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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody. Welcome into a Wednesday edition

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Speaker 1: of Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harrison's so glad to be

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Speaker 1: with you this evening, getting ready for the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of weird. I haven't said that in four years,

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Speaker 1: and really don't say it, but every four years, maybe

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Speaker 1: one day we'll meet in that game they call the

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Speaker 1: Super One the Super Bowl, but not as right now.

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Speaker 1: So this will be all we have going for us

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Speaker 1: right here with these two teams. But met in twenty

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Speaker 1: fourteen here at Energy Stadium, and I remember the Texans

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Speaker 1: winning a few going into that one, and then that

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Speaker 1: was the game before bye week and then just imploded

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles deep balls. I mean it was it was

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Speaker 1: a rough game. Eagles ended up with a win. And

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Speaker 1: then when Eagles played Texas before that, they ended up

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Speaker 1: with a win, and then the time before that they

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Speaker 1: ended up with a win, and then the time before

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Speaker 1: that they ended up with a win. So the Texans

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Speaker 1: are owing four against the Philadelphia Eagles. Oh and to

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Speaker 1: quote good buddy John McClain, the US and others were

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Speaker 1: owned seven. So no Houston professional team has ever beaten

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, whether it's was whether it was in

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Speaker 1: Veteran Stadium, the Astronome, Lincoln Financial, or Nargy Stadium, has

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Speaker 1: not happened. I am all for changing that on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the Texans are as well as the Eagles

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Speaker 1: try and keep their hopes alive. So just to give

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Speaker 1: you just a little bit into this game what it

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Speaker 1: means for the Eagles, you already kind of know what

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Speaker 1: it means for you Texans. Texans magic number to win

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Speaker 1: a division is one win either one of these last

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Speaker 1: two games. They're gonna be two games on Saturday Night

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Speaker 1: that we'll be watching, I'm sure while we're up in Philly,

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Speaker 1: first of all, because there's football on and we're always

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Speaker 1: watching football, so we'll be watching that, but we'll keep

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Speaker 1: behind the Titans. They're facing the Redskins, and the Redskins

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Speaker 1: coming off a win over the Jaguars, so you never know.

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Speaker 1: And then the Chargers are playing the Ravens, so the

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Speaker 1: Texans can lock up a playoff spot with a child

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Speaker 1: with the Ravens loss, but we're looking for more than

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Speaker 1: that obviously. Before the Philadelphia Eagles, it gets very tiebreaker

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Speaker 1: ish if you will. They are one game behind the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. But the problem is if they finished tie

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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, the Cowboys have beaten Eagles twice. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys win a division, so the Eagles need some help,

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Speaker 1: but that help can be moot if and be rendered mute.

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Speaker 1: If the Texans win the game on Sunday, the Eagles

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Speaker 1: season will be over at that point. There's no way,

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Speaker 1: no matter what happens the Dallas, that the Eagles could

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Speaker 1: end up catching them. Now the Redskins could, but the

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Speaker 1: Eagles season with a loss is going to be over

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Speaker 1: because the best they could do at that point is

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Speaker 1: tie the Cowboys at eight and eight, the Cowboys would

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Speaker 1: have the tiebreakers. So this is a must win situation

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles. It's a must win situation for the Texans,

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Speaker 1: and that means it is on like a playoff. Donkey

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Speaker 1: Kong looking forward to it? All right, We got plenty

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Speaker 1: plenty on the show today. We have Dave Zangaro from

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Speaker 1: NBC Sports filling if that name sounds familiar, because he

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Speaker 1: used to cover the Texans for CSN Houston with that

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Speaker 1: organization was still alive. So dpcter cut up with him

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Speaker 1: as we go behind enemy sidelines. We're gonna have the

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Speaker 1: game plan. Brian Gaine, general manager of your Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: on the show to kind of talk through some of

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Speaker 1: the offseason stuff that they're already working on with their

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Speaker 1: personnel staff, the scouts, the college scouts, and what they're

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Speaker 1: going through. And then of course we'll look back at

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Speaker 1: the game last week and I'll look ahead to the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Then we've got Merrill Reese, longtime play by

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Speaker 1: Mic series. Mark's gonna stop in. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: this game. And then of course, our good friend Andre Ware,

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Speaker 1: who's got a bowl game tonight Santego State in Ohio,

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Speaker 1: play too a few minutes to spend with Mark and

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Speaker 1: played to do. So let's get kicked off with our

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Speaker 1: hot or reads they have brought to you by Geico.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen mints could save you fifteen percent or more on

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Speaker 1: car insurance. And this came out late last night, and

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Speaker 1: I know that on All Access DP, Mark and Drew

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Speaker 1: talked about this last night. But just to reiterate if

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Speaker 1: you haven't heard, the Pro Bowl announced. Four players are

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Speaker 1: going from the Texans Bernardrick McKinney for the first time,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Jemion Clowney for the third time, j J. Watt

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Speaker 1: I Believe for the fifth time twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

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Speaker 1: and eighteen, and then the best receiver in the league,

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. So four players named to the Pro Bowl Hopkins, McKinney, Watt, Clowney.

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Speaker 1: Four players named as alternates quarterback to Sean Watson, running

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put defensive backs because they do a lot

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Speaker 1: more than just one position. Tyrn Matthew and Kareem Jackson. Now,

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Speaker 1: that it's it's a player. I think all of them

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Speaker 1: of them are gonna play. I could see Lamar having

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a fan vote in Pittsburgh. Put in

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Speaker 1: Connor for Lamar Miller any day of the week. I'll

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Speaker 1: take Lamar every day, all day. But it gets to

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Speaker 1: be a popularity contest. Quarterback tough nuts to crack. In

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Speaker 1: the AFC. Patrick Mahomes has been MVP candidate, and you

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Speaker 1: got Brady um in Rivers. You didn't have even Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: get a bid. So Sean's for now falling behind them. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: Kareem and Tying I thought had a great chance, But

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Speaker 1: here's what works against them. And I hate this AFC NFC.

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Speaker 1: They've got a guy for special teams. They're kicker, punter,

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Speaker 1: Weeks one a few years ago. But they also have

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Speaker 1: a fullback. But wait a second, why would the Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl have a fullback? Fullbacks are playing twenty time. The

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Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball, everybody's playing in nickel.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's playing nickel. Why is there not a nickel that

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Speaker 1: if that were the case, Kream's lock or tiring. You

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Speaker 1: can take both of them. They're They're probably two best

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Speaker 1: Cream's played corner safety nickel. You're gonna play nickel in

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Nobody's playing you know, three four cover,

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Speaker 1: four four three cover. Nobody's doing that. You canna playing Nickele.

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Speaker 1: Everybody does. They're in a team in this league that

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Speaker 1: His numbers not even close. I saw them put up

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Speaker 1: I think he should. I think he should be an

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Speaker 1: think they've got bigger things ahead and they're thinking about

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Speaker 1: bigger things ahead than just a Pro Bowl. So there

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Speaker 1: next hot read. Let's get into the injury report. Now,

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Speaker 1: But I always like, I always like talking about those

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Speaker 1: a close one. Now close game against this Texans team.

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Speaker 1: They're both equally effective and Billy Bryant he actually said

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Speaker 1: really changed too much with either Wentz or Foles in

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Speaker 1: the game. But when you're watching them, what do you

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Speaker 1: think the biggest difference is when Foles is under center?

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Speaker 1: If you're just say, using the eyeball test, what looks

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Speaker 1: different when he's in the game. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think that's kind of the stock coach answer when you

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Speaker 1: don't want to give one guy too much credit or

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Speaker 1: takeaway from another guy. But I think the offense in

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Speaker 1: certain aspects it is the same. Is They're obviously not

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Speaker 1: going to change up what they do on a grand scale.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not all of a sudden is going

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Speaker 1: to become a completely different team, but they do do

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Speaker 1: things differently. The RPO game works a lot better with

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles. He really stayed committed to the run in

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Speaker 1: the last game. I think that the coach and the

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Speaker 1: players are a little different with the backup quarterback because

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Speaker 1: you know, like I said earlier, the sense of urgency,

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Speaker 1: it's just a little bit higher. And I think that

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson Nicholes have a good feel for each other.

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Speaker 1: I think that Doug really knows what he likes and

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Speaker 1: he's not I'm going to put too much on his plate,

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Speaker 1: where sometimes Carson Wentz is just so talented that you

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Speaker 1: feel like he can do anything. And I think they

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Speaker 1: get themselves in trouble by putting the game on his shoulders,

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Speaker 1: Whereas with Nick Foles they can kind of do what

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Speaker 1: they want and just make Nick Foles a piece of it.

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Speaker 1: I think that's why they were successful on Sunday. They're

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Speaker 1: not asking him to go out there and put the

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Speaker 1: whole team on his shoulders like they do with Carson.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they just want him to be a little piece

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Speaker 1: they're going to go with this weekend. I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you about the Eagles wide receivers. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: alshon Jeffrey. He had a big game with Foles. What

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Speaker 1: about his production eight catches for one hundred and sixty yards.

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Speaker 1: Was that just one game? Is what is happening with

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Speaker 1: his chemistry with Foles that they seem to really do

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Speaker 1: well when they're on the field together. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's the one troubling thing about him and Carson. They

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Speaker 1: haven't been able to connect on those deep balls. Nick Foles,

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Speaker 1: the one thing about him is he is not afraid

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Speaker 1: kind of gunslinger mentality. He'll throw the ball deep and

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Speaker 1: he'll throw people open. He's not going to wait for

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Speaker 1: you to get opened. He's going to throw you open it.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of what he does with Alshan Jeffrey.

