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Speaker 1: Welc up to Reality the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos kings the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 1: Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap

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Speaker 2: our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we

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Speaker 1: About rain drops.

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Speaker 2: We are here with my friend Okay, she's a friend

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Speaker 2: of mine for over a decade.

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Speaker 1: I love her. We were just talking earlier.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, Seriously, she's aging backwards, aging backwards. She looks twenty

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Speaker 2: years younger. She's always been in battie. She has a

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Speaker 2: potty mouth, but if you know her, her heart is

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Speaker 2: pure gold. Give it up for the beautiful legion of

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Speaker 2: reality television. She outdresses any girl on television backs Laura Govin.

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Speaker 1: How are you baby?

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Speaker 3: I'm so good?

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Speaker 2: You look okay, no shade, what's his secret? Is it

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Speaker 2: alkaline water? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Like? What is it? You look amazing?

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Speaker 3: So it's for sure good, that's right. And then after

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Speaker 3: it's creams right and then say less oil always does

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Speaker 3: the trick.

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Speaker 1: Wait, coconut oil.

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Speaker 3: Were from head to toe baby on me and him?

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, coconut oil. We'll just be slipping the sign. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's good. Life is good.

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Speaker 2: I have not seen this happy ever because when I

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Speaker 2: met you, he was going through a divorce and the

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Speaker 2: custody battle, separation, all that stuff. So this is the

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Speaker 2: first time, and this is real, tea. This is the

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Speaker 2: first time in our friendship that I see you glowing.

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Speaker 3: Oh thanks, bab I didn't glow before you. Listen you

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Speaker 3: you you're naturally gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: But I'm being very honest with you. It was like

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Speaker 2: this cloud. I mean, listen, you were going through something

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Speaker 2: so horrific in your relationship that any woman would have

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Speaker 2: a hint of darkness bring over them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's so crazy too. In all of

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Speaker 3: my TV life, I have always been authentic and myself

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Speaker 3: The biggest problem I've always had is that I can't

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Speaker 3: fake that. Like I gave you what I was at

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Speaker 3: the time. If I wasn't happy, you saw I wasn't happy.

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Speaker 3: If I wasn't if I was miserable, I gave you

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Speaker 3: because it just it's hard. I'm from Oakland. I can't

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Speaker 3: fake it. It's just it is what it is, like bro, like, nah,

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Speaker 3: we're going in today. Today is the day that she

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Speaker 3: gonna get it. Whoever. And it was based off of

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Speaker 3: and I didn't have any control. I was really immature.

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Speaker 3: I was. I was just for the moment. And however

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about this because you are from Oakland.

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Speaker 2: Your April Latina, correct, your father's black, your mother's Latin.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay. Do you have how many siblings?

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Speaker 3: So there's nine of us. I have five brothers and

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Speaker 3: it was something about I just didn't really like my sisters.

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Speaker 3: I always rocked with my brothers cause they like hooped,

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: They always talk shit, nobody took nothing personal, so like

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Speaker 3: Like I really learn how to fight. I'm not into

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Speaker 2: So you being this girl growing up with eight siblings,

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Speaker 2: I can relate to that my parents before my mom

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Speaker 1: I'm number five out of ten. Okay, so I know.

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Speaker 1: From big family, I'm right in the middle. Right.

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Speaker 2: So I know, coming from a big family, you always

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Speaker 1: Find your identity.

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Speaker 2: What was your identity having three sisters and five brothers, So.

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Speaker 3: For me, honestly, I had I'm third to the last,

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Speaker 3: so I was the seventh baby. I took care of

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Speaker 3: my younger brother and sister. Like Lonnie and Gloria, I

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Speaker 3: shouldn't say that, but they had all of us, but

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Speaker 3: at a young age, I was put on this planet

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Speaker 3: I used to have weekend school with them. I took

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Speaker 3: owned jazz venues, my mom was and they were both

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Speaker 3: wanting a little Mermaid birthday party, and so I stole

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Speaker 3: I was holding a Hella tight and I had it scooped,

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Speaker 3: was crazy because the officer ended up taking me home

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Speaker 3: and yeah, go anyway, long story, and I yep, And

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Speaker 3: they took me home and my dad was like, nah,

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Speaker 3: you need to she needs to sit in that car

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Speaker 3: for a little bit. I need her to never be

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Speaker 3: in this position again. And I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: But everything I did was for my brother and sister.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I would remember going to Lucky in the Bay Area

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Speaker 3: and that was our grocery store, and I would go

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Speaker 3: a full backpack, just to take care of them.

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Speaker 2: So what is your relationship like now with Gloria because

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Speaker 2: we saw you too on the show. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 2: there did appear to be some sort of like I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: sisters go through the stuff. We see that with the Kardashians.

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Speaker 2: But what is your relationship like now with her? Because

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Speaker 2: what we did see was like a little bit of friction.

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Speaker 3: Our relationship now is we're sisters. Listen. Our kids are

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Speaker 3: beautiful together. I would never in a million years take

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Speaker 3: they love each other. I love them. They're she has

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Speaker 3: beautiful she has a beautiful family, great kids. They're amazing

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Speaker 3: and they're my kids, best friends. So it's beautiful to

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Speaker 3: watch it's cousins. That's something that I knew that regardless

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Speaker 3: of her and our relationship, I would never take that away.

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Speaker 3: And so I make sure that it's you know, it's

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Speaker 3: with that. So as an auntie and as far as

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Speaker 3: she and I, I mean, we've always just coexisted. If

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Speaker 3: we're keeping it a buck a little girls, no no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: no no no. So when hm, So what really happened

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Speaker 3: is a family matter happened, and it was a nasty one,

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Speaker 3: and it was something that for me I could say

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Speaker 3: with her, I'm in a good space today than I

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Speaker 1: And what year this founding matter happened?

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Speaker 3: It happened, Honestly, it happened early. It happened. When I

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Speaker 3: say early, I mean, shoot, I think I was twenty.

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Speaker 3: I think I was twenty and I just turned forty.

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Speaker 1: Five, So twenty five years ago this happened.

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Speaker 3: So twenty five years ago, maybe even sooner maybe when yeah, twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five years ago, and ever since then, things have never

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Speaker 3: No really, yeah, no, I will always be her sister,

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Speaker 3: and I will always love her as a sister. Like

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Speaker 3: let me tell you, you're not gonna come in here

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Speaker 3: my sister. It's still gonna go all the way down.

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Speaker 3: But when we're in a room, we're good, Like we

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Speaker 3: don't have no beef, there's no friction. We'll laugh when

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Speaker 3: you see this. We actually are working on a spin

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Speaker 3: off from a show, and we'll see what happens. But

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Speaker 3: I want to keep it a thousand, like I'm yo.

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Speaker 3: The older I get, the worse my brain to my

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Speaker 3: mouth comes like whatever, I just say, what go on?

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Speaker 3: You've always been that woman, though it's gotten worse.

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Speaker 2: So I want to tell the story because when we

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Speaker 2: were doing The Next fifteen, even prior to that, I've

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Speaker 2: always been obsessed with you, and I remember telling you

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Speaker 2: like there is something about your family.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. It's giving me.

