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Speaker 3: They also to Time says Washington is now in chaos

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Speaker 3: go there. If you're planning a trip to DC. It's

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Speaker 3: in chaos. People running in the street screaming, what do

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 5: What do we do?

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Speaker 3: They're jumping out of windows, planes are crashing.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: The world of politics is um ended. Obsessives. There'll just

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Speaker 3: be another hack in the job who cares right. They'll

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Speaker 3: vote exactly the same way as they did before. And

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Speaker 3: like I said, he has a chance of actually coming

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Speaker 3: back into the job. They have to vote on actually

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Speaker 3: replacing himself. What that job?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: See everybody's screaming at you, a bunch of idiots. Well,

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Speaker 3: speaking of the world of politics, we now have a

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Speaker 3: story involving another Los Angeles City Council member. This is

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Speaker 3: John Lee from the Valley. John Lee was a top

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Speaker 3: staffer for Mitch Englander. Well, that job became available when

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Speaker 3: Mitch Englander got sentenced to prison for corruption. It apparently

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Speaker 3: Mitch Englander was a little close to the developers and

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Speaker 3: took some bribes, particularly a very exciting trip to Las Vegas. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that included some payoffs and casino chips and hookers and

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Speaker 3: a lot of booze. Now it's always John Lee was

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Speaker 3: on one of these trips in twenty seventeen and apparently

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Speaker 3: also got gifts, but he's never been charged in the case.

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Speaker 3: And what we have going on now is one of

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Speaker 3: those ethics investigations.

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Speaker 2: Well, John Lee was on englanders staff at the time.

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Speaker 2: He was at top staff, and I guess he was

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Speaker 2: making Las Vegas trips too. You know, these guys should

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Speaker 2: never go to Las Vegas and they should stop talking

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Speaker 2: to developers. They're going to end up in prison. It's

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Speaker 2: such a cliche.

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Speaker 3: Take the politician of Vegas and bribe them with hookers

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Speaker 3: and boom and casino chips. It works every time. All right,

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Speaker 3: this is puling on you. Blake Trolley has more detail

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Speaker 3: on the story.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, Well, these accusations really seemed to put Lee's

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Speaker 6: hand in the cookie jar that Englander has his hand

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Speaker 6: or had his hands in too recap.

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Speaker 5: Mitch Englander was sentenced to more than a year in prison.

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Speaker 6: The FEDS charged him with trying to cover up gifts

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Speaker 6: he received from a businessman on trips to Palm Springs

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Speaker 6: in Vegas in twenty seventeen. His efforts included writing back

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Speaker 6: checks to make it look like he was reimbursting some

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Speaker 6: of these expenses for the things he received, and directing

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Speaker 6: that business person to lie to investigators. During a trip

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Speaker 6: in Las Vegas, Englander accepted an envelope with ten grand

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Speaker 6: treated to an expensive bottle service at a nightclub, and

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Speaker 6: had a more than two thousand dollars dinner I should

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Speaker 6: say for the whole table. Prosecutors say he did try

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Speaker 6: to coordinate with the business person who supplied this rendezvous

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Speaker 6: on making statements and in the accusations made official last

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Speaker 6: night by the LA Ethics Commission. We're now hearing that

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Speaker 6: this trip to Las Vegas, where he received some of

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Speaker 6: these perks, was suggested by the business person to celebrate

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Speaker 6: John Lee, who announced he was resigning from Englander's office

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Speaker 6: he was chief of staff to work as a consultant.

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Speaker 6: Lee did acknowledge that he was on the trip a

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Speaker 6: few years ago, but said that he did not witness

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Speaker 6: anything illegal at all, which on any trip to Las

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Speaker 4: Tom.

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Speaker 2: So these ethics charges are from the same trip that

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Speaker 2: got Englander put in jail.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds that way.

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Speaker 6: The way the Ethics Commission laid this out is that

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Speaker 6: when that indictment came out against England or they began

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Speaker 6: the Ethics Commission has kind of laid this thing out.

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Speaker 6: And if you actually look at the two reports from

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Speaker 6: One of the things that they referenced, guys, is this

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Speaker 6: bottle service that they got at a nightclub. I did

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Speaker 6: ten grand. That was from the Ethics Commission. If you

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Speaker 6: read the federal report, it says that Mitch Englander was

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Speaker 6: So when you just do the math, you can just

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Speaker 6: are the exact same trick.

