1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hello America. At Speeder Schweitzer and Eric Eggers. We are 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: filling in for Sean. We run the Government Accountability Institute. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: You can find out more about it at GAI dot news. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: We want you to join the conversation at one eight 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: hundred ninety four one seven three two six. That's one 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: eight hundred ninet four to one. Sean, we are watching 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: the unfolding chaos in the White House. Who will be 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: the Democratic nominee for president in twenty twenty four. Eric 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: and I have been talking about the fallout and the 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: media coverage, but how would it actually happen if the 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Democrats were to replace Joe Biden. If Joe Biden said tomorrow, 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: I've decided to step down, what are the mechanics of it? Fortunately, 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: we have a couple of actual experts who live and 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: breathe this stuff. John McLaughlin and Jim McLaughlin. They run 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: McLaughlin and Associates. They have elected, They've been strategists that 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: have help elect presidents, prime ministers, Senate Majority Leader, Speakers 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: of the House. So we are very happy to be 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: there and Sean, John also, I think is very pleased 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: that you are here on time. 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: So thanks for joining us. 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: This is Jim. I'm the one who's always late. 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: Oh, Jim's the one that's always late. Okay, I was misinformed. 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 4: This is why we employ a fact checker, by the way, and. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: Let me tell you Eric and Peter are the two 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: best fact checkers on the planet. 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 5: As we all know. 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,279 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, guys. 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: So so let's get into this and we'll start with 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: you John first. So help us out if in the 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: scenario where Joe Biden says, okay, you know, I'm not 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: up to the job anymore, he's stepping down, or remains 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: as president, but he's stepping down, what are the actual 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: mechanics of what the Democrats would have to do to 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: put in a candidate. Is there a time when a date, 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: a period in time when it becomes really difficult to 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: do that? I mean, presumably he couldn't decide this in October. 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: Very easily walk us through what the steps are for 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: them to make this change if they do make the change. 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, he right now, he's not making 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 6: the change. I mean, yeah, you know, without it there 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 6: even just before we're speaking right now, there was a 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 6: conference call with the staff or a meeting of the 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 6: staff and at the Layhouse, and both President Biden and 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 6: Vice President Harris were on that call. So so it's 45 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 6: like Joe Biden's not letting go by the way for 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 6: a lot of the reasons you put together in your 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 6: book Blood Money. They're not letting go of any of 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 6: this stuff because there's too much peril for the Biden 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 6: family business. And you know, Hunter himself is in the 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 6: system right now where he's been convicted on one trial 51 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 6: of gun possession or whatever, and then he's headed for 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 6: one on taxes in September. So the last thing they 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 6: need is somebody else in control of the Justice Department. 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 6: But so if for some reason Joe Biden said he 55 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 6: was going to step aside, you've got He's got three. 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 6: They earned ninety four pledged delegates out of the three thousand, 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 6: nine hundred and thirty seven that or going to the 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 6: DNC convention on August nineteenth in Chicago. He doesn't have 59 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 6: the super delegates because they're not pledged, but they're out there. 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 6: It's only seven hundred and forty seven of them. He 61 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 6: could open up the convention if he dropped out tomorrow 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 6: before the convention and they become unbound, and then it's 63 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 6: up to the back room bosses and effect that at 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 6: the Democrat convention to decide if he decides to wait 65 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 6: and you know, wait till after the convention let all 66 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 6: the because there's been talk about, because of some election 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 6: law problem in Ohio that they might have to have 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 6: a virtual convention before Chicago and approve of Joe Biden 69 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 6: so they can have him on the ballot in Ohio. 70 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 6: They could lose there. But if they wait till after that, 71 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 6: it's up to the four hundred and eighty three members 72 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: of the Democrat National Committee, and maybe you have to 73 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 6: go back to like you know, remember Jordan McGovern had 74 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 6: Tom Eagleton, they had to you know, after they came 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 6: out he had shot treatment all of sudden, they had 76 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 6: to replace the vice president candidate with Sargeant Shriver. 