WEBVTT - Basketball Wives EXCLUSIVE: Laura Govan Interview

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<v Speaker 1>About rain drops.

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<v Speaker 2>We are here with my friend Okay, she's a friend

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<v Speaker 2>of mine for over a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>I love her. We were just talking earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, Seriously, she's aging backwards, aging backwards. She looks twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years younger. She's always been in battie. She has a

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<v Speaker 2>potty mouth, but if you know her, her heart is

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<v Speaker 2>pure gold. Give it up for the beautiful legion of

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<v Speaker 2>reality television. She outdresses any girl on television backs Laura Govin.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you baby?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so good?

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<v Speaker 2>You look okay, no shade, what's his secret? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>alkaline water? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? What is it? You look amazing?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's for sure good, that's right. And then after

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<v Speaker 3>it's creams right and then say less oil always does

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<v Speaker 3>the trick.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, coconut oil.

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<v Speaker 3>Were from head to toe baby on me and him?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, coconut oil. We'll just be slipping the sign. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's good. Life is good.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not seen this happy ever because when I

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<v Speaker 2>met you, he was going through a divorce and the

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<v Speaker 2>custody battle, separation, all that stuff. So this is the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, and this is real, tea. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>first time in our friendship that I see you glowing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thanks, bab I didn't glow before you. Listen you

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<v Speaker 3>you you're naturally gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm being very honest with you. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>this cloud. I mean, listen, you were going through something

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<v Speaker 2>so horrific in your relationship that any woman would have

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<v Speaker 2>a hint of darkness bring over them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what's so crazy too. In all of

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<v Speaker 3>my TV life, I have always been authentic and myself

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<v Speaker 3>The biggest problem I've always had is that I can't

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<v Speaker 3>fake that. Like I gave you what I was at

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<v Speaker 3>the time. If I wasn't happy, you saw I wasn't happy.

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<v Speaker 3>If I wasn't if I was miserable, I gave you

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<v Speaker 3>because it just it's hard. I'm from Oakland. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>fake it. It's just it is what it is, like bro, like, nah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going in today. Today is the day that she

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get it. Whoever. And it was based off of

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't have any control. I was really immature.

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<v Speaker 3>I was. I was just for the moment. And however

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<v Speaker 3>you got it is, I accepted it and I was

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<v Speaker 3>good with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk about this because you are from Oakland.

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<v Speaker 2>Your April Latina, correct, your father's black, your mother's Latin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay. Do you have how many siblings?

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<v Speaker 3>So there's nine of us. I have five brothers and

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<v Speaker 3>four sisters and all from the same parents. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so my parents have been married for fifty one years

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<v Speaker 3>and together forever, right, and growing up, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was something about I just didn't really like my sisters.

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<v Speaker 3>I always rocked with my brothers cause they like hooped,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>They always talk shit, nobody took nothing personal, so like

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<v Speaker 3>it was that type of attitude. I learned how to fight,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I really learn how to fight. I'm not into

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<v Speaker 3>the pulling hair and like, no, bro, like we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>square up and go toe to toe and then afterwards

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna be cool because we had to get it out.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. I learned from them like a male, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know when you gotta have be territorial and it's

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<v Speaker 3>like who's up, who's down. But I also learned from

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<v Speaker 3>my mom how to be domestic. I watched her come in,

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<v Speaker 3>she cooked every day. She I used to watch my

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<v Speaker 3>dad walk in the house and he would sit down

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<v Speaker 3>and she would go take your shoes off. And I

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<v Speaker 3>used to be like, I'm never doing that ever, because

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind I used to think, like, why is

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<v Speaker 3>she slaving for him? But then I understood it. But

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<v Speaker 3>I can give slave mentalion another way when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to that. So I'm gonna do you another one. I

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<v Speaker 3>take care of you tonight, but I'm not taking off

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<v Speaker 3>your shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>So you being this girl growing up with eight siblings,

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<v Speaker 2>I can relate to that my parents before my mom

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<v Speaker 2>passed and were married for over forty years. It's ten

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<v Speaker 2>of us, seven boys and three girls, okay, And I know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm number five out of ten. Okay, so I know.

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<v Speaker 1>From big family, I'm right in the middle. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know, coming from a big family, you always

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<v Speaker 2>try to.

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<v Speaker 1>Find your identity.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your identity having three sisters and five brothers, So.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, honestly, I had I'm third to the last,

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<v Speaker 3>so I was the seventh baby. I took care of

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<v Speaker 3>my younger brother and sister. Like Lonnie and Gloria, I

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<v Speaker 3>took care of they had really nobody kind of I

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't say that, but they had all of us, but

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<v Speaker 3>they were just coddled up under me. I just took

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<v Speaker 3>them up. But I'm so mothering and I knew, even

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<v Speaker 3>at a young age, I was put on this planet

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<v Speaker 3>to be a mom. I just I knew it. Then.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to have weekend school with them. I took

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<v Speaker 3>care of them. I taught him how to read, write, write,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So it was that type of thing. But

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<v Speaker 3>not only because my parents were working busy. My dad

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<v Speaker 3>owned jazz venues, my mom was and they were both

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<v Speaker 3>in education. My dad did jazz venue at night, but

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<v Speaker 3>in the day he was an educator. He was a

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<v Speaker 3>principal and a council at Oakland High School where I went,

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<v Speaker 3>and then my mom was at a bilingual school and

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<v Speaker 3>so she was there and then they would just they

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<v Speaker 3>would work together at night. So I would take care

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<v Speaker 3>of my brother and sister. I would just make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that they were bathed, shower, you know, everything was taking

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<v Speaker 3>care hair, combed, clothed. I mean I went to I

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<v Speaker 3>got arrested the first time at thirteen years old because

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<v Speaker 3>I had stole from Ross and I remember my sister

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<v Speaker 3>wanting a little Mermaid birthday party, and so I stole

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<v Speaker 3>everything little Mermaid and I almost got away until the end.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened, I got busted. The chick was like because

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<v Speaker 3>I was walking out and as soon as I hit

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<v Speaker 3>the door because I got nervous, I hit the door

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<v Speaker 3>at Ross and the shit fell out my jacket. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was holding a Hella tight and I had it scooped,

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<v Speaker 3>and the shit came out, and I remember, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was crazy because the officer ended up taking me home

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<v Speaker 3>because I had caught the bar all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Bay Fair Mal I had taken the bar

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, go anyway, long story, and I yep, And

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<v Speaker 3>they took me home and my dad was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 3>you need to she needs to sit in that car

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<v Speaker 3>for a little bit. I need her to never be

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<v Speaker 3>in this position again. And I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>But everything I did was for my brother and sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I would remember going to Lucky in the Bay Area

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<v Speaker 3>and that was our grocery store, and I would go

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<v Speaker 3>in with an empty backpack and I would leave with

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<v Speaker 3>a full backpack, just to take care of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is your relationship like now with Gloria because

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<v Speaker 2>we saw you too on the show. Yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there did appear to be some sort of like I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>sisters go through the stuff. We see that with the Kardashians.

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<v Speaker 2>But what is your relationship like now with her? Because

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<v Speaker 2>what we did see was like a little bit of friction.

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<v Speaker 3>Our relationship now is we're sisters. Listen. Our kids are

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful together. I would never in a million years take

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<v Speaker 3>our children away from each other. They've grown up together,

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<v Speaker 3>they love each other. I love them. They're she has

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful she has a beautiful family, great kids. They're amazing

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<v Speaker 3>and they're my kids, best friends. So it's beautiful to

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<v Speaker 3>watch it's cousins. That's something that I knew that regardless

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<v Speaker 3>of her and our relationship, I would never take that away.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I make sure that it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>sustained and it's nurtured, and I do a good job

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<v Speaker 3>with that. So as an auntie and as far as

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<v Speaker 3>she and I, I mean, we've always just coexisted. If

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<v Speaker 3>we're keeping it a buck a little girls, no no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>no no no. So when hm, So what really happened

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<v Speaker 3>is a family matter happened, and it was a nasty one,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was something that for me I could say

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<v Speaker 3>with her, I'm in a good space today than I

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<v Speaker 3>was before because what we had went through is just

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<v Speaker 3>not okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And what year this founding matter happened?

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<v Speaker 3>It happened, Honestly, it happened early. It happened. When I

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<v Speaker 3>say early, I mean, shoot, I think I was twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was twenty and I just turned forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Five, So twenty five years ago this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So twenty five years ago, maybe even sooner maybe when yeah, twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Five years ago, and ever since then, things have never

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<v Speaker 2>been the same, never and it won't ever be the same.

