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Speaker 1: What's up.

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Speaker 2: It's way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee, And

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Speaker 2: as a person who loves going to the theater to

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Speaker 2: see Broadway plays, off Broadway plays, plays in general, to

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Speaker 2: celebrate that type of art, I'm really excited to have

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Speaker 2: the team that is behind us and in front of

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Speaker 2: Super Freak The Rick James Story here with me today.

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Speaker 1: We have Dacarious Johnson Entertainments. All right. We also have.

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Speaker 2: Ti James, who is Rick James's daughter but also the

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Speaker 2: president of the estate.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, what's up? What's up? And we have.

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Speaker 2: Stokely who is starring in the play but also you

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Speaker 2: know him from Mint Condition?

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Speaker 1: Does that bother you or you? Okay, okay, the Condition?

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Speaker 2: But also a solo artist, also a solo artist, we

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Speaker 2: can't forget that, and a musician.

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Speaker 1: So thank you guys for coming.

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Speaker 2: So first, while people are listening, let's talk about Super

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Speaker 2: Freak the Rick James Story. It's a play, just to

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Speaker 2: be clear and so people can see this. The plays

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Speaker 2: been on tour. I know you guys were in d

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Speaker 2: T which is a lot. I actually heard a lot

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Speaker 2: of things about it from when it was in detrait

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Speaker 2: and that it's very you know, not censored. Let's just say,

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Speaker 2: because you can't have a Rick James story and censor that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, we have to give it to you real

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Speaker 3: and raw, just like he would like it.

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Speaker 1: M hm.

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Speaker 3: That's our that's our goal, and I think we've definitely

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Speaker 1: So was this always the plan?

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Speaker 2: Because ty I know you did the documentary right bitching

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Speaker 2: correct that came out previously.

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Speaker 1: I know there's been other projects on Rick James.

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Speaker 2: So was it always like, Okay, we're gonna do this,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do the play, then we'll do the movie

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Speaker 2: that's going to be a biopick or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So I would think it's definitely steps.

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Speaker 3: I really go by how I'm led, you know what

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Speaker 3: my spirit says, being the only daughter and really the president,

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Speaker 3: you know, making sure that everything is really according to

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Speaker 3: his wishes. I know I have to make my dad proud,

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Speaker 3: and you know the world needs to see the man

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Speaker 3: that he is and always say is in the present tense,

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Speaker 3: because it's never was to me.

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Speaker 1: His presence, his spirit, everything is still here.

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Speaker 2: Jacarrius, what made you decide to get on board as

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Speaker 4: Well met Tye and Tye is fantastic, just an incredible

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Speaker 4: human being and most importantly her passionate about her father's legacy.

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Speaker 4: And the more I read about him, the more I

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Speaker 4: realized that we really don't know the man. You know,

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Speaker 4: he was relegated to kind of a Dave Chappelle's skit

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Speaker 4: language that defined him. And the truth is he was

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Speaker 4: so much more than that. And that's what this play

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Speaker 4: with music, I would call it more of a musical

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Speaker 4: because it has all his.

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Speaker 5: Hits in it.

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Speaker 4: It uncovers the man, you know, the journey, the conflict

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Speaker 4: and everything that he embodies.

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Speaker 2: Right, the complications of being the superstar who he was,

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Speaker 2: but also being a human being, but also pitfalls and

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Speaker 3: It's so much joy and pain and just the emotion

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Speaker 3: that it takes and that you have to actually possess

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Speaker 3: to pull this off. You know, between Jakarius and his expertise,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure this is even something challenging for him because

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Speaker 3: of the musical legacy you know that exists with my dad. Stokely,

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Speaker 3: just being able to embody, every element and every aspect

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Speaker 3: we're reliving his life. It's really really crazy, stokely.

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Speaker 2: I've read some amazing reviews about you playing that lead

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Speaker 2: How intimidating is that though, because it is Rick James

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Speaker 2: and so the legacy of Rick James, you have your

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Speaker 2: when it's somebody that's like a figure like that who's

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Speaker 6: A musical hero to me. Roads you like, actually saw

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Speaker 6: him one time, didn't say anything.

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Speaker 1: And that was so like, where did you see him?

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Speaker 6: At Le Montrose in Los Angeles a long time ago?