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Speaker 1: Those two seem to have really good chemistry. Remember the

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Speaker 1: first time those two had played together since the Super

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Speaker 1: there's just something about the two of them, and they

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Speaker 1: seem to be on the same page. Alshan is a

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Speaker 1: supremely talented receiver who at times this year hasn't been

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Speaker 1: as productive as they probably need him to be. And

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Speaker 1: that's not all on him. I mean, some of us

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Speaker 1: talented guy. They had to find ways to get him involved,

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Speaker 1: and they did that on Sunday. That obviously helped them.

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Speaker 1: I know they've been wanting to get Golden Tape more involved,

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Speaker 1: the Texans trade for de Marius Thomas. So while in Houston,

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Speaker 1: we're sort of watching Demarrius get more involved in the offense.

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Speaker 1: What's it like watching Golden Tape get more involved in

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Speaker 1: the offense? How's that transition been? Is he where they

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Speaker 1: expect him to be or do they expect more out

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Speaker 1: of him? Still coming? Yeah, it's it's been. I think

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Speaker 1: I've watched DT a little bit there in Houston. That

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Speaker 1: find ways to get him involved, and even Amari Cooper

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Speaker 1: With Golden Tate, it hasn't been there, and I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is on the coaching staff. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think they've just really struggled to utilize him in

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Speaker 1: the right way, and they keep coming back there. There's

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Speaker 1: only one ball, and it's true this team has a

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Speaker 1: lot of weapons, but we're talking about one of the

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Speaker 1: most productive players of the last half decade in Golden Tate,

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Speaker 1: So it's been a little surprising they haven't been able

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Speaker 1: to find ways to get him the ball. Just get

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Speaker 1: the ball in his hands and let him do the rest.

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Speaker 1: That's what he does so well. He's just he doesn't

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Speaker 1: play a lot. I mean, he played I think like

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Speaker 1: thirty snaps in the last game, and it's just not enough.

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Speaker 1: From my standpoint, Nelson Agiler played almost entire game and

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Speaker 1: didn't really have a big impact in the stat sheet.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they should bench Nelson Agiler because

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Speaker 1: think he got to get Golden Taid on the field

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Speaker 1: and got to get him involved. They gave up a

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Speaker 1: third round picked for this guy, and they Bates just

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Speaker 1: basically did it as a rental player, and they hadn't

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Speaker 1: really gotten much out of it. So it's been a

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Speaker 1: little hard to figure out, and to me, it falls

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it just hasn't translated. Yeah, you almost

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Speaker 1: wonder what would happen if you would have stayed in Detroit, Dave,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the Philly defense. I

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Speaker 1: What's you know, what is the strength of that front

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Speaker 1: and what is something that Watson's really gonna have to

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Speaker 1: look out for when he faces them? Yeah? Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's kind of the strength of their defense. Is

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Speaker 1: their four men pass rush. Jim Schwartz the defensive coordinatory day,

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Speaker 1: he'd preferred not to blitz, and they don't blitz A

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Speaker 1: lot and a lot of that is predicated on that

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Speaker 1: this year. They're really good at it. In LA he

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Speaker 1: saw Fletcher Cox, I thought it was one of his

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Speaker 1: better games. He doesn't put up the sack numbers of

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Speaker 1: some of the top tier guys, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: he's not productive and that doesn't mean he's not getting

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Speaker 1: after the quarterback. Fletcher Cox is up there with, you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the best interior pass rushers in the league,

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Speaker 1: So he's a guy that you have to account for.

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Speaker 1: Michael Bennett as a defensive end in this four three

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Speaker 1: system is obviously really good a getting at the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's done his whole career, so they have guys who

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Speaker 1: can do it. The back end of the defense played

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Speaker 1: well in LA, but they have a lot of missing

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Speaker 1: pieces back there from their starting secondary, the five starters

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Speaker 1: back there, just Malcolm Jenkins is left. Everyone else has

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Speaker 1: been hurt this year, and it's actually amazing they've been

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Speaker 1: able to play this well with so many injuries. But

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Speaker 1: they're without they're starting two corners on the outside, they're

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Speaker 1: starting nickel cornerback is out right now, and one of

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Speaker 1: their starting safeties is done for the year. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of injuries on the back end, but they've held

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Speaker 1: it together enough and that front four, if they get

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback, it means the cornerbacks or if they

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Speaker 1: get to the quarterbacks or the cornerbacks only have to

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Speaker 1: cover for a little bit of time, and they've been

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Speaker 1: able to do that it's all about the pass rush

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles. Yeah. And speaking of injuries, I saw

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Speaker 1: then came back in. Is there any concern for him

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Speaker 1: moving forward? Nah, he'll be good. I talked to him

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Speaker 1: after the game, he heard his hit, basically said there

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Speaker 1: was nothing that was going to keep him out of

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Speaker 1: that game. He ended up playing a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: He played a lot of snaps. He's been playing a

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Speaker 1: kind of realizes the situation, realized how dire it is,

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Speaker 1: and he's just not going to leave the field. And

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Speaker 1: it's kind of what we've seen. He might be a

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Speaker 1: little banged out, he's probably a little store over these

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Speaker 1: last few days, but he'll be fine to play, and

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Speaker 1: I'd expect him to play a lot on Someday. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Big game for the Eagles, big game for the Texans

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Speaker 1: as well. Thanks so much for the time Dave Zengaro

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Speaker 1: covers the Eagles for NBC Sports Philadelphia. Dave, appreciate it

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Speaker 1: as always, and we'll see you up there on Sunday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it should be fun. I'm excited. Thank you, great, great,

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Speaker 1: great to catch up with our old friend Dave Zangaro

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the game plan. We do

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Speaker 1: this every single week. This week, Brian Gaine talks about

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Speaker 1: You've got the Shrine Bowls. You've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: Joining us right now in the Hunday Texans Radio studio,

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Speaker 1: General manager Brian Gaine. Brian, what are your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: First and foremost, compliments to the players and the coaches

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Speaker 1: going on the road primetime game in a tough environment,

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Speaker 1: dealing with the elements as well getting twenty two victory.

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Speaker 1: The thing that stood out to me the most is

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Speaker 1: Defense goes out there first drive three and out and

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Speaker 1: the offense, I think scorer had scoring drives three, three

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Speaker 1: or four straight scoring drives to start the game. And

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Speaker 1: then when the game was on the line at the

641
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: end of the game in the fourth quarter, we put

642
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: together a touchdown drive, not a field goal drive, a

643
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: touchdown drive, went the distance, score a touchdown to take

644
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Speaker 1: a lead, and when the defense needed to get a

645
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: stop at the end to seal the victory, force they

646
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: did it. So compliments to the players and coaches for

647
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: making that happen. All the defensive players said they have

648
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: this belief that it's going to get done. The belief,

649
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: the positive thinking that goes behind having Deshaun Watson and

650
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: the offensive crew able to come through like that. How

651
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: tough is that to project going in when you're evaluating players.

652
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: The thing that stands out to me in regards to

653
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: that thought is, we've had a lot of situational experience

654
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Speaker 1: this season in terms of the circumstances. We've been down

655
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: on the road, We've been up on the road, we've

656
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: been down at home, we've been up at home. When

657
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: the game has been on the line, some fourth quarters

658
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: we've had the lead. Hasn't been a few fourth quarters

659
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: maybe where we lost the lead and gained the lead back.

660
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: I feel like this this team is battle tested, and

661
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: the guys have faced adverse experiences and come out on

662
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: the positive side of things. So I think our awareness

663
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: to that helps us in some of these circumstances in

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Speaker 1: terms of evaluating that. On the player evaluation side, you know,

665
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Speaker 1: poise is important and in the moments it's very important

666
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: that players have pois. I think our team has good

667
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: pois in those situational moments, at critical moments and junctures

668
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: in the game, and they've demonstrated that this season. But

669
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: the team. How important, how beneficial is it to have

670
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: that one extra day because you played on Saturday, you

671
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: get Sunday, obvious, you have an eight day week of

672
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: sorts to get ready for this one very important. Having

673
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: the extra day to go through any rehabilitation, any prehabilitation,

674
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: their overall wellness and recovery, hydration, nutrition, rest. It's having

675
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Speaker 1: that extra day. I think, well, we'll be a bonus

676
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: for us. You know. Conversely, if you know Philly, please

677
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: you know played less night. I'm sure they had a

678
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: long trip back from the West Coast. We've been in

679
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: those situations as well. You have to manage manage it well.

680
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: I've seen our players here already today. For the guys

681
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: that have the pumps and bruises, they get an extra

682
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: twenty four hours to prepare for Sunday. Ryan nick Foles,

683
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: He's an interesting story to me because he had early success.

684
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: Then he kind of not bottomed out, but he bounced

685
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: around a little bit, then goes back as the backup

686
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: quarterback and wins the Super Bowl. What kind of lesson

687
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: is that in terms of evaluators, the way they look

688
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: at players and players themselves to not give up on themselves. Well,

689
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: I think there's always going to have to be value

690
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: on the number two quarterback role in any organization because

691
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: you want your season to obviously continue if anything happens

692
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: to the starter. But you're talking about the Super Bowl

693
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: MVP here, we view him as a starting caliber player.

