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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty one,

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Speaker 1: episode five of Guys production of I Heart Radio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: americans share consciousness. It's Friday, August. Happy birthday to my

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Speaker 1: big sis Shan Shannon. It is, of course, what what

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Speaker 1: what other days are we saying? I mean, maybe we

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Speaker 1: just keep it like that, you know, keep it like

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Speaker 1: it is, Shannon O'Brien. Only one thing that happened today,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I won't even name. Okay, look, it

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Speaker 1: also is National Women's Equality Names. Okay, that's worth shouting

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Speaker 1: out for sure. And they did that because it's Shannon's

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Speaker 1: birthday exactly. Uh, and a couple other things. If you

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Speaker 1: like the cherry popsicles, it's also your days wonderful. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk maybe about another type of popsicle that I

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Speaker 1: don't like. Oh, we'll crought to you by here's a

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Speaker 1: little hit Oscar Meyer. Oh what no, yes, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: They're take me there later to Well. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, a k. There is a pod called t

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack, that old cracked king flippy pooped on bum

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Speaker 1: shout out to Fighter of the Night Man, House of

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Speaker 1: the Rising Sun a k Ay, and I am thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, Mr

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Speaker 1: Miles Grass. That's going on. I feel like my mouth

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Speaker 1: or my throat itch. Oh that's because this itch is

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Speaker 1: Banana's beaty and they and the it is Banana's beat

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Speaker 1: A N A N A s. Shout out to the

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Speaker 1: waffle House, Christian ten and allergy. Look that put those

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Speaker 1: high potassium fruits. Man, get my brooke tingling. And that's

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Speaker 1: again it's weird. I'll always pick the avocad over the banana.

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Speaker 1: If I gotta, I'll get like a bump in my lip.

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Speaker 1: If I like, if I eat a burrito or anything

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Speaker 1: or get guac on my lips, my lips will react.

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Speaker 1: Well you said avocado embanama, right yeah yeah yeah. But

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Speaker 1: I but for whatever reason, like I think it's a

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Speaker 1: little more pronounced with avocado, I powered through because I

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Speaker 1: just love him. So there's that. I get that with

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Speaker 1: a certain melons, let's say. I but I know I

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Speaker 1: know that feeling that like mouth, like my lip got

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Speaker 1: And then it goes down. Yeah, well great, grade ak

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Speaker 1: is Uh. We're thrilled to be joined in our third

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Speaker 1: seat by the very talented activist comedian podcast or Right.

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Speaker 1: It's Derek Limo. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hi. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I am surviving apocalypse? It's just like, you know, being

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Speaker 1: crushed to death by capitalism. Yeah, I love to hear it.

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Speaker 1: And you're in an interesting studio today. Where are you

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Speaker 1: coming to us from? Derek? From work? It's kind of

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Speaker 1: a first I feel like you're working. There's a there's

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Speaker 1: an orientation happening behind you in the in the background. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if there's Yeah, if anybody hears anything, that's that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what's going on. Somebody's getting orientated. Hell yeah. And the

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Speaker 1: person giving the orientation is very Oh it's YouTube, and

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Speaker 1: is the is there a big audience that is getting

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Speaker 1: the orientation or is there a laugh track? Because like

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Speaker 1: they are, they're into the video. I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing all self produced. Oh okay, got it all right.

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Speaker 1: I like an orientation video with a laugh track. I'd

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Speaker 1: be like, I'm gonna quit. We're starting off. It's like

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Speaker 1: it's like we already know how bad orientation videos can

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Speaker 1: be It's like, how can we make this that much worse? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I know sitcom style? Man, there's something about Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: There's something really I was. I'm so bad at like

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Speaker 1: paying attention in an orientation video for whatever reason, or

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Speaker 1: like any time like a company's like, hey, you gotta

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Speaker 1: watch this training on Paola, I'm like, I don't. No

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Speaker 1: one dresses like this, no one talks like this, no

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Speaker 1: one interacts like this. Just fucking send me a bulleted list. Please,

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Speaker 1: you have to have you have to follow these security

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Speaker 1: protocols provided to us by a former massad agent, because

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Speaker 1: there canna be people trying to get the secrets of

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Speaker 1: your insurance company, of your work computer. Yeah, we go.

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Speaker 1: And the secret to passing those tests never pick up

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Speaker 1: a USB drive from the parking lot and put it

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Speaker 1: into your computer. That's the that's the big one that

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. Hackers, they're onto you. You if

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Speaker 1: that's your strategy for infiltrating capitalist companies in America. There

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Speaker 1: There was another like cybersecurity thing that's like, do not

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Speaker 1: keep lists of passwords printed out near your computer? And

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I've seen that ship. I've seen it,

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Speaker 1: my ops seck. Okay, that's actually funny. So I lost

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Speaker 1: I think if that it happened ten years ago, I

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Speaker 1: so like if somebody found it, like congratulations, Yeah, someone's

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Speaker 1: gonna say you owe money if you're try and use

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Speaker 1: those yeah, literally, yeah, good luck trying to use that

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Speaker 1: at home depot. I keep my passwords all tattooed on

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Speaker 1: my torso nowtyle. Yeah, but that's why it's always funny

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Speaker 1: when we go swimming. Jack's like, I can't take my

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Speaker 1: shirt off? Why and he keeps me He says it's

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Speaker 1: because he has all his tattoos passed, like our passwords

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to see my full chest piece.

