: But also I just saw Malenny Gravitz and I started
Speaker 2: chearing up.
Speaker 3: I belonged to you, but then I'll cheer up if
Speaker 3: I got the second dick, but not.
Speaker 2: And to know he's looks like for ten years, I
Speaker 2: want to drink bitches.
Speaker 3: That look I do look good, but to me, like
Speaker 3: you just gotta look up when his pants split and
Speaker 3: then it like takes it away. I don't care. Okay.
Speaker 2: So we've been getting into like the history of sex
Speaker 2: and different types of things on decisions, decisions, but briefly
Speaker 2: because I really want to talk to y'all because the
Speaker 2: personal experience is more interesting. Do y'all know how sperm
Speaker 2: donation started?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, this means the crazation started with animals first, and
Speaker 2: when they realized animals were working, the first successful one.
Speaker 3: What is working mean? I'm so sorry, like that sorry
Speaker 3: that animal's pregnant.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So all then, although we tend to think
Speaker 2: of artificial insemination as modern, it started in seventeen seventy nine.
Speaker 2: There was an Italian priest and a psychologist who performed
Speaker 2: a live experiment where basically he was trying to understand
Speaker 2: how plants grew, and he saw that the embryo was
Speaker 2: a part of a male seed nurtured in the soil
Speaker 2: of a female. Like that's there's still like male and female.
Speaker 2: I guess in plants.
Speaker 3: Oh it is, so I learned that in school.
Speaker 2: He figured, if this can happen, two people don't need
Speaker 2: to be having physical contact. So he successfully inciminated frogs, fish,
Speaker 2: and dogs. Then after that happened eleven years after his experiment,
Speaker 2: in the US, a doctor inciminated the wife of a
Speaker 2: husband who was a Quaker wife and the husband was
Speaker 2: fifteen years her senior, so he couldn't get her pregnant,
Speaker 2: but they couldn't figure out if it was the wife,
Speaker 2: so unbeknownst to them, the first firm donation was non consensual. Jesus,
Speaker 2: he got the wife pregnant with the linen draper, like
Speaker 2: putting linen inside of her and like squeezing it out,
Speaker 2: I guess, and basically use someone else's seamen.
Speaker 1: Oh, someone else's semen to see if it would work.
Speaker 3: This is probably the.
Speaker 1: First time they did some shit like that on white folks,
Speaker 1: though I feel a little better about.
Speaker 5: No, white folks definitely did that shit.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, on a white folks, not on black
Speaker 1: Like when people do non consent.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're talking about like the experiments and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and it's like helpful to know.
Speaker 2: That when it became evident that the woman conceived, the
Speaker 2: husband was pleased. It was never told her she got pregnant.
Speaker 2: And then his letter went on to say years later.
Speaker 4: What he did discussing and that, which is weird to
Speaker 4: me because I thought that once sperm hits like the air,
Speaker 4: it dies.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it needs time. How much time? Like
Speaker 3: I thought like once it like.
Speaker 2: I think that's a river we heard, But I know
Speaker 2: what you're talking about because they do say that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're talking about.
Speaker 4: It like like basically like if a nigga not on
Speaker 4: your butt, I don't heard.
Speaker 3: If a nigga not on.
Speaker 5: Your butt, he can't just wipe up that, like if.
Speaker 3: You want to, like you know, his white.
Speaker 2: Half figure and become like they say women going in
Speaker 2: the trash can to get come out of a content
Speaker 2: won't work.
Speaker 3: It won't work, that's what they say. It's not true.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't die instantly. It takes a couple of minutes,
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4: So that means if a nigga not on my butt,
Speaker 4: I could take it off my butt, put it in
Speaker 4: my pussy and get pregnant yes, I watched a video
Speaker 4: where this, oh, we tell him the wrong things, like
Speaker 4: it was a movie maybe, and I don't know, it
Speaker 4: was a white baby a movie instead of like a
Speaker 4: proper story, Like it wasn't like a journalism.
Speaker 3: It was like a movie. It wasn't the journey, but
Speaker 3: it was off, okay, off something factual.
Speaker 1: But the whole story was that she had jacked out
Speaker 1: her boyfriend, like they had laid by each other and
Speaker 1: did something, and she was pregnant and he was convinced,
Speaker 1: like she thought she was married at that point because
Speaker 1: she was like I didn't ever touch it, like I
Speaker 1: never was near it quick enough and like somebody had
Speaker 1: been enough math to be like it got on her,
Speaker 1: near her, and it was alive and.
Speaker 3: It started swimming to get up. No, I'm not coming on. Wait, girl,
Speaker 3: on your.
Speaker 5: Couchie is fucking there pull out?
Speaker 4: That is the pull out? Who said, girl, you know
Speaker 4: on your couchie. Of course your coachi is still wet.
Speaker 4: The swimmers go swim in the pond, swimming pull out
Speaker 4: that crazy pull out a cum on your couchie, you
Speaker 4: could still on it, like you know, yeah, but if.
Speaker 5: It's wet, it's like a pond, so they have something
Speaker 5: to swimming.
Speaker 3: I don't claim to be a sex education crazy Okay,
Speaker 3: so that's that. God, sperm donation has been to me
Speaker 3: crazy around Do.
Speaker 2: You remember how much ship they were talking about ebide
Speaker 2: k Williams really showed me like, oh, you can't make
Speaker 2: a choice being alone. You can't be a choice be
Speaker 2: with somebody like.
Speaker 3: You can or you can't.
Speaker 5: You can't people, well, people just gon have something to say.
Speaker 2: The way they talked about her for being in her
Speaker 2: forties and using a sperm don or the best read
Speaker 2: of all time. All you know is jo sperm donor pizza,
Speaker 2: so check that. So it's like that was Kendra. I
Speaker 2: actually like even though that was the best thing of
Speaker 2: all time, I do it was, But she was talking
Speaker 2: about Apollo, So it's like, I want to talk about the.
Speaker 3: Ny you just called her air and.
Speaker 2: Basically like I think the whole thing of that really
Speaker 2: shows you it should be like women want to keep
Speaker 2: it a secret because everybody's gonna be like you can
Speaker 2: meet somebody whatever.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Now in the case of YouTube, I'm so curious how
Speaker 2: you got to the point where you said adoption sperm
Speaker 2: donation should be someone we know should be somebody that
Speaker 2: we how did this all?
Speaker 3: Did you go to a bank? Did you a friend
Speaker 3: or finances? Was that ship for his money? Okay?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the easiest place to start. So that's why
Speaker 1: it was no ida for our I v for I've
Speaker 1: also been for a long time, so it ain't no insurance.
Speaker 1: But you did and you have three kids, so did
Speaker 1: one of you carry? Did both of you carry? So
Speaker 1: at the top when I met my lynch, she had
Speaker 1: a son okay, had a son okay, and then I
Speaker 1: had two after I.
Speaker 3: Had one, and then we had to I carried first, okay, And.
Speaker 4: Did he have to fuck? Like where did the sperm
Speaker 4: come from? If you was talking about money?
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's less less clear.
Speaker 3: This was a stretch right off. No, not like that,
Speaker 3: not like that. That's her nineteen seventy nine. We were
Speaker 3: talking about Okay, you don't need but an how did
Speaker 3: you apologize bag that you need? What did you say?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: Some viewers are we don't know how to know the
Speaker 3: filter that you filtered to save it.