694
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: They may have arguably the best backup quarterback situation in

695
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: the National Football League, having a guy who's gotten them

696
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl and won the Super Bowl and

697
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: won the MVP who happens to be there number two quarterbacks.

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00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: So high level of respect for him. We've played him

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00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: in the past a few years ago, some years back

700
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: here with coach O'Brien when he came into our building.

701
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: We've had to play before. Certainly a lot of respect

702
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: for him, and he went on a road yesterday in

703
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: a very difficult environment versus one of the top three

704
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: or four teams in the league and one so he

705
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: certainly has our attention, certainly has our respect. When you

706
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Speaker 1: look at these NFC East teams, they've played all these

707
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: AFC South teams, So how beneficial is that when you're

708
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: looking at different tape and everything. Sure so for the

709
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: teams that are common opponents for us, you know we're

710
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: always going to look and see who we played, and

711
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: then who they played and where the common opponents are.

712
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: When they're playing in the AFC South, they're playing teams

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00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: were directly familiar with. So we get to study a

714
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: lot of a lot more tape in terms of the

715
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Speaker 1: games that we're going to get a chance to see.

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Speaker 1: But as a week to week business, you know the game,

717
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to be a game plan team.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they are too, so based on what we're

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00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: seeing on tape, based on what they're seeing on tape,

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00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: they'll put the best game plans together. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: just going to focus right now on getting ready for

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. As much as we know that they played

723
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Speaker 1: in our division. There's some common traits that you can

724
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Speaker 1: find and decis to decipher from studying the tape. But

725
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: it's a week to week business and the game plans

726
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: evolve each week. Because of that. Brian Gain joining us,

727
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: what about going to the Northeast back to back weeks,

728
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: is there any benefit to that? I do? I do

729
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: believe that because I think from a travel standpoint, there's

730
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Speaker 1: some awareness to the routine in terms of the time

731
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Speaker 1: time management, terms of when we depart and when we arrive.

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Speaker 1: The irony is, you know, the two cities or an

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Speaker 1: hour and forty five minutes apart from each other, so

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Speaker 1: it won't be too dissimilar. And in terms of the

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Speaker 1: routine of how the next day works, it might be

736
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: a little bit different because we have the four thirty game.

737
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: This is going to be a one pm game. But

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Speaker 1: in terms of the elements, in terms of getting back

739
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Speaker 1: to the East Coast with the cooler air, a damper ground,

740
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: the potential to have some precipitation. You know, we were

741
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: preparing for that game. It didn't as it related to

742
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: the jet contest. But I do think that there's some

743
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Speaker 1: common ground because of the geographics of where we're going,

744
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: and I think having the experience going up to New

745
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: York and going to Philly this week will help our players.

746
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Speaker 1: I'm sure during the season you're looking at your roster

747
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: is saying, well, this is what we're going to want

748
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: to do in the offseason to a degree in general terms,

749
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: like we might want to add this or that or

750
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Speaker 1: the other thing. How do you do that through the

751
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: course of the year or do you wait till after

752
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: the year to really get into that. It's a week

753
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: to week evaluation. You know, we're always evaluating our players,

754
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: not just on Sundays. You know, we're evaluating our players

755
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: for the whole practice week and evaluating young players, our

756
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: middle aged players, or experienced players. And we're always building

757
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: a contingency plan number one for in season issues anytime

758
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: the roster has any issues that we have to upgrade

759
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: or deal with as it relates to injuries and roster changes.

760
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: But we're always thinking about twenty nineteen, always thinking about

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00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. We have a fully fully coordinated effort with

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00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: our player personnel department in terms of how we evaluate

763
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: our players, who's going to be available in the draft,

764
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: what's available in free agency. Equally, we're doing that with

765
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: Chris Olson, our VP of football Administration. And managers are

766
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: a capine contract, So Bill and I are communicating every

767
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: week about what we would say, team needs, team must,

768
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: team needs, the things that we have to address now,

769
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: the things that we have to address in the short

770
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: term future, and then the things we have to address

771
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: in the long term future. And then once the season concludes,

772
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Speaker 1: Bill and I will meet and he'll meet with his staff,

773
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: I'll meet with my staff, and we'll come together and

774
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: build consensus about the things that we have to do

775
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: to help improve the roster and make it stronger and

776
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: to build a playoff championship caliber roster. I've asked you

777
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: something like this before, but I just find it interesting

778
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: how on special teams you're doing so much better than

779
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: previous years and you have a lot of guys that

780
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: you picked up along the way, maybe right after training camp.

781
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: When you look at the AJ Moore's and Buddy Howe's

782
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: of the world, then you have DeAndre Carter now is

783
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: really providing a spark for you in the ground in

784
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: the return game. So what about that part of it

785
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: being able to find those diamonds in the rough so

786
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: to speak. Yeah, First and foremost great partnership with coach

787
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: O'Brien and Coach Sealeys of wanting to upgrade and improve

788
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: the player acquisition plous process the talent pool for the

789
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: fourth down roles. That was item number one when we

790
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: discussed this in January and February. Item number two was

791
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: trying to put an emphasis on the skill and big

792
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: skill players who we had visions of for special teams,

793
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: on height, weight, speed, because when you're playing special teams,

794
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: you're covering a lot of ground, a lot of range.

795
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: You got to be able to tack on open space.

796
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: You got to have physical and mental toughness. Those things

797
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: are critically important. Put a heavy emphasis on that at

798
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: the fifty three man cutdown as well, so we're able

799
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: to get more players into the building that we thought

800
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: could help us on fourth down and maybe play offensive

801
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: and defensive roles equally as much. But I think the

802
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: emphasis on the prototypical standards, just getting more height, weight

803
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: speed for guys that can come in and play fourth

804
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: down roles allowed us to put maybe more guys on

805
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: the field that could cover more ground at a faster pace.

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Speaker 1: Let me throw this one at you. Yeah, if I said,

807
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: all right, a game has been played, and I just

808
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: give you the box score and you didn't see the

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00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: game at all other than the score itself, what's the

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Speaker 1: stat Give me a stat that you're looking forward to

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Speaker 1: give you a big clue as to how the game went,

812
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Speaker 1: maybe more than anything else or what shines above other

813
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: than the final score of the game. Twenty nine points.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna that's what we scored. We scored

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Speaker 1: twenty nine points. I think the way I said it earlier,

816
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: it was just how we started and how we finished

817
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: the game. If you look at the first four drives

818
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Speaker 1: on offense, unfortunately it didn't go well for us in

819
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: the red zone, but we put together four scoring drives.

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00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: And equally, if you look at how our defense started

821
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: the game three and out. Now the next drive maybe

822
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that the end result wasn't good enough because we

823
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: had three defensive penalties, but the third defensive drive fum

824
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: will recovery fourth defensive drive three and out, and then

825
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: they just think about how the game finished and when

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Speaker 1: the game was on the line, our starting quarterback and

827
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: our offensive guys all went out there and scored the

828
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown, and our defense went out there in

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Speaker 1: their response to our offensive touchdown and got the stops

830
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Speaker 1: that we needed to get the victory. Bryan, thanks a lot,

831
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: good luck this week. Thank you. I just love the

832
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: process of team building and what goes into it, the

833
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: free agency, the draft, the studying and the research you

834
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: have to do before you bring players in. You sign

835
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: players and you bring them to your organization. And when

836
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: you look at the players that the Texans signed last year,

837
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: Snail Kellamette, Zach Fulton jumped in on the offensive line.

838
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Colvin made a huge play to the night against

839
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: the Jets, and hopefully we'll see more football from him

840
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: coming forward. Tyrann Matthew, my goodness, the badger himself. I

841
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: just love the process of putting it all together and

842
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: how much a guy gets paid and that's what that's

843
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: gonna bean in a cap and all that you put

844
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: all that together. I just love that process. There's something

845
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: about it that to me is just I love it.

846
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: It's the best and hopefully going forward, the Texans have

847
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: built this team for the short term and the long

848
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: term and it can be an organization that we're talking

849
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: about in December and January and on into February for

850
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: a very very long time. All Right, we got to

851
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: get to our second hour of Texans All Access. In

852
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: that hour, we're gonna talk about the Eagles with Merrill Reese.

853
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Eagles with Mark Vandomir, and

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna talk about the Eagles and a bowl

855
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: game He's called a Night with our buddy Andre Ware.

856
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Speaker 1: All of that in our second hour of Texans All Access,

857
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Speaker 1: and we will kick it off with the legendary Merrill Reese.

858
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles played by play voice for the last forty years.

859
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Speaker 1: We'll join Mark right here on Texans All Access. Let's

860
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: kick off the second hour of this show with our

861
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Speaker 1: men behind the mics. It's a fun one. Mark Vandomir

862
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: catching up with a longtime voice of the Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 1: Meryll Reese. It's a pleasure to have you answer. How

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Speaker 1: are you doing? It's great, Mark, just doing finely the

865
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Speaker 1: last few weeks. Well, it's a strange season for the

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Speaker 1: Eagles coming off the win in the Super Bowl, meryls.

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Speaker 1: So tell me something. How surprised are you the way

868
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: that things have gone on this year for the Philadelphia Eagles. Hell,

869
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's a complicated answer. It really is, because yes,

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00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: they were the Super Bowl champions. They were phenomenal last year.