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Speaker 2: Kardashian, one of your brothers who I was able to meet,

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Speaker 2: is like, y'all think she's gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: No, he's so hot.

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Speaker 1: Brother is like so cute, gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've seen bitches walk in the walls for him.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like them. Yeah, but let's be Claire.

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Speaker 2: Your mom and dad are five till like nor your

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Speaker 2: father's like daddy.

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Speaker 3: So girl still be trying to get him. Yo, he's

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Speaker 3: so crazy, don't you know?

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Speaker 1: It's gorgeous my mom. Yeah, and your mom is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: No, your fact, your whole family's like stunningly gorgeous. So

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Speaker 2: long story short, I'm telling my friend Laura, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with the go I want to do something.

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Speaker 1: Long story shirt. You probably remember this, maybe you do.

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Speaker 2: I said I want to do something with you guys,

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Speaker 2: and you said, okay, let me talk to my sister.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked how quiet Gloria was. I was shocked,

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Speaker 2: What's happening? So you talk about being this mama bear.

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Speaker 2: You had that presence even still. So as you two

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Speaker 3: I would say it's not the I wouldn't use the

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Speaker 3: I think in family, a lot of people let shit

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Speaker 3: And guess what, we're fucking older now, I got some shit.

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you, bitch, you're a person on

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Speaker 3: so many levels. And guess what, it's okay now because

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Speaker 3: I don't want you today. That's why it makes it okay.

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Speaker 3: But it also is that. And I told her, I said,

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Speaker 3: my god, I can't even say that without crying. That

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Speaker 3: where you now because you don't want to take any accountability,

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Speaker 3: you put the blame and then you act like it's

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Speaker 3: all okay, Well guess what it's not, bitch, So there

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Speaker 1: I would like for you to clear up a rumor. Okay, please,

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Speaker 1: One thing about you.

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Speaker 2: You are very protective of people you love, Yes, and

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's at the expense of your own reputation. Facts,

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Speaker 2: there's rumors that there's an athlete that you were accused.

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Speaker 1: Of being with.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's just come on.

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Speaker 2: There's rumors that you had sex with Shack. And the

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Speaker 2: rumor is you never had sex with Shack, but your

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Speaker 3: So here's what I would say about that. Here's what

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Speaker 1: What do you mean by you'll give Shannie some of her?

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Speaker 3: Well, because she thought that me coming back on Basketball

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Speaker 3: like because she had me ambushed. You saw it, everybody

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Speaker 3: so let me, we want to just read something from

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Speaker 3: It wasn't even like Matthew's twenty eighteen. It was like

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Speaker 3: from her narrating some shit. Well, bitch, I'll show you, okay,

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Speaker 3: bet So, since you feel like you wanted to vomit

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Speaker 3: you about you. Since you want to talk about me,

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Speaker 3: let's just we're gonna keep it a buck a thousand

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Speaker 2: There's rumors that you have been blocked from being on

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Speaker 3: So I had we had DMed each other. Shawnie actually

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Speaker 3: me this year in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: she DM me this year, and my response was, I

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Speaker 3: I'll let you see it. But I just remember being like, yeah, cool,

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Speaker 3: Like that's what's up. Like because I see her, our

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Speaker 3: and so I had to. We would see each other

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't care, like I'm always gonna be myself.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like when she walks past me. You know,

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Speaker 3: The producers reached out. It was a whole process. But

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Speaker 3: I'm not getting secondhand bullshit.

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Speaker 1: I don't and listen. I want to.

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Speaker 2: I want to corroborate your story because obviously is my

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Speaker 3: She didn't create Basketball Wives La. That's not true. She

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Speaker 3: All the interviews were taken at my house in Arenda

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Speaker 3: And then when we told them, because I told my sister,

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Speaker 3: So and Once I realized that part, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: then I'm not even sure if my sister stayed. But

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Speaker 3: But where we are today, it is what it is

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Speaker 3: so like when I show up now and from Oh

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Speaker 3: and this is another rumor that I hear so allegedly Gilbert.

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Speaker 3: She's talking to Gilbert who is she Shannie all the time,

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Speaker 3: But they're talking, and what was said was that he

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Speaker 2: When you came back to do basketball lives, were you

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for a scene to me or Shannie

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Speaker 1: couldn't wait.

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Speaker 3: I was like this every day, like key she walking

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Speaker 3: in any minute, whe's coming. No come? Okay? Back next day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No come. I was like, we got two more days

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Speaker 3: was like, what's happening? Where are you at? No show?

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Speaker 2: So when Evelyn conveniently brought the excerpt of a book

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Speaker 3: Casture, come on, keep coming.

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Speaker 1: In your heart of hearts?

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Speaker 2: Do you believe Evelyn was sent by Shawnee to bring

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Speaker 3: I think it. I felt it was to be embarrassed.

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Speaker 3: I felt it was to be ambushed if you were

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Speaker 3: okay for people who just saw it. I was living it.

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Speaker 3: I was in it, and it was an ambush. And

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Speaker 3: Everybody would have got hands. To date, everybody's gonna get

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Speaker 3: this mouth. That's where I'm at. So when they commenced

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Speaker 3: no problem, keep it coming, because what you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: do is get them. I'm not gonna I'm older now,

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Speaker 3: I'm much more mature. I don't do telephone. So I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna tell you anything, first of all, especially you

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Speaker 3: meaning Evelyn or anybody at that table, what really happened

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Speaker 3: because I actually told Evelyn some shit in the car

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Speaker 3: when I would see her. But what I didn't like

435
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 3: is how messy she made it. You didn't have to

436
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: do that. You could have been like yo, ell, let

437
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: me how er at you real quick, because that's where

438
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 3: I thought we were. Regardless if you're her friend or not,

439
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: you still being a messy bitch is another thing. But

440
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: you being a woman and being like yo, her coming

441
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: at you like that, yeah, I don't really did. But

442
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 3: let me give it to you how I'm gonna give

443
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: it to you. You know what I'm saying, Come at

444
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 3: me like that, not like here it is. Here's the cookies,

445
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 3: eat them? Oh yeah, well how about we talk about

446
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: your cookies too, since you want to be up here

447
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: talking about who I slept with? Who'd you sleep with?

448
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: Since we're talking? But those are things that I'm gonna

449
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: address with her when I get back on that show,

450
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 3: since you don't want to do it when I see

451
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 3: you at Whole Foods, and since you don't want to

452
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: do it when I see you in Porter Ranch anymore,

453
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: since you avoided me at Whole Foods. I saw you

454
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 3: doing this behind the clerk at the counter, moving as

455
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: they moved, as I was trying to move to see you,

456
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: but I had so many eggs. I was actually gonna

457
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 3: come over, but I didn't. And it's okay. I think

458
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: it was for the best. We'll leave it at that.

459
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: So you are you Just keep it up. Buck Carlos.

460
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: And our fathers. The section she was at, we.

