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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Third hour of Clay and Buck starts now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody, Thank you for being here with us, and

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Speaker 1: we got breaking news for you right off the top.

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Speaker 1: The Fed has raised interest brakes. This is something that

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Speaker 1: might come as a surprise to some. It seemed that

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Speaker 1: there was a pushback against this because of the banking issues.

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Speaker 1: But the headlines here are FED raises ran FED raises

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Speaker 1: rates amid banking turmoil by a quarter point. So it's

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to balance the inflation fight

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Speaker 1: with the well, weakness in the bank is structural weakness

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Speaker 1: within the banking industry, which is all tied to FED

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Speaker 1: policy and what they've been doing now stretching back for

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Speaker 1: over a decade. You know, Clay, there's a lot. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I would just note that even earlier today,

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Speaker 1: former Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd blank Fine was saying the

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Speaker 1: Fed shod not raise raids. Listen to this. Personally, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. The deleveraging effect of all this, the

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Speaker 1: less lending, the more conservatism, the accumulation by financial institutions

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Speaker 1: of capital that's highly deflationary, there's going to be less lending.

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Speaker 1: The effect of all that is at least is great,

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Speaker 1: probably greater than a fifty basis point raise at this point.

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Speaker 1: If I were a FED, I would pause and I'd say,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're doing that because financial conditions have been

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Speaker 1: substantially tightened by this. Two weeks ago, we didn't contemplate

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Speaker 1: the events that we're witnessing. Now this is a new factor.

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Speaker 1: It's highly deflationary and deleveraging. This is more than a raise.

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Speaker 1: Let's pause and how this works its way through the system.

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Speaker 1: But we're going to be ever vigilant. YadA YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll let your throws. He's like, yeah, you know, the

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Speaker 1: FED say a bunch of nonsense about it. It'll all

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Speaker 1: be fine. That's the former Goldman sax ceo. Guy's worth

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Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe more than that now.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Clay, he's talking about it being deflation Okay,

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Speaker 1: So he's worried about a FED raise, which has just happened.

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Speaker 1: He spoke obviously before the twenty five point twenty five

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Speaker 1: less lending. Right, this is where you have all these

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Speaker 1: forces that they think that they can control. You got

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Speaker 1: to bring down inflation because as we all know, this

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Speaker 1: just means the dollars in your bank account and everything

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Speaker 1: you're buying is getting getting more expensive. But now he's saying,

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Speaker 1: if you have less lending, you'll have deflation, lower consumer spending,

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Speaker 1: and less economic growth, including things like layoffs, salary reductions,

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Speaker 1: drop in demand. So it looks like the soft landing

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Speaker 1: scenario here for the economy. I don't think there is

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Speaker 1: a soft landing scenario. I think things are gonna get rough.

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Speaker 1: Here's an easy way to think about this, and I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of you out there have four oh

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Speaker 1: one k's. You might be retired living on fixed incomes.

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Speaker 1: If you had bought stock the day that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: walked into the White House, let's say you went and

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Speaker 1: bought the DAL Let's say you went and bought the NASDAC,

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Speaker 1: the S and P five hundred, you have lost money,

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Speaker 1: not even factoring in inflation. So if you just bought

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Speaker 1: on the day Joe Biden, I think it was January twentieth,

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Speaker 1: was inaugurated in twenty twenty one, and you are now

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Speaker 1: sitting you know, at twenty six months into the Biden administration,

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Speaker 1: you've lost money. That doesn't happen very often, Buck, And

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Speaker 1: now twenty twenty three is not looking great. As we

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Speaker 1: the likelihood is at the end of twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: you are still going to be negative. And that doesn't

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Speaker 1: even factor in the massive increase in inflation, which is

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's handling of the economy has been a disaster.

