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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Oh, the center

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Speaker 1: of the basketball universe that's coming right up. Good morning, everybody, Good,

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Speaker 1: good morning. It's Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm Andy Firman. Here's my partner Bucky Brooks, and we're

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live for the Fox Sports Radio studios. And here

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Speaker 1: we go, the one, the only, the main man on

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend. My guy, my partner, Bucky Brooks. Hello, Buck,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good Andy, how's everything?

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Speaker 3: Happy holiday to you and yours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's a great holiday.

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Speaker 1: Really, you what. I'm so happy that it's Memorial Day

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Speaker 1: week It's like the unofficial start of summer. And I

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Speaker 1: just hope that people realize what the holiday is all about.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get to emotional right now, but

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Speaker 1: you know, when people think of Memorial they were they

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Speaker 1: think they think about three day weekend. You know, Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball used to be doubleheaders and grueling out, but

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Speaker 1: it's really more than that. We know what it's all about,

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Speaker 1: our freedom and how we got there. So leave it

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Speaker 1: at that, but enjoy the weekend, hope whether it's good

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Speaker 1: wherever you may be. But I want to get into

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Speaker 1: this because I have the question to ask you, does

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Speaker 1: anybody have a bar of soap? I need a bar

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Speaker 1: of soap right now? You know why I need a

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Speaker 1: buck Let me tell you why I need it. I

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Speaker 1: want to wash out the out of Britney Grinder, all right,

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Speaker 1: I mean really and truly. Look, I'm not a funny duddy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not appruved by any means. But you know, Britney

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Speaker 1: Grinder plays for the Atlanta Dream and I can't believe

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the WNBA again, but she plays for

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Dream. There was a halftime interview against the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Wings yesterday and in the middle of the interview,

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Speaker 1: she stopped as she turned around, and she says to

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Speaker 1: the official, and they're going into the locker room at

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Speaker 1: halftime be efing better. I mean, really on TV? You

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Speaker 1: know it's okay. I mean, I'm not saying it's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's bad enough. You're gonna say that to the official. Well,

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Speaker 1: we don't hear it, but we had to hear it.

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Speaker 1: You know, Am I wrong? Tell me I'm wrong on

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Speaker 1: this because the reason I say that not because you

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Speaker 1: know I'm not using words like that. It's because there

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Speaker 1: are young women watching this high school girls, junior high

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Speaker 1: school girls, and.

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Speaker 3: They think that maybe this is okay to do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you get away with it, And

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Speaker 1: really the commissioner's got to step in. The commissioner has

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Speaker 1: to step in and say, can you just control the tongue,

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Speaker 1: please do something. I don't get it. I mean, as

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Speaker 1: it come down to that, though, we have to talk

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Speaker 1: like that at least on TV. Tell me Bucket that

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, Tell me no.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like, I certainly wouldn't want any athlete or

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Speaker 2: And I'm not a proud I'm not old school.

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Speaker 4: It's just something that I believe we all have a

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Speaker 4: right to put on our best versions of ourselves whenever

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Speaker 4: we're in front of the camera to inspire young people

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Speaker 4: to do the same. And so if she used I

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Speaker 4: would say inappropriate language in that form, look, man, she

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Speaker 4: should be condemned and maybe even serve consequences when it

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Speaker 4: comes to those things, because I'm sure that's not the

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Speaker 4: image that Debim would like her to portray to all

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Speaker 4: the young people. And as the game is growing and

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Speaker 4: as they're adding young fans to their legion of fans

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Speaker 4: like you, certainly want the players to represent the right way.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt. Look, I understand that in the heat

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you played the game it happened. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: a time and a place in practice, perhaps, I mean

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Speaker 1: Marv Levy never did it, Okay, Tony Dungee never did it.

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Speaker 1: There are certain people that don't use those words. Certain

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Speaker 1: people do, you know, certain people need to do that

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Speaker 1: that's what they do. But to do it on national television,

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Speaker 3: That means it's okay. That means it's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's just kind of like driving your car and that

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Speaker 3: You gotta get stopped. You're doing wrong.

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Speaker 1: You're breaking the rules, all right, not breaking the law,

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Speaker 3: Like you're a teacher. Say you're a teacher in a classroom.

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Speaker 1: You know you want to get your point the cross,

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Speaker 1: You could do it in a kind of a way

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Speaker 1: Not I'm saying that teachers do. But maybe they do.

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Speaker 1: Maybe on the college campus they do. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I've been in a college lecture hall in years.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard that during a college lecture some lecturer

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Speaker 1: you're dropping the F palm? I don't know. Maybe they do. Now,

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, I do know sometimes people use little

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Speaker 4: saucy language to get the point across. And I understand

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Speaker 4: that or whatever in that form which you're talking talking

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Speaker 1: She says right, And I don't want people to think

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Speaker 1: that that that I'm pure. And I've never heard those

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Speaker 1: or flow, you've heard that. But there's a time and

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Speaker 1: a place to use it. And it's not to be

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Speaker 1: And then you'll see a story in a month from

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Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways. You can't be a hypocrite.

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Speaker 1: You know. You gotta be clean and good, you know,

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Speaker 1: and show you put your best foot forward. That's all

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I don't dislike Brittany Grinder, and I'm

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's great. It's great that she's playing.

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Speaker 1: But just clean up the act a little bit, That's

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Speaker 1: all I asked, clean up the act. And I did

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Speaker 1: say coming coming. Look, I did say comming in to

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Speaker 1: this segment the basketball universe, the center of the basketball universe.

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Speaker 1: You want to take a guess what city might be

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Speaker 1: little shocked, but do you want to take a little

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Speaker 2: Uh Lott, guess what city might be?

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Speaker 4: Was one of two yeses Indianapolis, Indiana or the Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Bingo, bingo, You're so smart. Really, I was gonna think

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Speaker 1: maybe New York because of the Liberty and the Knicks,

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Speaker 1: but it is Indianapolis the center of the basketball universe

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Speaker 1: because of the Pacers, and of course the Fever. And

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Speaker 1: I got some stats which really I've read the stats.

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Speaker 1: It blew me away. The Fever averaged last year in

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Speaker 1: the Pacers did last year. Paces averaged sixteen thy seven

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Speaker 1: And get this for ticket prices, the Fever tickets ahead

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Speaker 1: thirty one dollars. Amazing. I mean, I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it. But is it Caitlin Clark. I

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at I think Caitlin Clark certainly plays

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Speaker 4: I think the league has so many stars beyond Kaitlyn

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Speaker 4: Kaitlyn Clark, but there's so many other ladies who are

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Speaker 4: see what you're what you're getting is a lot of that,

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Speaker 4: a lot of people celebrating.

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Speaker 2: The game and all the things that kind of come

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Speaker 1: Could you believe that we're opening the show with the WNBA.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you would have told us that a

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Speaker 1: year ago, two years ago, you would have left on

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Speaker 1: off these people, right, I mean, seriously.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't on the Bengo cart. Did not have that

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Speaker 4: on the Bingo card, did not I think that that's

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Speaker 4: what we.

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Speaker 2: Would start out talking about.

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Speaker 4: But look, man, I love the fact that the ladies

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Speaker 4: are getting there. Just do, and look, it's long overdue

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Speaker 4: when it comes to it, you know, like there have

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Speaker 4: been a lot of ladies who've been doing it for

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Speaker 4: of see them rewarded for their.

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Speaker 1: First you know. I live about maybe about one hundred

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Speaker 1: I went out to Bloomington, which is about maybe one

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Speaker 1: Clark play, which he played Indiana. So my buddy calls

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Speaker 1: up the other day and he says, you want to

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Speaker 1: go to a PACER's playoff game? I said, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. So he says, I just have the

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Speaker 1: Well how much is a ticket?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: He told me two hundred twenty bucks. I said, are

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Speaker 1: you out of your freaking mind? I mean, really, are you?

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Speaker 1: Would you pay two hundred I wouldn't pay two hundred

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Speaker 1: twenty dollars maybe for just about anything, maybe clothing, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean two hundred and twenty dollars for

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Speaker 1: a ticket for a game. I can watch it on

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Speaker 1: TV and then drive back and forth. No less, I'm kidding.

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Speaker 2: They got to do that.

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, because I know that Joe

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Speaker 2: Now, it doesn't look great. Doesn't look great.

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Speaker 4: But if you're the nixt your time, Tiberdeau, the one

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Speaker 4: But I think the focus has to be on they

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Speaker 4: They have to a lot of times when you're struggling,

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Speaker 3: It's a new game, that's it.

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Speaker 4: It depends on how mature the team is. You know,

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Speaker 4: What could we have done? We should be this, and

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, how much does that rest on the shoulders

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Speaker 4: You can't, look, you can't get them to forget about it, Like,

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Speaker 4: If they can do that, yeah, they can get to it.

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Speaker 2: Where you can get better.

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Speaker 4: You want to use those losses as lessons to hips

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to believe what's happening now with the

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Speaker 3: But that's the game basketball today.

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Speaker 2: That is the game.

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Speaker 4: Where you do see these scores and these lopsided things,

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Speaker 3: It was amazing what they did. That team shot.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota shot fifty percent from threes, twenty for forty last night.

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Speaker 1: Forty threes. It's unheard of, really, twenty for forty and

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Speaker 1: the forty threes now as far as Oklahoma City. And

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Speaker 1: while they lost fourteen for forty four, that's the game

437
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Speaker 1: right there. That's all you gotta do is look at

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Speaker 1: the box score and see how many threes a shot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's it. It's the three ball always.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it. I mean

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Speaker 1: I I mean, I love basketball, I love the game

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Speaker 1: of basketball. I love watching basketball. But I just think

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Speaker 1: maybe it's hard for me to adapt the change. I mean,

444
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Speaker 1: what about yourself. I mean, you've seen the game back

445
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Speaker 1: in the day, even the Golden State Warriors, you know,

446
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Speaker 1: when they were rolling, all right, they didn't do it

447
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Speaker 1: that way. They played the game. They passed, they ran plays.

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Speaker 1: I remember the old Celtics. I mean, I don't want

449
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Speaker 1: to go back too far in time, but it was

450
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Speaker 1: just a different game, you know, and there was a

451
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Speaker 1: big man in the middle. You know, I get it,

452
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Speaker 1: the game morphs into something else. But really, and truly,

453
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Speaker 1: there's got to be a better way. There's got to

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Speaker 1: be an answer, because I just don't think the fans

455
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Speaker 1: enjoy watching guys go down to the court just heaven

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Speaker 1: of threes.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's certainly not the way that

458
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Speaker 4: it was intended. It worked for some teams, but everybody

459
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Speaker 4: doesn't have the same talent, and so you have to

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Speaker 4: be careful when you're attempting to copy another team style.

461
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Speaker 4: You got to make sure that your talent matches what

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Speaker 4: they're doing if you want to implement this game. Otherwise

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Speaker 4: you're wasting your time.

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Speaker 1: So basically you're saying you made a great point there.

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Speaker 1: Everybody does have the same talent, but everybody could shoot

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Speaker 1: the three. So the three point goal is the equalizer.

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Speaker 1: You know, if I don't have a great talent on

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Speaker 1: my team, if I don't have a big man that

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Speaker 1: could put in twenty five thirty eight and pull down

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Speaker 1: twelve boards, and if I don't have a guy like that,

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Speaker 1: I could kind of make up for that by shooting

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Speaker 1: threes and hopefully they go win that night.

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Speaker 3: That's the equalizer right there.

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Speaker 1: The three point goal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the three point shot is definitely the equalize, Like

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Speaker 4: that's what people are using to try and balance it out.

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Speaker 1: It's the equalize, right But on a day to day basis,

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Speaker 1: you don't know if they're going to go win or not.

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Speaker 1: Because Minnesota is playing tomorrow night, the hosting Oklahoma City again,

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Speaker 1: they're down two games to one, and if the ant

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Speaker 1: man doesn't hit those threes, there's a good chance that

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna win. That's basically where it's at right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but every game is its own game, so

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Speaker 4: we can't just say that it's like that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean like and man has to play well, he has

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Speaker 4: to bring his a game if they don't have any

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Speaker 4: shadow of being able to pull it up.

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Speaker 1: I still think that Minnesota is a better team. I

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Speaker 1: may be crazy. I think they're more physical. I think

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Speaker 1: they could beat them up physically. I think they're bigger,

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Speaker 1: they're longer, and then more physical. I like Minnesota. I

492
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Speaker 1: don't want to see Minnesota move on. But again, if

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Speaker 1: they can rely on the three, it's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if they play ball inside, I

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Speaker 1: think they could get it done. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. I mean, shake Gillius Alexander, he

497
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Speaker 1: didn't do much less. He's got fourteen points. Again, you know,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't score. They don't win. Man scores.

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Speaker 2: They win.

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Speaker 1: It's as easy as that, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it is. That's that's that's good,

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Speaker 2: that's a good observation. That's what it is. I have

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Speaker 2: to play.

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Speaker 4: In the Minnesota Oklahoma. I think Oklahoma City is the

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Speaker 4: better overall team. I would like to see Minnesota win,

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Speaker 4: but Oklahoma City is deeper. Uh, they have more time

507
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Speaker 4: team and they have the MVP.

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Speaker 1: Which it is an argument in itself. I'm not so

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Speaker 1: certain he should have been the MVP, but he got

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Speaker 1: the MVP. So that's for another day. We move on.

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Speaker 3: All right, he's the man. He is Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: in this hour. Yeah, and a an hour number two

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Speaker 1: and the Blame Game and now a number three. But

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Speaker 1: right now we're gonna tell you this, the shove stays.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's get into this deal right now, because I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about what happened in the National Football League. We're

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Speaker 1: to vote this week, and it's.

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Speaker 3: About the Push Push show, all right.

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Speaker 1: And Jalen Hurts, the quarterback of the Eagles, doesn't even

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Speaker 1: call it the touch push. He calls it the standard

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Speaker 1: quarterback sneak, which is basically is right. But it's the

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Speaker 1: quarterback sneak, that's what it is, all right. So there

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Speaker 1: was a vote they voted in Minneapolis this week and

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Speaker 1: they won by two two votes by the owners that

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Speaker 1: they're going to keep it.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to ban it. The player's gonna stay.

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Speaker 1: But the Green Bay Packers back in May, I think

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Speaker 1: was May nineteenth, they submitted a proposal that prohibits an

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Speaker 1: offensive player from quote pushing, pulling, lifting, on, assisting, or

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Speaker 1: running except by individually blocking opponents for him. All right,

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Speaker 1: and I guess you know the cry was it's a

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Speaker 1: safety factor. It's not. I mean, there was no evidence

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Speaker 1: that you can get hurt with the toush push. I mean,

556
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Speaker 1: you get hurt doing anything, but the toush push did

557
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Speaker 1: not cause injury. It did not.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's so weak on so many different levels,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, I just I hate

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Speaker 4: when and these things kind of happen where you have

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Speaker 4: a team who kind of subtlely behind the scenes, starts

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Speaker 4: to build a campaign against another team that is doing

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Speaker 4: something successfully. My thing would be everyone has the opportunity

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Speaker 4: to run that same play, right to execute whatever the

565
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Speaker 4: touch push however you want to call it, and to

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Speaker 4: be able to win doing it. But it's just annoying

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Speaker 4: to see like the Packers make the proposal and then.

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Speaker 2: Just all of it.

