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Speaker 1: what a fantastic, perfect intro to the show. Perfect. We

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Speaker 1: up Antonio mcdice. Yeah, I'm like, I like that pick on, Mark,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show Man. How you doing. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for having me on. A dude. For

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Speaker 1: anybody who's never watched Prime Antonio mcdice before you had

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Speaker 1: the knee injuries, go do it. He was Unreal in

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Speaker 1: any anything basketball, I'm I'm there, and you seem like

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Speaker 1: So you're a fan through the through the tape? Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: had against him. I've never seen someone that wasn't even

427
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Speaker 1: a step back that was like a reverse long jump

428
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: to be able to create enough space between him and

429
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: when Ba Yama to get that shot up. But I

430
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: was like, and well, if we saw a scoot figure

431
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: it out, He's like, okay, I got I got blocked once.

432
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: I really need to make sure, like this is something else.

433
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: And I think, like, to your point, that is what's

434
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: really interesting. And yeah, I think for sure the idea

435
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: of like this guy is going to be bigger than

436
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: X established player is a little too much. Think What

437
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: is undeniable, though, is like watching him and the excitement

438
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: he generates because anyone can see just like the potential

439
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: there and how again, how unlike anything it is we've

440
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: ever seen exactly too, because like I think one of

441
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: the things because I I mean, I do like a

442
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: ton of Draft and Scott and stuff in the background.

443
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: Like that's more of my basis before getting into covering

444
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: the NBA. And uh, I think what's so interesting with

445
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: him is so often you'll see a player get talked

446
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: about like they're shooting potential and flashes like you'll see

447
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: like for for example, this is not at the slanderd

448
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: to do, but like Walker Castler played for Auburn, I

449
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: think you shot like thirty threes this season. Um, he

450
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: had some moments in high school where he was like

451
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: a decent shooter and he's gonna play for the Jazz

452
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: was a rookie this coming year and like kind of

453
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: like the projection for him is like, well, if he

454
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: can become a floor space for like that's really interesting.

455
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: You don't see guys who are seven ft three who

456
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: are a taking trail three's be taking threes off movement,

457
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: see taking wacky pull ups that are going in and

458
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 1: that's with like the footwork is phenomenal, the mechanics are

459
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: really good. Like obviously you know when you're eighteen years old,

460
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: you have to work on consistency and stuff, and I

461
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: think that's gonna come more and more with him. But

462
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: where he's at right now with like how at least

463
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: point is like I mean, we saw that just in

464
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: the first game, what he was able to do at

465
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: seven of eleven from three, just taking everything aggressively with

466
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 1: no hesitation, that kind of stuff, Like that's the kind

467
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: of shooting that matters because I think you can see

468
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: and I don't mean he keep bring up the Lakers,

469
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: but like you can watch, Like I mean, who's like

470
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: a good example like um Or even if we just

471
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: take like mo Herkless when he was in with the Clippers,

472
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: um like he shot I think he shot like thirty

473
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: five or thirty six percent from three this season that

474
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: they traded him for Marcus Morrison. Like yeah, he's spacing

475
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: the floor, but he's not really good at attacking close outs.

476
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: Defenses aren't giving it to him. Victor is so good

477
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: at his size without having any hesitation, He's capable of

478
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: taking people off the dribble Like that's insane, man, Like

479
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: I just like there are not guys who have done

480
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: that before. So it's like I don't know how to

481
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: project that. I don't how to view it. I know

482
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: how to like kind of rationalize and things in my mind,

483
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's pretty wild just to watch that playout.

484
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: And like, I mean, granted that was those are two

485
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: of the best games he's ever had as a prospect.

486
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: He has them back to back in the biggest showing possible.

487
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: Like whenever I talk to people who are you know,

488
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: around his camp or in his camp, um, the stuff

489
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: that you just hear about his personality and how he

490
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: approaches the game, like very much came to those games

491
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: like I'm here to prove that I'm the number one prospect.

492
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: Like he was not just coming there to play the game,

493
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: like he was there because he knew, like this is

494
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: an opportunity to really take the reins and show who

495
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: I am. And like he very clearly heard the talks

496
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: about him only having four rebounds in the first game,

497
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: and he came out and made sure that was different

498
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: in the second game. Like he's he's such an interesting player,

499
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: and it's wild that he's got the physical presence and

500
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: skill to be like, Okay, y'all want rebounds, It's okay

501
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: the next night, but the speed at which he's in proving,

502
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: like you said, like he's putting things together from month

503
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: to month that I guess that's what you would look for.

