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Speaker 1: I believe the thirty fifth consecutive year with a future
Speaker 1: yet to be determined. I'm Jeff Joniak, voice of the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears with my broadcast partner, A News Radio seven
Speaker 1: eighty WBBM is mister Tom there. Tom is not here,
Speaker 1: He's tucked away at home. But Tom, we got Jim Miller,
Speaker 1: our sidekick here, our special guest each and every week.
Speaker 1: We don't even want them to rest until segment two.
Speaker 1: We're bringing him m right now out of the cannon.
Speaker 1: But Tom, you you had a chance today to listen
Speaker 1: in and watch and take a gander on what's going
Speaker 1: on in the NFL. We heard from Ryan Poles today,
Speaker 1: the Bear's new general manager and head coach. Matt Eberflus
Speaker 1: will here comments from those guys as welcoming up here
Speaker 1: in the next couple of segments, but quickly before I
Speaker 1: bring Jimmy in here. Any overall tone from what you
Speaker 1: picked up from those two fellaws today, Yeah, two things.
Speaker 1: If I'm an offensive lineman, I better be ready to
Speaker 1: lose some weight and get stronger. And now, when I
Speaker 1: listened to Matti Eberflus, you know, every time I went
Speaker 1: to a coaching transition, whether it being in college from
Speaker 1: Dan Divine to Jerry file So or in the USFL
Speaker 1: from George Allen to Frank Kush or in the NFL,
Speaker 1: it's always the anticipation of that next higher how much
Speaker 1: it affects your job personally, but also one of the
Speaker 1: message that they're sending every time they're get in front
Speaker 1: of a microphone. And I'd like to hear Ryan Poles saying,
Speaker 1: look at we need to get lighter and master and
Speaker 1: then Matt continues the process of talking about how hard
Speaker 1: they're gonna work in the expected effort out of every
Speaker 1: one of these guys. And you know, Jeff. When I
Speaker 1: listen to these guys and I see how prepared and
Speaker 1: how immediate their answers are at the podium, it makes
Speaker 1: me excited about training camp and going there to watch
Speaker 1: these guys work every day, because I don't think anybody's
Speaker 1: gonna be putting their hand up to get a veteran
Speaker 1: day off within the first week of the training camp.
Speaker 1: The OTAs and the mini camps are going to be
Speaker 1: as meaningful as some of the first practices of the
Speaker 1: training camp. But guys, you're unnoticed, be ready to be
Speaker 1: prepared for whatever position you play, the effort you're expected
Speaker 1: to give, and don't come in twenty pounds overweight, Jim.
Speaker 1: I think Tom's fired up and ready to go. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be hitting the gym like Miller has. Because Tom,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen him, He's dropped a good twenty five
Speaker 1: thirty pounds. I had to do a double take. He
Speaker 1: looks fifteen years younger. Hey, Mattieberflusy inspired me. I mean
Speaker 1: he didn't get leaned in me. But you know, I
Speaker 1: echo what Tom says. I think you do get a
Speaker 1: sense of the standard of what they expect. I think
Speaker 1: you know, just in my conversations with both Ryan Poles
Speaker 1: and Matt Eberflus. They've already talked about what type of
Speaker 1: player they want. You know, every player or every team,
Speaker 1: I should say, has a culture of who's going to
Speaker 1: be the right fit. They've already talked about the schemes
Speaker 1: of what they're going to deploy offensively and defensively, and
Speaker 1: what type of players they're going to need within those schemes.
Speaker 1: So they're already on the same page from that standpoint.
Speaker 1: And you know, much like Tom I, you know, I
Speaker 1: got to kick out of Mattiberflus today. He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. He said, I reached out to all
Speaker 1: a lot of the Chicago Bears alumni, whether it's a
Speaker 1: Lacquer or Single Terry or Buckus and all these great
Speaker 1: players that he's now got on his rolodecks and some
Speaker 1: of the stuff that they're texting him. He's getting inspired.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he understands, and I've said this
Speaker 1: numerous times. When I walked in Pittsburgh, that tradition and
Speaker 1: that history reeked all over the place when you walked
Speaker 1: in that foyer of all three Rivers Stadium and the
Speaker 1: Lombardi trophies are there, and I felt that way when
Speaker 1: I walked through hellis haul of the history of the
Speaker 1: game and how important it is. And I got a good,
Speaker 1: good conversation with both Ryan Poles and Matt Eberflus that
Speaker 1: they take that to heart. And he said, it's pretty
Speaker 1: cool when you get those texts from whether it's a
Speaker 1: Tom Thayer or former players that he's communicating with, of
Speaker 1: what their challenges and you know what they need to represent.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Tom at those messages. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he told you, Jim what those messages were from
Speaker 1: a guy like like butt kissu, you know, and earlier.
Speaker 1: But these guys, when they hear about toughness, when they
Speaker 1: hear about playing fast and physical and giving great effort,
Speaker 1: those are all catch phrases that are thrown around by
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches. But if you don't put some
Speaker 1: teeth into it, and if you don't demand it from
Speaker 1: the time you get there until the time you are
Speaker 1: asked to leave or you choose to leave, then it's
Speaker 1: it's just going to be lip service. There is no
Speaker 1: way these two guys, Tom are given this lip service.
Speaker 1: This is how it's going to be. And you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to adjust to it. Yeah, I mean this listen, man,
Speaker 1: the line has been drawn in the sand since day one,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of reinforced every time they get in
Speaker 1: front of a microphone. So you get there, you get
Speaker 1: hired for the job, you're really not familiar with the building,
Speaker 1: with the talent, with the video of the games from
Speaker 1: this past couple of years, and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you start a little bit more study. You get involved,
Speaker 1: you know, from the small thing of having eye to
Speaker 1: eye contact in the same room as Darnell Mooney and
Speaker 1: how much he impressed him. So you know, it's nice
Speaker 1: to see the positive reflections. But again, the message is
Speaker 1: out there and it's repeated every time, kind of in
Speaker 1: a different tone, and as the seer as the season
Speaker 1: kind of approaches, the seriousness to every one of the
Speaker 1: messages that they put out there, it's it's it's clear
Speaker 1: of what's expected out of these guys in the position.