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Speaker 1: And to tie this in with the conversation that we

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Speaker 1: have been having about Trump versus DeSantis twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: Democrats have chosen their candidate. You watched Game of Thrones,

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Speaker 1: They have picked their combatant, right, they have put Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden into the center of the ring. I went to

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Speaker 1: the coliseum. We know who their gladiator is and it

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Speaker 1: his own armor. This is a flawed fighter. My concern

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Speaker 1: not even going to talk about anything he's done for

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Speaker 1: referendum on how did the incumbent president do? By all measures,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden has been a disaster two and a half

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Speaker 1: years into his tenure. But if he gets to run

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Speaker 1: able to make the case not only about what he's

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Speaker 1: The economy is going to play a major role, as

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Speaker 1: we all know, in the next election. It's interesting, though,

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Speaker 1: to see, based on the last election, there was this

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Speaker 1: perception that inflation wasn't really Joe Biden's fault, which I

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Speaker 1: not all his fault, but he's in charge and did

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Speaker 1: things to make a problem worse. And the only way

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Speaker 1: first one point nine trillion dollars of spending right when

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Speaker 1: totally excessive, even with what we had seen during COVID previously.

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Speaker 1: That was that was reckless. I mean, that was going

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Speaker 1: really above and beyond the stupidity meter. And yet we

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Speaker 1: doubt with the consequences of it economically, people saw the

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Speaker 1: worst inflation in forty years, but Joe Biden wasn't held

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Speaker 1: responsible for us. You always have to remember there's there's

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Speaker 1: right the reality of what the economy is and what

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Speaker 1: the electorate to that and their sense of who's responsible

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Speaker 1: for it, and that's not always the same thing. So

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Speaker 1: I try to remind people it is an absolutely true

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Speaker 1: statement that if the economy is very weak, even perhaps

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Speaker 1: even in a recession next year Joe Biden, that going

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Speaker 1: to affect the president's presidential election a lot. But is

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden going to be blamed for it? Or are

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Speaker 1: we gonna be told it's the Trump and blamed by

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Speaker 1: the electorate enough, right, or we're gonna be told it's

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Speaker 1: the Trump tax cuts and the fat cats are getting

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Speaker 1: rich and all the all the stuff. You always have

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Speaker 1: to remember he has a ten to one advantage in

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Speaker 1: you know, propaganda and media artillery pieces that he can

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Speaker 1: put on the battlefield just in sheer numbers. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're better. We're smarter and handsomer clay than those libs

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Speaker 1: Tucker and Hannity, and you know, we've got these these

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Speaker 1: getting better because of Biden, even though it's not good,

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Speaker 1: and it's really the Fed's fault slash Trump's fault, and

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be all these pivots. So I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: to say it's not enough. It wasn't enough in twenty

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Speaker 1: we can't just say, well, they're going to blow up

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Speaker 1: the economy and therefore Biden will be held and the

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Speaker 1: Democrats will be held responsible. No, they'll just lie there.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats are the kid that drops the platter full

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Speaker 1: was his fault. That's who they are. It's a good analogy,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I think that the argument has to

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Speaker 1: be this is a referendum on Joe Biden, and as

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Speaker 1: we play out through twenty twenty three, I would just

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Speaker 1: encourage everyone. I think the Santis tried to do this

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Speaker 1: in his interview with Piers Morgan. He said, I'm running

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Speaker 1: think Trump would win two. I think whoever wins the

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Speaker 1: Republican nomination will beat Biden. But it has to be

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Speaker 1: an attack on Biden, and we have to ensure that

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Speaker 1: this election is a referendum on the incumbent and not

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Speaker 1: a referendum on what happened in twenty twenty And my

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Speaker 1: concern with Trump is Trump makes it hard for the

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Speaker 1: for all of you to contemplate. Trump definitely motivates a

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Speaker 1: are Republicans, to come out and support him. How many

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Speaker 1: Democrats does he similarly motivate? And what does that look

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Speaker 1: such show up and vote Buck in twenty twenty according

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Speaker 1: to the tallies, roughly, how many of those people would

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Speaker 1: Ron De Santis in twenty twenty four, how many would

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Speaker 1: against Kamala Harris. Trump motivates turnout, He makes people care.