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: So whether you do it. 78 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 6: With the bosses in Chicago, or you do it with 79 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 6: the bosses after Chicago, it would be an inside thing. 80 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 6: In the primary, voters in the Democratic Party den't matter, 81 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 6: so that would be their process. But right now they're all, 82 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 6: you know, committed to Joe Biden, and Joe Biden is 83 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 6: not letting go. And you know what I find ironic 84 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 6: about the whole thing is, you know, they've all seen 85 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 6: his age and him getting older and you know, more feeble, 86 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 6: but they covered it up. And the reason they're behind 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 6: in the polls isn't because he's old. It's because his 88 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 6: policies for three and a half years have failed, whether 89 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 6: it's inflation, open borders, endless wars, crime around the United States. 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 6: That's why he's failing. And all the Democrats that are 91 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 6: talking about replacing him have all aided and embedded and 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 6: con you know, are committed to that, particularly Vice President Harris. 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 6: So you know, unless the Democrats decide we reject these 94 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 6: radical policies, they're going to lose to President Trump. And 95 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 6: that's why Trump's ahead in the puls. 96 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 7: We're talking to political strategist John McLoughlin and Jim McLoughlin. 97 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 7: Jim take us inside the numbers that they're looking at 98 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 7: in the White House and I think elsewhere and some 99 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 7: of the reasons why these Democrat power brokers are calling 100 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 7: for a change, I think it's because of the polling 101 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 7: numbers and radical agenda aside. Talk to us about where 102 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 7: Joe Biden is relative to Kamala Harris and if it's 103 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 7: not either them from a political viability standpoint, where else 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 7: would they look like? Is Gretchen Whitmer better? Is Gavin 105 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 7: Newsom better? 106 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a great question. And look, the Democrats, 107 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: it's all about power with them. You guys know this. 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: You guys have done all the research on this, by hooker, 109 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: by crook. They want to remain in power. And when 110 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 3: Joe Biden was the candidate they thought was best to 111 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: beat Donald Trump, they rigged the election. They rigged it. 112 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: You know, they basically, you know, you had Dean Phillips 113 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: and you had Robert F. Kennedy Junior, two legitimate candidates 114 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: that were trying to run a primary against them, and 115 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: what did they do. They basically closed them out of 116 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 3: the primary so they couldn't run. But what's happened since 117 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: then because of his dismal debate performance, and by the way, 118 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is not getting enough credit for having a 119 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: great debate performance, just on one issue after another, just. 120 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 7: And just being restrained in terms of not attacking him, 121 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 7: not being aggressive, not like making him to be sympathetic 122 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 7: by allowing just the space. 123 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's a great point. 124 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 7: He's he's been very disciplined, even now waiting to announce 125 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 7: his vice presidential candidate. He's letting this cycle continue in perpetuity. 126 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 7: He's really smart and. 127 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: By a forty six to twenty eight margin, the CBS 128 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: News poll said after the debate that voter said he 129 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: was way more presidential. But the reason why the Democrats 130 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: are having their own insurrection right now against Joe Biden 131 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: is because he's losing to Donald Trump and things are 132 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: getting worse. Donald Trump was beating him before the debate. 133 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: He's beating him in national polls, he was beating him 134 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: in the battleground polls. And now you've got New York 135 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: Times polls just came out. Donald Trump has increased his 136 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: national lead, increased his battleground lead. You look at that 137 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: CNN poll CNN of all people, they've clearly turned on 138 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. Now he has a sixty four percent disapproval 139 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: rating that is off the charts for Joe Biden. That's 140 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: at the point where Democrats across the country are going 141 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: to go down because of Joe Biden's unpopularity. Donald Trump 142 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: is beating him in that survey by ten points among independents. 