Speaker 4: Through like the literal I just know we all thought
Speaker 4: about non monogamy, but if it's done for science and
Speaker 4: done for a purpose.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not considered cheating, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like I like, I don't like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know what though, I would feel like if this
Speaker 2: was my wife and I knew they had to do
Speaker 2: that to get pregnant, it would then make me feel
Speaker 2: like it wasn't ours, Like I wouldn't feel like there
Speaker 2: was this connection because you just got to do this
Speaker 2: thing and bring life with somebody else, Like I would
Speaker 2: want to be a part of this if.
Speaker 3: They had it. But I'm not talking because you.
Speaker 2: I mean when I was.
Speaker 1: Watching The l Words when I was younger, that episode
Speaker 1: that everybody when Tina and and what's the name went
Speaker 1: to the club found that boy she was faking like
Speaker 1: a three step and he realized when he kept trying
Speaker 1: to put a condom on and they kept being like no,
Speaker 1: I was like, y'all try to get on the episode.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like that they were like using turkey base
Speaker 2: or whatever making about her like So to me, that
Speaker 2: is how I would want to do it.
Speaker 1: So it was really interesting that you say that because
Speaker 1: in that episode where they do choose to have a threesome,
Speaker 1: they are doing it together. It is already very much
Speaker 1: locked into what there. It's not even about him at all.
Speaker 3: They just want his firm. Yeah, it was still very
Speaker 3: m Yeah, but if I'm not there, I'm gonna feel.
Speaker 4: Like, so, how did how did both of your how
Speaker 4: were your experiences different with the assemination?
Speaker 3: Like, can we know y'all's story?
Speaker 1: We have a yes, we have a known donor. Okay,
Speaker 1: when we found a known donor, we made it and
Speaker 1: he's very open. He was very honest with us. He's like,
Speaker 1: whatever you guys want to do, we put in a contract.
Speaker 3: We we figured it out.
Speaker 1: He's a closer person than that, so we were able
Speaker 1: to just have a conversation. He's like, do you already
Speaker 1: be involved? Do you not want me to be involved?
Speaker 1: Do you want me to be private? Do you want
Speaker 1: me to be public? Do you want like he was
Speaker 1: very fa check it off and when involved in the
Speaker 1: child's life, okay, no sex over here.
Speaker 4: So that was so you were the contract was specifically
Speaker 4: around using his firm to create life, and then the
Speaker 4: conversation agreement donor agreement and the conversations around that was
Speaker 4: how present he can.
Speaker 3: Be if you wanted to be what you wanted as
Speaker 3: well with all was back right, yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 2: Were you learning those answers with him when you guys
Speaker 2: spoke for the first time. Did you already discuss like
Speaker 2: what you wanted before talking to him a little bit?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, because we had tried for years before, yeah, two
Speaker 1: years before finally reaching out to him. And as you
Speaker 1: just jumped straight to did y'all fuck? So did a
Speaker 1: couple of other men that we had friends. They were
Speaker 1: like and like, had only said yes because he thought
Speaker 1: he was about to fuck me up, shut up, don't
Speaker 1: talk no more no. And I was just like beg
Speaker 1: to know that that's how you wanted it to be.
Speaker 1: And then the other friend told me, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I love you, but a child needs a father in
Speaker 1: his life.
Speaker 3: So the whole time you've been homophobic, bitch, get out
Speaker 3: of here.
Speaker 5: So you have all these well yeah, because even that
Speaker 5: the process.
Speaker 4: You don't want to prograte with someone because then they
Speaker 4: don't they don't respect this union.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. So I was all like, wow, we
Speaker 1: got to see really, yeah, just.
Speaker 3: To s k because of these experiences you had, did
Speaker 3: you give up at any point? No, it was always
Speaker 3: for her. He just assumed it was me and I
Speaker 3: was just like it was always always. Now, let's talk
Speaker 3: about break that down a little bit.
Speaker 2: Pregnant, You get the because we could see we we
Speaker 2: know what we're seeing in this dynamic. We're seeing someone
Speaker 2: more mask presenting when choosing to carry Did you feel
Speaker 2: those stairs.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty three?
Speaker 1: She was not mask presenting. I were a baby when
Speaker 1: I had this baby, I had nails on. Okay, So
Speaker 1: it's just saying like when we met I we're very
Speaker 1: much different.
Speaker 3: How old? How old are the children now? Five and three?
Speaker 4: Is there a conversation because of course you go to
Speaker 4: schools and there's these.
Speaker 3: Whole dynamics about mommy, daddy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Is there a conversation at all about who the father
Speaker 4: is or is he able to be introduced?
Speaker 2: What was the what was was this with your children?
Speaker 2: I think she's with your children? Yeah, basically I think
Speaker 2: the questions around about is really like where do your
Speaker 2: children think they've come from?
Speaker 5: Because yeah, that's taught in schools and I'm sure you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, our kids haven't necessarily gotten to an age like
Speaker 1: they came from my stomach.
Speaker 3: That's they can photos.
Speaker 1: Our five year old who is on the spectrum. It's
Speaker 1: very logical, it's very He's like my skin, mattress, Mama's skin.
Speaker 1: I was in her belly. Was the all match skins?
Speaker 1: You were in her belly?
Speaker 3: Now, okay, Mama and mommy. Yeah, I have another like
Speaker 3: lesbian couple of it.
Speaker 2: I know that I can seeing right now, and I'm
Speaker 2: like drunk with one of mom who's going to be mama.
Speaker 3: She's like the people waiting now, so I don't do
Speaker 3: said it's mama and mommy. Yeah, but I think it's
Speaker 3: daddy and dadda.
Speaker 4: Have you had the conversation when they get older around
Speaker 4: I mean clearly again and sex that they're going to
Speaker 4: learn that the sperm has to swim.
Speaker 1: Oh, and that's the thing. Lennox is our oldest is
Speaker 1: like she said, all the spectrum. His superpower is fucking logical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you read everything. So he'll get back.
Speaker 1: He's already questioned, I can't give you a okay when
Speaker 1: you get older, he'll be like, what year?
Speaker 3: When? When should I ask him? Gain? He don't play
Speaker 3: that shit. He's I want to know, and I need
Speaker 3: to know with logic, and if it doesn't make sense,
Speaker 3: he'll ask a.
Speaker 4: Fallow Now there's a conversation often around adopted children, right,
Speaker 4: just wanting to meet biological parents.
Speaker 3: And you both talk about adopting. Who did you adopt?
Speaker 1: It says no, okay, no, but oh, we have to
Speaker 1: adopt our own kids due to laws and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, the baby that I carried, I am she's
Speaker 1: also on the pir certificate. But he doesn't mean enough, right,
Speaker 1: there's not enough laws that protect things.
Speaker 2: Hold on, wait wait wait, you're both on the per
Speaker 2: certificate and there's not enough.
Speaker 3: That's not enough. That's not Yeah, that don't acknowledge that.
Speaker 1: That don't Yeah, they could just if we went somewhere else,
Speaker 1: they could be like to, that doesn't count.
Speaker 3: So who adopts whose?
Speaker 1: I have linux who she carried and she has adopt matics?
Speaker 1: Who get the fuck out of here?
Speaker 3: So parents.
Speaker 2: Pet?
Speaker 3: Okay? So then did the guy have to give up
Speaker 3: his rights?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Did he have to be involved in the donor agreement?
Speaker 3: We kind of already have.
