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Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interactive Burger Studios. This is Bloomberg Daybreak

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Speaker 1: for Tuesday, May second.

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Speaker 2: Coming up today, Janet Yellen warns the Treasury may run

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Speaker 2: out of cash in a month.

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Speaker 1: President Biden invites leaders in Congress to meet on the

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Speaker 1: debt ceiling.

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Speaker 3: Morgan Stanley plans to cut three thousand more jobs.

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Speaker 1: And writers for some of the most popular TV shows.

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Speaker 4: Walk Off the Job.

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Speaker 5: Testimony continues in the civil trial AGAUS former President Donald Trump,

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Speaker 5: plus a grim discovery as seven bodies are found in

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Speaker 5: rural Oklahoma. I'm John Tucker. More Ahead, I'm John Stash.

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Speaker 3: Aaron's Wards.

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Speaker 5: The Devils shut out the Rangers in Game seven.

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Speaker 6: The next played tonight, the Mets split, the Yankees lost again.

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Speaker 7: That's all straight Ahead on Bloomberg day Break, the business

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Speaker 7: news you need to sturn your day in just one

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Speaker 7: fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg

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Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan.

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Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're

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Speaker 1: following today.

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Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with a warning on the debt ceiling.

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Speaker 3: The Treasury Department now says the US could risk default

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Speaker 3: as soon as June one. Bloomberg's Doug Prisner has the details.

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Speaker 8: Secretary Janet Yellen said her department's ability to use special

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Speaker 8: maneuvers to stay within the debt limit could be exhausted

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Speaker 8: as soon as the start of June. She also said

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Speaker 8: since revenue and spending flows are variable, the actual date

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Speaker 8: The current statutory limit of thirty one point four trillion

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Speaker 8: been staving off a possible default by using special accounting maneuvers.

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Speaker 8: Yellen's new timeline reflects Treasury's latest thinking on when that

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Speaker 8: headroom is likely to be exhausted. In New York, I'm

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Speaker 8: Doug Prisner, Bloomberg Daybreak.

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Speaker 9: Y Doug.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. Meantime, President Biden has invited top congressional leaders to

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Speaker 1: the White House on May ninth to discuss the debt ceiling,

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Speaker 1: and Bloomberg's Ed Baxter has that part of the story.

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Speaker 4: This could be the first sign of any progress. Speaker

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Speaker 4: Kevin McCarthy, Minority Leader Hackeim jeffrees from the House Majority

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Speaker 4: but the White House was emphasizing before the summit that

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Speaker 4: it does not mean a softening of the president's position.

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Speaker 4: Spokesmen Kareeine Jean Pierre he's happy.

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Speaker 1: To meet with mc McCarthy, but not on whether or

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Speaker 4: There are very few congressional days left after May ninth

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Speaker 4: and before June first, so the pressure for a very

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Speaker 4: short term solution is great. In San Francisco, I'm at

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Speaker 4: Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak banks Ed.

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Speaker 3: We now turn to a bevy of news involving the

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Speaker 3: banking sector. The top US regulator wants a sweeping overhaul

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Speaker 3: of deposit insurance. It's after recent bank failures drained some

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Speaker 3: Republic b and Y Mellen CEO Robin Vince says, we

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Speaker 10: Our interests to have a safe and sounds, trustworthy, reliable

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Speaker 8: That's important.

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Speaker 10: It helps to power US growth and USGDP. At the

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Speaker 3: Sector bnymel And CEO Robin Vince spoke with Bloomberg from

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Speaker 3: the Milkin Institute Global Conference in Beverly Hills, California.

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Speaker 1: In Europe, Nathan shares of HSBC are up five percent.

