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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal.

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. What's going on Steelers NATIONE Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Drive on a victory Monday here in early September,

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Speaker 2: Matt the Steelers, just like we both predicted a close win.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it went exactly where. I think

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Speaker 2: we all thought it was going to play out like that. No, exactly,

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Speaker 2: nobody thought that it was going to play out like that.

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Speaker 2: The lowest over under of the Week one NFL slate

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Speaker 2: ends up being the second highest score game insane until

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Speaker 2: until Buffalo Baltimore last night.

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Speaker 3: I didn't confirm this, but I think those are the

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Speaker 3: only two games that hit the over the whole weekend.

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Speaker 3: I know unders are big, and that was the lowest time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it couldn't have been more. I mean, it

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Speaker 3: was one of the highest scoring games I predicted to

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Speaker 3: be one of the lowest scoring games. A lot to unpack.

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Speaker 3: I almost said, I don't want to overreact because it's week.

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Speaker 2: One, Week one, and that's the easiest thing to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, week ones are weird, new coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: Even Week two's can be a little weird, no.

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Speaker 3: Doubt, No doubt, and it'd be a hard game to

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Speaker 3: prepare for. But I want to give the Jets a

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Speaker 3: lot of credit. I think they're a better football team

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Speaker 3: and a better coach football team than I expected. And

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Speaker 3: that's one thing I always do on Mondays is I

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Speaker 3: think you have to recognize the opponent. I mean, these

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Speaker 3: guys are getting paid too, and that was the best

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Speaker 3: I've ever seen fields play, and some of their first

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Speaker 3: round picks on both lines of scrimmage are going to

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Speaker 3: turn into really good players. And I like this coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: But that being said, so my point is a lot

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Speaker 3: of people look at Jets like that's one of the

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Speaker 3: worst two or three teams in the league.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna be.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna be, but I also think

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of work to be done too. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the negative call one for the Steelers in that game

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Speaker 3: is pretty extensive and worrisome.

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Speaker 2: It sure is, and we will obviously get to that today.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna catch up with our buddy Rob King about

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Speaker 2: fifteen twenty minutes from now as well, too, the voice

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Speaker 2: of the Steelers get his perspective from what he saw

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Speaker 2: there in the booth. But I think you're right. That's

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Speaker 2: the that's the beauty of a week one win. I

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Speaker 2: guess still, I don't even want to say ugly, but.

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Speaker 3: We can do it with a smile on our face,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Right, missus? That kick all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden burn the place down.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's almost exactly what you want in a way.

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Speaker 2: There's positives to build off of. There's still plenty that

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Speaker 2: you can harp on these guys about this week so

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Speaker 2: that they're not feeling too good about themselves either. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you're one to zero and I think give a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and I think you have a quarterback, And that's where

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Speaker 2: I wanted to start, that is, I think you have to.

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Speaker 2: There are some concern and some negatives and some things

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Speaker 2: that we'll get into certainly, But my goodness, I think

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Speaker 2: even the most optimistic Aaron Rodgers supporters heading into this

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season, and I think you were certainly

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Speaker 2: one of them, And I.

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Speaker 3: Think pretty impressive to be around a camp I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, and those type of things.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think I was maybe only half a step

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Speaker 2: behind you in terms of expectations for this guy and

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Speaker 2: what it would mean for the Steelers offense and what

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Speaker 2: he still had left in the tank. But I didn't

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Speaker 2: think that was going to translate to four touchdown passes

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Speaker 2: in the first game of the season or that many points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we have not or an opening drive touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we should have opened the show with the opening

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Speaker 3: drive last year.

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Speaker 2: You want to know the last time the Steelers opened

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Speaker 2: a season with an opening drive touchdown? Oh Man two

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Speaker 2: thousand and eight against the Houston Texas.

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Speaker 4: Okay, wow, long time.

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Speaker 2: I was still in high school, Matt. Wow, I'm a

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Speaker 2: thirty four year old father a.

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Speaker 4: Tune right right.

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Speaker 3: So No, there's a lot of good I mean this game,

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Speaker 3: as much as I can remember, the good call them

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Speaker 3: we could really talk about, and we might as well

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Speaker 4: Of course, I think Rogers it with.

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Speaker 3: Boswell and the bad callum is as pretty obvien. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's things that actually go in this call them or

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Speaker 3: this call them. Oh, I know, I call them to

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Speaker 3: put all these things in. So let's start with Rogers.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I'm not gonna start with Rogers. I'm

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Speaker 3: just going to talk about old guys in leadership and

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Speaker 4: I think that was huge in this game.

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Speaker 3: That one team is trying to learn how to win

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Speaker 3: and first time head coach. The other one has been

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Speaker 3: always has a winning record and wins one score games

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Speaker 3: like it's their job, and has Cam Hayward and Watt

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Speaker 3: and Rogers and Ramsey and Sleigh and metcalf. A lot

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Speaker 3: of these guys are new, not all of them that

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Speaker 3: understand that the fight is not lost just because we're

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Speaker 3: not good at some things. You know that in the end,

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Speaker 3: this is going to come down to a couple of plays,

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Speaker 3: probably in the fourth quarter. And I think there's an

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Speaker 4: You know, we've joked.

