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Speaker 6: with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 8: It is Monday, September thirtieth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 8: episode number thirty eight.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, live.

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Speaker 4: Forward Slash old Edevo.

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Speaker 8: All right, let's talk to this today. We're going to

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Speaker 8: do a quarter recap. First quarter recap. It is not

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Speaker 8: the first quarter of the game, but the first quarter

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Speaker 8: of the season.

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Speaker 4: Then we will be recapped.

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Speaker 9: Why are you looking at.

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Speaker 4: Me, Brian, We're gonna recap the first quarter of the season.

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Speaker 4: We're just gonna say that, all right. So what we're

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Speaker 4: gonna do is, I'm gonna have some names.

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Speaker 2: Hear Ambar's first quarter recap from the game of the game.

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Speaker 9: Okay, for those who are like, what the heck is

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Speaker 9: going on? Right before the start of the show, Derek

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Speaker 9: is like, Okay, for the show, we're gonna recap the

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Speaker 9: first quarter. And then that was that. And then in

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Speaker 9: my head, I'm like, wait, of the game, Like what

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Speaker 9: are we doing? Like that sounds like an awful show?

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Speaker 9: Why are we recapping the first quarter of the game.

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Speaker 9: And he's like, no, it's of the first quarter of

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Speaker 9: the season.

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Speaker 6: Come on.

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Speaker 9: I'm like, Okay, relax, let's just do the show, all.

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Speaker 8: Right, So we relax. Now we're gonna talk about first

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Speaker 8: quarter of season. Now, here's what I'm gonna do. Before

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Speaker 8: we get into that, we're gonna talk a little bit

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Speaker 8: about some injuries. But once we get to the player

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Speaker 8: to the first season, I have some questions for you guys.

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Speaker 8: Some player evals to have some names that I want

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Speaker 8: to just get you guys to give me an opinion

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Speaker 8: on what you think of.

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Speaker 4: Their first quarter outstanding and uh.

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Speaker 8: And we'll go through some of those, hopefully hits, some

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Speaker 8: just to give them an idea of where everyone is.

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Speaker 8: But let's start first with the news that really has

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Speaker 8: been been the most predominant news for the Cowboys ever

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Speaker 8: since the game. Michael Parsons and de Marcus Lawrence both

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Speaker 8: gonna miss time.

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Speaker 4: Both have injuries.

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Speaker 8: Brian, what do we know about their injuries and and

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Speaker 8: what do we know at this point or what are

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Speaker 8: we're surmising at this point with regard to their the

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Speaker 2: Okay, I could, I could tell you the amount of time.

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Speaker 2: How about that? Does that work work? You're probably not

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Speaker 4: That's kind of two games you got and.

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Speaker 5: Then yeah you got this, get the Pittsburgh game, you

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Speaker 5: got this game. Yeah, the Pittsburgh game, you get the

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Speaker 5: And then now you're looking to potentially get him back

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Speaker 5: When you look at the injury to Tank, and I

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Speaker 5: saying there. All right now, when you ask people in

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Speaker 5: But they were thinking that four weeks on this thing

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Speaker 5: So that's kind of what your timetable, Micah closer to being,

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Speaker 5: you know, the three weeks, and then Tank will see

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Speaker 8: Yeah, when you look at this team and what's happened

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Speaker 8: with the Cowboys letting them walk. But obviously you didn't

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Speaker 8: predict this. You got those two guys gone, then you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there should be a little bit of

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Speaker 10: Is it going to be at Mike and de Laws level?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: There's going to be some responsibility that falls on the

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Speaker 3: what Marshaw Kneelan can do from a power perspective, I

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Speaker 10: A skill set standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Is it as refined and as polished as what d

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Speaker 10: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: He's still a rookie at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: but he can kind of give you that big presence

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Speaker 3: I think he brings some power to but all in all,

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Speaker 3: what he was saying as far as Micah probably not

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this conversation is making my heart race very very fast.

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Speaker 9: I'm like starting to freak out because we already know

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Speaker 9: the struggles that were there prior to these two injuries,

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Speaker 9: very very important injuries. And we've also seen that it's

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Speaker 9: not just the past rush or the defensive line what

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Speaker 9: the rest of the defense. We've we've seen it with

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Speaker 10: But it's just.

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Speaker 9: I don't know how you get through it. I get it.

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Speaker 9: People want to say, oh, next man up, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 9: that's what happens in the in the game, Next man up.