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Speaker 2: And that's a nice intimate hotel too. You can't act

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Speaker 6: Rick James right here, you know, I'm reading a variety

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Speaker 6: of magazine or something like that. I saw him, watched

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Speaker 6: him see me, and he.

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Speaker 5: Was like and I was like, oh, just like.

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Speaker 6: All these rose colored glasses, these pink glass like man.

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Speaker 6: But I wanted to say something after him kicking myself.

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Speaker 2: And that was in the days when we had cell phones,

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Speaker 2: you would have definitely been like, can we get a pick?

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Later I heard he said some of the complimentary

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how could you not love men conditioned though, honestly,

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Speaker 1: Too many.

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Speaker 6: He was the music dude, so I mean, come from

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Speaker 6: everything identified with and just like yeah, I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: just we're just talking Earlier, I'm like, man, just so

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Speaker 6: a thrill about this whole experience, and it's been amazing.

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Speaker 2: What would you say has been the most challenging part

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Speaker 6: Diving into just trying to embody the character, the essence

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Speaker 6: you're trying to get because you know, he's an amazing

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Speaker 6: you can never you know, play a person and he's

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Speaker 6: his own thing on island, so you get as close

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Speaker 6: I said, get the essence of what he was, all

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Speaker 6: the different ranges, because only as Jakari said, you know,

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Speaker 6: we only saw a few things. You know, some comedic

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Speaker 6: things we saw, and you know, seeing the thing on BT,

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Speaker 6: you know, it's just he's so much more than that.

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Speaker 6: So trying to really get into the spirit of that

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Speaker 6: and to make it believable. You know, it's been the thing.

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Speaker 2: And there's also a lot of other famous people who

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Speaker 2: this play when people see it as well. You know,

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Speaker 2: clearly he had a hit song with Smokey Robinson. He

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Speaker 2: also wrote Eddie Murphy's whole album, and everybody knows that

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Speaker 2: Murphy and Richard Pryor a hundred thousand dollars that he

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Speaker 2: couldn't put out some music and then he went right

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Speaker 2: to Rick James and Rick James row Eddie Murphy a

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Speaker 1: You know how crazy that is. Did Richard probably ever

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Speaker 1: pay that one hundred thousand dollars? Do you guys know?

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Speaker 1: For you that's a good question all the way to

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Speaker 3: My dad put his hands on just prolific writer, arranger, producer.

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Speaker 3: He embodied all three elements, which is you know, called

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Speaker 1: And great haird is that people still do today?

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Speaker 3: You know when people have that's the Rick James here, dude, Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 5: That's the beauty of the musical too.

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Speaker 4: Because I feel like because he embodied all of that, Like,

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Speaker 4: that's what he was trying to say in the way

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Speaker 4: that we've told the story. That's what he's trying to

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Speaker 4: say at the end of it. When he's like, I'm

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Speaker 4: Rick James, it's like, put some respect on my name.

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Speaker 4: Understand what I did for the culture. Understand how I

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Speaker 4: really contributed, and don't forget that, right, you know, And

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Speaker 4: that's the point in this. We we need to celebrate,

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Speaker 4: put some respect on his name. And when you see

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Speaker 4: this musical, you understand why.

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Speaker 5: Right, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of stories that people who

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Speaker 2: don't know, but some of your favorite songs, like I

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Speaker 2: could compare him to Prince in a way that Prince

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Speaker 2: wrote songs for a lot of people that we love,

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Speaker 2: especially women too, right, because he was writing for Mary

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Speaker 2: Jane girls, you know, some of their hits. But then

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Speaker 2: they also were kind of in a competition with each other.

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Speaker 2: But Prince actually started out opening absolutely for Rick James.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't even know that.

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Speaker 2: What are some yeah, Todd, tell us some Rick James stuff,

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Speaker 2: because I feel like, you know, there's things that maybe

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Speaker 3: So for me, it's just always a learning experience when

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Speaker 3: it comes to my dad, because there were so many

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Speaker 3: facets to him, I would like to just emphasize the

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Speaker 1: I love, love, love that. And you have some early

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Speaker 3: I mean I remember seeing that you would like step

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Speaker 1: Like but like it's normal. You know, they've been partying

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Speaker 2: And what were the dynamics few because we know he

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Speaker 2: was married, but then he also you know, Tina Marie.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows that they or maybe they don't know. I

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Speaker 2: But had their relationship but also made great music together,

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Speaker 2: like Fire and Desire. I mean, you can't even you

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Speaker 2: can't compare that music to today's music.