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Speaker 2: Why has it taken this Ethics Commission six years to

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Speaker 2: come up with to look into this when this whole

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So this is something I've been trying to

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Speaker 5: No word back.

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Speaker 6: I reached out to the LA City Controller's office on this.

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Speaker 6: They haven't you wanted to talk about or they haven't

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Speaker 6: tight lipped about this. I know about a month ago

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Speaker 6: I did an interview with the Ethics or with the

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Speaker 6: Commission was swatted down and one of the things that

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Speaker 6: they said they were worried about is the fact that

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Speaker 6: a lot of Ethics Commission investigations come right up to

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Speaker 6: the Statute of limitations. And one of the other questions

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Speaker 6: why was he not charged. I reached out today to

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Speaker 6: And one of his theories is that possibly John Lee

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Speaker 6: took some sort of plea deal when he spoke with prosecutors.

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Speaker 6: That is something that John Lee has talked about, is

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Speaker 6: that he cooperated with the FBI with their investigation.

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Speaker 5: So that again is just a theory, but it is

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Speaker 5: a theory that I'm hearing.

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Speaker 6: I want to break down, guys, the allegations against Lee

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Speaker 6: and what the Ethics Commission is saying he accepted. They

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Speaker 6: say everyone on this trip, including Lee, got a suite

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Speaker 6: that estimated the estimated cost of that suite was about

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Speaker 6: six hundred dollars for the two days they were there.

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Speaker 6: On top of that, Lee's accused of getting one grand

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Speaker 6: in chips. Investigators say Lee attended that same high end

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Speaker 6: dinner that we heard about Mitch Englander attending that cost

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Speaker 6: it twenty four hundred bucks. His meal was estimated to

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Speaker 6: cost forty four hundred and thirty one dollars. They say

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Speaker 6: from there, they took a limo ride from that dinner

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Speaker 6: to a nightclub. This is that bottle service, that thirty

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Speaker 6: guys about twenty four grand from the business person, ten

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Speaker 6: grand from the developer. And ethics commissioners say the group

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Speaker 6: was sharing the drinks with female patrons, so they put

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Speaker 6: that little detail there, which I thought was, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's what's that's the whole purpose, right, You have

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Speaker 2: these and you you want to get them drunk.

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Speaker 3: The time says the per person value of all the

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Speaker 3: bottle service estidated be five six hundred dollars per person. Hey,

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Speaker 3: can I ask something.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna some high end b I'm gonna sound terribly

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Speaker 2: out of it. What is the value of thirty four

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Speaker 3: Eric probably knows this. What was the question? Bottle service?

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Speaker 3: What thirty four thousand dollars? What's the value in that?

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Speaker 1: At least probably five bottles of champagne, a couple bottles

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Speaker 1: of vodka, maybe a couple bottles at tequila.

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Speaker 3: The drinks are coming, I know, but it's extremely expensive.

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Speaker 6: I'm hearing a five hundred dollars at most day to

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Speaker 6: Costco and some backyard drinking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. I just don't know how uh so?

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Speaker 3: I mean, has John Lee explained why he took this trip?

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Speaker 3: Obviously his tief of staff for englander, but he says

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Speaker 3: he had no idea that this was a bride going

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Speaker 6: Huh so John Lee's response to these allegations against him,

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Speaker 6: He's saying investigators are wasting critical taxpayer dollars to investigate

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Speaker 6: a dinner he does not remember, and that was because

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Speaker 6: they wrapped up. They wrapped up some dinners he went

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Speaker 6: to in twenty sixteen that were less serious. I believe

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Speaker 6: he was referencing that. He says the Commission has drastically

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Speaker 6: inflated the amount of food and drinks he consumed during

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Speaker 6: the Vegas trip in which he's took in his last

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Speaker 6: eleven days as a council staffer, And he says the

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Speaker 6: Commission knows he's never been the target of any federal investigator.

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Speaker 3: I got to stop you a second. This guy is

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Speaker 3: claiming he doesn't remember the dinner which led to his

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Speaker 3: of escorts and he got thirty four thousand dollars worth

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Speaker 3: his staff said he lost it back around and.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't remember it. It's as if it never happened. Ah,

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Speaker 2: you drink, guys.