Speaker 1: They're philosophical thinking about football itself, and even Ryan say
Speaker 1: and look, man, we need to figure out which offensive
Speaker 1: lineman fit in the best position they fit in, so
Speaker 1: there is no predetermined spot that look, you're gonna go here,
Speaker 1: this is where you're gonna stay. Look, you're gonna come
Speaker 1: to this position initially, you're gonna compete for that position,
Speaker 1: and if we feel that you fit somewhere else more
Speaker 1: effectively for us, we'll make the change. Philosophically. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about that a little bit. Jim and Tom. The offensive
Speaker 1: lineman will start with Jimmy though, because he was ducked
Speaker 1: under center with those guys up front, so it was
Speaker 1: clear they want him lighter and quicker for what they
Speaker 1: want to do. Whatever it is they want to do,
Speaker 1: lighter and quicker wand Castillo wanted them as big as
Speaker 1: possible up front, so he wanted really big guys. What
Speaker 1: do you take from that in terms of what they
Speaker 1: might now look like as an offense from the guys
Speaker 1: that I think they're going to be an outside zone
Speaker 1: running team, I think is what it tells you they're
Speaker 1: not going to be a gap scheme. Again, this is
Speaker 1: in the history of this offense, right, everybody's gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the Big Fae offense. We'll know it's not
Speaker 1: the McVeigh offense. Then people say, well's the Kyle Shanahan offense. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not the Kyle shanahanoffs. This is the Mike Shanahan offense. Offense.
Speaker 1: It was the outside zone run. Tommy can explain it
Speaker 1: to all the listeners. That's what they did out there
Speaker 1: in Denver with Terrell Davis. What were though all those
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, they were legitimately two ninety five to three
Speaker 1: h five at the most. They were light, they were
Speaker 1: quick on their feet, they could move, and so that's
Speaker 1: what I think it's gonna tell you. It's going to
Speaker 1: be an outside zone scheme. May you know, they may
Speaker 1: work in some pulling schemes as well with the powerplays
Speaker 1: and things like that, but I think and then all
Speaker 1: the play action will come off of that from that standpoint.
Speaker 1: Also for the screen game, offensive linemen need to be
Speaker 1: able to run up field and get to the second
Speaker 1: level to be able to block down the field. So
Speaker 1: you gotta have guys that can move if you're going
Speaker 1: to go that round. And in that sense, Tommy as
Speaker 1: well quarterback who gets rid of the football quicker quickly,
Speaker 1: and that's what they're going to ask as well of
Speaker 1: justin fields. So does this meantime there are no more
Speaker 1: three hundred thirty five pound tackles on the Bears in
Speaker 1: the future, how would you break that down? Then rife,
Speaker 1: they'll be there exactly what Jim says. I if they
Speaker 1: display the athleticism from the size that they're blessed with,
Speaker 1: gifted with, or developed in the weight room throughout their
Speaker 1: course of time, then yeah, this is what you can
Speaker 1: go in here and compete at. But you know, Jeff,
Speaker 1: if I'm running, if I'm kind of this conception of
Speaker 1: the outside zone and I need speed to get to
Speaker 1: the point of attack, and if you're a tenth of
Speaker 1: a second too slow, if you're not moving out of
Speaker 1: your stance real well, if you're a little off balance
Speaker 1: when you try to move at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: snap count, then yeah, I'm gonna have to make subtle
Speaker 1: changes with you. And I don't think we can ignore
Speaker 1: a guy that they hired last week and Jimmy Arthur,
Speaker 1: because he's gonna have control of the weight room. So
Speaker 1: it's a fine line to have these guys be able
Speaker 1: to confidently and efficiently lose some weight but still gain strength.
Speaker 1: And I do think that's gonna be one of the
Speaker 1: key ingredients here, because the better athletes they have in
Speaker 1: their stance, they have a wider variety of plays they
Speaker 1: can run. Let's use the example of Trent Williams right
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's offense six five, three hundred twenty pounds left tackle.
Speaker 1: Some concerning the best game. Remember when he was motioning
Speaker 1: him he can move? Yeah, that's a lot. That's an
Speaker 1: offensive alignment over three fifteen three twenty Who can move?
Speaker 1: All right? Sounds good, Jim Miller, Tom there, We're through
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Speaker 1: better world. With Tom there, I'm Jeff Joniac and our
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Speaker 1: out here tonight from Indianapolis at the Scouting Combine. Good
Speaker 1: to have you alongside with us as we break down
Speaker 1: today's festivities with the Bears, Brass speaking and all around
Speaker 1: the league. Jim was doing interviews all day with coaches
Speaker 1: and general managers. I think it's a cool thing. They're
Speaker 1: not all here, they're not all coming, they're not all
Speaker 1: obligated to do it, but just a little sneak peek.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna tell you what they're gonna do or
Speaker 1: give you evaluations on who's going to be a cap
Speaker 1: casualty or who they're thinking about resigning and free agency,
Speaker 1: or what they're gonna do and go out and get it,
Speaker 1: but they'll give you some context. You gotta use your
Speaker 1: two years and listen to what they say to where
Speaker 1: you're I think you're gonna go. Yeah, I thought today
Speaker 1: I talked to Arthur Smith, and I'll tell you what, man,
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with him as a head coach of the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. One because they were in meaningful games towards
Speaker 1: the end of the season and they did not have
Speaker 1: a lot of salary cap space. You knew last year
Speaker 1: because they had to trade Julio Jones to clear up
Speaker 1: even more space. To you know, they didn't they signed it.
Speaker 1: I think only one of free agent because they couldn't
Speaker 1: afford it, and they still have more cleaning up to do,
Speaker 1: so they're going to be focused on the draft. I
Speaker 1: think other teams are in that boat as well. When
Speaker 1: you look at say New Orleans, you know that just
Speaker 1: won't have the cap space. New Orleans just cleared up
Speaker 1: twenty four million dollars today and they still have another
Speaker 1: thirty million to go. So and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: teams in that boat. But then you have other teams
Speaker 1: that we'll have somebody to spend. It is a buyer's market.
Speaker 1: They've got to be smart at the contracts they're gonna
Speaker 1: really pose to guys and the team to really look at.
Speaker 1: And everybody accuses Mike Brown of being frugal. Why are
Speaker 1: they in the Super Bowl? They not only draft well,
Speaker 1: but look at the free agents they signed last year.
Speaker 1: Trey Henderson, what a great signing, you know, and Mike Hilton,
Speaker 1: you know, comes over from the Steelers in lo and
Speaker 1: behold they find themselves in the Super Bowl. So I
Speaker 1: think teams just got to be very smart about their
Speaker 1: business decisions. And then of course you got to nail
Speaker 1: at it in the draft. You got to nail your
Speaker 1: draft picks, not all of them, you know, I think
Speaker 1: we know. It's kind of a fifty percent type of deal.
