WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: First Quarter Review

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 6>with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 8>It is Monday, September thirtieth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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<v Speaker 8>episode number thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, live.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, let's talk to this today. We're going to

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<v Speaker 8>do a quarter recap. First quarter recap. It is not

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<v Speaker 8>the first quarter of the game, but the first quarter

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<v Speaker 8>of the season.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we will be recapped.

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<v Speaker 9>Why are you looking at.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, Brian, We're gonna recap the first quarter of the season.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just gonna say that, all right. So what we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna do is, I'm gonna have some names.

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<v Speaker 2>Hear Ambar's first quarter recap from the game of the game.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, for those who are like, what the heck is

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<v Speaker 9>going on? Right before the start of the show, Derek

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<v Speaker 9>is like, Okay, for the show, we're gonna recap the

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<v Speaker 9>first quarter. And then that was that. And then in

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<v Speaker 9>my head, I'm like, wait, of the game, Like what

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<v Speaker 9>are we doing? Like that sounds like an awful show?

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<v Speaker 9>Why are we recapping the first quarter of the game.

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<v Speaker 9>And he's like, no, it's of the first quarter of

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<v Speaker 9>the season.

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<v Speaker 6>Come on.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm like, Okay, relax, let's just do the show, all.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, So we relax. Now we're gonna talk about first

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<v Speaker 8>quarter of season. Now, here's what I'm gonna do. Before

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<v Speaker 8>we get into that, we're gonna talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>about some injuries. But once we get to the player

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<v Speaker 8>to the first season, I have some questions for you guys.

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<v Speaker 8>Some player evals to have some names that I want

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<v Speaker 8>to just get you guys to give me an opinion

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<v Speaker 8>on what you think of.

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<v Speaker 4>Their first quarter outstanding and uh.

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<v Speaker 8>And we'll go through some of those, hopefully hits, some

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<v Speaker 8>names that we haven't talked about as much for folks,

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<v Speaker 8>just to give them an idea of where everyone is.

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<v Speaker 8>But let's start first with the news that really has

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<v Speaker 8>been been the most predominant news for the Cowboys ever

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<v Speaker 8>since the game. Michael Parsons and de Marcus Lawrence both

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<v Speaker 8>gonna miss time.

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<v Speaker 4>Both have injuries.

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<v Speaker 8>Brian, what do we know about their injuries and and

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<v Speaker 8>what do we know at this point or what are

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<v Speaker 8>we're surmising at this point with regard to their the

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<v Speaker 8>amount of time they'll miss.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I could, I could tell you the amount of time.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that? Does that work work? You're probably not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get Micah back until after the bye.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of two games you got and.

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<v Speaker 5>Then yeah you got this, get the Pittsburgh game, you

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<v Speaker 5>got this game. Yeah, the Pittsburgh game, you get the

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<v Speaker 5>Detroit game you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to buy.

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<v Speaker 5>And then now you're looking to potentially get him back

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<v Speaker 5>at that spot for the forty for the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 5>When you look at the injury to Tank, and I

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<v Speaker 5>know that Todd Archer is reporting a List Frank injury,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a foot injury, which Todd is very accurate

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<v Speaker 5>on this stuff, so I would trust exactly what he's

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<v Speaker 5>saying there. All right now, when you ask people in

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<v Speaker 5>the building about this. They said they really don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>really a firm timetable. They probably won't know for a

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<v Speaker 5>good two weeks and then we'll see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 5>But they were thinking that four weeks on this thing

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<v Speaker 5>was very optimistic. So this thing's going to likely go

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<v Speaker 5>longer than four weeks, is what they're looking.

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<v Speaker 2>At right now.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's kind of what your timetable, Micah closer to being,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the three weeks, and then Tank will see

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<v Speaker 5>what happens, you know, after an evaluation of two weeks

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<v Speaker 5>and then another two weeks and then we'll see where

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<v Speaker 5>it goes from there. But it sounds like that one's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be pretty pretty significant and you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>any probably you know, maybe six weeks if you're really

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<v Speaker 5>on it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, when you look at this team and what's happened

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<v Speaker 8>since last season where they allowed two of their their

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<v Speaker 8>defensive ends, dranch Armstrong and Dante Folo to both leave

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<v Speaker 8>in free agency. And by the way, I don't want

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<v Speaker 8>to be a revision's history guy. I think back at

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<v Speaker 8>the time, I was like, for the amount of money

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<v Speaker 8>they are generated that that's going to cost, I'm comfortable

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<v Speaker 8>with the Cowboys letting them walk. But obviously you didn't

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<v Speaker 8>predict this. You got those two guys gone, then you

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<v Speaker 8>get to training camp, you lose Sam Williams. At this

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<v Speaker 8>point you got Marshawn Kneelan, But what else do you

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<v Speaker 8>have and how does how do the Cowboys recover and

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<v Speaker 8>make this go without these two defensive ends.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there should be a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>confidence in what Marshawn Kneeland and Chauncey golds and I

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<v Speaker 3>assume that's going to be the one two punch should

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<v Speaker 3>be able to produce.

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<v Speaker 10>Is it going to be at Mike and de Laws level?

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 3>There's going to be some responsibility that falls on the

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<v Speaker 3>second level on the interior defensive line, even in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 3>The rest of the defense is going to have to

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<v Speaker 3>pick up the slack for sure. But you look at

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<v Speaker 3>what Marshaw Kneelan can do from a power perspective, I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's some things that he can do in the world

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<v Speaker 3>game that can kind of match what d Law brings from.

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<v Speaker 10>A skill set standpoint.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it as refined and as polished as what d

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<v Speaker 3>Law has brought in is eleven years in the NFL?

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still a rookie at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>but he can kind of give you that big presence

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<v Speaker 3>off the edge, kind of help conceal the edge. I

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<v Speaker 3>look at Chauncey Golston and I know we've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>it quite a bit. I love Chauncey Golsten way more

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<v Speaker 3>as an edge, So I think this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>really allow him to flourish and finally play the position

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<v Speaker 3>that I feel like he's best at and do it

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<v Speaker 3>for a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 10>Stack some reps there.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as what he could bring from a pass

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<v Speaker 3>rush perspective, I mean, we're gonna have to see.