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Speaker 3: I mean it just ended, but Pat Mahomes won seventeen

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Speaker 3: to one score games in a row.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's not an accident, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Let alone the Rogers and Cams and guys that have

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Speaker 3: understand what it takes to win in this league. And

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Speaker 3: Tomlin's really good at that too, And I think that

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Speaker 3: they overcame some major deficiencies to play to make plays

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Speaker 3: at the most opportune times, both sides of the ball

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Speaker 3: and especially on special teams. And that's why you won.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm down and down out. I didn't think

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Speaker 3: they were the better team.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair to say. Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: do my reat day. I'm gonna do my rewatch tonight.

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Speaker 2: And I was thinking maybe tomorrow we could unveil like

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Speaker 2: a new segment, maybe like a Tuesday rewind or something

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Speaker 2: like that, where we bring up something that we didn't

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Speaker 2: discuss on Monday that we noticed from our rewatch. What's

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Speaker 2: that's so crazy to me? Is? I mean, hey, I

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Speaker 2: was thinking driving in here, like it's been a long

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Speaker 2: time since we saw the Steelers offense win a game.

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Speaker 2: But that's not technically true, because they did last year

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Speaker 4: True.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they scored forty two points in the defense

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Speaker 2: of that game. If I'm remembering correctly. The offense won

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Speaker 4: That's happened often in the last five years or so.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, right, And I think if I would have

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Speaker 2: before the game, the Steelers are gonna have twenty two

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Speaker 2: rush yards on ten attempts at the half. Ugh, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna have twenty two yards on the ground, averaging two

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Speaker 2: of that game. I think we would have both said,

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Speaker 2: even if Aaron Rodgers plays great, it's not gonna be

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not the superman that's gonna throw four touchs.

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Speaker 2: That's the most impressive part of the offense winning the

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Speaker 2: game to me, yes, is that they still had nothing

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Speaker 3: And frankly, I thought their protection was terrible too, not

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Speaker 3: very good. I mean, if you've coupled that, I'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: they lost thirty to nothing, you know, like they can't

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Speaker 3: protect you know, Quinn Williams the other those two first

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Speaker 3: I give credit to Rogers and Arthur Smith matching their

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Speaker 3: we don't know exactly what we're getting from his defense.

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Speaker 3: We know they have some good players. Sauce the Williams brothers,

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Speaker 3: those two edge guys. We note this a defensive minded

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Speaker 3: head coach who's aggressive, and they obviously had a game

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Speaker 3: plan like any game going in, but you didn't have

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Speaker 3: to improv on the fly. And there were some themes

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Speaker 3: they couldn't run the ball at all. And then let's

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Speaker 3: say they gave up trying, but they didn't just keep

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Speaker 3: pounding their head against the rock either. I know Metcalf

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Speaker 3: had a really good day, but they rarely threw its sauce.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Metcalf had most of his production when it

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Speaker 3: be honest with you, So why would you Why test

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Speaker 3: their best, dude when there's a noticeable drop off? To me,

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Speaker 3: one of the most important things or telling things from

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Speaker 3: the passing game though, and people are going to take

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Speaker 3: and they still made it work really well. Rogers didn't

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Speaker 3: average depth of target was remarkably low. Ball came out

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Speaker 3: They threw a lot of screens, some of them worked,

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Speaker 3: some didn't. They had one hundred and seventy one yards

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Speaker 3: but we've talked about how sacks are as much a

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Speaker 3: Is as much a quarterback stat as having tyreek and

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Speaker 4: You gotta hit him in.

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Speaker 3: The ball's got to be there on time, throw them over,

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Speaker 4: So that stuff was wonderful.

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't we're just gonna drop back and sling

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get it out.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna nickel and dimia, we're gonna let our guys

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Speaker 3: make plays after the catch, and we're gonna avoid sauce

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna avoid their pass rushers because we're not

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Speaker 3: handling those things very well and we're not running the

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Speaker 2: That to me is promising it's promising.

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Speaker 4: I think some of it. I wish they could.

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Speaker 2: It's promising if they improve in the in the deficient areas.

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Speaker 4: To still get a W out of that is promise.

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Speaker 2: And score over thirty points right right.

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Speaker 4: And it wasn't a thirteen and nine game, it was it.

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Speaker 2: Was on bral week. You just had to do that

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Speaker 2: one too. I Uh, I think I think that's spot

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Speaker 2: on that that passing chart is weird to look at,

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Speaker 2: isn't It is weird because you could see good one.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen it go in the thousand years.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think I think it's exciting

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Speaker 2: because there's a lot of middle of the field stuff,

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Speaker 2: which haven't we been screaming about in this town for

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Speaker 2: the length of a presidential election. I mean, it's like

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Speaker 2: Way and man, they've just had a knack for doing that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's flukey, you know, it's not. It's part of their DNA.

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Speaker 3: Usually it's like, oh, they won in the margins with

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Speaker 4: Well, this exactly right.

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Speaker 2: He certainly was. He certainly was. Let's talk about all

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Speaker 2: on that Week one victory against the Jets. Westeler Matt

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here on a victory Monday, as

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Speaker 2: He's here, He's there, He's everywhere, Matt doing a million

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Speaker 2: Rob king what's up, Kinger?

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Speaker 5: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Guys? How are you? Man? Couldn't be better?