Speaker 1: Some teams are better at it than others. Like I
Speaker 1: look at a team like Dallas, who drafts better than Dallas.
Speaker 1: Go look at the roster. All their starters, they're all
Speaker 1: draft picks. They're all draft picks other than Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: who they brought over from the Raiders. Dak Prescott was
Speaker 1: a third round draft pick. Zekiel Elliott first all, they're
Speaker 1: all their whole offensive lines drafted. Ceedee Lamb was a
Speaker 1: draft pick. Delvin Schultzer tight end was a draft pick.
Speaker 1: Want me to go through their defense? They're all pick
Speaker 1: it's a Bear show. No, don't go through the defense.
Speaker 1: That's why. But that's going to be the challenge for
Speaker 1: the Bears to ye. So select guys and free to
Speaker 1: see that they know will fit the Bear system scheme wise, offensive, defensively,
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do, and then nail the picks
Speaker 1: that fit what they're trying to do. And this year
Speaker 1: there's five and tom we got we got a second,
Speaker 1: we got a third, we got two, five's got a six.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this because today it was
Speaker 1: brought up. You may hear some of it here tonight
Speaker 1: from Polls or Eberflus, But Tommy, about there again, everybody
Speaker 1: talks about culture. We heard a lot about culture, and
Speaker 1: every culture based on who's running the show, is going
Speaker 1: to be slightly different, different expectations. You want a type team,
Speaker 1: you want good chemistry. Of course, you got to have
Speaker 1: some great players, but you gotta have cornerstones. And I'm
Speaker 1: wondering because they're not gonna say it yet. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Yeah it's real Quant Smith, Tommy, But do
Speaker 1: you feel that they have now analyzed it enough because
Speaker 1: what they've done is make profile tapes of every position
Speaker 1: of what exactly they're looking for, so that the GM
Speaker 1: and the scouts are on the same page as what
Speaker 1: the head coach and position coaches are looking for. Do
Speaker 1: you think there's carryover of some of those guys that
Speaker 1: are cornerstone pieces for chemistry? Are you wanting to bring
Speaker 1: in new types of cornerstones to complement what they have
Speaker 1: right now with Justin Fields and real Quant Smith just
Speaker 1: for starters right there? I mean, you're always looking for
Speaker 1: those dream players, the guys that are going to set
Speaker 1: the standard inside the building. What type of culture do
Speaker 1: they come from? If there are a draft choice in
Speaker 1: their college atmosphere, what type of culture do they come
Speaker 1: from if they are an NFL free agent in what
Speaker 1: type of backgrounds do they have? Accordingly, Because you know,
Speaker 1: one thing, if when you're a free agent, you're looking
Speaker 1: at coming to a new team that has a new
Speaker 1: head coach, these guys have great work ethics because they
Speaker 1: know what's going to be expected of them when they
Speaker 1: come here for their first go around as an NFL
Speaker 1: free agent. And then if you have a guy that
Speaker 1: is a college pick, you have to understand what is
Speaker 1: their reputation individually, how well do they play when they're tired,
Speaker 1: What was the requirements of their coaching staff throughout the
Speaker 1: latter parts of their college career in where they expected
Speaker 1: to do as much or did they gain too much
Speaker 1: respect in their college atmosphere that they kind of got
Speaker 1: coddled a little bit because it's kind of hard to
Speaker 1: bring those guys back to earth, and so all those
Speaker 1: things you have to take in consideration. But if you're
Speaker 1: out there investigating an NFL free agent, then you probably
Speaker 1: have a good understanding of what their background is what
Speaker 1: their work affic is. But Jeff, you really never know
Speaker 1: until you get them in front of you and they
Speaker 1: are playing fatigued and you got to see how hard
Speaker 1: they play. Yeah, it was interesting, and I thought Ryan
Speaker 1: Poles made a great point today when he sat down
Speaker 1: with Serious XM Radio. You can and it's not just
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles. Other teams kind of solidified it for me
Speaker 1: when they said that. Arthur Smith and other guys that
Speaker 1: we interviewed today said that as well, you can get
Speaker 1: a player's mindset by just watching him. Watch, you know.
Speaker 1: For example, for the listeners out there, let's say a
Speaker 1: receiver catches the ball, is he lowering his shoulder to
Speaker 1: get extra yardage? Or is he running out of bounce?
Speaker 1: It's something as small as that. Or you can sit
Speaker 1: in the meeting room, hey man, tell us why you
Speaker 1: ran out of bounce here? Well you know, business decision? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and you can get that or say during
Speaker 1: an eighteen minute interview, because it's essentially what it is.
Speaker 1: A player may be able to fake it through eighteen minutes.
Speaker 1: But again I had another coach say, well, we went
Speaker 1: halfway through the interview and said, well, what happened here
Speaker 1: on this play and the players started to blame his coaches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: coach turned on the light and said, hey man, interviews done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not what we're looking for. You didn't tell the
Speaker 1: player that, hey man, that's thanks for coming, you know,
Speaker 1: but they got the information that they needed that this
Speaker 1: guy was kind of a finger pointer. Hey, blaming the coaches.
Speaker 1: Coach did this, They used me the wrong way. This
Speaker 1: at the other thing. You know, you can gain a
Speaker 1: lot from those interviews. Yeah, Tom, you gotta go. You
Speaker 1: gotta rely on the tape because you know, frankly, and
Speaker 1: it's no different than if any of us were going
Speaker 1: to a job interview and you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you might have an agent still, Dolia Jim. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know they get they rehearse you a little
Speaker 1: bit on what you know the other side is looking for. Tom.
Speaker 1: I know is never I don't even know if you
Speaker 1: had a player agent. Tom, I think you did everything
Speaker 1: on your own, yourself made man. But you know they're
Speaker 1: rehearsed a little bit. So you gotta find a way then,
Speaker 1: because there's ways to even trip up the rehearsal, Like
Speaker 1: you tap on a guy's emotions, Tom, you find out
Speaker 1: what really gets them going, or what might aggravate them
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then they'll tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: But the tape though, so Tom, like you said, fatigued
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. So I guess I'm watching fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of a defense has been on the field for
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes and see who's playing hard? Is that
Speaker 1: what you're talking about? Yeah, all those types of elements.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at a safety. When there's a running
Speaker 1: back that breaks to the second level and has some
Speaker 1: open space, does he come at that ball carrier with
Speaker 1: willingness to make a hard hit tackle or is he
Speaker 1: trying to strip the ball away from the ball carrier
Speaker 1: instead of making the tackle. Are those types of things
Speaker 1: that you have to study too. And the thing that's
Speaker 1: interesting about interviews nowadays because these agents get these players
Speaker 1: so pre prepared and tell them the right things to say,
Speaker 1: and all that's good and well until there be an
Speaker 1: interview in that agent not sitting next to them. And
Speaker 1: it's the same thing as a player, Jeff, because we
Speaker 1: stand there every single day at training camp practices and
Speaker 1: you got the coaches surrounding the huddle, and if someone
Speaker 1: makes a mistake, there's a coach right in his face
Speaker 1: immediately to tell him how to make him an adjustment.