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<v Speaker 10>I do like his athleticism off the edge.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he brings some power to but all in all,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna have to be an all out approach from

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<v Speaker 3>those two guys, Tyruswe Carl Lass and anybody else that

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<v Speaker 3>they bring in. They're gonna have to rotate bodies in.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna have to figure this thing out for at

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<v Speaker 3>least a couple of weeks. My information kind of corroborates

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<v Speaker 3>and and Brian has a lot more, but it corroborates

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<v Speaker 3>what he was saying as far as Micah probably not

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<v Speaker 3>getting him back a'til after the bye week, and then

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<v Speaker 3>as far as d law looking like an ir stump there.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, this conversation is making my heart race very very fast.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm like starting to freak out because we already know

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<v Speaker 9>the struggles that were there prior to these two injuries,

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<v Speaker 9>very very important injuries. And we've also seen that it's

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<v Speaker 9>not just the past rush or the defensive line what

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<v Speaker 9>they're doing there, but it's also what it creates for

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<v Speaker 9>the rest of the defense. We've we've seen it with

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<v Speaker 9>the linebackers. When the defensive line plays better, it allows

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<v Speaker 9>your lampmackers to be a lot better and execute those

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<v Speaker 9>plays better.

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<v Speaker 10>But it's just.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know how you get through it. I get it.

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<v Speaker 9>People want to say, oh, next man up, Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>that's what happens in the in the game, Next man up.

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<v Speaker 9>But it's just it's tough giving all the struggles that

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<v Speaker 9>they've already been having.

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<v Speaker 5>You need to find a way to turn the clock

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<v Speaker 5>back for Carl Lawson a little bit.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you need.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean he's been a he's been kind of a

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<v Speaker 5>spot player for you right now, and he should be

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<v Speaker 5>ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've we've been through now a month of

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<v Speaker 2>the he's and he should be ready to go.

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<v Speaker 5>Conditioning should be fine, you know, instead of playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen plays he needs to play. He's probably gonna have

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<v Speaker 5>to play forty plays, you know, but they need him

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<v Speaker 5>to kind of get back to that that I like

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<v Speaker 5>what we and I know you're going to go through

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<v Speaker 5>some players, and I guarantee you that you know that

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<v Speaker 5>that this these edges. Kneeland is a guy you're probably

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<v Speaker 5>going to talk about. And you know, Nick, I think

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<v Speaker 5>gave a pretty damn good assessment of him as a player,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, this could be a great opportunity for him,

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<v Speaker 5>It could be a great opportunity for Golston. They just

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<v Speaker 5>can't afford anything else to happen to these guys. And

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<v Speaker 5>it might even be to the point where we might

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<v Speaker 5>see them bring somebody in to work somebody out some

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<v Speaker 5>of these defensive ends. I have this group I called

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<v Speaker 5>my Gang of Seven, which are guys and gals around

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<v Speaker 5>the league that are in player personnel departments. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to get them to say, Okay, give me

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<v Speaker 5>all your best practice squad poachers. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 5>have to go poach a guy off a practice squad.

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<v Speaker 5>It's never a bad thing because those guys are, those

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<v Speaker 5>guys are playing, you know, those guys are practicing.

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<v Speaker 2>Those guys are.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, so if you can find that guy me,

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<v Speaker 5>that would be better then because I need guys that.

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<v Speaker 2>Can play right now. I don't need somebody that's been

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<v Speaker 2>at home and.

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<v Speaker 5>Hasn't done anything and then now all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 5>you have to ramp them up for three four weeks

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<v Speaker 5>and you don't get what you need out of it.

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<v Speaker 5>But I would consider poaching a guy off somebody's practice squad.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, if you identify maybe a young player or

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<v Speaker 5>somebody like that. You kind of said, hey, we like

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<v Speaker 5>this guy in college. You know, he's he's at the Buccaneers.

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<v Speaker 5>Can we go get here, you know, put tank on

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<v Speaker 5>ir and then go get you know, go poach one

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<v Speaker 5>of these guys. This is where it can kind of

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<v Speaker 5>be for a personnel guy. Could be a little fun,

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<v Speaker 5>you know that, you know, Hey, we got to figure

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<v Speaker 5>out something here. Let's let's figure out the best options here.

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<v Speaker 5>And their pro department does a pretty damn good job.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's the route I think they might go to.

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<v Speaker 3>That same point, I had a conversation in the last

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<v Speaker 3>few days, and it was saying that, yeah, we're having

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<v Speaker 3>to put trust into Marshall neland into Chauncey Golston, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're putting trust in a Will mclauch because that was

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that they wanted to go get in the

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<v Speaker 3>second round last year. Okay, now he's gonna need to

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<v Speaker 3>be steps stepping into a starting role and the trust

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<v Speaker 3>is really falling on the clay in his department, as

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<v Speaker 3>Brian says, here to be able to identify that pick

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<v Speaker 3>and hope that he can step in and be ready

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<v Speaker 3>to play in a situation like this.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think for me, when I look at this,

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<v Speaker 8>the first question obviously becomes, how do you generate pressure.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Marshawn Nealand can be fine on the edge

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<v Speaker 8>playing against the run. I think a Golson can do

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<v Speaker 8>the same thing. I just don't know if you've got

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<v Speaker 8>anybody that's really gonna scare another team when it comes

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<v Speaker 8>to the pass rush. And so this is where and

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not sure this is Zimmer's game. I know he

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<v Speaker 8>likes to run the a gap begap blitzes, but really

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<v Speaker 8>I think if you're going to generate pressure You're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>have to bring pressure from a lot of different places,

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<v Speaker 8>whether it's linebackers. You do you line up over shown

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<v Speaker 8>on the outside and rush it from the outside. Do

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<v Speaker 8>you send corners? Do you send safeties? Like you have

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<v Speaker 8>to do a lot of creative stuff. And I don't

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<v Speaker 8>know if that is that Zimmer's defense. Does he have

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<v Speaker 8>that kind of thing in his day?