504
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: But it also feels like it's like machine learning. Like

505
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: I always use the analogy for Lebron that like he

506
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: is like a basketball computer that always makes the right

507
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: pass and right decision on the court, and like there's

508
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: just no accounting for how much that adds to your team.

509
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: And I think when he first started in the league,

510
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: people like, why would you pass up the shot at

511
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: the end. You're supposed to be like Jordan's you know,

512
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be playing hero ball, And it's like,

513
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: but that having that constantly there throughout, Like he also

514
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: reminds me of a computer in the sense of like

515
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: how fast his game is just like picking up things

516
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: like machine learning based on like what what he's seeing

517
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: and what he's working on. Right, it's like every game

518
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 1: you feed the machine learning algorithm, it's like, okay, okay,

519
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: I've leveled up another game. Now it's like, oh okay,

520
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: you're doing that. And it's also overshadowing Scoot which there

521
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: there is another player coming up in this draft who's

522
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna play with Ignite in the G League. Scooj Underson,

523
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: who would be a number one pick that people would

524
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: be salvating over in any other year. I mean, now

525
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: he'll just be a number two pick that everyone salvator.

526
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: But six three from Maryetta Georgia passed on offers to

527
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: play for Auburn, and Georgia signed with the NBA G League.

528
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: And he looked awesome to He looked really good and

529
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: looked like you said, like he's he's pissed that he's

530
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: having to go against somebody who is getting all this

531
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: attention despite the fact that he's balling out, which is

532
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: wild because, like we're saying, when you watch the highlights,

533
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: were like, man, school just looks like a fantastic basketball

534
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: player that you'd be excited to have in the league. Like, Okay,

535
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: this kid's got it. And then you get when Bin

536
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: Yama and then it's like it's like that meme of

537
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: like the like the mother in the pool with the

538
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: one child like about to jump in while the other

539
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: kid is drowning, and like everyone it's like wemby and

540
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: like when's that to jump in? Meanwhile he got scooted

541
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: in the water black I'm over here too, and yeah,

542
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: like it it is kind of. I do feel a

543
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: little bit bad for him because I was, like, man,

544
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: those his his highlights look fantastic. But then I've also

545
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: never seen someone with the size of Wemby do that,

546
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, just for the visuals alone, Like Wemby, Yeah,

547
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts on Scool Scool? Scool was awesome?

548
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: I mean, he was somebody I really liked watching the

549
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: league with within Night last year. UM. And even then,

550
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: like he's clearly taking a step watching those two games,

551
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: Like his ball handling is somehow even tighter, Like he

552
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: is one of the best dribblers I've ever seen, UM

553
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: in terms of his ability to like, like, there are

554
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: guys like I think watching Benedict Mathron is always a

555
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: really interesting example for pointing things out on scouting because

556
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: like he's super athletic. You saw like I mean, he

557
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: had tons of crazy dunks in Arizona. But but then

558
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: you can see, Okay, when he's not put in a

559
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: straight line and when he's asked to handle in more

560
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: complex situations, like he really struggles to do it. He

561
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: doesn't quite have the handle to compliment some of the

562
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: best down her downhill burst set of prospect can come

563
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: in with what Scoot has like everything, Like he's out

564
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: there sprinting without having to even think about dribbling the

565
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: basketball like he had to play. I'm trying to remember

566
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: who was guarding him. I think it might Adventure Mott Waters.

567
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: But um, he literally just like did like an around

568
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: the world dribble right in front of him. It was

569
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: like insane, like behind his back. Between that, I've never

570
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: seen glides on the basketball court because he doesn't have

571
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: to start and stop like he's He's got some of

572
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 1: like the best functional tools I've seen in a guard prospect. Um,

573
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: he's like the best way to put its kind of

574
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: like John Wall, Like he's very much like John Wall,

575
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 1: but even more like strength to his game. Obviously not

576
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: as tall, um, but yeah, he's extremely special in his

577
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: own right. Like he's getting better as a shooter, Like

578
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: he's just comparing where a shot was at to close

579
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: the G League season with now, like he's removed some