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Speaker 1: If you drink thirty four thousand dollars worth of booze,

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 6: I try to stay in denial about what I eat

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Speaker 3: So to be clear, Blake, this is just an investigation

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Speaker 3: to not reporting these gifts.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so yeah, and so one thing I want to

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Speaker 6: say is that these are just accusations, guys. And the

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Speaker 6: way that the Ethics Board works, the LA Ethics Board works,

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Speaker 6: is the investigators are now going to turn this over

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Speaker 6: to the panel, and the panel's going to decide whether

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Speaker 6: or not they think John Lee actually did anything wrong.

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Speaker 6: So weirdly, the investigators, they come up with these allegations,

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Speaker 6: then they actually pass those up to the Ethics Board,

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Speaker 6: which is a five member board but currently only has

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Speaker 6: three members. As you remember, just last month, the city

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Speaker 6: controller's potential member was swatted down by the City council.

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Speaker 6: So right now it's a three member board. Presumably there's

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Speaker 6: a meeting this month that's going to be deciding whether

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Speaker 6: what kind of punishment should be levied against him, and mostly,

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Speaker 6: if not entirely, that's going to be a financial penalty.

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Speaker 3: There's no charge that he provided some service to the developers,

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Speaker 3: to the developers for the money, that's not not a

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Speaker 3: Lee no, yeah, yeah, exactly. So somebody he was just

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Speaker 3: sitting at the table there, Well, that's that seems to

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Speaker 3: be what the That seems to be what the allegations

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Speaker 3: point to in this case, right, and so the chargers

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Speaker 3: are he just didn't report all the good he seems getting.

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Speaker 3: These are just very nice people who were hosting his boss,

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Speaker 3: Mitch England or and they invited him along for the fright,

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Speaker 3: just almost very nice, generous, have very low cut, short dresses,

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Speaker 3: bottle service. All right, Blake, thank you very much for

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Speaker 3: that report. That's right, right, that's worth going to prison for.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 3: That's Blake Trolley Cafi News another City council member. It's

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Speaker 3: just an ethics investigation. I think it was a fed

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Speaker 3: case against England or wasn't a federal case. I think

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Speaker 3: they never charged Lee, so either they didn't have the

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Speaker 3: I don't know how that wouldn't be public though, I

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Speaker 8: Ryan Clint Broomer, the Ellie County Sheriff's deputy that was killed,

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Speaker 9: The death penalty to begin with has very little finality.

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Speaker 4: You cannot fix that. And we have seen wrongful convictions.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, this is always exaggerated. Great, all right,

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Speaker 3: let's stop it there. This is what we're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: From this other side of people on the criminal justice system.

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Speaker 3: They think that there's so much wrong with our criminal justices,

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Speaker 3: so many wrongful convictions. There's so many people in prison

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Speaker 3: who are innocent. Get out of here. It's not true.

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Speaker 3: It's not You even believe that people arrested are probably.

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Speaker 2: Guilty, and they are, and they are nearly all the

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Speaker 2: time there is. It's extremely rare that someone who's arrested

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Speaker 2: and goes as far as getting convicted is innocent. You

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Speaker 2: don't hear, well, every once in a great while you

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Speaker 2: hear a story like that. You know, maybe maybe once

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Speaker 2: a year out of the hundreds of thousands of millions

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Speaker 2: of prisoners we have in this country, you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: once a year you hear about a case.

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Speaker 3: All right, now this clip, we're gonna move on to

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Speaker 3: the next clip. Eric cut five. This is a simple

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Speaker 3: question about just how safe we are in La County.

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Speaker 8: If you had to real succinctly state the case for

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Speaker 8: your reelection, what is it?

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Speaker 4: I think you know.

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Speaker 9: We are showing that the reforms that we put in

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Speaker 9: place are working.

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Speaker 4: Crime is coming down and will complt to go down.

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Speaker 9: We're working with all the other partners to make sure

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Speaker 9: that we get to a twenty first century type of

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Speaker 9: approach to or work what we are able to deal

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Speaker 9: with mental health appropriately, where we hold people accountable that

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Speaker 9: need to be held accountable and people that need to

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Speaker 9: be giving a second chance are giving an opportunity.

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Speaker 4: And what we're doing is showing that that can be done.

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Speaker 3: And LA is safer with you in charge.

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Speaker 9: I think LA is safer today, that has been in

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Speaker 9: a very long time, and I believe that it will

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Speaker 9: be even more so as God.