Speaker 1: That of the paperwork because I did start the process
Speaker 1: two years when we got pregnant with Maddox, and so
Speaker 1: I started, it got kicked back to me. So that's
Speaker 1: why I'm like, I still need to do it because
Speaker 1: they would like run me through everything. It was horrible,
Speaker 1: but we had to go get it what's it called notarized?
Speaker 1: And so we agreed on this donor agreement. I put
Speaker 1: like five different ones that I pulled online and just
Speaker 1: like cut yeah, and then you know, we agreed on
Speaker 1: our things and then he signed. We got it notarized,
Speaker 1: and then that had to be sick in with all
Speaker 1: of the second parent adoption paperwork because they, of course
Speaker 1: all the paperwork says who's the father of the child?
Speaker 2: You know that I will say this though, something I
Speaker 2: think about being just helpful, Like you remember when like
Speaker 2: super super liberals, which I thought I was, until people
Speaker 2: were like, oh, the child doesn't have a sex when born,
Speaker 2: and like also, uh, there's a show called Polly Family
Speaker 2: where they are in a quad and the woman didn't
Speaker 2: know who was carrying her baby.
Speaker 3: I don't know. The woman didn't know who her father.
Speaker 2: She has her husband and her boyfriend, they're all a couple.
Speaker 2: And so one of the questions raised was like, but
Speaker 2: what about hereditary shit, what about like blood type? Like
Speaker 2: don't you want to look this up? She's like no,
Speaker 2: it's going to really cause a rift in our relationship,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I hold you as someone that
Speaker 2: doesn't think y'all.
Speaker 5: Because we're talking about health.
Speaker 2: My husband is basically like, if it's her boyfriend's baby
Speaker 2: and not mine, am I gonna have a hard time.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a hard times in this kid. So
Speaker 2: they have two children that they don't know the father of.
Speaker 2: And that was one of the first times where I
Speaker 2: was like, am I becoming Harry pobably again?
Speaker 3: Because Nigga is too far.
Speaker 2: You gotta say, at some point my ego is less
Speaker 2: important than my kid's health. Sure, And it really started
Speaker 2: to get strange for me to watch it because where
Speaker 2: I started to watch the show because I loved it,
Speaker 2: I was like, that's gonna be me. I was like, dog,
Speaker 2: y'all too far, Like this is crazy, this is crazy.
Speaker 2: So the dude got the kids blood tested. The blood
Speaker 2: type was oh, and then one of the fathers reached out.
Speaker 2: He's like, but now we know whose baby it is,
Speaker 2: and God's so upset, Like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ignorance is bliss some people, most.
Speaker 3: Straight men in that situation would want to know them.
Speaker 3: Niggas would love to be right. So a lot of
Speaker 3: people have a heart.
Speaker 2: So she was they basically they swapped nights, think of
Speaker 2: sister wives, but with a couple, so each person swapped nights.
Speaker 5: So she didn't know have you And I'm not sure
Speaker 5: what was in the agreement, but I'm curious.
Speaker 4: What if when your sons get older they want to
Speaker 4: meet their father, is that they can't their donor, their donor?
Speaker 3: They're done? I'm sorry their donor? Is that that's part
Speaker 3: of it? That's possible, Okay, I would love to know.
Speaker 2: Just using that language, my friends that are pregnant right
Speaker 2: now say father instead of donor.
Speaker 3: Do you believe that's a personal ship.
Speaker 5: My friends with baby daddies call them donors, right.
Speaker 4: Like they called it like I referred to I think
Speaker 4: my dad in my in the book as like the
Speaker 4: woman I'd a lot of that's the nigga my mama
Speaker 4: chose to have a baby with.
Speaker 3: Like it's I've removed the word father.
Speaker 4: A lot of my friends, especially who are single parents,
Speaker 4: they refer to it ain't baby daddy. They call them
Speaker 4: donors because like and and again, there's so many different
Speaker 4: arrangements that could happen. But to me, that's how disconnected
Speaker 4: they are to how that person is showing up in
Speaker 4: the life for their child.
Speaker 3: How has it been when he's around. Fine, I mean,
Speaker 3: we love them, That's what I'm saying. It's not it's
Speaker 3: a friend. It's as you know. Yeah, I'm a strange person.
Speaker 1: I think in the case of like your friends having
Speaker 1: somebody that their kids can call father, we have friends
Speaker 1: too who have children and they also let.
Speaker 3: Their children or they all refer to the donor. It's
Speaker 3: an agreement. I love that I may see that guy
Speaker 3: once a month, so it's still an arrangement that works
Speaker 3: for them. It's not about it. It is you are
Speaker 3: this father figure and we're going to use that. We
Speaker 3: don't necessarily need to do that before we started that.
Speaker 2: This was so interesting because a few years ago, Vannie
Speaker 2: and I have talked about this a lot, and one
Speaker 2: of the things that Vinnie and I talked about were like,
Speaker 2: he's like, I really feel like you're gonna get emotional
Speaker 2: and like not like I want, Vinnie, but like you're
Speaker 2: a family girl. You want like, will our friendship go
Speaker 2: away because we did this thing? He doesn't He don't
Speaker 2: want to have a baby, yes.
Speaker 3: Because you know, I'm like, you're the child of your father,
Speaker 3: I mean, the father of your child. Are we friends anymore?
Speaker 2: Will you start to look at me differently to the
Speaker 2: expectations of me changed?
Speaker 3: We're talking about before this relationship you with a friend
Speaker 3: co parent.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so we've discussed it and we're really really close. Yes,
Speaker 2: ten years we've been friends. And he was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, girl, I just feel like you're going to
Speaker 2: start changing.
Speaker 3: Because he just wanted to donate and not be in
Speaker 3: the child's life.
Speaker 1: Do I think that you would want your child to
Speaker 1: have a father in that in that capacity? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like I want to have a partner.
Speaker 2: You can't even answer your question now, And that's how
Speaker 2: I think I think he felt it, and he's probably like, damn,
Speaker 2: you probably want me around.
Speaker 3: You probably want this kid. He said, you could take
Speaker 3: this sperm baby agreement. It's like you are not the virus.
Speaker 3: I want to ask the mary. We don't acquire any
Speaker 3: Can I ask then ignorant question? Nervous?
Speaker 2: I do you already asked today? I was Actually my
Speaker 2: next question was really like, so how did you get pregnant?
Speaker 4: Oh, well, no, that ain't I'm going a little more
Speaker 4: ignorant with a syringe baby.
Speaker 3: Together at home or it was he wouldn't like, we're
Speaker 3: on the way, I'm oculating.
Speaker 1: He'd be like, all right, I'm putting in this cup
Speaker 1: and I would go for a run and then we
Speaker 1: go insidement. We'd go into the permanent and be a
Speaker 1: little Ramikin sitting on the on the dresser, you.
Speaker 3: Know everyone, you know everyone's and then put something. Okay.
Speaker 1: Even though once we did go to the fertility clinic,
Speaker 1: what the doctor said that it wasn't really she said,
Speaker 1: do you know how many women get pregnant and don't
Speaker 1: have an orgasm?
Speaker 3: Would never have baby? Yeah? You know right, yes you do.
Speaker 3: Not okay, but yes, I know we're ready just a
Speaker 3: little bit, just a little bits. Okay.
Speaker 4: Maybe my mom went a little ignorant to but I
Speaker 4: feel like someone else's mind went to to maybe our
Speaker 4: male listeners.
Speaker 3: You have listeners. You have every sign accommodate them male listeners.
Speaker 3: I know not I'm trying to accommodate the male listeners.