143 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: And you know who, Joe Biden had his worst negatives, 144 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: his highest disapproval rating young people sixty nine percent, because 145 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: those issues that John was just talking about, like inflation, 146 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: the economy, crime and safety. They realize that when Donald 147 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: Trump was president, he did a significantly better job than 148 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. 149 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: No, those are great points. 150 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: We're talking with John and Jim mclofflin of the mclofflin Associates, 151 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: really the top firm in terms of political strategic consulting 152 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: for candidates in the United States and overseas. So you 153 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: both make, I think, a very compelling point, and you're 154 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: actually absolutely right John that Joe Biden says he's not 155 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: going anywhere. My question though, is what is the tipping point? 156 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: If Joe Biden says he's not going anywhere, and enough 157 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: of the big money in Hollywood and in you know, 158 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: big tech says you need to go, and Congressional Democrats 159 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: there's rumors that, you know, twenty five members of Congress 160 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: are going to sign a letter saying he should step down, 161 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: is there a tipping point? I mean, obviously Joe Biden 162 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: can stay there as long as he wants. I mean, 163 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: he can't be pushed out, But is there a ticking point? 164 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: Till past four PM. 165 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: But is there a tipping point where Joe Biden is 166 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to kind of pack it in because he 167 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: knows it's not viable anymore to mount a campaign because 168 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: the money's drying up. 169 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 6: Well, it might be, you know, I mentioned your book 170 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 6: Blood Money before. Maybe if some of those Hunter Biden, 171 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 6: Frank Biden, James Biden clients decide, hey, we're not going 172 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 6: to pay you anymore, you know, and then and if 173 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 6: somebody were to guarantee them a pardon, like Camill Harris, 174 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 6: if she if all of a sudden she becomes president, 175 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 6: he guarantees them a pardon, and then you know, I 176 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 6: saw some reports say, you know, two billion for the 177 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 6: Biden library and tonsds of millions for the nomination. 178 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: You know, who knows? 179 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, right now, there appears to be 180 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 6: no tipping plan. I mean, it appears to be that 181 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 6: he's got her Keem Jefferies, and he's got Chuck Schumer 182 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 6: saying let's let the poles level out and let's see 183 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 6: if he can hang on and make his case. I mean, 184 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 6: he's going to do the interview with George Stephanopolis tomorrow 185 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 6: on ABC ABC. By the way, Hip Polly, They had 186 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: a pole. He's getting buried epsoes And it's one of 187 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 6: the worst polls for President Trump because it's like the 188 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 6: panel of George Stephanoppolos's friends. They never re saying the demographics, 189 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 6: so he can't figure out race or age or anything 190 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 6: like that. But you know, these polls have been bad 191 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 6: Donald Trump. Like an Airlis poll before the debate, Trump 192 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 6: was up two points nationally. He was leading in the 193 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 6: multi candy race two points, but sixty eight percent of 194 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 6: all Americans said the country was on their own track. 195 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 6: They said the economy was getting worse, not better, sixty 196 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 6: two to thirty one. They said eighty four percent said 197 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 6: they were negatively impacted by inflation, forty nine percent to 198 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 6: the point that they couldn't afford basic necessities. So so 199 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 6: Trump basically has been beating him since September of twenty one, 200 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 6: when inflation kicked in and he surrendered in Afghanistan, because 201 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 6: that's the one thing an American president's not supposed to do. 202 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 6: You're not supposed to surrender to terrorists and leave Americans behind, 203 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 6: let alone have Americans killed. But it comestan leading in 204 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 6: the national Poulson then didn't bother the Democrats didn't bother 205 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 6: them until all of a sudden, it's like, hey, it's 206 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 6: June of twenty four and if we're. 207 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: Still losing, we might. 208 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 6: Lose in November. So the media and the Democrats are saying, 209 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 6: you know, we've got to make a change. They're like 210 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,119 Speaker 6: changing the Captain and the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. 211 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 6: They've driven the country into this iceberg and the country 212 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 6: is ready to revolt. I mean, this is like Reagan 213 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 6: and eighty after he debated Carter, and all of a 214 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 6: sudden people are like, uh, we're going to vote for Reagan. 