871
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: But this is not the same team that was present

872
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: on February fourth when they beat the Patriots in Minneapolis.

873
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: It's a different team. I mean Garner players like le

874
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt who played a big role on that team.

875
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: He's gone. Brent Selleck retired, Both Allen who was an

876
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: important part of the defensive line rotation, he is gone,

877
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: Tory Smith is gone. I can add others. I mean

878
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: there were players that were key members of that team

879
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: who were gone. I mean, Jaya Ji came into the season,

880
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: but he got hurt. Corey Clement came into the season

881
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: and he got hurt. And then you add a couple

882
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: of coaches. Frank Reich, who's now the head coach to

883
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: the Colts, had the quarterback coach, John d. Philippo who

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Speaker 1: went to Minneapolis, went to Minnesota as the offensive coordinator,

885
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: and then he is out of Minneapolis. That happened a

886
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But the entire dynamic, the entire

887
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: the whole group of players, it has changed significantly. So

888
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: that's why when people say, well, how come the Super

889
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Bowl champion hasn't been more representative of that team? It's

890
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: not that team. But in the last month or so,

891
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: they have played better football. They are getting better and

892
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: that's something to see. But they here. I'll give you

893
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: another reason. Another thing is the fact that last year

894
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: they had their share of injuries, but they were really

895
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: in different departments. They lost their left tackle. Anytime they

896
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: leaves a guy like Jason Peters, it's a significant loss.

897
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: They lost their best linebacker, Jordan Hicks, for the season.

898
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: They lost their best professional teamer in Chris Maragos. They

899
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Speaker 1: even lost their kicker, Caleb Sturgis. They lost a lot

900
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: of different players, but it was one from each position.

901
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: This year. They had so many injuries concentrated in the

902
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: same department in the secondary, and that's a difficult thing

903
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: when you have trouble figuring out who you're going a

904
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Speaker 1: lineup each week in the secondary, in the corners, in

905
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: the safety voice of the Philadelphiagles, Meryl Rees joining us

906
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: on Texans Radio the win over the Rams. How much

907
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: of a surprise was it to you? I know you

908
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: said they've been playing better at times lately, but that

909
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: was a huge upset. I wouldn't have picked it. I'm

910
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: not a betting man, but I certainly wouldn't have bet

911
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: the house on it. But I felt looking if the

912
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: Eagles went after it, then they played will anything can happen?

913
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: I remember? I mean when you've done games for a

914
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Speaker 1: long time, as I have, you go into a situation

915
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: and you know that anything can happen. I know that

916
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Speaker 1: you have to feel that in your framework reference too,

917
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: where you go into a game that you think this

918
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Speaker 1: is going to be show up and you're going to

919
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: beat the sport team that's got all kinds of injuries,

920
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: and suddenly you find the upset take place, or you

921
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: go into a game where you are convinced but there's

922
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Speaker 1: no way, and then it goes the other way. You

923
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: just never know what's going to occur when you go

924
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: to a stadium nick falls. It's an interesting drama that

925
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: he comes in again late in the season with a

926
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Speaker 1: lot on the line. What are you seeing from him

927
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: this time around? Well, he distributed the ball. Doug pointed

928
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 1: out the Piggerson pointed out of one of the press

929
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: conferences that Nick Foles was a basketball player, basketball player

930
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: growing up along with a quarterback in the Texas area,

931
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Speaker 1: and he said that basketball experience comes in because he's

932
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: like the point guard. He's distributing the ball. He's letting

933
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Speaker 1: others make the plays. And that's what he did. He

934
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: didn't panic, he was very much under control. He found

935
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Speaker 1: his open receivers, He went downfield when he could to

936
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Speaker 1: Alshon Jeffries, who made some tremendous receptions. And Nick Foles

937
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: is a winner. He's a guy who has a lot

938
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Speaker 1: of experience and there's a certain calm about him. And

939
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: he went about his business and did just a great job,

940
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: made one mistake, one interception against the Rams. Other than that,

941
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: he played a great game. Meryll Reeve's voice of the

942
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: Philadelphi Eagles, joining us on Texans Radio. All right, let

943
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: me get some history from you here in your opinion,

944
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: you were there for the Super Bowl, lost to the

945
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Speaker 1: Raiders with Jaworski at quarterback, and also obviously Donovan McNabb

946
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: losing to the newing the Patriots in Jacksonville. Can you

947
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: compare and contrast those two in terms of the emotions

948
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: involved getting to the Super Bowl? They're both losses, but

949
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: it was great to get there. Can you discuss that? Yeah?

950
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Speaker 1: And that was the case. They got to the Super

951
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: Bowl against the Raiders. That was after the nineteen eighties season,

952
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: and everybody thought they were going to win that game.

953
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they had beaten the Raiders once during the

954
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: regular season, and they were never really in that game.

955
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: They came out, there were some interceptions, nothing worked for

956
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: the team that day, and that was a tremendous, tremendous letdown.

957
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: It really was. It was. It was something that the

958
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Speaker 1: city carried around almost to the following season. The game

959
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Patriots in Jacksonville. That was a

960
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: game that nobody was confident about. I'm talking about the fans,

961
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: the media, because the Patriots are in the Patriots, and

962
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: people still point their fingers at Donovan McNabb, But I

963
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: don't think it was Donovan McNabb. Donovan McNabb was under

964
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: pressure all day. He did not get the blocking that

965
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: he needed, and Tom Brady could have stood back there

966
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: and read Warren Peace and still had time to look

967
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: up and find the receiver. So it was the Patriots.

968
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: The fingers still pointed at McNabb, But the Patriots with

969
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: a better team probably that season and that day, this

970
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: time again they went up against the mighty Patriots. But

971
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: the way this team moved through the season, the way

972
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: that even after Carson Wentz went down and Nick Foles

973
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: got them through that Rams game and picked things up

974
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: and won the opening game of the playoffs, everything worked out.

975
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: It was the perfect storm where they got the buy,

976
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: they got the Falcons, which everybody thought was the best

977
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: matchup in the opening game, and they won that. Fortunately,

978
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: a last second pass went awry that certainly could have

979
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: changed that game, but the Eagles had what it took

980
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: and they went and they won that game next week.

981
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: I think it could have been a different game if

982
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: indeed the Saints came here. But the Vikings stole the

983
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: game miraculously from the Saints. So Minnesota came in, got

984
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: off to a great start, Eagles came back. Patrick Robinson

985
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: intercepted a pass and took it for a fifty yard touchdown,

986
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: and from there on in the Vikings were out of it.

987
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: I mean, the Eagles just absolutely robbed to a win.

988
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: After that win, I truly believed, and I think so

989
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: did the lesions of fans that this was the Eagles year.

990
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: And it certainly wasn't easy. I mean that went to

991
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: the final play, but a lot of us felt that

992
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: this was finally going to be the Eagles Super Bowl,

993
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: and certainly we were not disappointed. Voice of the Philadelphia Eagles,

994
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: Merrill Reese, joining us on Texans Radio. From the outside

995
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: looking in, it feels like Dick vermil is more loved

996
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia than Andy Reid. Is that the case? Yes,

997
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saving that saying that Andy Reid didn't have

998
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: his fans, and there is still a lot of us

999
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: here who admire, respect highly evaluate Andy Reid. But I

1000
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: always felt that Andy Reid with the media at his

1001
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: press conference, at his weekly press conferences. And you know

1002
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: as well as I do, this is the way coaches

1003
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: communicate to the fans. You know that Andy didn't enjoy it.

1004
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: And Andy was a quiet guy on camera, not very emotional,

1005
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: thick with the opposite. If you look in the dictionary

1006
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: under the word charisma, it's a great, big picture of

1007
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: Dick Formil. He had tremendous charisma, He had tremendous passion,

1008
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: He was emotional. He would cry after wins as well

1009
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: as cry after losses. I think he cried more after wins.

1010
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: But did Formil just connected with this entire study and

1011
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: he still does. His picture are upland billboards for a

1012
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: Blue Cross for which he is a spokesman. And Dick

1013
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: Vermeille still lives in this area, came back to this area,

1014
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: never left it, had a permanent house here. So you're

1015
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: talking about a guy who just totally connected with this city.

1016
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: But that takes nothing away from Andy Reid, who has

1017
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: more wins than any coach in Eagles history, who when

1018
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: you know him, is just a great person and has

1019
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: been a tremendous success. The only thing he didn't do

1020
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: here was win a Super Bowl. Mary, you're a unique

1021
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: individual in that you're the voice of an NFL team

1022
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: and you're also an owner of a radio station in

1023
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia area. Tell us about that, well, I have

1024
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: a managing partner. I am a managing partner of a

1025
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Speaker 1: radio station WBCB in Levittown, which is a Philadelphia suburb,

1026
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: and I've been part of that for twenty two years now.

1027
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: It's a station that I worked on earlier in my

1028
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: career and came back many years later, about twenty five

1029
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: years ago, to become a managing partner, and I go

1030
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: up there every day. I actually act as vice president

1031
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: general manager. And then during the football season, I leave

1032
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: after a sales meeting, I come down and I spend

1033
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: the day with the Eagles off and go back there.

1034
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: Do a show on there once a week during the season,

1035
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: and love working with the young people who are trying

1036
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: to get started in the broadcast business. And it's also

1037
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 1: an online television station. We do as many as six

1038
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: or seven high school football games online on a weekend.