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<v Speaker 5>We saw the other day the Giants had a play

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<v Speaker 5>where they actually made It was a pretty good play,

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<v Speaker 5>but they picked up they picked up Jordan Lewis on

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<v Speaker 5>the blitz. It was a slot blitz, so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you know he's got that in the bag of tricks

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<v Speaker 5>to try and but you're absolutely right. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be about uh, you know, finding Kendrick's, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and trying to get to these guys, get to Kendricks.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they need to get healthy in the secondary though, too.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a lot easier to send people and blitz people

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that when you're not playing with your

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<v Speaker 5>fourth or fifth corner, you know, and those guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think you're gonna get I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna get Bland back this week. You know, we'll see

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<v Speaker 5>what happens, and you know the Detroit and and and

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<v Speaker 5>beyond the sixth week mark or what is it.

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<v Speaker 10>A four week mark, but six weeks since he had

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<v Speaker 10>the surgery.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, so there you know that. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>he's coming along really well. I was just told it's

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<v Speaker 5>not going to be this week, so you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>getting back for Detroit. But if you if you know

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<v Speaker 5>that you can cover with if you can cover with Digs,

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<v Speaker 5>you can cover with Bland, you can cover with Lewis,

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<v Speaker 5>it kind of makes up a little bit for the stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Then now you could take some chances with your linebackers

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<v Speaker 5>and and uh, you know, and and group like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Mayerslulfowl a year ago at Notre Dame three sacks. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's an interesting guy that they maybe a pressure perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about it on the Draft show. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>situational third down pass rusher and he can he can

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<v Speaker 3>get to the quarterback and if he's not sacking the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>he's at least generating pressure and altering the place.

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<v Speaker 5>Over shown too if you watched him at Texas was

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit you know some you know, former safety

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<v Speaker 5>and all.

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<v Speaker 4>That, but man, they rushed from the outside.

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<v Speaker 5>Alle Yeah, just anything you could do to create opportunity

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<v Speaker 5>for your guys, that's what you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 2>And and you know, but a lot of it is

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<v Speaker 2>covering on the back end. You know. If they don't

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<v Speaker 2>do that well enough, Blitzen ain't ain't gonna matter.

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<v Speaker 8>I know, this isn't gonna happen. But he did run

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<v Speaker 8>a three four when when Bill was here and maybe

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<v Speaker 8>morph a little bit and kind of get some of

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<v Speaker 8>those linebackers on the outside rushing that way rather than

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<v Speaker 8>having them, you know, having to try to put their

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<v Speaker 8>hand on the ground or try to figure out no

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<v Speaker 8>way to get him around that edge.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just that's the part I'm concerned about.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm really concerned about how they're going to get pass rush,

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<v Speaker 8>especially in situations where you play teams that have some

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<v Speaker 8>really good quarterback receiver combinations. I think you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 8>some of those here in the next several weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>And I wonder how much trust there is and Massie

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<v Speaker 3>Smith after the performance, That's what I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>say too, Yeah, because if let's say that they were

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<v Speaker 3>to move to a three four kind of help the

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<v Speaker 3>defense out a little bit, then you're putting a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of trust in the MAZI to be able to control

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<v Speaker 3>those gaps, really hold appliants exactly.

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<v Speaker 10>So I wonder how much absolutely it was.

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<v Speaker 3>His best game as a pro on Thursday night, and

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<v Speaker 3>you could tell after in the locker room. That's about

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<v Speaker 3>his upbeat and the most words I've heard from Mande

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<v Speaker 3>Smith since he's been here.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was actually good to see.

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<v Speaker 10>It was phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 8>You could see, you could see the level of pressure

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<v Speaker 8>kind of be lifted for a little bit. Yeah, obviously

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<v Speaker 8>it's a week to week in the NFL. You come back,

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<v Speaker 8>have a bad game next week, and it's all back.

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<v Speaker 8>But it was good to see him in that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>We got thirteen more of these. Let's go settle up,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt.

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<v Speaker 8>It is a second secondment of the Break Life WBC

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<v Speaker 8>we're gonna do. We're gonna do some player evaluations. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>gonna run down a list of names, and for each name,

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<v Speaker 8>I want you guys to tell me what you like

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<v Speaker 8>that you've seen so far in the first quarter and

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<v Speaker 8>where do you think their biggest need for improvement is?

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<v Speaker 8>All right, so let's start first with probably the guy that,

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<v Speaker 8>in my opinion on the offense, has gotten probably more

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<v Speaker 8>talk than most Tyler Tyler Tyler Goydon.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Nick Tyler Guiden.

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, through for the first four games, I

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<v Speaker 3>think having the context of how he has come into

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<v Speaker 3>the year is really important. Only having fourteen college starts

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<v Speaker 3>at being on the right side, yes, he was still

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<v Speaker 3>protecting a blind side of a quarterback, but moving to

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<v Speaker 3>the left side, there's still some things to work out

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<v Speaker 3>in that kind of situation. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if we call back to training camp in those first

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days, he was just beating Michael Parsons at

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<v Speaker 3>DeMarcus Lawrence over and over again, and everybody was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my goodness, so we already got another All Pro

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame left tackle. I was like, look, the

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<v Speaker 3>bumps and bruises are going to come along the way,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think we're starting to see those bumps and bruises.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you just ride the wave with Tyler Gouyden.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think more importantly, if Tyler Goeydon rides the

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<v Speaker 3>wave of Tyler Goyden, he's gonna be all right, especially

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<v Speaker 3>once you get to the end of the season and

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<v Speaker 3>he's literally doubled his amount of career starts. I think

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<v Speaker 3>by whenever you're looking up in December, he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more refined. But I think as far as