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Speaker 1: That's just your face. Meet you and me, our faces

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Speaker 1: on babies bodies, on little baby's bodies that we're hugging

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Speaker 1: anime style. All right, well, Derek, we will get to

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Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things

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Speaker 1: we're talking about today, Doctor Oz Baby, the gift that

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Speaker 1: keeps on giving Oz campaign going up against John Fetterman,

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Speaker 1: and he's just an expert in the self ownage cellers truly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: using your own like, not using your opponent's weight against them,

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Speaker 1: using your own everything against yourself, just tripping all over

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Speaker 1: like he he is whatever the jiu jitsu that Mr

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Speaker 1: Bean was a black belt in like that is this man.

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Speaker 1: He can he can trip over himself in new and

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Speaker 1: spectacular fashion. So we will talk about that. We will

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Speaker 1: talk about the gops like stance on like they just

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Speaker 1: all got in line and we're ready to windmill on

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Speaker 1: debt forgiveness. Yesterday they were like, we're back. We can all.

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Speaker 1: If there's one thing we can all agree on as

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Speaker 1: a bunch of Christian nationalists, it's that we like debt,

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Speaker 1: predatory debt. Remember when Jesus came through and embraced the

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Speaker 1: debt collection. Yeah, it was like, yeah, I just gotta

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Speaker 1: all those people like you better pay these people, stop

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Speaker 1: playing with their money. I'm Jesus. That's right. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a direct quote. Yeah, some people say it was

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Malcolm Ladwell's of Big History

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Speaker 1: and sociology, the you're Stevens. Pinker and your Sapiens that

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Speaker 1: you've all Noah Harari I think it's his name. Those

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Speaker 1: and they're full of shit. They're all based on this

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Speaker 1: kind of a kind of a big lie that they're based.

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Speaker 1: Weren't you kind of working with that book at first?

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Speaker 1: Or I know you were reading it, right, you read Sapiens.

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Speaker 1: I read Sapiens. Yeah, say, I mean everybody read say right.

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Speaker 1: Was it off to you at the time of reading it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well it's I read that pinker also. I read because

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Speaker 1: and it was like for this specific thing, I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: if Western civilization has any claim to existence, this one

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Speaker 1: just not true. Like archaeologists are now coming out and

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Speaker 1: modern society and it's like, is that not happening now? Right?

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Speaker 1: Like we got that embody can constantly they make an

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Speaker 1: appeal to statistics, but it's just their their whole thing

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Speaker 1: their whole are meant is is full of ship and

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Speaker 1: it's just but they are the most popular like accounts,

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Speaker 1: and so I don't know, I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about all that plenty more. But first, Derek,

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Speaker 1: getting into TikTok, Like the amount of information on there

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Speaker 1: it's just it's amazing what kind of stuff you've been

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Speaker 1: searching on TikTok. Well, so there's I mean I'm constantly

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Speaker 1: O g oddly satisfying type. Just literally, dude, just like

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Speaker 1: watched like TikTok videos that get bubbled up on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: but there was one where somebody was restoring like stadium

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Speaker 1: Because they're kind of like oxidized, but like yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: and they are they turn like cherry red, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's the wildest things, like how why is that? How? Sign? Man?

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Speaker 1: But apparently, Yeah, that's amazing. It's just like you you're

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Speaker 1: looking at this thing, is how do we fix it?

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Speaker 1: Bringing the flame thrower Joe, like right, exactly, no other

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Speaker 1: scenario with that sentence work. What's a food recipe that

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Speaker 1: you made on TikTok that you're working with? Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean the tomato feto one which was just pretty bad, oh,

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Speaker 1: other day that had like good at cheese, parmesan, roasted tomatoes, garlic, basil,

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Speaker 1: I have, I have so many things Bookmark. The only

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Speaker 1: Newsmax was very welcoming and said, hey, man, if you

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Speaker 1: want come on the show and you can talk about this.

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Speaker 1: You know, crudite, crudeite, fucking flub head on all he says,

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Speaker 1: like the guy sets him up. He's like, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we've had to talk about the Wagner's thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: what do you want to explain to the people, like

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Speaker 1: what that was about? Like such a fucking underhander. And

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Speaker 1: then he gives this answer just for those watching in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: You know how particular many people are about their groceries.

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Speaker 1: What happened with Wegman's and Wagner's. Can you explain that

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Speaker 1: to them? Yeah? I was exhausted. When you're campaigning eighteen

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Speaker 1: hours a day. You've said, I've gotten my kid's names

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Speaker 1: wrong as well. I don't think that's a measure of

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Speaker 1: someone's ability to need the commonwealth. Okay, okay running office?

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Speaker 1: Is he running for governor? No? No, he's running for

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Speaker 1: federal up whatever. You know, I get it, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just I mean, I get it. Rhetoric. Fine. Um,

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Speaker 1: And despite all of that, he still felt the fucking

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Speaker 1: need to have a comeback after being absolutely pound so

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Speaker 1: thoroughly by that whole Like, Yo, this dudn't even know

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Speaker 1: what a veggie tray is. This is what his camp,

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Speaker 1: his senior communication comms advisor came out and said, as

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Speaker 1: a quote to the Press, quote, if John Fetterman had

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Speaker 1: ever eaten a vegetable in his life, then maybe he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have had a major stroke and wouldn't be in

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Speaker 1: the position of having to lie about it constantly. WHOA Okay,

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Speaker 1: very classy move from the campaign. Just go after the

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Speaker 1: man's health and fucking body that that'll pull well as

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Speaker 1: Mr Hollywood doctor just giving out unsolicited advice from your campaign.