461
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: Were both here's what's crazy we and this is a

462
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: real story. Tell me if it ain't, Miss Evelyn. We

463
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: were both at the line checking out. She's with the person,

464
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm with the person. Her person is here, but she's

465
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: in front. My person is here and I'm in back,

466
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 3: so we're right. So as I'm going like this, I

467
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: could see her moving with the clerk as the clerk,

468
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: and I was like, damn, biblehead, say less. But I'll

469
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: see you. I see you all the time, actually, but

470
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: usually it's in the current passing. But I'll see you,

471
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 3: and you gonna see me.

472
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: The reason why you're disappointed in Evelyn is because you thought,

473
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: like at least y'all had a respect ball.

474
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: It's a mutual respect, Yeah, a.

475
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: Mutual respect of life because your thing is this, and

476
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: let's have a real conversation.

477
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: Your thing is this.

478
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: You've done reality TV for over at that game. You

479
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: get the game, you get the gig, you know what

480
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: it is. You knew coming back, y'all gonna talk about

481
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: some ship.

482
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm here for it.

483
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 3: I'm here for it.

484
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it.

485
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: But let's do it civilly because because.

486
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: We have a relationship, Yes, I can see if I

487
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: was no one knew.

488
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know you from Adams. We need fulfilled

489
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: because I'm a stranger to you.

490
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 2: Yes, for you, it was like I know you, I

491
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: know you, I love your daughter, I love you.

492
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: You may not even be best of friends or friends

493
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: at all, but just out of a mutual respect, I

494
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: see you and I respect. I'm like, yo, it's you.

495
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: A decade in on TV two. You didn't done Hella shows,

496
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: you didn't done health and done hell of shit. You

497
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: didn't done hell of things that I know for facts,

498
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: So let's just keep it a buck, right, you know

499
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, respectfully, but then when you do that

500
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: other dumb shit, that's not okay.

501
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm what okay?

502
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: So before I get into what happened afterwards, when I say.

503
00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: To you, your response to Ever.

504
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: And the girls in regards to the shack rumor in

505
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: question is number one the most mature, sophisticated. But in

506
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: your face read that we've seen all year, you didn't

507
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: raise the beauty of it was. You didn't raise your voice,

508
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: you didn't raise an eyebrow, you didn't raise a glass.

509
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: And I know you very well. You you were so cool, calm,

510
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: collected one and this is rare.

511
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: One hundred percent of the audience was on your side.

512
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: And what was interesting about that moment is if it

513
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: did not go their way obviously, but it also made

514
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: people be like, oh, we don't know that, Like no,

515
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: well Laura is saying, it's so godall. And what was

516
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: so interesting about it is that came off the dome.

517
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't a rehearse.

518
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: Read yeah no, like like I didn't know none of

519
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: that was gonna happen. Listen, I always come in with

520
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: my guard up because of where we are in the

521
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: space where I'm in, right, But I didn't think I

522
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: was gonna get that, and I was like, come on, y'all,

523
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: this is what we're doing. This is where we're at now. Okay, back,

524
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: So as I sat there and listened, and at first

525
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: I was thinking, should I just tell all y'all about

526
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: yourselves right now? Or should I wait? I wait, but

527
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you this though it's none of your

528
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 3: business and it's not it's just not right. Maybe if

529
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: we were thirty, give me twenty five, y'all still immature, right,

530
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: But today you know what else? I don't even want

531
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: to know about. God, I don't even care. Oh on.

532
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: Not only that, I don't even care to you know,

533
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: even if it's my best friend. I'm like, yo, bro,

534
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: you want to ask her. I'll stand right next to

535
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: you if anything pop off. But for now, this is

536
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: not This is not my fight, right like, I'm not

537
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: and I gotta see this girl shit the next couple

538
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: days what we're gonna talk about. So they just kept

539
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: talking about the same thing. Okay, So let me help

540
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: you understand, minions. I don't do that. I don't go

541
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: you guys want to be Shiny's minions. I'm not that

542
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: this is what we're not gonna do. It was so bad,

543
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: even like for those three days, it felt like I

544
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: was there for three months. They were the girls. And

545
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: and here's the crazy part. I love Brook I do.

546
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: I went to her daughter's funeral. We've always communicated dough,

547
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: you know. And and when I say I love, it's

548
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: a respect thing that I love about all of them.

549
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: I love Brandy. I see her cooking show. I'll be

550
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: trying to follow her little recipes. You know I do.

551
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: But I don't do anything in malice. My intent is

552
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: not to harm you in a way of like you know,

553
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: of aggression and be like like that on purpose. So

554
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: for you to do that to me on purpose, but

555
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: put but fight fair, play fair, because you think you

556
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: read me, wait till it's my turn to read you.

557
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: But play fair and hear me out like I heard

558
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: you out, because you're gonna hear everything I gotta say

559
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: because if you're running around here, and I mean Evelyn

560
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: being the spokesperson for Shannie, that's what I didn't appreciate either, right,

561
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: because we had just had a conversation. And again, I

562
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: get what we're doing for TV. We talking about real

563
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: life shit. This is my real life. I've been dealing

564
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: with this bullshit, this life forever. So since you think

565
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: it's funny and a game to you, and it's like

566
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 3: after I told you a lot of stuff in the car.

567
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: Producers got that tape, they could run it back, right,

568
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: But then you want to sit here and you you

569
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: you number one stunner. Nobody's talking about you, right. What

570
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: we're doing with the three letter words?

571
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: You?

572
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: The big three? On every level? We got N B A,

573
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: we got NFL, we got MLB, we got R and B,

574
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: we got L m B, we got that's the Latin.

575
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: We got the H O V. You might as well

576
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 3: get in your C A R and look away, like

577
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: what are we doing? The H she riding HOV lane,

578
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: Like what are we doing? Nobody's talking about you? Play fair,

579
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: Let's play fair, right, bitch? You can't name three people

580
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: I slept with four facts.

581
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: I can't even I know you we talk, We're you wrong?

582
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: I can't.

583
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: My relationships are long, they're strong. I don't know I

584
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: can say that, ps ah, but you know what I'm saying, bro,

585
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm I'm good. Listen right, and when I struggle, I

586
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: struggle from within. I don't let people know. I just do. Mean,

587
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: people have no idea what I've been through in real life,

588
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: and those who do know pray for me, and they

589
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: pray for me hard because I have been through a lot.

590
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: You know, life ain't like I've been through depression while

591
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: being a mom, while having a wake up every single

592
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: day you have. If I tell you my schedule to date,

593
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: you would be like, what, Like it's still to date.

594
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: I still struggle with things with my ex. Unwarranted, completely unwarranted,

595
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: Like get over it? When do you stop talking about

596
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: me to my ex? When do you stop? Child?

597
00:33:52,160 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: We are just getting started. This is reality with the King,

598
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

599
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: What is the status of your relationship with your ex husband, Gilbert?

600
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 3: So let's clear this up. We were never married and

601
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: to be before I used to let that slide because

602
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: we were married by law, because it was the ten

603
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: year bla blah bla black because we were together for

604
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: so long. But our relationship today is the same as

605
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: it was twelve years ago. Ten years. Yeah, it's actually

606
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: gotten worse. I know, That's how I feel.

607
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: How do you think I lived this year because I

608
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: was there with you while you were dealing with it.