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Speaker 1: primetime viewership Buck because Trump isn't around anymore, and so

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Speaker 1: And I just want to keep hammering this home because

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Speaker 1: I think it's an incredible advantage. We know who the

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Speaker 1: If you think about what Democrats did in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: when you're in a playoffs scenario, both teams don't find

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Speaker 1: what will be different for Trump to beat Biden in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four That wasn't the case in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: that's true. Is that enough to get Trump over the line.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four is gonna be interesting, It's very true. Eight

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Speaker 1: Buck's got an audio clip that I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we can play any of that audio clip, but we will.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the bond, the hour, this subway and

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Speaker 1: really you heard it, Clay seeing it now, it's just

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Speaker 1: all curse words. But it just brings up why is

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Speaker 1: this life in this city? And I mean not just

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Speaker 1: only difference here would be the presidency has been different

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Speaker 1: up to this point. It's certainly true if you're running

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Speaker 1: to be a Republican senator, governor. I sit here and

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Speaker 1: talk all the time, Clay about the number of witch

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Speaker 1: hunt weaponized prosecutor cases against Republicans in the last ten years,

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Speaker 1: that you can rattle off off the top of your head. Right,

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Speaker 1: you can talk about Chris Christie with Bridge Gate. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, they said it was a mass murder event

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Speaker 1: on MSNBC. Do you remember this? They claimed. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if it was matt Au or it was one

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Speaker 1: of the Laurence O'Donnell. I think it was one of

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Speaker 1: them that because there may have been ambulances delayed by Bridgegate,

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Speaker 1: it could have been a multiple fatality event by the

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Speaker 1: traffic jam. I mean that was a real argument. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: bridge Gate, Chris Christie, nothing came of it. Scott Walker

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Speaker 1: and Wisconsin John Doe investigations, nothing came of it. Governor

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Speaker 1: Bob McDonald tried to throw him in prison for for

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Speaker 1: years and years. Supreme Court had had to overturn it.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump Russia collusion. Obviously, Rick Perry in Texas they

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Speaker 1: were trying to bring they were trying to bring some

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Speaker 1: federal I mean some felony charge against him for interfering

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Speaker 1: in a prosecutor's office because he didn't want some drunk

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Speaker 1: prosecutor who had a DUI still running his office. You

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Speaker 1: get on the list. They're all these Republicans that have

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Speaker 1: had prosecutors weaponized. I can't People probably shouted names, are

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Speaker 1: talking about Ted Stevens Older in the week. I can't

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Speaker 1: even remember all of them. What is the equivalent to

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Speaker 1: the other side, Clay Who Who are the Democrat politicians

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Speaker 1: who without cause, without basis, have been hounded by criminal investigations,

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Speaker 1: efforts to throw them or their family members or close

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Speaker 1: associates in prison for nothing. People might church, well the Clintons,

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Speaker 1: the Clintons are crooks, Okay, we all also the Clintons

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Speaker 1: never have legitimately faced any charges, right, so, I mean

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Speaker 1: they've been investigated through the through I just think in

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Speaker 1: addition to taking more and more talent off the field

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Speaker 1: for politics, it will become so commonplace the same way impeachment.

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Speaker 1: Remember back in the day, if you're old enough to remember,

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Speaker 1: like the fact that they considered impeachment for Richard Nixon

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Speaker 1: and everything else was such a transformative moment. I think

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Speaker 1: it was the first time since Andrew Johnson had been impeached.

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Speaker 1: And now I kind of feel like in the next

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Speaker 1: decade we'll probably have six or seven different impeachment trials

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Speaker 1: before all is said and done. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: and people right now are saying we should impeach Biden,

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Speaker 1: and you know how it's going to end. I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's such a standardized political process. Now you have

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Speaker 1: to presume that you're going to get charge of the

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Speaker 1: crime if you run. I would just say that the

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Speaker 1: maybe there's some historical perspective here that's also useful, which

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Speaker 1: is even if you go back to the Founding it

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Speaker 1: was rough Man. You know, we people talk about Madison

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Speaker 1: and Jefferson and Washington, and we think about these these

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Speaker 1: figures who were geniuses at the construction of government, and

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Speaker 1: they were just tattling on each other to various newspapers

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Speaker 1: and oh he's a monarchy to know he's having an affair,

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Speaker 1: and oh he's misusing funds all the time. All the time,

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Speaker 1: there was so much Hamilton as bad as you think

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Speaker 1: things are now, like he literally killed them. Yes, I mean,

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Speaker 1: as I said before the show, I think a bother

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Speaker 1: two ago, James Monroe stepped in to stop a duel

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Speaker 1: with Hamilton, and later Hamilton or what was with Aaron

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Speaker 1: burn now and forgetting and then later Aaron Burr ended

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Speaker 1: up shooting Alexander Hamilton's So these guys actually shot each other.