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Speaker 3: Is like where is a ballot? Like that now? Like

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Speaker 3: I would love to see it. But it's funny that

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Speaker 3: you say that because a lot of people think Tina

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Speaker 3: is my mom. It's like, right, no, they didn't happen kids,

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Speaker 3: although you know, Alia's like family to me.

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Speaker 1: That's Tina Maurice's only daughter.

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Speaker 3: But they definitely had a love affair that could not

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Speaker 3: out in the music, the chemistry, that dynamic. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's almost like a love hate because the angrier they

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Speaker 1: We love some dysfunctional music.

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Speaker 2: And Jacarius so what are some other things that you've

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Speaker 2: worked on and really like drawing you into this project,

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Speaker 2: What was the process for you to say, all right,

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Speaker 2: let's get this done.

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Speaker 4: Uh. You know, one of the things that I just

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Speaker 4: believe in is there's not a lot of people kind

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Speaker 1: And I left seeing us in those seats, like when

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Speaker 2: Their black audience, you know, to see Yes, I think

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Speaker 2: Times it'll be like the night that they have Okay,

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Speaker 1: Let's tell these stories more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely a disconnect, and part of it is

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Speaker 5: I mean that's the truth.

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Speaker 1: But then you got to also stay on Broadway. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's support, but it's also the experience and

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Speaker 2: Listen, I've been hearing such amazing things, and stukey back

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Speaker 1: But what was your experience.

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Speaker 1: A little bit later. People say that you were so loyal.

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Speaker 2: People had wanted you to do solo projects, but you

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Speaker 6: That's that's always open. I've never It's funny how whatever

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Speaker 1: Here I am. Now, should I go back.

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Speaker 6: Thirty something years together? It's like you should all the

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Speaker 1: Much fine.

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Speaker 6: It's human nature.

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Speaker 6: But it's it's all beautiful. I mean, it's there's just

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting because you know, like you said, it

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Speaker 1: From Men Conditions too.

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Speaker 5: It's true.

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Speaker 6: I love it, you know, kind of reinvent yourself and

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Speaker 1: To approach you or did you like, how did this happen? Well?

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Speaker 6: I heard about just came across my management desk and say,

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Speaker 1: It's real life. Yeah, because it's too much for it

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, if this would have been like a

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Speaker 1: Think you can tell it right. Too much blood, too

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Speaker 2: Now, Ty, When it came to handling the business of

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Speaker 1: Was it difficult? Like? How was that for you?

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Speaker 3: So obviously you know my dad is a legendary, iconic figure.

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Speaker 1: And I were sitting here twiddling our thumbs.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, Okay, we know, we know we're

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was the biggest task and the hardest part,

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Speaker 5: So when s video say look at this, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: Is that your favorite Rick James song? You and I?

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Speaker 1: That's mine?

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Speaker 2: That's my favorite way, isn't it is? I mean, of

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's so many like fillers that we

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Speaker 3: So that's what we're diving into and we can't wait

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Speaker 2: God, so are you the person that you would be

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Speaker 1: Absolutely now, so do you say no?

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Speaker 5: A lot?

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Speaker 3: It depends on so basically they send the material because

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank god we did.

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Speaker 2: But we know what the barb's coming out again? Lord,

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Speaker 3: But I mean it was you know, good in so

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Speaker 1: Can't help it, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So Now for you coming up though, because your dad,

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Speaker 2: like we all know, he had a lot of things

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Speaker 2: and then like even dealing with your mom and then

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Speaker 1: Cops. What are some things that you remember.

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Speaker 2: From that, because you know, somebody could be a great father,

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Speaker 3: So he didn't come like into our life until I

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Speaker 3: because my mom did all types of things that you know.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to even talk about on it.

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Speaker 3: You can come and see it in the place in

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Speaker 3: And we actually they share two children, so they're you know,

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00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 3: with serious love and I'm very very proud of that.