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Speaker 4: So I'm glad that it didn't it didn't get past

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Speaker 4: that it's not banned, But I just feel like teams

571
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Speaker 4: should put it on themselves to get better, to learn

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Speaker 4: how to defend the play as opposed to winding and

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Speaker 4: morning and complaining about the deal.

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Speaker 1: Apparently at the vote, it got somewhat ugly at the vote,

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Speaker 1: and I think Nick Siriani, the Eagle's coach, he went crazy.

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Speaker 3: He lashed out at some of the other people.

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Speaker 1: In that meeting, and really and truly, I think with

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Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey came up there and basically spoke on why

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Speaker 1: the toush push should stay. And there's really no problem

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Speaker 1: with the tous pushy although he did it and he

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Speaker 1: said it was painful at times, but you know, no

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Speaker 1: one really got hurt by it. And there's some stats.

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Speaker 1: I guess they brought this up at the meeting, and

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Speaker 1: that's why they wanted to get rid of it, because

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams couldn't stop it. Eagles, in a

586
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Speaker 1: three year run, they ran the quarterback sneak. They ran

587
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Speaker 1: him one hundred and twenty two times in one yard

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Speaker 1: to go situation since twenty twenty two. This is according

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Speaker 1: to stats published by True Media. They scored thirty touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and gained one hundred and five first downs on those plays.

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Speaker 1: They used it to score first in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty two season and the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: fourth season, Kansas City Chiefs defensive tackle Chris Jones tried

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Speaker 1: to stop the last one lining up sideways and that

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Speaker 1: they couldn't stop it. It's basically what it was, just

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Speaker 1: couldn't stop the play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they couldn't start to play. Is I mean, that's

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Speaker 4: so crazy that it has become an unstoppable player. But

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Speaker 4: they look, they put a lot of time on task

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Speaker 4: on it. It's something where they found a way to

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Speaker 4: create an advantage. Their execution is different than others and

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Speaker 4: they deserve credit for that. And you know, I think

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Speaker 4: people have to kind of meet them and devote the

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Speaker 4: kind of time and resources like the Eagles did to

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Speaker 4: be able.

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Speaker 2: To stop them. And if you're not doing that, then

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Speaker 2: that's on you. That's not that's not the Eagles fault

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Speaker 2: that you have been able to execute at a high level.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, in this day and age, everything's gotta gotta

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Speaker 1: be cute. There's gotta be a you know, a saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, like tush push whatever you play International Football League,

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Speaker 1: I am sure there were plays like that quarterback sneak

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Speaker 1: where they did push guys over the goal line. What

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Speaker 1: was it called a tush push, But they did plays

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Speaker 1: like that. Now it became popularized with social media and

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Speaker 1: everybody's talking about it, so it became bigger than life

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Speaker 1: when you played. Did they have anything like that where

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Speaker 1: they play similar to that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, nothing quite as unstoppable as that, Like I

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Speaker 4: can't even recall.

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Speaker 2: I mean like I can't.

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Speaker 4: I can't think of anything being quote unquote like that,

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Speaker 4: like being an unstoppable play like that.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's just a remarkable play. And if I'm the Eagles,

625
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Speaker 2: like to.

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Speaker 4: Thumb my nose at everybody, I may jump into it

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Speaker 4: in regular situations every now and then, just because it's unstoppable,

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Speaker 4: just because they took everybody through the headache and heartbreak

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Speaker 4: of going through the vote, I look for them to

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Speaker 4: do it more and be even more arrogant about how

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Speaker 4: they elect to get into it.

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Speaker 1: Rub it in their face a little bit, really.

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Speaker 2: Little taste a little bit.

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Speaker 1: The question is this, I don't think every team could

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Speaker 1: do it. You have to the personnel to do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Eagles have like a three hundred plus

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Speaker 1: lineman on the offensive line. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 1: every team could possibly do that to push, can they?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think everyone can pull

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Speaker 4: it off. I think it's the way that they do it.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a little different the way they executed the.

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Speaker 2: People that they have.

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Speaker 4: The quarterback that they have doing it is a physical runner,

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Speaker 4: a guy who's super strong when it comes to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone can't do it.

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Speaker 4: It's very similar to what we talked about people shooting

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Speaker 4: threes and.

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Speaker 2: Doing all of that.

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Speaker 4: Everybody doesn't have Steph Curry and Klay Thompson and all

650
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Speaker 4: those guys to shoot the three ball like they were

651
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Speaker 4: able to shoot it.

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Speaker 2: So I mean that's kind of part of the deal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now I want to just move into this situation

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Speaker 1: if I can. Back in the day, and I think

655
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Speaker 1: you may have been playing when this happened. After the

656
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Speaker 1: ball game was over, they give like a ten or

657
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Speaker 1: fifteen minute soothing down, quiet down period to relax. Then

658
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Speaker 1: they opened the locker room and then the media would

659
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Speaker 1: barge in. They all come in and they grabbed various

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Speaker 1: players in front of their locker and talk. Nowadays, they

661
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Speaker 1: don't really do that. They have like an interview room

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Speaker 1: and the PR guy would take two or three get

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Speaker 1: of a star player, put them on a podium and

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Speaker 1: then the media sit out there in an audience and

665
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Speaker 1: they ask questions in a group setting. When you played,

666
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Speaker 1: was it the barging into the locker room or was

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Speaker 1: it the group setting.

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Speaker 4: Barge to the locker room. Yeah, yeah, you bart it

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Speaker 4: to the locker room. You have to scrum everyone come

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Speaker 4: in there. The cooling off period. I think in the

671
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Speaker 4: NFL it's only twelve minutes. You have a twelve minute

672
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Speaker 4: cooling off period before everyone can come in there. So

673
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Speaker 4: you need to gather your thoughts, make sure that you

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Speaker 4: don't do anything that is inflammatory or unbecoming of the team.

675
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Speaker 4: So you just have to like lock in and focus.

676
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Speaker 4: But yeah, the cooling period was a part of the

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Speaker 4: deal when I.

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Speaker 1: Was playing, Okay, so I remember it well and I

679
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Speaker 1: really enjoyed it better that way. If you're a media guy,

680
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Speaker 1: if you're a PR guy, it's easy to tell you why.

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Speaker 1: Number One, sometimes to grab the player to go to

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Speaker 1: the podium. They didn't want to do it. They didn't

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Speaker 1: want to go up there, and they're sitting up there

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Speaker 1: and they just have to take shot after shot. For

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Speaker 1: media guys in the audience, number one. Number two for

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Speaker 1: the consumer, for the person who's reading or watching TV

687
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Speaker 1: or listening on the radio, it's a lot better to

688
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Speaker 1: have that gang thing opening up the door let everybody in,

689
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Speaker 1: because everybody's gonna at a different take. Everybody gets a

690
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Speaker 1: different story, you know, homoginize. When you have that sitting

691
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Speaker 1: down in the audience and people on the podium, it

692
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Speaker 1: really is I mean, everybody has the same story because

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Speaker 1: no one's saying anything different. You know, if I'm going

694
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Speaker 1: into the locker room talking to Bucky Brooks in front

695
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Speaker 1: of his locker and Joe Blow is sitting at the

696
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Speaker 1: other locker talking to another player on the team on

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Speaker 1: a various play, they make it a different take and

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00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: a different different story, and it's a lot more interesting.

699
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Speaker 1: So I talk about that simply because Anthony Edwards right now,

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Speaker 1: he got caught up with the emotion for the Timberwolves

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Speaker 1: the other day against Oklahoma City in Game one, and

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Speaker 1: he got fine, you know for his emotion. I thought

703
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Speaker 1: it was ridiculous. It really was. After the game, he says,

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Speaker 1: I only took thirteen f'm shots and he said this

705
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Speaker 1: on the podium, the postgame podium. What happened?

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Speaker 3: It cost him fifty grand fifty grand from the league.

707
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Speaker 1: His total.

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Speaker 3: Now, I was shocked when I heard this.

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Speaker 1: His total infines for the National Basketball Association four hundred

710
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Speaker 1: and twenty thousand dollars. It's unreal. It's crazy and profanity.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's good, better and different, but that's

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Speaker 1: just the way he speaks. There are some people that

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Speaker 1: speak of profanity. Really, some people do. I'm not saying

714
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Speaker 1: it's good to a bed just as the way they are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why he should be fine for that.

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Speaker 1: I know I told about Britney Grinder and she could

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Speaker 1: have controlled herself. I mean, she basically stopped the interview

718
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Speaker 1: on CBS yesterday, the CBS Sports Network for the Atlanta Tree.

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Speaker 1: She stopped in the middle, turned around and used the

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Speaker 1: F bomb to an official and can continue the interview.

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Speaker 1: This is Anthony Edwards, just just the way he talks.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know why he should be fine because

723
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Speaker 1: this is a postgame situation. He's emotionally kind of tied up,

724
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Speaker 1: fed up with the loss, and he only took thirteen

725
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Speaker 1: shots and the league's killing him right now. So what

726
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Speaker 1: happened if the game two he didn't speak to the media,

727
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Speaker 1: who's the loser on that? The public? The public wants

728
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Speaker 1: to hear stars. The public wants to see and hear

729
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Speaker 1: guys like Anthony at which because they find him, because

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Speaker 1: they didn't let him cool down a little bit. We

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Speaker 1: can't hear Anthony Edwhich talk now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like Anthony Edwards can't use language like that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're still trying to do a kn't friendly product.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like even though it's press and all this

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Speaker 4: other stuff, like you still want to be Kim Fridlan

736
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Speaker 4: because remember you have all these entities. The league has

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Speaker 4: its own network, NBA TV, These things are gonna be broadcast.

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Speaker 4: You can't allow Anthony Edwards just to say whatever he

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Speaker 4: wants to say without repercussion. So they do have to

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Speaker 4: find him. And he has to be mature enough to

741
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Speaker 4: use different language. He has to know how to code switch,

742
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Speaker 4: how to change up his tone given the platform and

743
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Speaker 4: the situation. And for him to really I would say,

744
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: throw away four June and twenty thousand dollars, that's crazy

745
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: when you certainly can use other words.

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Speaker 2: He's smart enough to use other words in those situations.

747
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, let me just say one last thing.

748
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the Britney Grind and people

749
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: are going to say, well, you know, I'm a hypocrite

750
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Speaker 1: because I thought bad about Britney Grind and now were

751
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: defending Anthony ed which, No, profanity was not directed at

752
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: someone when Anthony Edwards used it, okay, And it's hard

753
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: to see why the NBA views this as such a

754
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: big time problem. With Britney Grinder, that profanity was used

755
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: and pointed towards an official. With Anthony Edwards it was not.

756
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the same, but in my mind it's not.

757
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Speaker 1: Do you agree to that he didn't say it towards

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Speaker 1: a coach and official another player, No, he just did

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Speaker 1: it to himself. So I only took thirteen FN shots,

760
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: that's what he did, So it was towards himself. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's a big difference there, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think they're trying to clean it up just because

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Speaker 4: he Look, people have talked about me in the face

764
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Speaker 4: of the NBA, and what you have is you have

765
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Speaker 4: them trying to make sure that if he's going to

766
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Speaker 4: be the face him or any other player, if they're

767
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: going to be the face of the NBA, they always

768
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Speaker 4: represent what the NBA values in up holes and so

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Speaker 4: if he's using inappropriate language, that's why they found them

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Speaker 4: to correct the behavior.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, all right, he's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: I'm may not ease prok family right now. It's not time.

773
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: You got a question. He's got the answer. It's Bucky

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Speaker 1: here we go with ask Bucking Now. Commissioner Roger Goodell

793
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: of the National Football League is talking about again an

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Speaker 1: eighteen game schedule. Guy keeps on talking about that's eventually

795
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Speaker 1: gonna happen. But how does that benefit the league? How

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Speaker 1: does that benefit the players health wise and everything else?

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Speaker 2: Your benefits of league?

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Speaker 4: Because more games equals more TV, More TV equals more money.

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Speaker 4: More money goes to more players given the revenue split.

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Speaker 2: That's why.

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Speaker 4: So that's how it's beneficial to all the parties involved

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Speaker 4: in regardless of what people say about the.

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Speaker 2: Health and those things.

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00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: Look, there's no way to document that the extra game

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00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 4: is going to have long term consequences to the players

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Speaker 4: that are playing the game.

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Speaker 2: The money is what it's all about. It's about expanding

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Speaker 2: the pot.

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Speaker 1: How do you like that? Okay, all right, here what

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Speaker 1: you're saying now? Angel Reese says there's no place in

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Speaker 1: the WNBA for racism?

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Speaker 3: All right, I agree? But is there actually racism in

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Speaker 3: the league?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Tell me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if there's racism in the league.

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Speaker 4: I would say that the commentary that exists outside of

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00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 4: the league regarding the league has racial undertones at times.

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Speaker 4: And obviously everyone's trying to make a heroon and villain

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Speaker 4: out of Kaitlyn Clark and Ajeurie. So when she talks

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Speaker 4: about that, I don't think she's talking about the league itself.

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Speaker 4: It's some of the periphery stuff, the conversations that exist

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Speaker 4: outside of the league about the league that have racial components.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you mentioned the Reice Clark. I guess confrontation or

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Speaker 1: competition very similar. Maybe that turned the NBA around with

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Speaker 1: Magic and Larry Bird. Is that possible? Maybe the league

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Speaker 1: wants that.

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Speaker 4: I mean some of that, like it certainly brings intrigue.

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Speaker 4: I mean, let's be honest, anytime that you have that

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Speaker 4: racial dynamic, it adds a level of intrigue. Now, some

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Speaker 4: of that intrigue leads to bad and negative commentary, but

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Speaker 4: some of that also feeds interest in more people paying

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Speaker 4: attention to the sport.

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Speaker 2: So it's a double edged sword.

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Speaker 4: But it certainly is good for the league because there's

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Speaker 4: more eyeballs on the league than ever before.

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Speaker 1: Okay, besides the Tush push, what else should NFLO be

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Speaker 1: concerned about? I mean, they made such a big deal

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Speaker 1: about the tous push, there's gotta be other things on

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Speaker 1: their plate that they're concerned with rather than that.

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Speaker 4: My concern as a former defensive player some of the

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Speaker 4: past interference penalties. I feel like they should address that

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Speaker 4: because the PI, the past interference thing is such a

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Speaker 4: long impactful play in terms of changing the yardist I

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Speaker 4: would be more worried about that play than any other play.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to continue. I'm going to do a

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Speaker 1: part B on this question right now. They weren't crazy

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Speaker 1: on the Toush push, probably because, as you said, they

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Speaker 1: couldn't stop it. But why wouldn't they go crazy on

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Speaker 1: flag football where these guys could get injured? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that they were so quick. The pass

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Speaker 1: of the flag football the almost unanimously and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be part of the twenty twenty eight Olympics in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: But the owners didn't say a boo about the flag football.

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Speaker 1: But they weren't crazy on Toush push.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: The reason why because they see flag football that is

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Speaker 4: potentially expanding the game's reach and you want to have

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Speaker 4: that global connection. And even though you're talking about putting

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Speaker 4: the players at risk for injury, you've seen it with

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Speaker 4: the Dream Team and others. How beneficial it has been

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Speaker 4: to the league to have that reach. Think about the

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Speaker 4: MVP's last seven have been international players. Part of it

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Speaker 4: has been fueled by the Dream Team and that success.