1039
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: We do quite a few schools basketball games. We do wrestling,

1040
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: we do hockey, We do a lot of things up there.

1041
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun and I just love the

1042
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: experience of getting up there and working with the young people. Marl,

1043
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: you're one of my big influences. Even though you don't

1044
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: know this, but I always wanted to be the voice

1045
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: of a team and stay that way for a long

1046
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: period of time, which is obviously something you have done.

1047
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: And clearly you must have had opportunities to do some

1048
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: other things along the way, play by playwise that might

1049
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: have taken you away from the Eagles. So why and

1050
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: how have you stuck with it so long being the

1051
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: voice of this NFL franchise. Well, to be honest with you,

1052
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: I have had opportunities to work for eight other teams,

1053
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: eight or nine, I forget, it's been so often over

1054
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: the years. And I have also had the opportunity to

1055
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: work for the network television stations networks as one of

1056
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: their guys. But this has always been my dream, and

1057
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: the Eagles have always been my team growing up, to

1058
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 1: be able to travel half the time that you would

1059
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: if you were a network telecaster. And also it was

1060
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: CBS radio now it's Entercom Radio. They have always made

1061
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: sure that I am happy in every possible way, So

1062
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: it's it's been a dream come true. And when people

1063
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: say to me, how long would you like to do this?

1064
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: When are you going to retire, and they say it

1065
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: in a respectful way, I say, I'm going to do this.

1066
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: I want to do this forever, and the word retirement

1067
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: is not in my vocabulary. I see the field better

1068
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: than I have ever seen it. I understand the game

1069
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: better every year. I prepare harder every year than I

1070
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: did the year before. There is no job in the

1071
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: world quite like it. I mark. I am a very,

1072
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: very passionate golfer. In the spring and summer, I may

1073
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: fit in one hundred rounds of golf. But I want

1074
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: to tell you something. If we were a choice of

1075
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: playing Augusta or broadcasting an NFL game, the NFL game

1076
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: wins hands down, But one a might be playing playing

1077
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: golf the great courses, like Marion, I love it. I

1078
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: love it all right. One more for you, the NFC East.

1079
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody thinks their biggest rival is Dallas.

1080
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Who's the biggest rival of the Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas? You

1081
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 1: asked the fans, They'll tell you Dallas. But the team

1082
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: I roote more against the Dallas Now. I don't know

1083
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: how many times you've done this. The team I root

1084
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: against more than they do the Dallas Cowboys, it's the

1085
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. And the reason for that is have you

1086
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: worked a Redskins game at FedEx Fields. It's the worst

1087
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: place in the world, and I feel bad for you

1088
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: that you're in the division and have to go there

1089
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: once a year. It's terrible. That view is off the

1090
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: quarter of the end zone, low enough to the people

1091
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: yell and scream at us. I've overhang the province us

1092
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: from seeing the scoreboard, and when someone runs to our

1093
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: right across the fifty, I can't tell if they've picked

1094
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: up six yards or sixteen yards. I root against the

1095
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: Redskins and Daniel Snyder, you're my personal rival as far

1096
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys are concerned. I understand the fans and

1097
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: everything else, but believe me, the Redskins of the team

1098
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: I've at least liked to see win. Excellent stuff. Thank

1099
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: you so much for being with us today. Mar I'll

1100
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you on Sunday. I look forward

1101
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: to seeing you Mark. I know I've listened to you often.

1102
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: You do just a red well. Thank you so much.

1103
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you know what. Let's talk to Mark

1104
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: about that next right here on Texans All Access. Welcome

1105
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: back to Wednesday initiative Texans All Access for from the

1106
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: Hounday Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, John Harris,

1107
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: glad to be with you, Joined right now by the

1108
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: voice of Texans Mark Van Mrk. How are you, Johnny.

1109
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I'm pumped for this game this Sunday.

1110
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I'm envious why you got to talk

1111
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: to Merril Reese. Oh, Merril Reese, how was that? I'm

1112
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: telling him it was great. I mean, it was my

1113
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: new hero in life. He really is. I uh, you know,

1114
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: the guy's been doing it since nineteen seventy seven. So

1115
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: he jumped in right as they were getting it going

1116
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: in the Invincible Vince Papali era. And then they go

1117
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl with Ron Jaworski and they lose,

1118
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: and he talks about that, and I wanted them to

1119
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: compare to the two super Bowl losses because they had

1120
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: McNabb losing to Brady you know four, and the risky

1121
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: Jim Plunkett won. And that was a Super Bowl where

1122
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: Dan Pastorini could have would have should have played for

1123
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Remember he got traded there, but he got

1124
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: hurt and Plunkett takes over and they went the Super Bowl.

1125
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: So it's just a lot of Houston connections in that way,

1126
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: and just interesting to get his perspective on Philadelphia. What

1127
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: when you talking? Because I'm the one who gave you

1128
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: this homework assignment a few years ago and you you

1129
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: have been one hundred percent since. Has there been anybody?

1130
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: Is he? Is he one of those? Because I know

1131
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: from me I've been listening to all the NFL films

1132
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: calls and you and I talk about that a lot,

1133
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: about the fact that I was driving. I was driving

1134
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: yesterday and Obe was going on the show with Jim

1135
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: and Pat, Jim Miller and Pat Herwin moving moving the

1136
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: chains yea. And it now bothers me because you told

1137
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: me this long time ago. It's not a chaine, it's

1138
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: a chain. Yeah, but it's there's no way to get

1139
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: it out of the football vernacular. So I'm in the

1140
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: car and I'm driving, and all of a sudden, you

1141
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: just pop on the screen and you just pop up

1142
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: up yeah, And I hear you make that call, And

1143
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: I think it's so cool with the NFL films, what

1144
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: they've been doing Look, we've been watching film films for

1145
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: a long time. I've heard Merril Reese's voice for so long.

1146
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: Has there been anybody that you've talked to like I've

1147
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: always wanted to talk to this guy. He's like he's

1148
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: one of them. Job, there's no question I think he

1149
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: might be the one now. When we started doing this,

1150
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: Gil Santos was already gone from the Patriots, although I

1151
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: have interviewed him before, and he's one of the guys

1152
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: that I've known the longest because I reached out to

1153
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: him when I was at Central Michigan, before I was

1154
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: at U Mass and then I got the U Mass job,

1155
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: and Caliperry actually asked him about me, and I didn't

1156
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: even know this, and Gil gave a good word for

1157
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: me to Caliperry, and you know that means a lot

1158
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: to me. But Merril Reese, he's been the voice of

1159
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles, like I said, since seventy seven, and he's

1160
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: never wanted to do anything else. And I love that

1161
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: because that's how I felt about coming here. I never

1162
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: really wanted to do anything else. What am I doing?

1163
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: Some other stuff along with it, but never wanted to

1164
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: do anything else. This is what I want to do

1165
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: and I can relate to him in that way. And

1166
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: he's managing partner of a radio station and Levittown and

1167
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: they also have an online TV station. He calls it

1168
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: with a broadcast high school football game, so he's busy

1169
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: with a lot of stuff. He's seventy six years old,

1170
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: still going strong, and he talks about it. It was

1171
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: a wonderful visit with him. To win a Super Bowl. Now, Look,

1172
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: I'd like for the Texas to win a Super Bowl

1173
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: before any of us approached that age. But I can

1174
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: imagine when you're calling a team's game and you have

1175
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: experienced this. I've been around it a short amount of time,

1176
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: but I feel kind of the same given the people

1177
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: that we know in the building. But I can imagine

1178
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: when that ball hits the ground for them last year,

1179
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: what that moment must have been like for him to

1180
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: call the Eagles or Super Bowl champions Have you in

1181
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: your mind at some point thought about what you'll say

1182
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: when it happens one day? You know, I've more thought

1183
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: about what I would say if they win the AFC championship.

1184
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: You know. Interesting, I've definitely thought about that job because

1185
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: that to me, Houston, it's been there before, but it's

1186
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: never gotten through right to the big one, and just

1187
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: to get I feel like Wilfred Brimley in the Natural

1188
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: toward the end, remember where he's shaving getting ready for

1189
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: that last game, that playoff game, and Redford shows up

1190
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: the Natural and Brimley's telling his assistant, Hey, I just

1191
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get to the series. Didn't care

1192
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: about winning it. Just wanted to win the Pettitt just

1193
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: one time, you know. And and I do care about

1194
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: winning the super Bowl, but I want to win the

1195
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game and I want to get there, you know,

1196
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: and then we'll worry about that. Then. I really don't

1197
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: know why what I would say and some of the

1198
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: things I think I might say if they win the

1199
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: AFC Championship listen to me, like just stop me right now.

1200
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: But you know, because I know eventually it's gonna happen. Please,

1201
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: eventually it's gonna happen in our time. And I just

1202
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll say him or not, because the moment,

1203
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, is it a kneel down, is it turnover

1204
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: on downs? Is it a field goal? You know, who

1205
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: knows how it happens. So let's just see yeah, I

1206
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: mean I thought about that. I'll take any one of those.

1207
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: By the way, which way he can make it happen,

1208
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't care. It can be a game winning safety

1209
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: for all I care. It doesn't really I mean that

1210
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: that would be the most pro apropo way. They punt

1211
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: Trevor Daniel punts it down inside the five and then

1212
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: they get a safety to I mean, yeah, I take it.