441
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 3: But you know, he had to do what a man

442
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 3: has to do. And sometimes when you're chasing your dreams,

443
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: you have the freedom to leave you know, the home

444
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: or the nest or you know, and then it's just

445
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 3: the woman's responsibility to make sure that the kids are

446
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: coming up. So you know, I had to do a

447
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: lot of forgiving in my mind on both on both

448
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 3: behalfs because I'm mad at her because like.

449
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: Wait, a minute. This man is a multi millionaire. We

450
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: live in the hood.

451
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: We live in the ghetto, like you better go get

452
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 3: something hello, Yeah, And then you know with him, it's like,

453
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 3: how could you abandon your family? So it just took

454
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of prayer for moments and just

455
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 3: again forgiveness in my heart. But some some crazy, crazy,

456
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: crazy rides along the way.

457
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 1: What was it like when he did come back into

458
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 1: your life?

459
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: Basically from like rags to riches almost We were raised

460
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: in the hood, in the ghetto all over la. My

461
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 3: mom did you know, the best she could with two kids,

462
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 3: and that sometimes meant not even eating at night, like

463
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 3: you know, but I still applaud her because she was

464
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 3: a hustler. That knock on the door was definitely life changing.

465
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: Right.

466
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: We were literally wiss off to New York in the

467
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: next couple of days.

468
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,479
Speaker 1: Can't even imagine what that must have felt like for you.

469
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 3: This man didn't even know who his kids were because

470
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: he hadn't seen us. So we had a flight attendant,

471
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 3: you know, accompany us on the flight. So I see

472
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 3: him looking around like, because of course we know who.

473
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: You are, you don't know who it was.

474
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 3: It was really really crazy to going outside, and it's

475
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: like pick a car. There's the Limo, there's the ex Caliber,

476
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: there's the roads Royce, which one he want to I'm

477
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: just like.

478
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: Whoa this is? It was all very, very overwhelming. I

479
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: know it looked like you wanted to say something. It

480
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: teaches you balance, you know.

481
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 3: I really believe that you have to go through some

482
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: things in life and that might consist of, you know,

483
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 3: going without or a struggle, or it teaches you work ethic.

484
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm glad I wasn't born with a silver spoon, because

485
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of issues with that as well.

486
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: So I do things happen how they're supposed to happen.

487
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, And I believe that that's how you maintain

488
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: humbleness and being grounded in this business, to me is

489
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: very important.

490
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a line in the show about him being

491
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 4: a rock star, and you can't have rock star in

492
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 4: the family. And that's kind of a dynamic for pretty

493
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 4: much every whether you're an artist, whether you're a businessman,

494
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 4: whether or whatever. It's like a woman wants a successful man,

495
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: but then she wants you at home, and that's always

496
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 4: a complicated dynamic between how do you go out there

497
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 4: and conquer the world and be all these things that

498
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 4: you want to be and that she wants you to be.

499
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: And then you got to but but you can't. It's

500
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: only so much time, right, You've got to give your

501
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 4: time to one or the other. And that delicate balance

502
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 4: is always a challenge for everyone. And so you know

503
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: her Tie's experiences is true in the sense of he's

504
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 4: doing what he has to do. Is this rock star

505
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: to make this, to make this happen, to show to

506
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 4: create that life that's life changing, that's racks the riches

507
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 4: to be that. But then you give up something, right,

508
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: You give up time, You give up some tenderness, you

509
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 4: give up some care, you give up you know, some qt,

510
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 4: some quality time you know, with your kids, in order

511
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 4: to achieve that.

512
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 5: And I think if we all could figure.

513
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: That game out on how we could balance it, I

514
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 4: think we all be a better human being.

515
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 5: But in this.

516
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 4: Society that we live in, it's just the struggle that

517
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 4: we that we all have.

518
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 5: I deal with it.

519
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: I have three boys, right so, and it's always a

520
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: struggle to be a way for me to leave a

521
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 4: house and then my kids say, you're leaving again, daddy.

522
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 4: You know, my kids are here with me right now

523
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: in New York.

524
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 5: You know what I'm say, you.

525
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 3: Do a really good job of balance and that I

526
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 3: will say, let me take my hat off to you,

527
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: because I mean I've seen them multiple times at you know,

528
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: the shows, and they are very, very happy and healthy

529
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: and and that is just a good dynamic that you

530
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: provide for your family.