Speaker 4: But there is a narrative that boys need a father figure,
Speaker 4: boys need to be raised by men.
Speaker 3: Boys. You know, I know this.
Speaker 1: I know it's only laughable because like how many boys
Speaker 1: are raised by women across.
Speaker 3: The moms that there all dallis who raised mom raised you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they that ship they need.
Speaker 1: To This is because I didn't have it, and I
Speaker 1: would have been better if I had it. No, maybe
Speaker 1: all possibly a possible, But did you not make it?
Speaker 1: Like you you're still a fully established person, you still
Speaker 1: are well rounded. Had your mother but maybe had some
Speaker 1: ability to put you like, have male figures in your
Speaker 1: life that maybe.
Speaker 3: You still would have been full. Three of y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's a lot of many two parent households?
Speaker 2: How many of y'all in the room there we gosars?
Speaker 3: You still go with your dad?
Speaker 1: You really impactful in your life. And that's two out
Speaker 1: of three, two out of three talking to you. Eventually
Speaker 1: she got married, she got okay, oh okay, but both single,
Speaker 1: you got the world there you She's like, I did
Speaker 1: both and now you got with you your mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you have both in the house. Amazing.
Speaker 3: How old divorced?
Speaker 4: Oh that's pretty Did you feel like that there were
Speaker 4: only because too, Like we've seen.
Speaker 3: A lot of celebrities.
Speaker 4: I think Nelly just said it like that he doesn't
Speaker 4: even feel like he needs to be around the baby
Speaker 4: until a certain age to teach a man.
Speaker 3: But yeah.
Speaker 1: Literally, he said that when that baby needs to be talking, like,
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to engage while it's crying, feeding, changing,
Speaker 1: none of that. That's and women give men like that pussy.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, like, oh, I got a babysit the kids
Speaker 2: to night, and he's like, I remember he got off
Speaker 2: the phone.
Speaker 3: He's actually made me like, babysit your own.
Speaker 2: It was early on in our relationship. He was like,
Speaker 2: is this nigga talk about he had a babysitting all
Speaker 2: the sun?
Speaker 3: Sound stupid?
Speaker 1: That's the standard a lot of times, Like, let's be real,
Speaker 1: we hear those kinds of conversations all the time, men
Speaker 1: babysitting their children.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I answer, she got two brothers. I got two brothers.
Speaker 1: They have a godfather, and they're like they got a grandfather.
Speaker 1: Her son got a daddy and I carry the older Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they got there. So as a seventeen year old,
Speaker 1: when you have these con well that's an adult.
Speaker 5: That's no, no, no, you don't even look like you
Speaker 5: would have no seventeen year old By.
Speaker 2: God damn hours, How were the conversations like with him
Speaker 2: since he was older?
Speaker 3: When you and sk decided to, you know, get pregnant.
Speaker 3: Did you feel like you're m because maybe excited to
Speaker 3: have he was ailing. I think the one thing I
Speaker 3: remember him, I took him to lunch when he was
Speaker 3: how old he is? You're right, you told him. I
Speaker 3: took him out and I was like, yeah, I took
Speaker 3: him to a place he was eating buffet, you know
Speaker 3: your mom.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I got a baby my stomach
Speaker 1: and he just was like what And then he was
Speaker 1: like shocked a little bit. And then he said, I
Speaker 1: had to cry and I and my little cancer can yeah.
Speaker 1: And then and then he was like, you know, like
Speaker 1: an only child, immediately selfish, how old girl, I can't
Speaker 1: play with these kids?
Speaker 3: And I count, wow, that's so beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then the conversation of like telling him that I
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend, right, because he did have both his
Speaker 1: parents and then we surarated when he was young, like
Speaker 1: too was when he was five in kindergarten was when
Speaker 1: I had the conversation and told him like, well, me
Speaker 1: has a girlfriend. So there was like that whole thing
Speaker 1: too that I really had to navigate like on my
Speaker 1: own with her, but like both of our families were
Speaker 1: against it.
Speaker 3: You know and stuff like that. And even at the time,
Speaker 3: like both of your families were against you telling your
Speaker 3: son or his father family, and my family were against
Speaker 3: me being with a woman. Oh wow right, it was
Speaker 3: like if you have like a little girlfriend or whatever.
Speaker 1: But they were still trying to make me marry him,
Speaker 1: like they were still trying to like is not keeper
Speaker 1: on a stop?
Speaker 3: What? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the audacity the audacity religious religious Christian families.
Speaker 1: I had him at in a Christian school at the time,
Speaker 1: so that was really hard to navigate.
Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting how older parents.
Speaker 2: So my mom has always been accepting my sexuality, which
Speaker 2: I talked about the book, which was amazing. But there
Speaker 2: were so many things she said when I had a
Speaker 2: girlfriend that she didn't even realize were male centered.
Speaker 3: Did care? Loved her down so on date to get
Speaker 3: this baby right?
Speaker 1: Like they don't even they can't say my mother the
Speaker 1: same way. Well, I just was having such a hard
Speaker 1: time with you being gay because I always wanted grand
Speaker 1: kids like you.
Speaker 3: Was like you really separate, Like once you're with a woman,
Speaker 3: they like want ice clinking, you know, you need the
Speaker 3: cocktails downstairs.
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, because she's always working so
Speaker 2: I feel like, wouldn't it be great if we could
Speaker 2: just because we were in different cities.
Speaker 3: You guys are in the same city, and we just
Speaker 3: who are we thinking about a partner? My mom just really,
Speaker 3: my mom really believed and she told her in her
Speaker 3: own way in that moment that was supportive, yeah, because
Speaker 3: she gonna be yeah, I want oh yeah, the baby here.
Speaker 3: And so when we.
Speaker 2: Started having sex with a dude together and being in
Speaker 2: the throle, my mom was like, oh great, this is
Speaker 2: this is the alignment. Yeah, and then she literally said
Speaker 2: to me, this takes a lot of weight off you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not I'm not gonna lie. You were
Speaker 3: gonna have to pay for that guy. I'm surprised.
Speaker 4: My mom literally is a grandma by my lesbian sister,
Speaker 4: and so so so my my my sister currently co parents,
Speaker 4: uh or not.
Speaker 5: She's she's gay, lesbian, okay, and they raised this baby.
Speaker 4: And it's funny because her, her partner's parents family has
Speaker 4: the issues that they're together. But also I think on
Speaker 4: another level, her her partner's white, and so I think
Speaker 4: her family also has a problem the same thing. So
Speaker 4: it's crazy. It's crazy how how sometimes like yeah, she's
Speaker 4: but the family. It's interesting because I feel like she
Speaker 4: they have more of a problem with the fact that
Speaker 4: my sister and the baby are black and the.
Speaker 3: Fact that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like and it's crazy because me and my other
Speaker 4: sister we be taking dick and we don't want like
Speaker 4: we be like that might.
Speaker 5: Be your only one, you might be grandma only daughter,
Speaker 5: and we're.
Speaker 3: Like, what are the odds what?
Speaker 2: Me and my white friend played this game recently, so
Speaker 2: we've had a conversation like, hey, gay kid, what are
Speaker 2: we gonna do?
Speaker 3: How are we to raise it? How are we going
Speaker 3: to do this? How are we going to make sure
Speaker 3: we're great parents? He was like, what they like white women?
Speaker 1: What the Yeah, it's like you can do a lot
Speaker 1: to support your children and being yay, but the harm
Speaker 1: you bring yourself letting that motherfucker bring white.