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Speaker 9: But it's just it's tough giving all the struggles that

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Speaker 5: You need to find a way to turn the clock

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Speaker 5: back for Carl Lawson a little bit.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you need.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's been a he's been kind of a

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Speaker 2: You know, we've we've been through now a month of

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Speaker 5: what we and I know you're going to go through

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Speaker 5: the league that are in player personnel departments. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to get them to say, Okay, give me

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Speaker 5: all your best practice squad poachers. You know, if you

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Speaker 5: have to go poach a guy off a practice squad.

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Speaker 5: It's never a bad thing because those guys are, those

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Speaker 2: Those guys are.

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Speaker 5: You know, so if you can find that guy me,

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Speaker 2: Can play right now. I don't need somebody that's been

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Speaker 5: Hasn't done anything and then now all of a sudden

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Speaker 5: But I would consider poaching a guy off somebody's practice squad.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you identify maybe a young player or

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Speaker 5: Can we go get here, you know, put tank on

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Speaker 5: ir and then go get you know, go poach one

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Speaker 5: be for a personnel guy. Could be a little fun,

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Speaker 5: you know that, you know, Hey, we got to figure

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Speaker 5: And their pro department does a pretty damn good job.

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Speaker 5: So that's the route I think they might go to.

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Speaker 3: That same point, I had a conversation in the last

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Speaker 3: is really falling on the clay in his department, as

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Speaker 3: Brian says, here to be able to identify that pick

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Speaker 4: That, but man, they rushed from the outside.

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Speaker 5: Alle Yeah, just anything you could do to create opportunity

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Speaker 2: And and you know, but a lot of it is

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Speaker 8: I know, this isn't gonna happen. But he did run

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Speaker 4: But I just that's the part I'm concerned about.

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Speaker 8: I'm really concerned about how they're going to get pass rush,

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Speaker 3: And I wonder how much trust there is and Massie

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Speaker 10: So I wonder how much absolutely it was.

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Speaker 3: His best game as a pro on Thursday night, and

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Speaker 4: So it was actually good to see.

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Speaker 10: It was phenomenal.

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Speaker 8: You could see, you could see the level of pressure

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Speaker 8: kind of be lifted for a little bit. Yeah, obviously

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Speaker 2: We got thirteen more of these. Let's go settle up,

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Speaker 9: that is very, very dedicated into the game. He will

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Speaker 9: put in the work. All that comes out of his

441
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:42,320
Speaker 9: mouth anytime I've heard him speak, it's football, football, football, study,

442
00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,240
Speaker 9: learn practice. So I believe that this is something he's

443
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,040
Speaker 9: going to look back into this past game and he's

444
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,159
Speaker 9: going to keep working on improving week after week. But

445
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,479
Speaker 9: I would say that just finding that comfort and just

446
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Speaker 9: believing in his strength. He's such a tall guy and

447
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,280
Speaker 9: he's very powerful, So I think if he works on

448
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 9: his how do I say this this.

449
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,679
Speaker 2: Is gonna sound weird lower body strength?

450
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:09,199
Speaker 12: Uh?

451
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:14,120
Speaker 9: Yes, I was gonna say spreading his legs right, terrible.

452
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,919
Speaker 9: I still said it, But the stance basically the stands

453
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 9: where his feet just kind of plank on there on. Yes,

454
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 9: that I just I need to improve my vocabulary. But yes,

455
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,639
Speaker 9: just working on his stand and stands, and I think

456
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 9: he will get the job done. It's just it's just

457
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Speaker 9: part of where he's at in his career right now.

458
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Speaker 2: It's amazing to me they've thrown him deep into the

459
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 2: pool and said swim.

460
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Speaker 4: Especially his last game.

461
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 5: Man, they don't even give him of those little orange

462
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 5: life jackets to wear when you were a kid, you know,

463
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 5: around your neck. It was embarrassing.

464
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 2: It's so big. He didn't want to wear it.

465
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Speaker 8: And they did the school school, yeah, swimming lessons there

466
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 8: you go figure it out.

467
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Speaker 10: It is.

468
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Speaker 5: It is like, yeah, like you know, sometimes he goes

469
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 5: all the way to the bottom, he touches and he

470
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 5: bounces back up to the top.

471
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's uh.

472
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Speaker 5: They've got to figure out ways to give him a

473
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Speaker 5: little bit more help if they can. You know, I'm

474
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 5: there's gonna be some games coming up here and he's

475
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 5: already faced some guys that.

476
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 2: Can rush the passer.