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Speaker 4: The league wants to tap into that.

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Speaker 1: Do you see a lot of players saying thanks, but

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Speaker 1: no thanks, I don't want to play flag football. No.

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Speaker 4: I think there'd be a bunch of players that are

868
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Speaker 4: interested in doing it. Like everyone wants to have their

869
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: Steph Curry moment, meaning they have a chance to do

870
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Speaker 4: something that's bigger than just a team. A gold medal

871
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: only happens once every four years, and it'd be a

872
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Speaker 4: very elite group of players that are able to do that. Yeah,

873
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Speaker 4: that's why everyone wants all in on that.

874
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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Last, but not least, has

875
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: a WNBA and the NBA become too physical of a game?

876
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 4: No?

877
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Speaker 2: I love it.

878
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: The competitive conflict is good for the league. It's good

879
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 4: because they're making people earn it. Before it was too

880
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 4: touch he was too easy.

881
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: You got to make people earn it. The physicality has

882
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: been a good thing, not a bad thing.

883
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Speaker 1: All right, that'll do with that'll roup. I learned so

884
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: much from you. When I hear ask Bucky, I really do.

885
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: I was really concerned with the tush push situation and

886
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: also with this flag football and we'll get into that

887
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: probably more so in the next two hours right here.

888
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: But he is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman, and one

889
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: coach says their standards have been lowered that a much

890
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: more where on Fox Sports Sunday coming up right here

891
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: next all right, perhaps it's sour grapes. We'll explain that

892
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody, Happy Memorial

893
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: Day weekend. This is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks,

894
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Speaker 1: I'm Andy Furman, and we're broadcasting live from the Fox

895
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio studios. And of course here's my guy, my pardoner,

896
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: my friend, the guy who played in the National Football

897
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: League and has only answers because I have none, I

898
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: really don't. He's my guy, He's my tutor, my teacher,

899
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Speaker 1: the one and only Bucky Brooks.

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00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: Hello, Buck, how are you?

901
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: I'm good? Andy has everything.

902
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Speaker 1: Everything is great. And by the way, for the best

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Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Of course, they're on the

910
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Now, I guess you never believe that your school,

911
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: you're alma mater, you are a school of choice, University

912
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: of North Carolina will be so popularized so much in

913
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: the news, almost on a daily basis. Maybe maybe because

914
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: now it's the slower season in sports, or maybe that's

915
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: why the Bill Belichick Jordan Hudson story has taken a

916
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: new life. I don't know, But how surprised are you

917
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: that the North Carolina Tar Hills and their football program

918
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: and their new coach and his girlfriend who I guess

919
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: they say, now they're engaged all of a sudden. This

920
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: is like the.

921
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: Story of the Spring, it really is.

922
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

923
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: I mean, it's crazy, but it's annoying as an alarm

924
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 4: that this is so much of the story. But it's

925
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 4: part of the deal when you get into the celebrity

926
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: coaching hire. And the only reason why I call Bill

927
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 4: Belichick a celebrity coaching hire is because they are at

928
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 4: a six time Super Bowl winner, a guy who's never

929
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: coached at the collegiate level, and when you brought him in,

930
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 4: it was gonna be a lot of intrigue just because

931
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Speaker 4: of the way that it ended in New England, the

932
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Speaker 4: fallout that people can talk about like who's responsible for

933
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: the success of the Patriots, the goat, Tom Brady or

934
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick.

935
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Speaker 2: So you had all that as a backdrop.

936
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Speaker 4: But then he shows up and he has a twenty

937
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 4: four year old girlfriend, and there's a factor to that

938
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: because he's seventy three, she's twenty four at the age gap,

939
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 4: whatever side that you rest on, is it inappropriate, is

940
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Speaker 4: it not, is it creepy?

941
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Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever.

942
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: You knew that that was going to generate some clicks

943
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: and conversations and storylines and those things, because for so

944
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 4: long Bill Belichick has been very guarded, very private about this.

945
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: So this is like a drastic departure from the guy

946
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: that we've known walking up and down the sidelines in

947
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Speaker 4: New England.

948
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: That is a big part of it.

949
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Speaker 4: And then as people interpreted her presence around the facility

950
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 4: and her influence and impact on him, it's become a

951
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: much bigger story than it really needs to be.

952
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: There's really no shortage of opinions about the North Carolina

953
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: coach Bill Belichick. There's no doubt about that. And I

954
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: think this really came to light when they're that CBS

955
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: Sunday Morning interview when she sort of interrupted the interview

956
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: and saying we're not going there when they wanted to

957
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: talk about how they met and things like that, which

958
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: everybody went crazy saying like now she's basically leaning and

959
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: directing and taking care of Bill Belichick's life. You know,

960
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: So everybody's got an opinion. You know. My feeling is this,

961
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: who really cares? It's his life? And really and truly

962
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: I think the media should stay away from personal lives.

963
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: That's a story for another day, and it's a different

964
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: story whatsoever. But you know, I guess when you're in

965
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Speaker 1: the public light of people, she gonna write spin history.

966
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Speaker 3: You're an athlete, you're in the public forum.

967
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Speaker 1: You've got a big stage, people are gonna follow you around,

968
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Speaker 1: and whatever you do is gonna be news.

969
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a big part of it.

970
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Speaker 4: And now here's what I can say, Like athletes and

971
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Speaker 4: coaches and everyone, you can't have it both ways, where

972
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Speaker 4: you don't want to have like public spotlight, but then

973
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Speaker 4: you or your significant other are heavy in the social

974
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Speaker 4: media game, posting everything, because when you post everything, you

975
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: put everything out there for public consumption. People now are

976
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Speaker 4: going to want to ask more questions about the things

977
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Speaker 4: that you're involved in that you've shown on Instagram or

978
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Speaker 4: x or whatever it is your social media platform of choice.

979
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Speaker 4: And with Hudson being prominent, and I would say, like

980
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 4: she just was second runner up in Miss main pageant,

981
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Speaker 4: she's been involved in that, Belichick has made her front

982
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Speaker 4: and center, put her like whatever it is the NFL

983
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Speaker 4: Honors and all those things they where they are mocking

984
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Speaker 4: the NFL with the rings and that stuff. So all

985
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: of that stuff has opened you up to have more

986
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 4: public criticism, more critiques, and more interest in your relationship now.

987
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: I listened to Bill.

988
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 4: Belichick on a podcast The Pivot with Ryan Clark and

989
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 4: company like Fred Taylor, Channing Crowder, and he shed a

990
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: lot of light on their relationship and basically what he said,

991
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: like a lot of people who have significant others, the

992
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Speaker 4: significant other takes a huge role and kind of maybe

993
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: managing or helping you with your personal affairs. And he

994
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: said that at North Carolina when he first started, Jordan

995
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: was doing a lot of stuff, kind of sifting through

996
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: some of the requests that he was getting and telling

997
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 4: them which ones you need to pay attention to, which

998
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: ones we can ignore, and those things. And so he

999
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: is saying that has become a much bigger story than

1000
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 4: it ever needed to be, because there wasn't something where

1001
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 4: she was working it in the university. She was helping him.

1002
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 4: She was streamlining parts of his life to allow him

1003
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Speaker 4: to focus on the ball without being distracted by all

1004
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: love the personal stuff that kind of comes along the

1005
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 4: way when you're the head coach of a prominent program.

1006
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you said that, because there was

1007
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: a kid, a football player at the Archbishop Molo High

1008
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: School in Cincinnati, a football power who's now going to

1009
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: North Carolina. There was a big story in the Cincinnati

1010
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: Inquire about that. Gripped it out and mail at the

1011
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: Bill and he wrote me back, I'm just wondering if

1012
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: she saw my mail. Maybe she opened up the mail.

1013
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't.

1014
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: Bill, Although he wrote me a handwritten.

1015
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: Thank you note, which he usually she might she know,

1016
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: she might have went through it.

1017
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 4: And so I was like, oh, you know what, Bill,

1018
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 4: this is something you got to make sure that you

1019
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: hit Andy back, and so she slid it on his

1020
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 4: desk and maybe removed some other ones that weren't as

1021
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: intriguing or as flattering as I'm sure your letter was,

1022
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: and she didn't wanted to make sure that you got

1023
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 4: a response. So maybe Hudson is responsible for you getting

1024
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: a reply. Maybe you should thank her.

1025
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: You indeed, I started writing her now maybe who knows.

1026
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he is the thing, and I

1027
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: want to get this. I want to pull the curtain

1028
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: back a little bit with you because you played in

1029
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Speaker 1: North Carolina where they hired Belichick. How shocked were you?

1030
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: Your thoughts and what do you think about the program? Now?

1031
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: Good hands, bad hands? I'm reading stories now rumors that

1032
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: he's never going to coach a game with North Carolina.

1033
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't believe that's bo, But your thoughts as to

1034
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: the lumb who played football there?

1035
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that story?

1036
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 4: Like, So everyone is so worried about Belichick's contract because

1037
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 4: I think on June first, the buyout that was ten

1038
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 4: million drops down to one meeting. So everyone is like, hey,

1039
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 4: if he wants to buy out, he ain't leave and

1040
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: leave right now. But why would he do that when

1041
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: he has so many people that have followed him to

1042
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 4: that destination, his sons, he has Mike Lombardy general manager.

1043
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: He's invested a lot in the program to just walk

1044
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 4: away before even coaching the game, So that is nonsense.

1045
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: I would say that I'm intrigued.

1046
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 4: I'm really intrigued because we all know that Nick Saban

1047
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: has credited Bill Belichick with teaching him a lot about

1048
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: the game and the program and even the process that

1049
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: they've used successfully.

1050
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: At Alabama when he was there.

1051
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 4: If a pupil is saying that about the teacher, if

1052
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: the teacher takes a job, you wonder if the teacher

1053
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: can have similar success. So I'm fascinated by watching Bill

1054
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: Belichick implement his own process at North Carolina to see

1055
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 4: what kind of success the team can have. We saw

1056
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: what they did in New England, which was unprecedented. Can

1057
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: they kind of, you know, popped a genie out the

1058
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: bottle a little bit and see if they can sprinkle

1059
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 4: some of that matching dust on my alma mater.

1060
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 2: I would love to see that.

1061
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 4: But look, it's gonna be tough, tough sledding, new game,

1062
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: new coach, but I'm optimistic.

1063
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: It's funny because there was a story just the other day.

1064
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: A recent interview North Carolina chancellor, the Chancellor of North Carolina,

1065
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: Lee Roberts, he kind of pooh poohed the idea that

1066
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: this drama is a bad thing with Jordan and Bill

1067
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: Roberts is. He said, he's delighted about all the attention,

1068
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: which is great that the football program is getting. He's

1069
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: happy to see. This is unbelievable. All the tickets have

1070
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: been sold out despite a price increase of tickets at

1071
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: North Carolina. And I'm quoting him right now. This is

1072
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: Lee Roberts, the chancellor. We wanted when we hired coach

1073
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: Belichick to bring Carolina football to another level. We increased

1074
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: the price of our season tickets and we sold them out.

1075
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: We're delighted about all the attention being paid to Carolina football,

1076
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: which is almost the opposite to what I heard when

1077
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: he was hired, because I think Bubba Cunningham kind of

1078
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: wanted him and he was pushed aside. A lot of

1079
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: the lums and the people on the board were kind

1080
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Speaker 1: of against it. So, I mean, it looks now that

1081
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: the chancellor, the man himself is happy. And when is

1082
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: he happy everybody's happy?

1083
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 4: I guess yeah, and Chancellor Roberts may also operate under

1084
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: premise that all attention is good attention where there's good, bad,

1085
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: controversial or not. Anytime you have an opportunity to mention

1086
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 4: the University of North Carolina in the football program, the

1087
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: Q rating goes up for the tar Heels and they

1088
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 4: are okay with some of the stuff that is going on.

1089
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 4: I guess like I can't even say it like it's bad,

1090
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 4: but the relationship being a big thing that has a

1091
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: lot of casual fans tuning in to see what the

1092
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 4: tar Heels are.

1093
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: Going to do.

1094
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 4: And much like Deon Sanders had a huge impact a

1095
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 4: significant impact on Colorado beyond the field, Bill Belichick can

1096
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 4: have the same for the university. Studies have shown, research

1097
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: has shown is when you have a good football team,

1098
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 4: attendance and applications go up because people want to be

1099
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: tied with successful programs, and this is a chance for

1100
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 4: the university to take a quantum leap in football that

1101
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: can help them gain some of the notoriety that the

1102
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: basketball team is always brought to the university. If the

1103
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: football team gets up and going well, then lookout because

1104
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: it changes the way that people viewed North Carolina not

1105
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 4: only athletically but also academically.

1106
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: No doubt about that. Now North Carolina season opener against

1107
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: TCU ready, it's going to be a scheduled Monday night

1108
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: primetime game at ESPN. That's amazing because usually if North

1109
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: Carolina was on prime time once a year, will be

1110
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: a big deal. But now North Carolina has games against Clemson,

1111
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: Syracuse and that rivalry game against Duke. I gotta believe

1112
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: at least another one of those games will be on

1113
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: prime time as well.

1114
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, depending on how to start, Like, who knows how

1115
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 4: many of those games can be on prime time. I

1116
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 4: think it gives them an opportunity to really make a

1117
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: move to be a team that gets a lot of

1118
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 4: the intrigue. And there's no reason why Carolina can't follow.

1119
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: The blueprint.

1120
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 4: That's some teams like a Florida has been able to

1121
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 4: be good at football and basketball.

1122
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: Carolina should be able to be the same.

1123
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: Alabama recently has been able to be a really prominent

1124
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: team in football and basketball. The tar Hills have the

1125
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 4: opportunity to do that. We'll see if Bill Belichick can

1126
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 4: get them to that level.

1127
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: Okay, with all the good, there's always a little bit

1128
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: of bad. I guess you could say there's big little

1129
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: controversy right now. Was Matt Brown, the former coach who

1130
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: was praising Bill Belichicks on his setup, but he also

1131
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: says North Carolina has lowered academic standards to help him.

1132
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to Mac Brown. He was on

1133
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: serious x end the other day. Go ahead coach as.

1134
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 7: Far as North Carolina and Bill Belichick, now, he's arguably

1135
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 7: the best coach ever. They've committed money to it, they've

1136
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 7: helped them with academics, they've lowered those standards some, so

1137
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 7: there's absolutely no reason that they shouldn't be successful. And anymore,

1138
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 7: they've changed the roster. I think they've signed maybe sixty

1139
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 7: something new transfers. So you've got a chance to succeed

1140
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 7: at the highest level. And I expect them to do that,

1141
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 7: and I'm proud for him.

1142
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 1: I don't know. It came across to me a little

1143
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: bit Mac Brown, that it's a little bit of solid grapes.

1144
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: And I love coach Brown. He does sound sincere in

1145
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: the praise, and he hopes Belichick does well for the

1146
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: school because he coached it twice. He had two runs

1147
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: over there, but he made it pretty much clear that

1148
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: Belichi is getting a tremendous amount of resources that he

1149
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: didn't get.

1150
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens there.

1151
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1152
00:52:59,680 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 5: No.

1153
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 4: I was like, look, I understand, Coach Brown. You have

1154
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 4: to understand. And I'm gonna say this. I was in

1155
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 4: Coach Brown's second recruiting class ever at North Carolina.

1156
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: He's a dear friend.