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Speaker 1: first quarter. Speaking of Bloomberg, HSBC CEO nol Quinn says

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Speaker 1: the results are proof he is the right strategy for

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Speaker 11: We said all along that we believe fastest and safest

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Speaker 11: way to get increased valuation, increased profit, increased dividends is

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Speaker 11: by focusing on the current strategy, and I think the

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Speaker 1: HSBC CEO nol Quinn says the bank will also resume

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Speaker 1: paying quarterly dividends for the first time since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Back here in the US, Karen Moore job cuts are

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Speaker 3: senior managers are discussing plans to eliminate about three thousand

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Speaker 1: Well, Morgan Stanley's not the only one cutting jobs here.

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Speaker 1: Nathan City Group CEO Jane Fraser says she is willing

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Speaker 9: This pens up demand is building and building. I just

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Speaker 1: City Group CEO Jane Fraser spoke with Bloomberg at the

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Speaker 1: Milken Conference in Beverly Hills, and we'll bring you more

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Speaker 1: in that conversation coming up in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: IBM expects to pause hiring Karen. It's examining roles that

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Speaker 3: In fact, CEO Arvin Christa tells us about thirty percent

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Speaker 1: The FED begins its two day policy meeting today. Nathan

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Speaker 1: and economists expect the Central Bank to raise rates for

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Speaker 1: a tenth straight time. Steve Off, chief investment officer for

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Speaker 13: We think it's their last hike. They've been a backward

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Speaker 13: people to adjust their books way too quickly, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Steve Off at Federated Hermes thinks the Fed may actually

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Speaker 3: Finally, Karen Hollywood is on hold. This morning. Members of

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Speaker 3: the Writers Guild of America have gone on strike. They're

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Speaker 3: of the other stories making news in New York and

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Speaker 5: Good Morning John, Good Morning Dathan. Authorities in Oklahoma have

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Speaker 5: of Henrietta, oaklub Mogi County Sheriff Eddie Rice.

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Speaker 14: We believe that we have found the persons. We just

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Speaker 5: A comprom well. Sheriff Rince won't say how they died

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Speaker 5: a massive pile up. At least six people aren't dead

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Speaker 15: Multiple vehicles involved, some were on fire, so we had

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Speaker 5: Kevin Shoant with Emergency Management says, clean up we'll continue

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Speaker 5: at former President Donald Trump's civil trial in New York.

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Speaker 5: During cross examination, writer Ejen Carroll, who claims Trump raped

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Speaker 5: shameful to do so. In New York City's water belt

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Speaker 5: forgiveness program, designed to recoup hundreds of millions of dollars

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Speaker 4: That every new Yorker can pay their.

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Speaker 10: Water bills, so DP has extended the embassy program by

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Speaker 5: May thirty, first, Mary Adams is threatened to shut off

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Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty countries. I'm John Tucker, and this

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Speaker 3: Thank you, John. Time now for our Bloomberg Sports update.

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Speaker 3: For that, we bring in John Stash.

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Speaker 6: Are all right, Nathan tookom those three decades for the

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Speaker 6: Devils to get some Game seven revenge on the Rangers,

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Speaker 6: the first Game seven between the two teams since nineteen

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Speaker 6: ninety four double overtime with the Garden. This Game seven

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Speaker 6: Carolina in Round two, Game two Nixon Heat tonight at

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Speaker 6: Cleveland rally scored three in the ninth and one three

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Speaker 6: Mets and Brave's played two. Atlanta won nine to eight,

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Speaker 7: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. Wall Street leaders continue to

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Speaker 7: So let's bring you part of that discussion with the

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Speaker 16: Right now, if you think about that first rescue that

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Speaker 9: Well, it's always a.

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Speaker 17: Sad day when you see a bank fail, but we

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Speaker 17: And that is a good thing because fundamentally the US

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Speaker 9: And getting this address is very important.

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Speaker 17: When we stood up, I think it's a statement that

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Speaker 9: And that was our intention. It wasn't to provide the answer.

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Speaker 17: It was to give the time for confidence to get

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Speaker 14: Which they did with First Republic being out of the way. Now,

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Speaker 16: But what do you expect next in terms of any

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Speaker 9: So I am I'm more optimistic around it.