477
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 5: And you know, if you continually have him single block

478
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 5: eighty nine ninety percent of the snaps I get it, man,

479
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 5: I mean, hey, good for him, but you're also crushing

480
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 5: him in a lot.

481
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: Of ways to where people are getting film on.

482
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 5: Okay, take him hard inside, take him to the edge,

483
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 5: you know, beat him when he's in this stance. So

484
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 5: he's gonna break him down this way. You know, there's

485
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 5: there's guys that are getting a lot of film and

486
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 5: my man.

487
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 2: Is in some survival mode.

488
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 5: You know, really the ball go, it's snapped a deck

489
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 5: and it's survival mode ball, you know, and that's you

490
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 5: know inside. You know, Cooper bebe this last game. You know,

491
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 5: he was double team blocked eighty percent of the time.

492
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 5: He was getting help. But they you know, Lawrence is

493
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 5: a good player, actually a great player for the Giants.

494
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 5: So I just kind of feel like you've got to

495
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 5: find some ways to kind of mix it up and

496
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 5: help and not let everybody just have a free rush

497
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 5: on him the way until he figured out the stance,

498
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 5: the feet, the hands, everything about him needs to kind

499
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 5: of be working. But you see it at times. There

500
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 5: could be times when he's really good at it, and

501
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 5: then there's times where it's like, oh damn, here comes

502
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 5: survival mode. But I mean, the kid's tough and he

503
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 5: doesn't back down, and he's getting better. Though when he

504
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 5: knows it might be holding, he kind of puts his

505
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 5: hands up, you know, he like falls on the guy

506
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 5: and kind of puts his hands.

507
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: Up so the officials don't call it.

508
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 5: But he gets his body positions bad at times, and

509
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 5: you know, he just got a lot of improvement he

510
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 5: needs on that.

511
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: But they got to help him a little bit.

512
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned his name, but let's move on to

513
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 4: Cooper Bebe.

514
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Cooper Bebe.

515
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 3: I think whenever you look at his first four games

516
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: and you look at the stats on PFF about pressures

517
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 3: allowed and sacks allowed and things like that, he looks

518
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 3: absolutely phenomenal. He has been great, but I think there

519
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 3: are still some things in the running game that he's

520
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:52,959
Speaker 3: gonna have to work on.

521
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 8: I think as you watch the game right like, they're

522
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 8: just thinking, you're, like, he's not as great.

523
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: Lawn a few times. Yeah, like Dexter Lawrence beat him

524
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 3: up a few times. The stats do not show it.

525
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 3: And hey, whenever you are a starting center, sometimes you're

526
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: able to get away with those things a little bit

527
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: easier than others, just because the nature of the defensive

528
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 3: tackle position. And what success actually looks like from that

529
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 3: position just looks a little bit different from the rest

530
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: of the eleven. But I think from a Cooper BB perspective,

531
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Speaker 3: I love what he's done in pass pro. I think

532
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 3: in run block there just has to be a little

533
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: bit of correction that's going to have to be applied.

534
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 3: And we talked all year last year about how the

535
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: guys up front were a big catalyst towards the run

536
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 3: game not being as productive as it could have been.

537
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 3: I think as a unit all five, when you look

538
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 3: from a run blocking perspective, it has been better, but

539
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: there are still some guys that can improve a lot.

540
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: And I think Cooper BB is probably suspect number one

541
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: in that instance, just because you know what his development

542
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 3: will look like whenever he does get to his max

543
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 3: level of progression. So I think there is still some

544
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: learning going on with the center position, specifically in run block.

545
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: I think from a pass pro perspective, though he has

546
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 3: exceeded my expectations. I think he's been really strong in

547
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: the middle. He's he's created a really great depth of

548
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: pocket for Dak Prescott. I think that's only going to

549
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: improve as his time gets more more in depth.

550
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 5: The way the Cowboys run the ball, he's got to

551
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 5: be better, you know, and I mean I mean and

552
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 5: I mean better, because I think there's been times where

553
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 5: he has been better.

554
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: Some of their bigger.

555
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 5: Runs are him and Martin or him and Smith push

556
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 5: the middle and then the ball cuts behind them because

557
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 5: it doesn't like to me, and nothing on the outside

558
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 5: for the Cowboys, there's nothing outside the tackle. It always

559
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 5: seems like it's in between either the tight end to

560
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 5: the center box, and that's where they try and kind

561
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 5: of take the ball inside and cut it from that.

562
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 3: But it was that one run on Thursday night Reco

563
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 3: and I think it was a BB Smith and guid

564
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: and just kind of pushing.