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<v Speaker 3>No really, yeah, no, I will always be her sister,

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<v Speaker 3>and I will always love her as a sister. Like

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<v Speaker 3>let me tell you, you're not gonna come in here

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<v Speaker 3>and talk shit about my sister and try to find

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<v Speaker 3>my sister. It's still gonna go all the way down.

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<v Speaker 3>But when we're in a room, we're good, Like we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have no beef, there's no friction. We'll laugh when

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<v Speaker 3>you see this. We actually are working on a spin

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<v Speaker 3>off from a show, and we'll see what happens. But

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<v Speaker 3>I want to keep it a thousand, like I'm yo.

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<v Speaker 3>The older I get, the worse my brain to my

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<v Speaker 3>mouth comes like whatever, I just say, what go on?

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<v Speaker 3>You've always been that woman, though it's gotten worse.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to tell the story because when we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing The Next fifteen, even prior to that, I've

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<v Speaker 2>always been obsessed with you, and I remember telling you

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<v Speaker 2>like there is something about your family.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed. It's giving me.

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<v Speaker 2>Kardashian, one of your brothers who I was able to meet,

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<v Speaker 2>is like, y'all think she's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he's so hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother is like so cute, gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I've seen bitches walk in the walls for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like them. Yeah, but let's be Claire.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mom and dad are five till like nor your

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<v Speaker 2>father's like daddy.

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<v Speaker 3>So girl still be trying to get him. Yo, he's

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<v Speaker 3>so crazy, don't you know?

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<v Speaker 1>It's gorgeous my mom. Yeah, and your mom is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>No, your fact, your whole family's like stunningly gorgeous. So

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<v Speaker 2>long story short, I'm telling my friend Laura, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with the go I want to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>Long story shirt. You probably remember this, maybe you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I said I want to do something with you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and you said, okay, let me talk to my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a meeting with me, you and Gloria.

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<v Speaker 2>At the the Love's Hotel in Hollywood, and we're in

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<v Speaker 2>the lobby. And you've always been a straight shooter. You

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<v Speaker 2>are a business woman. You are about like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care what's happening personally. If it's about business, you show up.

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<v Speaker 2>Long story, show up. Y'all both showed up. And obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan of Gloria and everything she has going

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<v Speaker 2>on in her life that we saw on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>But in that meeting, I remember thinking to myself, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this dynamic is interesting, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was shocked how quiet Gloria was. I was shocked,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think even you were like, say something, We're

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<v Speaker 1>in a meeting with a producer.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening? So you talk about being this mama bear.

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<v Speaker 2>You had that presence even still. So as you two

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<v Speaker 2>are working on this spin off, is it easy or

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<v Speaker 2>is it just business?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say it's not the I wouldn't use the

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<v Speaker 3>word easier. I would use the word mature. I'm very

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<v Speaker 3>much more mature. But they're still you know, when it's

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<v Speaker 3>a sibling, you still get these butterflies in your stomach

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<v Speaker 3>because at any moment for me and my personality, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't my takeoff point, and what I mean by takeoff

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<v Speaker 3>is when I'm about to take off on somebody is

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<v Speaker 3>really short. And the reason why it is because I

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<v Speaker 3>immediately I know, we all know what the issue is,

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<v Speaker 3>so I immediately get defensive. And then I immediately my

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<v Speaker 3>defense is quiet, and you don't want me quiet because

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<v Speaker 3>and then it escalades and then it goes into a

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<v Speaker 3>space where it's just not healthy for nobody. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just to say that I'm like this tornado who

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<v Speaker 3>comes in, But let's really talk about some shit. If

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to talk, I don't want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I find that we bullshit and talk a lot, But

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<v Speaker 3>why don't we just address this and knock it out.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in family, a lot of people let shit

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<v Speaker 3>linger and sweep that shit under the rug. So every

0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.080
<v Speaker 3>time you're in a family reunion, but then it's just

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<v Speaker 3>not comfortable. It's not a good space to be in.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess what, we're fucking older now, I got some shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to tell you, bitch, you're a person on

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<v Speaker 3>so many levels. And guess what, it's okay now because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want you today. That's why it makes it okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But it also is that. And I told her, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I always wanted to get to a space

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<v Speaker 3>where my parents are alive. My dad is eighty three,

0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.760
<v Speaker 3>my mom is seventy three. I'm at a space that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, God forbid, if they passed away, Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, I can't even say that without crying. That

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<v Speaker 3>I would speak to her. I think I speak to

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<v Speaker 3>her because they're alive. And that breaks my heart because

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<v Speaker 3>I have two daughters and I couldn't fathom nor imagine

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. And here's the other thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like it when if you're wrong, just say sorry. Those

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<v Speaker 3>words could have cleared up years years, but since you

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<v Speaker 3>want to walk around because it becomes a narcissistic thing

0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:33.080
<v Speaker 3>where you now because you don't want to take any accountability,

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<v Speaker 3>you put the blame and then you act like it's

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<v Speaker 3>all okay, Well guess what it's not, bitch, So there

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<v Speaker 3>we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like for you to clear up a rumor. Okay, please,

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<v Speaker 1>One thing about you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are very protective of people you love, Yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's at the expense of your own reputation. Facts,

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<v Speaker 2>there's rumors that there's an athlete that you were accused.

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<v Speaker 1>Of being with.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's just come on.

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<v Speaker 2>There's rumors that you had sex with Shack. And the

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<v Speaker 2>rumor is you never had sex with Shack, but your

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<v Speaker 2>sister did, and that you protected her by just allowing

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<v Speaker 2>the rumor to be thrown at you.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's what I would say about that. Here's what

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say about that. I want to clean

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<v Speaker 3>up nothing until I talk to Shanni because she is

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<v Speaker 3>the one who started all this. So when she's ready

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<v Speaker 3>to have a real woman to woman conversation. Then I'll

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<v Speaker 3>let that be out whatever it is and whatever happened

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<v Speaker 3>and how it and the truth about what really happened

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<v Speaker 3>and transpired. But not only are you going to hear

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<v Speaker 3>my answer and what the truth is, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>give you some of you too.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by you'll give Shannie some of her?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because she thought that me coming back on Basketball

0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Wives was gonna be like a oh, Laura's she's ready,

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<v Speaker 3>like she's ready to say sorry, and she's ready to

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<v Speaker 3>confest like this was her. This is what I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like because she had me ambushed. You saw it, everybody

0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.560
<v Speaker 3>saw it. Every time I went to sit down to

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<v Speaker 3>eat to eat before I went like this, they were like,

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<v Speaker 3>so let me, we want to just read something from

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't even like Matthew's twenty eighteen. It was like

0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:39.639
<v Speaker 3>from her narrating some shit. Well, bitch, I'll show you, okay,

0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.320
<v Speaker 3>bet So, since you feel like you wanted to vomit

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<v Speaker 3>all this shit out without hearing my side, my story,

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<v Speaker 3>my truth, this is what you're doing, let me tell

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<v Speaker 3>you about you. Since you want to talk about me,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just we're gonna keep it a buck a thousand

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<v Speaker 3>on A thousand, That's where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 2>There's rumors that you have been blocked from being on

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<v Speaker 2>Basketball Wives for years because she did not want you

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<v Speaker 2>on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had we had DMed each other. Shawnie actually

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<v Speaker 3>DM me and said that she wanted to clear up

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<v Speaker 3>a rumor that she was the reason why I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>on Basketball Wives. But she dmned you whin She DM

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<v Speaker 3>me this year in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>she DM me this year, and my response was, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember their response. I'll pull up a DM sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll let you see it. But I just remember being like, yeah, cool,

0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.159
<v Speaker 3>Like that's what's up. Like because I see her, our

0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.919
<v Speaker 3>daughters play basketball a lot together. I love I still

0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.800
<v Speaker 3>I love her children. I see them, I say hi,

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<v Speaker 3>I always speak, they always speak, They're always respectful, They're

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<v Speaker 3>always really nice, never rude, never nothing. And her daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>I love her daughter. Sometimes I hear her call me

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<v Speaker 3>Auntie and I'm like, holy shit, you know, And and

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<v Speaker 3>I I take pride in that nothing could happen to

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<v Speaker 3>her babies when I'm in the you know, in present,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I had to. We would see each other

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<v Speaker 3>and it was It's never awkward for me and with anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't care, like I'm always gonna be myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always gonna sit on the floor like it is

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. And so she, you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>she felt some type of way. But yeah, she saw

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<v Speaker 3>me at an event, and I think cause you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we were always just be like cordial. There was no beef.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like when she walks past me. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>like even today when I see Drea, if you know,

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<v Speaker 3>oh we want, I want to we want I had

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<v Speaker 3>to bring out. Yeah. But so when it was like

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<v Speaker 3>when we see each other, it was just a mutual

0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.480
<v Speaker 3>thing like you know, Bygun's by Gun, I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>care like whatever, so anyw So when we you know,

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Speaker 3>it's a mutual thing. And then on top of that,

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<v Speaker 3>the respect out of it. And then when she told

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<v Speaker 3>me that DM when she DM me that I was good,

0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.040
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh shit, okay, bet so I started.