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Speaker 3: Do you believe he said that? Click that out. I

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Speaker 3: want to say that l every day, if the Nash

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Speaker 3: and Grabs police chases all sorts of crimes, right, we're safe.

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Speaker 3: You got that outday.

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Speaker 8: It's safer with you in charge.

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Speaker 9: I think LA is safer today, that has been in

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Speaker 9: a very long time, and I believe that even more

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Speaker 9: so as time goes on.

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Speaker 3: It nobody feels that way. Literally, nobody feels safer than

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Speaker 3: in a long time. In fact, flat out, most people

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Speaker 3: I talk to feel unsafe. They never know when a

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Speaker 3: vagrant is going to attack them and stab them or

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Speaker 3: punch them. They never know what a smash and grab

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Speaker 3: is gonna happen in the store that they walked in.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if they're going into a seven eleven,

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Speaker 3: a Macy's, a Gucci. Every store feels at risk among

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Speaker 3: everybody I know. Number one boy, he is such a liar,

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Speaker 3: and he knows it's not safe, and he knows everybody

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Speaker 3: feels unsafe in this city, in this county. He knows this,

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Speaker 3: and he says it anyway, Mick the God, What a

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Speaker 3: pathological liar, What a sick This may be coming from

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Speaker 3: the John and Kenn wishful thinking department, but there is

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Speaker 3: some rumblings that he may not survive the primary next

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Speaker 3: year and not be in the top two when people

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Speaker 3: vote in market he is approval rating is twenty seven percent.

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Speaker 3: Because think about this, the March primary, the people that

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Speaker 3: vote are probably more in tune with what's going on,

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Speaker 3: yeah than the November vote, so he's got to be

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Speaker 3: in the top two, and it's like seven people running

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Speaker 3: something like that, And there's there's not a partisan't split

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Speaker 3: here because most of the people on the West Side

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Speaker 3: that I know are nominally Democratic Democrats, and most of

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Speaker 3: the deputy das that are running against him are are

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Speaker 3: Democrats as well, So it's not you don't have a

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Speaker 3: situation where people are just going to vote for parties

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Speaker 3: and reasons no matter what they're voting, because they're scared

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Speaker 3: out of their minds every time they go out in

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Speaker 3: a public area. They are. Boy, we got more coming up.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty live everywhere. It's the

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio had to start counting the days, John and Ken KFI.

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Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 7: AM six forty.

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Speaker 3: Well, we want you to know that there are das

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Speaker 3: around the nation that are as bad, maybe even worse

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Speaker 3: than George Gascone and anger is building At a place

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Speaker 3: called Hennepin County in Minnesota. They have a district attorney

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Speaker 3: by the name of Mary Moriarity fifty nine years old,

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Speaker 3: who of course used to be a defense attorney. But

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Speaker 3: it's another one of these reformers that has taken over

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Speaker 3: the prosecution side in that county and now she is

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Speaker 3: angering people. She's got policies that allow accused rapists, pedophiles,

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Speaker 3: and killers to stay free. Look at that. See that's

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Speaker 3: what I've been saying. They're gonna go for it all. Wow,

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Speaker 3: that's the final frontier killers, rapists, and pedophiles. She is

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Speaker 3: seeking probation for one of the teens involved in the

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen carjacking that killed a man by the name

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Speaker 3: of Stephen Marky killed him. She's seeking freedom because he

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Speaker 3: was seventy did you do It's like the gasconn thing right,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well they're under rat but freedom. Wow, like probation,

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Speaker 3: that's all she wants. Probation, probation. But if you kill again,

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Speaker 3: we might put you in jail for a month. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna be watching you make sure you don't kill a

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Speaker 3: second time this week. Oh my, but that that is

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Speaker 3: a that is a real crazy person, you know. It's

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Speaker 3: so bad.

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Speaker 2: Uh that the the Attorney General, Keith Ellison, and he's

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Speaker 2: another George Soros guy.

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Speaker 3: He used to be in Congress. Yeah yeah, he's he's

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Speaker 3: way left wing and uh, even he finds this too much. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's he's she Uh. He called Moriarty's approach in another

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Speaker 3: case disproportionate to the seriousness of the crime. Uh. That's

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Speaker 3: a calm way of putting it. Yeah, and and and uh,

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Speaker 3: I guess it's I guess it's the same case car jacking. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because there were there were multiple people. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: multiple people. Well, there were two guys involved in the

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Speaker 2: kar Jack Jr.