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Speaker 1: These are the Founding fathers. Like things were getting crazy

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Speaker 1: then too. So as much as we look to think

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Speaker 1: that we're in this period of oh, politics are more polarizing.

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Speaker 1: I mean to call somebody after the Revolutionary War, to

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Speaker 1: call somebody a monarchist, it was effectively to call them

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Speaker 1: a traitor and this was what they were, the Federalist,

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Speaker 1: the Antifellis Federalists. Anyway, I'm just thinking about it right now.

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Speaker 1: It's it's just amazing. We all think, Oh, they just

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Speaker 1: sat around with their quill pens and wrote the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: They were trying to stab each other in the eyes

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Speaker 1: with their quill pens. They were having a lot of

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Speaker 1: Pulse mask shooting like the Pulse night club by disarming

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Speaker 1: So this happened over This happened over the weekend. I'm

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Speaker 1: just seeing the report now. And they had a security

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Speaker 1: that's a good basis for a security guard saw this.

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Speaker 1: The guy was incoherent, he was wearing a devil mask

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Speaker 1: and he had the words kill and dark written on

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Speaker 1: to run into the strip club with the loaded handgun.

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Speaker 1: Now there may be there may be addition details. The

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Speaker 1: guy you know who knows, maybe had a beef with

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Speaker 1: Daily Mail is Averted another mass shooting. We can't I

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Speaker 1: don't think we can know that right now, but certainly

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Speaker 1: a guy with a devil mask running with a loaded

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Speaker 1: handgun through security at a strip club is something that

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Speaker 1: you would want to be addressed right away. And it

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Speaker 1: looks like this guy may have certainly stopped somebody from

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Speaker 1: getting shot, right that. That seems to be. That's a

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Speaker 1: reasonable implication that a guy who tries to run past

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Speaker 1: security with a loaded handgun and a mask on has

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Speaker 1: ill intent. I bring it up because um Clay, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the in the state of Florida, a lot of

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Speaker 1: would assume this is also true for people in Texas

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Speaker 1: and in Tennessee. There's an assumption that if you are

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Speaker 1: acting in good faith and defending yourself or others, not

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Speaker 1: only are you going to be treated fairly by the system.

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Speaker 1: You might even be praised by the system. You might

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Speaker 1: be thank you for averting you know, self defense. And

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Speaker 1: in a whole lot of cases, whatever it may be,

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Speaker 1: self defense in Red States, when it is lawful and reasonable,

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Speaker 1: is not only defended, it is praiseworthy. There is a

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Speaker 1: very widespread perception now that self defense under certain circumstances,

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Speaker 1: and depending on who the defendant or the assailant may be,

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Speaker 1: and the politics around this, the races of the individuals involved,

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Speaker 1: that self defense will not be treated especially if self

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Speaker 1: defense involving a firearm obviously brings in a lot of

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Speaker 1: politics right away, but will not be treated fairly. And

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Speaker 1: this brings you back to we have it up at

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Speaker 1: Clay and buck Dot and basically this MMA fighter security

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Speaker 1: guard guy in Tampa. You know, he's going home with

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Speaker 1: a with a high five and a stake and a

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Speaker 1: thank you for you know, probably saving some lives here.

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Speaker 1: He's not worried about getting you know, Oh, the DA

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Speaker 1: thinks it used excessive force by twisting the guy's arm

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Speaker 1: or something. You know that no one expects that to happen,

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Speaker 1: because it's Florida. If it we're in New York. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, might be a different situation in New York.

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Speaker 1: There's this video. It's up at clayinbuck dot com and

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Speaker 1: you have a black man who is in the worst

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Speaker 1: and most and by the way, if you go see it,

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Speaker 1: you know Clay saw it. It's it's tough to watch

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Speaker 1: because he's verbally abusing a kid in front of his parents,

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Speaker 1: and that really gets people's That really fires people up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it fires up parents and nonparents. It's just

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Speaker 1: there's something deeply grotesque and wrong and evil about threatening

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Speaker 1: a child, and threatening a child in front of their parents,

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Speaker 1: and the huge debate that has broken out. And I've

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Speaker 1: can see it. It's just it's tough to watch and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of curses. We can't play it on

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Speaker 1: the air. It's basically almost all curses from this guy.