565
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Huge, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

566
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 5: They you know, even the run that even the run

567
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 5: that Zeke got called back where they had two holdings

568
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 5: on the play that Tyler Smith and BB both which

569
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 5: I thought were questionable calls.

570
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: But still that that, you.

571
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 5: Know, the run part of it, that's how they're going

572
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 5: to him and those guards to do it because any

573
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 5: other way of running the football, we just haven't seen it.

574
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 5: We just haven't seen they be able to create. They

575
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 5: haven't got the ball to the edge with any effectiveness

576
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 5: unless it's a jet sweep or something like that. But

577
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 5: they're going to need him to be a little bit

578
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 5: better inside the pass block and stuff. Has actually been really, really,

579
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 5: really good because I was surprised to make a call,

580
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 5: make the snap, find out where you need to go,

581
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 5: and he's doing all that pretty well right now. He

582
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 5: did have the problems with when the twist stunts where

583
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 5: you pass and he would get too engaged. And when

584
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 5: you become so engaged, that allows the looper to come around,

585
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 5: and he's got to be He got better at just

586
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 5: getting rid of that guy and then being there ready

587
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 5: for the looper to come around. So he's going to

588
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 5: see more of that. You know, people are gonna run

589
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 5: twist stunts inside and stuff, and he's gonna have to

590
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 5: be able to handle.

591
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: Much of the word surprising, and I think an extra

592
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: surprise element is effect of the system he came from

593
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 3: at Kansas State being so run down it and just

594
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: loading up and you know, twelve and twenty two personnel

595
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: and just running the ball downhill. That he's been so

596
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: great in pass pro and it's not that they don't

597
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: pass the ball at Kansas State. I mean they spread

598
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: it out. Chris Cleman does a good job of being

599
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: able to get those receivers involved too. But it's it's

600
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 3: pretty surprising how well he's been able to pick up

601
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 3: the pass block.

602
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, And this is not a shot to

603
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 9: to be yaddish.

604
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 10: Yes, he's actually looked pretty good, has.

605
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: Been pretty good from what I've seen.

606
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, but no shot to him. I actually love him.

607
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 9: I love the guy. But I think that in the

608
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 9: long run, this has been an improvement for the position.

609
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 9: I think that next year is when you're gonna start

610
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 9: seeing BB really grow into what he's supposed to be.

611
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 9: He's a big guy, and he's very he has the power.

612
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 9: But you can you know that jump from year one

613
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 9: to year two where they just gained so much more

614
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 9: strength and muscle mass. And I think that's something that

615
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 9: he's he he likes at times. For sure, they're blocking

616
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 9: for the running game, but also it seems to be

617
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 9: the collective problem here where it's not just one person

618
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 9: messing it up. It's something that everybody along the line

619
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 9: needs to improve on.

620
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 8: If I had to ask, if I ask you guys

621
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Speaker 8: to rank the offensive lineman one to five. As far

622
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 8: as how well they've played so far during the first

623
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 8: quarter of the season, how would you rank them.

624
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: I would say Tyler Smith won BB two, Martin three,

625
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: Steal four, and guid In five.

626
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd probably have the same ranking I was. I

627
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: was between Guiding and Steel there at four and five.

628
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: But you're right, A Steel's had a couple of really

629
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 3: solid games and so yeah, I got to give the

630
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: edge to Steal.

631
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

632
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 9: Same, I like it.

633
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 4: It's kind of interesting. It's kind of interesting to me exactly.

634
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 8: I would have thought maybe still got a little more

635
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 8: love because I think some of the games he's played well,

636
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 8: he's played really well.

637
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 5: Now have some games it was like, oh no, we

638
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 5: always talk about Stell riding the roller coaster six flags.

639
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

640
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 16: He's a serviceable right tackle, yes, yes, and when he's on,

641
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 16: he's really on.

642
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 9: Oh No.

643
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 5: There are games where there are games where you know,

644
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: you go back and you watch him play, and but

645
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 5: there's you know, like we was talked about grade the

646
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 5: sixty five plays, and then there's the two plays where

647
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 5: you're like, oh damn, he gave up a sack.

648
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on a pace to for giving up a.

649
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: Sack a game and then he kind of curtailed that

650
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 5: a little bit.

651
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 9: Well, the thing for him is like you've seen him

652
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 9: be really, really good, so you expect more from from him.