1213
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care how it happens. I

1214
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: just you know, I want it to happen. As a

1215
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: play by play guy, though, I can tell you right

1216
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: now you don't want it to be quirky and funky

1217
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: and like you don't want there to be You don't

1218
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: want there to be any doubt. You don't want it

1219
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: to be like Zach Cunningham. Uh, they rule him out

1220
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: at the one, but he really did get the touchdown,

1221
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: but they didn't call it a touchdown, and then my

1222
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,479
Speaker 1: call is blown. Oh, Brad Allen stepped on your jj

1223
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: WA sack called the other day too. He did. He

1224
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: jumped all in it. You had a great call going

1225
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: and then he jumped right in yeah because what oh yeah,

1226
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: because you played it, grabbed Darnold and the ball would

1227
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: pop it out into the air, and as it's in

1228
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: the air, the progress at the cornerback was slow. Like,

1229
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: shut up, we already know he saw it earlier in

1230
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: the game with the seaun So when you and I

1231
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: start talking about this twenty eighteen season and we'll never

1232
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: get we sat in here, got the schedule, and we

1233
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,479
Speaker 1: sat in here. We were kind of that, so what's

1234
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: going through a game by game? But we were just

1235
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: looking at where certain teams were where the prime time games,

1236
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: and we do that every year. And then we looked

1237
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: at this part of the schedule and I remember saying

1238
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: to you, this is good, and you're like, good, we

1239
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: gotta go to Philly. Well, yeah, I know, we gotta

1240
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: go to Philly. But look when it is. It's week sixteen.

1241
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: This game, this game very easily could mean nothing, and

1242
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: I remember you said, yeah, it could mean everything. And

1243
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: it's worked out all week. I thought, this thing is

1244
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna work out exactly the way that I saw it,

1245
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: and that is Philly dead. The loose to the Rams.

1246
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, well winner win or not against Indianapolis doesn't matter.

1247
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: Philadelphia lose to the Rams and this one's over. Yeah,

1248
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: and that's it and then Philly won't care. Let's go

1249
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: through the motions, hopefully get a W and easy W

1250
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: come back for Jacksonville, and finish this thing up now

1251
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: Philadelphia wins, and this one's as important a football game

1252
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: as we've played in a long time. This to me,

1253
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: will have a playoff game like feel. In a non

1254
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: playoff game, it will be it's the holiday and not

1255
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: that the Eagles needed, but they'll be so pumped up

1256
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: their fan base for this game that they're still alive

1257
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: going into this thing. And you know, it's possible, Johnny,

1258
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: that when the Texans take the field, they will have

1259
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: already clinched a playoff berth if the Ravens lose on

1260
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: Saturday Night. But let's be honest, that's just the wild

1261
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: card worst case scenario. And I don't think it's gonna

1262
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: demotivate anybody went in deep Steel blue. They're gonna be

1263
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: fully focused because they know what's at stake here. And

1264
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I just think the Eagles are a

1265
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: tough team. I think with Nick Foles it defies logic,

1266
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: but there's something about him. There's something about this team

1267
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: with him this time of year. Now, when I say

1268
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: this team. Merrill was quick to point out in eight

1269
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles I won the Super Bowl. It's a different

1270
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: Eagle squad, but you do have some of the same

1271
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: characters there for sure. And the way they played against

1272
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: the Rams, and you know, the Rams wanted that one back.

1273
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: They need to get well, and they hardly looked at

1274
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: Sunday night. I mean, and another's tangent here. This league

1275
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: is absolutely nuts. Absolutely When you the Saints on Monday

1276
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: Night just sealed it for me. The craziness and look,

1277
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: time and time again, we're reminded, but we're re reminded

1278
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: that it's any given Sunday, it's you're only as good

1279
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: as your last down. Basically, look at the way the

1280
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: Saints played on Monday night, so easily could have lost

1281
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: that game to Carolina. Now they didn't, so you give

1282
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: them credit for it. But who's looking real good right now?

1283
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: The Cults are looking pretty good to me. But you know,

1284
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago they were just blanked by the

1285
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 1: Jaguars six nothing. Yeah, And that's the point that I've

1286
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: made as I've done various interviews and such name a

1287
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: team that isn't flawed in some way, shape or form,

1288
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of people say, well, what about the Saints.

1289
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, the Saints have gone on the road

1290
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: the last two times and scored ten points at Dallas

1291
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: in twelve points at Carolina. Yeah, against teams that are

1292
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: good defensively but not great defensively. So there's that. But yeah,

1293
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: do you really want to face Drew Brees in a

1294
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: playoff situation down in the Dome? No? No, nobody wants

1295
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: to be there. But that's probably, I guess, the least

1296
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: flawed team. I mean, you can go. I mean, Patriots

1297
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: have flaws and I saw this before we the Steelers

1298
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: have plenty of flaws. The Chiefs, I mean, Chris Jones

1299
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: had a heck of a year. He should have gone

1300
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. But that said, other than Chris Jones,

1301
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: D four can get after a little bit. Justice Heston

1302
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: isn't quite the same. But are you worried about that secondary?

1303
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: Even with Eric Barry no linebackers, No, you can move

1304
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: the football on them. The Chargers. The Chargers are maybe

1305
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: the most complete team, but you and I both know

1306
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: covering this league for as long as we have, the

1307
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: Chargers will kick rocks at some point. They always have.

1308
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: There's always been something about that team. Now, maybe Anthony

1309
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: Len's got him doing something different, but that Chargers team,

1310
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: as good as it's looked, We've seen them do that

1311
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: over the years, where they look really good and then

1312
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they get beat by the Raiders. Yeah,

1313
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: which is what It'll be weird, So you know, I

1314
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: then again, I would love to see the La Chargers

1315
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: playing in that stadium with the number one seed. That

1316
01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: would be It would be incredible, absolutely incredible. But that said,

1317
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: I think every team in the league has flowed. It

1318
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: goes to your point of any given Sunday, it doesn't matter.

1319
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: And that's why the people that say, well this is

1320
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: luck what Texans are doing. Look, you're winning games in

1321
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: a league where it can happen anywhere anytime. There's there's

1322
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee. And I think what we're gonna do

1323
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: at one point years down the road, even though I

1324
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: know you hate them like poison, We're gonna look back

1325
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: at what the Patriots did and just marvel. We're gonna

1326
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: marvel and look at how did they do that? For

1327
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: so long? They were so good for so long. I

1328
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: hate to say were because you know and I know

1329
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: that as bad as it looks right now. I will

1330
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: not pronounce them dead until they are dead. I mean,

1331
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: until it is done. They are put away in a

1332
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: drawer for whatever part of the season they exit, because

1333
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: right now it's iffy for them. You know, it's so

1334
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: bizarre for the Texans to be in this particular position

1335
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: in the two spots in the AFC. But that can

1336
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: change in a big hurry. You don't take care of

1337
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: your business, and they do. And they've got the Jets

1338
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: and the Bills on the way out right. Look, you

1339
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: know you'd favor them obviously in those games. And this

1340
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be tough this weekend. I just think it's

1341
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: just one of those weeks. Enjoy the week. I say

1342
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: this almost every week, but folks, enjoy the week and

1343
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: enjoy football season. This is what it's about. Get pumped

1344
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: up for this weekend because it's like a playoff game.

1345
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: It really is. Yeah, And the seven and seven record

1346
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: is sort of deceiving for Philadelphia on one hand. But

1347
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: to Merrill's point on the other hand, I think I

1348
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: think the Eagles championship in some ways is worth a

1349
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: little bit of I'm not sure the right way of

1350
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: saying this, but I think it's worth a point or

1351
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: two just in that you look over there and you're like, oh,

1352
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: I see the same guys that won that championship. I

1353
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: see the same guys that won a super expectation. Maybe yeah,

1354
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: And I think there's probably some of that. You're gonna

1355
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: look cross and you're gonna see Brandon Brooks, one of

1356
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: the best guards in the league, and then wait when

1357
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: you step back and go, wait a second, but he

1358
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: was with us. We've seen him before, Like, we know

1359
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: that guy, so we can go against that guy. So

1360
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm curious how this just all kind of plays out

1361
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: this weekend against the Eagles. But I think Merrill's right

1362
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: on one hand, especially in the secondary. They they've struggled,

1363
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: But can you get the ball off? Jared Goff couldn't.

1364
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: Goff couldn't for a long time in that game until

1365
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: Philly kind of went to prevent defense in the fourth

1366
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: quarter and almost killed him. But he could get the

1367
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: ball off. Fletcher Cox was dominating, dominating, But they're just

1368
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: all round, not as clean as they were last year.

1369
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: They weren't getting that that bounce that they got every

1370
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: every game last year. But I will say when Foles

1371
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: came in Foles gets a lot of credit and should

1372
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: for his Super Bowl performance, right, and he played a

1373
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: really good NFC Championship game, But Foles did not play

1374
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: a great divisional round. He did okay against the Falcons,

1375
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: and the games after he came in for Wance he

1376
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: was okay. So my hope is that, Yeah, he went

1377
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: into that Rams game and I'm sure he probably knew

1378
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the week, but okay, you're just

1379
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: going on adrenaline. You're going now, it settles in that. Okay,

1380
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: you're the guy and the pressure's all on you. Hopefully

1381
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: hopefully he recognized is that and it's like, oh, maybe

1382
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: he crumbles a little bit. I don't see it happening,

1383
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: but it's kind of my hope. Well, what can you

1384
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: do to their blocking whatever they throw at you, as

1385
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 1: far as protecting folds in whatever passing game they put together,

1386
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: I know they run it by committee. What can you

1387
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: throw at them? The Texans are very good against the run.