215 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 6: And Reagan won in a landslide. But it took that 216 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 6: long here. They had to debate early. They had it 217 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 6: in June, and Trump was as you know, noticed he 218 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 6: was presidential, He was factual. His positions were better made 219 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 6: sense when he said, why are we letting illegals in 220 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 6: to pankrupt SoC security and medicare that they're called, I mean, 221 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 6: it's just to make sense to the average person. So 222 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 6: it's kind of late for the Democrats. But we'll say, Jim. 223 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 7: We've got thirty seconds before we have to take a break, 224 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 7: and we appreciate the time. John and Jim McLoughlin, the 225 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 7: political consultants and experts and understand the data and understand 226 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 7: the numbers that the political campaigns are looking at right now. 227 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 7: Is immigration still the most relevant issue or has Joe 228 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 7: Biden's cognitive ability leapfrog that is that the number one 229 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 7: issue that voters are deciding on or is it something else? 230 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 7: Is this a temporary distraction or is this actually the 231 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 7: thing that will carry the election in November. 232 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: Look, you look at all the issues that matter to 233 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: the voters right now, the immigration problem, inflation, we have 234 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: Donald Trump had peace breaking out throughout the world, now 235 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: we have war throughout the world. One of those single 236 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: issues could collapse a presidency. And Joe Biden has all 237 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: of them. And Joe Biden's biggest promise, like John said, 238 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: he could be one hundred years old. As long as 239 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: the country was doing well and people thought the country 240 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: was on the right track, he'd be okay. But what's 241 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: happened now is basically since the summer of twenty one, 242 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: when after the Afghanistan debacle and inflation was up at 243 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: nine percent, his numbers have been upside down. And when 244 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: you ask the typical American, they'll tell you things are 245 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: getting worse because of Biden's policies. They're not getting better. 246 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 7: They are not getting better, and I think that's one 247 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 7: of the reasons, more than anything else, why Democrats within 248 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 7: the party are seeking to replace the top of the ticket. 249 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 7: Jim John McLaughlin, You guys are great, Thank you for 250 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 7: joining us. We'll come back and talk about what it 251 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 7: means and take a look at more data that suggests that, hey, 252 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 7: maybe Joe Biden's got a chance of sticking around. He's 253 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 7: Peter Schweizer, I'm Eric Egar's went for Sean Handy back 254 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 7: after this. 255 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: Hi, Peter Schweizer and Eric Eggers. We are talking about 256 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: the crisis in the White House, and they continue to 257 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: insist and cling to the notion that Joe Biden is fine. 258 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: Just from the press conference today, the press spokesman Korean 259 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: John Pierre had this to say, do you believe. 260 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 8: That the president is as sharp today as he was 261 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 8: when he took this job? 262 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 5: Any slowdowns? 263 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 9: What I can say is this is a president who 264 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 9: is strong and resolute in delivering for the American people. 265 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 6: That's what I see. 266 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 9: I see a president when I'm in sitting in front 267 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 9: of him, you know, going through the day or talking 268 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 9: about what he's doing next. He is someone that engages 269 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 9: with us. He wants to know, He pushes us. He probly, 270 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 9: you know, prodes us wanting to figure out like the 271 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 9: bigger picture of whatever we're trying to explain to him, 272 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 9: or even granual details. He is as sharp as as 273 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 9: ever as I have known him to be in my engagement, 274 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 9: in my experience with him. 275 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: Here's the absurdity of this. 276 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: If the question is of is cognitive ability, having a 277 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: bunch of other people that work for him to come 278 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: out and say no, no, no, no, he's super smart and 279 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: he's engaged, but you can't actually talk to him is 280 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: not gonna work. 281 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: It's not gonna work. 282 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 7: And those are among the details that staff are leaking, 283 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 7: which suggests that there is a growing desire to replace 284 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 7: him with anybody else, right, I mean, while Vice President 285 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 7: Harris is not as popular as Joe Biden, and really 286 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 7: nobody's got the popularity to maybe pose a significant that 287 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 7: other than Michelle Obama, which I think