1157
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: He's someone that outside of my own dad, he's one

1158
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 4: of the grown men that I rely on as a mentor,

1159
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 4: as a confidant in those things. So I'm gonna put

1160
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 4: that out for full disclosure. But the University of North

1161
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: Carolina did mac Brown wrong at the end of his tenure.

1162
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 4: They asked him to come back to stabilize a program

1163
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 4: that hadn't been good.

1164
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 2: At the end of Larry fer Door's run.

1165
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: He did a solid job, even though they didn't live

1166
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 4: up necessarily to some of the projections and the expectations.

1167
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: He got them to an Orange Bowl. They won teen games.

1168
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: He had a lot of prominent quarterbacks that were drafted

1169
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 4: in the NFL, a lot of positive things that he

1170
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: created there, and they kind of pushed.

1171
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: Him out without him being able to walk out.

1172
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: He should have been able to walk out on his

1173
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 4: own volition when he decided to leave North Carolina Hall

1174
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 4: of Fame coach. No one has been more successful at

1175
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 4: North Carolina than him, So when they move on from him,

1176
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 4: they give Bill Belichick a lot of the things that

1177
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: Coach Brown had been quietly campaigning for behind the scenes.

1178
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 4: To be a successful program, to be a program that

1179
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 4: competes at the highest level, you have to give them

1180
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 4: a chance academically lowering the standards a little bit, so

1181
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 4: maybe some of the high end athletes who have academic

1182
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 4: struggles and challenges can get in there to help the

1183
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: program while you have one of the best academic.

1184
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: Support systems in the country.

1185
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 4: Given more money, the nil pot that North Carolina had

1186
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 4: last year was a punitive I mean it was small.

1187
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 4: It was puny compared to what others had. Well, now

1188
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 4: they've up the anti where they can go and if

1189
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 4: they want to play in the Orange Race, participate and

1190
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 4: get prominent names and big time players in those things.

1191
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 2: He didn't have that luxury, and.

1192
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 4: So not only talking to him, but talking to others

1193
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 4: who were on that staff last year, they said, man,

1194
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: we didn't have enough money to compete with some of

1195
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 4: the big boys. As I was changing the game. Well,

1196
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: they've given Bill Belichick there, so coach Brown is right.

1197
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 4: They did change the way they're going about doing business

1198
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 4: for Bill Belichick, and so Belichick has a better chance

1199
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: of being successful.

1200
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: No doubt about that. Now, I wanted to do some

1201
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: research over the see what is Belichick getting that Brown

1202
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: didn't get number one. You know, I thought it was

1203
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: very unusual when Belichick took the job because everybody in

1204
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: North Carolina was saying that coach Brown was too old.

1205
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: Well, Belichick's the same age or maybe even older than

1206
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 3: coach Mac.

1207
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: He's older years older.

1208
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so Mac is like seventy one, I think. So

1209
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy that they did that. But that's

1210
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: another story. But North Carolina apparently has reportedly boosted the

1211
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: nil package from Mac Brown's four million dollars to Belichick's

1212
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: now getting twenty million dollars.

1213
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: That's going to make a difference because you know.

1214
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: As well as I do, when kids getting recruited today,

1215
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: they don't care what the schedule is, they don't care

1216
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: if the games are on TV. And now because most

1217
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: games are on TV anyway, every game, they won't know

1218
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: how much money they're going to get.

1219
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: What's my check going to look like? So twenty million

1220
00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: dollars is Belichick?

1221
00:55:59,520 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: Okay?

1222
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 3: And look Brown said that. You just heard him said

1223
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: that it's hard to.

1224
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: Recruit kids without money, and he didn't have the money

1225
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: that Bill Bellichers could to get number one, number two.

1226
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: He did say, they're lowering the academic standards, all right.

1227
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: And you remember about ten years ago they had those

1228
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: fake courses in North Carolina. Got caught for that.

1229
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: Oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Com you were there, I graduated.

1230
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 2: Calm down, Calm down. They weren't fake course.

1231
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: That was publicized.

1232
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they publicized that like they had corres finance courses

1233
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 4: and independent studies and they were trying to uh academic

1234
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 4: improprieties with mythical courses and that was never really the case.

1235
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 4: But yes, there was an academic scandal around the program,

1236
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 4: but that wasn't.

1237
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: It was like it was fake courses that guys were taking.

1238
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: You trying to tarnish my degree, Andy, you tarnished my degree.

1239
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: This is what I read. And that was it just

1240
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: football or was it basketball and football?

1241
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 4: It was everything? It was it was it was all.

1242
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 4: They tried to tie all the sports to some of

1243
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 4: those things. They had independent study program, they tried to

1244
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 4: put it on a rogue professor and looked at three

1245
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 4: sides to every story. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.

1246
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: So we're kind of see how that played out. But yeah,

1247
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 4: like there was there was a thing there. But look,

1248
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 4: it's a rigorous academic thing. It's one of the top

1249
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 4: public school institutions in the country. Like it always ranks

1250
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: amongst the top twenty five in terms of public schools.

1251
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 4: It's not easy to get in there and do the work,

1252
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: and so you have to if you can't academically cut it,

1253
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 4: you have to not only lower the standard, but you

1254
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 4: have to have support systems in place to help the students.

1255
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 4: Whore gonna have a tough time dealing with the academic lobe.

1256
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: Okay, so explain to me what these fake, the allegedly

1257
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: fake courses were, Like, well, kids didn't go to class

1258
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: because that was basically the story, and it was like

1259
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: a national story is a big time deal. I don't

1260
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: want to make a big deal about it. But you

1261
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: went there, you saw a firsthand, clear it up. I

1262
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: want to know what it was all about.

1263
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 4: No, I mean, look, it's much like the way that

1264
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 4: people go about going to college now. Anyone who goes

1265
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 4: to college now, like my son is a fourth year

1266
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 4: student at San Jase Stay and he can elect to

1267
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 4: take his load in person or it can take it

1268
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 4: virtually or online as there doing. And it's something that

1269
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 4: we became very familiar with during COVID. Well, North Carolina

1270
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 4: had a situation where they had courses that were available

1271
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: like that back in the day before we even got

1272
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 4: the COVID and everyone was doing virtual and online. They

1273
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 4: had correspondence courses, they had independent studies, they had various

1274
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 4: ways for you to knock down your academic load without

1275
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 4: having to go to class in person. And so there

1276
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 4: was some controversy about those things and whether the guys

1277
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 4: fully completed their work and all of that other stuff

1278
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 4: that you put a black look and put a smudge

1279
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: and put a smudge on the program. And look, I'm

1280
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 4: not saying that there was not any wrongdoing on the

1281
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 4: university's part or the program's part or whatever, but I

1282
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: don't want anyone to think that every player, every athlete

1283
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 4: that was running around North Carolina was benefited from inappropriate

1284
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: help from professors and teachers and the like.

1285
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: So basically you're saying North Carolina was ahead of the

1286
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: head of their time might have.

1287
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: Been ahead of the time.

1288
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 4: It might have been ahead of the time independent studies

1289
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: and correspondence courses and all the other things that we

1290
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 4: had the opportunity to participate in. Maybe some universities weren't

1291
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: doing that at the time.

1292
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: All right, I'm glad to hear that. Now, do you

1293
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: think that athletes and I hate to put you on

1294
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: the spot, but I will I will.

1295
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Speaker 2: Do you think.

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Speaker 1: Athletes got to break as far as admissions are concerned.

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Speaker 1: I think most schools might do that. For years, Lewhills

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00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: cried for years that No Jordain couldn't get top athletes

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Speaker 1: because the admission requirement to not Judain was so tough.

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Speaker 4: I think every university, even Notre Dame and those Stanford,

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00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 4: those high they may have a few special exemptions that

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Speaker 4: they can allocate for athletes or those who can contribute

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00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 4: greatly to the university outside of what they bring in

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00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 4: the class from. However, those things may not be the

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00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 4: number or may not be the same as some universities

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Speaker 4: go in terms of like dropping the standards to allow

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Speaker 4: certain people to come in. But Carolina has always kind

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Speaker 4: of held firm in terms of like how they wanted

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Speaker 4: to operate academically and athletically.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Some would say that, like Dick Crumb, who was the

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Speaker 4: coach there, said, look, they want to be Harvard.

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Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, but they wanted to be Oklahoma when

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Speaker 2: Barry Swiss was there on Saturdays. And it's hard to do.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to operate like that when you when you

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01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 4: have that, it can be done, but it's certainly hard

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Speaker 4: to do and hard to sustain at the level. So

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Speaker 4: if they did drop the standards a little bit for

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Speaker 4: some of the players that North Carolina wanted to bring in, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's gonna help them because they're gonna be able.

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Speaker 2: To bring in a different kind of athlete.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Then they've consistently been able to bring in all the time.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm glad you cleared that up, Brotherly, because I

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Speaker 1: had no idea. I thought that these kids were just

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Speaker 1: getting grades and they're doing those such courses. They were

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01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: just phantom courses. I'm glad that No. Really, I think

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Speaker 1: the way it was publicized, the way it was written,

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Speaker 1: it was like they were like course that were just

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Speaker 1: made up and they were given grades, But there really

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Speaker 1: was no course really so, I'm glad you cleared that up.

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Speaker 1: I really am you with you. There's on first hand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there. There's a lot of that.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying like, look, I'm not looking at

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01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 4: it through tarhell blue lenses. I'm just saying that some

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Speaker 4: of the stuff that was reported was overblown.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there were courses that the guys had to take. Now,

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01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,959
Speaker 4: maybe they may get us some assistance along the way,

1340
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm sure, but it certainly wasn't what it was made

1341
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Speaker 4: out to be.

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Speaker 1: Glad to hear that mister Tarheel himself clean it up.

1343
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy he did that. He's Bucket Brooks. Get

1344
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: him on X at Bucky Brooks at Andy Furman FSR.

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Speaker 1: You got a problem with that. It's eight seven seven

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Speaker 1: ninety nine on Fox. That translates to eight seven seven

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01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Big idea in

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01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: a in this hour, they're playing game of now on

1349
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:52,959
Speaker 1: number three, But but one commissioner is just playing full

1350
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: of it. That's next. All right, This league is being

1351
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: squeezed pretty good. That's right around the corner. Good morning,

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01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: got buddy, Happy Memorial Day weekend. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm

1353
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: Andy ferm And and we on Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

1354
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We're also alive from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1355
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: By the way, be sure to check out the Fox

1356
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: Sports Radio YouTube channel. There's a ton of great videos

1357
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: for many of our Fox Sports Radio shows. Just search

1358
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole

1359
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 1: bunch of video highlights from our shows. And be sure

1360
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: to subscribe so you always have instant access to our

1361
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. And we're gonna have

1362
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: yay nay in about ten or twelve minutes from now.

1363
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: But let's talk bucky about the Big Bed Bully. Now

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Speaker 1: you know who that is, don't you? That National Football League,

1365
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Speaker 1: the Big Bed Bully, all right? And the NFL's Christmas

1366
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: Day schedule for twenty twenty five was traditionally owned by

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Speaker 1: the NBA, and now the Bully is here to stay

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Speaker 1: as the NFL because the NFL get this, has time

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01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: slots for one o'clock eastern, four thirty eastern, eight point

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Speaker 1: fifteen East and they go head to head with the

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Speaker 1: NBA on Christmas Day this year. Now, the NFL has

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Speaker 1: hosted at least one Christmas game annually since twenty twenty.

1373
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: But the league expanded in twenty twenty four, and now

1374
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Speaker 1: they got Dallas at Washington, Detroit at Minnesota, and Denver

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01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: at Kansas City on a triple header. What do you

1376
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: think about that triple header?

1377
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: Love it? I love it?

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Speaker 4: You know, it is interesting how the NFL has kind

1379
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,959
Speaker 4: of changed the way they do business when it comes

1380
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Speaker 4: to holidays. There are certain holidays that were, hey, this

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01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 4: is basketball, this is the NBA's holiday. We'll remove our

1382
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 4: sales from that. Oh, this is a college football day,

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 4: we'll remove our sales from that. The NFL that's thrown

1384
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 4: carts to the win and they're like, nah, we're gonna

1385
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 4: play whenever we want to play.

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: There's so much money in it.

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01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 4: They've seen the level of success monetarily that they can

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01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: gain by playing some of these games on these high

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01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 4: holidays that you have entities that.

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Speaker 2: Want to do it.

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01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 4: Netflix, Amazon, whatever it is streaming service that you want,

1392
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 4: They're willing to jump in and pay a lot of money.

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01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 4: And for owners and players, that is very beneficial. And

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01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 4: as they talk about not necessarily the CBA, but the

1395
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 4: pie expanding, where the bigger the pie, the more money

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Speaker 4: goes to the players.

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Speaker 2: That's why everyone is on board with that plays.

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Speaker 1: And again, once iileena on you a little bit because

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Speaker 1: you played the game and you're involved with an NFL

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Speaker 1: team right now. Are the players upset that they can't

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01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: be with family on those holidays?

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01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I'm sure there are some that

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 4: are upset when it comes to it, But everybody has

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01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 4: a job, and so sometimes your job doesn't permit you

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01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 4: to be able to spend all of the holidays that

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01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 4: you may desire with your loved ones.

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Speaker 2: However, the league is a privilege.

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01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 4: It's a privileged opportunity to participate and play and work

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01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 4: for teams and those So if you have an opportunity

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01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 4: to be in the league, that's one of the.

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Speaker 2: Things that you're signing up for.

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Speaker 4: You may be inconvenienced by having to play on some holidays.

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Speaker 4: It's a special time and it's a time for family,

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 4: but you may be away part of the day if

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Speaker 4: it's a home game, the entire day if it's an

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01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 4: away game. But guess what, if you play on those days,

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01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 4: you tend to have a long weekend where you can

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01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 4: make up for it. So you may not see the

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01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 4: kids open up their gifts on Christmas morning, but you

1420
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 4: may have a few extra days to hang with them

1421
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Speaker 4: as they're playing with the tours and doing all those

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Speaker 4: other things as family comes into town.

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Speaker 1: Well, it works out perfectly at least this year, because

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Speaker 1: Christmas falls on a Thursday, and the NFL, at least

1425
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: on Amazon played on Thursdays anyway, so that triple head

1426
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Speaker 1: is on a Thursday, so it's not a big whoop, right,

1427
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: and the following up playing on Friday, so they've had

1428
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: played some Friday games, so it's working out pretty good

1429
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, and then it moves to

1430
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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday, which they play on those days anyway.

1431
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Speaker 1: So for the next three four years, the NFL is

1432
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Speaker 1: in pretty good shape. When it moves Monday and Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Was yeah, excellent shape, And how can you complain about it.

1434
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 4: It's an excellent shape. It's the type of stuff that

1435
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 4: you want to you want to do. You want to

1436
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 4: have the opportunity to play in those games, to be

1437
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 4: in those showcase games as a player, but also as

1438
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 4: a team. It's a big deal to be center stage

1439
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 4: on a holiday because everyone is gathered around the TV

1440
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 4: watching it, and it's gonna draw a big number.

1441
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Speaker 2: Look, man, you love it.

1442
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 4: Just like the international games, I continue to grow and

1443
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: expand everybody wants.

1444
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: To be a part of the big business of the league.

1445
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: And I love because Jason Kelsey had to chime in

1446
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: on this. He says, we're taking over Thanksgiving, We're taking

1447
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: over Christmas. NBA, you're expletive. You're never getting that back.

