WEBVTT - 2022 NFL Scouting Combine Preview | All Access 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.760 The following is a presentation of the Chicago Bears Network 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.800 and Chicago Bears dot Com. Download the Chicago Bears official 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.800 mobile app for up to the minute Bears content every 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:16.479 day and now welcome to Bears All Access, your all 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:21.200 access passing to Chicago Bears football. Bears All Access is 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:25.239 brought to you by IGS Energy and sponsored by Athletical 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.960 Physical Therapy and CDW March blows in with some big 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.080 time football. We are back in business and coming to 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.000 you tonight from the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Indiana. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.000 I believe the thirty fifth consecutive year with a future 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.680 yet to be determined. I'm Jeff Joniak, voice of the 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.400 Chicago Bears with my broadcast partner, A News Radio seven 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.520 eighty WBBM is mister Tom there. Tom is not here, 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.920 He's tucked away at home. But Tom, we got Jim Miller, 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.840 our sidekick here, our special guest each and every week. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.840 We don't even want them to rest until segment two. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.400 We're bringing him m right now out of the cannon. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.800 But Tom, you you had a chance today to listen 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.759 in and watch and take a gander on what's going 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.520 on in the NFL. We heard from Ryan Poles today, 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.240 the Bear's new general manager and head coach. Matt Eberflus 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.920 will here comments from those guys as welcoming up here 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:16.840 in the next couple of segments, but quickly before I 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:21.120 bring Jimmy in here. Any overall tone from what you 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.360 picked up from those two fellaws today, Yeah, two things. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.640 If I'm an offensive lineman, I better be ready to 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.760 lose some weight and get stronger. And now, when I 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.959 listened to Matti Eberflus, you know, every time I went 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.320 to a coaching transition, whether it being in college from 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.200 Dan Divine to Jerry file So or in the USFL 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:44.120 from George Allen to Frank Kush or in the NFL, 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.120 it's always the anticipation of that next higher how much 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:52.040 it affects your job personally, but also one of the 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.240 message that they're sending every time they're get in front 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.760 of a microphone. And I'd like to hear Ryan Poles saying, 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.880 look at we need to get lighter and master and 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.240 then Matt continues the process of talking about how hard 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.240 they're gonna work in the expected effort out of every 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.080 one of these guys. And you know, Jeff. When I 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.480 listen to these guys and I see how prepared and 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.840 how immediate their answers are at the podium, it makes 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.680 me excited about training camp and going there to watch 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.280 these guys work every day, because I don't think anybody's 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.480 gonna be putting their hand up to get a veteran 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.160 day off within the first week of the training camp. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.400 The OTAs and the mini camps are going to be 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.800 as meaningful as some of the first practices of the 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:38.640 training camp. But guys, you're unnoticed, be ready to be 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.200 prepared for whatever position you play, the effort you're expected 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:46.640 to give, and don't come in twenty pounds overweight, Jim. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.880 I think Tom's fired up and ready to go. He's 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.240 gonna be hitting the gym like Miller has. Because Tom, 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.560 you haven't seen him, He's dropped a good twenty five 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.640 thirty pounds. I had to do a double take. He 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.960 looks fifteen years younger. Hey, Mattieberflusy inspired me. I mean 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.519 he didn't get leaned in me. But you know, I 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.520 echo what Tom says. I think you do get a 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.679 sense of the standard of what they expect. I think 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.519 you know, just in my conversations with both Ryan Poles 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.960 and Matt Eberflus. They've already talked about what type of 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.280 player they want. You know, every player or every team, 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.280 I should say, has a culture of who's going to 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.800 be the right fit. They've already talked about the schemes 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.200 of what they're going to deploy offensively and defensively, and 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.160 what type of players they're going to need within those schemes. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.440 So they're already on the same page from that standpoint. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.840 And you know, much like Tom I, you know, I 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.240 got to kick out of Mattiberflus today. He's like, you know, 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.080 it's pretty cool. He said, I reached out to all 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.000 a lot of the Chicago Bears alumni, whether it's a 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.640 Lacquer or Single Terry or Buckus and all these great 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.640 players that he's now got on his rolodecks and some 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.160 of the stuff that they're texting him. He's getting inspired. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.080 You know, I think he understands, and I've said this 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.200 numerous times. When I walked in Pittsburgh, that tradition and 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.680 that history reeked all over the place when you walked 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.920 in that foyer of all three Rivers Stadium and the 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.640 Lombardi trophies are there, and I felt that way when 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.400 I walked through hellis haul of the history of the 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.040 game and how important it is. And I got a good, 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.680 good conversation with both Ryan Poles and Matt Eberflus that 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.799 they take that to heart. And he said, it's pretty 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.880 cool when you get those texts from whether it's a 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.280 Tom Thayer or former players that he's communicating with, of 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:26.360 what their challenges and you know what they need to represent. 