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Speaker 1: So this has now compounded the issue because a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are like, oh, why did you even why

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Speaker 1: did you even try to be like, yo, this dude

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Speaker 1: at a fucking stroke, he's so sloppy with it. They're like,

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Speaker 1: that's not a fucking response anyway. So now he's officially

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Speaker 1: in double digit l territory. The latest polling has him

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Speaker 1: down thirteen points, and only of Republicans said that they

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Speaker 1: plan on voting for yeah, because they're like, this guy

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Speaker 1: is not a fucking Republican and he doesn't understand Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: And he did try and go back to news backs

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Speaker 1: again because all of these stories have you know, we

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Speaker 1: we saw last week Mitch McConnell was saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we were going to win the

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Speaker 1: Senate necessarily because we have a candidate quality issue. And

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Speaker 1: that was pretty much directed at Doctor Oz, probably J D.

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Speaker 1: Vans a few other people, but like it's clear when

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Speaker 1: asking like those are the sort of big fucking els

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Speaker 1: that are sort of on the horizon. And so Oz

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Speaker 1: goes on Newsmax again and the host there was like

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Speaker 1: he wasn't talking about you, right, It's like he was

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Speaker 1: talking about you. But this is how Dr Oz tries

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Speaker 1: to spend the low quality candidate fucking talking point. Well,

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Speaker 1: I tell you, I've been talking to him continually, and

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Speaker 1: what the point he was trying to make, I think

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Speaker 1: is that it matters that we're high quality. But he's

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Speaker 1: put thirty four million dollars into my campaign. Wait huh.

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Speaker 1: The point he was trying to make is that we're

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Speaker 1: high quality. He said, we have we have a quality

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Speaker 1: candidate quality problem. This is what he said. This is

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Speaker 1: this is Mitch McConnell's words, just so you know, this

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Speaker 1: is what he said in terms. This is the counter

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Speaker 1: quality has wanted to do with the outcom when they said, wait,

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Speaker 1: so why not we how come we're not gonna take

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Speaker 1: the Senate quality candidate. And that's what he means. He means,

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Speaker 1: we've got to be quality. That's what I think. What

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Speaker 1: he what he was trying to say is we got

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Speaker 1: it matters that I'm high quality. No, I don't think

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Speaker 1: someone's asking why you're losing. And he said, Canadate quality, sir,

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Speaker 1: the best, and he goes, he gave me all this money.

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Speaker 1: And they're the right wing media speares doing everything they

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Speaker 1: can to prop this guy up, Like Hannity was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna sue John Fetterman because he's a liar. That's

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Speaker 1: none of this ship is working. He went on Maria

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Speaker 1: bar to Romo show again and they replayed the same ship.

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Speaker 1: She's like, Yo, Mitch McConnell's talking spicy man, Like, what

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Speaker 1: the funks up with that? Uh? And here again he

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Speaker 1: sort of goes on the same talking point. People were

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Speaker 1: a little taken back the other day when Mitch McConnell

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Speaker 1: comes out and says, well, it's probably we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: win because we have some bad candidates. Was he talking

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Speaker 1: about you? He was not, And I'll tell you he

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Speaker 1: expressed himself quite clearly with his pocketbook. He's put thirty

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Speaker 1: four million dollars into my race. Yeah, that's that's when

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Speaker 1: I'm still getting my ass kick his sunken cost fallacy,

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Speaker 1: my man. I do love the fact that, like this

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Speaker 1: particular place in Pennsylvania is just they you know, they

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Speaker 1: may swing conservative from time to time. I don't really

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Speaker 1: know their voting patterns, but it's like they can they

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Speaker 1: can sniff out authenticity. Yeah, and like like any other

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Speaker 1: established politician, I'm trying to think of the of of

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Speaker 1: one who the same sort of philp Halm of just

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Speaker 1: being completely out of touch. I mean, like remember that

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Speaker 1: one Beto Uric Vanity fair Cover, that kind of remember

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Speaker 1: that was a bit of a misstep at least Beto Rouric,

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Speaker 1: when you like get him talking, sounds like a human

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Speaker 1: being who has interacted with human But I mean that

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Speaker 1: was a moment where he tried to play a folksy

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Speaker 1: and people are like, fam, you've got no broke down

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Speaker 1: truck with with him, Like with him like playing the

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Speaker 1: drums and being like cool dad, you want to have

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Speaker 1: an affair with Like that was working for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he doctor. I was like, has this thing where he

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Speaker 1: is both acting like he's above it while getting his

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Speaker 1: ass eaten up in the street, just getting his ass kicked,

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Speaker 1: and like, okay, this is a straight fight. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like the the his whole demeanor is so like also

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Speaker 1: like he has gone from being like America's doctor to

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Speaker 1: now like he his persona that he's like putting on

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Speaker 1: in this campaign is like very dumb and makes it

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Speaker 1: seem like, oh, I wouldn't even want that dude for

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Speaker 1: to be my doctor like he used to be like

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Speaker 1: one of I don't know he is. It's a blast.

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Speaker 1: It is truly so fun to watch. Please don't bring

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Speaker 1: his medical record into ill repute because I just oh wait,

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Speaker 1: this is just in according this is not a joke.

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00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: Cornet leaked emails. This motherfucker was pushing Jared pandemic savior

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Speaker 1: Kushner and doctor Deborah Burkes to rush hydroxy chloric quin

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Speaker 1: trials in March of He was the one pushing them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So this man, I mean they should use that to

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Speaker 1: be like, yo, bro, this guy was the dude who

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Speaker 1: was trying to get you out of take horse paste.

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Speaker 1: Mhm does that help now, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So it's all it's night night. I think for for

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Speaker 1: that one barring some kind of terrible election interference. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's just it's also fun to see all the

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Speaker 1: pundits on that, right, being like, yeah, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: got to figure something out. Yeah, and he doesn't. He

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00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be able to switch gears. Like every

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00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: time he gets criticized, he just gets like he just

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Speaker 1: like doubles down on this like weird defensive slash, I'm

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00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: above this slash, Like look how much money I have?