653
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 9: He's been here a while now. Also his a whole

654
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 9: year out from the injury that he had, I mean

655
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 9: last year, that's where you could blame some of those

656
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 9: issues that he had. But now in him speaking himself

657
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 9: even at training camp saying like this is the best

658
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 9: he's ever felt, you just expect him to be a

659
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 9: lot more solid. But I absolutely love him. I was

660
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 9: saying I was criticizing Mike McCarthy back in the day,

661
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Speaker 9: remember when we were doing those shows and we're like,

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Speaker 9: what is happening here? They be lived in him and

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Speaker 9: I think he definitely earned his spot, and but yeah,

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Speaker 9: he just needs to be a little bit more consistent.

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Speaker 2: I didn't influence you guys with Martin at three.

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Speaker 4: That well, see, that's what I was just about to go.

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Speaker 8: I was gonna say, if for those out there listening,

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Speaker 8: that was not a mistake.

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Speaker 4: You said Bebe was too a baby? Put Martin at three? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: how does that? I mean, like, why is it? Why?

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Speaker 4: What have you seen from Zach Martin that will make

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Speaker 4: him the third.

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Speaker 2: It looks mortal, he does. It looks very mortal.

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Speaker 3: There have been two or three moments in almost every

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Speaker 3: game when you're like, oh, he's yeah, it looksien old.

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Speaker 10: The problem.

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Speaker 5: The problem, the problem that did Zach be respectful?

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Speaker 9: Respect the bar is.

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Speaker 2: The bar has for so many years has been so.

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Speaker 5: High that when you see, you know, and you see

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Speaker 5: a little bit more breaking down, you see guys breaking

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Speaker 5: him down a little more, and you never saw that.

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Speaker 5: So to me and I like what Bbe has done.

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Speaker 5: I think there's stuff in the running game and that

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Speaker 5: he can get better at. But I'm man, I'm happy

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Speaker 5: with the way he's played. But I guess it's just

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Speaker 5: with me. With Zach Martin, there's been things that he

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Speaker 5: looks just mortal. He looks like a guy that all

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Speaker 5: of a suddenly gets put push back. And in the New

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Speaker 5: Orleans game, he gets pushed back in the pocket and

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Speaker 5: they slapped the ball out of Dak's hands and now

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Speaker 5: it's on the ground and Tobert has to run over

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Speaker 5: and cover it. You know, I mean, right down, I

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Speaker 5: mean that Zach Martin getting walked.

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Speaker 3: First play from scrimmage of the season dad got whacked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a.

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Speaker 3: Guy beating Zach Martin, I don't remember who it was

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Speaker 3: beating Zach Martin.

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Speaker 10: And pass and pass protection. I think on that.

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Speaker 3: Same note, Zach Martin has still been solid. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think all five guys have had their moments. But I

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Speaker 3: think when you look at Tyler Smith and Cooper Bebe's

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Speaker 3: case so far, those guys have played at Pro Bowl levels.

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Speaker 3: And I feel that way about Cooper bb too. I

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Speaker 3: don't feel like Zach Martin has really reached that. I

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Speaker 3: think he'll end up getting the Pro Bowl, but he

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Speaker 3: hasn't seen it. I haven't seen that from him so far.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what's rough about it is you go a

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Speaker 8: whole season or half a season and not see Zach

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Speaker 8: Martin give up a play, and so now when you're

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Speaker 8: seeing it more regularly, multiple times through the first quarter

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Speaker 8: of the season, it is a bit jarring when you

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Speaker 8: look up and you're like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Dak got hit. Oh that was Zach. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: the part.

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Speaker 8: I think that's just it probably stands out a little

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Speaker 8: bit more than even other offensive line because you're just

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Speaker 8: not used to seeing it.

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Speaker 13: All.

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Speaker 9: Right, Why these ratings are I mean, you can be

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Speaker 9: fully fair because you're giving these ratings based on individuals

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Speaker 9: and where they're at in their career. I mean, but yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's just man, this might be this might be it.

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Speaker 4: We will see. All right, let's take our final break.

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Speaker 4: We will come back.

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Speaker 8: We got a few more names, and we're gonna get

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Speaker 9: Well that's the that's the easiest read.

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Speaker 8: All right, let's jump back in. Let's jump back in. Uh,

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Speaker 8: let's get to some more names. Let's go with Hunter

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Speaker 8: Lipkey just for Nick since he was Johnny on the

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Speaker 8: spot there.

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Speaker 10: Uh, what what has he done wrong?