0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 3>The producers reached out. It was a whole process. But

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.280
<v Speaker 3>producers from before and people from before on the show

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<v Speaker 3>always told me that the issue was her. Producers, this

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<v Speaker 3>is not and you know, I know people it was not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not getting secondhand bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't and listen. I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to corroborate your story because obviously is my

0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.200
<v Speaker 2>is my genre in which I work. I am very

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<v Speaker 2>much aware that in order to be on the show

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<v Speaker 2>and listen, she created it, and.

0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:55.040
<v Speaker 3>She didn't create Basketball Wives La. That's not true. She

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<v Speaker 3>did not. My sister and I started the whole process,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole entire process. We are the ones that brought

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<v Speaker 3>the girls to begin with. I remember having breakfast at

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 3>the Cheesecake Factory trying to bring on Jackie like me

0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 3>and my sister brought Basketball Wives La to VH one.

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<v Speaker 3>All the interviews were taken at my house in Arenda

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<v Speaker 3>in the Bay. This started years ago, and she just

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.920
<v Speaker 3>had Basketball Wives La. I mean Miami. We had started

0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:30.199
<v Speaker 3>Basketball Wives La. It was a separate entity at first.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when we told them, because I told my sister,

0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm not doing this forever because I

0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.840
<v Speaker 3>can't be on here. Like I was just showing up

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<v Speaker 3>being myself at the time, miserable and crazy. I just

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.399
<v Speaker 3>wanted I was just like anybody could get it, and

0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:46.400
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't a good space for me to be in.

0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.159
<v Speaker 3>So and Once I realized that part, I was like, oh,

0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I can't do this anymore. So I pulled out. And

0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.119
<v Speaker 3>then I'm not even sure if my sister stayed. But

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 3>we were going to start our own show. Oh blah

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah blah, and then it just kind of

0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 3>never took off and we just started living our lives.

0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:03.360
<v Speaker 3>But where we are today, it is what it is

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 3>so like when I show up now and from Oh

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:11.639
<v Speaker 3>and this is another rumor that I hear so allegedly Gilbert.

0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 3>She's talking to Gilbert who is she Shannie all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>allegedly and it was said that now you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>come my shit be authentic. I'm not just coming with

0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:28.600
<v Speaker 3>like bullshit, but I'm gonna say allegedly just to say it.

0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:32.520
<v Speaker 3>But they're talking, and what was said was that he

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Gilbert and his new fiance are going to be on

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<v Speaker 3>the show. Only if I'm to be put off.

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<v Speaker 2>When you came back to do basketball lives, were you

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<v Speaker 2>under the impression that, Okay, SHAWNI dan me, she wants

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<v Speaker 2>to clear the air.

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for a scene to me or Shannie

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't wait.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like this every day, like key she walking

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<v Speaker 3>in any minute, whe's coming. No come? Okay? Back next day?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:02.440
<v Speaker 3>No come. I was like, we got two more days

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:04.719
<v Speaker 3>of this shit when it's been showing up okay, I

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 3>was like, what's happening? Where are you at? No show?

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<v Speaker 2>So when Evelyn conveniently brought the excerpt of a book

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<v Speaker 2>to an international.

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<v Speaker 3>Casture, come on, keep coming.

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:21.639
<v Speaker 1>In your heart of hearts?

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you believe Evelyn was sent by Shawnee to bring

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<v Speaker 2>up the shack thing in order for you to be

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:35.560
<v Speaker 2>embarrassed on national television or just that was their way

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<v Speaker 2>of having it addressed.

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it. I felt it was to be embarrassed.

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 3>I felt it was to be ambushed if you were

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 3>okay for people who just saw it. I was living it.

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 3>I was in it, and it was an ambush. And

0:23:55.400 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 3>my years previous, that ambush would have been a tornado.

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Everybody would have got hands. To date, everybody's gonna get

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 3>this mouth. That's where I'm at. So when they commenced

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:13.680
<v Speaker 3>to doing they little reading at the table and shit,

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<v Speaker 3>no problem, keep it coming, because what you're not gonna

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 3>do is get them. I'm not gonna I'm older now,

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm much more mature. I don't do telephone. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna tell you anything, first of all, especially you

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 3>meaning Evelyn or anybody at that table, what really happened

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 3>or how it went down. Let me take that back,

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 3>because I actually told Evelyn some shit in the car

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<v Speaker 3>because I was talking to her. And I like Evelyn,

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I love her daughter, I like her a lot from

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 3>when I would see her. But what I didn't like

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.719
<v Speaker 3>is how messy she made it. You didn't have to

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 3>do that. You could have been like yo, ell, let

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 3>me how er at you real quick, because that's where

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 3>I thought we were. Regardless if you're her friend or not,

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 3>you still being a messy bitch is another thing. But

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 3>you being a woman and being like yo, her coming

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 3>at you like that, yeah, I don't really did. But

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 3>let me give it to you how I'm gonna give

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 3>it to you. You know what I'm saying, Come at

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 3>me like that, not like here it is. Here's the cookies,

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.400
<v Speaker 3>eat them? Oh yeah, well how about we talk about

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 3>your cookies too, since you want to be up here

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 3>talking about who I slept with? Who'd you sleep with?

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Since we're talking? But those are things that I'm gonna

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 3>address with her when I get back on that show,

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 3>since you don't want to do it when I see

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 3>you at Whole Foods, and since you don't want to

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 3>do it when I see you in Porter Ranch anymore,

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 3>since you avoided me at Whole Foods. I saw you

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 3>doing this behind the clerk at the counter, moving as

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 3>they moved, as I was trying to move to see you,

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 3>but I had so many eggs. I was actually gonna

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 3>come over, but I didn't. And it's okay. I think

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 3>it was for the best. We'll leave it at that.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 3>So you are you Just keep it up. Buck Carlos.

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<v Speaker 1>And our fathers. The section she was at, we.

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 3>Were both here's what's crazy we and this is a

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 3>real story. Tell me if it ain't, Miss Evelyn. We

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 3>were both at the line checking out. She's with the person,

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm with the person. Her person is here, but she's

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 3>in front. My person is here and I'm in back,

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.159
<v Speaker 3>so we're right. So as I'm going like this, I

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 3>could see her moving with the clerk as the clerk,

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, damn, biblehead, say less. But I'll

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 3>see you. I see you all the time, actually, but

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 3>usually it's in the current passing. But I'll see you,

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 3>and you gonna see me.

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 2>The reason why you're disappointed in Evelyn is because you thought,

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 2>like at least y'all had a respect ball.

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 3>It's a mutual respect, Yeah, a.

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Mutual respect of life because your thing is this, and

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 2>let's have a real conversation.

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Your thing is this.

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 2>You've done reality TV for over at that game. You

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 2>get the game, you get the gig, you know what

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>it is. You knew coming back, y'all gonna talk about

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 2>some ship.

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for it.

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm here for it.

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm cool with it.

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 3>But let's do it civilly because because.

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 2>We have a relationship, Yes, I can see if I

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 2>was no one knew.

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't know you from Adams. We need fulfilled

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>because I'm a stranger to you.

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.959
<v Speaker 2>Yes, for you, it was like I know you, I

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>know you, I love your daughter, I love you.

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 3>You may not even be best of friends or friends

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 3>at all, but just out of a mutual respect, I

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 3>see you and I respect. I'm like, yo, it's you.

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 3>A decade in on TV two. You didn't done Hella shows,

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 3>you didn't done health and done hell of shit. You

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't done hell of things that I know for facts,

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 3>So let's just keep it a buck, right, you know

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, respectfully, but then when you do that

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 3>other dumb shit, that's not okay.

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm mm hmm what okay?

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>So before I get into what happened afterwards, when I say.

0:27:55.400 --> 0:28:00.040
<v Speaker 1>To you, your response to Ever.

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.919
<v Speaker 2>And the girls in regards to the shack rumor in

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 2>question is number one the most mature, sophisticated. But in

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>your face read that we've seen all year, you didn't

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>raise the beauty of it was. You didn't raise your voice,

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 2>you didn't raise an eyebrow, you didn't raise a glass.