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.680 And I'm sure Tom at those messages. I don't know 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.880 if he told you, Jim what those messages were from 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.840 a guy like like butt kissu, you know, and earlier. 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.960 But these guys, when they hear about toughness, when they 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.560 hear about playing fast and physical and giving great effort, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.120 those are all catch phrases that are thrown around by 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.920 a lot of coaches. But if you don't put some 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.760 teeth into it, and if you don't demand it from 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.240 the time you get there until the time you are 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.960 asked to leave or you choose to leave, then it's 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.839 it's just going to be lip service. There is no 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.839 way these two guys, Tom are given this lip service. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.800 This is how it's going to be. And you're gonna 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.680 have to adjust to it. Yeah, I mean this listen, man, 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.400 the line has been drawn in the sand since day one, 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.320 but it's kind of reinforced every time they get in 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.920 front of a microphone. So you get there, you get 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.880 hired for the job, you're really not familiar with the building, 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.760 with the talent, with the video of the games from 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.040 this past couple of years, and then all of a 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.080 sudden you start a little bit more study. You get involved, 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.800 you know, from the small thing of having eye to 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.240 eye contact in the same room as Darnell Mooney and 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.279 how much he impressed him. So you know, it's nice 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.320 to see the positive reflections. But again, the message is 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.039 out there and it's repeated every time, kind of in 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.479 a different tone, and as the seer as the season 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.000 kind of approaches, the seriousness to every one of the 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.400 messages that they put out there, it's it's it's clear 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.640 of what's expected out of these guys in the position. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.960 They're philosophical thinking about football itself, and even Ryan say 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.600 and look, man, we need to figure out which offensive 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.440 lineman fit in the best position they fit in, so 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:09.200 there is no predetermined spot that look, you're gonna go here, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.800 this is where you're gonna stay. Look, you're gonna come 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.080 to this position initially, you're gonna compete for that position, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.479 and if we feel that you fit somewhere else more 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.800 effectively for us, we'll make the change. Philosophically. Let's talk 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.000 about that a little bit. Jim and Tom. The offensive 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.520 lineman will start with Jimmy though, because he was ducked 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.040 under center with those guys up front, so it was 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.800 clear they want him lighter and quicker for what they 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.200 want to do. Whatever it is they want to do, 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.200 lighter and quicker wand Castillo wanted them as big as 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:43.240 possible up front, so he wanted really big guys. What 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.800 do you take from that in terms of what they 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.000 might now look like as an offense from the guys 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.600 that I think they're going to be an outside zone 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.960 running team, I think is what it tells you they're 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.080 not going to be a gap scheme. Again, this is 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.960 in the history of this offense, right, everybody's gonna say, oh, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.120 this is the Big Fae offense. We'll know it's not 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.120 the McVeigh offense. Then people say, well's the Kyle Shanahan offense. Well, 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:07.080 it's not the Kyle shanahanoffs. This is the Mike Shanahan offense. Offense. 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.040 It was the outside zone run. Tommy can explain it 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.160 to all the listeners. That's what they did out there 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.960 in Denver with Terrell Davis. What were though all those 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.280 offensive linemen, they were legitimately two ninety five to three 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.880 h five at the most. They were light, they were 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.680 quick on their feet, they could move, and so that's 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.760 what I think it's gonna tell you. It's going to 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.160 be an outside zone scheme. May you know, they may 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.040 work in some pulling schemes as well with the powerplays 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.640 and things like that, but I think and then all 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.080 the play action will come off of that from that standpoint. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.800 Also for the screen game, offensive linemen need to be 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.680 able to run up field and get to the second 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.360 level to be able to block down the field. So 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.640 you gotta have guys that can move if you're going 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.800 to go that round. And in that sense, Tommy as 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.720 well quarterback who gets rid of the football quicker quickly, 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.440 and that's what they're going to ask as well of 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.760 justin fields. So does this meantime there are no more 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.880 three hundred thirty five pound tackles on the Bears in 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.560 the future, how would you break that down? Then rife, 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.480 they'll be there exactly what Jim says. I if they 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.920 display the athleticism from the size that they're blessed with, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.480 gifted with, or developed in the weight room throughout their 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.040 course of time, then yeah, this is what you can 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.440 go in here and compete at. But you know, Jeff, 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.880 if I'm running, if I'm kind of this conception of 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.440 the outside zone and I need speed to get to 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.800 the point of attack, and if you're a tenth of 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.040 a second too slow, if you're not moving out of 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.040 your stance real well, if you're a little off balance 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.240 when you try to move at the beginning of the 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.000 snap count, then yeah, I'm gonna have to make subtle 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.439 changes with you. And I don't think we can ignore 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.760 a guy that they hired last week and Jimmy Arthur, 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.960 because he's gonna have control of the weight room. So 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.240 it's a fine line to have these guys be able 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:55.640 to confidently and efficiently lose some weight but still gain strength. 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.880 And I do think that's gonna be one of the 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.960 key ingredients here, because the better athletes they have in 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.000 their stance, they have a wider variety of plays they 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.760 can run. Let's use the example of Trent Williams right 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.240 Kyle Shanahan's offense six five, three hundred twenty pounds left tackle. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.160 Some concerning the best game. Remember when he was motioning 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.439 him he can move? Yeah, that's a lot. That's an 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.600 offensive alignment over three fifteen three twenty Who can move? 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.719 All right? Sounds good, Jim Miller, Tom there, We're through 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.240 one segment of Bears All Access brought to you by 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.160 IGS Energy. Coming up, we'll hear from comments earlier today 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.640 with general manager Ryan Pulls with the Bears. This is 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.480 Bears All Access with our producer Adam Stadinski at our 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.720 Score Studios on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.600 Welcome back to Bears All Access brought to you by 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.559 IGS Energy. Choose clean energy for your home at igs 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.960 dot com because every good choice adds up to a 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.800 better world. With Tom there, I'm Jeff Joniac and our 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.600 special guests each week from Sirius XM NFL Radios moving 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.720 the chains, and thanks to Sirious XM for helping us 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.400 out here tonight from Indianapolis at the Scouting Combine. Good 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.840 to have you alongside with us as we break down 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:08.160 today's festivities with the Bears, Brass speaking and all around 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.760 the league. Jim was doing interviews all day with coaches 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.040 and general managers. I think it's a cool thing. They're 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.199 not all here, they're not all coming, they're not all 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.960 obligated to do it, but just a little sneak peek. 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.040 They're not gonna tell you what they're gonna do or 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.200 give you evaluations on who's going to be a cap 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.840 casualty or who they're thinking about resigning and free agency, 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:27.319 or what they're gonna do and go out and get it, 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.000 but they'll give you some context. You gotta use your 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.200 two years and listen to what they say to where 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.440 you're I think you're gonna go. Yeah, I thought today 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.760 I talked to Arthur Smith, and I'll tell you what, man, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.319 I'm impressed with him as a head coach of the 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.160 Atlanta Falcons. One because they were in meaningful games towards 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.480 the end of the season and they did not have 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.640 a lot of salary cap space. You knew last year 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.080 because they had to trade Julio Jones to clear up 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.800 even more space. To you know, they didn't they signed it. 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.600 I think only one of free agent because they couldn't 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.920 afford it, and they still have more cleaning up to do, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.600 so they're going to be focused on the draft. I 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.240 think other teams are in that boat as well. When 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.400 you look at say New Orleans, you know that just 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.520 won't have the cap space. New Orleans just cleared up 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.200 twenty four million dollars today and they still have another 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.440 thirty million to go. So and there's a lot of 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.679 teams in that boat. But then you have other teams 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:18.320 that we'll have somebody to spend. It is a buyer's market. 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.440 They've got to be smart at the contracts they're gonna 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.600 really pose to guys and the team to really look at. 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.320 And everybody accuses Mike Brown of being frugal. Why are 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.720 they in the Super Bowl? They not only draft well, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.360 but look at the free agents they signed last year. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.720 Trey Henderson, what a great signing, you know, and Mike Hilton, 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:39.920 you know, comes over from the Steelers in lo and 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.520 behold they find themselves in the Super Bowl. So I 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.120 think teams just got to be very smart about their 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.640 business decisions. And then of course you got to nail 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.240 at it in the draft. You got to nail your 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.720 draft picks, not all of them, you know, I think 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.280 we know. It's kind of a fifty percent type of deal. 