580
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: hitchiness out of it and his energy transfers a little

581
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: bit better, so it gets off quicker more accurately. Um,

582
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: his overall field for the game is better. It was

583
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: funny because like much like Vic, like he came into

584
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: this game, like that first game he was like just

585
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: ischuing like every pass movie. He's like, no, man, I'm

586
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm scoring today, Like I'm showing that I can score

587
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: like this um, which again like just really cool to

588
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: see stuff like that and seeing like very much like Vic,

589
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: like somebody who is processing the game really quickly. He

590
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: he sees and reads defenses incredibly well. Because as much

591
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: as we like to point out how good Victor was

592
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: like coming cross court to to block that that pole jumper,

593
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: like like like you guys mentioned earlier, he did a

594
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: ton of stuff to set himself up the rest of

595
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: that game to actually play pretty well against Victor. So

596
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: again like obviously it's it's it's different levels to it,

597
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: but the stuff that he shows is just like that

598
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: stuff that you can't teach. It's on the elite um,

599
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: all right. So this brings us to the dumb pitch

600
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: for the NBA. We ourselves on being the dumbest UH

601
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: podcast that has partnered with the NBA, maybe the dumbest

602
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: thing the NBA has ever associated its name with. And

603
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: so we we have a couple ideas. So super producer Jabari,

604
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: who's like a real, a real hoops head, and like

605
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: called one out from uh Pell's dozen on Twitter that

606
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: was about the luxury tax and basically keeping teams together

607
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: by retaining a player, like if you draft and retain

608
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: a player, their salaries should only count like against luxury

609
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: at tax. Uh, and maybe even offset the difference by

610
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: making a max free agency sign is counting one against

611
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: luxury tax, like if you want to keep teams together. UM,

612
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: I reject that as being entirely too smart and well

613
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: thought out, Like that's that's our last pitch for the

614
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: NBA that we came to came with was that Zion

615
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: has warmups that are in the shape of an overall

616
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: that he gets to tear off as as he comes

617
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: comes in on a fan boat and just like really

618
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: leans into the byu nous vibes. But I think with Wemby,

619
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: we have a good opportunity, right because if he potentially

620
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: is changing the way we look at basketball and play basketball,

621
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: then maybe we also need to arm the other teams

622
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: with ways to defend against Wemby. Uh. One of my ideas,

623
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: and we've we've talked about this before, is you should

624
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: be able to deploy some kind of obstacle or hindrance

625
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: that he has to wear or something that would affect

626
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: his game for at least five to ten minutes of

627
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: a game, whether that is to where like playing tims

628
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: or where like knee braces that don't allow his knees

629
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: to bend, so he has to be straight legged for

630
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: like ten minutes. Whereto the frenchness. So I think that

631
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: that's a because he seems like he doesn't really care

632
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: and he's not like trying to fit into anything. He's

633
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: just trying to be like unlike anything else. Like he

634
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: just smokes four or five cigarettes, a bottle of red

635
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: wine on the bench playing Shoutout. Nick Kroll wears loafers

636
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: or like those you know, French sneakers that are some

637
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: brand I've never heard of, right right, you know, like

638
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: a striped shirt, pencil mustache. Also, if people are worried

639
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: about tanking, which there there might be a bit of that. Actually,

640
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm curious because of the pacers, where do you think

641
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Wendy might end up? Like who's gonna do the best

642
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: job this season? Trying to get a great question, Um,

643
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: I think I'm probably I know a lot of people

644
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: have thrown out Charlotte. I don't think that they go

645
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: for it. That is not Steve Clifford's m O. I

646
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: would be shocked if he came back to coach the

647
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: team just for them to tank. Like I think that

648
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: they have clear awards and issues, but I doubt they're

649
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: going to be that bad unless unless there's some kind

650
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: of agreement there. I just personally doubt it. Right I

651
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: would have my money on Utah, Indiana or Spurs. Um.