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Speaker 1: You know that, like how much money getting is getting

551
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: funneled into your campaign is not something to brag about

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00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: when people are like, hey, so, why are you getting

553
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: your ass kicked so bad? They gave me forty million dollars?

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00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: What do you mean? And that's what we really well,

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Speaker 1: that's where our curiosity comes from. My guy, we're getting

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00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: fucking rinsed. It's like, is the is spending directly related

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00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: to your sinking polling numbers? Right? Maybe you should stop?

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00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's like he they just didn't. He is

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Speaker 1: good in on the TV, like with the script that

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Speaker 1: is written by the people who he unceremoniously fired, or

561
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: just like was like a sorry guys, shows coming to

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Speaker 1: an end, Thanks for the fifteen years and for giving

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00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: me a massive like celebrity, and now he's out on

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00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: his own and he's just an unlikable dipshit who like

565
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: has no qualities that make him a good candidate. But

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00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: he had tricked himself with with celebrity. Celebrity is a

567
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: hell of a drug, and he had tricked himself into

568
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Speaker 1: thinking that he was just going to be able to

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Speaker 1: get out here. And Doctor Oz is way out of here.

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00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: And it's like, Yo, you had a team of twenty

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Speaker 1: writers who were working around the clock to make you

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Speaker 1: look good and you just and did their careers or

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00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: like you know, just dropped them, and now you're fucked.

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Speaker 1: You don't have anything that would be great if it's

575
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: hilarious to watch. Great if some of his writers started

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00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: working for Federman, They're like, yo, man, you I could

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00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: write some ads for you, right, I can do some

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00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: Twitter class backs if you want, Like you know this

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Speaker 1: mother for got ten houses, right? If I would sentiment,

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00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: that would be my first move. It's like, what do

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00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: you have on him? I'm like, you want to work

582
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: for me? I got a job for you, Like, come

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00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: at this dude, sideways. I give you permission from doctor

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Speaker 1: to a magician. It's like, who wants to watch me

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00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: set forty million dollars on fire? Yeah, there was this

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00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: early like are a journalist like wrote something that was

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00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: like my oldly critical of doctor Oz, and like then

588
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: he I had a sense that this campaign was not

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00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna work out that well when he and his wife

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00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: called the journalist and then like left or a voicemail

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Speaker 1: and then left the phone like open, left the phone

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Speaker 1: line open forgot to hang up, and we're like this bitch,

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00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: like just like really just showing that this exact energy

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00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: of like being not thinking, thinking that like anybody who

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Speaker 1: dare criticized them like needs to be dealt with, and

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00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: also just being like dumb, just like not having anything

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00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: interesting or of substance to say in response, just like

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00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: being it's it's energy. He's also Gabbo the fucking puppet

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00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: the kids, and they're like maybe it's the kids who

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00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: are wrong anyways. Truly, like I I will continue to watch,

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Speaker 1: we will continue to follow this because it's just great,

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00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: great entertainments. You just love to see somebody with that

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Speaker 1: like the confidence of a millionaire thinking like because they're

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Speaker 1: a millionaire, they're like they fucking got it. All figured

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Speaker 1: out and they have their like welcome to Earth moment.

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Speaker 1: I still don't think he's realized it, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: who knows. He's probably go slithering back to try and

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Speaker 1: have a TV show after this, but maybe I'll have

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Speaker 1: one on news Max. Yeah, but I do think this

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Speaker 1: this has to be like thinking his a steam in

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Speaker 1: the eyes of like most people everywhere. I can't. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine it's good for the brand. Yeah, bad for

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Speaker 1: the brand. Speaking of bad for the brand, the GOP. Uh,

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Speaker 1: The GEOP response to Biden doing a little little student

615
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: debt relief was to be like too much fucking fun

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00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: helping people just kind of across the board, except Trump,

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00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: who he's never gonna argue with debts being forgiven since

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00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: he is the debt king. But yeah, for the most part,

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00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: bad look for Republicans that well, you know, they finally

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00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: found a thing to coalesce around, right, because you talked

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00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: about before with the mar Lago, right, everybody had a

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00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: different take. They didn't know what the funk to say,

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Speaker 1: They didn't know what was like good or bad anymore,

624
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: and so with this they finally like big news item.

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00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: Everybody yelled that Biden is doing Biden is doing socialism,

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Speaker 1: and we got that, like Mitch McConnell's like, there's a

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Speaker 1: students socialism and like other people, Fucking Tucker Carlson was

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00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: calling this ship reparations, um, and you know it's not

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Speaker 1: really much like in terms of news, But I just

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Speaker 1: love how bothered republic guns are by actually helping, like

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Speaker 1: by the government trying to help people, even though very incrementally,

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Speaker 1: versus how they like to do things like well, we

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Speaker 1: like to steal from poor people through wealth redistribution and

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Speaker 1: like terrible tax bills. But I guess so. But here's

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Speaker 1: Tucker who is starting He started off being like, Okay,

636
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Speaker 1: maybe there is a student debt problem, but who are

637
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Speaker 1: we helping these damn commies who are learning about their

638
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Speaker 1: fucking bodies and ship in school. Give it to the

639
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: miners or people who are geology. Let's listen to this nonsense.

640
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: Who worked hard to pay his person billions of tax dollars.