Speaker 5: Wife, don't don't I have a home? I have a
Speaker 5: home right down then literally now.
Speaker 4: Literally to a white woman, and the fear of like, okay,
Speaker 4: well they know I'm dating girl. She's now public with
Speaker 4: this white woman, and she's like, that's the that's the problem.
Speaker 4: That's like, ay, I remember having a homeboy, and this
Speaker 4: is another thing. Even in queerness and stuff. It was
Speaker 4: like there was a part where he started dating trans
Speaker 4: women and he was like he already knew. He was like,
Speaker 4: they won't even let me bring a white woman home.
Speaker 4: I already know this is good, Like the way that
Speaker 4: there's literally.
Speaker 3: There's the interracial part of things and the.
Speaker 2: Queerness level of remember where you know, So my friend Brandon,
Speaker 2: we've had him on the show be Rich. Brandon told
Speaker 2: me at alex we were drunk at Soho house and
Speaker 2: there was a really attractive guy that walk by and
Speaker 2: he goes, bitch, I don't know what made you think.
Speaker 4: He's in his forties, said never, I have never, And
Speaker 4: I was like, white person, I've never been with a
Speaker 4: white person in my life.
Speaker 3: I would be so like not.
Speaker 2: Even a shame, but like the fact that someone you
Speaker 2: better think I'm gay before you think I f a
Speaker 2: white man, Like like, yeah.
Speaker 5: I've never been with a white person either. It's so weird.
Speaker 3: Well I'm lying. This guy did make me like eat
Speaker 3: this white girl's pussy. But it was fun. So made
Speaker 3: that made me. She was fun.
Speaker 4: I wanted a threesomes. She was a fun white no no, no,
Speaker 4: like yes, I think dirty blonde.
Speaker 3: Oh no, she wasn't even I I think I think this.
Speaker 3: I think this white girl was from Boston so white. No,
Speaker 3: let me tell y'all.
Speaker 1: I'll be feeling so bad for my mom because her kids,
Speaker 1: her daughter ended up queer, and then her son got
Speaker 1: with a white woman.
Speaker 3: And I'm just so grateful, Anna, I love you. She
Speaker 3: British and French culture she got. She's not American white,
Speaker 3: that's all that. I just aritage of white America. You
Speaker 3: know what's funny about this.
Speaker 4: My ex was British and I used to have to
Speaker 4: say my ex was British, and I have to be like,
Speaker 4: but he's black.
Speaker 3: You like, like, but he's he's black by Rachel Black,
Speaker 3: so like I would all like us.
Speaker 2: Now, as we're rapping this episode, before we get to
Speaker 2: last few questions to.
Speaker 5: Go around and say something nice about a white person,
Speaker 5: Have you ever woman?
Speaker 3: What we fun I'll start? Wait, let me talk about what?
Speaker 3: Why are Angelina je white woman? Would we fuel life?
Speaker 3: What silott? John Hanson got it for me? I know
Speaker 3: what crazy super.
Speaker 1: Love the other day and I got But it's only
Speaker 1: because she's always on the top of ship and her
Speaker 1: body is actually.
Speaker 3: Team and I went nineties Angelina jo and I want
Speaker 3: the nineties.
Speaker 1: Of this shit too, but honestly in its ripe age.
Speaker 1: You know, look at I'm giving you too much the
Speaker 1: old white woman already.
Speaker 3: First off, let me just okay, were rolling for this
Speaker 3: one to justify I'm trying to just make answer. She said,
Speaker 3: this is I just want to I had to answer
Speaker 3: on this. Why I would do Sandra Bullock is because
Speaker 3: she's a bad I feel your baby, I feel you.
Speaker 3: We just pay attention to her ready for that. It's
Speaker 3: a lot of years. Watch mister, watch your walk out.
Speaker 3: I'm with you on this one. Yeah, miss congeniality she is.
Speaker 3: It's like, I've never seen a white girl look like that.
Speaker 3: Oh so there's Jerry.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of naturalness.
Speaker 3: She doesn't look extra that cake. Let me make let
Speaker 3: me make you have been young before I say that.
Speaker 3: You know Arina carbon Yes, I was close. She's twenty six.
Speaker 3: I'll take it. Oh no, she to me, if you
Speaker 3: make it white, I want white white. Look at that.
Speaker 3: She looks like a fucking Barbie doll. And she'd be Robbie.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about Margo Robbie too. But Sabrina Carboner. People,
Speaker 3: you don't like Sabrina carbon Murcat Robbie. No, she does
Speaker 3: look like a ball Margot Robbie.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, Barbie's when she was pregnant too, she
Speaker 4: was looking good, Doctor Barbie.
Speaker 1: If I had the movie Barbie movie, the person who
Speaker 1: played by No, I was saying, Alex, who's yours?
Speaker 3: We know you got it already, you gotta she likes
Speaker 3: what I would go either Scarlet or who's the girl
Speaker 3: now with the big ass breath? Oh Sidney, yeah, wait
Speaker 3: no she it was hell, didn't she with the geens? Yeah?
Speaker 3: That was she? What she do my jeans? So she
Speaker 3: did this American a whole American ass. She was like
Speaker 3: some people's jeans are like transferred.
Speaker 4: They were trying to make it seem like it was jeans,
Speaker 4: but they were talking about g E N E yes,
Speaker 4: we know. And then she goess are passed down.
Speaker 3: It's like a break the American flag. Come up with wasxual?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, it's talking about the standard, the standard.
Speaker 4: You're beauty, Cody. It's very Cody. You know what's crazy.
Speaker 4: I think everyone has a lot problematic, but everyone has
Speaker 4: a price. I think there's people that would.
Speaker 2: Be problematic for the right dollar amount like for me,
Speaker 2: to me, I didn't think it was problematic, so we
Speaker 2: got to dig it. Like to me, it was because
Speaker 2: you're not about jeans, then you're in situating.
Speaker 1: She just levis just put out a Beyonce ad that
Speaker 1: says Beyonce has better genes, trying to like, oh, I.
Speaker 3: Did see that. I didn't see that. I did see that. Les.
Speaker 4: I do think that there's a price those people, especially
Speaker 4: white women, women like they don't have morals because like
Speaker 4: to me, doesn't Gwyneth Paltrow.
Speaker 5: Doing an astronomer ad after her husband it was money that.
Speaker 4: Made her do and it's just like it was genius.
Speaker 4: She called her husband or her ex husband said this
Speaker 4: is for the both.
Speaker 3: I'm honest. Wait, you didn't see you don't need the world?
Speaker 3: So you know what the CEO.
Speaker 4: That's the ex husband of Gwyneth Paltrow, bitch And they
Speaker 4: didn't used him.
Speaker 3: They didn't use Gwyneth Paltrow.
Speaker 2: Hey, I know a lot of you are looking at
Speaker 2: the company, what is it about?
Speaker 3: And then like great, it was great, But I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't actually think that's for the money.
Speaker 3: You don't think it's for the money. I think she's
Speaker 3: definitely not. She said, Babe, I'm gonna do this thing.
Speaker 3: It's gonna go in Apple's joint. Saving that ship is
Speaker 3: just funny. And we're gonna name their children Apple.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, that's for real. You know that.
Speaker 2: Podcast, but we talk about Tay's baby names, Alex look
Speaker 2: him up right now.
Speaker 3: I will tell you the latest baby is Aquahan.