Speaker 1: And then the first time you go and do a
Speaker 1: game and you're out in the middle of the field
Speaker 1: and there are no coaches around you, that's when you
Speaker 1: really see the difference in a player that needs a
Speaker 1: coach standing next to him, or there's a player that
Speaker 1: can handle it in the middle of the field by themselves,
Speaker 1: and how to recover and you know how to have
Speaker 1: you know, get a good play after a bad play.
Speaker 1: That's time there. Jim Miller, Jeff Jonik. Earlier today, general
Speaker 1: manager Ryan Poles meeting the media for the first time
Speaker 1: at the scouting count by and looking at what they
Speaker 1: have on the roster right now and where they're going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some really good players, you know in the PRESSUFS
Speaker 1: we talk about justin we talked about Roquan Those guys
Speaker 1: are talented players and we're to get our hands on
Speaker 1: them and see where their ceiling is. And really there's again,
Speaker 1: with all of the free agents that we have this year,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of needs in every place. And it's
Speaker 1: not just starters, but it's depth. And we all know
Speaker 1: when you go through a whole season, a lot of
Speaker 1: times that starting eleven twenty two is not going to
Speaker 1: be the group that you finished the season with. So
Speaker 1: it's important for us to really make sure that our
Speaker 1: depth is taken care of as well. When you looked
Speaker 1: at the table from this press season of your offensive line,
Speaker 1: the players you have a under contract, how do you
Speaker 1: evaluate that crew that you've got it in ability right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna change it up a little bit,
Speaker 1: just in terms of the style. So a lot of
Speaker 1: those guys and the message has been pretty clear. We
Speaker 1: gotta change body types a little bit, we gotta get lighter,
Speaker 1: we gotta get quicker, and through that, you know, I
Speaker 1: think there's some young talent that just needs to be
Speaker 1: pressed and that's part of our jobs to create petition
Speaker 1: or bring the best out of him. So I think
Speaker 1: we'll do that and we'll see how if you know,
Speaker 1: if the cream rises to the top. And you know,
Speaker 1: especially with the old line play a lot of times,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to speak for the coaches, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna end up being the best five to roll
Speaker 1: out there. Ideally, where does Kevin Jickins line up for you?
Speaker 1: When you guys get out in the field, it's too
Speaker 1: early right now. You know, when we get back, we'll
Speaker 1: get organized. I think we put out the mini camp
Speaker 1: that the extra mini camp that we get in April,
Speaker 1: so we got some time to figure that out. But
Speaker 1: when we do, you know, we'll move those guys around
Speaker 1: and see where they fit the best. Head quite head
Speaker 1: in times that d died into what was already in Chicago,
Speaker 1: like I'm a roster. Yeah, specifically with the office. What
Speaker 1: did you see any whether ay where you're pleasently surprised,
Speaker 1: where you disappointed, you'd like to be more hole than
Speaker 1: you thought. What was your evaluation for all that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean bryce spot was was mooney And then just
Speaker 1: you know, as guys have come in to work out,
Speaker 1: we've had the opportunity just to introduce each other and
Speaker 1: and he stopped in and I was like really blown
Speaker 1: away by the person. Um, so that was a bright spot.
Speaker 1: You know, the running back situation is good. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: there's good offensive linement as well. It's just continuing to
Speaker 1: tweak that and making sure we get everyone that's fit
Speaker 1: and and and then the right spots. So that was
Speaker 1: a pleasant suppress Urder evaluation and watch he Urder evaluation Yeah,
Speaker 1: that evaluation. Really, you know, I spent enough time with
Speaker 1: him watching the tape that hasn't really changed from the
Speaker 1: press conference other than again meeting him in person. And
Speaker 1: I think there's something about the guy that's the stoic
Speaker 1: kind of feel you get from him and serious and
Speaker 1: locked in the focus, and he's ready to go. So
Speaker 1: I think there's a high ceiling. And again it's just
Speaker 1: putting him in position to succeed in seeing how high
Speaker 1: that that sealing is. And our coaches are excited about
Speaker 1: them too, which is which is really cool. Understand the
Speaker 1: switch the gs, like a lot of important scouting work
Speaker 1: was done and see the scouge you play. You can't
Speaker 1: just come in and cret your whole studing part with
Speaker 1: your pieces were groups work. I should say, how challenging
Speaker 1: is that? And then do you this draft and reevaluate
Speaker 1: kind of rebuild that apartment. Yeah, well, first, I've been
Speaker 1: through change before in Kansas City, so I've been through
Speaker 1: that process of adjusting grade skill grade scales and values
Speaker 1: and how people communicate in the type of reports that
Speaker 1: have been submitted and how they've gone through all Star games.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I adapt really well. I will
Speaker 1: say this. I was very happy with the group of
Speaker 1: Scouts that we have right now. The meetings were incredible,
Speaker 1: and before we broke I told them all how proud
Speaker 1: I was, because, as in new Gym, you come in
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, you're evaluating them, you're evaluating
Speaker 1: the evaluators. And at the end of it, the thing
Speaker 1: that stood out to me is there's a group of really,
Speaker 1: really good people that worked really hard this fall to
Speaker 1: gather the information. Now, my style was a little bit different,
Speaker 1: our meeting structure was different. Where as I said in
Speaker 1: the press conference, it was it was a culture of
Speaker 1: candidates open. We watched tape. We have order in the
Speaker 1: way that we watched the tape. But after that, everyone
Speaker 1: can speak their mind, and if I see something different
Speaker 1: than you, then I bring it up to the room
Speaker 1: and we work through it and you can tell me
Speaker 1: where you saw it different and we'll go find it.
Speaker 1: So that group effort, I think was refreshing to everyone.