641
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: He would help people like the guy you just saw

642
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Speaker 1: who worked hard to pay his debts. And then if

643
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: you really wanted to go forward debt forgiveness, and you

644
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: can make an argument for who would you reward it to,

645
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: well you would awarded people who might conceivably improve the

646
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: country you live in. Who would that be, Well, let's

647
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: see dental and veterinary students, structural engineering majors, people who

648
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 1: did something useful in college. But you would never, any

649
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: million years even consider giving a tax subsidy to lawyers

650
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Speaker 1: or gender studies majors are diversity administrators. Why because you

651
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: don't want more of those people. We have way too

652
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: many of them already. And then you would never send

653
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Speaker 1: money to anyone who supported BLM riots or anyone who

654
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Speaker 1: claimed on Twitter that America is a systemically racist country. Okay,

655
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: So anyway, he's, uh, you know, nationalism testing who gets

656
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Speaker 1: it and who's contributing and who really are you a

657
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: fascist who is willing to work for the cause or not.

658
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Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of different conversations going

659
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Speaker 1: on at the same time, and it's like they're they're

660
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: like you said, they're all sort of fascist in nature.

661
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Speaker 1: But it's like, well, we're not talking about just debt

662
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Speaker 1: because of the accrude interests that people take on. Like

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Speaker 1: it's one thing to have forty dollars in student loan debt,

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Speaker 1: but then all of the interest tacked onto that like

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Speaker 1: it easily becomes any nine thousand, you know, a hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and so like that's the primary issue on

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Speaker 1: on one hand, and then the other hand, there's the

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Speaker 1: you know, the idea of like there are people who

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Speaker 1: are deserving and there are people who are not deserving,

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Speaker 1: and that's like the complete emphasis of that hierarchy, because

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Speaker 1: we know, we're talking about miners and engineers, like we know,

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00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: people who are racking fields, yeah, and yeah, not people

673
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Speaker 1: who are like trying to be like understand American society

674
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: better to help progress the country by like you know,

675
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: writing about it. And we're like, oh, really, to people

676
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: who support riots, that's such an obviously bad faith argument.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it goes hand in hand with

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Speaker 1: sort of what they're trying to do, which is essentially

679
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Speaker 1: just say that there are people, like you're saying, people

680
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Speaker 1: there are people that deserve and there is a group

681
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: of people who don't deserve ship. Just so you know,

682
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: they don't't give a funk what they're saying. They don't

683
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Speaker 1: deserve a fucking thing. Yeah, that's why like it kind

684
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Speaker 1: of you know, it was bugging me yesterday we were

685
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: talking about this this plan from Biden, which is like,

686
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Speaker 1: if you're pursuing something that is is about equity or

687
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be equitable, that means you're you're operating

688
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: from the premise that every single person is deserving, right,

689
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: like just as a concept. So to then do something like,

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Speaker 1: well you get a little bit if you make this

691
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: much and then this much if you get that, I'm like,

692
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: that's not equitable, you know, like as a treat right

693
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Speaker 1: exactly when it should just be. If your if your

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Speaker 1: main focus is equity, equality, then you have to operate

695
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Speaker 1: from the place that every single person deserves the said thing,

696
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Speaker 1: whether that's healthcare, whether it's an education or whatever. And

697
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Speaker 1: mucking around with it. I mean, you know, I get it.

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Speaker 1: There's there's plenty of write ups. Now I'm like, do

699
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Speaker 1: you you gotta give it up for him? Yes, I

700
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are actually getting really like

701
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Speaker 1: tangible relief. However, the point is to try and do

702
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Speaker 1: something that is going to create equitable playing field for

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Speaker 1: people who you know, unfortunately had to go into debt

704
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: because they're trying to break their generational cycles of not

705
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Speaker 1: being able to go to college. I think there's a

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00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: misconception that or like a thing that I forget a

707
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: lot is that they know what they're like the conservatives

708
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: when they're arguing, they won't say say this, but they

709
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: know what they're doing and they know why they're doing it.

710
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Speaker 1: Like that. There's a thing that kind of started going

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Speaker 1: viral this quote from Roger Freeman, who was like an

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Speaker 1: economist and you know, an advisor to the Nixon administration

713
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Speaker 1: and Ronald Reagan. That's exactly what I was gonna bring up. Yeah,

714
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Speaker 1: and he he said, basically, we're this is actually a

715
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: direct quote. We're in danger of producing an educated proletariat

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Speaker 1: that's dynamite. We have to be selective of who we

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Speaker 1: allow to go through higher education. And his point being like,

718
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: because at the time, you know, we talked about this

719
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: all the time that boomers are like, what what are

720
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: you talking about? I worked my way through college, and

721
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, because your college didn't call ship where

722
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: you had like a free college education, because you like

723
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: went to a local school, Like that doesn't exist for

724
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: people anymore. You cannot get a college education like you

725
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: did without going into like lifelong debt. And that is

726
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: specifically by design, and that the design is we can't

727
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Speaker 1: have everybody getting educated, because that's going to lead to

728
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Speaker 1: people knowing and writing like you you mentioned, being able

729
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: to like write things and think things like that. That

730
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Speaker 1: is going to lead to people equity in education, and

731
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: equity and education is going to lead to people recognizing

732
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Speaker 1: that this is an unjust society. Right. They're like, we

733
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Speaker 1: can't have a bunch of NEOs walking around the matrix exactly,

734
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We need more people to

735
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Speaker 1: be in their battery bobbles, and I hate to use

736
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Speaker 1: a matrix for that, but I mean it's good Miles.