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Speaker 2: Little victory?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a good segment.

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Speaker 2: Week all right, sounds good. Thanks for your time, Rob.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you against Seattle. Kinger. Let's let's dive right

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a wow. I mean I think he and

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Speaker 5: You had to look at that and say that was impressive.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned often just now you know you could see it.

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Speaker 5: what we've seen at practice over on the South Side

439
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Speaker 5: since they return is impressive. He just makes rows other

440
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Speaker 5: people can't.

441
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Speaker 2: Kinger, I think two weeks ago, I think it was

442
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Speaker 2: I filled in for Max on Your Guys show in

443
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Speaker 2: the locker Room and did two hours of Stiller's talk

444
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 2: with you, and we spent some time, like it feels

445
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: like everybody did leading up to this season, talking about

446
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Speaker 2: the Steelers wide receiver options behind DK Metcalf. Do they

447
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: need to acquire somebody else, Do they need a true

448
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: number two? Do they just need another piece? Do you

449
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: believe in Calvin Austin and Roman Wilson and Scottie Miller

450
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: and all those other guys. I think we laid it

451
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: out like are you calm, Are you concerned? Are you worried?

452
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 2: Are you panicked about the Steelers number two wide receiver.

453
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: I think you and I were both maybe on the concerned,

454
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: not panicked, not worried, not calm. I think we said concerned.

455
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 2: I tell you what one game in. But Calvin Austin

456
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Speaker 2: I think starting to alleviate some of those concerns with

457
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Speaker 2: the performance he had yesterday as well.

458
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Speaker 4: And King, I know John H. Smith's growing on you

459
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Speaker 4: as well.

460
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, look, you know the minute they made that trade,

461
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 5: you know, because the headline, Remember the headline of that

462
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 5: trade was, you know, Micka Fitzpatrick for Jalen Rams, And

463
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 5: you're like, oh wow, that's interesting, man. I kind of

464
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 5: like that trade for the Steelers. You know, it's a

465
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 5: cornerback league. I like micka Fitzpatrick, you'd like to have

466
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Speaker 5: them both, but give me the corner, give me the

467
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 5: elite corner. And then you feel, I'm like, whoa man,

468
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 5: We got John Smith too. I mean that, you know, again,

469
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Speaker 5: I don't know why he's and again we didn't see

470
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Speaker 5: him the preseasons. That's probably part of the reason he

471
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Speaker 5: feels it feels like he's lost in the shuffle. Guy

472
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Speaker 5: had eighty eight catches and went to the Pro Bowl

473
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Speaker 5: last year. You know, Matt, you and I, I know

474
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Speaker 5: have talked about this. He to me, he is their

475
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Speaker 5: starting slot receiver. He's gonna get the bulk of the

476
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Speaker 5: work there. He can also play tight end, you can

477
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Speaker 5: line up as an h back. I believe that dk

478
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Speaker 5: Metcalf is going to get targets every game. I believe

479
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 5: Johona Smith is gonna get targets every game, and then

480
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Speaker 5: west as far as the rest of the receiving corps goes.

481
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Speaker 5: And you and I have discussed this, and Matt and

482
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Speaker 5: I have discussed this. You know, the number one reason

483
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Speaker 5: to me you want a number two receiver on this

484
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Speaker 5: team is it because you need a number two receiver

485
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Speaker 5: game in a game out a pro you know, a

486
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Speaker 5: Brandon Ayuk or the kind of guy that they were, uh,

487
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 5: you know, in the running for last year when you

488
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Speaker 5: had Pickens. It's if something happens, and we saw it

489
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Speaker 5: last year when Pickens got hurt. That was at the

490
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Speaker 5: very beginning of that stretch in which the Steelers went

491
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Speaker 5: on own four down there down the stretch and everyone

492
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 5: remembers the running game and the ball being you know,

493
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Speaker 5: run down the Steelers roads, and we get that. But

494
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Speaker 5: you know, Pickens was a big loss to me. I

495
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Speaker 5: think they're a little bit better. I think they're a

496
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Speaker 5: little more capable of standing that loss. I still think

497
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Speaker 5: it would be a you know, something that would be

498
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Speaker 5: hard to overcome if you have an injury to your

499
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Speaker 5: number one receiver. I think most teams could say that

500
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Speaker 5: your number one guy goes out, you're not going to

501
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 5: be the same. You're gonna have problems. I also think

502
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Speaker 5: it's going to be an ensemble effort. So this week,

503
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Speaker 5: Matt and I are discussing this briefly. This week you

504
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Speaker 5: go to Seattle, they got Witherspoon, They've got a much

505
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 5: better defensive backfield. Maybe this week running backs don't combine

506
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 5: for five catches, Maybe they combined for twelve catches. Maybe

507
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 5: you're tight end Arnel Washington has four catches for sixty yards.

508
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Speaker 5: You know, I just think that there's enough there, There

509
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 5: are enough options, and there is a good enough a

510
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 5: very good offensive coordinator, and Arthur Smith and a very

511
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 5: obviously not just talented, but a stute quarterback. Clearly in

512
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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers who can exploit those things. Somewhere along the line,

513
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Speaker 5: they've got enough different players and enough diversity of players.