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Speaker 17: I do think the US financial system is extremely strong.

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Speaker 17: In an enviable position. Our financial system has a particular

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Speaker 9: Everyone plays a different role.

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Speaker 17: This is a strong and highly desirable financial system, which

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Speaker 16: The big just got bigger today, right, this is JP Morgan.

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Speaker 16: Rather than regional banks consolidating among each other. Does that

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Speaker 9: Playing on a global scale.

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Speaker 17: When I look at our own bank, our strategy is

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Speaker 17: important in the context of the local economy. I think

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Speaker 16: There's a lot of worries about the credit contractions that

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Speaker 16: small medium sized banks. They tend to smart a bake

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Speaker 16: will be a significant contraction and how do you handicap

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Speaker 14: To the economy?

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Speaker 9: So certainly the risks now are more to the downside.

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Speaker 17: Than they were at the beginning of the year, and

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Speaker 17: no one anticipated the turmoil that we've seen so far

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Speaker 17: the like that we had hoped. That said, I think,

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Speaker 17: We're anticipating a recession at the back end.

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Speaker 9: Of the year.

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Speaker 9: And not in place.

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Speaker 17: And I think we'll see the US economy, unlike others,

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Speaker 16: So the so you see that recession finally come nearer,

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Speaker 16: what exactly does it look like always impacted.

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Speaker 14: What feels pain?

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Speaker 17: Well, I think we'll see, as everyone always does, more

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Speaker 9: The lower PI COO. The benefit we've got at.

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Speaker 17: The moment has been very strong employment, and that's terrific,

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Speaker 17: But the health of the consumer and that has remained

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Speaker 9: The corporate sector is particularly strong, and I think that's

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Speaker 17: Of us talking about this being a more manageable or

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Speaker 16: And to the extent that you're preparing for a recession,

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Speaker 14: Do you expect you're.

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Speaker 16: Going to have to tighten lending standards even more for

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Speaker 17: We are a long way from being in a situation

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Speaker 9: Be a little bit more strous there and everyone's going

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Speaker 9: to need to keep an eye on that.

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Speaker 16: I want to pivot a little bit here and talk

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Speaker 14: You have a front row seat here.

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Speaker 16: It's a kind of the ripple effects that are being

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Speaker 14: What does that look like from your view, Well, I think.

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Speaker 17: The market is stilting to have a sense of humor

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Speaker 9: The pricing for the.

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Speaker 9: Unprecedented why thing there, So there is a lot more concern.

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Speaker 9: This could be quite dire.

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Speaker 9: This goes down to the wire or worse.

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Speaker 16: How does the rest of the world look at this

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Speaker 9: The banks are very strong as we see.

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Speaker 17: But it is the last thing that the world and

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Speaker 17: Services inflation is painfully persistent. We've seen the goods inflation

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Speaker 9: Need him to stay resolute on inflation.

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Speaker 17: This is not good to have long term inflation into

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Speaker 17: Many of us here at Milkin do believe that the

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Speaker 16: I'm here with Jane Fraser, the CEO of City Group. Jane,

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Speaker 16: I want to give it back to the cigaret and

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Speaker 14: How do you expect that.

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Speaker 16: To weigh on investment, banking, and particularly not just activity

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Speaker 17: Look, our corporate clients come to us from the full

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Speaker 17: Should they be keeping us cash for a cushion, Should

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Speaker 9: Be investing in transformation.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of pent up demand. We're seeing it.

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Speaker 17: I just don't think it's going to get released as

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Speaker 17: Yeah, we're playing the long game here, So I think

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Speaker 17: that's important.

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Speaker 14: I think there's another part.

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Speaker 16: Of the business that's we're talking about. It's your treasury

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Speaker 16: and trade services business. You're a lot of people don't

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Speaker 16: realize you will for trillion dollars worth of money for cooperations.