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Speaker 1: But Clay all these people, you know, there were initially

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Speaker 1: a few folks who were weighing in on this online.

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Speaker 1: They're saying, you know, why didn't the dad get up

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Speaker 1: in this guy's face, why didn't you do something? And

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Speaker 1: the amount of people who said with that Democrat DA

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Speaker 1: it might be the dad and handcuffs. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is just theoretical. Remember the Delhi

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Speaker 1: guy in this case, came up and started trying to

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Speaker 1: beat this guy senseless behind the counter, and he defended

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Speaker 1: himself of a knight. They charged him with murder to

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Speaker 1: the bodega who defended himself and was initially charged with

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Speaker 1: then they ended up eventually letting him out of prison,

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Speaker 1: and I think they dropped the charges if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what what Brad? That's correct? What Brack? And we we

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Speaker 1: hit that, we hammered that on this show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, every aspect, which makes me wonder, buck,

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Speaker 1: what would happen if Mayor Eric Adams came out and said,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Trump has committed a crime based on

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Speaker 1: what evidence that I've seen. I don't think Alvin Bragg

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Speaker 1: should bring charges against him. I mean, he won't do

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Speaker 1: that for political reasons. I mean, but what what if

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Speaker 1: he's thinking on a broader scale, like trying to make

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Speaker 1: a play because he's already been elected mayor of New

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Speaker 1: York City. I'm just because the reason the you made

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Speaker 1: me think of it, because the reason this guy, the

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Speaker 1: Dominican guy who get lost finally had charges reduced against

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Speaker 1: him was, I really believe because the mayor spoke out

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Speaker 1: and said this is ridiculous. He had a right to

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Speaker 1: defend himself, and the mayor obviously is a former police

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Speaker 1: officer who would have experience in this situation. I'm just

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Speaker 1: tin of tossing that out there as a trial balloon.

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Speaker 1: What would happen if Eric Adams did that too, Alvin

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Speaker 1: Bragg's case would have disappear. Just kind of thought balloon

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Speaker 1: that second part here. As a parent, I watched this

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Speaker 1: video and this guy who is braiding there's a dad,

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Speaker 1: what appears to be a mom and a kid between

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Speaker 1: them and some of the most vile language you can

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Speaker 1: imagine on a subway, and so, like many parents, I

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Speaker 1: guy is crazy and he probably is armed. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: not with a gun, but it's probably with a knife,

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Speaker 1: and if I stand up and engage in an altercation

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Speaker 1: while until there's actual physical violence, like I understand it's

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Speaker 1: unacceptable to yell and scream at families, curses, slurs, all

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Speaker 1: those things that shouldn't happen regardless of your background. But

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Speaker 1: for me, until there was a moment where I felt

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Speaker 1: like physical violence was going to happen, I would try

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Speaker 1: to avoid accelerating that situation because I would think this

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Speaker 1: guy's going to have a weapon and he's going to

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Speaker 1: attack me and or my family. With it. Now. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a very good chance that the individual in

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Speaker 1: this video and you know, these kinds of it's a

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Speaker 1: verbal assault that he's committed. You're actually not allowed to say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna attack you,

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Speaker 1: or you know, make someone. You can't make someone incredibly

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Speaker 1: fear for their safety just because you feel like it.

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Speaker 1: There's assault and mattery. Battery would be the actual you know, punching, grabbing,

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Speaker 1: physically going after somebody. But this is far too common.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is something I've experienced many times in

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Speaker 1: free and protected to say whatever they want, to verbally

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Speaker 1: attack people, to threaten them, and often to yell racial

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Speaker 1: slurs at white people. This is what this is what

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Speaker 1: happens in the city. You know that you're you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna quote obviously, but the yell things racist

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Speaker 1: abuse at white people or whomever. And obviously this has

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Speaker 1: happened to Asians too. It's happened to Asians a lot

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Speaker 1: in New York City. And there was that whole Stop

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Speaker 1: Asian Hate campaign that all of a sudden, they stopped

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Speaker 1: the Stop Asian Hate campaign because they didn't like the

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Speaker 1: demographics of who was engaging in most of the assaults

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Speaker 1: against Asians. You remember this too, Yeah, just disappeared. So