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Speaker 1: You were saying that you want me to take the

738
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: red pill. Yes, just try it. Just take a couple

739
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: of links off and see where it goes. You don't

740
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: take the whole thing, just see where it goes. But yeah,

741
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: it's it's so true. And we've seen this systemic, you know,

742
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: dismantling of our public education system occur over like slow motion,

743
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: over the last few decades. And again that's why I'm like,

744
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: I keep we can only express so much gratitude to

745
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: people that are educators because they're also trying to make

746
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: the situation untenable for the people who even bother to

747
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: show children and students fucking compassion and like a concept

748
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: of like education that is like worth pursuing. Uh yeah,

749
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: it's totally I had this. I had this thought the

750
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Speaker 1: other day that was like, because we know that nothing's

751
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Speaker 1: gonna be done about or more or less, you know,

752
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: as far as safety implementations go, they're not going to

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Speaker 1: do about my shoes. And I have this thought that, like,

754
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: they don't even need to defund education if they make

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Speaker 1: the conditions so unbearable for teachers that they leave the

756
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Speaker 1: industry entirely and just let the you know, let the

757
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: thing collapse on it else. Yeah, right, exactly, and then

758
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: go and then immediately moved to their privatization model, which

759
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: they'd love too, in which case sucking. The Koch brothers

760
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: will tell you that, you know, slavery never happened, and

761
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: actually the people that were living here, the indigenous people lived,

762
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: they actually wanted to be converted to Christianity. M Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And if you make a lot of noise or keep

764
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Speaker 1: talking in class or point out that any of this

765
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: is bullshit, we have a little teacher. It is a drone.

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Speaker 1: It has a taser on it. Yeah, it'll shock your ass, right,

767
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: And actually I don't I don't know if y'all know

768
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: about this. This is funny, kids, we talk about Thanksgiving

769
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Speaker 1: that's coming up, and talk about the exchange between the

770
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Speaker 1: Pilgrims or some people called colonizers. We don't like that word.

771
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: The Pilgrims came and they were hanging out with the

772
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Speaker 1: Native Americans, and really Thanksgiving was them saying the Native

773
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Speaker 1: American people saying thanks for giving us a new religion

774
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Speaker 1: in a new way of thinking. That's what the first

775
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: story was about, thanks for giving. Yes, exactly, nothing that

776
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: happened and everything and everything was fine, and everything was fine.

777
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back,

778
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: and we're back, and I want to talk about like

779
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: some pop academia, some like some of the most popular

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Speaker 1: nonfiction books in the past ten fifteen years. Some of

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00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: them were by Stephen Pinker. He had a book like

782
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: The Better Angels of Our Nature and it was basically

783
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: an argument that, like everything has gotten so much better

784
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: from basically prehistory to like the modern day. It's just

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00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: gotten better and better and better. And then you've all

786
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: Noah Harari release Sapiens, which got people's attention because it

787
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: like talked about this thing called the wheat Trap, which

788
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: was basically that like, you know, agriculture actually like made

789
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: our lives bad in some ways. But then he just

790
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: cites what Pinker said for that, like crime used to

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00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 1: crime in like war used to rule the land, and

792
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: everything was brutal, and therefore we need this ship. Basically

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00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: like their version of history before police and Armies is

794
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: a horror movie. Like they're just like, yeah, like people

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Speaker 1: like when you look at the skeletons of them have

796
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: arrows or chainsaws through the skull because it was bad

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00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: back then. So and I remember like reading that and

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Speaker 1: being like that is that's the underpinning of the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: The whole argument for Western culture is that like back then,

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Speaker 1: everything was more violent and like the the thing that

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00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: like Western civilization is protecting us from is like an

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00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: existence as a horror movie. And I think this is

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Speaker 1: how people want to believe things are. First of all,

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00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: because these are both like best selling books, but also

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00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: because when you look at our movies that are either

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Speaker 1: set in the distant past, like you know, the Northman,

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00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones, Apocalypto, like movies like that my favorite

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Speaker 1: movie also favorite, yeah, or when you look at what

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Speaker 1: happens in movies when like society breaks down, like Matt

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00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: Max or like every zombie movie, it's always immediately like

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Speaker 1: killer be killed. You know, just death and destruction and

812
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: terror like that is I think just generally the ambient

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00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: understanding of how the world works. And it's like I understand,

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Speaker 1: like they they've done a good job of constructing this argument.

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Speaker 1: The only problem is it's not true. Like it's it's

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00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: just not true. They used a sample from like a

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00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: handful of the most warlike like points in history and

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00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: used that to draw their statistics. It's it's not true.

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00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: The world before, like all of these civilizations before Western Europe,

820
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: before Western civilization, started abstracting human beings and like making

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Speaker 1: decisions based on massive like groups of people as if

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Speaker 1: they were just numbers on a spreadsheet or an advocus.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk they used back then

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Speaker 1: than you, like before that people were people's lives were

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Speaker 1: actually better in a lot of ways, and their art

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Speaker 1: was interesting. And we you know, we talked yesterday about

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Speaker 1: like how culture gets erased or ignored, and this is

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Speaker 1: this is just one of the ways that like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I just want to make sure that people

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Speaker 1: understand that there is so much interesting history of civilizations

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Speaker 1: that don't look anything like our horror movies or our

832
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: like fantasy movies or our history movies. There beautiful and

833
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: interesting and complex and collaborative, and they aren't constructed. Then

834
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Speaker 1: they don't have the same structures as our societies, and

835
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Speaker 1: like we should be studying them and reading about that

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Speaker 1: and not all this like bullshit and death and destruction

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Speaker 1: that just then they didn't have WiFi, or they'll be

838
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: like they didn't have toilets, and you're like, they actually

839
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Speaker 1: did have sanitation systems, and they're like, oh, when Western

840
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Speaker 1: colonizers came to the New World, the people like what

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Speaker 1: they called the New World, you know, the people who

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Speaker 1: lived here, the indigenous Americans were like, these people smell

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Speaker 1: like ship. That is the one thing that you get

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Speaker 1: repeatedly is that they smell like ship, look like ship,

845
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Speaker 1: and her filthy and like they they were there disease

846
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Speaker 1: a better way of life. The only reason that they

847
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Speaker 1: lost was because they didn't have any protection for all

848
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Speaker 1: of the diseases that the Westerners were bringing over with them.