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<v Speaker 3>immediate immediate correction needs to be on the holding penalties,

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<v Speaker 3>it has to be on the discipline stuff. I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of a factor of him getting beat around

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<v Speaker 3>the edge with his feet and he needs to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of his stance a little bit quicker against some

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<v Speaker 3>certain guys, and as a result, he's been hooking some guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if he can just kind of whittle that

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<v Speaker 3>down a little bit, then he could start getting back

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<v Speaker 3>on that progression up swing, and I think it'll work

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<v Speaker 3>out just fine for him. As I've said from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to look up at the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>rookie season with all these first round picks, we probably

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<v Speaker 3>won't be talking about Tyler Geiden as one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best first round picks of the year. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>when we look up three four years from now and

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<v Speaker 3>those guys are starting to get their fifth year options,

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to be one of the most no brainers

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<v Speaker 3>to get that fifth year option. I think his development

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<v Speaker 3>is just going to go up.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, all I know, I think he's been he's been

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<v Speaker 9>all right now this last game, I mean, the penalties

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<v Speaker 9>came big into play, and that's something that he's going

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<v Speaker 9>to have to be very very mindful and learn where

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<v Speaker 9>to do. Everyone does it, everyone holds, So just figure

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<v Speaker 9>out how do you hide the hide that a little

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<v Speaker 9>better to where the officials are not calling a flag

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<v Speaker 9>on you. But he he he's the type of guy

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<v Speaker 9>that is very, very dedicated into the game. He will

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<v Speaker 9>put in the work. All that comes out of his

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<v Speaker 9>mouth anytime I've heard him speak, it's football, football, football, study,

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<v Speaker 9>learn practice. So I believe that this is something he's

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<v Speaker 9>going to look back into this past game and he's

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<v Speaker 9>going to keep working on improving week after week. But

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<v Speaker 9>I would say that just finding that comfort and just

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<v Speaker 9>believing in his strength. He's such a tall guy and

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<v Speaker 9>he's very powerful, So I think if he works on

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<v Speaker 9>his how do I say this this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is gonna sound weird lower body strength?

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<v Speaker 12>Uh?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, I was gonna say spreading his legs right, terrible.

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<v Speaker 9>I still said it, But the stance basically the stands

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<v Speaker 9>where his feet just kind of plank on there on. Yes,

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<v Speaker 9>that I just I need to improve my vocabulary. But yes,

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<v Speaker 9>just working on his stand and stands, and I think

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<v Speaker 9>he will get the job done. It's just it's just

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<v Speaker 9>part of where he's at in his career right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing to me they've thrown him deep into the

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<v Speaker 2>pool and said swim.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially his last game.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, they don't even give him of those little orange

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<v Speaker 5>life jackets to wear when you were a kid, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>around your neck. It was embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so big. He didn't want to wear it.

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<v Speaker 8>And they did the school school, yeah, swimming lessons there

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<v Speaker 8>you go figure it out.

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<v Speaker 10>It is.

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<v Speaker 5>It is like, yeah, like you know, sometimes he goes

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<v Speaker 5>all the way to the bottom, he touches and he

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<v Speaker 5>bounces back up to the top.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's uh.

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<v Speaker 5>They've got to figure out ways to give him a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more help if they can. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>there's gonna be some games coming up here and he's

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<v Speaker 5>already faced some guys that.

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<v Speaker 2>Can rush the passer.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, if you continually have him single block

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<v Speaker 5>eighty nine ninety percent of the snaps I get it, man,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, hey, good for him, but you're also crushing

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<v Speaker 5>him in a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of ways to where people are getting film on.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, take him hard inside, take him to the edge,

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:24.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, beat him when he's in this stance. So

0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.000
<v Speaker 5>he's gonna break him down this way. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 5>there's guys that are getting a lot of film and

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<v Speaker 5>my man.

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<v Speaker 2>Is in some survival mode.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, really the ball go, it's snapped a deck

0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.240
<v Speaker 5>and it's survival mode ball, you know, and that's you

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<v Speaker 5>know inside. You know, Cooper bebe this last game. You know,

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.000
<v Speaker 5>he was double team blocked eighty percent of the time.

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.359
<v Speaker 5>He was getting help. But they you know, Lawrence is

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<v Speaker 5>a good player, actually a great player for the Giants.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just kind of feel like you've got to

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<v Speaker 5>find some ways to kind of mix it up and

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<v Speaker 5>help and not let everybody just have a free rush

0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.360
<v Speaker 5>on him the way until he figured out the stance,

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.280
<v Speaker 5>the feet, the hands, everything about him needs to kind

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.720
<v Speaker 5>of be working. But you see it at times. There

0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 5>could be times when he's really good at it, and

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<v Speaker 5>then there's times where it's like, oh damn, here comes

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<v Speaker 5>survival mode. But I mean, the kid's tough and he

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't back down, and he's getting better. Though when he

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<v Speaker 5>knows it might be holding, he kind of puts his

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<v Speaker 5>hands up, you know, he like falls on the guy

0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:24.679
<v Speaker 5>and kind of puts his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Up so the officials don't call it.

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<v Speaker 5>But he gets his body positions bad at times, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he just got a lot of improvement he

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<v Speaker 5>needs on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But they got to help him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you mentioned his name, but let's move on to

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<v Speaker 4>Cooper Bebe.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Cooper Bebe.

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<v Speaker 3>I think whenever you look at his first four games

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<v Speaker 3>and you look at the stats on PFF about pressures

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<v Speaker 3>allowed and sacks allowed and things like that, he looks

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely phenomenal. He has been great, but I think there

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<v Speaker 3>are still some things in the running game that he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have to work on.

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<v Speaker 8>I think as you watch the game right like, they're

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<v Speaker 8>just thinking, you're, like, he's not as great.

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<v Speaker 3>Lawn a few times. Yeah, like Dexter Lawrence beat him

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<v Speaker 3>up a few times. The stats do not show it.