609
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: I mean, when we take the next fifteen, we literally

610
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: follow you having to move out of the house in the.

611
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're not gonna bring me down and here,

612
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 3: yeah yes, Oh my god, I remember.

613
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: It's worse than that.

614
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Why because now he uses the children,

615
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: because now he now he knows how to manipulate it,

616
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: because he can't directly bother me. Right, so he knows

617
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: how much I love my children. But here's the thing

618
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: he also knows is that I love my children more

619
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: than I hate him, So he attacks the motherhood side

620
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 3: of it. He's just done a lot. He's done a lot.

621
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: He's the devil, is busy at work, and I fight

622
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: it every day, and I even it's so bad that

623
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: I had to tell his new fiance, who I like,

624
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: to tell him to stop talking.

625
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: About me on his podcast.

626
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: Stop talking about me on your podcast in the shower,

627
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: at chair, at the picnics, at the dinners, at the movies,

628
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: in the car, just be quiet, Just leave me alone.

629
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: And the one thing I have told my children is

630
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: we have to get him out of our house so

631
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 3: we don't talk about him. There's nothing to talk about,

632
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: and now it's our son. Let's talk about our son,

633
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: who's a megabasketball player right in his own right. I

634
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: want him to have his own name. I don't want

635
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: him to be Yes, you'll always be the son of

636
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: Gilbert A. Reinez. I've never been. And this is also

637
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: something that I feel like. Play fair, Gilbert, playfair. I've

638
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: always given you the title of fatherhood. I've never taken

639
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 3: it away. Even when the judge said that you couldn't

640
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: have it, I never took it away from you. I

641
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: never took it away from you ever. I don't even

642
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even talk bad about you. Never. I just

643
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: I had nothing to say, and people always to date.

644
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: Why don't you tell the truth. Why don't you tell

645
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: them that he really doesn't work his sons out. Let's

646
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: talk about who you really are. Since you want to

647
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 3: talk so much, it's not fair, and it's not. It's

648
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: hard And people are like, oh my god, it must

649
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: be so much easier now that they're older. No, for me,

650
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: it's not. It's it's harder because now I have to

651
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: tell the truth before I can mask it. I used

652
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: to tell it's funny that the kids my daughter, she

653
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: said to me, Now eighteen at Louisville doing amazing. Oh

654
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: my gosh, she got a full scholarship. One of the

655
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: top ten players in the country. She's phenomenal. My baby lefty,

656
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: I got two lefties. By the way, we'll get into

657
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: the rest. But she is an amazing young woman, amazing.

658
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: And I remember her telling me when she turned eighteen,

659
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: she said, Okay, now that I'm eighteen, you have to

660
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: tell me the truth. Because I always used to tell her,

661
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 3: I'll wait until you get older. I'll wait until you

662
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: get eighteen, and then I'll tell you the truth. And

663
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: she was like, I want to know. And we sat

664
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: down and we had a lot of cries and a

665
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: lot of laughs. And I don't share just the bad,

666
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: right because that's not real. There's some good in there.

667
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: I have to give them all of it. But at

668
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 3: one point, you know her words, I was confusing them

669
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: because it seemed like, how could he be this person?

670
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: But then you let us go with him. I had

671
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: to answer to that, and my answer was always, he's.

672
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: Your dad, and that's her daughter asking you that.

673
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: We got to keep it one hundred. I'm like, yo,

674
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: you're his daughter, and I tell all the kids we

675
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: gave you in basketball. This is my basketball language. Because

676
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: oh and that's another thing. Most people don't even know

677
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 3: I play. I played basketball all my life and I'm

678
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: actually good, and those who know me no, right. But

679
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: and there was two years I led the state of

680
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: California and scoring in high school. I went and played,

681
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 3: I played overseas. I've done a lot of basketball. I've

682
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: coached on every level basketball coaching. I coach our daughter.

683
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: But even like with our son, our oldest son, Gilbert

684
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: really just came around. I have a trainer that has

685
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: been with the kids for the last five years, who

686
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 3: I now call my son. His name is Zach Basara,

687
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: and he's always with my kids. He's with my kids

688
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: right now as we speak, and he's not just like

689
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: some babysitter, but they're always in the gym and he

690
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: trains them, even with Elijah. And the thing that I

691
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: see that is sad for me to watch. He loves

692
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: he loves his father. That's not the sad part that

693
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: he loves his father, But the sad part is now

694
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: love him now that as a mom, as a mama bear,

695
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: as a as a woman that was with you for

696
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: a really long time. That bothers me when I you know,

697
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: it's so crazy about that day that we packed and

698
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: I packed up all my shit. Do you know we

699
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 3: slept in the car for two days.

700
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: You never told me that why we.

701
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: Were in the car for two days. I did not

702
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 3: call that one person. I could call anybody to get off.

703
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: No hell staying at somebody's house with my four kids.

704
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: And I was like, nope. You know what I kept

705
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: saying to myself, I got myself in this mess. I'm

706
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: gonna get me and my babies out of it. So

707
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: you know what I did. I took all little CDs.

708
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 3: I put him in the player. They were watching Tom

709
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: Hanks all night, John Candy movies, and we drove around.

710
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: I didn't I had two hundred and seventy one dollars

711
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: he left me with and that's what I had. And

712
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 3: we had four trash bags and that's all he would

713
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: let the police, the officer, that's all he let me take.

714
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: I remember that party.

715
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he since had given me like an ultimatum,

716
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: you come back, everything would be great. I vowed that

717
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: day that I would never sleep with him, go back

718
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: to him. Nothing. It was over because how can you.

719
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: I knew that there was a checkout he not even

720
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: he and I definitely had checked out because we were

721
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: to fight a couple, right, like we love to fight,

722
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: and then like it was our thing and it kept

723
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: us together for a really long time. But one day

724
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: I just grew up Carlos and I looked at him

725
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: and I was like, damn, you're ugly, not even as

726
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: your face, but you're just an ugly person. I had

727
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: lost all my friends, well they weren't my friends anyway,

728
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 3: but I had lost trainers, all off lies.

729
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: They it's because it's a lot. It's because the people

730
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: go with the person that.

731
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, money, yep.

732
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: And you know what's so crazy about that too, is

733
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: that with that being said, they knew the struggle. They

734
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 3: watched the struggle, and then they were in the struggle

735
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 3: with him too because they realized, oh, this is this

736
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 3: is the most narcissistic shit I ever. So they went

737
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: through their own haird trips with him, and then they

738
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: saw but because he would give one hundred thousand dollars

739
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand dollars to their foundation to who they

740
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: so it was he could do it. And here I

741
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: am offering friendship and realness wasn't enough. So I realized

742
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 3: this is why broke.

743
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: People, because they'll do anything.

744
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 3: They'll do anything to stay on to figure it out.

745
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: So I just don't. It even comes with like people

746
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: with money too, but not as much. So I just don't.

747
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: You know, Look, there's problems in everything right, every stature

748
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: of every situation. But I'm just not that part of it.

749
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 3: I'm just leaving out.

750
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: Do you get child support today?