1448
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way he's right. I mean, they're

1449
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: never going to get it back. And the funny thing

1450
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: is I love to see a what games the NBA

1451
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: is going to put on those days and be what

1452
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: the ratings might be. There'll be some people, but here's

1453
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: the difference. The difference is gonna be quite simple. I

1454
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: hope Adam Silver figures this out. The National Football League

1455
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: is national, maybe it's even international. People in non NFL

1456
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: cities love to watch the NFL. If you live in

1457
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: a non NBA city, you're not gonna watch the NBA.

1458
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. I live in a non

1459
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: NBA city, all right. I watched the news every night

1460
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: on TV and watch the sports. They never ever give

1461
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: NBA scores. They may have an NBA tape clip. If

1462
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: someone gets punch in the face, if something big happens. Really,

1463
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: that's when they put the NBA on TV. Other than that,

1464
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: you can't get an NBA score, all right. You live

1465
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: in the you live in a non NFL city, You're

1466
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: gonna get an NFL day and night all the time.

1467
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. As you know, there's

1468
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: the popularity and there's reasons. We know why the gambling aspect,

1469
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: the fantasy football. Ever, it may be just the game itself.

1470
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: You know, every game means something because they only play

1471
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,919
Speaker 1: seventeen games, eighty two games plays all those playoff games.

1472
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Speaker 1: It second never ending years. So we'll see. But the

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01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: commissioner had to chime in. Adam Silver with all those wisdom.

1474
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: He says he wasn't bothered by the NFL's Christmas plans,

1475
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: And I said, come into the segment. He's full of

1476
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: it is he's got to be bothered. Come on, he's

1477
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: on recording him right now. He said, there's nothing wrong

1478
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 1: with competition. He said this the other day. We don't

1479
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: own Christmas, even though we've been playing on Christmas Day

1480
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: for seventy five years in our league. So there's this

1481
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: huge tradition of playing on Christmas Day. But I think

1482
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: competition keeps you on your toes. The NFL seas an

1483
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: opportunity on Christmas. I accept that, but you know, to

1484
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: your question, I think we'll continue to look at our schedule.

1485
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: You are full of it because you got to be concerned.

1486
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: You gotta do something about it. Maybe you should play

1487
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve. Maybe it should beat him to the punch.

1488
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do. I don't know

1489
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: what that can do. But you used to own Christmas.

1490
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 1: You don't on Christmas anymore. It's the National Football League.

1491
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is the National Football League. They don't own

1492
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 4: it anymore. It has created competition, for sure. And what

1493
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 4: we've seen, the NFL is king. When you go back

1494
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 4: and you look at the ratings, doesn't matter what it

1495
01:08:55,720 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 4: is like. When you compare the draft to NBA regular

1496
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 4: season games or playoff games, the draft outrace and then

1497
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 4: the draft is not.

1498
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: A live event. Mean, it's not a game.

1499
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 4: I mean so when you put games against games, there

1500
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 4: are more people that are just football fans. In our country.

1501
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 4: Football is king. International Football League does not mind flexing

1502
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 4: its muscles when it comes to look our sport is popular.

1503
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 4: We're unapologetic about it. We're going to make sure that

1504
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 4: we give our people what they want. They want more ball,

1505
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 4: we gonna give them more ball. And we'll continue to

1506
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 4: see the NFL grow and expand and push the boundaries

1507
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 4: when it comes to saturation. But right now, we don't

1508
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 4: see people pushing back fans or continue to consume it.

1509
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 4: So as long as they're eating it up, then keep

1510
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 4: putting it out there.

1511
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the statistic right now. The NBA's first Christmas

1512
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: Day game was played. This is unbelievable in nineteen forty seven,

1513
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: and it's continued since until the unofficial tip off to

1514
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: every season. Right, that's when basketball fans really get into

1515
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: the action on Christmas Day. Really, a lot of people

1516
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: think the NBA starts on Christmas Day, but the NFL

1517
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: knocked the door down in twenty sixteen and has dominated

1518
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: viewership on that day ever since. All Right, So, if

1519
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: I'm Adam Silver, if I'm the NBA, you just can't

1520
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: say I welcome the competition. There's nothing wrong. Yeah, there

1521
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: is something roman competition because your ratings are going to sink.

1522
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: People are moving over to the National Football League and

1523
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: it's a perfect time. As you say, family gets together

1524
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: they're at the dinner table, opening up gifts, whatever they're doing.

1525
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: Turn the TV on, they're watching football. You gotta do something.

1526
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 3: You got The.

1527
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: League right now has peaked, and I think that now

1528
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: they're on the other side of the slope the NBA,

1529
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: and partially because of the game itself. I think the

1530
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: game itself is kind of deteriorated to some extent because

1531
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: we talked about it. It's all about three point goals,

1532
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: and people just can't stand I go to the park,

1533
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: Go go to the park, watch guys go down the

1534
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: court and heave up at three. It's the same thing

1535
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: as the NBA, it really is. So there's something different

1536
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: and something has to be fixed. I don't know how

1537
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: they do it. Maybe you have an idea. I don't.

1538
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm not here to help the NBA, but if I

1539
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: had an idea, I would mention it. I don't know

1540
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: what else they could do except maybe beat them to

1541
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: the punch and play on Christmas Eve. I don't know.

1542
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: Most people go to church on Christmas Eve, don't they.

1543
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what they could do.

1544
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: Well.

1545
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 4: They can't do much about Christmas just because of the

1546
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 4: popularity of the sport, but what they can do is

1547
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 4: try and find different pockets where they can create it.

1548
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 4: One of the reasons why the Christmas Day.

1549
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: Deal is such a big.

1550
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 4: It's such a big talking point, is because that was

1551
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 4: kind of like the official kickoff to the NBA season

1552
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 4: when it came to viewership. It's the end of the

1553
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 4: college football year for the most part, boldseason is almost

1554
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 4: winding down around Christmas time, and so guys are beginning

1555
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 4: to turn their eyes towards basketball to pay attention. This

1556
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 4: Christmas showcase was an opportunity for them to be like,

1557
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 4: all right, here's the NBA, this is what you want

1558
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 4: to look for. We're gonna put four prominent games on

1559
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 4: check us out. Well, when the NFL jumps in, it

1560
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 4: splits that base a little bit because guys have to

1561
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 4: make a decision do I want to watch football, I

1562
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 4: want to watch basketball? Where basketball is not started, I'll

1563
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 4: catcher with basketball later on football. These games matter because

1564
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 4: we're right in the thick of the playoff race, so

1565
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 4: the games that they put on. Remember, the NFL also

1566
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 4: backloads the divisional schedule, so the games that matter, the

1567
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 4: rivalry games, take place in the month of December.

1568
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: That is also a big part of it.

1569
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 4: And so when you have playoff implications and all of that,

1570
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 4: the league is going to look it's going to dominate

1571
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 4: that because people are more interested in that, you fantasy football,

1572
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 4: all that other stuff, where basketball can't compete with those things.

1573
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: I will tell you this much. You know, the NHL

1574
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: has been very quiet, but in their own quiet way,

1575
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: they have done things to kind of influence the public

1576
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: and change things. For example, that outdoor game that they

1577
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: used to play on New Year's Day, and they have

1578
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: a couple of outdoor games right now which really have

1579
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: been tremendous. I mean if you're a hockey fan, and

1580
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: they really I think they've opened it up to a

1581
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: lot more hockey fans. They played a game at the

1582
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State University Stadium this past year. They had like

1583
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: sixty seventy thousand people there. So the outdoor game is okay.

1584
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: I don't think basketball could play outdoors at least at

1585
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: that time of year and especially the possibility of snow.

1586
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: But maybe they can if they have Christmas Day in

1587
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: a one, if they have Christmas Day in Miami, they

1588
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: could play outdoors. That's not a bad idea, right, you know.

1589
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 1: The NBA can go Christmas Day all outdoors, celebrate Christmas

1590
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: outdoors with the NBA, have a game in La, have

1591
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: a game in Arizona, and have a game in Miami

1592
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: and those three markets. I think they could play outdoors

1593
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: on that day.

1594
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 2: What do you think they can't play they did?

1595
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 4: Look, I mean, I think one, you have to be

1596
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 4: bold and fearless and unafraid of making mistakes when it

1597
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 4: comes to what you're doing.

1598
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: D NHL has shown growth.

1599
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 4: Even the thing they did this year, what was the

1600
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 4: defort Nations that drew a lot ofge kind of thing. Yeah,

1601
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 4: you gotta be front from you gotta be forward thinking.

1602
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 4: You cannot be afraid to do things differently to appeal

1603
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 4: to a fan base that is looking for something to.

1604
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: Energize them to get going. The NHL has done that.

1605
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,440
Speaker 4: I would say that when you look at the playoffs

1606
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 4: this year, there's been more eyeballs on the NHL playoffs

1607
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 4: this year than in previous years U and some of

1608
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 4: that was jump started by the four Nations thing. And

1609
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 4: as you talk about playing outside and the potential backdrop,

1610
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 4: there's something about the visual effect of playing outside as

1611
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 4: opposed to playing in an arena. It is a completely

1612
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 4: different game and it's one that the hardcore fans to enjoy.

1613
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: There you go.

1614
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: He's Bucket Brooks, always with something wise to say, I

1615
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: mean defirming sometimes I don't. We are Fox Sports Sunday

1616
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and of course there's only two

1617
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: ways to go, only two ways, and they are yay

1618
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: or nay. And then next yay or nay. Coming right up.

1619
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio on the

1620
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman who

1621
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: alive from the Fox Sports Radio studios about eleven minutes

1622
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: before the top of the hour, and Patty, it's all

1623
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: yours buddy.

1624
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 6: Okay, let's rack those brains, gentlemen. These stories need an.

1625
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 8: Ass I think we need a ruling on this.

1626
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 5: It's yay or nay, all right, guys, Well it's time

1627
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 5: for yay or nay.

1628
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 8: So let's play Andy and Bucky.

1629
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 5: So with that, first we got with the NFL players

1630
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 5: now officially allowed to compete in flag football at the

1631
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 5: twenty twenty eight Summer Olympics, which is in here in LA.

1632
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 8: What are your thoughts. Is this a good thing for

1633
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 8: the league for the players?

1634
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 5: Yeay?

1635
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 1: Or nay, Andy, Well, I think it's good for the league,

1636
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: so I say yeah, because obviously more people will see it,

1637
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: global exposure, things like that. For the players, I worry

1638
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: if they get hurt.

1639
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 7: You know.

1640
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna be wearring helmets, but you

1641
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: know those quick cuts there running, I mean, they'll be

1642
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: gassed out by the time they get the camp because

1643
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be in late July for the Olympics.

1644
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of torn on this. But if you

1645
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: have to ask me one, i'd say, nay, nay, we

1646
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: don't need it. We don't need it. Forget it. Let

1647
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 1: him play play hard during the season.

1648
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 2: Oh looky, I'm with this. I think this is a ya.

1649
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: I like it. I like having NFL players.

1650
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 4: Then I think it has an opportunity to do what

1651
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 4: the Dream Team did for the game. And even though

1652
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 4: you won't see international flag players make their win into

1653
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 4: the league, I've just seen the impact that the Dream

1654
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 4: Team has eventually had on the NBA with the international flavor.

1655
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 2: That is dominating the NBA currently.

1656
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 4: That's all started from the Dream Team going overseas and

1657
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 4: really expanded the game.

1658
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 8: I love it.

1659
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 5: I love it a lot. Well, guys, let's stick with football.

1660
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 5: Maybe not NFL, but let's go to college. So the

1661
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 5: College Football Playoffs is making a big format change for

1662
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 5: its in its second season. They have approved a new

1663
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 5: seating structure for the twelve team bracket. In twenty twenty five,

1664
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 5: the College Football Playoff twelve teams will be seen according

1665
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 5: to their final college football rankings, regardless of conference championships.

1666
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 5: Under the new model, the four highest ranked teams will

1667
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:11,799
Speaker 5: earn first round bys.

1668
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 8: Yay or nay. Bucky Brooks nay.

1669
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't like this.

1670
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 4: I don't like it because what it does it devalues

1671
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 4: the the significance of winning the conference championship. If you

1672
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 4: don't win the conference championship, you shouldn't get any extra benefits.

1673
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 4: If you're the third team in SEC but you ranked fourth,

1674
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 4: you shouldn't get a bye.

1675
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 2: You need to win your conference championship. So I don't

1676
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: like it.

1677
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 4: Everyone that cried and win last year, they've ruined it.

1678
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 4: They've ruined the format. Like this is bad, it's terrible.

1679
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: I hate to agree with Bucky Brooks, I really do,

1680
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: because it looks like I'm sucking up. But it's a name.

1681
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: Because the conference championship has to mean something. The regular

1682
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: season doesn't mean anything. It's almost like the NBA and

1683
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: the Major League Baseball regular season play means nothing nothing.

1684
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: You win a conference championship, it means and over here

1685
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: it does not. So it's a big fat nay.

1686
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you something that means something here, Andy, So,

1687
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 5: TV is such a large recruiting tool for college athletes, right,

1688
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 5: so should there be a limit for how many times

1689
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 5: a college program could be shown on TV during a

1690
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 5: single season?

1691
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 8: Yay or nay?

1692
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 3: Andy, Well, I would say yay, And I'll tell you why.

1693
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of a foolish thing right now, because I

1694
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: think kids at one point in time were looking at

1695
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: college coaches and saying, I'll go to your school how

1696
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: many times you're on TV. I think every school is

1697
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: on TV many times, but there are some schools that

1698
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: really get the shaft, and I'd like to see some

1699
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: schools on TV more than others. So maybe there should

1700
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: be some sort of a limit. But right now, with

1701
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: conferences and conference and contracts and the money being paid out,

1702
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: I don't see it happening, but I'd love to see

1703
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: it happen.

1704
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 2: No, I don't don't. Yeah, I don't like this.

1705
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 4: I think you should televise everything, put everything out there

1706
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 4: because families are watching, and so with all the different

1707
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 4: vehicles to being able to consume game streaming and whatever,

1708
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 4: you can't put a cap on it.

1709
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 8: Really, Nope, that's the yay or NAIs.

1710
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: Guys, you do have another one? You want to give

1711
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: us one? Make one up?

1712
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 8: You know what, I'll make one up for us right now?

1713
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 5: All right? So with we know the NBA is coming

1714
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 5: down to the finals close, we got the final four teams.

1715
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 5: There is a chance we may get the Pacers versus Thunder,

1716
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 5: two smaller market teams, and apparently everybody is coming to

1717
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 5: gripes on that.

1718
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 8: Yay or nay? Is this good for the league? Yay

1719
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 8: or nay? Andy Furman, you go on this one.

1720
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't think it's good for the league at all.

1721
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: I think TV ratings are hurting anyway. But I think,

1722
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: do you got this market like Oklahoma City coming in

1723
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 1: there in Indianapolis, It doesn't help a thing. You got

1724
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: to get New York, I got La Chicago, Atlanta. You

1725
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: got to get those markets India to help to boost

1726
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: the NBA. It's not happening right now.

1727
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 4: Well, if we just care about big and we only

1728
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 4: should put NBA teams in big Marcus, it should be

1729
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 4: New York, A, B, and.