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<v Speaker 3>And hey, whenever you are a starting center, sometimes you're

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<v Speaker 3>able to get away with those things a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>easier than others, just because the nature of the defensive

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.399
<v Speaker 3>tackle position. And what success actually looks like from that

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<v Speaker 3>position just looks a little bit different from the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the eleven. But I think from a Cooper BB perspective,

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<v Speaker 3>I love what he's done in pass pro. I think

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<v Speaker 3>in run block there just has to be a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of correction that's going to have to be applied.

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<v Speaker 3>And we talked all year last year about how the

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<v Speaker 3>guys up front were a big catalyst towards the run

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<v Speaker 3>game not being as productive as it could have been.

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<v Speaker 3>I think as a unit all five, when you look

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<v Speaker 3>from a run blocking perspective, it has been better, but

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<v Speaker 3>there are still some guys that can improve a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Cooper BB is probably suspect number one

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<v Speaker 3>in that instance, just because you know what his development

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<v Speaker 3>will look like whenever he does get to his max

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 3>level of progression. So I think there is still some

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 3>learning going on with the center position, specifically in run block.

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<v Speaker 3>I think from a pass pro perspective, though he has

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<v Speaker 3>exceeded my expectations. I think he's been really strong in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle. He's he's created a really great depth of

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<v Speaker 3>pocket for Dak Prescott. I think that's only going to

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<v Speaker 3>improve as his time gets more more in depth.

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<v Speaker 5>The way the Cowboys run the ball, he's got to

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<v Speaker 5>be better, you know, and I mean I mean and

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<v Speaker 5>I mean better, because I think there's been times where

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<v Speaker 5>he has been better.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of their bigger.

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<v Speaker 5>Runs are him and Martin or him and Smith push

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<v Speaker 5>the middle and then the ball cuts behind them because

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't like to me, and nothing on the outside

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 5>for the Cowboys, there's nothing outside the tackle. It always

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<v Speaker 5>seems like it's in between either the tight end to

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<v Speaker 5>the center box, and that's where they try and kind

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 5>of take the ball inside and cut it from that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was that one run on Thursday night Reco

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it was a BB Smith and guid

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<v Speaker 3>and just kind of pushing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Huge, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>They you know, even the run that even the run

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<v Speaker 5>that Zeke got called back where they had two holdings

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 5>on the play that Tyler Smith and BB both which

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 5>I thought were questionable calls.

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<v Speaker 2>But still that that, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, the run part of it, that's how they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to him and those guards to do it because any

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<v Speaker 5>other way of running the football, we just haven't seen it.

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 5>We just haven't seen they be able to create. They

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 5>haven't got the ball to the edge with any effectiveness

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 5>unless it's a jet sweep or something like that. But

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 5>they're going to need him to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>better inside the pass block and stuff. Has actually been really, really,

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<v Speaker 5>really good because I was surprised to make a call,

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<v Speaker 5>make the snap, find out where you need to go,

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 5>and he's doing all that pretty well right now. He

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<v Speaker 5>did have the problems with when the twist stunts where

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 5>you pass and he would get too engaged. And when

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 5>you become so engaged, that allows the looper to come around,

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 5>and he's got to be He got better at just

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:46.879
<v Speaker 5>getting rid of that guy and then being there ready

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 5>for the looper to come around. So he's going to

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<v Speaker 5>see more of that. You know, people are gonna run

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 5>twist stunts inside and stuff, and he's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to handle.

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<v Speaker 3>Much of the word surprising, and I think an extra

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<v Speaker 3>surprise element is effect of the system he came from

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 3>at Kansas State being so run down it and just

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 3>loading up and you know, twelve and twenty two personnel

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 3>and just running the ball downhill. That he's been so

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<v Speaker 3>great in pass pro and it's not that they don't

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 3>pass the ball at Kansas State. I mean they spread

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 3>it out. Chris Cleman does a good job of being

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 3>able to get those receivers involved too. But it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty surprising how well he's been able to pick up

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<v Speaker 3>the pass block.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think, And this is not a shot to

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<v Speaker 9>to be yaddish.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, he's actually looked pretty good, has.

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<v Speaker 4>Been pretty good from what I've seen.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, but no shot to him. I actually love him.

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 9>I love the guy. But I think that in the

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<v Speaker 9>long run, this has been an improvement for the position.

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 9>I think that next year is when you're gonna start

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<v Speaker 9>seeing BB really grow into what he's supposed to be.

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 9>He's a big guy, and he's very he has the power.

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 9>But you can you know that jump from year one

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<v Speaker 9>to year two where they just gained so much more

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.479
<v Speaker 9>strength and muscle mass. And I think that's something that

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 9>he's he he likes at times. For sure, they're blocking

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 9>for the running game, but also it seems to be

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 9>the collective problem here where it's not just one person

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 9>messing it up. It's something that everybody along the line

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<v Speaker 9>needs to improve on.

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<v Speaker 8>If I had to ask, if I ask you guys

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<v Speaker 8>to rank the offensive lineman one to five. As far

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 8>as how well they've played so far during the first

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 8>quarter of the season, how would you rank them.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say Tyler Smith won BB two, Martin three,

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Steal four, and guid In five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd probably have the same ranking I was. I

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 3>was between Guiding and Steel there at four and five.

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 3>But you're right, A Steel's had a couple of really

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<v Speaker 3>solid games and so yeah, I got to give the

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 3>edge to Steal.

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 9>Same, I like it.

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of interesting. It's kind of interesting to me exactly.

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 8>I would have thought maybe still got a little more

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 8>love because I think some of the games he's played well,

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 8>he's played really well.

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 5>Now have some games it was like, oh no, we

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 5>always talk about Stell riding the roller coaster six flags.

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt.

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 16>He's a serviceable right tackle, yes, yes, and when he's on,

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 16>he's really on.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 9>Oh No.