531
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: And provide is a key word, like being able to provide,

532
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: you know, for your family is important. So it's not

533
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: like you're away doing things but then not helping out

534
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: the family and providing for them too. If you can

535
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 2: do both of those things like providing also make sure

536
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: they're involved, you know, so much important, that's.

537
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: The ideal situation. Now.

538
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: Earlier, you guys did bring up Dave Chappelle, So got

539
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: to ask you those Dave Chappelle's sketches with Charlie Murphy

540
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: talking about Rick James.

541
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: You know, we look, did you find them funny?

542
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, My dad and I would sit on

543
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: the couch just cracking up because it's not just that,

544
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: it's so many of those incidences that have occurred, and

545
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: that's real life. That's why it came off so great,

546
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: you know, for the viewers and the audience, because that's

547
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: really how they interact with each other. These guys just

548
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: walk up to each other. POWs are all serious like that.

549
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: You know, my dad has messed up multiple things in

550
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: Eddie's home and just like, oh yeah, I'll tourn it out. Yes,

551
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 3: more than the couch helped the Falcet out front. It

552
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: was always something and you know through that they they

553
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: found comedy. They had a dynamic that you can't even

554
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: it's irreplaceable, like the love they have for each other.

555
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: Like it feels like he must have loved comedy to

556
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: the people that he surrounded him with and so with

557
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: like you know, that's really funny to me. So he

558
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: must have really enjoyed like laughing, because you can't just

559
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: be hanging out with Richard pryor Eddie Murphy and absolutely

560
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: like my dad was low key a comedian too, I

561
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: feel like, and they gravitated to him.

562
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: So in the manner.

563
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: Now, were there times that you were like, I don't

564
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: recognize my dad because you know, we do know it's

565
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: documented that he did have issues with drugs. You know,

566
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: he did end up going to jail where there are

567
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: times that to get told on you personally that you

568
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: witnessed or affected your relationship in any way.

569
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: Oh.

570
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I was so angry when when that came out,

571
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: partly because you know, half of it was not true.

572
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: This is somebody that willingly, you know, wanted to participate

573
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: in a weekend party or you know, whatever they were doing.

574
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: It lasted for three days.

575
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: So if somebody does something to you in a violation,

576
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: you're not gonna be there locked.

577
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Up with them for three days.

578
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: But the other part of that is, you know, I

579
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: had to be really understanding of his part, you know,

580
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: in the whole situation. So definitely angry for him putting

581
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: himself in that situation.

582
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: For some reason, my dad thought.

583
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: That I didn't know that, you know, he did drugs

584
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: as strong as he did. I've never once seen him

585
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: high other than you know, of course, taking some toots

586
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: or you know, smoking some trees or something like that.

587
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: But as far as the heavier things, that was definitely

588
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: really upsetting to me at times.

589
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: And it has to be hard to because then you

590
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: see the media's perception of what's going on, and you

591
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: have your own knowing this man obviously you know, personally,

592
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: and then having to hear that and yes, you know,

593
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: I can't even picture what that must be like, even

594
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: in the show, because you know, we keep it so real.

595
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: I was talking to Jakaria and so I'm like, well,

596
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: you know, I really don't like this part, but.

597
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to. You know, I don't want to.

598
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: And it's like we have to give you his life,

599
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: you know, the way that it was, and that you know,

600
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: that's important because I do feel like if somebody can

601
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: take something away from this as a learning lesson, as

602
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: an experience to you know that drugs don't only affect

603
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: the person that does them. They affect the family in

604
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: a way that sometimes is irreversible.

605
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it gets difficult.

606
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: Everybody got a demon. Sometimes it's drugs. Sometimes it's food.

607
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's money, Sometimes it's gambling.

608
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sometimes it's all of it.

609
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: So if I can just say that his contribution and

610
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: you know, the drug abuse, if I was to balance

611
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: those that falls so far under the radar the drugs

612
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: to me, you know, I'll take it, right.

613
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: And I mean.

614
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: They say in prison he wrote four hundred songs, right,

615
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: He wrote over a four hundred songs that.

616
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: And also Pin too, you know, autobiographies on his life.