652
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: I think Indiana is like I think there'll be a

653
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: competent basketball team, but much like the Pistons from a

654
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: couple of years ago before they ended up getting kid

655
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: when I I think they finished like twenty one and

656
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: in fifty two or something like that, but they were

657
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: like the best bad basketball team I've ever seen. They

658
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: were in like every game, they rarely got blown out. Um,

659
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: that was like Jeremy Grant's first year when he was

660
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: really good. I kind of envisioned the Pacers being in

661
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: that same line. The Spurs I think are really going

662
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: to struggle this year. They just like have nobody who

663
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: has ever really carried primary reps before, like they have

664
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: confident basketball players. But again, I think it's gonna be

665
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: the same line. And then Utah, like if Utah had

666
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: to go into the season right now and they were

667
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: not allowed to cut anybody. I think that the team

668
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: would actually be kind of fine, like a thirty ish

669
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: win team, like they'd be decent. But I have a

670
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: feeling that they're really going to lean into this, considering

671
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: how much they've cleaned house already. Um, I imagine Mike

672
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Colley's gonna get traded. I'd imagine They're gonna try and

673
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: find something for Jordan Clarkson, and this team is gonna

674
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: be playing like some funky, freaking lineups. So um, I'd

675
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: say one of those three teams would be where I'd

676
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: bank on it half unless something you know, crazy happens

677
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: with the lottery. And Angel has done a pretty good

678
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: he he has had. Yeah, he likes leaning into it.

679
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: He did it with the Celtics and successfully, like you know,

680
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: coppled together a bunch of really great picks. And yeah,

681
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: the the Jazz seemed like they might be might be

682
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: the team that makes most sense, and the Spurs did

683
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: it that one season that they got duncan. What one

684
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: dumb pitch I have is that we just get to

685
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: vote nationally at the mid terms with who gets the

686
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: first pick and who gets the second pick. And it's

687
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: between the Spurs and the Jazz, so it's not it's

688
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: not like Lakers fans come in and just all say

689
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: we get we get the we don't need it. Don't

690
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: need it, man, because we're hanging number eighteen up. Yeah,

691
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: so Indiana Spurs Jazz three way runoff election, see who

692
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: gets the number one pick. It would actually help voter

693
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: participation to you know people, he would be at the

694
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: polls if the NBA, because I know they're like, they're

695
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: not playing games on election day. That's perfect. Find a

696
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: way to work with the federal government to somehow allow

697
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: voters during these these massively important elections to also voice

698
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: their opinion on this and maybe we get people to

699
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: the polls. Okay, good idea. All right, let's take a

700
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll run that by the league and we'll

701
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: tell you what they say right when we get back

702
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: and we're back. Wow, that did not go well that

703
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: it wouldn't even let us get through to the commissioner. Wow. Okay,

704
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: do you know we were Miles and Jack from Jacko

705
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: madst Then okay, the owners would come out strapped up

706
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: if that was if that was to them so seriously,

707
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: I'd be interested though, Yeah, it would be interesting. Man.

708
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: So I guess it's time. I guess about that time.

709
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: We're in the fourth quarter, Mark Schindler, get ready for

710
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: the rapid fire round of questioning. Now. I don't know

711
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: if you know about this, but this is the fastest

712
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: segment in sports discussion podcasts on Earth. Okay, now what

713
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: happens is we're gonna ask you a question. Just react,

714
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: give us your just first take, react to it straight back.

715
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: No long answers, okay, please do not give long answers,

716
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: and do not let us give long answers either. That

717
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: responsibility is completely on you, the guests, to keep this

718
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: segment moving. There are no wrong answers. There are long answers, though,

719
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: and we do not appreciate those. We don't like them

720
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: long and wrong. Okay, here we go, start the clock

721
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: for the rapid fire round. Um yeah, okay, well I'm

722
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: just gonna go for it this time. All right. See,

723
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: my therapist is saying, to be more confident, and you know,

724
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: express I have noticed this episode you've been very assertive

725
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: and I love it for you. And see and I

726
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: said I was expressing my knees like I somehow said

727
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: that the Lakers can win an eighteenth championship to see

728
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: the seat like, I'm just voicing stuff for my own

729
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: mental health if we're going to cut that out. But okay,

730
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: first question, mark starting the clock back up. Now, we've

731
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: seen a lot of great sports documentaries recently. Got The

732
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: Last Dance, you got the Lakers Legacy on Hulu, you

733
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: got The Redeemed Team. What is your favorite sports documentary

734
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: of all time? Oh? Man, so all right, I'm not

735
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: even a big baseball fan, but I will say I

736
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: think it's what is it like seven Days in October?