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Speaker 3: I h I love the integration that Mike McCarthy has

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Speaker 3: put Hunter Lipkey into in this offense going into this

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Speaker 3: year a receiving weapon and I I don't think I

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Speaker 3: anticipated that being the case after the situations that they

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Speaker 3: put him in during his rookie season. But I think

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Speaker 3: if you call back to some of the great moments

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Speaker 3: he had in the preseason last year, and specifically that

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Speaker 3: Raiders game at home, I believe he had somewhere around

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Speaker 3: seventy five receiving yards, had the receiving touchdown where he

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Speaker 3: hurdled the guy. He can be a weapon in the

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Speaker 3: receiving game. He has a route running tree. It was

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Speaker 3: developed at North Dakota State. He comes out of the backfield.

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Speaker 3: They've lined him up at tight end. That corner route

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Speaker 3: that he ran against Kyle Hamilton in the in the

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Speaker 3: Ravens game. I mean that was that was what a

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Speaker 3: tight end does, and he was able to get some

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Speaker 3: separation and hauld that in. Typically when the ball is

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Speaker 3: thrown his way, he's hauling it in. And so I

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Speaker 3: think if he's developed more as a receiving weapon, that

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Speaker 3: can kind of open up this offense. I'm not there yet,

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Speaker 3: but I'm close to just making the proclamation give the

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Speaker 3: ball a hundred lockey fifteen times a game. I'm very

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Speaker 3: close to making that proclamation because he's gonna.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that as a problem.

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Speaker 10: He's gonna be a guy that can give you four

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Speaker 10: yards per carry.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that as a problem.

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Speaker 5: He's always going to fall forward, he's always going to

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Speaker 5: find he's got a feel for how to get through

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Speaker 5: tight spaces. He's got really good balance, he's tough, you know,

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Speaker 5: the whole thing. Until I mean, everybody will bring up

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Speaker 5: the thing that what happened to him in Miami. You know,

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Speaker 5: unfortunately it happens. It happens to a lot of them.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you this. I think he's one of your

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Speaker 5: three best offensive players. When you look at when you

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Speaker 5: start to name the best offensive players, Hunter Lipkey needs

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Speaker 5: to be in that top three or four names. He

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Speaker 5: is a weapon in every sense.

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Speaker 2: Of the word.

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Speaker 5: His ability on that fourth down play to you know

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Speaker 5: what happened the very next play you score a touchdown,

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Speaker 5: they throw the ball to Lamb and it's a fifty

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Speaker 5: something yard touchdown pass he had.

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Speaker 2: He had a third down.

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Speaker 5: Catch that got eleven yards that next play touchdown. This

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Speaker 5: guy all he does for you is make plays. He's

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Speaker 5: he had three special teams tackles too, you know. I

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Speaker 5: mean he plays a ton in these games, never comes

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Speaker 5: off the field, and a lot of these circumstances. But

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Speaker 5: when you start to say who the Dallas Cowboys three

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Speaker 5: best offensive players, I put Hunter Lipkey in that rule

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Speaker 5: through through four weeks of watching football right now, I

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Speaker 5: put him in as one of your top three players.

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna be the guy to break away for

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Speaker 3: a sixty yard touchdown if you do give him the

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Speaker 3: bulk of the running back responsibility.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was about to say.

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Speaker 3: It's not like, it's not like you got him on

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Speaker 3: the roster already, so you may as well give it

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Speaker 3: to the guy that can at least get you four

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Speaker 9: No. Well, when he first got here and that Nick

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Speaker 9: it up all over his little hards around that's still

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Speaker 9: do you know anywhere? I was just like okay, But

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Speaker 9: then then I started falling in love too, and I

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Speaker 9: started seeing the beauty he's. He's he's a true he's

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Speaker 9: a true professional. And when you see him, I mean

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Speaker 9: he's always laser focused, and that's the guy that he's

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Speaker 9: gonna My only thing right now is that they're not

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Speaker 9: playing him enough. I want to see him more on offense.

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Speaker 9: He hasn't made any big mistakes or anything. Everything that

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Speaker 9: he's done, he's been very, very productive. So that's the

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Speaker 9: only thing is just get the ball to him a

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Speaker 9: lot more.