617
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: So this is depicted, not a made up story. This

618
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: is my dad's life that he actually penned, so we

619
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: kind of have the blueprint. It's not like falling out

620
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: the sky. That's what makes it so great too.

621
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he even acknowledged he needed prison at the time. Right,

622
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 4: It was the thing that changed his life, correct, got

623
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: himself together, got away from everything and isolate so that

624
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: he could rediscover his creativity, is passion, his purpose.

625
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 5: All over again.

626
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know prison was a positive impact on him.

627
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: And he grew up in Buffalo, New York. Right did

628
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: you spend time there too, or oh, yes, I went

629
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: to school there. Okay, it's upstate New York so it

630
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: was kind of like, you know, the burbs.

631
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: So they said it was probably maybe seven African American

632
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: kids in the whole school.

633
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: So definitely straightened me out. Okay, how to get it right?

634
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: Yes, but I like that diversity because just being born

635
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: in Cali and then able to come to New York

636
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: at such a tender age, you know, it was NY

637
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: was variant, like influential in my life. Like I'm preteen, thirteen,

638
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: it's everybody, it's biggie. It's like you know, Eric being

639
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: brock him of like in the GEP and yeah it

640
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: was beautiful. So I love living in New York.

641
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: And I'm stucky for you playing this, playing Rick James.

642
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: How has that affected your music?

643
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: You know?

644
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: Even just seeing how he does things, playing this character,

645
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: learning things about his process? Has that affected you in

646
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: any way as far as you as a musician, as

647
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: a writer.

648
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 6: In process? Still, I'm processing it all because it's always

649
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 6: like I said, It's always been in me. But I

650
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 6: guess we have to wait to the next album.

651
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: You know, when is that happening? Is that almost done?

652
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 6: Write when I'm in the room, you know, when I'm

653
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 6: on vocal rest, I'm always painting stuff and got my

654
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 6: little studio with me.

655
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: So do you write for other people too? Do you

656
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: write for other people?

657
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, I'm going to be doing more of that,

658
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 6: Okay for sure?

659
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense?

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Speaker 6: Yes, all right?

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Speaker 2: Now, how can people find out these days? So they

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Speaker 2: can go see super Freak the Rich James Story.

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Speaker 4: They can go to super Freak Rick Jameslive dot com. Uh,

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Speaker 4: super freaklive dot com. Then go to the King's Theater.

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Speaker 1: They can go to uh this is Ty James. I

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Speaker 1: G Anything you type in Rick James. Oh that's.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say you are so beautiful as

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Speaker 2: his daughter, like I see your I see his features,

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Speaker 2: but beautiful, like just to see you and see how

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Speaker 2: you're handling business. We love a boss woman, so like

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Speaker 2: amazingly beautiful too.

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Speaker 6: Congratulations on the show.

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Speaker 2: Asking if I like girls, Well, thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 2: And is this something that you see really like being

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Speaker 2: on Broadway, because I think Broadway could use this and

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Speaker 2: I know that's how it can start. You go out

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Speaker 2: on the road, you tour and then you know these

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Speaker 2: are classic songs like forever songs.

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Speaker 4: Uh, it definitely can be on Broadway. We just want

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Speaker 4: to right now, we're on black Way, right, which is

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Speaker 4: telling black stories across the country, and and uh, it's

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Speaker 4: it's the it's the roadmap, okay, so we believe that

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Speaker 4: once we see it, we give the stamp of approval,

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Speaker 4: we give the support and the word of mouth, then

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Speaker 4: our pathway, too, Broadway will be supported, feued and fired

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Speaker 4: up by us.

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Speaker 5: So we could really give it to them.

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Speaker 1: And then what about the biopic? Oh girl, you know

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Speaker 1: that's Brelling that is on the way.

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Speaker 3: You would not have to wait too much longer. I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to see if Stokely gonna play r J.

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Speaker 2: All Right, well, thank y'all so much, honestly, like I

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Speaker 2: really appreciate it. May suw y'all go back, check out

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Speaker 2: the documentary Bitching, and then also go see the play

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Speaker 2: when it comes to it sitting near you or travel.

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Speaker 2: That's a nice trip to plan around to go see

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Speaker 2: it with everybody. All Right, it's way up