737
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: It's something along those lines. It's about the Red Sox

738
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: winning after going down oh three? Uh you know, I

739
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: believe I can't. You know, I don't know. The leak's

740
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: well enough. But whatever the championship series is before days

741
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: of October, that's before. Yeah, it's a tremendous documentary. This

742
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: is the first time we've gotten a All Caps boom

743
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: and I have so many problems with The Last Dance.

744
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: I just can't put it there. Okay, Oh, which, ok,

745
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: I like that. Okay, what's your what's your favorite documentary?

746
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're taking uh though j documentary the

747
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: one the Oscar out, which is, you know, one of

748
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: the best, Yeah, kind of translate sports, I did. I

749
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: mean the last dance was I was I was a

750
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: fan of Jordan's fan of the Bulls. That I know,

751
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm weird as a kid, but like, this was the

752
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: access that I had dreamed of, you know, growing up

753
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: as like my my formative experiences with basketball, with sports

754
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: and just getting to sit there watch that what was

755
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: probably my favorite experience. And it was also just the

756
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: timing of it was like I was in such desperate

757
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: need of NBA basketball and they came through and we

758
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: were it was desert thirst out there for some hoops action.

759
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: For me, I really liked A King's Ransom, which has

760
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: nothing to do with basketball, the Gretzky one. That one

761
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: was really really good, uh and then also kind of

762
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: a tangentially sports long shot, the one about the guy

763
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: who was like accused of murder but then his lawyer

764
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: found him in the background of Curb Your Enthusiasm and yeah,

765
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: that was just an interesting intersection of Dodgers, Curb Your Enthusiasm,

766
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: and true crime. But anyway, man, Mark, what I say

767
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: this is the rapid fire rounded questions man, But this

768
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: keep it on the rails. Mark all right, on the

769
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: same subject, what documentary do you want to see even

770
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: if it violates the rules of reality and physics? Like

771
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: the one that occurred to me was like Bill Russell

772
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: from day one, they've got access in footage and like

773
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: really breaking down how he was the most winning player,

774
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: like athlete of all time maybe or and then superproducer

775
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: Jabari came through with Wilt, which you get the footage

776
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: of the one point game that is like the stuff

777
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: of legends, but nobody really has visibility into how it happened.

778
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: I was saying that one would be dope unless it

779
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: is what I secretly suspect, which is like it looks

780
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: like me playing against my six year old just like

781
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: swatting everything and putting it in, which I so a

782
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: lot of dunking on crying children. Yeah, yeah exactly. But yeah,

783
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: who do you pick? Mark Man? Yeah, that's tough. I

784
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: think I'd have to. I'll narrow down to like three.

785
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: One on Kauai just because I know absolutely nothing about Kuai. Yeah,

786
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: I would be cool the man behind the last something

787
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: on the Sonics because just like I grew up again

788
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: like tangentially a Sonics fan. And that's partially why I

789
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: just like parts of the Last Dance because they told

790
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: lies about Gary Payton. Um. But yeah, something on them

791
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: and like their history would be really cool. Just don't

792
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: revolve George Carls. I don't like that man um. And

793
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: then something on unlike the fourteen Indiana Pacers because I

794
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: need to I need to get that still still breaks

795
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: my heart a little bit, but yeah, I think it

796
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: was already my three. All Right, those are could pick.

797
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: I want to see a Craig Hodges documentary. That would

798
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: be cool. I want to see Craig Hodges like up

799
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: in it. Like that I think is a perfect intersection

800
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: of you know, culture and like the league and where

801
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: we were at and what we were trying to do

802
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: in a very very changed to that. That's a much

803
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: better answer. Well, yeah, and I would do the very

804
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: culturally significant thing. I think these were all great answers. Okay, alright,

805
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: moving on, please Mark, keep me on track. Mark, if

806
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: you could introduce a new rule into the NBA, what

807
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: change are you making effective immediately? Well, they got rid

808
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: of the take foul, so that already makes me happy. Um,

809
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: you could this could be anything, doesn't have to be

810
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: rooted and don't try and make a good idea. You

811
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: can go get out. Landed suggested each stadium has their

812
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: own pattern of three point lines, like a green monster. Yeah,

813
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: green monster equivalent, bring back three point shot from rock

814
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: and jobs. I think I would do something in terms

815
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: of like if your ownership this is like turning turning

816
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: it out and said, if your ownership doesn't dig into

817
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: the lottery at least once every five years, they get fined.