Speaker 1: And again I can't speak more highly of the group
Speaker 1: that we had in the room. I'm excited, and you know,
Speaker 1: we'll continue to evaluate, but I was I was pumped
Speaker 1: about that. Well, that's a good place to end and
Speaker 1: then discuss when we come out of the break, because
Speaker 1: if he's got a good feel already and trust those
Speaker 1: guys with their eyes and what they've done and the
Speaker 1: kind of complicated information they're gathering, it says it could
Speaker 1: be a nice wave into the future with the Bears
Speaker 1: and this group of scouts finding players for the Bears,
Speaker 1: both and the pro side with free agency and in
Speaker 1: the college sky, with their determining here today starting at
Speaker 1: the Combine and all the interviews they're going through right now,
Speaker 1: we'll continue on our conversation here on Bears All Access
Speaker 1: from the Scott and Combine in Indianapolis with Tom Thayre
Speaker 1: and Jim Mother. I'm Jeff Jonik on Chicago Sports Radio
Speaker 1: six seventy the Score. This segment of Bears All Accesses
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Speaker 1: Jim Miller. Just heard from Ryan Poles. Tom, I'll give
Speaker 1: you a chance to respond to some of what he
Speaker 1: talked about We touched on some of it, but I
Speaker 1: would imagine for a first time general manager, because you know,
Speaker 1: they don't come in and wipe out scouting department. He
Speaker 1: brought a Cunningham in from Philadelphia that has been a
Speaker 1: big part of his ability to connect and really hit
Speaker 1: the ground running as a general manager. He trusts him
Speaker 1: and he's a really good resource for him. But scouts
Speaker 1: are signed through the draft everywhere. They don't just get
Speaker 1: unless they're just absolutely not gonna work. So there you
Speaker 1: have to. So it must feel good for Ryan to
Speaker 1: be able to trust these guys. And I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the Mark Sadowskis, I'm talking about the Jeff Kings and
Speaker 1: all the scouts that work in their in their areas
Speaker 1: across the country. Yeah, that's encouraging to me that he
Speaker 1: is happy with the information that has given to him
Speaker 1: from the scouting department that's in place right now. And
Speaker 1: it's something that Ryan Poles can listen to what a
Speaker 1: scout is telling him and he knows if it's legitimate
Speaker 1: information or it's needless information. And it sounds like he
Speaker 1: has a great deal of respect for all the information
Speaker 1: that these guys have brought to their meeting. Rooms. And
Speaker 1: I like the fact that Ryan is telling us that
Speaker 1: he really got a good and first impression out of
Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney, because so did we, And the more we
Speaker 1: got to meet him, the more we enjoyed his character
Speaker 1: and his personality and how important football is to him.
Speaker 1: We all know that David Montgomery in the running back
Speaker 1: room is a strong room. And I'm glad he said
Speaker 1: the offensive line needs to be pressed, because that's just
Speaker 1: another word for challenged. And I'm glad that none of
Speaker 1: these guys, excuse me, are coming to practice the first
Speaker 1: day and thinking, man, I got my position, I'm already
Speaker 1: my place is set in stone. No, it's not. You're
Speaker 1: coming here to be competed against to either win the
Speaker 1: job and impress the coaches or lose the job because
Speaker 1: you're not doing what we expect of you. And Justin Fields,
Speaker 1: he does have a high ceiling. You look at his
Speaker 1: athleticism and he's used the word stoic, and you know
Speaker 1: Justin is not a back around type of guy. He
Speaker 1: comes to practice with great work ethic, He gets out
Speaker 1: there early, he stays late. And I think when you
Speaker 1: talk about that position specifically, especially in such a young
Speaker 1: man like justin fields. It's super encouraging that you see
Speaker 1: that the most serious position on your team has a
Speaker 1: very serious work, competitive attitude. Yeah, well, I think you
Speaker 1: got to give honest evaluations. The last thing you want
Speaker 1: is a bunch of yes men in the room where
Speaker 1: everybody agrees, Oh yeah, we all think he's the same
Speaker 1: guy that won't work. Yeah, that doesn't work. You know.
Speaker 1: Tom brought up a good point, like there was there
Speaker 1: was a general manager I talked to today who said
Speaker 1: they had a young man in an interview and it
Speaker 1: was about effort in the fourth quarter, and they thought
Speaker 1: the consensus was he was dogging it. But one of
Speaker 1: the scouts in the room says, they asked the player, well,
Speaker 1: you know why, you know, do you think you're hustling
Speaker 1: on this play? He goes, well, I pulled my hamstring
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, and the one scout knew that
Speaker 1: he did was hurt. And the kid was out there
Speaker 1: playing hurt, and so his effort was actually exemplary with
Speaker 1: what he was dealing with, and he still didn't want
Speaker 1: to come out of the game and was out there
Speaker 1: given to every type of effort that he could. He
Speaker 1: just couldn't make certain plays due to the injury. So
Speaker 1: you've got to have all that information available, and you
Speaker 1: hope your scouts are doing all that that homework like
Speaker 1: that one Scott was that knew the player was playing
Speaker 1: injured and brought it up um, And that's what the
Speaker 1: good information that Ryan pulls can can really go off of.
Speaker 1: How'd you do in your interviews at the combine? I
Speaker 1: thought I did pretty well, you know, I thought I
Speaker 1: did uh well. I think, yeah, did they pulled up
Speaker 1: plays and I think they, I don't want to say
Speaker 1: that they were leading you to, well, hey, why didn't
Speaker 1: you complete this pass? And I could have said, well, hey,
Speaker 1: the receiver ran the wrong route. You know, I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be a corner. You know, he had horrible hands.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, coach, I mean, yeah, you
Speaker 1: should have caught that. Yeah, I think you got to
Speaker 1: sell yourself that, Hey, you're you're a good teammate, You're accountable, reliable,
Speaker 1: you're productive, and that's what you want to, you know,
Speaker 1: really exemplify. For me, part of it was the injury.
Speaker 1: Even coming out of college, I already had a two
Speaker 1: label coming out of Michigan State because I'd already separated
Speaker 1: my shoulder, I had a concussion and I had a
Speaker 1: knee issue. Um that I think to, you know, push
Speaker 1: me down a little bit. But I thought the interviews
Speaker 1: I thought I did there was an area where I
Speaker 1: excelled from that standpoint and never never stopped me from
Speaker 1: getting work once I did get in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: I think from that standpoint it was good. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you could, definitely you could. I could feel them fishing,
Speaker 1: you know, with these interviews. I could feel them fishing.
Speaker 1: And no, don't take the cheese, Jim, don't take the bike.