514
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Speaker 5: That's somewhere in there. I think gaming and game out, Yes,

515
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 5: Metcalf's going to get his targets. Yes, John Who's going

516
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 5: to get his targets. The number three hero may change

517
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 5: from week to week, The number four hero may change

518
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 5: from week to week, and in fact, I anticipate that

519
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 5: it will change week to week for this Steelers.

520
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Speaker 3: And I think a lot of it has to do

521
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Speaker 3: with the quarterback as much as the roster construction and

522
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator.

523
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Speaker 5: Agreed agree, He's a big component of it.

524
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Speaker 2: I totally agree that kinger bigger concern as we stand

525
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Speaker 2: here today, and obviously it is week one. A lot

526
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Speaker 2: of teams will get better, a lot of teams won't

527
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Speaker 2: look as good as they did. The first week of

528
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Speaker 2: the season. Is the biggest overreaction Monday of the NFL year. Now,

529
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Speaker 2: prefacing all of that, what's the bigger concern to you

530
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Speaker 2: here on Monday after Week one for the Steelers The

531
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Speaker 2: run game for the offense or the run game defense

532
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Speaker 2: and the lack of success that we saw in both

533
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Speaker 2: of those departments Sunday afternoon.

534
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'll even add to that protecting the passer,

535
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Speaker 5: because I think that, you know, when you're shifting around

536
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 5: offensive tackles, that's that's a concern too. That would be

537
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Speaker 5: up there on my list. If you're asking me to

538
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Speaker 5: be concerned, I think I would probably say the run defense.

539
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Speaker 5: But I'll also say this, like, you know, so two things.

540
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Speaker 5: I'm heading my bet here a little bit. But two things.

541
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Speaker 5: You remember last year the Ravens in the middle of

542
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Speaker 5: the season, we were horrible. They were terrible defensively. They

543
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Speaker 5: made a couple of moves. They moved Hamilton back to

544
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Speaker 5: safety and left them there. They stopped roaming him around

545
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Speaker 5: the field. They put Malie Harrison into the starting lineup

546
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Speaker 5: and got a new guy running the defense, right, and

547
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Speaker 5: then the talk of how bad the defense was really

548
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 5: went away. So, you know, I don't think, you know,

549
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Speaker 5: week one or week two is going to tell the

550
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Speaker 5: story of seventeen games in eighteen weeks. I just don't

551
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Speaker 5: think it is. I think the most important thing you

552
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 5: can do this time of year is just win. I

553
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 5: don't care if you win three to two. I don't

554
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Speaker 5: care if you win one hundred and ninety nine. It

555
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Speaker 5: doesn't matter. Just find a way to win and hopefully build.

556
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Speaker 5: Now the stopping to run that's fresh in our minds,

557
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Speaker 5: right because of what happened at the end of last year,

558
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Speaker 5: especially in the playoff loss to Baltimore, and then to

559
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Speaker 5: see a team come out and do that again, it

560
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: can be discouraging, right, But they're not going to run

561
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Speaker 5: into a team like this again. They're not going to

562
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Speaker 5: run into a team schematically or what have you that's

563
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Speaker 5: going to try to run the ball like this. Now,

564
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Speaker 5: if next week we're having the same discussion because Kenneth

565
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Speaker 5: Walker and Zach Sharboney just ran for one hundred and

566
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Speaker 5: seventy on you, then we might be having a slightly

567
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Speaker 5: different conversation. I think think that this is this is

568
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 5: more of a team that in Seattle that the Steelers

569
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 5: will have earlier success on. I think they'll be better

570
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 5: and better, hopefully against the teams like Baltimore as Cam

571
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Speaker 5: gets himself ramped up into perfect shape and becomes that

572
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Speaker 5: all pro guy, as Derek Harmon, your first round pick. Again,

573
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Speaker 5: there's reasons you select guys in the first round. You

574
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 5: expect them to make an impact. When guys like that

575
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Speaker 5: get more into the fold. I think they'll get better

576
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 5: against teams like this. But look, they've got weapons on

577
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Speaker 5: the outside. They've got Jackson Smith and Jigba and Cooper Cup. Well,

578
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 5: that's why you've got three corners, and that's why you

579
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Speaker 5: went out and got guys in the defensive line to

580
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Speaker 5: be able to stop a team that's balanced, wants to

581
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 5: run the ball, wants to throw the ball. But if again,

582
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Speaker 5: if we're having some of these what are your concern

583
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 5: conversations again next week? Because those guys ran for one

584
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 5: seventy five, that would be a bigger concern to me.

585
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 5: But if you're gonna ask me, if I have to

586
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 5: answer it, I would say probably. I did not expect

587
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Speaker 5: to see the Jets. I expected the jest to have

588
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 5: some success. I did not expect them to be able

589
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 5: to run like that against the Steelers. That surprised me.

590
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think either one of us did either,

591
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Speaker 3: And we haven't brought it up yet in the show.

592
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: But if there's four aspects of big people play in football,

593
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: you know, run, blocking, run defense, pass protection, pass rush.

594
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Speaker 3: You kind of alluded to this. I think they lost

595
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: three of those four, and I know the Steelers' sack

596
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 3: numbers weren't there. But I thought they rushed the passer

597
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: well and just had a hard time putting justin fields

598
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: on the ground behind the line of scrimmage. But the

599
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: other three were losses to me, and you still managed

600
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Speaker 3: to find a way to win.