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.199
<v Speaker 5>There are games where there are games where you know,

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 5>you go back and you watch him play, and but

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 5>there's you know, like we was talked about grade the

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 5>sixty five plays, and then there's the two plays where

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 5>you're like, oh damn, he gave up a sack.

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was on a pace to for giving up a.

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 5>Sack a game and then he kind of curtailed that

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 5>a little bit.

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 9>Well, the thing for him is like you've seen him

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 9>be really, really good, so you expect more from from him.

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 9>He's been here a while now. Also his a whole

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 9>year out from the injury that he had, I mean

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 9>last year, that's where you could blame some of those

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 9>issues that he had. But now in him speaking himself

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 9>even at training camp saying like this is the best

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 9>he's ever felt, you just expect him to be a

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 9>lot more solid. But I absolutely love him. I was

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 9>saying I was criticizing Mike McCarthy back in the day,

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 9>remember when we were doing those shows and we're like,

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 9>what is happening here? They be lived in him and

0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 9>I think he definitely earned his spot, and but yeah,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 9>he just needs to be a little bit more consistent.

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't influence you guys with Martin at three.

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 4>That well, see, that's what I was just about to go.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 8>I was gonna say, if for those out there listening,

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 8>that was not a mistake.

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 4>You said Bebe was too a baby? Put Martin at three? Yeah,

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 4>how does that? I mean, like, why is it? Why?

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 4>What have you seen from Zach Martin that will make

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 4>him the third.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>It looks mortal, he does. It looks very mortal.

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 3>There have been two or three moments in almost every

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 3>game when you're like, oh, he's yeah, it looksien old.

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 10>The problem.

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 5>The problem, the problem that did Zach be respectful?

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 9>Respect the bar is.

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 2>The bar has for so many years has been so.

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 5>High that when you see, you know, and you see

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 5>a little bit more breaking down, you see guys breaking

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 5>him down a little more, and you never saw that.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 5>So to me and I like what Bbe has done.

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 5>I think there's stuff in the running game and that

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 5>he can get better at. But I'm man, I'm happy

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 5>with the way he's played. But I guess it's just

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 5>with me. With Zach Martin, there's been things that he

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 5>looks just mortal. He looks like a guy that all

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 5>of a suddenly gets put push back. And in the New

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 5>Orleans game, he gets pushed back in the pocket and

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 5>they slapped the ball out of Dak's hands and now

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 5>it's on the ground and Tobert has to run over

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 5>and cover it. You know, I mean, right down, I

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.479
<v Speaker 5>mean that Zach Martin getting walked.

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<v Speaker 3>First play from scrimmage of the season dad got whacked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so a.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy beating Zach Martin, I don't remember who it was

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<v Speaker 3>beating Zach Martin.

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<v Speaker 10>And pass and pass protection. I think on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Same note, Zach Martin has still been solid. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think all five guys have had their moments. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think when you look at Tyler Smith and Cooper Bebe's

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<v Speaker 3>case so far, those guys have played at Pro Bowl levels.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel that way about Cooper bb too. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel like Zach Martin has really reached that. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he'll end up getting the Pro Bowl, but he

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't seen it. I haven't seen that from him so far.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's what's rough about it is you go a

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<v Speaker 8>whole season or half a season and not see Zach

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<v Speaker 8>Martin give up a play, and so now when you're

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<v Speaker 8>seeing it more regularly, multiple times through the first quarter

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<v Speaker 8>of the season, it is a bit jarring when you

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<v Speaker 8>look up and you're like.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Dak got hit. Oh that was Zach. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the part.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that's just it probably stands out a little

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<v Speaker 8>bit more than even other offensive line because you're just

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<v Speaker 8>not used to seeing it.

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<v Speaker 13>All.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, Why these ratings are I mean, you can be

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<v Speaker 9>fully fair because you're giving these ratings based on individuals

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<v Speaker 9>and where they're at in their career. I mean, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>it's just man, this might be this might be it.

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<v Speaker 4>We will see. All right, let's take our final break.

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<v Speaker 4>We will come back.

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<v Speaker 8>We got a few more names, and we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 8>to some of these names. Were gonna to push them

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<v Speaker 8>till tomorrow, but we'll get as many.

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<v Speaker 4>As we can.

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<v Speaker 9>Well that's the that's the easiest read.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, let's jump back in. Let's jump back in. Uh,

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<v Speaker 8>let's get to some more names. Let's go with Hunter

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<v Speaker 8>Lipkey just for Nick since he was Johnny on the

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<v Speaker 8>spot there.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh, what what has he done wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>I h I love the integration that Mike McCarthy has

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<v Speaker 3>put Hunter Lipkey into in this offense going into this

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<v Speaker 3>year a receiving weapon and I I don't think I

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<v Speaker 3>anticipated that being the case after the situations that they

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<v Speaker 3>put him in during his rookie season. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>if you call back to some of the great moments

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 3>he had in the preseason last year, and specifically that

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders game at home, I believe he had somewhere around

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five receiving yards, had the receiving touchdown where he

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<v Speaker 3>hurdled the guy. He can be a weapon in the

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 3>receiving game. He has a route running tree. It was

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<v Speaker 3>developed at North Dakota State. He comes out of the backfield.

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<v Speaker 3>They've lined him up at tight end. That corner route

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<v Speaker 3>that he ran against Kyle Hamilton in the in the

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<v Speaker 3>Ravens game. I mean that was that was what a

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<v Speaker 3>tight end does, and he was able to get some

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<v Speaker 3>separation and hauld that in. Typically when the ball is

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<v Speaker 3>thrown his way, he's hauling it in. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>think if he's developed more as a receiving weapon, that

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<v Speaker 3>can kind of open up this offense. I'm not there yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm close to just making the proclamation give the

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<v Speaker 3>ball a hundred lockey fifteen times a game. I'm very

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<v Speaker 3>close to making that proclamation because he's gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see that as a problem.