849
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Speaker 1: Because they lived amongst the pig ship for thousands of

850
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Speaker 1: beers it's the sort of like intentional ignorance that they

851
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Speaker 1: have to put people in like we see this all

852
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Speaker 1: the time. It's like I was compared society like to

853
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Speaker 1: the funking the village where it's like, believe what I'm

854
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Speaker 1: telling you right now, do not look beyond these walls

855
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Speaker 1: because it's so scary. And really I'm saying that as

856
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Speaker 1: a method to control you, because if you look out

857
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Speaker 1: there and you see the truth, you might be like,

858
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Speaker 1: I don't want to fucking live in this dusty ass village.

859
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Speaker 1: The funk is this, you know what I mean? And

860
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Speaker 1: this is the same thing, like to completely shelve any

861
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Speaker 1: understanding or concept of how advanced like ancient civilizations were

862
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Speaker 1: just in service of this idea of like yeah, but

863
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Speaker 1: thank god for like the like colonization of the earth

864
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Speaker 1: from Europeans, because that's really what got this thing moving, uh.

865
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Speaker 1: And I think it's yeah, we completely we missed the

866
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Speaker 1: point when we have so much to learn from like

867
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Speaker 1: actually advanced uh civilizations, just because of you know, like

868
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Speaker 1: where they are on the timeline, it's very easy to

869
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Speaker 1: dismiss it, I guess with this sort of concept of

870
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Speaker 1: like it was all chaos though, Man, it's all chaos. Yeah. Well,

871
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Speaker 1: it's like I think the colonization and capitalism has to

872
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Speaker 1: justify itself in its own existence. You know. It's like

873
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Speaker 1: what we brought you, civilization and it's like you you

874
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Speaker 1: didn't you interrupted another society? Yeah, civilization. I'm like, yo,

875
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Speaker 1: what would this place if y'all let the maya cook? Right?

876
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Speaker 1: You know, what's that look like? What's that? What's that

877
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Speaker 1: world look like? What do these worlds look like? Where

878
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Speaker 1: like indigenous civilizations did not have to fucking unford the

879
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Speaker 1: unfortunate misfortune of crossing paths with Europeans. What does the

880
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Speaker 1: world look like at that point? How? Yeah, right exactly.

881
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Speaker 1: I'm like you look at how advanced of these civilizations are, Like,

882
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Speaker 1: manbe motherfucker's had fucking universal healthcare, Like that was a

883
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Speaker 1: fucking articulated right, yeah. They And one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: things they h that was like very common in the

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Speaker 1: America's before you know, disease came through and wiped everyone out.

886
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Speaker 1: And also and then the Westerners came through and finished

887
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Speaker 1: the job with just outright brutal violence. Was they would

888
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Speaker 1: switch role, like you you got to be some societies,

889
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Speaker 1: you got to be like the king for the fall,

890
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Speaker 1: but then you get you just like went back to

891
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Speaker 1: being you know, every there were. They had like a

892
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: stratified society with like different classes and social roles, but

893
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: you just switched every season like based on just randomness.

894
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,959
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, that's I get to be like

895
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Speaker 1: the rich guy who lives in a mansion next year,

896
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Speaker 1: and I'm psyched for that. It'll be fun. Except everybody

897
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: treats you like ship when you are that person, because

898
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: like they're just like that guy. He's like thinks he's

899
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: better than us. The police, by the way, like you

900
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Speaker 1: know how they talk about that surgeons like shared working

901
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: spaces and oftentimes were the same profession as barbers like

902
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: back in the day. Well the thing with police were

903
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Speaker 1: shared professions with clowns during a lot of these civilizations,

904
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Speaker 1: because it was basically like I mean, you can tell

905
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: people what they should and shouldn't be doing, but you

906
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: better be like real funny about it and like not

907
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Speaker 1: expect them to take you seriously in the least bit

908
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Speaker 1: and like that. I don't know, there's just like a

909
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: lot of things from these ancient civilizations I got. I

910
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Speaker 1: got a lot of this from the Dawn of Everything

911
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: which I talked about a lot. But it's a very

912
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: good book. But there's there's other really cool work. And

913
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna link off to an article that just pulls

914
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: apart the whole Panker world view in like some a

915
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: few very short passages where it's just like, here are

916
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: the different civilizations he was looking at. Here's why, like

917
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: this doesn't make sense. War was very uncommon at this time.

918
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Speaker 1: Some of these assumptions he's making, he's like actually moving

919
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Speaker 1: it like a millennia earlier than it actually was, because

920
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Speaker 1: war was something that was invented and like grew from there.

921
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Speaker 1: But you like it is a fairly recent phenomenon that

922
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Speaker 1: had to be invented, and before that people were doing

923
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Speaker 1: all right, like people, people were doing pretty pretty fucking good.

924
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Speaker 1: A couple of a couple of comments that I've seen

925
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Speaker 1: a lot, particularly on Taktok with the Native creators, and

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Speaker 1: I'm follow me. It's like, you know, it's when socialism

927
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Speaker 1: or communism is when no iPhone, and it's like we

928
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: developed these tools to communicate, you know, naturally over time.