601
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know what, if you really wanted to

602
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 5: be harsh, you knows, as Clint Hurdle once said about baseball,

603
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 5: and it's the same thing in any professional sport. This

604
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 5: is a This is not a try hard league. This

605
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: is a do good league. And you know, so you

606
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 5: could say, yeah, they got pressure on fields, but ultimately

607
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 5: they only got them down once. So you could even

608
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: be harsh enough and say, you know, you didn't do

609
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 5: what you wanted to do in all four of those areas. Yeah,

610
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 5: and I was surprised again. I was surprised that, look,

611
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Speaker 5: the Jets. The Jets have number one picks in the

612
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Speaker 5: offensive line, high number one picks. You know, they fashion

613
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Speaker 5: new and Membu went early eleventh and seventh. I think overall,

614
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 5: this isn't an offensive tackle. You took twenty eighth and

615
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 5: hope you can develop. These are guys you're expecting to

616
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Speaker 5: come in and be instant dominators and even without Vera Tucker,

617
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Speaker 5: and that's a big loss for them. You know, they've

618
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Speaker 5: got a running quarterback, a good stable of running backs,

619
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Speaker 5: a physical offensive line, a desire to play a certain way.

620
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Speaker 5: We saw them in the preseason third and six. Here

621
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Speaker 5: you go, Brydon Allen. Yesterday we saw a third and

622
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Speaker 5: eight run. They are establishing an identity. Having said that,

623
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Speaker 5: you know, look, you went out in the offseason and

624
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 5: overhauled your defensive You knew this was what they were

625
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 5: going to do, and it was you know, that aspect

626
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 5: of the game didn't turn out the way you want it.

627
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Speaker 5: And so the good news, you know, there's room for improvement,

628
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Speaker 5: and the good news is there's seventeen weeks to do it.

629
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Speaker 5: So that's That's kind of the way I look at

630
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 5: these early games. You know, as long as you win,

631
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Speaker 5: you still have the time, and I think the Steelers

632
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 5: also have the talent to be able to get better.

633
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Speaker 2: Well. One of those talented pieces, certainly Jalen Ramsey, kinger

634
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: the attitude, the edge, drawing a penalty, making the big

635
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: play at the end of the game. I tell you

636
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: what I think, Jalen Ramsey is quickly quickly going to

637
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: rise up the list of Steelers fans favorite players. For

638
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: another guy who hey, he got more preseason action than

639
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. That didn't take much. Aaron Rodgers got none.

640
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: But for a guy who barely got any preseason action,

641
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: for a guy that got a lot of rest days.

642
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: I don't even know if you want to call him

643
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: rest days, but just ay, let's keep him in bubble wrap.

644
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: We don't need to see anymore days. Yeah.

645
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: I think it got to that point in camp.

646
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: We know he's so good to see that immediately translate

647
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: week one with his new team, with his new defense

648
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: man king Er. That's exciting, a very exciting starting point

649
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: and where Jalen Ramsey can go from there.

650
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Speaker 5: You know. Andy Widel had his press conference before the

651
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Speaker 5: preseason game. Seems like that's an annual occurrence now, and

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Speaker 5: he first of all, I introduced Jalen Ramsey uh the

653
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Speaker 5: discussion of Jalen Ramsey by calling him a future Hall

654
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Speaker 5: of Famer uh. And then I I don't want to

655
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Speaker 5: put words in his mouth. It was here Mike tomlin Us.

656
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Speaker 5: I think they use the word violent, like, you know,

657
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 5: this is the guy, this is not a guy coming

658
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: up just to try to wrestle you to to the ground.

659
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 5: This is the guy that wants to you know, inflict uh,

660
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 5: you know, pain to you as he tackles you. I mean,

661
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 5: that's the kind of player he is. And I do

662
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 5: believe I think he's a tone setter, you know. I look,

663
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: he's had uh you know, he's had moments in the

664
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Speaker 5: past or maybe that's gotten away from him a little bit. Uh.

665
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Speaker 5: But you know what, as Mike Tomlin always says, I'd

666
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: rather say whoa than than sick them. You know, you

667
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: don't have to say sick him. With Jalen Ramsey, he's

668
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Speaker 5: going to sick him. And he's a he's a great player,

669
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Speaker 5: and he's you know, he's thirty years old. He didn't

670
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: make the Pro Bowl last year, but it had a

671
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 5: long run of making the Pro Bowl and being an

672
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Speaker 5: All Pro. So you know, the Steelers are hoping that

673
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 5: he's got a couple more good seasons in him. And

674
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 5: you know, he came up with the big hit at

675
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Speaker 5: the end of the game that helps steal the victory

676
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: for him, you know, and that and that's a that's

677
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 5: that's what you want your big guys to do, even

678
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: if the game doesn't always. Going back to something Matt

679
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: and I have talked about and Mike Tomlin's record in

680
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 5: close games. You know, sometimes the game doesn't go the

681
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 5: way you want it to go. But when you got

682
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Speaker 5: a Chris Boswell who can step up in big moments,

683
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 5: and Aaron Rodgers who can step up in big moments,

684
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Speaker 5: a Jalen Rams, you can step up in big moments.