would be, you know, 288 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 7: a total Democrat fantasy, but seems wildly unlikely. The fact 289 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 7: that you're hearing things like, hey, his debate prep went 290 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 7: from eleven to four and included a nap. He's sharp 291 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 7: from ten to four pm, Axio's head reporting that a 292 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 7: lot of the White House staff has had much less 293 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 7: access to him than other presidents have because the small 294 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 7: team of Jill Biden and others just keep anybody else 295 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 7: from interacting with Joe Biden. It's like they're protecting him 296 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 7: from something, and it might just be the reality of 297 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 7: his actual condition being exposed. And that's unfortunately something they 298 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 7: were not able to protect him from because he was 299 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 7: exposed for ninety minutes of the American people last week. 300 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 7: And then that's why you saw people turn so quickly. 301 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 7: It's like, we're gonna lie, We're gonna lie. We can 302 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 7: get away with it. We can't get away with it anymore, 303 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,479 Speaker 7: and now we have to do something like right away. 304 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And the bottom line is this strategy. 305 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna keep trying it, keep saying and 306 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: trying to say no, no, he's doing fine. 307 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: It's not gonna work. 308 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: And part of it is the contrast to the Joe 309 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Biden that we know, even from a few years ago, 310 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: the guy that was going out and getting ice cream cones. 311 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: Remember that he be out talking to people at the 312 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: ice cream shop and engaging. There's none of that anymore. 313 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: And he won't even come out himself and prove where 314 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: he is cognitively. So this strategy is simply not gonna work. 315 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: I believe they are going to shift to Kamala Harris 316 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: because they do not have a choice, and they're they're 317 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: in a conundrum right because some people have gone on 318 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: record and said, you know, if you step over Kamala 319 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: Harris and try to put Gavin new some are somebody 320 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: else in that spot, things are going to go really south, 321 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: really quickly in the Democratic Party. 322 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 7: So if there's an indication of what the conversations being 323 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 7: had within the inner circles of Democrat powerbrokers, Democrat and 324 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 7: megadonor Ari Emmanuel was just giving a forum and he 325 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 7: was asked about, hey, what do we do? The question 326 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 7: was Democrats are jumping out windows? 327 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 4: What do we do? 328 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 7: And he said, well, I blame the founding fathers because 329 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 7: they gave us a start date at thirty five, but 330 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 7: they didn't. 331 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 4: Give us an end date. Oh wow, yeah, oh wow, 332 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 4: no no end date. 333 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 7: But then he says, I've talked to a bunch of 334 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 7: big donors they're moving all their money to Congress in 335 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 7: the Senate. 336 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 4: We should all be really upset. That's a paraphrase. He said. 337 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 7: You know, this is a legal issue now, and this 338 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 7: is something that our friend Jason Chaffitz has made because 339 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 7: there are state laws at play. He said, you can't 340 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 7: remove him in three swing states Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. 341 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 7: And only Michigan has a Democratic legislature, which means, I 342 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 7: guess you'd have to have Republicans vote to remove him 343 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 7: in these other states, which of course they're not going 344 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 7: to do, right, But so that's but then that it 345 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 7: raises this other issue. So some people say it's not 346 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 7: viable to replace at the top of the ticket because 347 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 7: there are state laws that would govern such a thing. 348 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 7: But then you have to think about, well, wait a minute, 349 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 7: what did the last four years teach us. What did 350 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 7: we get away with as a country? No, we just 351 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 7: fundamentally changed the way we conduct elections, right, right, and 352 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 7: because covid or sure, but guess what, there's but those 353 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 7: they had laws of the books there with the state 354 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 7: legislators are supposed to ratify who have been accept this 355 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 7: private money. We're going to do all kinds of different stuff. 356 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 7: The state legislatures didn't do it, and we got and 357 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 7: they did it then. So you can't really blame Democrats 358 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 7: for thinking they can do it now, right. 