Speaker 4: White people have the nerve to talk about black names,
Speaker 4: and they're naming their child Apple, Malibu Barbie.
Speaker 3: Like these are their children's names, like their real name?
Speaker 2: Who is this person's a podcast.
Speaker 3: Named Malibu Barbie, Malibou Barbie? What uhus? But I was
Speaker 3: like the name Barbie Aquaman, name Elvistas Aquaman is.
Speaker 2: That baby's first name Elvis Aquaman and Malibu Barbie.
Speaker 3: And malam Barbie is the name the whole thing.
Speaker 2: When you are rich and right, you can name your
Speaker 2: baby xcel r K well like Elon must did or
Speaker 2: you got. That's funny people, and also real ship. It
Speaker 2: makes me think, what whole type ship.
Speaker 3: Am I gonna do? Appropriate? No, no, no to me.
Speaker 4: White people's celebrities are only able to do that because
Speaker 4: they truly believe in nepotism, and so they don't feel
Speaker 4: like their children are.
Speaker 3: Ever gonna really have to work.
Speaker 4: They might have to be because I ain't gonna hold
Speaker 4: you I've had. I mean, clearly, I have to hire people.
Speaker 4: I got a resume, and the names that Aquaman. The
Speaker 4: way y'all be judging black names out here.
Speaker 3: Hr period, I'm not hiring someone named I'm not even.
Speaker 4: Calling because you serious, I'm gonna try to figure out
Speaker 4: why didn't give us a better.
Speaker 3: Name, because to me, I think people ain't a bad name.
Speaker 4: Actually, Malible's not bad, Barbie, if you go by your
Speaker 4: full name, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not Actually isn't that?
Speaker 4: But Aquaman is nuts aam is the same that baby's
Speaker 4: gonna go by Moses, and Moses is too old.
Speaker 2: But apparently she into like water, which I don't give a.
Speaker 3: More.
Speaker 5: Are you doing that to your child? To me, that
Speaker 5: should be a form of child abuse, you know how?
Speaker 3: No, Frianda loves traders. I saw this ship. She was
Speaker 3: telling me about it. She was like, she's so different.
Speaker 3: I see.
Speaker 4: I think that that's why I would judge you, like
Speaker 4: if your name is Aquaman, I'm I'm convinced that there's
Speaker 4: some turbulence in your childhood that you might come to
Speaker 4: me emotionally unstable.
Speaker 3: Well I don't have turbulence, that's why are you coming
Speaker 3: to me?
Speaker 5: But by the way, my name is Amanda, very simple, right,
Speaker 5: I grew up.
Speaker 4: I grew up getting team a man dump, So I
Speaker 4: only amagine.
Speaker 3: What do you think I got? Wait?
Speaker 1: An absolutely bro that is literally a mimennial. That is
Speaker 1: typical Amanda's baby.
Speaker 3: So dump ever, heary love when I get anything? A
Speaker 3: first on her?
Speaker 2: That was a whole y'all's almost baby names? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: for your kids?
Speaker 3: What did you not go with? So?
Speaker 1: Wait, why did I just come across that list? But
Speaker 1: I was looking at Maddox's uh science, his birth chart
Speaker 1: and said list.
Speaker 3: Was harder too because we named him two days after
Speaker 3: three baby y'all days later. So I was I had
Speaker 3: a homework and I had been calling him. You look
Speaker 3: like you had a bone verse. Okay, look not too much.
Speaker 4: I think that's what she's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Wanted a water water Okay, you tap in. I want
Speaker 3: to help it. I want to be a duel. Look
Speaker 3: at wait, you can have a baby with yours. I
Speaker 3: got all four.
Speaker 2: The thing is like your mag there's a lot so
Speaker 2: it's like they say, here's some history.
Speaker 1: Ye, here's some history. Did you know, Oh the only
Speaker 1: reason we lay on our backs to have birth at
Speaker 1: the hospital.
Speaker 2: It is because for the no, no, something appeasing to
Speaker 2: the man.
Speaker 3: Not a specific man.
Speaker 1: I think it was like a king or like a
Speaker 1: somebody that was running something. He was a perf and
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching women have babies, and because they would normally
Speaker 1: do it that way or standing up, he made them
Speaker 1: lay down.
Speaker 3: So he could watch.
Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up, so he could watch strangers wives
Speaker 1: have babies at random. And then it became a natural protocol.
Speaker 1: Look at you bring in history because because I was like, what,
Speaker 1: I have my baby at the hospital. Thankfully they sat
Speaker 1: me up because they you know, there are some things
Speaker 1: like they'll lay you back or like they'll let you
Speaker 1: get a little bit more comfort. Whereas when the time
Speaker 1: it was for her to have her baby, she did
Speaker 1: everything so holistically her baby, our baby. But when the
Speaker 1: time for her to have a baby she was carrying,
Speaker 1: she did everything so holistically.
Speaker 3: She did it at home.
Speaker 1: She practiced hypno birthing so she could like control, like
Speaker 1: do all this stuff that I it's crazy because they
Speaker 1: take you put.
Speaker 4: I mean I didn't even learn until like maybe five
Speaker 4: or six years ago that you should take a ship
Speaker 4: with your feet elevated.
Speaker 5: Like yes, like take a healthy ship.
Speaker 3: And you breathe. You need to breathe. You don't stand
Speaker 3: on the toilet. How much easier do you ship? How much?
Speaker 1: I mean not that I'm comparing shipping to put it
Speaker 1: out a baby, but I thought you put you doing
Speaker 1: the hypno bathing, that's what they're comparing. They tell you
Speaker 1: to breath down like you're doing that, you know, like
Speaker 1: and that's why you're not supposed to Like you're never
Speaker 1: supposed to do that. You're not supposed to hold your
Speaker 1: breath sometimes having a baby or you don't need that.
Speaker 1: Breathe through and it'll come out.
Speaker 4: That's the only time this is and it we have
Speaker 4: learned so much. But to me, having a hard try
Speaker 4: it a birthday troll. Like when I be having to
Speaker 4: push out a really hard ship like a baby, I
Speaker 4: could never have a baby like this.
Speaker 3: You got to even go through that?
Speaker 2: That is Oh no, that's so because I have five
Speaker 2: that I have to do a C section. Gonna say,
Speaker 2: but you know, I want to be a homebirth girl.
Speaker 3: So what am I gonna do? Look, I was a
Speaker 3: homebirth girl with out a midwife. She ain't make it. No,
Speaker 3: it's not that advance. So you caught the baby? It
Speaker 3: was you caught the baby, delivered our baby. I just
Speaker 3: called who else was that? By the time, her mama
Speaker 3: was in the back crying. My wife wasn't even didn't
Speaker 3: I held a baby? She was there. She probably got
Speaker 3: there fifteen minutes later. Wait because of the traffic. What
Speaker 3: the fuck did the midwife show up?
Speaker 2: Lake?
Speaker 1: I think what happened was that she missed She didn't
Speaker 1: understand my lyns urgency because my line was so calmed.
Speaker 1: I was baby because of hypno birthing baby, but it's
Speaker 1: a second birth, and so she was just anticipating that
Speaker 1: it was going to take a while. And my doula
Speaker 1: that I had was also a first time doula, and
Speaker 1: then I had did hypno birth thing on the sign,
Speaker 1: So I literally it was my friend.