685
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 5: T J. Watt, that is going to help you win

686
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: a lot of close football games. Rob.

687
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Speaker 3: The last thing I got for you was, I wasn't

688
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: shocked that Caleb Williams or Caleb Johnson. I'm sorry Caleb

689
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: Williams playing the night it didn't wasn't featured or was

690
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: barely out there at the offense. I kind of expected that,

691
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: but I didn't expect the running back usage between Gainwell

692
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: and Warren to have Gainwell out there nearly as much

693
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Speaker 3: as he was.

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00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: Did that take you back at all?

695
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

696
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 5: This was a question posed to me by by locker

697
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 5: room cub reporter usually unattributed Schafer King, my son I

698
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: was talking about. He asked me the same thing, and

699
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 5: I said, you know, I really think, first of all,

700
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 5: I think they really like Kenneth Gainwell but yeah, and

701
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be their third down back,

702
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 5: even though Jaalen Warren, I think is an excellent third

703
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 5: down back. I just think that that was I think

704
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 5: it was largely dictated by the game. There might have

705
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 5: been some packages they wanted to get into early with

706
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 5: Kenneth game well, that sort of thing, but I think

707
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 5: a lot of it was the Steelers. Let's let's not forget.

708
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 5: They were chasing the game for most of the game,

709
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 5: and I think games rare.

710
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Speaker 4: To fourteen points wins either right, right, this.

711
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 5: Wasn't and this wasn't. Hey, you were out in front

712
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 5: ten nothing and they were chasing you. I think if

713
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 5: it had, if that had happened, my guess is that

714
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: we would have seen more of Jalen Warre. So was

715
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 5: I surprised by it? I mean probably, you know, if

716
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Speaker 5: you told me that before the game, I'd have probably

717
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 5: raised an eyebrow. But I think that given the way

718
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Speaker 5: the game went, I'm not totally shocked that that's the

719
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Speaker 5: way the carries win.

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Speaker 2: Rob King, voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers, kind enough to

721
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Speaker 2: give us some of his time here on this victory Monday,

722
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Speaker 2: King or thanks partner, and we'll talk to you soon.

723
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Speaker 5: Thanks, guys, appreciate it.

724
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Speaker 2: There he is the savant rob king good stuff, good

725
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: game to game to get going for him.

726
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Speaker 4: I bet this was a fun one to call it

727
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 4: to him.

728
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: I could.

729
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I said this on a different show that

730
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: we all have skin in the game, as do the

731
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: Jets fans and the Jets you know, media folks, and

732
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: of course all the coaches and players obviously, but other

733
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Speaker 3: than last night's Ravens Bills game, this might have been

734
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: his entertaining of a game. You know, if you're a

735
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: Bears fan, if you're a Rams fan, like, just sit

736
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: back and watch it. I mean, this had to be

737
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: seven lead changes and you know, a sixty yarder you know,

738
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: right right, the quarterback thing going back and forth of

739
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: their former teams, like this was about as entertaining of

740
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: a game as you're gonna get.

741
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: First five possessions combined for these teams resulted in points. Yeah,

742
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: just one punt in the first half.

743
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

744
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 2: I mean, the number one thing you want your team

745
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: to do is win, of course, the number to check

746
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: that box. The number two thing you want them to

747
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: do is entertain.

748
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 4: You know, as a fan, right when you're right.

749
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: Well, as a fan, one doesn't look at it that way.

750
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: And like people like us and Rob, you know, like

751
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: it's one thing. It's one thing to win boringly, Okay, fine,

752
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: but when those over the year, yes, you lose boringly,

753
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: that's the worst possible combination. The best is to win

754
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: and to do so in very entertaining fashion.

755
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: Many, I mean many podcasts I listened to in preview

756
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 3: shows were like, man, this is the game I'm looking

757
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: forward to, maybe least like I'm gonna watch it because

758
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: it's the NFL.

759
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: Took away the quarterback storyline.

760
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah right, it's like this is the lowest point over under.

761
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 4: You know, it's not.

762
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: These two teams have not been the most entertaining from

763
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: an outsider's perspective over the last few years. Yeah, I watch,

764
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: it's NFL. It's Week one, but there's a total opposite. Yeah,

765
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: maybe both these teams are doing things differently. I was

766
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: really impressed with the Jets.

767
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: I was too. Yeah, I mean I think.

768
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: They may find a coach, maybe they found a quarterback.

769
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.

770
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: It's always week one. Things things can change, you know. Yeah,

771
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: if they win seven or eight games at divisions not

772
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 2: other than Buffalo. That division's not very good either.

773
00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: Miami was terrible.

774
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: You're right, and I ju and I get that one

775
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: wrong on our on our one Friday. Yeah, I think

776
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: we did pretty good other than that one, but.

777
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: I was horrible.

778
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody saw that. You ready for the statistic,

779
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: you might have seen it. The Colts scored on every

780
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: single one of their possessions in that game.

781
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 4: I know, Daniel Jones is like remarkable. Everything never happened.

782
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: Single possession the Colts had, they scored, first time that's

783
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: happened in a NFL game since nineteen seventy eight.

784
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

785
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: Wow, every single possession they scored a touchdown or a field.