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Speaker 3: Jackins. It's the same case. The Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz

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Speaker 3: reassigned the case against the murderers of Zariah McKeever to

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Speaker 3: the Attorney General, Keith Ellison, who's backed by George Soros,

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Speaker 3: and he said that what mori already did in the

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Speaker 3: McKiever case disproportionate to the seriousness of the crime. So

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Speaker 3: you have the king. Her first week in office, she

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Speaker 3: dropped the charges against the thirty five year old man

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Speaker 3: accoust of raping a teen girl, citing attorney misconduct. Well,

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Speaker 3: as she did that in the first week, she's unapologetic.

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Speaker 3: In one of these stories, she's saying, this is what

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Speaker 3: I was elected to do to change the criminal justice system.

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Speaker 3: Here's a case fifteen year old girl sexually assaulted by

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Speaker 3: a relative for three years. The prosecutor had to remove

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Speaker 3: herself from the case because because this new DA was

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Speaker 3: pushing her to seek probation instead of prison. Three years

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Speaker 3: of sexual assaults, three years, this lady is in. Apparently

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Speaker 3: there was another guy who was charged with dealing fatal

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Speaker 3: dose dealing fatal dose as a fentanyl. He already had

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Speaker 3: a long criminal record. Again, she wants to go light

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Speaker 3: on him too. She says, she's making the case that

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Speaker 3: we don't want prison, and this is what we told you.

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Speaker 3: They don't want prison, doesn't matter what the crime is.

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Speaker 3: Gascon has said famously that he thinks fifteen years there's

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Speaker 3: enough time to serve no matter what you've done, including yeah,

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Speaker 3: murder and murders.

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Speaker 2: These are total anarchists. They want to completely destroy the

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Speaker 2: justice system, jail's prisons, the whole thing. No matter what

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Speaker 2: you do, you don't go to a jail, even if

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Speaker 2: you kill people, even if you rate people, even if

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Speaker 2: you sexually assault underage teenagers or little kids. So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is it, this is this is And then she goes, well, wait,

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Speaker 2: this is what I campaigned on. Really, Yeah, here's a dealer.

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Speaker 2: The dealer's name is Jesse Leezau and he dealt pain

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Speaker 2: pills to a twenty five year old girl who died

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. He was charged with third degree murder.

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Speaker 2: Could have gotten twenty five years. Instead, prosecutors went with

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Speaker 2: probation and maybe two hundred days in jail. At the

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Speaker 2: plea hearing, he admitted he knew the pills had fent

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Speaker 2: on him, but he didn't tell the poor girl.

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Speaker 3: But this is real. This is really cruel stuff too.

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Speaker 3: It's knowingly gave fentonel to kill somebody three years, raping

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Speaker 3: your fifteen year old family member. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: this is like a sick religion. This is like a

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Speaker 3: religious cult. This is not right. There went to debate.

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Speaker 3: There were two carjacking cases that I have mentioned. Was

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Speaker 3: Stephen Marky who was shot to day by two teenagers.

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Speaker 3: One of them got twenty two years in prison, the

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Speaker 3: other one though last minute probation. That's it. And the

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Speaker 3: family is so upset. They were asking the state attorney

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Speaker 3: general to take over the case, but he declined. But

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Speaker 3: he's right. There was another carjacking story in there too,

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Speaker 3: ZORIAH McKeever right, And he was killed by two teen brothers.

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Speaker 3: Hired by her ex boyfriend. They wanted to try both

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Speaker 3: the boys as adults, but that the prosecutors did, but

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Speaker 3: they were offered probationary deals. Nice, and that's what got

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Speaker 3: This is a virus, Yes, it really is. This is

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Speaker 3: these das. Wow, they have to be removed. You can't,

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Speaker 3: you can't talk to them. They're public defenders who've taken

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Speaker 3: over his prosecutors, which means him. Yeah, well I sympathize

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Speaker 3: with the criminal. No prison time. I already got more.

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Speaker 3: They taught this this is a concept. Oh and Gascone

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Speaker 3: always likes to say, oh, well, former police officer, so

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Speaker 3: I know what it's like you to go to the funerals. Well,

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Speaker 3: get out of here. Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's got to shut him down next time he spews

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Speaker 2: that crap.

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Speaker 3: All right, we got more coming up. Johnny Ken KFI

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