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Speaker 8: And I'll say this, I think you talk about him running,

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Speaker 8: but I think he's the best pass catcher out of

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Speaker 8: the backfield the Cowboys have. There was one catch he

881
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 8: made this last game over the middle Yeah, that's a

882
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 8: receiver type catch. That's not a typical running back type

883
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 8: catch because it was a tough catch. There was a

884
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 8: guy kind of on him and he used I mean

885
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 8: it was a handscatch. This was a type of catch

886
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 8: where I'm like, that's what I want to see. And

887
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 8: that's why I think he's kind of gotten. He's kind

888
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 8: of solidified the role as a third down back. He

889
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 8: has that role kind of his that's his thing at

890
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 8: this point. And I think it's because he can pick

891
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 8: up the blitz. He can also sneak out and get

892
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 8: you some yards in the passing game.

893
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: Everyone's talking about him being a little Mike Allstart Like

894
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: that's been thrown around the locker room. You may as well.

895
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 3: You may as well just give him one hundred touches

896
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: in the season, you know what I mean, Because that's

897
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: what they did with all Stott and it worked out.

898
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 5: I lived I lived the nightmare of Mike Alstott when

899
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 5: I was in Green Bay. One hundred Lipke's got more

900
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 5: balance and more lateral quickness. Mike Alstott was a downhill.

901
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: He was a big dude. No, he was tough.

902
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 5: I mean he really him. Christian Nkoya. Those guys like

903
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 5: that back in the day.

904
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: They just just bounce off from This guy's.

905
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 5: Got the ability to get out and the like Derek

906
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 5: was talking about, get out in the flat, soft hands.

907
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: You know, been able to. He doesn't fight the ball,

908
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: he catches it.

909
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 5: You put somebody on him, he get away, he breaks tackles,

910
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 5: he has bound I mean, there's all this.

911
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Michae Alstott was a hell of a football player, don't

912
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: get me.

913
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 5: Wrong, but man, I think this guy's got more athletic

914
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: ability than Mike Alstott had.

915
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 8: For those out there that are younger that may not

916
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 8: have seen Michael.

917
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: Google him. Google him.

918
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: You'll see there's some really good players out.

919
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 5: There where you're like, wow, this is He's just banged

920
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 5: off people when he was rushing, you know, when he

921
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 5: was running the ball.

922
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: It's a hard guy to tackle, seriously, just banging around.

923
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 8: Let's try to get one more guy here before we

924
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 8: end the show. Give me a Klin Carson. He missed

925
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 8: this last game. A guy that's kind of been you know,

926
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 8: he's been challenged a little bit in.

927
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 4: Those first three games. What do you think as far

928
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 4: as what you like from him and what do you

929
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 4: think he's got.

930
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: Improved, you know'd say something real quick about him.

931
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 5: I hate this for him, but it always he's one

932
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 5: of these guys that I don't think things bother him,

933
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 5: you know, when it comes to giving up a play

934
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 5: or you know, I mean, every time that something bad

935
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: has happened to him, it's like, the next six plays

936
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 5: are really really good for him, you know.

937
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 2: He he he had the deal.

938
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 5: Where uh, you know, he missed the tackle and they

939
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 5: got it. You know, the Saints got a huge gain

940
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 5: out of it, and you know, and it it's it's

941
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 5: it's a it was a bad play. But he he's

942
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 5: one of these guys he challenges you. He's willing to tackle.

943
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 5: I think he's physical. I just hate the fact that

944
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 5: it takes a bad play for him to kind of

945
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 5: get going.

946
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: You know.

947
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 5: It's like he he misses the tackle and now he's

948
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 5: having to like the next six tackles are like all

949
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 5: good tackles, Like he remembered how he's supposed to tackle,

950
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 5: you know, not go high, wrap him up, stay, you know,

951
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 5: get a shoulder in there. But the coverage stuff in

952
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: two I you know, it's and it's it's it's learning.

953
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 5: I mean it is so much learning for him, and

954
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 5: you know the right, but I think he's better when

955
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 5: he could play tight, when he plays back, I don't

956
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: think he has a chance.

957
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: I really really don't. I don't. I don't know if

958
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: the quickness of the foot speed is there.

959
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 5: And I think that when he can main contact with

960
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: a receiver is when he's a better player. And I'd

961
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: like to see him play more in and and and

962
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 5: those kinds of roles. I have really really high hopes

963
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 5: for him. I high high expectation. I think he's a

964
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 5: really good player because I love how physically he is

965
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 5: for a corner. Sometimes these corners want nothing to do

966
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 5: with being physical. They don't want anything to do with tackling.

967
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: Or I know this kid gets it. You know, if

968
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 5: he makes a mistake, he's gonna get He's gonna come back.

969
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 5: The next five plays are all going to be good

970
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 5: plays for him.