786
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: And I know exactly think the Coults are gonna go

787
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 3: seventeen And oh, I think that was probably a Miami thing.

788
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: Crazy crazy. We have got plenty to get to into

789
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: more thoughts from the Steelers victory over the Jets when

790
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: we return, we will do some around the league stuff.

791
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: An hour number two obviously plenty going on today here

792
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: on a victory Monday West Uler, Matt Williamson, it's the

793
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

794
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: You were two weeks about drive on your twenty four

795
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: to seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

796
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: It's back on the drive here reacting to the Steelers

797
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: victory at MetLife Stadium. My first time there at that one, Matt.

798
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: Still a few of the old barns, the old stadiums

799
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: that I got to cross off the list. I've been

800
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: traveling for, you know, for a few years now with

801
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: the team and all that, my game day responsibilities. But

802
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: first time there at MetLife huge. I mean the place

803
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: is massive. It is in the middle of nowhere.

804
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: I knew that.

805
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean it's in the middle of nowhere. I thought

806
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: it was fine. I think it gets a bad rap

807
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: because it's not so far or it's not it's not

808
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: a Legion in Vegas, Mercedes Benz in Atlanta. Those are

809
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: kind of like the three.

810
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: Like some people, some some stadiums have raised.

811
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: The bar Krim day La Krem, Yes, a little bit.

812
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 4: Buffalo be awesome.

813
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: Buffaloes sounds pretty cool. There's there is a small part

814
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: of me that's hoping it. I think my ideal scenario

815
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: if the Steelers don't end up winning the division is

816
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: we go to like Houston for the wild card round

817
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: of the playoffs, or heck, I know I'm getting way

818
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: to talk about week one over reactions. Maybe the Chargers

819
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: win the West, right, and we got and we go

820
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: out to l A and and in January there on

821
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: the road, win a road game like one of those

822
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: those type of games. Or I guess it could even

823
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: be a home game. Steelers win the division, win a

824
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: home game.

825
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: Hey they're sitting one, and oh, aren't you know half

826
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: the divisions one to one's half one?

827
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: And we'll talk about that in just a few There

828
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: is a small part of me when I was watching

829
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: that Bills game last night, in the atmosphere during the

830
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: game and particularly when they came back and everything, there's

831
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: a small part of me that hopes the Steelers end

832
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: up in like a divisional round game in Buffalo this year.

833
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: That the environment there is unbelievable. We were there two

834
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: years ago for that playoff game, that Mason Rudolph playoff game.

835
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: It was it's like a It's like it's the closest

836
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: thing the NFL has to a college stadium. It's old,

837
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: it's dumpy. People are not huge city people are. It's

838
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: it's almost like a college town. It's like in the

839
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: middle of people just park in the grass and in

840
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: the in the best by parking lot and tailgate. You know,

841
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: like every space of grass and asphalt turns into tailgating

842
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: lots on those eight or nine home day games a year.

843
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: Nobody goes to the Buffalo Bills games for like a

844
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: nice night out, to sit in the suite and post

845
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: pictures on their Instagram. They're there to scream and yell

846
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: exactly right and watch football. And so yeah, I mean,

847
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: I know we'll we'll talk more about this when we

848
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: when we get into around the league. But I think

849
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: that the backdrop of the Steelers getting a win and

850
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: moving to one and zero when pretty close to I mean,

851
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: other than Buffalo, like all the other division favorites, if

852
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: you will, around the afrec lost their opening game.

853
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're looking big picture and in

854
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: a seventeen game schedule, you have to it's not like

855
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: the Pirates or one to oh oh or set you know.

856
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it's a big difference. But things went

857
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 3: pretty well for the Steelers outside of the game that

858
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: happened that they were evolved in.

859
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: Yes, and outside of I think potentially this is another

860
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: thing that you and I talked about when we kind

861
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: of did some concerns conversations heading into the regular season.

862
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: I'm I'm hoping we get better news than I expect

863
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: on Deshaun Elliott.

864
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one ruled out quickly. Knee didn't like the

865
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: sound of that. Tomorrow's show will be I'm sure on

866
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 3: top of that, I would think would have that news

867
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: by then. I don't know what the Harrison situation is,

868
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: but with her big Harrison played some outside and some

869
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Speaker 3: inside linebacker. I like that he's Steeler, but you.

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Speaker 4: Can move on without him. I mean, that's not the

871
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Speaker 4: end of the world.

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Speaker 3: Porter was what hamstring tightness, So that sounded kind of

873
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Speaker 3: like it's the week one similar to cramp.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Shape, and again they're so loaded at receipt a corner.

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Speaker 3: I mean I was on a different show and said,

877
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Speaker 3: if brand Echols, who played well against his own old team, is.

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Speaker 4: Your fourth corner.

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Speaker 3: They even had a fourth corner like that since the seventies,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, they're always light at corner,

881
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Speaker 3: let alone depth. I mean, if that's your fourth guy

882
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Speaker 3: at that position, you're in great.

883
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Speaker 2: Shape, great shape, whereas safety might be a little bit different.

884
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: Feeling a little bit thinner amongst that group, and Deshaun

885
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Speaker 2: Ellie at that that.

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Speaker 4: Clark was a good contributor.