359 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: Right, and that they can figure out a way even 360 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: as late as October to try to fix this. I 361 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be that easy, and I 362 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: don't think Joe Biden's going to last that long in 363 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: terms of politically. I think the pressure is going to 364 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: become so immense. He can cling to power. But if 365 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: everybody the money drives up, and everybody on Capitol Hill 366 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: says Joe, you've got to go, I think he will 367 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: eventually do it, and that will lead to Kamala Harris. 368 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: If not, there are some Democrats. I think we have 369 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: a clip on this. There are some Democrats that have 370 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: said if you push cam Aside, they're gonna burn down 371 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: the house. 372 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 4: Now, this is a Stephen A. 373 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 7: Smith show, and he's talking to a civil rights attorney 374 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 7: who believes also a delegate for the Democrat Party. 375 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 4: Listen to what she said. 376 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 7: The idea that anybody else besides Vice President Harris would 377 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 7: be mentioned would have lasting ramification for the Democrat Party. 378 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 10: Or we agree, there's a long list of Democrats, Kamala Harris, 379 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 10: a Gavin Newsom, a Gretchen Whitmer, the list goes on and. 380 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 8: On and on. 381 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 10: You've named four or five people, where is their consensus. 382 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 10: You've got to build consensus, and there is no consensus 383 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 10: right now. If you pick a white man over Kamala 384 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 10: Harris black women, I can tell you this, We're gonna 385 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 10: walk away. 386 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 8: We're gonna blow the party up. 387 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 7: So I actually think that the best thing that the 388 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 7: Biden administration has going for it is the fact that 389 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 7: the vice president is Kamala Harris, because her polling numbers 390 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 7: are worse than Joe Biden's. And that's before even having 391 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 7: a national conversation about some of her political vulnerabilities. I mean, 392 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 7: this is something that we at the government accountability in this. Dude, 393 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 7: you're the president. You've written a bunch of books. In 394 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 7: one of your books, Profiles and Incruption, which detail Kamala 395 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 7: Harris's very real political baggage. 396 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she has huge political baggage. 397 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: Of course, a lot of people know that she emerged 398 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: on the scene in nineteen ninety four because she started 399 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: dating Willy Brown, who was the Speaker of the California Assembly. 400 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: She was twenty nine, he was sixty. He was older 401 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: than her father. But Willy Brown also appointed her, at 402 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: age twenty nine, to the State Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board 403 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: whatever that is met once a month. She got paid 404 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: ninety nine thousand dollars a year for doing that. Then 405 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: to the California Medical Assistance Commission. She got paid one 406 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen thousand dollars for that, and then of 407 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: course Willy bought her a brand new BMW. The relationship 408 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: kind of went south. But Willie Brown became the mayor 409 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: of San Francisco and he had a big problem, and 410 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: that is that the San Francisco District Attorney, a guy 411 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: named Terence Hallandon, was causing him problems. He was investigating him, 412 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: he was investigating his friends. And of course Willy Brown 413 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: has been under FBI investigation for decades for the kind 414 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: of stuff that he did. So Willie Brown's genius plan was, 415 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to have my former girlfriend Kamala Harris, run 416 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: against Terrence Hallanan knock him out of the office, and 417 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: she will protect me and protect my friends and lo 418 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: and behold, that's what happened. That was her introduction into politics. 419 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: And when she became the San Francisco District Attorney. There 420 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: are legions of cases where she dropped cases that were 421 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: being prosecuted against Willie Brown's friends. Probably the most outrageous, 422 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: I think was what was going on with the priest 423 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: abuse scandal in San Francisco at that time. 424 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 7: She was the only district attorney of the major city 425 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 7: did not prosecute a case against Catholic priests because of 426 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 7: the sex abuse. 