Speaker 1: You know. So you know and you do. You gotta
Speaker 1: be on your toes. You gotta be you know, and
Speaker 1: you gotta be savvy. You gotta be tactful. But you
Speaker 1: have to understand what they are looking for and what
Speaker 1: they're you know, what they're what the information they're trying
Speaker 1: to get out of you, because this is what's how
Speaker 1: they want to build their football team with a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys like yourself that or hard working, love football
Speaker 1: and love to win. Tommy, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: had interviews like this. You went to multiple combines, but
Speaker 1: did you have sit downs with teams like they do now?
Speaker 1: Speed dating? So to speak. Yeah, let me tell you
Speaker 1: a quick lesson I learned. So my brother in law,
Speaker 1: who ended up playing for the Falcons for eleven years,
Speaker 1: was two years older than me, and he was a
Speaker 1: super educated guy, academic All American two years in a row,
Speaker 1: he was a concert pianist. He had all this ability
Speaker 1: to do things outside the world of football, and sometimes
Speaker 1: he let a message known that football isn't the end
Speaker 1: all for me. It's part of what I am, and
Speaker 1: that's not the message you want to send. And then
Speaker 1: he ended up sliding, even though he was a two
Speaker 1: time All American, he slid to the fourth round because
Speaker 1: people became aware of that message. And two years later,
Speaker 1: when I was going through the same process Jeff, every
Speaker 1: single interview, I was all in. I had no other option.
Speaker 1: There's nothing else I was gonna do. I was gonna
Speaker 1: play football and that's all I was gonna do. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of learned a message from from
Speaker 1: my brother in law, because I do believe that he
Speaker 1: slid a little bit in the draft because scouts out
Speaker 1: there people gm started believing, Okay, this guy has other
Speaker 1: opportunities in life where I didn't want. I wanted the
Speaker 1: guys to think I'd had. I didn't want any opportunity
Speaker 1: in life other than playing in the NFL. Case in
Speaker 1: point was Myron Roll, Florida State safety gets drafted by
Speaker 1: Tennessee in the sixth round. He made it known, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be a doctor. Yes, I like football. Oh. By
Speaker 1: the way, I'm a Rhodes scholar. Two. By the way,
Speaker 1: I'm going over to Oxford. Two. He dropped out in
Speaker 1: the draft. He didn't play football very long, but he
Speaker 1: is a doctor. That's right. There's hey listen, Michael Haynes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he was drafted, Tom and I talked about this
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, Lovey always try to make sure, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, take off on this foot, and he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: And he had a Greg blash, I believe. Always said, Hey,
Speaker 1: he had you know, he was worried about decorating his
Speaker 1: apartment more than he was ready to play football sometimes,
Speaker 1: So you know, you do have to sniff that out.
Speaker 1: And in another regard, especially when you have Tom, a
Speaker 1: strong minded bunch of guys that you had that you
Speaker 1: walked into in nineteen eighty five and you go to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and Jim, You're coming into the Bears
Speaker 1: in two thousand. Well that two thousand and one team
Speaker 1: you were there before? What year did you get there
Speaker 1: nowt eight ninety seven, end of nine. So are your
Speaker 1: teammates that have been there a bit or these these
Speaker 1: types of players offensive Lineman'd they interviewing you as well?
Speaker 1: When you get into that locker room. I'll let you
Speaker 1: answer that first, and then Tommy, yeah, I think yeah,
Speaker 1: they want to get to know what is the eyeballing yet. Well,
Speaker 1: fortunately for me, I had advocates that were already in there.
Speaker 1: Tye Halleck who I played with at Michigan State, and
Speaker 1: a couple other guys who I'd crossed paths with and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: it's this guy's you know, he's a good character. This
Speaker 1: guy's gonna help us win. So luckily I had, you know,
Speaker 1: ambassadors that were sticking up for me or speaking of
Speaker 1: me and saying, hey this this will be a good
Speaker 1: spot for him. You know. But then you have to
Speaker 1: earn it. Yeah, you know, you have to earn it.
Speaker 1: Those guys have to go out there or when you
Speaker 1: go out to practice. You've got to show them your skills.
Speaker 1: You got to show him your leadership ability, you got
Speaker 1: to show him your dedication of what you're willing to
Speaker 1: sacrifice to win as their teammate and where they believe,
Speaker 1: where they believe in you, and uh, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's a big part of it. You have to earn
Speaker 1: it from that standpoint. For me, you know, it was
Speaker 1: kind of two tier, Jeff, because I was being coached
Speaker 1: by a Hall of Fame offensive guard and he used
Speaker 1: to tell me, Look, you can bull crap anybody else,
Speaker 1: but you can't bull crap me about offensive line play.
Speaker 1: I've been there. It may be different for tackle or center,
Speaker 1: but I know offensive guards. So you'd wanted to earn
Speaker 1: the respective coach Stanfeld number one. But then you also
Speaker 1: had no favors given to you by Mick Michael and
Speaker 1: by Hampton and the guys on the defense they wanted
Speaker 1: to and we're willing to do whatever they needed to
Speaker 1: do to beat you in practice to try to make
Speaker 1: you a better game day player. So it was kind
Speaker 1: of twofold for me from my position coach onto the
Speaker 1: guys that I was practicing against every day. I do believe,
Speaker 1: you know, I have these discussions often with other play
Speaker 1: by play guys or just people who cover the sport,
Speaker 1: and everybody has a different opinion, But I do feel
Speaker 1: you need some alpha's to be those guys. I don't
Speaker 1: think you win without them. I really do. All these
Speaker 1: years covering Super Bowls and you're in you know, granted
Speaker 1: it's just a week, but you're listening on every Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: Mondays now to how they operate and you find out
Speaker 1: a little bit about them and it sticks with you
Speaker 1: when they went. They just have a certain style and
Speaker 1: swagger about them. The Bears and Oh six had that.
Speaker 1: They believed in themselves, they believed they were going to win.
Speaker 1: You guys are all one at it. Certainly Tommy's guys
Speaker 1: had it in eighty five m beyond. So who are
Speaker 1: the alphas who will become the alphas in the future
Speaker 1: for the Chicago Bears. We'll find out in the days
Speaker 1: to come. Coming up, we'll here from Matt Ebrablus, the
Speaker 1: Bear's new head coach, from his comments to the media today.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Johnny AAC and Jim Miller from Serious x M
Speaker 1: NFL Radio moving the chains with Pat Kerwin. Couldn't see
Speaker 1: the tanned up young man. You lost weight. He looks tan.