818
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: That's something that would make me happy because I'm tired

819
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: of these owners who own a sports team and then

820
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: refused to actually like operated like a winning Sancho. Yeah,

821
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: so you know what, if you're not gonna do it,

822
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: we'll find something else she does. So, uh, that's my

823
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: rule ID implement relegate him. Yeah, that was our idea

824
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: last week. Relegate and promotion. You know what I mean,

825
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: Like you're saying they need to get into into the lottery,

826
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: like they need to tank every once in a while,

827
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: like they have to, they have to go into the

828
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: luxury tax. Like if you got to going to luxury tax,

829
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: gotta gotta go ship. All right, I got you. That's

830
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: a good idea. I kind of like it. Jack. Oh yeah, sorry,

831
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: you gotta keep you gotta, you gotta keep me. Come on, man,

832
00:42:54,200 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: I just want yeah back is like a goldfish man.

833
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: All right. You've been known for having some pretty wild

834
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: food takes on the timeline, So you gotta give us

835
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: what's your most polarizing take to date, and then what's

836
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: the one you like feel the strongest about. Most polarizing

837
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: was probably when I tweeted about how bad spaghetti is.

838
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: Um like spaghetti, I'm not I'm not a spaghetti your

839
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: pasta person like in the pasta. Yeah, all pasta is

840
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: like pretty mid to me um. And I think that

841
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: that that did not go over well. I had I

842
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: deleted it fairly quickly, but I had I put out

843
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: like a note app thing on my food tears for Thanksgiving,

844
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: and that that did not go well. Um. But the

845
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: thing that I probably feel strongest about, uh, peanut butter

846
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: is like the greatest thing of all time. I can

847
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: help kind of butter with with a spoon, uh Like.

848
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: I Yeah, that's that's probably the thing I feel mostly about.

849
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: And I couldn't like agree harder with that. I don't

850
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Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, right before, I'm like, man, pasta, Okay,

851
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Speaker 1: I love pasta so much. Have you tried putting sauce

852
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Speaker 1: on the pasta? I feel like I find that help

853
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Speaker 1: like a sauce, Yeah, I would like, I mean, I mean,

854
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Speaker 1: I'll eat it. I just like I'd so much rather

855
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Speaker 1: have anything else than pasta for the mootes part. I

856
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Speaker 1: also like tweeted out one day that I think lasagna

857
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: is pretty terrible. Um, so you're I mean you're coming

858
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Speaker 1: for just Italian food. Yeah, one of might giant ones

859
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: that I think Italians was just kind of overrated. But

860
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: um yeah, that's that's a cancelable take. I've I've I've learned. Um,

861
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: I love pizza. But because like noodles, I think Dan

862
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: Dan noodles. You might like Dan Dan noodles, which is

863
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: an Asian noodle dish that's got peanut butter, that's using

864
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: Asian dish. Is like I love curry and stuff like that. Fantastic.

865
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh so you're so you're truly like a post like

866
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Speaker 1: a Towan cruisine. You're like, no, no, no, no, no no, no,

867
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: no chow Maine. I just like it's it's texture, MANX

868
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: just got it. Yeah, got it. I also gotta say

869
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: the peanut butter take is very Ohio of you, the Ohio.

870
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: Um what are the little chocolate cover peanut balls of

871
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: those guys? Yeah, people don't know about that. I lived

872
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: in Dayton for five years and uh that. Oh man.

873
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: They're just little peanut butter chocolate balls. They're the greatest things.

874
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: You can get them at like any gas station in Ohio.

875
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: Fully recommend should be illegal, but very definitely they're like

876
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: crack mark. We have to keep this moving, man. I

877
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Speaker 1: hate cut in here, man, but you know, man, like

878
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Speaker 1: I said, you gotta keep us on the track. Man

879
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: the rules. Let's go ahead, come on, Okay, now, now

880
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Speaker 1: the league may have dropped the Comeback Player of the

881
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: Year award years ago. Let us get your top three

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Speaker 1: candidates for because we're reclaiming that award as a show

883
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: for the boost these bounced back player also first and foremost,

884
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Speaker 1: they should have never gotten rid of it. You heard that, right,

885
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Speaker 1: the league than player. This is tough because I'm trying

886
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: to think who was even out last year? Um, I mean,

887
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: so you got your wall, you got your because wall

888
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: sad because it's injury. Kauai, I mean Kauai definitely top

889
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: three for that, um Man. Maybe Ricky Rubio but he was.