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<v Speaker 10>He's gonna be a guy that can give you four

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<v Speaker 10>yards per carry.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see that as a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>He's always going to fall forward, he's always going to

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<v Speaker 5>find he's got a feel for how to get through

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 5>tight spaces. He's got really good balance, he's tough, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the whole thing. Until I mean, everybody will bring up

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<v Speaker 5>the thing that what happened to him in Miami. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>unfortunately it happens. It happens to a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you this. I think he's one of your

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<v Speaker 5>three best offensive players. When you look at when you

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<v Speaker 5>start to name the best offensive players, Hunter Lipkey needs

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<v Speaker 5>to be in that top three or four names. He

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<v Speaker 5>is a weapon in every sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the word.

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<v Speaker 5>His ability on that fourth down play to you know

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<v Speaker 5>what happened the very next play you score a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 5>they throw the ball to Lamb and it's a fifty

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<v Speaker 5>something yard touchdown pass he had.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a third down.

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<v Speaker 5>Catch that got eleven yards that next play touchdown. This

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<v Speaker 5>guy all he does for you is make plays. He's

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<v Speaker 5>he had three special teams tackles too, you know. I

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<v Speaker 5>mean he plays a ton in these games, never comes

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<v Speaker 5>off the field, and a lot of these circumstances. But

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<v Speaker 5>when you start to say who the Dallas Cowboys three

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<v Speaker 5>best offensive players, I put Hunter Lipkey in that rule

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<v Speaker 5>through through four weeks of watching football right now, I

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<v Speaker 5>put him in as one of your top three players.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not gonna be the guy to break away for

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<v Speaker 3>a sixty yard touchdown if you do give him the

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<v Speaker 3>bulk of the running back responsibility.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I was about to say.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like, it's not like you got him on

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<v Speaker 3>the roster already, so you may as well give it

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<v Speaker 3>to the guy that can at least get you four

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<v Speaker 3>yards of care.

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<v Speaker 9>No. Well, when he first got here and that Nick

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<v Speaker 9>was all in love and started printing pictures and hanging

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<v Speaker 9>it up all over his little hards around that's still

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 9>do you know anywhere? I was just like okay, But

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<v Speaker 9>then then I started falling in love too, and I

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<v Speaker 9>started seeing the beauty he's. He's he's a true he's

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<v Speaker 9>a true professional. And when you see him, I mean

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<v Speaker 9>he's always laser focused, and that's the guy that he's

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<v Speaker 9>gonna My only thing right now is that they're not

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<v Speaker 9>playing him enough. I want to see him more on offense.

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<v Speaker 9>He hasn't made any big mistakes or anything. Everything that

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<v Speaker 9>he's done, he's been very, very productive. So that's the

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<v Speaker 9>only thing is just get the ball to him a

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<v Speaker 9>lot more.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'll say this, I think you talk about him running,

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<v Speaker 8>but I think he's the best pass catcher out of

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 8>the backfield the Cowboys have. There was one catch he

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 8>made this last game over the middle Yeah, that's a

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.919
<v Speaker 8>receiver type catch. That's not a typical running back type

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 8>catch because it was a tough catch. There was a

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 8>guy kind of on him and he used I mean

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 8>it was a handscatch. This was a type of catch

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 8>where I'm like, that's what I want to see. And

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 8>that's why I think he's kind of gotten. He's kind

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 8>of solidified the role as a third down back. He

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<v Speaker 8>has that role kind of his that's his thing at

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<v Speaker 8>this point. And I think it's because he can pick

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<v Speaker 8>up the blitz. He can also sneak out and get

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 8>you some yards in the passing game.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's talking about him being a little Mike Allstart Like

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 3>that's been thrown around the locker room. You may as well.

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 3>You may as well just give him one hundred touches

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 3>in the season, you know what I mean, Because that's

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 3>what they did with all Stott and it worked out.

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<v Speaker 5>I lived I lived the nightmare of Mike Alstott when

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 5>I was in Green Bay. One hundred Lipke's got more

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:58.839
<v Speaker 5>balance and more lateral quickness. Mike Alstott was a downhill.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a big dude. No, he was tough.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean he really him. Christian Nkoya. Those guys like

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 5>that back in the day.

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 2>They just just bounce off from This guy's.

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 5>Got the ability to get out and the like Derek

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 5>was talking about, get out in the flat, soft hands.

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, been able to. He doesn't fight the ball,

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 2>he catches it.

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 5>You put somebody on him, he get away, he breaks tackles,

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 5>he has bound I mean, there's all this.

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<v Speaker 2>Michae Alstott was a hell of a football player, don't

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 2>get me.

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<v Speaker 5>Wrong, but man, I think this guy's got more athletic

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 5>ability than Mike Alstott had.

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<v Speaker 8>For those out there that are younger that may not

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 8>have seen Michael.

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Google him. Google him.

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 4>You'll see there's some really good players out.

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 5>There where you're like, wow, this is He's just banged

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 5>off people when he was rushing, you know, when he

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 5>was running the ball.

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 2>It's a hard guy to tackle, seriously, just banging around.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's try to get one more guy here before we

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 8>end the show. Give me a Klin Carson. He missed

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 8>this last game. A guy that's kind of been you know,

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 8>he's been challenged a little bit in.

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Those first three games. What do you think as far

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<v Speaker 4>as what you like from him and what do you

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<v Speaker 4>think he's got.

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<v Speaker 2>Improved, you know'd say something real quick about him.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate this for him, but it always he's one

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<v Speaker 5>of these guys that I don't think things bother him,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, when it comes to giving up a play

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<v Speaker 5>or you know, I mean, every time that something bad

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<v Speaker 5>has happened to him, it's like, the next six plays

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<v Speaker 5>are really really good for him, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>He he he had the deal.