887
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Speaker 3: But I also bet and we'll never know this answer,

888
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Speaker 3: and I'd have to really study it, when when he

889
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Speaker 3: got injured that early, did that change the Ramsey deployment.

890
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure it did add to it had to it. Absolutely,

891
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Speaker 3: he was.

892
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: Going to follow Wilson all day. You never got to

893
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 4: see it, you know.

894
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Speaker 2: And along those lines, I think we saw probably a

895
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Speaker 2: lot more of Jack Sawyer than they planned on ahead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was.

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked at the exact snap count numbers. We'll

898
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Speaker 2: get into some of that stuff is the week as

899
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Speaker 2: the week rolls along. But man, I thought he was

900
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Speaker 2: out there a lot more than I expected, and Roman

901
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Speaker 2: Wilson was out there a lot less. The tended ten snaps.

902
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Speaker 3: So there's some some of the offensive stuff I have

903
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: dug into the snap count that it was Metcalf and

904
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Speaker 3: it was Austin and no other receiver played more than ten.

905
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Speaker 3: So Wilson was one of several that were like ten

906
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Speaker 3: and nine. But it was those two or more basically

907
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Speaker 3: ninety percenters.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Ronic scored that opening drive touchdown yeah, and then I

910
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Speaker 2: don't think how to target the rest of the game.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think so either.

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Speaker 3: And a couple notes there. First off, they scored it

913
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Speaker 3: open touchdown, yay. Five guys caught passes on that drive

914
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Speaker 3: right off the bat. You know, when we're talking about

915
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Speaker 3: scripted stuff and spreading it around, was really.

916
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Speaker 2: Defense is going to deploy different situations.

917
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Speaker 3: And I also Mike pursued on a different show, I

918
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Speaker 3: just finished you and mentioned we're talking about Roman Wilson.

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Speaker 3: He said, yeah, he was only out there ten snaps.

920
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Speaker 3: But when it was the last drive and they were

921
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Speaker 3: in three wide and they needed to throw, and the

922
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Speaker 3: run game was an afterthought and Scroni's the blocker, Wilson's not,

923
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Speaker 3: it was Wilson out there. So I don't know that

924
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Speaker 3: it was an indictment. We don't like Wilson. He's only

925
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Speaker 3: playing ten snaps like Miller and Scornic and those guys.

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Speaker 3: But because when we needed to throw, that's the guys

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Speaker 3: that we wanted to use, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's a great that's a great point by you. He was.

929
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Speaker 2: That was one of the things, like I I try

930
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Speaker 2: and help Rob and Max. I sit right behind them

931
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Speaker 2: during the game, and as you know, like they have

932
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Speaker 2: very specific detailed things that they're watching four on each snaps.

933
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they can call the game. It's not the

934
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Speaker 2: same as just sitting there and watching it and taking

935
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Speaker 2: it all in, right, So I try and kind of

936
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Speaker 2: you know, get some some different nuggets and things that

937
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: you can notice and stuff like that that might not

938
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Speaker 2: be forefront ball carrier tackler every single play.

939
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Speaker 4: Yeah, stuff they have to construe to the audience.

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Speaker 2: And then like early into the third quarter, like we

941
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Speaker 2: went to break and like I tapped Max on the

942
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Speaker 2: shoulder and I was like, is it just me or

943
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Speaker 2: have we barely seen Roman Wilson And he was like

944
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Speaker 2: he's like I had that hadn't even really clicked with me.

945
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Speaker 2: But then at the end of the game he kind

946
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Speaker 2: of turned around and was like, you see ten, Ten's

947
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: out there now, like when it matters so in time, right.

948
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Speaker 2: I think that's a good sign for him. He's in

949
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Speaker 2: the macro and the bass three.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a really good sign for Austin.

951
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Speaker 3: I mean they've been telling us he's the two. I mean,

952
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: the wide receiver coach said he's well, he's our number two. Well,

953
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Speaker 3: he is the number two. I mean, that's very obvious.

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Speaker 2: He said that back in June.

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Speaker 4: But I think Wilson is the three. When it's time to.

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Speaker 2: Throw agreed, agreed hour in the books, another hour to go,

957
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Speaker 2: we'll have more on the victory over the Jets. We

958
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Speaker 2: will start our number two though, taking a look around

959
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: the league. If you thought that that Colts sat listen,

960
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 2: Matt's the stats guy. Matt's the analytics guy, all right,

961
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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that I can't, you know, bring

962
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Speaker 2: some bring some numbers and some things to the fourfold

963
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Speaker 2: from time to time too. You thought that that Colt's

964
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Speaker 2: stat about first team to score on all their possessions

965
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Speaker 2: since the late seventies was wild, I've got a Bengals

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Speaker 2: number that might even be crazier. When we get into

967
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Speaker 2: that pretty cookie game, the very kooky game, Yeah, seventeen sixteen.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the game that a lot of people

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Speaker 2: expected the Steelers and the Jets to play that ended

970
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: up playing out there in Ohio. We'll get to everything

971
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Speaker 2: around the AFC North, everything that happened in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We've got an exciting Monday night game to preview tonight

973
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Speaker 2: as well, plenty to get to as we roll along

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Speaker 2: an hour. Number two West Hueler and Matt Williamson, It's

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio

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Speaker 2: Network