Speaker 1: You guys are getting something done in this office. We're
Speaker 1: trying to man. My goodness, heart, Tom, we gotta we
Speaker 1: got some work to do. Buddy. You gotta win in
Speaker 1: the offseason. It's never worked for the time. Are you
Speaker 1: winning your off season to this point? Oh, Jeff, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm in the midst of raising three dogs,
Speaker 1: and I'm on my feet more than I ever have
Speaker 1: been in an off season in my life. When you
Speaker 1: got a brand new puppy and you got to take
Speaker 1: him out on the hour, I'm off my feet for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, good, good, good good. To keep you busy.
Speaker 1: And Matt Eberflus has been quite busy. First of all,
Speaker 1: he gets hired and then he's got to put together
Speaker 1: a staff in short order. So he's been He did
Speaker 1: that and did so very well with a lot of
Speaker 1: delegation as well. Earlier today, met the media as a
Speaker 1: member of the Chicago Bears for the first time in
Speaker 1: his old town of Indianapolis, where he coached the Colts defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just getting to know him personally. Really, so I've
Speaker 1: texted most of the guys that are you know, under contract,
Speaker 1: and I've talked to guys just about personal things. Hey,
Speaker 1: how you doing, how's the family, how you enjoying your time?
Speaker 1: And and really that's it and just getting to know
Speaker 1: the guys and building relationships so that that to me
Speaker 1: is the most important thing. Um, once they come in April,
Speaker 1: you know, for the voluntary part of it and start
Speaker 1: doing football, we'll get a chance to look at them.
Speaker 1: You know. Have we looked at them certainly, We've looked
Speaker 1: at him for what they did last year, in the
Speaker 1: previous years and all all those things. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys, this is a clean slate
Speaker 1: for them, you know, and it's we're starting new And
Speaker 1: I told a lot of guys here walking on fresh
Speaker 1: grass here, you know, this is uh um, a new staff,
Speaker 1: new systems. You have to learn it. You got to
Speaker 1: dive into it, and you got to put everything you
Speaker 1: have into it. Because our our systems are are not
Speaker 1: are not hard to understand, but they're hard to implement
Speaker 1: in terms of the player because the way we ask
Speaker 1: them to play in terms of the physical style, the
Speaker 1: effort okay, the mental intensity Okay, those things right there
Speaker 1: are going to be different to those players and when
Speaker 1: they come in they'll have to understand that and they
Speaker 1: will understand it pretty pretty quick. And uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit different for him, but refreshing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look at the tape. So as a coach, your
Speaker 1: your resume is the tape. That's this is the way
Speaker 1: it is. You want to know how it coach football,
Speaker 1: look at look at the tape. You know. You want
Speaker 1: to know how a guy plays football. You look at
Speaker 1: the tape. You know, because a lot of guys can
Speaker 1: say certain things, um, which is great. Words are important,
Speaker 1: but actions more important. So I think that you just
Speaker 1: look at the tape and do they fit. You do
Speaker 1: that with the draft, you do it with free agency,
Speaker 1: you do it with anytime you're trying to acquire a player.
Speaker 1: Does he have two things? Does he love football? Okay?
Speaker 1: And is he willing to work really hard? And to me,
Speaker 1: if those two things are check, check both those boxes.
Speaker 1: He gets his foot in the door. And that's that,
Speaker 1: to me, is what the evaluation process starts with. Get
Speaker 1: this guy. Oh yeah, yeah, we've got those guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I can't, I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: talk about certain players right now, but yeah, we have
Speaker 1: we have pieces in there for sure that that fit
Speaker 1: that mode of loving football and playing really hard. So uh,
Speaker 1: there's definitely pieces there. Yeah. So uh, this goes back
Speaker 1: when I first got interviewed in twenty eighteen with the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. I got interviewed there, and everybody has their
Speaker 1: staff list, and I think that's an important thing. But
Speaker 1: the reality of it is is that it's it's hard
Speaker 1: to get everybody on that list because guys are on
Speaker 1: the contract, guys get promoted where they were. I mean
Speaker 1: just there's a lot of things moving, a lot of
Speaker 1: balls in the air. So I really leaned down the coordinators,
Speaker 1: uh this time, and to Luke and to Allen, you know,
Speaker 1: into into HT. I lean on those guys to say, hey,
Speaker 1: who do you like you know, who fits with your system? Okay,
Speaker 1: and then let's talk about the list that way. Let's
Speaker 1: start our list that way, and then I'll interview them
Speaker 1: on the phone and we'll get him in here and
Speaker 1: either zoom or bring him into Chicago and we'll talk
Speaker 1: to him. They fit with our system and our style,
Speaker 1: then we'll move them on to the next next stage.
Speaker 1: And then that's what we did, and we end up
Speaker 1: hiring a really good staff. And he's taking that staff
Speaker 1: because you guys like Allen Williams, guys like know exactly
Speaker 1: what they want. They got some of their same guys
Speaker 1: that know the system. So now no ways teaching coaches,
Speaker 1: all right, these guys on boat side, and so now
Speaker 1: they can hit the ground running. I think Tom it
Speaker 1: closes the gap a little bit on educating the players
Speaker 1: and what they're gonna do. Oh gosh, no doubt because no,
Speaker 1: you know, Mattieberwfoos doesn't have to sit up there in
Speaker 1: front of all of his defensive coaches and teach them
Speaker 1: the system. And I think when you get out there
Speaker 1: and you get a little time with the new offensive
Speaker 1: staff to sit behind closed doors, it expedites the learning
Speaker 1: of these guys. And you know, one of the things
Speaker 1: I like that Matt says is he's looking to develop
Speaker 1: a relationship player with the players, not a friendship, because
Speaker 1: I think that will come with time. You just need
Speaker 1: to have a working relationship with these guys and then
Speaker 1: the fate of their relationship will work itself out. I
Speaker 1: don't think I ever had a head coach that I said,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm a great friend of this guy. No,
Speaker 1: he was my boss, and every single day I went
Speaker 1: to work, I looked at him as my boss. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the type of working relationship that Ryan
Speaker 1: and Matt need with their players. That's why Tom and
Speaker 1: I get along so well. That's how he looks at
Speaker 1: me just the other way. For the first time, for
Speaker 1: the first time on the radio, Tom admitted it. I
Speaker 1: love it. I've been telling you that for twenty years.
Speaker 1: You brought it up in a break with me Jim
Speaker 1: about three technique? Is he on this team? We don't
Speaker 1: know at this time, but this is what Matt's looking for.