1730
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: C as opposed to giving these other things. So no,

1731
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

1732
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 4: I mean I do like Indiana and Oklahoma City potentially

1733
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 4: being in the finals, because that's the whole point. Everyone

1734
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 4: should have a chance to win in the league. Otherwise,

1735
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 4: what are we doing?

1736
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. We'll continue that. We're gonna

1737
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: tell you why he's still on the sidelines. That's coming

1738
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: up where Fox Sports Sunday next. All right, are you

1739
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: tired of his talk yet? We'll get to that. Hey,

1740
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: just about a minute. Happy Memorial Day weekend. This is

1741
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucket Brooks.

1742
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Ferman and went broadcasting live from the Fox

1743
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: Sports Radio studios. Here he is Bucket Brooks. How you doing, Buck?

1744
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: I tell you what, I'm really glad you cleared up

1745
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: that situation via North Carolina. I never knew that serious.

1746
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I mean, it was a kind of

1747
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:58,839
Speaker 1: a nasty blurb on that program and people have different

1748
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: thoughts about it until you clear up. So I'm really

1749
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: good And if people miss that they could get it

1750
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: on a podcast which will be posted right after our

1751
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: show today. Now, there's something you mentioned in a Yeah

1752
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: and ny Less segment about this NBA thing, this Indianapolis

1753
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City small markets. You said, well, you look unhappy

1754
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: that Indianapolis may be facing Oklahoma City in the finals.

1755
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 1: And I'm certainly happy that everybody's got a shot to

1756
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: do that. Okay, Cleveland got bounced out, Boston got bounced out,

1757
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: everything like that. But I think when you talk about

1758
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: the executives that run the NBA and TV executives in particular,

1759
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: they're not going to be too happy that markets like

1760
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: Indianapolis and Oklahoma City are going to be televising the

1761
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: finals of the NBA. I really believe they'd rather have

1762
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: larger markets, larger markets, more eyeballs, all right, that's what

1763
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: they want.

1764
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you in terms of what they want.

1765
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 4: They certainly want the big market. Like when you think

1766
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 4: about visually what it looks like the game being played

1767
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 4: in New York, right, Like, if you could have your druthers,

1768
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 4: you would like to have the New York Knicks face

1769
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 4: and whoever comes out of the West, because you want

1770
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 4: to have the visual atmosphere of watching the finals in

1771
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 4: the garden. The garden is an epic play, It's an

1772
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 4: iconic place. I understand one of that. You would like

1773
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 4: to tap into the New York market because it is

1774
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 4: look maybe the top market when it comes to TV.

1775
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 4: So the ratings would be a bonanza in that regard.

1776
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 4: But the rest of the teams that are in it, Minnesota,

1777
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City and Indianapolis, Indiana whatever, like, those are small

1778
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 4: market teams and you're not going to get the big

1779
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 4: ratings bump, but you can get some star power in

1780
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 4: any of When you bring those teams in aunt Mannon

1781
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 4: and Minnesota, you get Shape Sga, the MVP. He comes

1782
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 4: if Oklahoma City's there. And then you got the new villain,

1783
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 4: Tyrese Halliburton, who is the most overrated player in the

1784
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 4: NBA per the players around the league. But he has

1785
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 4: been Yeah, and you get his dad too, even though

1786
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 4: his dad has been banned, his dad shows up. But yeah,

1787
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 4: like so you get some of those things. I think

1788
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 4: it's I don't know if the market thing really matters anymore,

1789
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 4: the way the game's consumed. I told you with streaming

1790
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 4: and all that. I think people that like basketball, they're

1791
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 4: going to tune in, and I know the linear TV

1792
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 4: numbers will be down because it's not a big market.

1793
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 4: But I mean, I understand that it's a business. But

1794
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 4: when you made the league the way that you made it,

1795
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 4: with the draft and the lottery and all these things,

1796
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 4: competitive balance. You can't argue about having competitive balance. When

1797
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 4: it shows up, that's what you wanted. You want a

1798
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 4: competitive balance, and there's shown up, and some of the

1799
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 4: big market teams are on the outside looking in.

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01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: You're exactly right. Okay, See, I'm Minnesota hosting Oklahoma City tomorrow.

1801
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: I Minnesota coming off a big win last night, so

1802
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: they're down two games to one, and today or tonight,

1803
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: actually in Indianapolis, the Knicks are down two to the

1804
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. They played tonight, So we'll see what happens

1805
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: over there. But we will be remiss if we didn't

1806
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: touch on the WNBA. We have to mention the WNBA.

1807
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: And I was shocked. I'm sitting around the TVs today.

1808
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: I just flicked on CBS CBS Network at one o'clock Eastern,

1809
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 1: the Liberty was playing The Fever. I said, oh my goodness, CBS,

1810
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Really, and it was a heck

1811
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: of a game. It was ninety eighty eight on kind

1812
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: of a non call at the end, and the fever

1813
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: and Caitlin Clark in particular were very aggravated in that

1814
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: it looked like she got hit at the end, at

1815
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 1: the end of the ball game.

1816
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 3: To lose ninety eighty eight, you hate to see a game.

1817
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: And I'd rather have a game lose by or win

1818
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 1: by double digits than lose by two points on a

1819
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: potential bad officiating call. That's what I'm saying.

1820
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how bad the call was.

1821
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 4: She a little contacts. She got to be able to

1822
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 4: play through that. The league is changing where they're not

1823
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 4: calling all these touch fouls. Before everyone was getting touch

1824
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 4: foul living at the free throw line. Sometimes you got

1825
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 4: to reward the aggressiveness and you got to be able

1826
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 4: to play through that. If we were playing at the park,

1827
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 4: she wouldn't get that file at the park. We're not

1828
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: giving her that file and pickup if it was a

1829
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 4: game point. She's not getting that foul to decide game.

1830
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 4: She's got to play through it and make the bucket

1831
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 4: like that's just what it is.

1832
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: I have a feeling about that situation. Ever since they

1833
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: added in the NBA at least a third official. I

1834
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: think sometimes people are the officiating at least they worry

1835
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: about they may not make that call because it's not

1836
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: their call, and sometimes they hold the whistle and they

1837
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: swallow the whistle. Do you ever feel that. I mean,

1838
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: when they had two officials, there was maybe less situations

1839
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: of arguing a final call or a big close call

1840
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: because they had two and they knew what territory they're

1841
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: going to cover, and maybe the game wasn't this physical.

1842
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought it was pretty physical back

1843
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: in the day when they have big centers like Chamberlain

1844
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: and Nate Thurman and Willis Street, so it was and

1845
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: Walt Bellamy. They had pretty big physical guys back then.

1846
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: But I think the third official creates a bit of

1847
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: a problem as to what territory he may have because

1848
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: I watched that replay yesterday with Caitlin Clark, and there

1849
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: was an official who should have made the call or

1850
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 1: would have made the call, and didn't and looked like

1851
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: they may have been waiting for the other official to

1852
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: make that call. You do you follow me on that?

1853
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 4: On my off base, Well, what I'm hearing is you

1854
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 4: say there's too many eyeballs on it, like you have

1855
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 4: too many, too many officials on the on the court,

1856
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 4: too many guys that can see things and weigh in

1857
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 4: and give opinions and all that, and it's messing up

1858
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 4: the game. Whereas when they didn't have as many people

1859
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 4: on the court, you didn't have as many calls, and

1860
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 4: it just seemed to flow better as opposed to the

1861
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 4: constant stopping and starting. The other part of that has

1862
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 4: been the league, in an effort to improve the scoring,

1863
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 4: they originally took away the hand checking and those things,

1864
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 4: so guys, they talked about freedom of movement, one of the

1865
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 4: guys to be able to move around without being restricted

1866
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 4: by the physical contact. Well as some defensive teams stepped

1867
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 4: up their ability to counter those tactics with forces with

1868
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 4: aggression and the league relenting. Yeah, we've seen seen the

1869
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 4: game change. But here's the thing. The scoring gets still up.

1870
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 4: You know, they're still putting big numbers up. I looked

1871
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 4: last night minnesotansidered franchise record for total point sport in

1872
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 4: a playoff game, Like that's what they did. We saw

1873
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 4: Indiana go up and down the court, the first game

1874
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 4: of the series with the Knicks where they look one

1875
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 4: pint thirty Mark, like, that's way back to how it

1876
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 4: used to be when Doug Moore and the Nuggets were

1877
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 4: running up and down the court, you know, wearing people out.

1878
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 4: So I think the product on the court is solid.

1879
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 4: I think what we're complaining about though, stylistically, too many

1880
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 4: teams are trying to play a game that doesn't match

1881
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 4: their personnel, trying to shoot threes when you don't have

1882
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 4: deadly three point shooters. And until the coaches and front

1883
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 4: office is recognized, man, every team is built differently. You

1884
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 4: got to build it differently to win with what you have,

1885
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 4: you won't get the consistency and the product that we're

1886
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 4: used to seeing.

1887
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: That's a great point I tell you. I'll leave you

1888
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 1: to this. By the officiating, I'd like to see more

1889
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: calls on three seconds and palming. I mean I never

1890
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: believed that a guy could dribble a ball up to

1891
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: his umpit and not be called for palming. I mean

1892
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. I mean, you gotta

1893
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: go guys playing three on three or going to the

1894
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: park and playing theyn't call palming in the park. But

1895
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: they won't call it in the NBA. I never see

1896
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: the turnovers that they have now in basketball. I don't

1897
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: understand why that came to pass. I don't know why

1898
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: they allow that. Guys are dribbling and have so much

1899
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: control of the basketball, they're turning the ball over. They

1900
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: never call a palm or a turnover. I just I

1901
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: don't get it. And the three seconds. Some of these

1902
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: guys live in the pivot, So those are the calls.

1903
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a little more. That's all I'm saying.

1904
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're more upset about that than I am. That's

1905
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: just kind of a part of it, like.

1906
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 4: The palm, the palming, the fact that you even say palm.

1907
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm watching a seventies NBA basketball game and.

1908
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: Brian is talking about they're palming the ball.

1909
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 4: That's kind of a part of those guys, like the

1910
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 4: creativity and their stuff.

1911
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.

1912
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 4: I think the traveling would be the bigger thing, because

1913
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 4: trying to separate between oh, that's a euro step and

1914
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 4: that's a travel that's harder now than it's ever been.

1915
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're exactly right. I'll tell you what.

1916
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: It's hard right now to figure out what team Aaron

1917
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 1: Rodgers is going to play for.

1918
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 3: I'm sick of talking about it, I really am.

1919
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: But you got to talk about hi, because something's going

1920
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: to get really because it's been more than two months

1921
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: since the start of the free agency situation in the

1922
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: NFL and Aaron Rodgers is still looking for a job.

1923
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 1: He's on the market. Guy won the MVP four times.

1924
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: He took a visit the Pittsburgh that was back in March,

1925
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: and his things stand right now, it looks like he

1926
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: may be going to play for the Steelers. I don't know,

1927
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,799
Speaker 1: but he's not talking about it. And he did say

1928
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 1: that the reason why he's not talking about it because

1929
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: he's got some personal problems because some friends, close friends,

1930
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: have cancer. That's what he said. And I hear him,

1931
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 1: and that's okay. I get it. And I think that

1932
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: he realizes that he's going to be gobbled up somewhere, somehow,

1933
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: someone's going to take him. And I think it's going

1934
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: to be Pittsburgh. What do you think?

1935
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: I mean? I think it is leaning that way.

1936
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 4: They don't really have a choice to kind of put

1937
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 4: all their eggs in the air, just basket when it

1938
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 4: comes to that.

1939
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 2: You know, the thing about it. At some point he

1940
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 2: has to show up.

1941
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 4: If he does to show up soon, they can't put

1942
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 4: together an effective product now. I mean, I'm seeing like

1943
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 4: it's almost as if they have bypassed ouption because now

1944
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 4: you're hitting into OTA's which are your official practices organized

1945
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 4: team activities, but they're really practices. You only get ten

1946
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 4: of those. Well, if he misses all that, like, what

1947
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 4: how are they going to make it up? He's now

1948
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 4: gonna ask guys to come in off of it their

1949
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 4: vacation to do it. If they do it, it speaks

1950
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 4: to his selfishness. This is a decision that should have

1951
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 4: been wrapped up months ago. And look, man, I'm mad

1952
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 4: at the Steelers for jumping into those waters and kind

1953
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 4: of messing up what was already a pretty good thing.

1954
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 4: It just means we'll see what he elects to do.

1955
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 4: To me, it's just kind of crazy that he hasn't

1956
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 4: made up his mind yet.

1957
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: Okay, it looks like what the mandatory mini can kicks

1958
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: you on June tenth. I gotta believe he's probably gonna

1959
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,719
Speaker 1: sign with the Steelers. I think he's gonna sign before

1960
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: June tenth. And the guy who wrote his biography, Ian

1961
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: O'Connor said, it looks like it's gonna be the Steels

1962
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: if he says that he knows he's been involved with

1963
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. Now, I did some stupid research, but

1964
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: it maybe it makes sense. I think the NFL knows.

1965
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I think the NFL knows he's gonna sign with the Steelers.

1966
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: And why do I say that. I look at the

1967
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 1: NFL schedule. On September the seventh, the Steelers play at

1968
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 1: the Jets. You don't think that's a made for TV game.

1969
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: The guy who used to play for the Jets and

1970
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 1: got hurt on that first game now in a Steelers' uniform.

1971
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: Believe me, the NFL did some behind the scenes talking

1972
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers or somebody or maybe someone with the

1973
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 1: Steelers saying what's the deal here, and they say, well,

1974
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna sign him. And they got to sign them.

1975
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 1: Why they got Will Howard and Mason Rudolph. They're not

1976
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 1: gonna go to war with those guys. They can't. Although

1977
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: I love Mason Rudolph, but I don't think it's going

1978
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: to happen. So Steelers are playing at the Jets on

1979
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 1: September seventh. Aaron Rodgers will be in the Steelers uniform?

1980
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: Is that good logic on my part? What do you think?

1981
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 2: I mean, it has to be something.

1982
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 4: They have to have some kind of wink nod agreement

1983
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 4: in place, because I can't imagine. I can't imagine what

1984
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 4: the Stellers are waiting on otherwise. So Aaron Rodgers says,

1985
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 4: in an agreement in place, they gonna try and figure

1986
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 4: it out whatever they need to figure it out.

1987
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 2: But they need to get him in the camp.

1988
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 4: They need to get him going so he can develop

1989
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 4: the chemistry with the playmakers and wide out so the

1990
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,759
Speaker 4: team can get to know him. Quarterback is the ultimate

1991
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 4: leadership position, but you can't lead if the players around

1992
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 4: you don't trust you. And the only way you earn

1993
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 4: that trust is about being diligent every day so the

1994
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 4: people can see you work and know that you pour

1995
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 4: in the same, if not more than they have to

1996
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 4: the game when it comes to the preparation. That makes

1997
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 4: the team more inclined to believe you.

1998
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 1: Now, what about the players I mean in general? I

1999
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 1: mean they talk about the term we went through this

2000
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 1: last week pretty good about the term distraction. Would this

2001
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: be a distraction? I don't believe it would be because

2002
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 1: they're not playing. Can you with a distraction when the

2003
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,759
Speaker 1: team is not playing games, an off season distraction?

2004
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Is there is there such a thing?