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>And I know you very well. You you were so cool, calm,

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>collected one and this is rare.

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent of the audience was on your side.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>And what was interesting about that moment is if it

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>did not go their way obviously, but it also made

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>people be like, oh, we don't know that, Like no,

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>well Laura is saying, it's so godall. And what was

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 2>so interesting about it is that came off the dome.

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Like it wasn't a rehearse.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Read yeah no, like like I didn't know none of

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 3>that was gonna happen. Listen, I always come in with

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 3>my guard up because of where we are in the

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 3>space where I'm in, right, But I didn't think I

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 3>was gonna get that, and I was like, come on, y'all,

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>this is what we're doing. This is where we're at now. Okay, back,

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 3>So as I sat there and listened, and at first

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, should I just tell all y'all about

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 3>yourselves right now? Or should I wait? I wait, but

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give you this though it's none of your

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:43.479
<v Speaker 3>business and it's not it's just not right. Maybe if

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 3>we were thirty, give me twenty five, y'all still immature, right,

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 3>But today you know what else? I don't even want

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 3>to know about. God, I don't even care. Oh on.

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 3>Not only that, I don't even care to you know,

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 3>even if it's my best friend. I'm like, yo, bro,

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 3>you want to ask her. I'll stand right next to

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 3>you if anything pop off. But for now, this is

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 3>not This is not my fight, right like, I'm not

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 3>and I gotta see this girl shit the next couple

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 3>days what we're gonna talk about. So they just kept

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 3>talking about the same thing. Okay, So let me help

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 3>you understand, minions. I don't do that. I don't go

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 3>you guys want to be Shiny's minions. I'm not that

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 3>this is what we're not gonna do. It was so bad,

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 3>even like for those three days, it felt like I

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 3>was there for three months. They were the girls. And

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 3>and here's the crazy part. I love Brook I do.

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 3>I went to her daughter's funeral. We've always communicated dough,

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 3>you know. And and when I say I love, it's

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 3>a respect thing that I love about all of them.

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 3>I love Brandy. I see her cooking show. I'll be

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 3>trying to follow her little recipes. You know I do.

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 3>But I don't do anything in malice. My intent is

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 3>not to harm you in a way of like you know,

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 3>of aggression and be like like that on purpose. So

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 3>for you to do that to me on purpose, but

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 3>put but fight fair, play fair, because you think you

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 3>read me, wait till it's my turn to read you.

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 3>But play fair and hear me out like I heard

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 3>you out, because you're gonna hear everything I gotta say

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 3>because if you're running around here, and I mean Evelyn

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 3>being the spokesperson for Shannie, that's what I didn't appreciate either, right,

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 3>because we had just had a conversation. And again, I

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 3>get what we're doing for TV. We talking about real

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 3>life shit. This is my real life. I've been dealing

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 3>with this bullshit, this life forever. So since you think

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 3>it's funny and a game to you, and it's like

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.479
<v Speaker 3>after I told you a lot of stuff in the car.

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Producers got that tape, they could run it back, right,

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 3>But then you want to sit here and you you

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 3>you number one stunner. Nobody's talking about you, right. What

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>we're doing with the three letter words?

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>You?

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 3>The big three? On every level? We got N B A,

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 3>we got NFL, we got MLB, we got R and B,

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 3>we got L m B, we got that's the Latin.

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 3>We got the H O V. You might as well

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.479
<v Speaker 3>get in your C A R and look away, like

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 3>what are we doing? The H she riding HOV lane,

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Like what are we doing? Nobody's talking about you? Play fair,

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Let's play fair, right, bitch? You can't name three people

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I slept with four facts.

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't even I know you we talk, We're you wrong?

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 3>My relationships are long, they're strong. I don't know I

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 3>can say that, ps ah, but you know what I'm saying, bro,

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm good. Listen right, and when I struggle, I

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 3>struggle from within. I don't let people know. I just do. Mean,

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 3>people have no idea what I've been through in real life,

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 3>and those who do know pray for me, and they

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 3>pray for me hard because I have been through a lot.

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, life ain't like I've been through depression while

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 3>being a mom, while having a wake up every single

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 3>day you have. If I tell you my schedule to date,

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 3>you would be like, what, Like it's still to date.

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 3>I still struggle with things with my ex. Unwarranted, completely unwarranted,

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Like get over it? When do you stop talking about

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 3>me to my ex? When do you stop? Child?

0:33:52.160 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 2>We are just getting started. This is reality with the King,

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>What is the status of your relationship with your ex husband, Gilbert?

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 3>So let's clear this up. We were never married and

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 3>to be before I used to let that slide because

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 3>we were married by law, because it was the ten

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 3>year bla blah bla black because we were together for

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 3>so long. But our relationship today is the same as

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 3>it was twelve years ago. Ten years. Yeah, it's actually

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 3>gotten worse. I know, That's how I feel.

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 2>How do you think I lived this year because I

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 2>was there with you while you were dealing with it.

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when we take the next fifteen, we literally

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 2>follow you having to move out of the house in the.

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you're not gonna bring me down and here,

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:05.800
<v Speaker 3>yeah yes, Oh my god, I remember.

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>It's worse than that.

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Why because now he uses the children,

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 3>because now he now he knows how to manipulate it,

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 3>because he can't directly bother me. Right, so he knows

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 3>how much I love my children. But here's the thing

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 3>he also knows is that I love my children more

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 3>than I hate him, So he attacks the motherhood side

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:39.760
<v Speaker 3>of it. He's just done a lot. He's done a lot.

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 3>He's the devil, is busy at work, and I fight

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 3>it every day, and I even it's so bad that

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I had to tell his new fiance, who I like,

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 3>to tell him to stop talking.

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>About me on his podcast.

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Stop talking about me on your podcast in the shower,

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 3>at chair, at the picnics, at the dinners, at the movies,

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 3>in the car, just be quiet, Just leave me alone.

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 3>And the one thing I have told my children is

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 3>we have to get him out of our house so

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.800
<v Speaker 3>we don't talk about him. There's nothing to talk about,

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 3>and now it's our son. Let's talk about our son,

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 3>who's a megabasketball player right in his own right. I

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 3>want him to have his own name. I don't want

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 3>him to be Yes, you'll always be the son of

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Gilbert A. Reinez. I've never been. And this is also

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 3>something that I feel like. Play fair, Gilbert, playfair. I've

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 3>always given you the title of fatherhood. I've never taken

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 3>it away. Even when the judge said that you couldn't

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 3>have it, I never took it away from you. I

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 3>never took it away from you ever. I don't even

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't even talk bad about you. Never. I just

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 3>I had nothing to say, and people always to date.

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 3>Why don't you tell the truth. Why don't you tell

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 3>them that he really doesn't work his sons out. Let's

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 3>talk about who you really are. Since you want to

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 3>talk so much, it's not fair, and it's not. It's

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 3>hard And people are like, oh my god, it must

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 3>be so much easier now that they're older. No, for me,

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 3>it's not. It's it's harder because now I have to

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 3>tell the truth before I can mask it. I used

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 3>to tell it's funny that the kids my daughter, she

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 3>said to me, Now eighteen at Louisville doing amazing. Oh

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 3>my gosh, she got a full scholarship. One of the

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 3>top ten players in the country. She's phenomenal. My baby lefty,

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 3>I got two lefties. By the way, we'll get into

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 3>the rest. But she is an amazing young woman, amazing.

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 3>And I remember her telling me when she turned eighteen,

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 3>she said, Okay, now that I'm eighteen, you have to

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 3>tell me the truth. Because I always used to tell her,

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 3>I'll wait until you get older. I'll wait until you

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 3>get eighteen, and then I'll tell you the truth. And

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 3>she was like, I want to know. And we sat

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 3>down and we had a lot of cries and a

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 3>lot of laughs. And I don't share just the bad,

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 3>right because that's not real. There's some good in there.

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 3>I have to give them all of it. But at

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.919
<v Speaker 3>one point, you know her words, I was confusing them

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 3>because it seemed like, how could he be this person?

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 3>But then you let us go with him. I had

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:40.760
<v Speaker 3>to answer to that, and my answer was always, he's.

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Your dad, and that's her daughter asking you that.

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 3>We got to keep it one hundred. I'm like, yo,

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 3>you're his daughter, and I tell all the kids we

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 3>gave you in basketball. This is my basketball language. Because

0:38:57.920 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 3>oh and that's another thing. Most people don't even know

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:03.439
<v Speaker 3>I play. I played basketball all my life and I'm

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 3>actually good, and those who know me no, right. But

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 3>and there was two years I led the state of

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 3>California and scoring in high school. I went and played,

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.879
<v Speaker 3>I played overseas. I've done a lot of basketball. I've

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 3>coached on every level basketball coaching. I coach our daughter.