890
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: He played for a little bit last year, and I

891
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be running for the award for

892
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: being honest. Um, just hoping for I mean Zion is again.

893
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: Zion is an easy one. Uh, hoping for Ruey hatch Mur.

894
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: He played for a while last year and he was

895
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: out for like the beginning. It was kind of weird.

896
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: More like, I just hope you haven't bounced back this year. Um,

897
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: I really can't remember who else is out? Like that

898
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: means it tough. I promised I know my stuff, but like, jeez,

899
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 1: I guess guys seeing Peanut butter all day. Yeah that's true.

900
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm just in front of me right now. All right,

901
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: first time I All Star this season? That you think

902
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 1: people are are sleeping on. Uh, I'll name a couple.

903
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: Bron's Wagner from Orlando. I think he. I think he

904
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: has the jump. He's good man, He's so good. Um,

905
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: I do you think it's he's a lot closer to

906
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: being on the same level of Scottie, Like I think

907
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: he and Scotti bars on the same level. Um, it

908
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: could be honest, Like, I think that some Toronto fans

909
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: would disagree with me on that that's fine, that's my opinion. Um,

910
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: other guys you might take the leap. I think I

911
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: don't know if he's quite there yet. I think if

912
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 1: if he does take the leap, aunt could be first

913
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: time All Star. Um and just giving narrative to you

914
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: on on where people are at with him, I think

915
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: that's possible. Yeah, Scottie Barnes, I mean, like that is

916
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: the standard take right now is I think a lot

917
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: of people are expecting Scotti bar to just be I mean,

918
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: he was awesome last year, but I think he is

919
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: also a big candidate for the leap. Yeah, I think

920
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: it's possible with him too. I would not bet on

921
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: him taking the All Star lea though. It's just that's

922
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: hardly it's to make, you know. Yeah, I was thinking

923
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: about doing it this season, but I think it's too

924
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: hard for me over him to make. That's not to

925
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: say that they're like better long term prospects. I think

926
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: they are, but you know, like that's uh, just I

927
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: have to hedge a little bit because Toronto fans do

928
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: get up in arms over their guys, which I respect,

929
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: but also I promise I'll watch the games. Um, but

930
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: Mobile is just so good and k is gonna be

931
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: I see it. If he's gonna he's gonna be an

932
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: all start this year. What the good news is you

933
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: don't have to like hedge anything with like Toronto fans

934
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: or anything, because nobody takes this podcast seriously enough to

935
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: get mad at. That's usually so you're good. You can

936
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: say very dumb things on here. But this is the

937
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: main question of all of the questions. Now, this is

938
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: the one that people will pay attention to. Mark Schindler,

939
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: Jack or Miles. Oh what I mean? I don't I

940
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: don't know clearly enough to say yet. Um Okay, I

941
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Speaker 1: like the shirt that Miles wearing better today, though, we're

942
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: being honest, so I do I do have to side

943
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: with Miles. I'm sorry, Sorry, Jack, you've made a decision.

944
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Speaker 1: You're just wearing You're right, Wow, one of the great

945
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: guests we've had. Jack up your shirt game. You heard

946
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Speaker 1: it straight here from the lips from Mark Schindler. I

947
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: just wanna, I just want to mention that we're both

948
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: wearing solid colored shirts. No, I got a little I

949
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Speaker 1: got a little trip right here. Okay, all right, there

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Speaker 1: is Okay, mine is just a white T shirt. So

951
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Speaker 1: Jack up on this man, Let's know, I should have

952
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: been for you. You take a lot of like time

953
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: getting ready for these recordings because I'm like, all right,

954
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: so this is I'm looking at myself in the mirror.

955
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is who Mark is going to be

956
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: looking at when we asked him Jack or Miles like,

957
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: what what do I want to do? Do I want

958
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: to like act like I'm are compensating brightly colored shirt

959
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 1: or do I just want to go white T shirt?