2005
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2006
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 4: They yeah, no, no, no, no, there's definitely such a thing

2007
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 4: as an off feel distraction. Like anything that takes away

2008
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 4: your purpose and your intent on getting better individually as

2009
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 4: a player and as a team. That's a distraction, and

2010
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 4: you're trying to eliminate those things so you can lock

2011
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 4: in and focus. The best teams have minimal distraction because

2012
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,919
Speaker 4: it enables them to focus for longer than their opponent.

2013
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 4: And I don't want a lot of chaos and a

2014
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 4: circus atmosphere around me or the team. And that's one

2015
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 4: of the things that you have to be mindful of

2016
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 4: when you sign prominent free agents.

2017
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:41,759
Speaker 2: In those things.

2018
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:45,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta believe there's a contingent of Pittsburgh Steelers

2019
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 1: right now hoping that they sign him because they know

2020
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: what he brings to the table. Even though he's a

2021
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 1: bit of a weirdo, he's going to bring the experience

2022
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 1: that he has as a winner, as opposed to a

2023
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: rookie like Will Howard or a guy orn't even like

2024
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, who wasn't Pittsburgh. They let him go and

2025
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 1: now he's back on Pittsburgh again.

2026
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll be careful on what he brings because

2027
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 4: the last couple of years when we watched him with

2028
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 4: the Jets, he hasn't played very well. It's a long

2029
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 4: time ago since that last MVP, you know, and we

2030
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 4: can talk about what he was and what he's been

2031
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 4: at his prime, but there's no guarantee that he's going

2032
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 4: back to his prime, and he doesn't have the same

2033
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 4: belief from others.

2034
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 2: In his talents that he once had.

2035
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 4: When you have others that believe in you and believe

2036
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 4: that you can take your game up a notch, that

2037
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:35,719
Speaker 4: that changed the way they call the game.

2038
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if.

2039
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 4: They truly believed that he still has the magic dust

2040
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 4: on the fastball to elevate their offense. He can give

2041
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 4: them a force and maybe he is an upgrade over Russell.

2042
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 4: But if he is an upgrade, just marginally, not significantly,

2043
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 4: this's be interesting to see where he plays how it

2044
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 4: plays out. But this is something that goes completely against

2045
01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 4: how the stealers typically operate as a team.

2046
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny, really because the only thing that has

2047
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 1: been written about Aaron Rodgers is willy or won'ty. Except

2048
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I found an article on CBS Sports saying that it's

2049
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: time for the Steelers to pull the plug on Aaron

2050
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 1: Rodgers and this experiment. They suggest that the quarterback's current

2051
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: value on the field, if there is inconsistent twenty twenty

2052
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: four season, is not worth the continued weight and the

2053
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: rollercoaster timeline he has provided. That's the first time and

2054
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: only time I've seen anybody anywhere in any media outlet saying, Hey, Pittsburgh,

2055
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: it's enough, let it go.

2056
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 3: Cut the ties. He's not worth it. I love that

2057
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 3: he's not.

2058
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 4: He's not and they'll find out soon enough. He's limited

2059
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 4: in terms of what he can do.

2060
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 2: He couldn't even put up three hundred.

2061
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 4: Odd games in New York and they were down all

2062
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 4: the time, and we talked about the winner. He didn't

2063
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 4: elevate them, he didn't take them to the higher heights,

2064
01:35:58,240 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 4: you know.

2065
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

2066
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's a weird I think

2067
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 4: it's a weird deal. But it's one that the society

2068
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 4: needs to end an insurance quickly.

2069
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 1: And here's another situation where you don't usually hear Art

2070
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 1: Rooney the second the owner of the Pittsburgh Steal is

2071
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 1: really go public on anything, right, Art Rooney came out

2072
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 1: and says he's going to continue to wait on the

2073
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 1: free agency of quarterback Aaron Rodgers to solidify plans for

2074
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season, and obviously the timeline is

2075
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: getting real shorter and shorter as the days pass on.

2076
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: But my question is, would Art Rooney a consult Mike

2077
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 1: Tomlin or does Mike Tomlin have some sort of a

2078
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 1: meeting with Art Rooney or if Art Rooney obviously his owner,

2079
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: if he wants Aaron Rodgers, is it a done deal?

2080
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking, like, does Mike Tomlin really want the aggravation?

2081
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,799
Speaker 3: Can Mike Tomlin control Aaron Rodgers?

2082
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: That's the key? Does he want him?

2083
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 4: I mean, if he sees valuing him as a player.

2084
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin has shown the ability to work with all

2085
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 4: different types of personalities.

2086
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 2: I mean, heck, he he.

2087
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 4: Worked with Ben roethlis Roethlisberger is not the easiest one

2088
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 4: to quote unquote manage, but he was able to do

2089
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 4: it and he'll continue to be able to have success

2090
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 4: doing those things because He's built like that. He is

2091
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 4: not one who shoes away from conflict, confrontation and those things.

2092
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 4: That's why he's such a good leader. He'll figure it out.

2093
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 4: He'll be able to figure out a way to kind

2094
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 4: of maximize who Anne Rodgers is and what he can

2095
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 4: be for their team.

2096
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 2: I just don't like.

2097
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 4: I just don't know if he's talented enough to elevate

2098
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,600
Speaker 4: them in a division that has Joe Burrow and it

2099
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,959
Speaker 4: already has Lamar Jackson. I don't know where he stacks

2100
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:36,679
Speaker 4: amongst that pecking water.

2101
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: You know, I would say this, I just go on

2102
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 1: his past record. I've got to believe if he does

2103
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 1: sign with Pittsburgh A, it's going to be a heck

2104
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,799
Speaker 1: of a division with those three quarterbacks, Rogers borrowing Lamar Jackson.

2105
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: But more than that, I still think there's gotta be

2106
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 1: a little guess left in the tank. I mean, I

2107
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 1: know he had a terrible season. I know that coming

2108
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: up an injury, and usually a guy perferms better the

2109
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 1: year after the year it comes back. So he might

2110
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: be better now, although he is forty one. But you know,

2111
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,719
Speaker 1: rumors say that he's been working out in California right now.

2112
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that he would bring more to

2113
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 1: the table than what Pittsburgh has right now with the

2114
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Maybe maybe you like your doubts.

2115
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 2: I do have my doubts.

2116
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 4: I look, man, he doesn't want to get hit anymore.

2117
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 4: So if he's not gonna stand in the fire. You

2118
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 4: can't play with a quarterback that doesn't want to get hit.

2119
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 4: It limits what you can do because then as a

2120
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator facing a quarterback that I know doesn't want

2121
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 4: to get hit, Man, I'm gonna dial it up because

2122
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 4: I know at some point he's gonna get rid of

2123
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 4: the ball and get skittih He's gonna make turnovers. That's

2124
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 4: why we've seen more turnovers from him and forever. We've

2125
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 4: also seen him have more issues than we've ever seen.

2126
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 4: He used to dial it up and torch people when

2127
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 4: they would come after him.

2128
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 2: He's not the same He's not the same guy anymore.

2129
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 1: I would say this though, I would think that, and

2130
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just stinking between his years right now, that

2131
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 1: he would not want to go out leaving his legacy

2132
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: the way it was. I mean, look at the way

2133
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: Tom Brady went out Super Bowl champ. Most of these

2134
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 1: guys want to go out somewhat or close to being

2135
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 1: on top. He's going to be going out if he

2136
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: doesn't play this year. Really in the basement, really, really

2137
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 1: and truly, I think that he wants to go out

2138
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 1: at least on a playoff team. Maybe not winning the

2139
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but at least on a winning team going

2140
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: to the playoffs.

2141
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 4: I mean maybe, I mean, maybe, yeah, he can. I mean,

2142
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 4: I think he just wants to play. Don't know why

2143
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 4: he wants to play, continue to play, but he'd look.

2144
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 4: I understand he certainly wants to play and do those things.

2145
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Speaker 4: I just, man, I don't know how it's going to

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Speaker 4: turn out successfully for him, But I don't think you

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Speaker 4: can turn back to clock in the National Football League,

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Speaker 4: like father Time is undefeated and Father Time is caught

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Speaker 4: up with him.

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Speaker 1: Last question, I'll put you on the spot. Do you

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Speaker 1: think he'll be playing for the Pittsburgh steel I say yes.

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Speaker 1: Will he play for the Steelers this year? Your thoughts

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Speaker 1: yes or no?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's gonna play because they've cleared the

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Speaker 4: decks for him, So yeah, I think he's gonna end

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Speaker 4: up playing for them. I don't know how effective you

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Speaker 4: would be, but he's going to play for them. He's

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Speaker 4: gonna play for the Pittsburghs.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way. And September seventh is the key.

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Speaker 1: That's why Christa Steelers are playing at the Jets and

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Speaker 1: that game will be like a must see TV game.

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Speaker 1: the blame game. So don't go anywhere. But this media

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Speaker 1: really really isn't so social after all.

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Speaker 3: That's next.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, don't ever call them role models please. That's

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Speaker 1: coming right up. And this is Memorial Day edition of

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 1: the air. Now, this is for everybody who's ever played

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Speaker 1: the game. However, not for Bucket Brooks, because he's different,

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Speaker 1: he's better, he's above the board, he really is. And

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Speaker 1: talk about social media, all right, social media, what do

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Speaker 1: you use it for you to promote information, share ideas,

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Speaker 1: the conversation. It's immediate conversation, not like writing a letter

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Speaker 1: like I do, which is immediacy. It's great, but sorry

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Speaker 1: to say, I think you'll agree. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: use it to hate, spew hate. That's what they do

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Speaker 1: on it. You hide and make hurtful comments. And they

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Speaker 1: do for videos as well. And what do I mean

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Speaker 1: by that? I look at Tyre's Helberter Haliburton class agree

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Speaker 1: in that mik of Reggie Miller's choke gesture towards the

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Speaker 1: Nixon game number one, And I read this in the

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Speaker 1: New York Post. Here they Phil Muster got a I

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Speaker 1: think on Friday, and he said, if they have the

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Speaker 1: picture of Halli Burton putting his hands on his throat,

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Speaker 1: first of all, can you be a little more original?

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Speaker 1: You had a copy of Reggie Miller, you couldn't do

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Speaker 1: something on your own. Okay, this is what rober Phil

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Speaker 1: muschnerk wrote. Is the Commissioner Adam Silver happy with this?

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Speaker 1: Is he pleased that this is what the NBA and

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Speaker 1: his contracted messengers have become. Is there nothing he can

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Speaker 1: do or is there nothing he wants to do? To

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Speaker 1: restore some civility and sensible basketball to the NBA. All right,

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Speaker 1: I read that, and I said, well, maybe you're going

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Speaker 1: off the deep end a little bit philed. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: But then again, I say, you know, as we talked

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show with Brittany, maybe he's right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, kids are gonna see that. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: going through a high school game, Bucky and seeing a

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Speaker 1: kid doing the choke thing? It could happen. I don't

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Speaker 1: get it, and Adam Silver let it happen. Nothing's gonna

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Speaker 1: be There's gonna be no disciplinary action whatsoever when he

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Speaker 1: did that. That's gonna be. It's that's it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like I feel like we are

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Speaker 4: going over the top with some of the gestering.

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Speaker 2: I get it. And there's this fine.

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Speaker 4: Line right coaching high school guys, I understand, or youth

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01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,919
Speaker 4: sports in general, they copy what they see, they imitate

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Speaker 4: what they see from the pros. So the pros should

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Speaker 4: be role models and said good examples that said, like,

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Speaker 4: I think the columnist is making a mountain out of

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Speaker 4: a mole hill. When it comes to it, he threw

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Speaker 4: up the choke.

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Speaker 2: Jester.

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Speaker 4: Part of that was in good nature, fun for Indiana fans,

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Speaker 4: ripping Reggie Miller, who was on the call that night,

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Speaker 4: and given the ties that Reggie Miller has to the

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Speaker 4: Pacers organization, I get that, but it's not like on

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Speaker 4: a nightly basis, everybody is doing these wild, outlandish theatrics

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Speaker 4: that are taken away from the game. Like some of

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Speaker 4: us in front, some of you got to kind of

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Speaker 4: let go and slide. I mean we talked about Aaron Rodgers.

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01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:00,719
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers for years was famous for the discount double check,

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01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 4: like he's faking with the belt, particularly when he played

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Speaker 4: against the Chicago Bears. Some of it is like with athletes,

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Speaker 4: like that's part of the deal. You can get some

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Speaker 4: of the Port Gladiator Port's showmen from them. You're not

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Speaker 4: even be able to regulate in police all day, or

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Speaker 4: you shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'm glad you brought me down

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Speaker 1: to earth because I read that and I started thinking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, high school kids. But again it's showman.

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe I'm wrong that showmanship.

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Speaker 1: Like when Steph Curry does the sleeping thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: putting the teams to sleep. I got no problem with that.

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Speaker 1: I really had no problem with the choke thing. Until

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Speaker 1: I read that, I didn't think it was that big

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Speaker 1: of a deal. I mean, it's choking anybody the team choked.

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Speaker 1: They did choke.

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Speaker 2: They did choke, And some people don't like that.

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Speaker 4: I'm okay with some of that, Like I don't want

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Speaker 4: all the antics and gestures all the time.

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Speaker 2: But in this moment, like it was fine because he

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Speaker 2: was paying.

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Speaker 4: Homage to Everyone understands the iconic moment that Reggie Miller

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Speaker 4: had in the garden for it to end like that

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Speaker 4: or what we thought it was going to be the

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Speaker 4: end for the Pacers like that. Look, it was a moment.

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Speaker 4: It was a game winning shot man. He certainly would

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Speaker 4: have been paying homage directly to Reggie Miller for his

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Speaker 4: greatness and bringing back a fond memory for the Pacers organization.

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Speaker 1: Right, there's no doubt about that now. I remember I

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01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: read this way back in the day when Alan Iverson

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Speaker 1: played for the seventy six ers and he didn't stand

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Speaker 1: for the national anthem. This is a story, is a

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Speaker 1: true story, and I heard about it that I read

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Speaker 1: about it. David Stern, May he Rest in peace was

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Speaker 1: the commission at the time. He called the game was

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Speaker 1: played in the Spectrum in Philadelphia. He called the Spectrum

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Speaker 1: while watching it on TV and got a hold of

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Speaker 1: Iverson he find him.

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Speaker 3: But I think the national anthem is a situation different.

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Speaker 1: Than a choke situation. I mean, I don't know what's good,

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01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 1: what's been well? When do you stop? When do you go?

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01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 1: Brittany grinding yesterday with the F bomb during an interview.

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01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 1: It's a tough call, it really is. But I think

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Speaker 1: that right now, when this day and age, athletes basically

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Speaker 1: a lot more would you say free or loose or independent?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the term might be, but was

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Speaker 1: it back in the day when you play with they

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Speaker 1: like that? I don't think so. They're more independent now,

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Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know why, but they are.

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Speaker 4: They're more independent. But some of it has always existed.

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01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 4: David Stern certainly made it a point to police certain things.

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01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 4: He always had the brand in mind. And if you

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Speaker 4: think about part of the NFL success has been they're

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Speaker 4: perfect branding. They've done a great job of creating brands,

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Speaker 4: creating a brand that's the standard stuff that allows corporate

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Speaker 4: America to fall in love with it.

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Speaker 2: That's what the NFL has done.