427 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: That's right, and it's not because Kamala Harris is sympathetic 428 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: to the Catholic Church. It's because the law firms that 429 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: were representing the Catholic Church raised a ton of money 430 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: and put her into office. And her predecessor, Terrence Hallinan, 431 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: had got access to like eight hundred pages of internal 432 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: documentcies or investigations the church had done in San Francisco 433 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: on priests abuse scandals. He wanted to of course take 434 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: the names of the victims out, but release it to 435 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: the public. Victims groups wanted that Kamala Harris covered it up. 436 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: She said, we're not releasing this material, and she did 437 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: not prosecute a single case. And yet she has of 438 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: course paraded herself for years as somebody who stands up 439 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: for victims. This is the kind of raw power that 440 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: she has demonstrated over the years when she's been in 441 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 1: a position of power and authority. 442 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 7: I'd also say that those are among the things that 443 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 7: would have been maybe discussed in a broader way had 444 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 7: she been more of a threat politically during the twenty 445 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 7: twenty primary. She wasn't, So it wasn't and so I 446 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 7: think that's one of the conversations that the country would 447 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 7: absolutely have if she did become the president or become 448 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 7: the presidential nominee. But I think the point's been made 449 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 7: too that it does make sense packaging Joe Biden as listen, 450 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 7: we have to find a way for you to become 451 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 7: heroic and patriotic, right. 452 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: I think he is a guy that likes to lead 453 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: in those ways. 454 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 7: Or he's the one that put the pressure on the 455 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 7: Obama administration to legalize gay marriage, and he's the one 456 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 7: that put pressure he said, look, I'm going to be 457 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 7: the first one to appoint an African American woman to 458 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 7: a Supreme Court. I'm going to have a female vice president. 459 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 7: This identity politics stuff matters to him, or at least 460 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 7: he's learned how to use it. 461 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 4: In a way that looks like it matters to him. 462 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 7: And so I think if you convinced him, listen, you 463 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 7: can leave and you can be the one that gives 464 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 7: us the first female president. 465 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: I could see that being enticing to him. 466 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: It could, of course, the genius move would be to 467 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: do that and then to inji a situation where Kamal 468 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: Harris decides to not run for president. 469 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: Now I know that's kind of unimagined. 470 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: He gets to be president but then not run for president. 471 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, she gets to be president. Yes, he steps down 472 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: not only as a candidate but as president. Because here's 473 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: the problem. Yes, he's going to make this grandiose statement 474 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: and say this, you know, I'm going to help bring 475 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: about the first a black female president in the United States. 476 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: The problem is it's Kamala Harris. She's not likable, she 477 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: has terrible whole number, she's not going to win. So 478 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: how about this idea? What do you think about this? 479 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: The Democratic Party power brokers go to Kamala Harris and say, look, 480 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: the next opening on the Supreme Court, when when we 481 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: have the presidency, will be you. You think Kamala Harris 482 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: would take that? Do you think she would prefer to 483 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: be a justice on the Supreme Court for the next 484 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: thirty years, as opposed to running for president and probably 485 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: losing because her poll numbers are so bad. 486 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 7: I guess let's take a look at what Jill Biden's 487 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 7: done in her office, right, Like, Jill Biden has her 488 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 7: hands around I mean not literally, but the presidency is 489 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 7: in the Biden family. And if Jill Biden is one 490 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 7: of the people who has been the most reluctant, reluctant 491 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 7: to relinquish that power, you actually think that Kamala Harris 492 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 7: would be willing to let go of the presidency if 493 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 7: she was named as president. 494 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 2: It's a long shot, but I think the whole. 495 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 7: Terrible theory, and it's beneath you and all of your professionals. 496 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: I just think that there are too many smart people 497 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party leadership who look at the poll numbers. 