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.720
<v Speaker 3>But even like with our son, our oldest son, Gilbert

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 3>really just came around. I have a trainer that has

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 3>been with the kids for the last five years, who

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:34.240
<v Speaker 3>I now call my son. His name is Zach Basara,

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 3>and he's always with my kids. He's with my kids

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 3>right now as we speak, and he's not just like

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 3>some babysitter, but they're always in the gym and he

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:45.839
<v Speaker 3>trains them, even with Elijah. And the thing that I

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 3>see that is sad for me to watch. He loves

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 3>he loves his father. That's not the sad part that

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>he loves his father, But the sad part is now

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 3>love him now that as a mom, as a mama bear,

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 3>as a as a woman that was with you for

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 3>a really long time. That bothers me when I you know,

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 3>it's so crazy about that day that we packed and

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I packed up all my shit. Do you know we

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.240
<v Speaker 3>slept in the car for two days.

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>You never told me that why we.

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Were in the car for two days. I did not

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 3>call that one person. I could call anybody to get off.

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 3>No hell staying at somebody's house with my four kids.

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, nope. You know what I kept

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 3>saying to myself, I got myself in this mess. I'm

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna get me and my babies out of it. So

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 3>you know what I did. I took all little CDs.

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 3>I put him in the player. They were watching Tom

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Hanks all night, John Candy movies, and we drove around.

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 3>I didn't I had two hundred and seventy one dollars

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:51.839
<v Speaker 3>he left me with and that's what I had. And

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:55.399
<v Speaker 3>we had four trash bags and that's all he would

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 3>let the police, the officer, that's all he let me take.

0:40:58.719 --> 0:40:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I remember that party.

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then he since had given me like an ultimatum,

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 3>you come back, everything would be great. I vowed that

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 3>day that I would never sleep with him, go back

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 3>to him. Nothing. It was over because how can you.

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 3>I knew that there was a checkout he not even

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 3>he and I definitely had checked out because we were

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 3>to fight a couple, right, like we love to fight,

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 3>and then like it was our thing and it kept

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 3>us together for a really long time. But one day

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 3>I just grew up Carlos and I looked at him

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, damn, you're ugly, not even as

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 3>your face, but you're just an ugly person. I had

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 3>lost all my friends, well they weren't my friends anyway,

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:57.240
<v Speaker 3>but I had lost trainers, all off lies.

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 2>They it's because it's a lot. It's because the people

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:05.720
<v Speaker 2>go with the person that.

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, money, yep.

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 3>And you know what's so crazy about that too, is

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 3>that with that being said, they knew the struggle. They

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.320
<v Speaker 3>watched the struggle, and then they were in the struggle

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 3>with him too because they realized, oh, this is this

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.839
<v Speaker 3>is the most narcissistic shit I ever. So they went

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 3>through their own haird trips with him, and then they

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 3>saw but because he would give one hundred thousand dollars

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 3>twenty five thousand dollars to their foundation to who they

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 3>so it was he could do it. And here I

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 3>am offering friendship and realness wasn't enough. So I realized

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:44.240
<v Speaker 3>this is why broke.

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>People, because they'll do anything.

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:51.479
<v Speaker 3>They'll do anything to stay on to figure it out.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 3>So I just don't. It even comes with like people

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 3>with money too, but not as much. So I just don't.

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, Look, there's problems in everything right, every stature

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 3>of every situation. But I'm just not that part of it.

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:08.479
<v Speaker 3>I'm just leaving out.

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you get child support today?

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 3>So here's the thing I do. At first, He's always

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 3>just given me seven thousand a month a month for

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 3>four kids, even as babies. I couldn't find a rental

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 3>for less than like five thousand back in the day.

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Imagine bills. Imagine this. Oh, I was paying for our

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 3>daughter's private school. I was paying for our son's private

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 3>school just for them to stay in it. Our two

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 3>other kids had to go into something else, into a

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 3>community a community school, which was fine. They flourished. I

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 3>made it where it was worth their while. You gonna

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 3>love this watch. We're gonna have a blast. Don't even

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 3>worry about it. But my oldest I couldn't take out

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 3>of school. She had been there for so long, it

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 3>was all she knew so personality wise, I had to

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 3>figure it out. I did everything but prostitution to keep

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 3>them kids where they are today. Everything but and I was.

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>On my way.

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 3>I ain't gonna honey, and like, well, I'm gona sleep

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 3>with you, gonna have to pay me. We at this

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 3>where it's at. But I didn't day for a long

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 3>time because of that, because I had to dive in.

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I had to figure it out. I had to dive in.

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I remember that. I was like, you know, if I

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 3>remember my friend telling me that they made a certain

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 3>amount at norsetrooms and Niemen's selling shoes. I was like,

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I could do that. And I'm a I'm a Mexican

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 3>and Nigerian. I could work. Let's go where we at.

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I've worked all my life. Bring it on. So I

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 3>found the things that worked. But then it's like here

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I am having motherhood and then I got this over

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 3>here trying to he was suing me and taking me

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 3>to court, and oh, let me clear up the court please,

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 3>because he's always saying, how, oh she takes me to court,

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 3>she lost, she lost. That is not how that works, right,

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 3>That's not how our situation worked. Here's how that would work.

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 3>We would go so long in the court, this man

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 3>would take out tapes and be like, look, you you

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 3>were sleeping with you didn't get sit down, sit down, clown.

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 3>We would have to carry it the next the next

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 3>day or whatever day it was that they gave us.

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 3>So we were in court a lot solely because our

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 3>time ran out in the courtroom of the day that

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 3>we had scheduled. So it wasn't like we were just

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 3>going going going. We were, but it was only because

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 3>you talk so much like be quiet, just and state facts,

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 3>just stay facts. And then on top of that, here's

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 3>my thing with child support. I've never been a girl

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 3>who buys bags. I get my clothes for free. You do.

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I get a lot of my.

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Clothes because the impression is this, let's let's talk.

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 3>Here we go.

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're obviously a ten out of a ten. Your

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 2>outfits are a twenty out of a ten. So people

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 2>to seem like, okay, she got the money and all that,

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 2>so how are you able to afford like your luck

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 2>and everything else.

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 3>So a lot of people give me things because they

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 3>want me to wear their clothes, even with bags those

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.399
<v Speaker 3>were gifted. So I don't care about clothes. I don't

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 3>care about things. That's not my thing, right, But like

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 3>I wear trash bag. You ain't gotta know where sh

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 3>it's from. I've shopped at the goodwill. No, let me

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 3>tell you something. I wear old shit, new shit. I

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 3>don't care. I'll make that shit. It's what you wear.

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 3>It's not about what's on, it's how you present it. Right.

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 3>You don't even know what's going on with this hair?

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Do shit look good though?

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 1>In my line? Right?

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 3>But I ain't turning the quarter that way or a

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 3>quarter that But you know what I'm saying, like what

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 3>we doing right? But that's my point. So it's not

0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 3>about oh, like, oh you're clothes, you're this, No, bro,

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 3>I just make shit work, and I do it for

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 3>the sake of the kids. I go always go back

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 3>to my kids. I was gonna sell all that shit,

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 3>my jewelry, rolexes, everything. I was saving all that shit

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 3>for the kids that was gifted to me. I'm not

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 3>going out buying that shit. I don't shop trendy anyway.

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe in that. I never have. I'm not

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 3>showing up with the trendy bag of Louis Vuittone, Gucci.

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 3>All give me something that's worth. If I could sell it,

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:11.919
<v Speaker 3>I can get my money back.

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not a label girl, yeah, I'm just not. I've

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 1>never been.

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm not Gucci down to the socks. Yeah, I would

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 3>never write. So that is why when people see me

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 3>in like, let me tell you today, baby, let me

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 3>tell you today. My boyfriend pays for our daughter to

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 3>go to private school. My boyfriend paid for my daughter

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 3>to get a car. He bought her a brand new car,

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 3>a Tesla. It's nicest. He furnished her entire apartment. He

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 3>pays for training today. And that is why for a

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 3>long time I got off Instagram because I was like,

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 3>you know what's so crazy is that I took this

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 3>really pretty picture and I made it look good. I

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 3>took a makeup off and hair that I had in

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 3>my head and then closed off because I couldn't wait

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 3>to be normal. I couldn't wait. I just do it

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 3>for what it is, right. So I realized that I

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 3>don't want to play this game anymore. I'm exhausted and

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 3>try to look pretty for who I'm looking good for

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:20.359
<v Speaker 3>this house and these kids be like take that off,

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 3>and my son be like, bro, what are you doing?