1388
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: You don't have a stud back for the Philadelphia Eagles.

1389
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: Foles does get the ball off fast, but you gotta

1390
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: find a way to get to them. Yeah, no doubt,

1391
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that they'll out

1392
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: to figure out early on, and I could see this

1393
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: on tape against the Rams. Wherever Donald lined up, Now

1394
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: this will be a little different because the Texans are

1395
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: more even or I'm sorry odd front three four front,

1396
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: but the Rams being in playing a little bit more

1397
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: even though it's a three to four, it's kind of

1398
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips three four which kind of morphs into a

1399
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: four three. So wherever Aaron Donald lined up, that's where

1400
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey went. Kelsey went to help on Donald the

1401
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: whole time. So my guess is if JJ, like on

1402
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,759
Speaker 1: that drive at the end of the game, JJ bumped inside,

1403
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: my guess is that Kelsey will go inside or we'll

1404
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: go to the side of JJ watt and if he

1405
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 1: does that, now you're one on one on the backside

1406
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: with Covington, Clowney, Merciless, Covington Covington, Yeah, Covington, Merciless. It

1407
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: could be any of those two, but it's two on

1408
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: two and it becomes ultra important for those two guys

1409
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: to win one on one battles because JJ is now

1410
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna get double team because Kelsey's gonna slide to his side.

1411
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: The other aspect of it is if you know Kelsey's

1412
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: going that way, then you start bringing b Mac, you

1413
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: start bringing Zach Cunningham, you may be free up a

1414
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: guy that way. So to me, I don't want to

1415
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: say Wad ends up being a decoy. But when he

1416
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: goes inside, he's gonna get some help. Like Aaron Donald

1417
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: got help, and the Eagles did a hell of a

1418
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: job on the Rams defensive front. Donald did pretty much

1419
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: nothing in that game, but his presence was big because

1420
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: the Eagles had that account for him. But they've got

1421
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: to get back there. The other good thing is and

1422
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: you know as well as I do, because back here

1423
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, Nick Foles, after the Texas had taken

1424
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: a lead, what do you do? He wound up and

1425
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: through that sucker deep and he's gonna do it again.

1426
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw the ball deep. He wants to throw

1427
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: the ball deep, and he'll take a shot too. He

1428
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 1: will throw the ball deep and they can't get beat

1429
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: by that, and that pressure could if they if he

1430
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: does throw it deep, has to hold a little bit.

1431
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: Maybe that pressure gets to him and to get a

1432
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: mistake in their hands. Yeah, I don't think this seven

1433
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: and seven record means anything. I don't think there're ten

1434
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: and four and a few games go in either direction.

1435
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Eagles have similar stories in a negative way.

1436
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: So you don't read too much into the record. You

1437
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: read into the capability, and there's plenty of capability. I

1438
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: was talking about it last night. It's like, all right,

1439
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: so maybe there's a there are a couple of teams

1440
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: in the NFL that are bad. I'll put that in

1441
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 1: air quotes, but they can still beat you and anybody

1442
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: who's twenty eighth, twenty seven, twenty six, and whatever kind

1443
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: of power rankings, however you would do it record wise

1444
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: or whatever. They can beat number one, they can certainly

1445
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: do it. They could certainly beat number five, number six,

1446
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: number seven, where the Texans might be ranked in these

1447
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: mythical rankings. Yeah, no doubt. Did you see I don't

1448
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: know if you saw this. I tweeted this out one night.

1449
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: It's got this thing thinking about something. I think it

1450
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: was maybe a week ago, but I essentially did the

1451
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: transitive property for the entire NFL. Okay, And so I

1452
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: started I started trying to think, who's the I think

1453
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: I started with the Lions. I think the Lions was

1454
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: who I was starting with, and I went team by

1455
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: team and I basically did the entire NFL on a

1456
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: big transitive circle loop, which is to your point, yeah,

1457
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: anybody can be I think I start with the Raiders.

1458
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: I think I started the Raiders because the Raiders have

1459
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: just beaten the Steelers. And then I went all the

1460
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: way through. Raiders beat the Steelers, the Steelers beat the Patriots.

1461
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: What the Patriots wouldn't been in their Steelers beat such

1462
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: and such team. I went all the way through the league,

1463
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: starting with the worst team in the league, and then

1464
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: that finished. You know whoever was down at the bottom.

1465
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: They beat the you know, the Raiders. And so I

1466
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: just wanted this big loop. That's the NFL. That's what

1467
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: the NFL does. I wish I could find it. It's

1468
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: a while ago since I tweeted it, but but that's

1469
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: essentially what the league is. Anybody can beat anybody. And

1470
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 1: I just got to thinking about it. I was like,

1471
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: could I put together kind of a transitive property loop

1472
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: that put this all together? And I did, And of

1473
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: course now I can't find it now that I want

1474
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,839
Speaker 1: to talk about it. But but that's exactly easy to imagine,

1475
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: the like you just said, since the Steelers beat the

1476
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Raiders beat the Steelers. That's where you

1477
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: just start there. You're off and running. Yeah, just start

1478
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: there and go on from there. But that's just the

1479
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: way the league is. That's what they wanted from this

1480
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: league and what it's done also bears fourth to first. Yeah,

1481
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: Texans potentially fourth the first we saw the Rams do

1482
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: that in twenty seventeen. Fourth to first teams. Cleveland's eventually

1483
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: going to go from fourth to first. That's eventually going

1484
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: to happen. That's one of the best stories of the year. Yeah, absolutely, Mark, appreciate,

1485
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 1: thank you. Thanks. Coming up next and it's our good

1486
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: buddy Andre Ware right here on Texans All Access. This

1487
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: week's Stats Challenge is brought to you by Schlumberge. Visit

1488
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com today to register to take the

1489
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: stats challenge. How about twenty four and nine. It's a

1490
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,520
Speaker 1: pretty good touchdown interception ratio. If you did your reduction

1491
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: of fractions as you should, that would be an eight

1492
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: to three ratio, almost a three to one. That's pretty

1493
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: dun good ratio for a quarterback. That's what Sean Watson

1494
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: is this year with his touchdown to interception ratio. And

1495
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: over his career it has been exceptional. He is, if

1496
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm doing this right, he was nineteen to seven last year.

1497
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: He's forty three and sixteen. I think that's pretty good now,

1498
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: because one's odd number one to even number, you can't

1499
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: reduce the fractions of forty three to sixteen is a

1500
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: pretty dune good touchdown in reception ratio for a young

1501
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: quarterback like to Sean. Actually, it's a good good ratio

1502
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: for any quarterback at that matter. Speaking of quarterbacks, it's

1503
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: top for our quarterback, Andre Where to join us right

1504
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access. Joining us right now is

1505
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: Andre Where on assignment doing college football stuff. Dre, What

1506
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: bowl are you at? I am in Frisco, Texas doing

1507
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:58,799
Speaker 1: the DXL Frisco Bowl that will include San Diego State

1508
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: against Ohio the Ohio Bobcats. So two styles that are

1509
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: similar to teams that'd like to run and feature the

1510
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: run on offense. So this one, don't blink because it

1511
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: could be over relatively relatively fast. Well, I gotta tell you,

1512
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: I've been to Athens, Ohio, and you can't get there

1513
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: from here or anywhere really, and it's a good thing

1514
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: you're in Frisco instead of Athens, Ohio. That's all I

1515
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: have to say about the Bobcats. And they call it

1516
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: owe you up there. I know if you say oh

1517
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,879
Speaker 1: you on television, that's not going to be very popular,

1518
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: but they do call it O you up there. You're

1519
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: thinking the Oklahoma Sooners who are going to take on

1520
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: the Crimson Tide yep here in a few weeks. But no,

1521
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: it's not that OEU. It's Ohio University. Drey. What about

1522
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: this one on Sunday? The Philadelphia Eagles the Houston Texans,

1523
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: And how surprised were you that the Eagles were able

1524
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 1: to do what they did against the LA Ram Sunday night? Well,

1525
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: you know how afraid, I guess would be the word.

1526
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: Or cautious maybe might be a better word. Am of

1527
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 1: good backup quarterbacks and the Eagles seem to have as

1528
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: good a quarterback situation as there is in the entire NFL.

1529
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: And so when you look at it, Nick Foles as

1530
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl MVP going into that game, they weren't

1531
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: going to flinch. They weren't going to change much offensively.

1532
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: He is a guy that I think we talked and

1533
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: discussed earlier this week. They really spreads the ball around,

1534
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: so you really don't know where they're trying to attack

1535
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: you because they do it from multiple places. So when

1536
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: you have that inte in the way their defense is playing,

1537
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: especially the front seven A their weakness there on that

1538
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: side of the ball is obviously the secondary, but they're

1539
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: so good in the front seven it can cause so

1540
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: many problems. But rarely do you get a long look

1541
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 1: to push the ball down the field, and they were able,

1542
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: certainly able to do that this weekend. Trey, what are

1543
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: you seeing from Deshaun Watson at this stage of the year.