Speaker 3: You're gonna discod did she's a hypno birtha? And I'm
Speaker 3: assuming you ended up what you ended up? What she
Speaker 3: ended up going through a program or like A Yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't have to pay for any If I would
Speaker 3: have called that program like this bitch. I didn't even
Speaker 3: make it all time for my baby. I would have
Speaker 3: called it been like she you know nothing, say yeah,
Speaker 3: just said yeah, and we can been connected until she birth.
Speaker 3: He say it on babies, be smarter when you look
Speaker 3: when you like, I've got a photo of him connected
Speaker 3: to the placenta.
Speaker 4: Still like the now, because you did all this, you're
Speaker 4: also you ate the placenta, didn't you? You put it
Speaker 4: into pills and stuff.
Speaker 3: I want to I did so.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about freezing it from smoothies and then pills.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's like, you're right, it's science, it's healthy. Yeah
Speaker 3: it is. Yeah you should Also, I don't want to
Speaker 3: be depressed. I'm so prone to be a little sad.
Speaker 3: But first off, yes it is. Yeah, helps the MOLTI
Speaker 3: depression everything. But girl, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: Mandy gonna be so sick me on this podcast when
Speaker 2: I'm pregnant, because anybody we have I'll be like, are
Speaker 2: you trying to get pregnant in two years?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Time, which is also why we be like damn, we
Speaker 2: need to go out now. But then every time we
Speaker 2: started having a really good time out, we'd be.
Speaker 3: Like three three more years. Bro we literally was out
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 5: We keep pushing it wild out.
Speaker 4: You say we're gonna make it to ten years and
Speaker 4: the bitches, we gonna send you all a real We're ending, but.
Speaker 3: Then we're like, huh, maybe we'll stay on Patreon. People
Speaker 3: do virtual me.
Speaker 2: I just really want to be able to if I've
Speaker 2: been doing a podcast about sex, health and wellness for
Speaker 2: half of my adult career, what the fuck am I
Speaker 2: doing getting pregnant and not sharing this with the people
Speaker 2: who have watched.
Speaker 3: Me on this journey.
Speaker 2: Likely to me, it's just like almost not like they're
Speaker 2: owed it, but I feel like I'm owed that connection
Speaker 2: with fans too.
Speaker 3: Bruh.
Speaker 2: Someone dies in my family. That sounds depressing, but like
Speaker 2: then me and someone else are gonna share grieving stuff
Speaker 2: and what do we do? Like there's always been a
Speaker 2: connecting like thing, and I'm sure you felt that too.
Speaker 2: When Mandy and I go on tour. The last tour
Speaker 2: we did, so many people are coming up to Mandy.
Speaker 4: About weight loss and it was just like, weight loss
Speaker 4: and cancer are my two connections with the audience.
Speaker 3: And it's intense, like like maybe make me crying.
Speaker 4: Shit, I'll be like, but those are my two connections
Speaker 4: with a lot of the listening people.
Speaker 2: For mine, it's having older parents, I would say, oh,
Speaker 2: and probably also them being just like super emotional and
Speaker 2: wanted to manifest and being kind of gay your parents,
Speaker 2: Are you being gay?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, I say kind of gay, because I'd just be
Speaker 2: like I'm getting over now and then I'm doing that.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people like feel I've
Speaker 2: just noticed I get so many DMS from women that
Speaker 2: are very confused about their sexuality and feeling like I.
Speaker 3: Won't judge them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, And so I think being flighty
Speaker 2: about what you're feeling is something you feel like.
Speaker 3: You can't really it's flightiness.
Speaker 2: You feel like you can't come to someone who you
Speaker 2: may know this lesbian, because they're gonna judge you. So
Speaker 2: when someone's by and been living in their bidenness out
Speaker 2: loud for a while, it feels like a safer space.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know why, yeah, but I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: so to me, the second I'm pregnant, all y'all hoes
Speaker 2: they be.
Speaker 4: Telling me what to do, what to eat shit, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say space too. That's why I fuck my friends
Speaker 4: like we upsex together and and they know it's the
Speaker 4: same place.
Speaker 3: I'd like to know.
Speaker 1: I'd like to know what it's like after you your
Speaker 1: friends and you guys just go back to being It's
Speaker 1: so crazy. It like litt it maintain sex though, or
Speaker 1: is it like a one off thing that just happened
Speaker 1: to happen or do you guys discuss it in advanced
Speaker 1: like do you want.
Speaker 3: To come over? Gas man? You know what's crazy? And
Speaker 3: normally just.
Speaker 4: And then like after it happens once, maybe it happens again,
Speaker 4: or like then those becomes.
Speaker 3: In between, is what I'm Yeah, how is it okay?
Speaker 2: So for me if I have sex with someone now
Speaker 2: we can't watch a movie anymore without no, no, without
Speaker 2: I don't know the boundary now, so my own girls
Speaker 2: come over. We've be kicking it on the couch. Now
Speaker 2: that we have sex, How we sit on this couch?
Speaker 2: Are we supposed to be doing it?
Speaker 3: No, we're supposed to be touching. I actually have a
Speaker 3: weird in my.
Speaker 4: Own head, like yeah, your head, your head is different
Speaker 4: than my head, you know, like when do we do it?
Speaker 4: I mean to me, to me, it doesn't change anything,
Speaker 4: Like we're able to still have fun, go out, eat drink.
Speaker 3: It's it's all the same stand up, you put your
Speaker 3: clothes back on. I really want to in high school.
Speaker 3: In high school it was me I'm learning, But.
Speaker 1: Listening to you say this, I'm just like, Okay, that
Speaker 1: sounds like that's a make that Me and too my
Speaker 1: girlfriend's had and we would do the ship after.
Speaker 3: School, go like have some fun and then literally it
Speaker 3: never disturbed our friendship. It never never.
Speaker 4: Disturbed, Like we don't even but we don't even think
Speaker 4: like we don't it's even something to where like after
Speaker 4: we have sex, then it might be like, oh I
Speaker 4: might be able to get her to join me in
Speaker 4: a nigga, Like it just becomes like giry you want
Speaker 4: to go on a trip with, Like it just becomes fun.
Speaker 4: But I think a lot of my friends just view
Speaker 4: sex as like a night out, like there's not we
Speaker 4: don't like. To me, like so emotional ties like the
Speaker 4: exchange of it fun.
Speaker 3: But it's not like emotional ties having to like it's
Speaker 3: not all that for you. So sex to me is fun.
Speaker 3: Sex to me is like we went bowling the other datute,
Speaker 3: So such a different Literally.
Speaker 4: Like the way I view sex is like something that
Speaker 4: brings us into this like you know, this this emotional
Speaker 4: state that now our whole dynamics have changed. Like it's
Speaker 4: why I believe that even in and having sex, And
Speaker 4: I talked about this in my twenties, casual sex, like
Speaker 4: you could have sex with a man and not mean anything.
Speaker 2: So here's where I think there's like are these friends,
Speaker 2: like Crystal is your best friend?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: But are these just friends that you just see one's
Speaker 2: in the blue, like can have a close connection or Crystal,
Speaker 2: you know, I never fucked Crystal, but she's not gay,
Speaker 2: like she don't like women. But all of my friends
Speaker 2: that like women, majority of them we've had sex.
Speaker 1: Damn, Like not uncomor like there's something interesting about being
Speaker 1: gay and single, right because in LA I think there's
Speaker 1: this underlying story like when you finally get in a relationship,
Speaker 1: your homies probably already like somebody like everybody.