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Speaker 1: we're just disappeared. And so you sit here and you say,

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Speaker 1: when people in a city feel like the system stands

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Speaker 1: with those who verbally threaten and menace parents with their

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Speaker 1: small child on the subway, there's something deeply wrong with

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Speaker 1: that system. Whether it's New York, Los Angeles, you know, Houston,

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Speaker 1: you name it, any well. I don't think this has

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Speaker 1: happened in Texas, but in an other you know, in

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Speaker 1: other states, and blue states in particular, Democrat rule means

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Speaker 1: if if criminals want to menace you, if lunatics want

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Speaker 1: to frighten you, you you have to deal with it because

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Speaker 1: if you get up in their face and you know,

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Speaker 1: you end up hurting them before they can hurt you,

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Speaker 1: or if there's an exchange of fists or worse, you're

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Speaker 1: probably going to prison because those are the politics involved.

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Speaker 1: That's true. And I also think the fact that this

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Speaker 1: occurred on a subway factors in because you can't go

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Speaker 1: anywhere right, you're effectively hemmed in. And it's just further evidence.

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Speaker 1: The last time I was there. What do we got

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Speaker 1: our producer Alis saying that this guy people have recognized him.

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Speaker 1: Now there are other videos where he just does this

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Speaker 1: at Asians, Hispanics and white people racist abuse and just

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Speaker 1: goes off on them over and over again. This is

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Speaker 1: what I hope they can figure out who this guy is.

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Speaker 1: But this is why the most recent time I was

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Speaker 1: getting on the subway. Never said that before. I've been

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Speaker 1: in New York a lot of times over the years,

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Speaker 1: and I think there are a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: there listening to us right now that have made the

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Speaker 1: same choice. And this is what happens when you allow

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Speaker 1: cities to become in many ways Lallas. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: can say everything from countless hours on the New York

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Speaker 1: City subway and then being a person who didn't want

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Speaker 1: to spend time on them anymore myself. Clay, it's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily that you're going to be physically assaulted, but the

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Speaker 1: chance of you having an ugly incident were some lunatic

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Speaker 1: the chance that you're going to be verbally assaulted by

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Speaker 1: somebody these days, walking around New York City is unfortunately

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Speaker 1: if you walk around enough and you're on enough subways,

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Speaker 1: and it's true in a lot of these cities. So

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Speaker 1: something has to change here, folks want to change gears

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Speaker 1: here and talk about Preborn for a moment. There are

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Speaker 1: the majority of the time she will choose life without

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Speaker 1: clay In Buck twenty four seven and subscribe today. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: you hanging out with us as we roll through the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the program. Finishing up here. A lot

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Speaker 1: of different people still wanting to weigh in. We'll take

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Speaker 1: a couple of your calls here as we close out

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Speaker 1: the program, but also want to have some fun four

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Speaker 1: day workweek talk. I don't know that's ever gonna happen, Buck,

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Speaker 1: but it is kind of interesting how every now and

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Speaker 1: then you hear this kind of sneaking up, this idea

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Speaker 1: of being able to get four days of work. Here's

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Speaker 1: a question for you what percentage of employees if you

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Speaker 1: told them you don't have to work if you get

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Speaker 1: your work all done by Thursday. Do you think could

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Speaker 1: get all their work done by Thursday if the reward

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Speaker 1: was you don't have to come in at all on Friday?

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Speaker 1: I think absolutely absolutely, Yep. I think a huge I

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Speaker 1: think people could definitely get it done. And I think

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Speaker 1: that if you told government employees, I would tell you

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Speaker 1: this right now. Yeah, there's no doubt if you told

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Speaker 1: govern employees that they Because there's something in the federal

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Speaker 1: government things called super flex or something like that. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like like a protein shake, but it was it

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Speaker 1: allowed people in the federal government service. I think they

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Speaker 1: had to get like manager approval. You could do like

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Speaker 1: a sixteen hour day. Yeah, and then that was considered

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Speaker 1: you know, a day of basically you had a day

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Speaker 1: in the bank and you could just not in the

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Speaker 1: next day, which I think is awesome. Yeah, flex work

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Speaker 1: I think would be tremendous and I think there's a

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Speaker 1: huge percentage of people that would be far more effective