751
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: So here's the thing I do. At first, He's always

752
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: just given me seven thousand a month a month for

753
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: four kids, even as babies. I couldn't find a rental

754
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: for less than like five thousand back in the day.

755
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: Imagine bills. Imagine this. Oh, I was paying for our

756
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: daughter's private school. I was paying for our son's private

757
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: school just for them to stay in it. Our two

758
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: other kids had to go into something else, into a

759
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: community a community school, which was fine. They flourished. I

760
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: made it where it was worth their while. You gonna

761
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: love this watch. We're gonna have a blast. Don't even

762
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: worry about it. But my oldest I couldn't take out

763
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: of school. She had been there for so long, it

764
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: was all she knew so personality wise, I had to

765
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: figure it out. I did everything but prostitution to keep

766
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: them kids where they are today. Everything but and I was.

767
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: On my way.

768
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna honey, and like, well, I'm gona sleep

769
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: with you, gonna have to pay me. We at this

770
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: where it's at. But I didn't day for a long

771
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: time because of that, because I had to dive in.

772
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: I had to figure it out. I had to dive in.

773
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: I remember that. I was like, you know, if I

774
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: remember my friend telling me that they made a certain

775
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: amount at norsetrooms and Niemen's selling shoes. I was like,

776
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: I could do that. And I'm a I'm a Mexican

777
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: and Nigerian. I could work. Let's go where we at.

778
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: I've worked all my life. Bring it on. So I

779
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 3: found the things that worked. But then it's like here

780
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: I am having motherhood and then I got this over

781
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: here trying to he was suing me and taking me

782
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: to court, and oh, let me clear up the court please,

783
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: because he's always saying, how, oh she takes me to court,

784
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: she lost, she lost. That is not how that works, right,

785
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: That's not how our situation worked. Here's how that would work.

786
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: We would go so long in the court, this man

787
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: would take out tapes and be like, look, you you

788
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: were sleeping with you didn't get sit down, sit down, clown.

789
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: We would have to carry it the next the next

790
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: day or whatever day it was that they gave us.

791
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: So we were in court a lot solely because our

792
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: time ran out in the courtroom of the day that

793
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: we had scheduled. So it wasn't like we were just

794
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: going going going. We were, but it was only because

795
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: you talk so much like be quiet, just and state facts,

796
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: just stay facts. And then on top of that, here's

797
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: my thing with child support. I've never been a girl

798
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: who buys bags. I get my clothes for free. You do.

799
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 3: I get a lot of my.

800
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: Clothes because the impression is this, let's let's talk.

801
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: Here we go.

802
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're obviously a ten out of a ten. Your

803
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: outfits are a twenty out of a ten. So people

804
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: to seem like, okay, she got the money and all that,

805
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: so how are you able to afford like your luck

806
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: and everything else.

807
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: So a lot of people give me things because they

808
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: want me to wear their clothes, even with bags those

809
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 3: were gifted. So I don't care about clothes. I don't

810
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: care about things. That's not my thing, right, But like

811
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 3: I wear trash bag. You ain't gotta know where sh

812
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: it's from. I've shopped at the goodwill. No, let me

813
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: tell you something. I wear old shit, new shit. I

814
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: don't care. I'll make that shit. It's what you wear.

815
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: It's not about what's on, it's how you present it. Right.

816
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: You don't even know what's going on with this hair?

817
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 3: Do shit look good though?

818
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: In my line? Right?

819
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: But I ain't turning the quarter that way or a

820
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: quarter that But you know what I'm saying, like what

821
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: we doing right? But that's my point. So it's not

822
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: about oh, like, oh you're clothes, you're this, No, bro,

823
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: I just make shit work, and I do it for

824
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: the sake of the kids. I go always go back

825
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: to my kids. I was gonna sell all that shit,

826
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: my jewelry, rolexes, everything. I was saving all that shit

827
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: for the kids that was gifted to me. I'm not

828
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: going out buying that shit. I don't shop trendy anyway.

829
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: I don't believe in that. I never have. I'm not

830
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: showing up with the trendy bag of Louis Vuittone, Gucci.

831
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: All give me something that's worth. If I could sell it,

832
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 3: I can get my money back.

833
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: You're not a label girl, yeah, I'm just not. I've

834
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: never been.

835
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: I'm not Gucci down to the socks. Yeah, I would

836
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: never write. So that is why when people see me

837
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: in like, let me tell you today, baby, let me

838
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: tell you today. My boyfriend pays for our daughter to

839
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: go to private school. My boyfriend paid for my daughter

840
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: to get a car. He bought her a brand new car,

841
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: a Tesla. It's nicest. He furnished her entire apartment. He

842
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: pays for training today. And that is why for a

843
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 3: long time I got off Instagram because I was like,

844
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: you know what's so crazy is that I took this

845
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: really pretty picture and I made it look good. I

846
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: took a makeup off and hair that I had in

847
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: my head and then closed off because I couldn't wait

848
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: to be normal. I couldn't wait. I just do it

849
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: for what it is, right. So I realized that I

850
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: don't want to play this game anymore. I'm exhausted and

851
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: try to look pretty for who I'm looking good for

852
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 3: this house and these kids be like take that off,

853
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 3: and my son be like, bro, what are you doing?

854
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 3: Why take them all ugly lashes off them ain't even yours.

855
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: My kids called me all so fast, So I say

856
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: that to say this, I do it for a moment. Yeah,

857
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: it feels good. It feels good to be cute, right,

858
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: But I really like not combing my hair for two days.

859
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna lie to it. Although I do shower,

860
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: but I really like not getting Can.

861
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: I ask you because when did things get bad with

862
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: your ex? Because the think is this, Obviously you guys

863
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: fell in love, and I'm sure things were great, but

864
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: like when did things get bad to the point where

865
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 2: it's been like this for day?

866
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: Like do you do you do you remember them?

867
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: Like?

868
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: Do something happened to where it's like that is the

869
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: reason why things are horrible even today.

870
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 3: So my story, I'm sure obviously weever. Mych is right

871
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 3: because he has his own feelings and I honor those.

872
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: I don't you know whatever you feel like we lived okay,

873
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: because I can't give you what I have right and

874
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: what I remember and what I know. I was miserable.

875
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 3: I had everything Carlos I had. My closet was phenomenal,

876
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: I had beautiful bags, I had jewelry, I had a

877
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 3: house on my finger I had. I had everything, I

878
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: had cars, I can go get whatever, and I had nothing.

879
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: I was so depressed. I was so I was such

880
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: a happy, sad person and it just wasn't okay because

881
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 3: I couldn't be I couldn't. I couldn't continue to live

882
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 3: life like this life or the lie. I was in

883
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: a rat race of trying to be in the social life,

884
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: like I was trying to be a mom. And I quit.

885
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, none of this shit matters.

886
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: The only thing that matters are my babies. That's it.

887
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 3: And even then I still felt like I was feeling.

888
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: So it took me to a place of I call

889
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: it quiet time. I can't be in quiet time anymore,

890
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 3: so I would talk myself out of quiet time. Quiet

891
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: time for me is a depression state. And it took

892
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: away from me because I cooked for my kids every day.