Speaker 1: This was also today. Um. It's about being disruptive, and
Speaker 1: that's certainly when you close your eyes, you know those
Speaker 1: three techniques. What they do. They gotta win the one
Speaker 1: on ones when they run zone away from me. You
Speaker 1: got to be able to stay in the B gap.
Speaker 1: It's that simple. Those are the two things we look
Speaker 1: for and they come in all shapes and sizes, and
Speaker 1: as you've seen it, they got to have exclosive ability
Speaker 1: though that's the number one trait. Would you say it's
Speaker 1: as simple as that. And do they come in all
Speaker 1: shapes and sizes? And if they're not on the roster
Speaker 1: right now based on you got to go with time
Speaker 1: the roster right now because there's twenty five free agents.
Speaker 1: Are they in that second the third round range of
Speaker 1: the draft or are you're gonna have to go in
Speaker 1: free agency? What do you think? Yeah? I think there
Speaker 1: they are there. You know, well, the guy who sticks
Speaker 1: out to me down with the Senior Bowl played really well,
Speaker 1: perry On Winfrey. I mean, that's a disruptive defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Really showed it in the game. But yeah, they're out there,
Speaker 1: they're in free agency. But I would think, you know,
Speaker 1: with this being a new staff, I would think they
Speaker 1: wanted to draft a younger player in groom them to
Speaker 1: bring them up in this new scheme that they're gonna
Speaker 1: be running defensively. Make a mccornerstone if possible. That Harris,
Speaker 1: it was out, yep, yep, yep, Tommy Harris. That's Jim Miller,
Speaker 1: Tom Fair, Jeff jony Ac one segment to go, we'll
Speaker 1: look around the NFL the news of the day with
Speaker 1: all these coaches and GM's talking here on Chicago Sports
Speaker 1: Radio six seventy the score final segment here from Indianapolis
Speaker 1: at the NFL Scout at Combine and I'm Jeff Joniac
Speaker 1: along with Tom Fair and Jim Miller from Serious x
Speaker 1: M NFL Radio, our weekly guest. Thanks as always, Big
Speaker 1: Jim for helping us out news of the day involving
Speaker 1: the Bears. You know, it was a lot of discussion
Speaker 1: obviously about Justin Fields, how to get him to reach
Speaker 1: his potential second year They've studied second year quarterbacks. What
Speaker 1: do they need? Tom, I've been talking about it. They're
Speaker 1: hard to find. When you do, you hope you've hit
Speaker 1: the home run. And he referred to Ryan Poles. Did
Speaker 1: look at the Super Bowl and the first name you
Speaker 1: think of is obviously Aaron Downal on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball. By on the offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: it's Cooper Cup. When it needed something to happen, you
Speaker 1: go to Cooper Cup. When San Francisco needed something to play,
Speaker 1: they want to Deebo Samuel or Travis Kelsey for Kansas
Speaker 1: City So these you need one of those guys for
Speaker 1: a quarterback when it's when it's third down, you gotta
Speaker 1: have it clutch, fourth quarter, need a play, keep a
Speaker 1: drive alive, score a touchdown, gotta have it. So finding
Speaker 1: those type of guys, but not simple time. Well you
Speaker 1: know what Jeff Okay, Cooper Cup, Darnell Mooney, Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: Cole Commett, Deebo, Samuel, David Montgomery. They gotta learn the system.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what Matt was saying earlier in
Speaker 1: his press conference is what these guys get to understand
Speaker 1: the system so perfectly that everything is going to be
Speaker 1: able to fall into place. And so I think that's
Speaker 1: the key ingredient for Justin to continue to develop a
Speaker 1: relationship with those types of players to kind of assist
Speaker 1: the rest of the players come on board. All right,
Speaker 1: I got a quick one for you regarding the barras.
Speaker 1: Will there be more new starters on offense or defense? Offense? Okay,
Speaker 1: so there will be transition. Well, I mean, you look
Speaker 1: at they're talking about the offensive line. Be quicker here.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of Sam Mustafer who just gained thirty pounds. Well,
Speaker 1: guess what you're on a diet now. I mean, think
Speaker 1: about it. He got up to three thirty last year
Speaker 1: and now he's gonna be asked to lose weight again.
Speaker 1: There's a totally different body frame that they're looking for.
Speaker 1: Jason Peters is a left tackle. What did he come
Speaker 1: in as three fifty? He's off the list, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's there's gonna be a lot of different different
Speaker 1: players out there. In my mind, I do like the
Speaker 1: running backs. I think Khalil, Herbert and Montgomery you're gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. But there are no sacred cows other than
Speaker 1: the quarterback. All Right, we got less than two minutes
Speaker 1: the big drill here, Jim guys short short answers are
Speaker 1: hey news from the league. Time. We'll get you in
Speaker 1: here too. Packers GM Gouda. Kun's not getting trade offer,
Speaker 1: Jon Rodgers. You're buying it? Yes or no? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: buy it because he's a Green Bay Packer. They own
Speaker 1: the rights and he's not going anywhere. All right, Giants
Speaker 1: would take phone calls for sae Quon Barkley time. Would
Speaker 1: you trade him? Of course I would offer. You know,
Speaker 1: if I'm the Giants, I'm in a desperate situation to
Speaker 1: get as many quality players as I can, and I
Speaker 1: think I could go out and find a running back,
Speaker 1: so yes, I would. Jimmy g our friend from the
Speaker 1: Chicagoland area, the forty Niners quarterback shoulder surgery after ansurgery,
Speaker 1: will he be at forty nine? I think he's a
Speaker 1: forty nine er. I think you know everybody's dangling him
Speaker 1: out there to be traded. He's twenty four million. Trey
Speaker 1: Lance has nothing. You got two guys that are really
Speaker 1: cost effective under the salary cap, and he's led him
Speaker 1: to not only the Super Bowl, but to the Championship game.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Tom According to the Cardinals, they still have
Speaker 1: respect for Murray and his agent. Do you do you
Speaker 1: after that manifesto the other day? I think the agents
Speaker 1: are getting too much power. And for an agent to
Speaker 1: send a manifesto to tell what, tell what we're gonna
Speaker 1: need for Kyler Murray to continue to be a Cardinal?
Speaker 1: You know I don't like that. I'll give it four
Speaker 1: pintokios on that one, four pinocchios that I ever respect for.
Speaker 1: That's Jim Miller, Tom Thair. Thanks to Adam Dazinski. Also
Speaker 1: to our producers with the Chicago Bears. Damn Bialdy and
Speaker 1: Jordan Tredap. I'm Jeff Jonny K. Thanks for listening me, everybody.
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