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Speaker 1: if they took that opportunity. Let's dive in. Let's close

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Speaker 1: out with some calls. Scott in Utah, what do you think. So,

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Speaker 1: I want to get to the DeSantis quote unquote hitting

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Speaker 1: back story. But first of all, what everybody needs to

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Speaker 1: understand is there is no guarantee in my mind at

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Speaker 1: all that Biden is going to be a president. And

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Speaker 1: about a month or so ago, you guys were talking

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Speaker 1: about Biden versus Trump. If either one of those guys

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Speaker 1: drops off and they're running against a younger or vibrant person,

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Speaker 1: that could be an issue. Okay, yeah, So sorry when

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Speaker 1: you say you don't know that you believe Biden's going

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Speaker 1: to be the nominee, do you mean because of his

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Speaker 1: physical health and something happening to him, or do you

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Speaker 1: mean because Democrats decide he's not the guy. I think

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Speaker 1: it's both likely it's both, But I think already that's

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Speaker 1: a great point. There is just as many people out there,

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Speaker 1: if not outwardly saying it's that, are talking about it

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Fan he's obviously not the best candidate

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Speaker 1: we could have. So you think, can I just be clear,

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Speaker 1: you think that Biden's not actually going to be the

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Speaker 1: Democrat nominee running again? I can't imagine. I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: they run this guy who can't even get it campaign

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Speaker 1: get it, Scott, I can imagine that the first time.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would be stunned if he's not the nominee.

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Speaker 1: Now he's eighty years old, so eighty year olds can

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Speaker 1: have all sorts of significant health related issues in the

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Speaker 1: remainder of twenty three or into twenty four. That could

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Speaker 1: certainly happen, But I think barring. I mean, look, they

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Speaker 1: elected John Fetterman and he immediately checked himself into the

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Speaker 1: his tenure as a senator. So you don't think they

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Speaker 1: would just hide Joe Biden in some hospital somewhere, even

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Speaker 1: if he wasn't healthy enough to do the job. I

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Speaker 1: would just be stunned if he's not going to be

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Speaker 1: the pick you Vaughan in her Mosa Beach, Florida, Yvon,

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Speaker 1: what you got for us? Hey? Um, I have two things.

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Speaker 1: First off, Trump and De Santis would be the ticket.

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Speaker 1: Just for the record, that would be the ticket. And

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Speaker 1: I don't I love the Santist, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: that he is quite up for the job yet. And

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Speaker 1: you know, we as Republicans and Conservatives, we need to

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Speaker 1: do what the Democrats do, and that is walk in

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Speaker 1: lock step. And yes, our President Trump, he says things

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't say, But Doug Gonna do we have to

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Speaker 1: be so word sensitive. I mean the man, the man

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Speaker 1: did the job he and he knows more now than

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Speaker 1: he ever did about the people that are in office

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Speaker 1: now and that the Senators, the congressman, the dirty people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is the man. I'm telly, he is

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Speaker 1: the man. He didn't even take a paycheck when he

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Speaker 1: Look this is if you look at them. I just

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Speaker 1: sent the team a pole here. Thank you for calling

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Speaker 1: in that. Since even a pole Monmouth twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: forty one percent Trump twenty seven percent to Santists three percent,

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Speaker 1: Nicky Hilly. That's the top three. So it's Trump for

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Speaker 1: you de Santists. But Trump way ahead right now. So

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Speaker 1: there's that. There's that for sure. And the poles have

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Speaker 1: been moving, let's be fair, in the last six weeks

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Speaker 1: or so in Trump's direction. I mean, he has been

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Speaker 1: last couple of months gaining strength. Since the mid terms,

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Speaker 1: He's continued to grow and DeSantis has splipped back a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Now, there was a lot of positive momentum,

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Speaker 1: the Santis wins in November, very many positive stories. We'll

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Speaker 1: see if DeSantis ends up announcing how that changes, and

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Speaker 1: when they officially get in the ring together. What that,

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Speaker 1: Donnie Brook. It's gonna be quite a throwdown, and we're

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Speaker 1: honored to be able to talk to all of you

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Speaker 1: about it as it plays out over the next year.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be a lot of twist and turns. It will

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Speaker 1: be an exciting journey, and thank you for being with

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Speaker 1: us as we all go along.