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.960 Some teams are better at it than others. Like I 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.000 look at a team like Dallas, who drafts better than Dallas. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.679 Go look at the roster. All their starters, they're all 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.400 draft picks. They're all draft picks other than Amari Cooper 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.719 who they brought over from the Raiders. Dak Prescott was 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.600 a third round draft pick. Zekiel Elliott first all, they're 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.360 all their whole offensive lines drafted. Ceedee Lamb was a 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.520 draft pick. Delvin Schultzer tight end was a draft pick. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.160 Want me to go through their defense? They're all pick 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.080 it's a Bear show. No, don't go through the defense. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.240 That's why. But that's going to be the challenge for 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.400 the Bears to ye. So select guys and free to 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:35.599 see that they know will fit the Bear system scheme wise, offensive, defensively, 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.240 what they're trying to do, and then nail the picks 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.120 that fit what they're trying to do. And this year 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:41.920 there's five and tom we got we got a second, 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.960 we got a third, we got two, five's got a six. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.400 So let me ask you this because today it was 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.480 brought up. You may hear some of it here tonight 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:54.320 from Polls or Eberflus, But Tommy, about there again, everybody 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.640 talks about culture. We heard a lot about culture, and 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.839 every culture based on who's running the show, is going 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.679 to be slightly different, different expectations. You want a type team, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.840 you want good chemistry. Of course, you got to have 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.719 some great players, but you gotta have cornerstones. And I'm 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.320 wondering because they're not gonna say it yet. Yeah, it's 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.120 Justin Fields. Yeah it's real Quant Smith, Tommy, But do 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.560 you feel that they have now analyzed it enough because 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.320 what they've done is make profile tapes of every position 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.720 of what exactly they're looking for, so that the GM 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.680 and the scouts are on the same page as what 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.000 the head coach and position coaches are looking for. Do 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:32.400 you think there's carryover of some of those guys that 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:37.160 are cornerstone pieces for chemistry? Are you wanting to bring 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.440 in new types of cornerstones to complement what they have 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.920 right now with Justin Fields and real Quant Smith just 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.120 for starters right there? I mean, you're always looking for 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.520 those dream players, the guys that are going to set 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.719 the standard inside the building. What type of culture do 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.920 they come from? If there are a draft choice in 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.760 their college atmosphere, what type of culture do they come 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.760 from if they are an NFL free agent in what 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.120 type of backgrounds do they have? Accordingly, Because you know, 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.240 one thing, if when you're a free agent, you're looking 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.280 at coming to a new team that has a new 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:12.480 head coach, these guys have great work ethics because they 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.880 know what's going to be expected of them when they 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.920 come here for their first go around as an NFL 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.440 free agent. And then if you have a guy that 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.480 is a college pick, you have to understand what is 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:28.560 their reputation individually, how well do they play when they're tired, 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.720 What was the requirements of their coaching staff throughout the 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.840 latter parts of their college career in where they expected 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.720 to do as much or did they gain too much 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.240 respect in their college atmosphere that they kind of got 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.120 coddled a little bit because it's kind of hard to 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.440 bring those guys back to earth, and so all those 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.480 things you have to take in consideration. But if you're 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.480 out there investigating an NFL free agent, then you probably 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.320 have a good understanding of what their background is what 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.000 their work affic is. But Jeff, you really never know 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.400 until you get them in front of you and they 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.680 are playing fatigued and you got to see how hard 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.840 they play. Yeah, it was interesting, and I thought Ryan 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.120 Poles made a great point today when he sat down 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.000 with Serious XM Radio. You can and it's not just 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.160 Ryan Poles. Other teams kind of solidified it for me 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.360 when they said that. Arthur Smith and other guys that 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.480 we interviewed today said that as well, you can get 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:34.360 a player's mindset by just watching him. Watch, you know. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.320 For example, for the listeners out there, let's say a 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.080 receiver catches the ball, is he lowering his shoulder to 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.760 get extra yardage? Or is he running out of bounce? 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.120 It's something as small as that. Or you can sit 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.160 in the meeting room, hey man, tell us why you 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:52.520 ran out of bounce here? Well you know, business decision? Yeah, 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.400 you know, and you can get that or say during 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.200 an eighteen minute interview, because it's essentially what it is. 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.880 A player may be able to fake it through eighteen minutes. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.920 But again I had another coach say, well, we went 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.360 halfway through the interview and said, well, what happened here 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.880 on this play and the players started to blame his coaches. Yeah, 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.240 coach turned on the light and said, hey man, interviews done. Yeah, 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:19.840 that's not what we're looking for. You didn't tell the 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.120 player that, hey man, that's thanks for coming, you know, 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.840 but they got the information that they needed that this 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.840 guy was kind of a finger pointer. Hey, blaming the coaches. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.720 Coach did this, They used me the wrong way. This 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.320 at the other thing. You know, you can gain a 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.760 lot from those interviews. Yeah, Tom, you gotta go. You 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.600 gotta rely on the tape because you know, frankly, and 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.040 it's no different than if any of us were going 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.680 to a job interview and you know, I don't know, 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.280 you might have an agent still, Dolia Jim. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.400 so you know they get they rehearse you a little 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.960 bit on what you know the other side is looking for. Tom. 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.680 I know is never I don't even know if you 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.880 had a player agent. Tom, I think you did everything 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.360 on your own, yourself made man. But you know they're 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.800 rehearsed a little bit. So you gotta find a way then, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.439 because there's ways to even trip up the rehearsal, Like 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.400 you tap on a guy's emotions, Tom, you find out 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.679 what really gets them going, or what might aggravate them 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.160 a little bit, and then they'll tell you the truth. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.680 But the tape though, so Tom, like you said, fatigued 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.480 in the fourth quarter. So I guess I'm watching fourth 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.520 quarter of a defense has been on the field for 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.080 thirty five minutes and see who's playing hard? Is that 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.520 what you're talking about? Yeah, all those types of elements. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.800 I'm gonna look at a safety. When there's a running 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.080 back that breaks to the second level and has some 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.520 open space, does he come at that ball carrier with 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.600 willingness to make a hard hit tackle or is he 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.160 trying to strip the ball away from the ball carrier 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.160 instead of making the tackle. Are those types of things 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.480 that you have to study too. And the thing that's 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:52.480 interesting about interviews nowadays because these agents get these players 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.240 so pre prepared and tell them the right things to say, 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.920 and all that's good and well until there be an 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.639 interview in that agent not sitting next to them. And 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.359 it's the same thing as a player, Jeff, because we 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.960 stand there every single day at training camp practices and 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.040 you got the coaches surrounding the huddle, and if someone 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.520 makes a mistake, there's a coach right in his face 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.560 immediately to tell him how to make him an adjustment. 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:18.560 And then the first time you go and do a 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.200 game and you're out in the middle of the field 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.560 and there are no coaches around you, that's when you 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.399 really see the difference in a player that needs a 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.320 coach standing next to him, or there's a player that 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.280 can handle it in the middle of the field by themselves, 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.399 and how to recover and you know how to have 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.560 you know, get a good play after a bad play. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:44.200 That's time there. Jim Miller, Jeff Jonik. Earlier today, general 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.160 manager Ryan Poles meeting the media for the first time 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.760 at the scouting count by and looking at what they 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.359 have on the roster right now and where they're going. Yeah, 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.480 there's some really good players, you know in the PRESSUFS 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.720 we talk about justin we talked about Roquan Those guys 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.800 are talented players and we're to get our hands on 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:06.680 them and see where their ceiling is. And really there's again, 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:08.880 with all of the free agents that we have this year, 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.040 there's a lot of needs in every place. And it's 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.240 not just starters, but it's depth. And we all know 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.159 when you go through a whole season, a lot of 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.280 times that starting eleven twenty two is not going to 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.199 be the group that you finished the season with. So 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.280 it's important for us to really make sure that our 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.800 depth is taken care of as well. When you looked 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.640 at the table from this press season of your offensive line, 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.359 the players you have a under contract, how do you 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:36.919 evaluate that crew that you've got it in ability right now? Yeah, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.239 you know, we're gonna change it up a little bit, 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.680 just in terms of the style. So a lot of 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.240 those guys and the message has been pretty clear. We 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.360 gotta change body types a little bit, we gotta get lighter, 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:54.840 we gotta get quicker, and through that, you know, I 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.879 think there's some young talent that just needs to be 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.359 pressed and that's part of our jobs to create petition 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:01.679