1544
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 1: He's deep into his second year. He only played six

1545
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: and a half games last year. Where is he in

1546
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: his development? Yeah? What I like most Mark is that

1547
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: he's taking care of the football for the most part.

1548
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: You know, there's mistakes here and there, but you know

1549
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: he is obviously commanding or generating offense. He's taking care

1550
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: of the ball, not trying to do too much. And

1551
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: when they're when the game's on the line in the

1552
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I don't know that there's anybody There aren't

1553
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. Certainly Tom Brady may come to

1554
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,759
Speaker 1: come to mind, Ben roethlis Burger may come to mind,

1555
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: but the son's in that conversation now because you just

1556
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: feel like, when that situation calls for it, he's going

1557
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: to come through for you. And I think the team

1558
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: has started to believe that his teammates, the coaching stuff,

1559
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: everybody believes in him as a winner and a guy

1560
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: that can get it done late in the football game

1561
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: is proven. That's proven out. You know, this is one

1562
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: of those things what you just mentioned that I think

1563
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: if you have the ability to play at the professional level,

1564
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: if you've done that what you just said in college

1565
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: where your clutch, the clutch gene does translate, but you

1566
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 1: have to have the physical skills to go with it, right, Yeah,

1567
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,879
Speaker 1: you do. But what transfers even more so is a belief,

1568
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: and it's belief from your teammates that you can get

1569
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: it done, and so their play elevates. I think we've

1570
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: seen that at times with the tight ends and with

1571
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: backs out of the back, even the offensive line, it

1572
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: seemed to go harder and clutch situations. It's because number one,

1573
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: they seemed to Sean do it before, and two, when

1574
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: he steps in the huddle and he says, hey, let's go,

1575
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: let's go be legendary, Let's let's let's let's go get

1576
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: this way. There's a belief that he's not only is

1577
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: it going to get done, but he's going to be

1578
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: a big part of the reason that it gets done.

1579
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: So that elevates the play of everybody in the huddle

1580
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: and everybody around it. Andre the Pro Bowl bids came

1581
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: out and J. J. Watt, not surprisingly is one of

1582
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: the Texans to get the nod. What about what he's

1583
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 1: been through and the fact that he's back to fourteen

1584
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: and a half sacks two games to go, what he's

1585
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: doing as an athlete and as an analyst, What do

1586
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: you make of what in twenty eighteen. Yeah, it's impressions

1587
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: and especially what he's gone through the last two seasons

1588
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 1: and and the way he's playing. Mark at this stage

1589
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: of a season, late in the year, you're coming back

1590
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: off you know, two significant injuries in back to back years,

1591
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: and it's late down the stretch when you have to

1592
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: have plays, especially that you just take last week's game

1593
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 1: against the Jets, when they have the ball and they

1594
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: the Texans really need a defensive play, Well, who was

1595
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: it is? JJ Watch stepping up making a nice play

1596
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: in the backfield. So that I think is is what

1597
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: impresses me more than anything. We kind of knew he

1598
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: would come back or felt like he could, but then

1599
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 1: the play at the end of the season, late in

1600
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: the year, when you got to have it, especially at

1601
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 1: his position, he's delivering so that that may surprise me

1602
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: more than all Right, let's flip it back over to

1603
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: offense for a moment, because with the wide receiver position,

1604
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: we obviously hope to see kiki QT. But what they're

1605
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: let's just call it the pass catching position. We've seen

1606
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: games in which the tight ends really do well, like

1607
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: against the Colts. We've seen games with Watson throwing to

1608
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins an awful lot. Actually that's pretty much every game.

1609
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: But what do you make of it as things you

1610
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: need to see here late in the regular season and

1611
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: then moving on from there provided you make it so,

1612
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: I think anytime late in the year, if you can,

1613
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,839
Speaker 1: you know, unveil a wrinkle or two at this stage

1614
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: in the season, you kind of welcome it and you'd

1615
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: like to have it. So having kiki QT late in

1616
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: the year, where it just gives a defense it's just

1617
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: one more thing to think about and have to prepare for.

1618
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: It also gives you another weapon on the offense that

1619
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 1: will allow you to do some different things. So hopefully

1620
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: he'll be ready to go. If not, then get him

1621
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: saddled up and ready for the playoffs, and then you

1622
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: unveil him in a sense where there's some trickery and

1623
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: to mind play window dressing with him and all that

1624
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 1: goes along with it. But he is a much needed

1625
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: asset that could really really help this team late in

1626
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: a year. All right, So Andre on Saturday. There's more

1627
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: Saturday football this week, but the Texans are not part

1628
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: of that. But the Ravens are going to be at

1629
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 1: the Chargers this game of significance to the Texans. You

1630
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: have two AFC playoff contenders, Chargers in obviously, but the

1631
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: Ravens hoping to get in and if the Ravens lose,

1632
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: the Texans clinch a plot Earth. But they're looking for

1633
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 1: much more than that type of clinching, which would only

1634
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 1: get them a wild card. What do you make of

1635
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 1: Ravens at LA? I didn't say San Diego. Let the

1636
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: record show at La to play the Chargers. Yeah, I'm

1637
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: impressed by then, but I have yet to get past

1638
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: the San Diego reference, so to speak. And in talking

1639
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 1: yesterday with Rocky Law, the San Diego State University head coach.

1640
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: I think I may have made the reference for the

1641
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: Chargers still being in San Diego, But anyway, you know,

1642
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: I kind of like this game for the Ravens, even

1643
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: though it's a road game. It's a long road game

1644
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 1: that they've been playing some really good football. They're hot,

1645
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 1: and you know, when you look at it, San Diego's

1646
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: in the playoffs already, they're gonna be in, and the

1647
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: Ravens are still vying to get in. They're also riding

1648
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: a high quarterback and it's they're doing it a little

1649
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 1: bit differently where it's it's going to cause some problems

1650
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: for the Chargers to defend a guy like Lamar Jackson

1651
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: and the things that they're doing on the offensive side

1652
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: of it. So I think they're gonna get enough in

1653
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: the running game, they're gonna get just enough in the

1654
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: passing game, and their defense has been lights out the

1655
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. So I kind of like the

1656
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: Ravens in this one, and it may extend things one

1657
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: more week to see if they get themselves indeed get

1658
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: themselves in. I think it's a perplexing league because you

1659
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: look at the Saints struggling to beat Carolina the other night,

1660
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: and Carolina didn't have a lot going on in that game,

1661
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: but defensively, clearly they did offensively their challenge. But the

1662
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: Saints struggling, the Rams struggling. I know the Chiefs aren't perfect, obviously,

1663
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots aren't. The Steelers did beat the Patriots, but

1664
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: they lost to the Raiders the week before. The Colts

1665
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: look good, but they were blanked by Jacksonville a few

1666
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: games ago. What do you make of it all, Andre, Well,

1667
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: I think it's just, you know, it goes back to

1668
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: the old average of you know, any given Sunday, anybody

1669
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: could beat anybody Cleveland at Cleveland or what they've been

1670
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,520
Speaker 1: able to do. U down the stretch and trying to

1671
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: spoil some parties, so to speak, and and and make

1672
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: a late made a late push to maybe try to

1673
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: get themselves into the playoffs. But uh, it's it's one

1674
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: of those things where if you're playing well, you can

1675
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: ride it for a while and you just never know

1676
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. That's why you buckle up and you

1677
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: just go out and play. It's it's matchups, it's who

1678
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: can out maneuver the other guy who can cause and

1679
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: create some problems and maybe make it tough to defend

1680
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: a certain style of offense. And then down the stretch,

1681
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: who's healthy. Who's healthy at this stage in the game,

1682
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: And that has a lot to do with how teams

1683
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 1: are playing, And all of a sudden you're seeing upsets

1684
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: because teams that you think are you would favor to

1685
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: win certain games aren't as healthy necessarily as the teams

1686
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: that you'd know that are already out of the playoffs

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01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: but have nothing to lose, so they go out and

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01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: play that way. All right. I threw this question at

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01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien the other day, but more of a roundabout whale.

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01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: Be more direct with you. How big a distraction it

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01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: might sound blasphemous, how big a distraction is Christmas to

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01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: a professional football player or coaches or an organization. I

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01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 1: don't think it's that big at the distraction because the

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01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: day you become part of a roster and you start

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01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: to get late into the year, you realize that it's

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01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: part of it and you're gonna have to play around

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01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: the holiday. You're gonna have to travel around the holiday. Luckily,

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01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: this year it's it's during the middle portion of the week,

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01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: so you'll get to spence some time, or the Texans

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01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: will get to spend some time with their families and friends.

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Speaker 1: You just I just don't think it's that much of

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01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: a distraction. I've played on Christmas Day before, so you

1703
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: just know that's part of it as a professional athlete.

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Speaker 1: Drey thanks a lot of the time. Good luck with

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01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: the ball tonight. I appreciate it. Man. We'll see you

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01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: this weekend San Diego State versus Ohio. Tonight, Drey will

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01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: beyond the call. Appreciate him stopping by. Appreciate Merril Reefs

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01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 1: for stopping by. Dave's Angaro dep City Mark Vandermere the

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Speaker 1: game Plan. Brian Gaine, general manager for your Houston, Texas

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Speaker 1: stop by as well. I thank you guys for listening.

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Speaker 1: Well see tomorrow. Everybody and has always Go Texas