498 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: Her likability is lower than Joe Biden's, and I don't 499 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: think it's going to improve with exposure. I mean, that's 500 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: the problem. It's not because she's an unknown. Everybody knows 501 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: her and the poll numbers are bad. She's not a 502 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: great candidate. Remember when she ran for president in twenty 503 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: twenty in her own state of California. She got three 504 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: percent of the vote. No, it's bad, bad, So she's 505 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: not a good candidate. So the question is she sits 506 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: down with her husband, she sits down. 507 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: With her AIDS. I don't know. 508 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: It's a gambit that I think Democrats would try to 509 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: take because I think one of the reasons that Joe 510 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: Biden is cleaning the power is his AIDS are looking 511 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: that Kamala Harris as his replacement as a candidate is 512 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: not a great option for them. 513 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not a great option. 514 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 7: And the other people that have been mentioned as options, 515 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 7: like Gavin Newsom, have their own fair share of baggage. 516 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 7: We've talked about that on some of our podcasts and research. 517 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 7: I mean, just think about this, Gavin Newsom's governor's state 518 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 7: of California. The last four years, California has led the 519 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 7: nation in losing U hauls. They ran out of U hauls. 520 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 7: But so many people are leaving. American citizens are leaving, 521 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 7: other citizens are finding their way there. But it it 522 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 7: remains this incredibly fascinating moment, unprecedented in our nation's history. 523 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 7: And so we love to be able to talk about 524 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 7: it with you. 525 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: Give us a call. 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Sean Reuters now reporting 554 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: that Democrats are starting to get around Kamala Harris is 555 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: the possible heir to Joe Biden. Reuter's reporting that they 556 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: are comfortable with her because she has already been vetted 557 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: for national office and has survived intense scrutiny. I must 558 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: have missed that, but let's go to Eric in North Carolina. Eric, 559 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: thanks for joining the conversation. 560 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 8: Thank you, Hello gentlemen. Pina, First of all, thank you 561 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 8: for all the massive work you've done for America to 562 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 8: help dig out the corruption of the Democrats and where 563 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 8: we'd be if we didn't know that, My goodness, I 564 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 8: wanted to mention something I haven't heard anybody talking about yet. 565 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 8: Depending on when Joe Biden or or Queen gill Or 566 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 8: to drop out, they have a problem I haven't heard 567 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 8: mentioned who would be vice president. Obviously Kamala is a problem. 568 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 8: But if Joe drops out before the end of his term, 569 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 8: or if having permitted him or to get elected and 570 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 8: try to go four years again and not make it, 571 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 8: the Speaker of the House, if I'm not mistaken, is 572 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 8: the one that would step in, right, Mike Smith. 573 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: Well, actually, the way that it works, you can look 574 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: at what happened with Richard Nixon and the resignation there, 575 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: they actually get to select the president gets to select 576 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: their vice president, and it would probably be Hakeem Jeffries, 577 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: who's the leader of the Democrats in the House. 578 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: That would probably be the choice. 579 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 8: Oh no, okay, I thought there was a point where 580 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 8: the speaker filled in as vice president when the president 581 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 8: becomes incapacitating. 582 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is, if there is a crisis the president 583 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: and the vice president are killed, the third in leadership 584 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: in government would actually be the Speaker of the House. 585 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: But in this case they would get to pick who 586 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: would be vice president and the running mate. 587 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 7: Do you think anything that's happening now with the conversation 588 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 7: with Kamala Harris and Joe Biden does it in any 589 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 7: way impact who you think Donald Trump should select as 590 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 7: his vice president. 591 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: I think that's a great question. 592 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: And I think that you know, Donald Trump is having 593 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: a wide open process, and I think it probably will. 594 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there will probably be a political calculation if 595 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: if he's facing Kamala Harris, I would imagine he's going 596 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: to end up favoring certain candidates in terms of the 597 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: ethnic vote. I think that's probably a good call to. 598 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 7: And that may be one of the reasons why he's 599 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 7: waiting until ultimately kind of see how this shakes up 600 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 7: before they pick it. It's amazingly fascinating, it's historically unprecedented, 601 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 7: and it's a moment we get to share with you. 602 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 7: Thank you for joining us. He's Peter Schweizer, I'm Eric Eggers. 603 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 7: We host the program called The Drill Down. 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