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Speaker 14: And clients around the world. But how do you get

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Speaker 14: the market to value you for that?

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Speaker 17: Yes, so it is a This business is a thing

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Speaker 17: of beauty. It's for five thousand multinationals four trillion dollars

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Speaker 17: every single day in payroll, in cash.

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Speaker 9: Management, in recurement and supply chain.

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Speaker 17: It's also very very sticky, which is I think of

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Speaker 17: note at the moment, because there's a lot of services

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Speaker 17: attached to it. There's data, it's embedded into the clients businesses,

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Speaker 17: into their technology systems. It helps make them more efficient,

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Speaker 17: manage risk, manage.

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Speaker 9: What's going on.

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Speaker 17: So this is a highly desirable, very very sticky deposit

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Speaker 17: base that sits there, and I think the market's.

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Speaker 9: Beginning to realize that this is a thing.

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Speaker 17: Of beauty that has absolutely been firing on all cylinders

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Speaker 17: as we've been investing behind it in the last few years.

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Speaker 9: It's unique.

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Speaker 16: Is this the race that you're going to win at

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Speaker 16: Because the beginning of your tenure was really marked by

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Speaker 16: exiting certain businesses. So what is the new City Group

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Speaker 16: story to hold on to to kind of bring that

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Speaker 16: stuck and line the performance of your life.

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Speaker 17: We have never been clearer about what our strategy and

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Speaker 17: our vision of our firm is. It is the pre

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Speaker 17: eminem banking partner for clients with crossworder needs. The focused

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Speaker 17: set of businesses that connect very well together with strong synergies.

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Speaker 17: It's a better quality business mixes diversify, It's resilient with

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Speaker 17: a very very good balance sheet beneath it.

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Speaker 9: This is ninety.

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Speaker 17: Percent of our credit is investment grade internationally, eighty five

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Speaker 17: percent of the corporate credit is investment grade, and our

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Speaker 17: consumer businesses prime. So it's a strong balance sheet off

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Speaker 17: the back of a business model that is resilient, and

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Speaker 17: we'll be there to meet our medium term targets.

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Speaker 9: So we're on a very clear path. We know exactly

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Speaker 9: who we are, we.

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Speaker 17: Know what we need to do, and we've been getting

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Speaker 17: a move.

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Speaker 9: On getting it done.

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Speaker 17: So I'm pleased with the progress, but we've still got

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Speaker 17: a bit more to do.

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Speaker 14: I want to look to future technology.

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Speaker 16: How are you thinking about the renewed interest around AI

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Speaker 16: got on by track.

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Speaker 9: Gto this is a game changer.

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Speaker 17: And I think in a way when we look at

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Speaker 17: blockchain and some of the other technologies have come in

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Speaker 17: the last decade, they've been part of the tool kit.

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Speaker 17: But I think we're all beginning to realize what a

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Speaker 17: transformative nature that generative AI in particular could be. It's

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Speaker 17: early days because we have to understand what does this

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Speaker 17: mean in terms of jobs, what does it mean in

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Speaker 17: terms of business models, But this is certainly the one

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Speaker 17: that all of us, you know, the leaders in the

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Speaker 17: industry are looking at and recognizing that there's incredible potential here.

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Speaker 16: And lastly, just in a minute here, Jane, is there

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Speaker 16: anything that can really change your view of this mild

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Speaker 16: a session going into a deeper one.

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Speaker 17: Yes, if something happens on a gea political front. None

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Speaker 17: of us anticipate in the war in Ukraine life last

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Speaker 17: year and that had major impacts, second and third order

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Speaker 17: impacts on energy security, on food security and the other pieces.

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Speaker 17: So I think we've all learned never to never to

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Speaker 17: say never anymore, but nothing will surprise us. So you know,

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Speaker 17: if something happens on that front, that could be very challenging.

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Speaker 9: Let's hope that same minds prevail.

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