971
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: And I think there is still room for him to

972
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: grow physical physically. That absolutely get yeah physical and to

973
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: you know, uh step up and make those plays in

974
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: the run game and that tackle and or Sean Babman,

975
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: I'm just just pushing him to the sideline.

976
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 10: You gotta be more physical there.

977
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think all in all, when you factor

978
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: and he's a fifth round rookie who is asked to

979
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: step in on two weeks notice and start the first

980
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 3: three weeks of the season. Now, I guess we'll anticipate

981
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: four of the first five it's been serviceable.

982
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 10: And I think you take that ten times out.

983
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: Of ten, he's he's as far as exceeding expectations, he's

984
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: been my easy rookie of the year so far for

985
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: this draft class.

986
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree, he's been He's been pretty solid given

987
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 9: the circumstances and where he was drafted and everything's and

988
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 9: he my thing with when you were talking about speed

989
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 9: and sometimes there is a big separation. But at the

990
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 9: same time, what I give him grace in that aspect

991
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 9: is like everybody else is doing the same thing, Like

992
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 9: he's not the one standing out. Everybody on defense is

993
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 9: also collectively doing that as well. So I give him

994
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 9: some grace in that aspect. I think he's a guy,

995
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 9: like like you said, Brian, he makes a mistake and

996
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 9: he comes right back up. It doesn't mentally affect him,

997
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 9: which is something big when you're asking a young guy

998
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 9: to be mature, mentally mature, to be able to forget

999
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 9: that play, keep going onto the next and again remembering

1000
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 9: that this is a tough position to play when you

1001
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 9: come in sometimes most of the time you're on your own.

1002
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 9: It's all it's you and the receiver figure it out.

1003
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 9: And I think all in all, he's he's done a

1004
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 9: pretty solid job. I really really like him. Obviously, there's

1005
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 9: gonna be mistakes and they're gonna continue to happen, but

1006
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 9: I think he's gonna be a very good guy.

1007
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 5: Can I ask a Tuesday question right now? What is

1008
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 5: it gonna take to get John Stevens active?

1009
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a great I would love to see it.

1010
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 8: But but you know, honestly, with these issues that you're

1011
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 8: gonna have on defense, the way I look at this

1012
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 8: is maybe the best thing you can do is try

1013
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 8: to fire out how you can score more points on offense.

1014
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 8: Now that's gonna require that's gonna require your offense to

1015
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 8: play call and maybe changing up how he looks at

1016
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 8: the game. It may also mean having to get a

1017
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 8: guy like John Stevens active because he can give you

1018
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 8: a little bit more and maybe you can track that

1019
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 8: running back room a little bit. As far as the

1020
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 8: guys that are active, maybe instead of having duce out there.

1021
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 8: Maybe you make John Stevens acting. Maybe that's standard.

1022
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, I just I just I'm curious because the

1023
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 5: span Ford thing, I don't see, you know. But that's

1024
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 5: why I've got a mic and I'm sitting here talking

1025
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 5: to you guys. I don't see it. You know, I'm

1026
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 5: not in that room. But John Stevens it's every week,

1027
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 5: you know. John Stevens is now becoming a healthy scratch

1028
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 5: for this team, and I think there's something about him

1029
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 5: that could just give me maybe a little bit more

1030
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 5: than what I'm getting from span Ford, maybe a little

1031
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 5: bit more than I get from Luke scoon Maker.

1032
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm flipping the two for these two weeks before

1033
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: the buye. If it were me, I'm activating John Stevens

1034
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 3: Junior and activating Reveen span Ford, just to see what

1035
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: he can do, see what he can bring from an

1036
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: offensive perspective in the past game, because you need the

1037
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: defense to step up, and the best defense is a

1038
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: good offense, so you may well give it another receiving Opestionah.

1039
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 8: What do we hearing about Kayln Carson right now?

1040
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: It sounds like he's gonna be good to go this week.

1041
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: There's there's a more passing that he'll have to do.

1042
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 3: As far as on field work, I believe that's starting

1043
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: on Wednesday. But nevertheless, it sounds good that you'll be

1044
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: ready to go for the Pittsburgh.

1045
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 10: It's a good thing for them.

1046
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 4: They'll need that body.

1047
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 10: All right.

1048
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 4: All right, appreciate you guys. Join us.

1049
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 8: We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna continue our player evaluations.

1050
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 8: We got a lot more players we'll get through till then.

1051
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 8: Nick Harris, Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton.

1052
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,000
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1053
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1054
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