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Speaker 4: D NBA wants the same thing, and so sometimes you

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Speaker 4: enact those policies and you do those things to make

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Speaker 4: sure that the brand always remains a bigger thing than

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Speaker 4: the individual. But some of it, some of it is

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Speaker 4: a little over the top. So you got to pick

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Speaker 4: and choose what really matters, right.

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Speaker 1: I think part of the problem is that when athletes

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Speaker 1: do things I would have to say or use the

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01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 1: term out of the ordinary, TV picks him up and

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Speaker 1: they use his highlights and that's basically what they do.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people, a lot of

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Speaker 1: athletes in general, want to be on the highlight reel.

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01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: They want the clicks on their social media account. And

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01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 1: I'll go back to social media which has basically created this.

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Speaker 1: And again I blame the commissioners At times, I yell

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01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 1: at them, where's Adam silver Wise and not doing this?

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Speaker 1: I don't think he has much control because he can't

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Speaker 1: control this social account. So how can he control them

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Speaker 1: on the court. If he's going to do if Halla

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Speaker 1: Burton's going to do to choke signal or situation on

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01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 1: his Instagram, how could he control them on the basketball court?

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Speaker 1: What's the difference?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 1: More people are going to see it on Instagram than

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01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 1: they will see it in the arena anyway, So what's

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01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 1: the difference. So he just lets it go and ignores it.

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01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: I guess, but the Red Sox I got a picture.

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01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 1: But David Liam Hendrix. He posted on social media that

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01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 1: he and his wife recently received death threats. Now this

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01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: is crazy, okay, He said, threats against me and my

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01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: wife's life are horrible and cruel. Leaving comments and telling

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01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 1: me to commit suicide and how you wish I died

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01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 1: from cancer is disgusting and vile. And this is sad.

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01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 1: This is sick, it really is, and he wrote they

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01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,600
Speaker 1: wrote on his account, maybe you should step back and

2346
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 1: re evaluate your life's purpose before hiding behind the screen

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01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: and attacking players and their families. It's nuts.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess people have the what I call

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01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 3: beer muscles.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're high behind with a different name on

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01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 1: a social account, and they go after these guys. But

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01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 1: athletes like Kevin Durant fall into the trap and the

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01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: answer they answer these guys and they go back and

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01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 1: forth them. I guess that's what these guys really want

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01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: to do. They want to suck you into their web

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01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 1: and get you fighting on social media, which is crazy.

2357
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 1: It really is.

2358
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's I mean, that's a big part

2359
01:49:57,760 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 4: of it. Like they do suck you into the web,

2360
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 4: and you have to pick, can choose when to respond

2361
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 4: in those things. But the good and the bad of

2362
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 4: social media has been social media allows fans to connect

2363
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:11,679
Speaker 4: with their favorite players. The bad thing is it allows

2364
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:13,720
Speaker 4: fans to connect with their favorite players, and so you

2365
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 4: have to deal with some of that stuff, and a

2366
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 4: lot of it you put on the players to be

2367
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 4: above it.

2368
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 2: But I do understand when they want to wallow in

2369
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:22,679
Speaker 2: the muck and you know.

2370
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 4: Go back at the haters as they would call it,

2371
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:28,640
Speaker 4: because sometimes it is unnecessary some of the stuff that

2372
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 4: we're getting from the fans weighing.

2373
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:33,480
Speaker 2: In even though no one asks for their opinion.

2374
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 1: Right, you're exactly. I'm going back to Hendrix, the pitcher

2375
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 1: on the Red Sox. He's a three time All Star

2376
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 1: and he's also a cancer survivor. So anybody who is

2377
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 1: that sick and that much of a degenerate to write

2378
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 1: to him and wish he would die is crazy. It

2379
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 1: really is. But my question is this, is there any

2380
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: ruling on various teams? And you would know because you

2381
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 1: played that. Coaches say that we don't want you to

2382
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 1: have an account. I think on high school, a lot

2383
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,679
Speaker 1: of these kids on high school, I think coaches don't

2384
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 1: want them to have an account, a social media account

2385
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 1: for that specific reason that they're going to get comments.

2386
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 1: Maybe if they lose a game and they say, it's

2387
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 1: your fault. You did this in a created a major

2388
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 1: problem in their life. So I think rather than have

2389
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,560
Speaker 1: that problem, coaches will tell them I don't want you

2390
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 1: having an account. I don't think they could do that

2391
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 1: or do that in college, do they pros is a

2392
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 1: different story, but in college and high school could be

2393
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 1: a different story as well.

2394
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 4: I think what you're trying to do is you try

2395
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,640
Speaker 4: not to make them run from having an account. You

2396
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 4: try and teach them how to use their account and

2397
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 4: platform responsibly. You try to give them the dues and

2398
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,679
Speaker 4: don'ts of how to operate in that social media space.

2399
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 4: Whether it's a ignore these guys, mute these guys, block

2400
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 4: these guys, this is a perfect time to respond. You

2401
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 4: have to understand the dues and don'ts of living on

2402
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 4: social media as a public figure. And once they get

2403
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 4: that down, regardless of level, because even in high school.

2404
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 4: If you're a local high school star, you're a bit

2405
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 4: of a celebrity in town. So you got to pick

2406
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 4: and choose what you want to weigh in on. And

2407
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 4: you want to make sure that your social media profile,

2408
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 4: your digital footprint matches who you really really say you are,

2409
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:15,520
Speaker 4: because if it doesn't, it becomes an issue, becomes problematic,

2410
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 4: because then you can't be the face of the franchise.

2411
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 4: You can't be the representative of the program if you

2412
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 4: have all kinds of shady stuff for things that are

2413
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 4: inappropriate on your timeline, on your feet.

2414
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 1: It's amazing because now they talk about Anthony Edwards dan

2415
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: Man in Minnesota with the Timberwolves being the so called

2416
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: face of the NBA. First of all, I don't know

2417
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 1: does a league need a face number one and number two?

2418
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 1: What does it mean when you're the face of the league?

2419
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: They say Jerry West is the face, He's the logo

2420
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 1: of the NBA. What does that mean? I mean to

2421
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 1: be the face of the league. And do you have

2422
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 1: to have a face?

2423
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if you have to have

2424
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 4: one singular face, but you want to have stars. That league,

2425
01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 4: in particular, the NBA has been built on star power.

2426
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 4: The NFL is built on team power. They built it

2427
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 4: around the teams, which is why the teams are prominent.

2428
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 4: Like going all the way back to Pete Rosel and

2429
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 4: the uniform dress code and the way they promoted the game.

2430
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 4: It was always about the team, not the individual player.

2431
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 4: The NBA took a different tack because Magic and Larry

2432
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 4: Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, they were the.

2433
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 2: Faces of the league.

2434
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 4: The league used their rivalry to promote the league and

2435
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 4: build the league up. And so from that point on,

2436
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 4: they've been looking for these magnetic personality types with big

2437
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 4: time games to carry the league to the next level,

2438
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 4: and they haven't been able to accurately identify it. So

2439
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 4: when they're talking about face of the league, they're trying

2440
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 4: to talk about the person who can go and represent

2441
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 4: the league to the fullest.

2442
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 1: Okay, do you think the man is going to be

2443
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 1: that guy?

2444
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 4: No, Like, I think it's a combination of guys. I think, look,

2445
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 4: and people are going to get mad, but like, there's

2446
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:00,639
Speaker 4: a number of international players that would do it. Look,

2447
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 4: I think SGA, now that he has the MVP.

2448
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 2: He can do it.

2449
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 4: Joker can do it, Luka, Doncis can do it, and

2450
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 4: man can be a part of that conversation, Giannis, and

2451
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 4: to compote, he can be a part of it. So

2452
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 4: there are a lot of people and they have a

2453
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 4: lot of international flair. I don't think you can put

2454
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:21,759
Speaker 4: the crown on just one person to carry the league,

2455
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 4: this team. This league is better when there's competition. The

2456
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:28,679
Speaker 4: league is better when there's natural robberies that are created.

2457
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 4: And sometimes those robberies get a little contentious. We need

2458
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 4: more of that stuff to show to appeal to people

2459
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 4: watching games.

2460
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 1: And once again I learned something from you type. Because

2461
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 1: the NFL has a shield, the NBA has Jerry West

2462
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 1: and Major League Baseball. I think the picture on the

2463
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball logo is Harmon Killerbrew. I think that's

2464
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 1: the killer. Really. I think he's kind of the face

2465
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: of baseball. Why they picked Harmon Killerber with everybody else,

2466
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I believe that's Harmon Killerbro.

2467
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: So we continue move on, Bucky brooks Andy Verban, Fox Sports,

2468
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 1: so they all Fox Sports Radio. You know, this is

2469
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 1: really easy. Everybody likes to point fingers, So let's do it.

2470
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 1: The playing game. It's freaking next, all right, play it,

2471
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Stevie one and there we go on Memorial Day. The

2472
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 1: blame game coming right up. It's about thirteen minutes before

2473
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. We're lying from the Fox

2474
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 1: Sports radio studios. He's bucket broke on Andy Freman. And

2475
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 1: by the way, at the top of the hour, nine

2476
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 1: am Eastern countdown. What a great show that is. Countdown

2477
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 1: for all the games. Brian No, Bill Kracklberger, my guy

2478
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz will join you at the top of the album.

2479
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 1: Right now, it's fine for Patty. Let's go as ruin me.

2480
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 1: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. What is

2481
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 1: all your fault? Maybe it's everyone's fault. He's a liar.

2482
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 1: That's why there's the blame game. The blame game. Let's

2483
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 1: figure out who to blame here.

2484
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 5: He is, he's the liar himself, Patty, I am the

2485
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 5: big liar myself. Here. Let's go, well, guys, let's start

2486
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 5: off hot with this one.

2487
01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 8: Guys.

2488
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 5: So Indiana Fever forward, not Kaitlin Clark, Sophie Cunningham were

2489
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 5: going here. Has denied accusations act let me say that again.

2490
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 5: Has denied accusations no, thank you Mighty, that she was

2491
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 5: involved in an affair with a Phoenix Sons and Phoenix

2492
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 5: Mercury CEO, Josh Bartelstein, Sophie, Sophie Cunningham.

2493
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 8: Who do you blame for this? Andy?

2494
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 1: Probably blame Bartlestein because if you never saw Sophie cutting,

2495
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 1: and he probably would love to have an affair. Withever

2496
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 1: Real Skuy Barnastey must be some sort of a loser. Real,

2497
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 1: I have to see what he looks like.

2498
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I don't think it's appropriate

2499
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 2: for us to speculate.

2500
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 4: I don't think we don't know about the security guard

2501
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 4: put it out there.

2502
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna blame the security guard for.

2503
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 4: Putting it out there, doing his testimony or doing his

2504
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 4: lawsuit against the Phoenix Suns.

2505
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 1: All right, come on, take a.

2506
01:56:58,600 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 2: I don't know enough.

2507
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 1: I never know enough.

2508
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of a team that doesn't know enough either,

2509
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:07,640
Speaker 5: we have the New York Meds.

2510
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 8: I'm just taking a shot at him. It's just funny.

2511
01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 5: So Wan Soda can make a double into a single.

2512
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 5: He never runs hard. Who do you blame?

2513
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:16,360
Speaker 8: Bucky Brooks?

2514
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 4: Look, I blame Juan Soto. He has to run it

2515
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 4: out like he's a hot dog. I love hot dogs,

2516
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:22,840
Speaker 4: but he's.

2517
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 2: A hot dog. He doesn't always run it out.

2518
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:26,880
Speaker 4: He has theatrics in those things, and it's come back

2519
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 4: to bite them a little bit. He needs to play

2520
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 4: like a little leaguer, go run hard, run out every

2521
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 4: at bad.

2522
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 1: Very easy to blame one soda course, it's his full

2523
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 1: But you know what, I blame all his coaches all

2524
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 1: the way down from when he first started playing solo baseball, really,

2525
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 1: because if you don't push the guy, who's not going

2526
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 1: to know how to play the game right. He never

2527
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 1: was taught how to play the game right, right, Bucky.

2528
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 1: That's why he does that. I don't think the course

2529
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 1: is a hot dog. He just that's the way he

2530
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 1: played all the time.

2531
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 4: I mean that is he has always been a hot dog.

2532
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 4: Someone should have coached it out of Maryland.

2533
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Thank you? Well, do you agree with me?

2534
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 8: Huh to a point.

2535
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:07,360
Speaker 5: Well, we're not going to talk about hot dogs on

2536
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 5: this next one, even though I do like food as well.

2537
01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 5: But now that the NFL has added flag football to

2538
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty eight Olympics, who do you blame and why?

2539
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 3: Andy, Well, you gotta blame not who, but what.

2540
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 1: It's money, the green salvation of life, the green cabbage,

2541
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: the guilt because more games, more money, and they want

2542
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 1: to expand the flag football is going to expand the

2543
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 1: exposure of the league. Why I don't know, because I

2544
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:34,760
Speaker 1: guess people around the world are too stupid to realize

2545
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 1: flag football is not Sunday National Football League football. It's

2546
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 1: a different game. But they don't know. They don't know

2547
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: the difference is football is football. So it's going to

2548
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: help the league in that regard merchandise sales.

2549
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's about the league.

2550
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 4: The league is to blame. The NFL is to blame

2551
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 4: because they want to expand the game. They want to

2552
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 4: grow the game because more people that consume the game

2553
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 4: at the flag football level, the more eventually gonna watch

2554
01:58:57,080 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 4: NFL football to consume all the merchandise and everything that

2555
01:58:59,440 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 4: the NFL.

2556
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 2: That's part of it is the NFL's.

2557
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 5: Form, all right, Well, with NFL eighteen games seem inevitable

2558
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 5: for the NFL.

2559
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 8: Who do you blame, Bucky.

2560
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I blame us. I blame us for

2561
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 2: bringing these people in to the top of I blame us.

2562
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 2: We're to blame. We're to blame for all of it.

2563
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 3: You know what I would say this I'm not blaming anybody.

2564
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm blaming the commission who was too stupid to realize

2565
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 1: that seventeen games is an odd number, right, I mean,

2566
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 1: really and truly, what do you do nine home games

2567
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,040
Speaker 1: for some teams and eight home games for others. You

2568
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 1: gotta even it out, so you gotta make it eighteen.

2569
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 1: That's why you can't have an odd schedule, which they've

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Speaker 1: had in the last several years, seventeen games, So you

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Speaker 1: gotta make it eighteen games.

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Speaker 4: Well, sixteen, well, eighteen eighteen because you're gonna get away

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Speaker 4: with the preseason. You have two preseason games and then

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Speaker 4: eighteen games. So it makes it that even twenty, so

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Speaker 4: eighteen will eventually be the number twenties. The total number

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Speaker 4: eighteen has to be directar season number.

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Speaker 8: There you go, I got one more?

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Speaker 1: You do? Oh?

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Speaker 8: I got one.

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Speaker 5: The New York Knicks are down zero to two against

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Speaker 5: the Indiana Pacers, and they lost twice at home, with

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Speaker 5: one being a choke job.

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Speaker 8: Who do you blame, Andy?

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Speaker 1: They didn't put their foot to the gas to close

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Speaker 1: it out. You know what, I gotta blame them. They

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Speaker 1: have no one else to blame with themselves.

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Speaker 4: The Knickerbocker is because it's all about Tom tiberdau Kis fault.

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Speaker 1: Next week we'll see it be with us