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Why take them all ugly lashes off them ain't even yours.

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 3>My kids called me all so fast, So I say

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.719
<v Speaker 3>that to say this, I do it for a moment. Yeah,

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 3>it feels good. It feels good to be cute, right,

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 3>But I really like not combing my hair for two days.

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even gonna lie to it. Although I do shower,

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 3>but I really like not getting Can.

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I ask you because when did things get bad with

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:54.280
<v Speaker 2>your ex? Because the think is this, Obviously you guys

0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 2>fell in love, and I'm sure things were great, but

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>like when did things get bad to the point where

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:00.320
<v Speaker 2>it's been like this for day?

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Like do you do you do you remember them?

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Do something happened to where it's like that is the

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 2>reason why things are horrible even today.

0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:12.359
<v Speaker 3>So my story, I'm sure obviously weever. Mych is right

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.919
<v Speaker 3>because he has his own feelings and I honor those.

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't you know whatever you feel like we lived okay,

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.279
<v Speaker 3>because I can't give you what I have right and

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 3>what I remember and what I know. I was miserable.

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:31.879
<v Speaker 3>I had everything Carlos I had. My closet was phenomenal,

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 3>I had beautiful bags, I had jewelry, I had a

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 3>house on my finger I had. I had everything, I

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:44.280
<v Speaker 3>had cars, I can go get whatever, and I had nothing.

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 3>I was so depressed. I was so I was such

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 3>a happy, sad person and it just wasn't okay because

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't be I couldn't. I couldn't continue to live

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:03.840
<v Speaker 3>life like this life or the lie. I was in

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 3>a rat race of trying to be in the social life,

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 3>like I was trying to be a mom. And I quit.

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know, none of this shit matters.

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 3>The only thing that matters are my babies. That's it.

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.320
<v Speaker 3>And even then I still felt like I was feeling.

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 3>So it took me to a place of I call

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 3>it quiet time. I can't be in quiet time anymore,

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:29.720
<v Speaker 3>so I would talk myself out of quiet time. Quiet

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 3>time for me is a depression state. And it took

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 3>away from me because I cooked for my kids every day.

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 3>But it took away from me cooking, It took away

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:41.920
<v Speaker 3>from me being out with them. We're outdoorsy. My kids

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:46.720
<v Speaker 3>never even had a TV until maybe this year. Never

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:49.799
<v Speaker 3>they didn't have TVs in their room. We had two

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 3>TVs in all our houses and all our homes. And

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:54.360
<v Speaker 3>when I say all our homes, because I was moving

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 3>every year because I had to. I was in a

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 3>rental every year, and I couldn't get anohing. My credit

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 3>was so up. My life was in shambles. I was

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 3>writing from friends who had properties that they could just

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 3>loan me, like rent out to me with my babies.

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 3>I remember there were times when I could I had

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:14.840
<v Speaker 3>to figure out if I had to get I was like, bro, okay,

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 3>if I get I got one hundred dollars, I'm gonna

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 3>do fifty on food for what we're gonna eat for

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 3>like two days, and I'm gonna do fifty on gas.

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:28.240
<v Speaker 3>This is real life shit. I remember going to court

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:32.399
<v Speaker 3>on an emergency hearing and the judge this little white lady,

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 3>and she said to him, you're a bad man. And

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.959
<v Speaker 3>I thought to myself, I'm never gonna win. My kids

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:41.919
<v Speaker 3>are never gonna win, and I'm not gonna allow these

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 3>the state and people who are up there judging me,

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 3>because they were just sitting there judging, looking looking at us,

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:50.400
<v Speaker 3>like these two they're thinking that, oh, she's just getting

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:53.840
<v Speaker 3>money somehow. I'm like, bro, I'm trying to feed my kids.

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:57.359
<v Speaker 3>This is a this is my real life. So while

0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 3>you up there, you get to go home to your

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:01.399
<v Speaker 3>pretty little home. I'm trying to figure out where we're

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:05.839
<v Speaker 3>gonna sleep tonight. That was real shit for me. And

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 3>so those are the things that bother me when he

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:15.359
<v Speaker 3>still comes for me to date, leave me alone. And

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 3>that's why I thought, Okay, if I don't say anything,

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:19.880
<v Speaker 3>if I just stay quiet, because I don't say anything,

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 3>if I he'll he'll go away. He ain't going away. God, damn,

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:30.319
<v Speaker 3>aren't you tired? When do you run out of things

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 3>to say? I'm like, damn, I mean, you gonna talk

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 3>about the same shit, and then just recently you make

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.400
<v Speaker 3>fun of having to pay me from the seven thousand,

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:39.879
<v Speaker 3>the day our daughter turned eighteen. Let's talk about real

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 3>life shit. Let's talk about the fact that not only

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:45.959
<v Speaker 3>did you do that, you bumped it to six six

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 3>thousand and immediately was doing shit immediately and then has

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 3>and then makes fun. Buys them all these lavish things, right,

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:58.320
<v Speaker 3>but things that aren't needed for them. They don't need chains.

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:00.439
<v Speaker 3>My side had a chain with diamonds and we doing

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 3>how about you pay for his school? How about that?

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 3>How about you not buy them a go cart? About

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:14.560
<v Speaker 3>how about you buy them shoes? It's not fair play. Fair.

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:18.760
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, because it's really about the children.

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 3>He keeps talking about nil and oh all she wants

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 3>is nil deals for our son. No, baby, I did

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 3>one nil, a multimillion dollar deal in nil. You're giving

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 3>him infomercials with free water for free because it only

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:39.799
<v Speaker 3>benefits you. That don't benefit my son. I'm trying to

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 3>make sure he's good for the rest of his life.

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Right this say mean I gave birth to him. I

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:50.399
<v Speaker 3>gave him the nuts he has, right, I gave him

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:54.880
<v Speaker 3>the face he has. We gave him the DNA, which

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I just said. I I always tell him, I can't

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 3>give you the heart. You gotta do everything else on

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 3>your own. But I'm gonna show you the way I'm

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:04.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna teach you. Right. I educate them on finances. I've

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:06.800
<v Speaker 3>learned so much in the last few years about finance.

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.479
<v Speaker 3>I teach him about real life. We have real life

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 3>conversations because I want a good family. I want a

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.120
<v Speaker 3>good structure. I want to get home and I want

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:18.280
<v Speaker 3>them to be able to come home without malage, feeling

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 3>some type of way. Do you know what my kids

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 3>have to do living? They damn there live two different lives.

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.880
<v Speaker 3>But they barely say him, and when they do, I

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 3>get the whole Daddy. You know that's my dad, Like

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 3>it's so, I never take it away. Play fair, play fair.

0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I have not done that much to you that you

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.600
<v Speaker 3>just keep going. And since you want to keep talking

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:44.880
<v Speaker 3>with him too, you want to keep talking about the

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Shaquille shit. You turn around, you tell all these people

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:51.319
<v Speaker 3>that he meets people in other countries, telling them that

0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:54.400
<v Speaker 3>I slept with their husbands. Let's clean up the Tamar rumor.

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:59.879
<v Speaker 3>Let's go there that I slept with Vince. What we're doing?

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 3>You meet up with her?

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 1>How about all came about?

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 3>That's how that all happened. First of all, I don't

0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:10.360
<v Speaker 3>even know him like that. I was at the montage.

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:14.440
<v Speaker 3>I guess apparently he was at the montage. I shown him. Okay,

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 3>so if we're going to talk about some shit, let's

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 3>really talk about some shit, right. So, since you want

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.440
<v Speaker 3>to talk to Shannie about Shaquille and all this and that,

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of interesting because as soon as that stuff happened,

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:27.319
<v Speaker 3>I remember you coming home, racing home to have sex

0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:29.319
<v Speaker 3>with me and tell me how much you love me.

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:33.240
<v Speaker 3>And you didn't even believe that because you knew the truth,

0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:36.319
<v Speaker 3>but since you want to be so childish like the

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 3>rest and jump on bandwagons. But do you know what

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean bandwagons? I could jump on you know what

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean? People I could talk to and tell and

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 3>tell a real story about real life who you were

0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 3>and the things you did to me. But I just

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 3>don't because guess what I want to get over this?

0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 3>This is not it like bruh, I do not want

0:55:57.640 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 3>to talk about you, and I don't.

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 1>No, you really don't even on the show. You never

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 1>really did.

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 2>And since we're clear things up, there's this rumor that

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Drea slept with your acts with Gilbert, and Gilbert said

0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:19.360
<v Speaker 2>on his podcast, I believe he was with Nick Young.