Speaker 3: Like being.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, being single, being free, being open, and you
Speaker 1: sleeping with somebody that's not the weirdest.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think I didn't even realize
Speaker 4: it was like this thing until like my ex he
Speaker 4: said that if he meets a friend, he would like
Speaker 4: to know if we were intimate before now, And.
Speaker 3: I was like, bitch for what, Like I didn't understand
Speaker 3: that thing. But I think because like.
Speaker 5: Many of y'all, it would it would be, you know,
Speaker 5: it would feel like there would be in the room
Speaker 5: and not know.
Speaker 3: I feel like now I'm the foot, which is maybe
Speaker 3: that's what it was, but I'm but I also had.
Speaker 4: To do the explaining that, like they don't want to
Speaker 4: be with you, We're like they can still be over.
Speaker 4: They're not gonna get jealous of you, Like we don't
Speaker 4: have that dynamic.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, if I wasn't here, y'all could, and if
Speaker 1: y'all on a vacation, you also could maybe, And so.
Speaker 3: I told him that like there was there was one
Speaker 3: home girl.
Speaker 4: We were out and I texted him and I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm not I literally said, what's funny is I told
Speaker 4: him one night that I said, ooh, I want to
Speaker 4: a girl. I'm just in the And it's funny because
Speaker 4: I ended up sucking my friend and he was confused
Speaker 4: because he thought I was just gonna pick.
Speaker 3: Someone up from the club. I was like, I got
Speaker 3: a girl with me right now, why make it hard?
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, Like like and she's
Speaker 4: into girls, And we were vibing, and so we fucked
Speaker 4: that night.
Speaker 3: She made me squirret on my living room floor.
Speaker 4: It was great, and we haven't had sex again since then,
Speaker 4: but like we'll make out still.
Speaker 3: We like we like rub on each other, and.
Speaker 2: It's just are you making out in private spaces? We
Speaker 2: made out in the club, Okay, so seems to me
Speaker 2: that's different. Yeah, but it's like a night out you
Speaker 2: haven't and That's what I'm saying. But even the night
Speaker 2: out may lead to the bedroom.
Speaker 1: It's possible. And so for me, like, I don't know
Speaker 1: why I am just starting there. You guys aren't going
Speaker 1: You're not coming over for this intimate thing.
Speaker 3: No, Like there was a home girl that I ended
Speaker 3: up having sex with gay niggas well. Maybe it's maybe,
Speaker 3: Oh I say it all the time.
Speaker 1: We were just shout out to Matthew and I thought
Speaker 1: they was together.
Speaker 3: Matthew is one of.
Speaker 4: Our patrons, and he said that he really resonated with
Speaker 4: one of the chapters as a them presenting gay man.
Speaker 4: He had all this, and I was like, I didn't
Speaker 4: you know, when we talk about men being able to
Speaker 4: relate to certain chapters, I don't think I ever considered
Speaker 4: how a gay man would read our or see our
Speaker 4: stories and relate.
Speaker 3: And I said, you know what's crazy.
Speaker 4: I lived my life is a gay man, and I
Speaker 4: know I do. Like that's how I you know, it's
Speaker 4: literally just nails.
Speaker 6: Yeah, real, No, this is what you call y'all are
Speaker 6: very less y'all nails. Is that's crazy because I don't
Speaker 6: even use these hands for that.
Speaker 3: No, not even a little bit. Still okay, but not
Speaker 3: by are you guys? Toy ladies? No? No, I'm a sissy.
Speaker 3: That's my ship?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: That's my favorite? I don't I've never done it such
Speaker 3: a no. No girls on the hips, the thighs, baby,
Speaker 3: the wideness, the wrighter, wright or white. It's like coucie
Speaker 3: bumping is difficult.
Speaker 2: That is my favorite girl because like the last three
Speaker 2: soon we had with a lesbian so she literally said
Speaker 2: we were on the date.
Speaker 3: She was so funny.
Speaker 2: She was like, listen, like I funk about one nigger
Speaker 2: every five years, but this doesn't work for me. So
Speaker 2: when we she knew I was in a scissoring whether
Speaker 2: it be from the show where I said it and
Speaker 2: we finally.
Speaker 3: Started to fans.
Speaker 5: She was a fan, but how she know from the
Speaker 5: show Black and thirty.
Speaker 3: Four and like Leslie, she's on field. She if she
Speaker 3: knows she got she went like she's a fan. Bro.
Speaker 2: It was the third time we anyway, So my man
Speaker 2: started watching a scissor and he was like, Okay, I've
Speaker 2: watched you scissor other women.
Speaker 3: This was the first time where I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I get it now. And he's like, is it because
Speaker 3: it's because some other girls don't be coming they be
Speaker 3: faking it for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's like, maybe like the girls that you're
Speaker 2: fucking that don't He's I didn't even He's like, y'all
Speaker 2: weren't even on each other's pussy any exactly.
Speaker 3: Feels like you was coming from the diactly right.
Speaker 1: It's just that's what I was gonna say, Like, people
Speaker 1: love scissoring, but when I think about bumping cunt, you
Speaker 1: can lay flat.
Speaker 3: I don't need to do all that white ship. I
Speaker 3: need this to touch this, right, we just got to.
Speaker 3: You just have to hit emotion.
Speaker 4: And that's probably what you were actually doing by the
Speaker 4: time because real thing like, ain't nobody yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: the jack says it on the titt right, That's what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Baby, all I eat is friction.
Speaker 3: Baby. Yeah right, but I feel like like when girls
Speaker 3: they feel like it's weird. Oh no, I don't yeh.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that I understand that with.
Speaker 5: I always understand whatever people are into.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Away, let's tell me where
Speaker 3: that they can find you and you yeah.
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, yeah, you horrible one day to get real.
Speaker 3: Behind the paywalls.
Speaker 2: Since if you own a business, right, oh wait, tell
Speaker 2: us about the businesses, kids, men and all the things doing.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the whole run down.
Speaker 1: So you started off by saying that we don't do podcasts,
Speaker 1: but I do have a small podcast with my best friend.
Speaker 1: It's called Hella Good Company.
Speaker 3: Love It. We do a podcast.
Speaker 1: We also do event production all throughout LA for black
Speaker 1: queer women and it's trans inclusive. We are having our
Speaker 1: first event, which will have happened after this, our first
Speaker 1: international Pride event in Tuloom. We're very very excited. We
Speaker 1: cannot wait.
Speaker 3: And then we do a lot of scissoring there. I
Speaker 3: think that, you know, I think that there will be
Speaker 3: of the real kind.
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty we bought, we got out like
Speaker 1: the first Doug Earal event. We literally sold off.
Speaker 3: For a first event. We're really really excited. You are
Speaker 3: going to have to hold each other and be.
Speaker 1: Like when it's all, they're gonna they're gonna be like
Speaker 1: you need a third Okay, that's exactly but yes, that's
Speaker 1: what we do. And I also run in an interior
Speaker 1: design firm. That's my bread and butter design.
Speaker 3: It is the design. Yeah, and I married an artist
Speaker 3: who my turn. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was homeschooling for a while, but that should have stressed. Oh,
Speaker 1: I believe they're about to start school.
Speaker 3: It all gets get him out of here. I know
Speaker 3: it is. It's been a work in progress of getting there.
Speaker 1: But for a happy wife who's mentally stable, you know,
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna do. So I've always worked with kids.
Speaker 3: I'm an artist.
Speaker 1: Right now I'm working with foster kids, teaching them art
Speaker 1: and art therapy type of stuff.
Speaker 3: So I love that.
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