893
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: But it took away from me cooking, It took away

894
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: from me being out with them. We're outdoorsy. My kids

895
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 3: never even had a TV until maybe this year. Never

896
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 3: they didn't have TVs in their room. We had two

897
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: TVs in all our houses and all our homes. And

898
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: when I say all our homes, because I was moving

899
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: every year because I had to. I was in a

900
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: rental every year, and I couldn't get anohing. My credit

901
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: was so up. My life was in shambles. I was

902
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: writing from friends who had properties that they could just

903
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: loan me, like rent out to me with my babies.

904
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 3: I remember there were times when I could I had

905
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: to figure out if I had to get I was like, bro, okay,

906
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: if I get I got one hundred dollars, I'm gonna

907
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: do fifty on food for what we're gonna eat for

908
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: like two days, and I'm gonna do fifty on gas.

909
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 3: This is real life shit. I remember going to court

910
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 3: on an emergency hearing and the judge this little white lady,

911
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: and she said to him, you're a bad man. And

912
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 3: I thought to myself, I'm never gonna win. My kids

913
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 3: are never gonna win, and I'm not gonna allow these

914
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: the state and people who are up there judging me,

915
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: because they were just sitting there judging, looking looking at us,

916
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 3: like these two they're thinking that, oh, she's just getting

917
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 3: money somehow. I'm like, bro, I'm trying to feed my kids.

918
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: This is a this is my real life. So while

919
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: you up there, you get to go home to your

920
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 3: pretty little home. I'm trying to figure out where we're

921
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 3: gonna sleep tonight. That was real shit for me. And

922
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: so those are the things that bother me when he

923
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 3: still comes for me to date, leave me alone. And

924
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: that's why I thought, Okay, if I don't say anything,

925
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: if I just stay quiet, because I don't say anything,

926
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 3: if I he'll he'll go away. He ain't going away. God, damn,

927
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: aren't you tired? When do you run out of things

928
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: to say? I'm like, damn, I mean, you gonna talk

929
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: about the same shit, and then just recently you make

930
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 3: fun of having to pay me from the seven thousand,

931
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 3: the day our daughter turned eighteen. Let's talk about real

932
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: life shit. Let's talk about the fact that not only

933
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 3: did you do that, you bumped it to six six

934
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: thousand and immediately was doing shit immediately and then has

935
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: and then makes fun. Buys them all these lavish things, right,

936
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 3: but things that aren't needed for them. They don't need chains.

937
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 3: My side had a chain with diamonds and we doing

938
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: how about you pay for his school? How about that?

939
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: How about you not buy them a go cart? About

940
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: how about you buy them shoes? It's not fair play. Fair.

941
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because it's really about the children.

942
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: He keeps talking about nil and oh all she wants

943
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: is nil deals for our son. No, baby, I did

944
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: one nil, a multimillion dollar deal in nil. You're giving

945
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: him infomercials with free water for free because it only

946
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: benefits you. That don't benefit my son. I'm trying to

947
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: make sure he's good for the rest of his life.

948
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: Right this say mean I gave birth to him. I

949
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 3: gave him the nuts he has, right, I gave him

950
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 3: the face he has. We gave him the DNA, which

951
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: I just said. I I always tell him, I can't

952
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: give you the heart. You gotta do everything else on

953
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: your own. But I'm gonna show you the way I'm

954
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: gonna teach you. Right. I educate them on finances. I've

955
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 3: learned so much in the last few years about finance.

956
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,479
Speaker 3: I teach him about real life. We have real life

957
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: conversations because I want a good family. I want a

958
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: good structure. I want to get home and I want

959
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 3: them to be able to come home without malage, feeling

960
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: some type of way. Do you know what my kids

961
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 3: have to do living? They damn there live two different lives.

962
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 3: But they barely say him, and when they do, I

963
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: get the whole Daddy. You know that's my dad, Like

964
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: it's so, I never take it away. Play fair, play fair.

965
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 3: I have not done that much to you that you

966
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: just keep going. And since you want to keep talking

967
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 3: with him too, you want to keep talking about the

968
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: Shaquille shit. You turn around, you tell all these people

969
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 3: that he meets people in other countries, telling them that

970
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 3: I slept with their husbands. Let's clean up the Tamar rumor.

971
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 3: Let's go there that I slept with Vince. What we're doing?

972
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: You meet up with her?

973
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: How about all came about?

974
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: That's how that all happened. First of all, I don't

975
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 3: even know him like that. I was at the montage.

976
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: I guess apparently he was at the montage. I shown him. Okay,

977
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: so if we're going to talk about some shit, let's

978
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: really talk about some shit, right. So, since you want

979
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 3: to talk to Shannie about Shaquille and all this and that,

980
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 3: it's kind of interesting because as soon as that stuff happened,

981
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: I remember you coming home, racing home to have sex

982
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 3: with me and tell me how much you love me.

983
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 3: And you didn't even believe that because you knew the truth,

984
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 3: but since you want to be so childish like the

985
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 3: rest and jump on bandwagons. But do you know what

986
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: I mean bandwagons? I could jump on you know what

987
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: I mean? People I could talk to and tell and

988
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: tell a real story about real life who you were

989
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 3: and the things you did to me. But I just

990
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: don't because guess what I want to get over this?

991
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 3: This is not it like bruh, I do not want

992
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: to talk about you, and I don't.

993
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: No, you really don't even on the show. You never

994
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: really did.

995
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: And since we're clear things up, there's this rumor that

996
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 2: Drea slept with your acts with Gilbert, and Gilbert said

997
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: on his podcast, I believe he was with Nick Young.

998
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 2: Did you see that story where he pretty much talked

999
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: about what Drea was doing the backseat and all that stuff.

1000
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: We have to say to that about you, Drea and

1001
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: the Gilbert thing.

1002
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: So here's what I would say about that. Let me

1003
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 3: clean that up, because people were like, oh my god,

1004
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: Lord's just a bully even ten years ago, like, oh,

1005
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: she's a bully, she's bullying her. So Gilbert told me

1006
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: that story about Drea. He had a lot to say,

1007
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 3: And I remember in the context, I think we had

1008
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 3: broken up, and he was like, well, this is what

1009
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: I did, right, Like, I messed with this girl from

1010
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: Philly and it was this this, and that she only

1011
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 3: in the car and blah blah blah. One must well

1012
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 3: say that besides I'm young. I'm like, we're young, you know.

1013
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, we were we weren't together. What do

1014
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: you want me to say. I'm not gonna tell you

1015
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 3: what I was. Okay, Well that's what we're doing, okay.

1016
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: And so at the time they brought her on Basketball Wives,

1017
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: Dre was brought on Basketball Wives as a friend. If

1018
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken to my sister, I remember if that

1019
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 3: was it. And guess what. I liked her because I

1020
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: was like, oh shit, I like this chick, Like she's

1021
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: how cool? She funny. I had no idea that she

1022
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: was there being Gilbert's jump off. I had no idea.

1023
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: So then when I found out it was when I

1024
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 3: was going through some papers at the house and I

1025
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: saw that he had given her twenty five thousand dollars

1026
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: and brought her to La. Let me tell you what

1027
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 3: I did, Miss Laura Govan, the bad girl at the time, rightfully,

1028
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: So you tell me if you think I'm you know

1029
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 3: I love you.