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Did you see that story where he pretty much talked

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:26.360
<v Speaker 2>about what Drea was doing the backseat and all that stuff.

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.759
<v Speaker 2>We have to say to that about you, Drea and

0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 2>the Gilbert thing.

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 3>So here's what I would say about that. Let me

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.399
<v Speaker 3>clean that up, because people were like, oh my god,

0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Lord's just a bully even ten years ago, like, oh,

0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 3>she's a bully, she's bullying her. So Gilbert told me

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 3>that story about Drea. He had a lot to say,

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 3>And I remember in the context, I think we had

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:49.319
<v Speaker 3>broken up, and he was like, well, this is what

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 3>I did, right, Like, I messed with this girl from

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 3>Philly and it was this this, and that she only

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 3>in the car and blah blah blah. One must well

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 3>say that besides I'm young. I'm like, we're young, you know.

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:06.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, we were we weren't together. What do

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:08.200
<v Speaker 3>you want me to say. I'm not gonna tell you

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 3>what I was. Okay, Well that's what we're doing, okay.

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 3>And so at the time they brought her on Basketball Wives,

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Dre was brought on Basketball Wives as a friend. If

0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:24.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm not mistaken to my sister, I remember if that

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 3>was it. And guess what. I liked her because I

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh shit, I like this chick, Like she's

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 3>how cool? She funny. I had no idea that she

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.840
<v Speaker 3>was there being Gilbert's jump off. I had no idea.

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 3>So then when I found out it was when I

0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:42.880
<v Speaker 3>was going through some papers at the house and I

0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 3>saw that he had given her twenty five thousand dollars

0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:50.320
<v Speaker 3>and brought her to La. Let me tell you what

0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 3>I did, Miss Laura Govan, the bad girl at the time, rightfully,

0:57:57.200 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 3>So you tell me if you think I'm you know

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 3>I love you.

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, you don't care anyway.

0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I remember finding the paper. I remember calling my friend

0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 3>and telling her to pick up the kids for me

0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 3>because she was on the emergency. I remember that, and

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:19.560
<v Speaker 3>I remember going to where she was filming here in Hollywood,

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 3>down the street. I remember showing up and I was

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.240
<v Speaker 3>not supposed to be filming, and I walked past everybody

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:31.080
<v Speaker 3>and I beat her and it did not air. They

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:32.120
<v Speaker 3>did not want that to air.

0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:34.440
<v Speaker 1>You beat up.

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 3>I beat Andrea. I think if I picked her up

0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:42.480
<v Speaker 3>by her collar bone and threw her and then I

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:45.000
<v Speaker 3>spit on her and I was trying to get to

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 3>her even after that. Am I proud of those things?

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not. But what you're not gonna do is be

0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:56.000
<v Speaker 3>my friend. Don't be in my face. And from what

0:58:56.080 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 3>I heard you was the time. So I'm like, what

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 3>am I supposed to do with this? You helped me

0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 3>help you? Where am I? Where were we supposed to

0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 3>go with this? Because everything at the time I told you,

0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:13.720
<v Speaker 3>anybody could get it. We don't. Ever, I never have

0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 3>a problem too. We have a problem. We got a problem,

0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:20.760
<v Speaker 3>and you're in my face though and I was her friend.

0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm like back, you know, she used to do my

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:28.240
<v Speaker 3>quotes on my Instagram and tweets. She used to be like, no, no, no,

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 3>take that off, do this. I liked her, so you

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:35.320
<v Speaker 3>do me like this. I'm gonna do you like that.

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 2>So you're saying, while Drea and you were on the

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:43.760
<v Speaker 2>show together, and y'all were developing this friendship, and she's

0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:47.920
<v Speaker 2>in your face, y'all coolest shit all the while she

0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 2>is sleeping with your man facts, knowing that that's your

0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 2>man facts.

0:59:58.280 --> 1:00:01.000
<v Speaker 3>And so what am I supposed to do with this

1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:05.720
<v Speaker 3>besides beat you up? At the time, I didn't know

1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:09.360
<v Speaker 3>how to use my words. I just knew how to

1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:16.600
<v Speaker 3>use hands. You're gonna get them, and I gave them

1:00:16.720 --> 1:00:20.080
<v Speaker 3>and it was not good. And I remember the producers

1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:23.240
<v Speaker 3>they all dropped they shit and was just like yo, Loura.

1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 3>It took like four people to get me off of

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:30.520
<v Speaker 3>her grown ass men, and I just showed up. I

1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:32.640
<v Speaker 3>think I had on. I think I had on chunk class.

1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 3>I think I wouldn't. I wasn't even there for the

1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:38.320
<v Speaker 3>party I came out. I don't even know what my hair.

1:00:38.360 --> 1:00:40.320
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even I don't know I don't even remember.

1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:42.800
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know it wasn't right. I didn't even

1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:45.280
<v Speaker 3>have on make I didn't get I remember I parked

1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:48.919
<v Speaker 3>in the front, double parked. It just hopped out, hopped out,

1:00:50.440 --> 1:00:52.520
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't even ask where she was. I just

1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:55.600
<v Speaker 3>went around looking for her because I didn't want nobody

1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:58.040
<v Speaker 3>to say nothing to me. Nobody's gonna stop this from

1:00:58.040 --> 1:01:01.600
<v Speaker 3>what's happening. Nobody, not even you, sir.

1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:03.840
<v Speaker 1>No. So what happened after that, in terms of you

1:01:03.880 --> 1:01:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and I hear.

1:01:05.080 --> 1:01:08.080
<v Speaker 3>They kept her away from me. They kept her away

1:01:08.120 --> 1:01:08.360
<v Speaker 3>from me.

1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Was there ever a woman to a woman talk where

1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:15.160
<v Speaker 2>she apologized to you, admitted to it.

1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:18.000
<v Speaker 3>I saw her at Jamie fox house at an event

1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:24.120
<v Speaker 3>that I threw at his house and shout out to

1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Jamie Fox. Jamie really really helped me. There were two people.

1:01:28.440 --> 1:01:29.880
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna get back to this story, but there were

1:01:29.920 --> 1:01:33.280
<v Speaker 3>two people who really really helped me. Three people, four people.

1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Tory Hart mm hmm.

1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I love her. She's a sweetheart.

1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Tory Heart. Lorna Kyle Cedric, the entertainer's wife. I'm talking

1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:49.560
<v Speaker 3>about my best friends today. Marie from my spin class.

1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:52.320
<v Speaker 3>She's my teacher Voltage. She used to have prayer sessions

1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:58.200
<v Speaker 3>with me and Jamie. Now I've known Eric I'm calling

1:01:58.240 --> 1:02:01.720
<v Speaker 3>by his government name for a long time. I met

1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:03.880
<v Speaker 3>him in Oakland. He was doing a paramount show. He's

1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:06.920
<v Speaker 3>always been in our family somehow, always close, and I

1:02:07.000 --> 1:02:12.959
<v Speaker 3>remember him helping me without saying anything, and he just knew.

1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:14.640
<v Speaker 3>He was like, yo, if you ever need anything, you

1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:17.600
<v Speaker 3>can always throw events at my house. And at the

1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:20.240
<v Speaker 3>time I didn't understand. But one day it clicked and

1:02:20.320 --> 1:02:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I would throw events at his house like and I did.

1:02:24.680 --> 1:02:27.080
<v Speaker 3>The only thing we would do is like studios. So

1:02:27.120 --> 1:02:30.600
<v Speaker 3>we would do screenings, movie screenings at his home and

1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:32.200
<v Speaker 3>he would let me use it. Now he'd give me

1:02:32.240 --> 1:02:36.760
<v Speaker 3>the check. So because I was hurt, I was hurting,

1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:41.240
<v Speaker 3>like with these kids, I was hurting. My daughter school

1:02:41.240 --> 1:02:47.000
<v Speaker 3>at the time was like crazy, like it was a lot.

1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:53.600
<v Speaker 3>But back to the Drea thing. She showed up at

1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:58.680
<v Speaker 3>the event and I remember her walking. She saw me walking.