929
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Speaker 1: Like assuming that capitalism is the end albe all of

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Speaker 1: cre of human ingenuity just completely ignores like thousands of

931
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Speaker 1: years of like productive living and like ease of living.

932
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Speaker 1: You know, the reason why we have a lot of

933
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Speaker 1: these tools is because life is much harder for us,

934
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Speaker 1: Like we're not as home as often. You know, I

935
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Speaker 1: don't remember where it was, but it was somebody talking about,

936
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Speaker 1: like how we work harder than medieval peasants, you know,

937
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: the perception of like well ship, they have it really hard.

938
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Speaker 1: Medieval peasants had a much better work life balance, like

939
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: really had a lot of downtime, and we're chilling. I

940
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: want to put on my fucking leather ear flat hat.

941
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Speaker 1: That's what I always think of a medieval just covered

942
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Speaker 1: in much flat hat, laying around in hay. But they

943
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: were fucking like most of the time. You know, it's

944
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Speaker 1: like the village where have I Your perspective is fully

945
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: encapsulated and indoctrinated into this viewpoint and don't you dare

946
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: look outside of it? Like I was connecting it to

947
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: the landback movement, so like the the movement to you know,

948
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say give because it implies like ownership,

949
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: but you know, returning indigenous land to indigenous peoples, and

950
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Speaker 1: like the sort of pushback is like, well, I'm not

951
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: going anywhere, And it's like, that is your perspective through

952
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: this colonized filter you're assuming. This is the assumptions of

953
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Speaker 1: what you would do. You know, has like somebody who's

954
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: still in a Western mindset of like, well, if I'm

955
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: getting this land back, I'm kicking everybody off. And it's

956
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: like that's that's such a limited perspective of how to

957
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: see the world in each other and this idea that like,

958
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, humans are in competition with each other constantly,

959
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: and it's like, have you ever been in a natural

960
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: disaster or have like an emergency where you needed other

961
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: people to help you? Like that is I think what

962
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: are true nature is It's like, oh, ship, you're you're

963
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: kind of struggling, Why have they needs to help you?

964
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: Let me hope. Yeah, that's how people treating each other

965
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: in a disaster, not what you see in zombie movies

966
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: Like that's that's the story that goes untold, is people

967
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: show up for each other. Well, because yeah, if if

968
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: the if the binary is WiFi or violence, you know,

969
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: that helps people be like Okay, don't don't do anything

970
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: to funk this up, because if if we up end this,

971
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: then it's going to lead to this thing which I've

972
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: been fully inoculated with, this idea of this concept that

973
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: to abandon this model means utter chaos and violence, when

974
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: really we are living in utter chaos and violence, and

975
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: we need to abandon this model for something different. Yeah. Well, Derek,

976
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: truly a pleasure having you on the daily Zeitgeist as always,

977
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Speaker 1: where can people find you? Follow you? All that good stuff.

978
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: All my socials are just my name. So if if

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982
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Speaker 1: the videos like the New Thing where the old thing,

984
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985
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Speaker 1: he got fifty dollars or five thousand dollars of los forgiven. Miles,

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Speaker 1: where can people find you? What has a tweet you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles

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Speaker 1: and Jack got mad Boost. He's had to switch it

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Speaker 1: just one tweet today, whether from Zack Dunn at Zach

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Speaker 1: be Done tweeted New James Bond movie, James. If you

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Speaker 1: means to truly sacrifice Old James Bond movie. My name

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Speaker 1: that was like the direction they took the new Bond

1011
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Speaker 1: movies is that they're just basically like the old ones,

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Speaker 1: like LinkedIn equality, writing and sexual innuendoes. Let's see trash.

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Speaker 1: Jones tweeted so embarrassing that Jesus loves me I barely

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Speaker 1: think about him at all, and D L. Mayfield I

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Speaker 1: whereas due D L. Mayfield tweeted, the Bible is unclear

1017
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Speaker 1: about a lot of things, but not predatory loans. You

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1019
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Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at

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Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan

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Speaker 1: page and a website, Daily Zeitgeist dot com, where we

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Speaker 1: post our episodes and our foot note where we link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do we think people might enjoy today? Oh? Man,

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Speaker 1: you gotta check out this new album from DOMI and

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Speaker 1: j D Back. You've probably seen this duel front social

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Speaker 1: media a lot there, Like j D at plays drums,

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Speaker 1: don't me as a keyboard player and I believe also

1030
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Speaker 1: plays sax, but she's both of them are on another

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Speaker 1: level of musicians like they are, like they are, nobody's

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Speaker 1: really working with them. I mean sure historically, like Herbie

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Speaker 1: Hancock is on this album because that's how good of

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Speaker 1: a keyboard players he is. And they're just like their

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Speaker 1: jazz style. So this album they that they just put

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Speaker 1: out is really dope. It's called not Type Um. And

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Speaker 1: this track that we're gonna listen to is called two

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Speaker 1: Shrimps and it's featuring Mac de Marco and yeah, just

1039
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Speaker 1: check this out. They got fucking they're they're just nasty

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Speaker 1: on their instruments and a lot of their times, like

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Speaker 1: when you see them play, they're like just shredding. But

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Speaker 1: this one they're a little more restrained kind of giving

1043
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Speaker 1: you really dope songs. So the whole album is really cool.

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Speaker 1: So check this one out. Two Shrimps, Don't Me and

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Speaker 1: j D Beck? Al Right, Well, The Daily Zia is

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is

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Speaker 1: going to do it for this morning. We're back this

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Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what it is trending, and we

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