1030
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you don't care anyway.

1031
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 3: I remember finding the paper. I remember calling my friend

1032
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: and telling her to pick up the kids for me

1033
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: because she was on the emergency. I remember that, and

1034
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: I remember going to where she was filming here in Hollywood,

1035
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 3: down the street. I remember showing up and I was

1036
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 3: not supposed to be filming, and I walked past everybody

1037
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: and I beat her and it did not air. They

1038
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 3: did not want that to air.

1039
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: You beat up.

1040
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: I beat Andrea. I think if I picked her up

1041
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 3: by her collar bone and threw her and then I

1042
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: spit on her and I was trying to get to

1043
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: her even after that. Am I proud of those things?

1044
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. But what you're not gonna do is be

1045
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 3: my friend. Don't be in my face. And from what

1046
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 3: I heard you was the time. So I'm like, what

1047
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 3: am I supposed to do with this? You helped me

1048
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: help you? Where am I? Where were we supposed to

1049
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: go with this? Because everything at the time I told you,

1050
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: anybody could get it. We don't. Ever, I never have

1051
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: a problem too. We have a problem. We got a problem,

1052
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: and you're in my face though and I was her friend.

1053
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm like back, you know, she used to do my

1054
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 3: quotes on my Instagram and tweets. She used to be like, no, no, no,

1055
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: take that off, do this. I liked her, so you

1056
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: do me like this. I'm gonna do you like that.

1057
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: So you're saying, while Drea and you were on the

1058
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: show together, and y'all were developing this friendship, and she's

1059
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: in your face, y'all coolest shit all the while she

1060
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: is sleeping with your man facts, knowing that that's your

1061
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: man facts.

1062
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 3: And so what am I supposed to do with this

1063
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: besides beat you up? At the time, I didn't know

1064
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: how to use my words. I just knew how to

1065
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: use hands. You're gonna get them, and I gave them

1066
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 3: and it was not good. And I remember the producers

1067
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 3: they all dropped they shit and was just like yo, Loura.

1068
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 3: It took like four people to get me off of

1069
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: her grown ass men, and I just showed up. I

1070
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 3: think I had on. I think I had on chunk class.

1071
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: I think I wouldn't. I wasn't even there for the

1072
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: party I came out. I don't even know what my hair.

1073
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: I didn't even I don't know I don't even remember.

1074
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: I know, I know it wasn't right. I didn't even

1075
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 3: have on make I didn't get I remember I parked

1076
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 3: in the front, double parked. It just hopped out, hopped out,

1077
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 3: and I didn't even ask where she was. I just

1078
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 3: went around looking for her because I didn't want nobody

1079
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 3: to say nothing to me. Nobody's gonna stop this from

1080
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: what's happening. Nobody, not even you, sir.

1081
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: No. So what happened after that, in terms of you

1082
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: and I hear.

1083
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: They kept her away from me. They kept her away

1084
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 3: from me.

1085
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: Was there ever a woman to a woman talk where

1086
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: she apologized to you, admitted to it.

1087
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 3: I saw her at Jamie fox house at an event

1088
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: that I threw at his house and shout out to

1089
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: Jamie Fox. Jamie really really helped me. There were two people.

1090
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna get back to this story, but there were

1091
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 3: two people who really really helped me. Three people, four people.

1092
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 3: Tory Hart mm hmm.

1093
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: I love her. She's a sweetheart.

1094
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 3: Tory Heart. Lorna Kyle Cedric, the entertainer's wife. I'm talking

1095
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: about my best friends today. Marie from my spin class.

1096
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: She's my teacher Voltage. She used to have prayer sessions

1097
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 3: with me and Jamie. Now I've known Eric I'm calling

1098
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 3: by his government name for a long time. I met

1099
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: him in Oakland. He was doing a paramount show. He's

1100
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 3: always been in our family somehow, always close, and I

1101
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 3: remember him helping me without saying anything, and he just knew.

1102
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: He was like, yo, if you ever need anything, you

1103
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 3: can always throw events at my house. And at the

1104
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: time I didn't understand. But one day it clicked and

1105
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: I would throw events at his house like and I did.

1106
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 3: The only thing we would do is like studios. So

1107
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: we would do screenings, movie screenings at his home and

1108
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 3: he would let me use it. Now he'd give me

1109
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 3: the check. So because I was hurt, I was hurting,

1110
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 3: like with these kids, I was hurting. My daughter school

1111
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: at the time was like crazy, like it was a lot.

1112
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: But back to the Drea thing. She showed up at

1113
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: the event and I remember her walking. She saw me walking.

1114
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: We were walking on the same side, and I remember

1115
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: her going like this all the way around and her

1116
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 3: little friends. I saw them all just like and they

1117
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 3: were like, oh shit, Carlos. Anytime I saw her, she

1118
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 3: was gonna get it. Anytime. Grocery store Church, she was

1119
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: getting it. My feelings were so hurt because you were

1120
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 3: my friends. So when it looked like on the reunion

1121
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 3: we were bullying her, there was a lot that was

1122
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 3: said that wasn't aired, and I was like, why are

1123
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 3: y'all doing this? Why aren't y'all telling the truth? Basketball

1124
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 3: wives also has their own story that they want to tell.

1125
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm really also careful how I use

1126
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: my words right, like you know TV. Like That's another

1127
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 3: reason why even with Shani, when I tell my story

1128
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 3: and when I tell your story, is it going to

1129
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: be aired? I gotta I gotta go do the work

1130
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 3: and tell the truth, like what we're doing? Play fair?

1131
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 3: You want to talk about my shit, let's talk about

1132
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 3: your shit? What are supposed to do?

1133
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: So tell this day? Would you? What do you think

1134
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: about her? Would you?

1135
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 3: So? Let me tell you something I really actually like

1136
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 3: about Drea. I love her hustle and you know what,

1137
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 3: I like that she turned around her whoism to make

1138
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 3: it work for her. She's still a hoe, but I

1139
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: like it. I respect it respectfully. I love it. Not

1140
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 3: to say that girls should go out and be a hoe.

1141
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 3: That's not what I'm saying I'm saying for her and

1142
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: her situation and how she still keeps it going. What

1143
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do, I'm not gonna stop you from doing you,

1144
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 3: but I respect it like I'm not should if I

1145
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 3: what the had, I knew the shit she done, even

1146
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 3: with her having a baby. With the baby, be right, listen,

1147
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 3: it takes two although regardless of what he knows and

1148
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 3: what he's doing, although she knows what she got and

1149
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 3: what she's doing, none of my business. That's a conversation

1150
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 3: you have with him, not with the world, right, none

1151
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 3: of my business. So again do I respect that? No,

1152
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 3: I'm a mom. So if I see my son forty

1153
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: year old and having a baby with her and then

1154
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 3: having to take care of her, that's not gonna sit

1155
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: well with me. But here's my other thing, and I've

1156
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 3: discussed this with my children. You have plan B at

1157
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 3: the store, and I have planed C at home.

1158
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: What's planning to at home?