1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:00.800
<v Speaker 3>We were walking on the same side, and I remember

1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:03.320
<v Speaker 3>her going like this all the way around and her

1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:05.600
<v Speaker 3>little friends. I saw them all just like and they

1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:11.240
<v Speaker 3>were like, oh shit, Carlos. Anytime I saw her, she

1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:18.160
<v Speaker 3>was gonna get it. Anytime. Grocery store Church, she was

1:03:18.200 --> 1:03:23.880
<v Speaker 3>getting it. My feelings were so hurt because you were

1:03:23.920 --> 1:03:25.640
<v Speaker 3>my friends. So when it looked like on the reunion

1:03:25.640 --> 1:03:27.720
<v Speaker 3>we were bullying her, there was a lot that was

1:03:27.760 --> 1:03:30.400
<v Speaker 3>said that wasn't aired, and I was like, why are

1:03:30.440 --> 1:03:35.080
<v Speaker 3>y'all doing this? Why aren't y'all telling the truth? Basketball

1:03:35.120 --> 1:03:38.240
<v Speaker 3>wives also has their own story that they want to tell.

1:03:38.840 --> 1:03:41.320
<v Speaker 3>So that's why I'm really also careful how I use

1:03:41.400 --> 1:03:45.840
<v Speaker 3>my words right, like you know TV. Like That's another

1:03:45.880 --> 1:03:50.800
<v Speaker 3>reason why even with Shani, when I tell my story

1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:53.840
<v Speaker 3>and when I tell your story, is it going to

1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:57.600
<v Speaker 3>be aired? I gotta I gotta go do the work

1:03:57.640 --> 1:04:01.560
<v Speaker 3>and tell the truth, like what we're doing? Play fair?

1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:06.160
<v Speaker 3>You want to talk about my shit, let's talk about

1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:08.600
<v Speaker 3>your shit? What are supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 1>So tell this day? Would you? What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about her? Would you?

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<v Speaker 3>So? Let me tell you something I really actually like

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<v Speaker 3>about Drea. I love her hustle and you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I like that she turned around her whoism to make

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<v Speaker 3>it work for her. She's still a hoe, but I

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<v Speaker 3>like it. I respect it respectfully. I love it. Not

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<v Speaker 3>to say that girls should go out and be a hoe.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what I'm saying I'm saying for her and

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<v Speaker 3>her situation and how she still keeps it going. What

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do, I'm not gonna stop you from doing you,

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<v Speaker 3>but I respect it like I'm not should if I

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<v Speaker 3>what the had, I knew the shit she done, even

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<v Speaker 3>with her having a baby. With the baby, be right, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>it takes two although regardless of what he knows and

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<v Speaker 3>what he's doing, although she knows what she got and

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<v Speaker 3>what she's doing, none of my business. That's a conversation

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<v Speaker 3>you have with him, not with the world, right, none

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<v Speaker 3>of my business. So again do I respect that? No,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a mom. So if I see my son forty

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<v Speaker 3>year old and having a baby with her and then

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<v Speaker 3>having to take care of her, that's not gonna sit

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<v Speaker 3>well with me. But here's my other thing, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>discussed this with my children. You have plan B at

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<v Speaker 3>the store, and I have planed C at home.

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<v Speaker 1>What's planning to at home?

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<v Speaker 3>None of your business, Carlos.

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<v Speaker 2>It just hit me because earlier you said thank God

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<v Speaker 2>for my son's girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I like her, and I do like her, no at all. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say to.

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<v Speaker 2>You, I now get it, because unfortunately you could you

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<v Speaker 2>could have somebody in their forties try to date your side.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had somebody in their thirties try to date my

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen year old son.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen grown men and grown women do some weirdo shit,

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<v Speaker 3>some weird shit, brom But let me say this though.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing. In her defense, As you get older

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<v Speaker 3>and we're older, right, even if you're twenty year old,

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<v Speaker 3>that shit kind of I would assume it'll make you

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<v Speaker 3>feel good. You know, I don't plan on it, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I just feel like it gives you an ego,

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<v Speaker 3>like oh shit, you know what I'm saying, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>still got it, got it, I still got it, and

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<v Speaker 3>she do. I remember when she got her body done.

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<v Speaker 3>I got my body done. I remember. I tell people

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, and I talk about it. I've done

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to my face. And I say yet because I

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<v Speaker 3>know at some point I hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't that's out now. I'm your friend. Look, look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the look. Please please please, I want listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Your face card is American Express Platinum Edition.

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<v Speaker 3>You say it, They're gonna be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not translate on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I'm telling you in person, I'm really pretty right, your.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact, true story. Listen, this is so like doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I was meeting her outside to bring her in and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the middle of Hollywood Boulevard like this, where

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<v Speaker 2>is she? I see this beautiful warm man from a distance.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, who is this beautiful? Is she lat Tina? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>This woman? Is that breed from selling sus like?

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<v Speaker 2>I kept like thinking, and she said to me, why

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<v Speaker 2>are you staring at me? I'm like, no, do not

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<v Speaker 2>touch your face.

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<v Speaker 3>I want I want butt. Okay, one day, not today,

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<v Speaker 3>no time, but one day I know something gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the mean time, I've had a Mimi makeover.

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<v Speaker 3>I talk about it all the time, and then people

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<v Speaker 3>always ask me like, oh, somebody asked me recently if

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<v Speaker 3>I've done ozempic and I was like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>have not. But let me say this because I always

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<v Speaker 3>anytime anybody asked me about weight, I always I have

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<v Speaker 3>to give them the truth, right, my truth, which is

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a stress weight person. Right. So I've always been

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<v Speaker 3>small always, I've always had a tiny, strong body. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know why I'm so strong. Legs arms connect, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because when people hit you gotta anyway okay, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>very I'm really strong, right, So it's when I tell

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<v Speaker 3>people about the weight, I'm like, yo, Honestly, if I

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<v Speaker 3>don't eat for five days, which is just fasting, just

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<v Speaker 3>fast for me, I get rid of all the shit,

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<v Speaker 3>my body, my blood, everything right, and I do certain

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<v Speaker 3>things but it works for me. But what works for

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<v Speaker 3>me is not going to work for you. So I

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<v Speaker 3>can't help. I can't. It's like so even Ozimbic. First

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<v Speaker 3>of all, I'm not doing nothing. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>to spell like that. Oh and the Z and I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not, you know, It's just I know some people

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<v Speaker 3>who need it, but I don't. I haven't. Listen, we have,

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't had that conversation with him anyway. I say

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<v Speaker 3>that to say this though, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>what works for me doesn't work for you, So I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't preach that to people. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so listen, in this new stage in your life,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a new man.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the athlete?

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<v Speaker 3>No, okay, there's nothing wrong with athletes. No, no, no, And

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't go back into that life. And here's

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<v Speaker 3>the other thing. I think all athletes get bad raps too,

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<v Speaker 3>because all are not the same. They're just not everybody

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<v Speaker 3>has a problem. Okay, I got five brothers. I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>a whole bunch of shit, right, just based off normal life,

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<v Speaker 3>normal job, normal everybody gets their own shit. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>that do you want to do shit with And I

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<v Speaker 3>tell my daughters this, do you want to have problems

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<v Speaker 3>with money? Or do you want to have problems broke?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not to say for the man, but that's just.

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<v Speaker 2>For them, because there's a difference between problems and rich problems.

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<v Speaker 3>And I told and I choose my daughters how to

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<v Speaker 3>get money. The one thing that is Oakland in me

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<v Speaker 3>is hustle. We could get down on some hustle. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's with jobs. That's with being smart. That's what businesses,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what being an entrepreneur. That's just with just thinking

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<v Speaker 3>like there's always money to be made. One thing I've

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<v Speaker 3>never worried about, although I was struggling at a for

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<v Speaker 3>some time because I was immature and I couldn't figure

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<v Speaker 3>it out. I couldn't. I just didn't open my mind

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<v Speaker 3>to things, and I struggled. But once I started to

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<v Speaker 3>process that, you know, there was even a time that

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that I would get back with him, although

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<v Speaker 3>I knew, I was like, in my heart of heart,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never going to I still was accepting it, going

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<v Speaker 3>to go back, because I was broke, broke with these kids,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, damn, life is easier with him

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<v Speaker 3>in it. It was easier with the rich problems. But

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<v Speaker 3>the problems that I had with the rich guy were

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<v Speaker 3>it was it was too much for me as a person.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I just it wasn't in me. Maybe if

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't have kids, I could still sustain it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was getting drained and pull everybody was suck it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the kids him. It was just a lot. I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't do it. I was like, brother, so no.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad you're happy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Last question, everybody wants to know this. Yes, will you

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<v Speaker 2>be feature on the upcoming season of Basketball Wives?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so. Regardless of what you say, I think so. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a direct message. Thanks Lord Govon. You are still legendary.

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<v Speaker 2>You have always been legendary, and I'm so happy you're

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<v Speaker 2>able to let the world know the real you.

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<v Speaker 1>And the words of the world. Welcome back, bitch, say

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<v Speaker 1>let's don't you go nowhere?

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