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<v Speaker 5>Where uh, you know, he missed the tackle and they

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<v Speaker 5>got it. You know, the Saints got a huge gain

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<v Speaker 5>out of it, and you know, and it it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's a it was a bad play. But he he's

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<v Speaker 5>one of these guys he challenges you. He's willing to tackle.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's physical. I just hate the fact that

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<v Speaker 5>it takes a bad play for him to kind of

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<v Speaker 5>get going.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like he he misses the tackle and now he's

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<v Speaker 5>having to like the next six tackles are like all

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<v Speaker 5>good tackles, Like he remembered how he's supposed to tackle,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, not go high, wrap him up, stay, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>get a shoulder in there. But the coverage stuff in

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<v Speaker 5>two I you know, it's and it's it's it's learning.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it is so much learning for him, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know the right, but I think he's better when

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<v Speaker 5>he could play tight, when he plays back, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think he has a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I really really don't. I don't. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>the quickness of the foot speed is there.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that when he can main contact with

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<v Speaker 5>a receiver is when he's a better player. And I'd

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<v Speaker 5>like to see him play more in and and and

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<v Speaker 5>those kinds of roles. I have really really high hopes

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<v Speaker 5>for him. I high high expectation. I think he's a

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<v Speaker 5>really good player because I love how physically he is

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<v Speaker 5>for a corner. Sometimes these corners want nothing to do

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<v Speaker 5>with being physical. They don't want anything to do with tackling.

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<v Speaker 5>Or I know this kid gets it. You know, if

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<v Speaker 5>he makes a mistake, he's gonna get He's gonna come back.

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<v Speaker 5>The next five plays are all going to be good

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<v Speaker 5>plays for him.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think there is still room for him to

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<v Speaker 3>grow physical physically. That absolutely get yeah physical and to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, uh step up and make those plays in

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<v Speaker 3>the run game and that tackle and or Sean Babman,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just just pushing him to the sideline.

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<v Speaker 10>You gotta be more physical there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think all in all, when you factor

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<v Speaker 3>and he's a fifth round rookie who is asked to

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<v Speaker 3>step in on two weeks notice and start the first

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<v Speaker 3>three weeks of the season. Now, I guess we'll anticipate

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<v Speaker 3>four of the first five it's been serviceable.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think you take that ten times out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of ten, he's he's as far as exceeding expectations, he's

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<v Speaker 3>been my easy rookie of the year so far for

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<v Speaker 3>this draft class.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I agree, he's been He's been pretty solid given

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<v Speaker 9>the circumstances and where he was drafted and everything's and

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<v Speaker 9>he my thing with when you were talking about speed

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<v Speaker 9>and sometimes there is a big separation. But at the

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<v Speaker 9>same time, what I give him grace in that aspect

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<v Speaker 9>is like everybody else is doing the same thing, Like

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<v Speaker 9>he's not the one standing out. Everybody on defense is

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<v Speaker 9>also collectively doing that as well. So I give him

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<v Speaker 9>some grace in that aspect. I think he's a guy,

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<v Speaker 9>like like you said, Brian, he makes a mistake and

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<v Speaker 9>he comes right back up. It doesn't mentally affect him,

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<v Speaker 9>which is something big when you're asking a young guy

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<v Speaker 9>to be mature, mentally mature, to be able to forget

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<v Speaker 9>that play, keep going onto the next and again remembering

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<v Speaker 9>that this is a tough position to play when you

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<v Speaker 9>come in sometimes most of the time you're on your own.

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<v Speaker 9>It's all it's you and the receiver figure it out.

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<v Speaker 9>And I think all in all, he's he's done a

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<v Speaker 9>pretty solid job. I really really like him. Obviously, there's

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<v Speaker 9>gonna be mistakes and they're gonna continue to happen, but

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<v Speaker 9>I think he's gonna be a very good guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I ask a Tuesday question right now? What is

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<v Speaker 5>it gonna take to get John Stevens active?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's a great I would love to see it.

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<v Speaker 8>But but you know, honestly, with these issues that you're

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<v Speaker 8>gonna have on defense, the way I look at this

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<v Speaker 8>is maybe the best thing you can do is try

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<v Speaker 8>to fire out how you can score more points on offense.

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<v Speaker 8>Now that's gonna require that's gonna require your offense to

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<v Speaker 8>play call and maybe changing up how he looks at

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<v Speaker 8>the game. It may also mean having to get a

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<v Speaker 8>guy like John Stevens active because he can give you

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit more and maybe you can track that

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<v Speaker 8>running back room a little bit. As far as the

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<v Speaker 8>guys that are active, maybe instead of having duce out there.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe you make John Stevens acting. Maybe that's standard.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sure, I just I just I'm curious because the

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<v Speaker 5>span Ford thing, I don't see, you know. But that's

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<v Speaker 5>why I've got a mic and I'm sitting here talking

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<v Speaker 5>to you guys. I don't see it. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not in that room. But John Stevens it's every week,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. John Stevens is now becoming a healthy scratch

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<v Speaker 5>for this team, and I think there's something about him

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<v Speaker 5>that could just give me maybe a little bit more

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<v Speaker 5>than what I'm getting from span Ford, maybe a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more than I get from Luke scoon Maker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm flipping the two for these two weeks before

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<v Speaker 3>the buye. If it were me, I'm activating John Stevens

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<v Speaker 3>Junior and activating Reveen span Ford, just to see what

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<v Speaker 3>he can do, see what he can bring from an

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<v Speaker 3>offensive perspective in the past game, because you need the

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<v Speaker 3>defense to step up, and the best defense is a

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<v Speaker 3>good offense, so you may well give it another receiving Opestionah.

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<v Speaker 8>What do we hearing about Kayln Carson right now?

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like he's gonna be good to go this week.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's a more passing that he'll have to do.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as on field work, I believe that's starting

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<v Speaker 3>on Wednesday. But nevertheless, it sounds good that you'll be

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<v Speaker 3>ready to go for the Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 10>It's a good thing for them.

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<v Speaker 4>They'll need that body.

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<v Speaker 10>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, appreciate you guys. Join us.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna continue our player evaluations.

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<v Speaker 8>We got a lot more players we'll get through till then.

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<v Speaker 8>Nick Harris, Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton.

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