1159
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 3: None of your business, Carlos.

1160
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: It just hit me because earlier you said thank God

1161
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: for my son's girlfriend.

1162
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: I like her, and I do like her, no at all. No,

1163
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: I'd say to.

1164
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: You, I now get it, because unfortunately you could you

1165
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 2: could have somebody in their forties try to date your side.

1166
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 3: I've had somebody in their thirties try to date my

1167
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: seventeen year old son.

1168
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

1169
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 3: I've seen grown men and grown women do some weirdo shit,

1170
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: some weird shit, brom But let me say this though.

1171
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. In her defense, As you get older

1172
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 3: and we're older, right, even if you're twenty year old,

1173
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 3: that shit kind of I would assume it'll make you

1174
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: feel good. You know, I don't plan on it, and

1175
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 3: so I just feel like it gives you an ego,

1176
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 3: like oh shit, you know what I'm saying, Like I

1177
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 3: still got it, got it, I still got it, and

1178
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 3: she do. I remember when she got her body done.

1179
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 3: I got my body done. I remember. I tell people

1180
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: all the time, and I talk about it. I've done

1181
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 3: nothing to my face. And I say yet because I

1182
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 3: know at some point I hear you.

1183
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: Don't that's out now. I'm your friend. Look, look, it's

1184
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: just the look. Please please please, I want listen.

1185
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: Your face card is American Express Platinum Edition.

1186
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 3: You say it, They're gonna be like.

1187
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: Whether or not translate on TV.

1188
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm telling you in person, I'm really pretty right, your.

1189
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,959
Speaker 2: Fact, true story. Listen, this is so like doesn't matter.

1190
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: I was meeting her outside to bring her in and

1191
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of Hollywood Boulevard like this, where

1192
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: is she? I see this beautiful warm man from a distance.

1193
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, who is this beautiful? Is she lat Tina? Like?

1194
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: This woman? Is that breed from selling sus like?

1195
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: I kept like thinking, and she said to me, why

1196
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: are you staring at me? I'm like, no, do not

1197
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: touch your face.

1198
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 3: I want I want butt. Okay, one day, not today,

1199
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 3: no time, but one day I know something gonna happen.

1200
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 3: But in the mean time, I've had a Mimi makeover.

1201
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 3: I talk about it all the time, and then people

1202
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 3: always ask me like, oh, somebody asked me recently if

1203
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 3: I've done ozempic and I was like, you know, I

1204
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 3: have not. But let me say this because I always

1205
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: anytime anybody asked me about weight, I always I have

1206
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 3: to give them the truth, right, my truth, which is

1207
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: I'm a stress weight person. Right. So I've always been

1208
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 3: small always, I've always had a tiny, strong body. I

1209
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 3: don't know why I'm so strong. Legs arms connect, you know,

1210
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 3: because when people hit you gotta anyway okay, but I'm

1211
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: very I'm really strong, right, So it's when I tell

1212
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 3: people about the weight, I'm like, yo, Honestly, if I

1213
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 3: don't eat for five days, which is just fasting, just

1214
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 3: fast for me, I get rid of all the shit,

1215
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 3: my body, my blood, everything right, and I do certain

1216
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 3: things but it works for me. But what works for

1217
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 3: me is not going to work for you. So I

1218
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 3: can't help. I can't. It's like so even Ozimbic. First

1219
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 3: of all, I'm not doing nothing. I don't know how

1220
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 3: to spell like that. Oh and the Z and I don't.

1221
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, It's just I know some people

1222
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 3: who need it, but I don't. I haven't. Listen, we have,

1223
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 3: I ain't had that conversation with him anyway. I say

1224
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 3: that to say this though, at the end of the day,

1225
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 3: what works for me doesn't work for you, So I can't.

1226
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 3: So I don't preach that to people. You know what

1227
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1228
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: So, so listen, in this new stage in your life,

1229
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 2: you have a new man.

1230
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: Is the athlete?

1231
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: No, okay, there's nothing wrong with athletes. No, no, no, And

1232
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 3: I just can't go back into that life. And here's

1233
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 3: the other thing. I think all athletes get bad raps too,

1234
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,520
Speaker 3: because all are not the same. They're just not everybody

1235
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 3: has a problem. Okay, I got five brothers. I've seen

1236
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,839
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of shit, right, just based off normal life,

1237
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 3: normal job, normal everybody gets their own shit. It's just

1238
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 3: that do you want to do shit with And I

1239
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 3: tell my daughters this, do you want to have problems

1240
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 3: with money? Or do you want to have problems broke?

1241
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 3: And that's not to say for the man, but that's just.

1242
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: For them, because there's a difference between problems and rich problems.

1243
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 3: And I told and I choose my daughters how to

1244
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 3: get money. The one thing that is Oakland in me

1245
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 3: is hustle. We could get down on some hustle. And

1246
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 3: that's with jobs. That's with being smart. That's what businesses,

1247
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 3: that's what being an entrepreneur. That's just with just thinking

1248
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 3: like there's always money to be made. One thing I've

1249
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 3: never worried about, although I was struggling at a for

1250
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 3: some time because I was immature and I couldn't figure

1251
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 3: it out. I couldn't. I just didn't open my mind

1252
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: to things, and I struggled. But once I started to

1253
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 3: process that, you know, there was even a time that

1254
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 3: I thought that I would get back with him, although

1255
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 3: I knew, I was like, in my heart of heart,

1256
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm never going to I still was accepting it, going

1257
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 3: to go back, because I was broke, broke with these kids,

1258
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: and I was like, damn, life is easier with him

1259
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 3: in it. It was easier with the rich problems. But

1260
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: the problems that I had with the rich guy were

1261
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 3: it was it was too much for me as a person.

1262
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 3: I just I just it wasn't in me. Maybe if

1263
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 3: we didn't have kids, I could still sustain it, but

1264
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 3: I was getting drained and pull everybody was suck it.

1265
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 3: He's the kids him. It was just a lot. I

1266
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 3: couldn't do it. I was like, brother, so no.

1267
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you're happy.

1268
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 3: I'm really happy.

1269
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 2: Last question, everybody wants to know this. Yes, will you

1270
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,839
Speaker 2: be feature on the upcoming season of Basketball Wives?

1271
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 3: I think so. Regardless of what you say, I think so. Sorry.

1272
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: That's a direct message. Thanks Lord Govon. You are still legendary.

1273
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 2: You have always been legendary, and I'm so happy you're

1274
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: able to let the world know the real you.

1275
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: And the words of the world. Welcome back, bitch, say

1276
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 1: let's don't you go nowhere?

1277
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:45,640
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1278
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:52,839
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1279
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Speaker 2: to follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok,

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Speaker 2: and Yes, Baby, my YouTube channel where you could get

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Speaker 2: all of my visuals, baby, my expressions, yes, and don't forget.

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Speaker 2: Tweet me your thoughts and hot takes about this episode

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Speaker 2: using the hashtag Reality with the King. Reality with the

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Speaker 2: King is a production of Kingdom Rain Entertainment, an executive

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Speaker 2: produced by me Carlos King, Kingdom Rain Entertainment, Baby,