960
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: Like stand like I said, don't scare the guests, Jack,

961
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: don't scare the guests. Pull off without over compensating though

962
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: huh yeah, yeah, you know, no, that's right, Jack. There's

963
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: a certain emptiness that a Laker fan has that you

964
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: have to compensate for just another vibrancy energetically that you've

965
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: seen the banners up in in that arena. Come on, man, yeah,

966
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Like hey, look, you know,

967
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: Lakers fans are historianic, they are they just oh my god,

968
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: we'll be all right this year. It's it's hard, you know,

969
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: it's hard out here. You know the weight of that

970
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: eighteenth one who knows exactly, Like, yeah, just give us

971
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: this little update in the chat, Miles, is thirteen one

972
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Speaker 1: and oh. Um, yeah, I mean no's deserved for just

973
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: look look like everything history, Well it's it's cyclical, man.

974
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, I'm probably gonna go oh for

975
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Speaker 1: thirteen you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm just I

976
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: just I think I need to fire my coach and

977
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: then you know, oh, and you're gonna tank the next episode.

978
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: Yeah wait now Miles is thirteen oh and one one draw,

979
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, sorry, I just wanted to make sure that

980
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, it was clear. I'm oh, thirteen and one.

981
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: That's uh, I've been on you. I've been on you

982
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: in the next fight because the odds on that will

983
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: be wild and I could be coming there, So I

984
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: look at it that way, you know. Well, Mark Schindler,

985
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, validating my you know,

986
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: just just who I am, and also Jack as well.

987
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: We really appreciate that. Where can people follow you and

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Speaker 1: you know, find you and hear your work, listen to

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00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: your work, read your work and all that. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I appreciate you guys having me this

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Speaker 1: just fun. You can find me on Twitter at MG

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Speaker 1: Underscore Schindler, um G Underscore, s h I and d

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Speaker 1: and scouting pretty much anywhere else, particularly at a dime

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Speaker 1: up prox. So follow me on Twitter is the easiest

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Speaker 1: way to get there though, And we also have to

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Speaker 1: get shout out to everybody who follows us at mad Boost.

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter, we gotta unveil this week's mad Boost

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Speaker 1: the Twitter of the week At bany eight four, Ben

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00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: tweeted us we're talking about when Yama? He said four things. First,

1003
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: the dude is straight out of a creative player. Yes,

1004
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: we know that, We've seen it. Like I said, he's

1005
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: maxed out on every stat too. Who has the best

1006
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: chance to dunk on the kid early? Like Kobe did?

1007
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: Dwight Quick quick answer Jack? Who has the best chance

1008
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: to dunk on the kid earlier? John John seems to

1009
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: like Okay, markt Jah Oh No, I feel I'm gonna

1010
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Speaker 1: go an I'll do kind of strong. He's strong too,

1011
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: but he will complement him on his act as he

1012
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: does that all that we irish number three? Does anyone

1013
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: dunk on him? After? When min Yama's twenty two, that's

1014
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: a great question. The window in which he can't be

1015
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: dunked on, and then he becomes like Danos, Yeah, definitely.

1016
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: H there's this kid coming up named Ron Holland the

1017
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: second that dunks on everybody, I think he's not this

1018
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: coming draft flash, but the one after he's going to

1019
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: do it, he's like, I think it's gonna happen. Yeah.

1020
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Speaker 1: And number four is his ceiling higher than Lebron? Is

1021
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: he ahead of Lebron? I don't know if we can

1022
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: say that because he hasn't done anything yet, so I

1023
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: would say no. I will say the thing that Lebron

1024
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: had that nobody was accounting for at this age was

1025
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: longevity and like the just just built to play an

1026
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: inordinate amount of basketball, and then also like a genius

1027
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Speaker 1: for conditioning. I will say, the other person who had

1028
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: great conditioning is a comp that one banana is getting

1029
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Speaker 1: a lot, which is Koreem just an incredible longevity and

1030
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Speaker 1: also seven ft four, so it's not impossible that he

1031
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: would have the longevity. But obviously, well, thank you so

1032
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Speaker 1: much Mark for joining us, and thank you the listener

1033
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Speaker 1: for joining us as well. Obviously, follow us at mad Boost.

1034
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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter. We will see y'all next week. And

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Speaker 1: this has been another episode of Miles and Jack Got

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Speaker 1: Mad Boosties