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Speaker 1: How did you guys feel about the sleeve jerseys?

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 3: Those was nast.

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Speaker 4: Those was I mean he shot there was like wattwan,

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Speaker 4: why did you shoot so many threes?

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Speaker 3: And he said, because they don't have fours.

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Speaker 5: Now, I'm just like brot up.

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Speaker 4: You got older, you lose to them at home. You

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Speaker 4: are not winning in Denver.

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Speaker 2: But once you play with the big ball, there's no

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Speaker 2: going back.

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Speaker 4: So it became kind of like an art form. And

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Speaker 4: you know, the players are smart. They want to like

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Speaker 4: get ahead of the rules to manipulate the reps until

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Speaker 4: they come with a new or and then the players

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Speaker 4: learned that and master that.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's just it's it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: The players are always one year ahead or two years

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Speaker 4: ahead of the rules.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the latest edition of

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Speaker 5: you guys. Let's get right into some fan questions. My

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Speaker 5: guy at NEP seven point three asks should coaches start

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Speaker 5: wearing suits again?

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Speaker 1: He votes yes. Danny Paul, what do you guys think?

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Speaker 2: I like the suit aspect, but I also like that

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Speaker 2: they can be comfortable because some coaches be out there,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, sweating, bugging out because it just

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Speaker 2: looks crazy when they're doing that in a suit. Forget

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Speaker 2: was it was? What what coaches at n cub A tournament?

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Speaker 2: He sweated out his whole Yeah, he needed probably like

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Speaker 2: wearing brown or gray. He needed a drive hit bro. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: his whole ship was he through by the end of

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Speaker 2: the game. But I mean, I like the professionalism of

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Speaker 2: a suit, you know, I like thee from going to

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Speaker 2: the office. Yeah, so, but I don't think it's necessary.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it needed.

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Speaker 1: You you're good off of the suits.

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Speaker 3: If I'm going to the office. Look at this, I mean, like, uh,

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Speaker 3: what's the Arizona Dudes? Is Sean Miller there? You go? Yeah? Man,

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Speaker 3: come on, man, get the good rock a white beat.

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Speaker 2: Like damn that white bed, that white beader wouldn't help.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't have helped.

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Speaker 4: That's embarrassing you sweating out a suit. What are you

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Speaker 4: doing in a suit that you gotta sweat it out?

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Speaker 2: Like, you know what I'm saying out there coaching.

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Speaker 3: Sweat You shouldn't have to wear a suit to sweat it.

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Speaker 5: So this came, this, this, this, this lack of wearing

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Speaker 5: a suit came during the bubble, and they basically just

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Speaker 5: kept the coaches just like, just keep it. I think

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Speaker 5: for me personally, I'm more on the suit side honestly,

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Speaker 5: because I think it just adds to make it feel

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Speaker 5: like it's an event, like it's something serious is happening here,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And when the guys just

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Speaker 5: wearing a sweatsuit, I don't know, there's something.

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Speaker 2: It does seem very like there's something.

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Speaker 5: Just like not big lead, it's just whatever that got.

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Speaker 5: Like when when pat Riley and all these guys is

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Speaker 5: dressed to the nines, you know what I mean, and

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Speaker 5: and and and guys just really taking their appearance seriously.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I thought that was cooler.

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Speaker 2: I think the assistant coaches should be able to wear

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Speaker 2: Like with the head coach, I feel like, yeah.

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Speaker 5: The backbench and all of that, stay in your little sweatsuit.

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Speaker 2: But I know it's a lot for them to pack

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Speaker 2: and it's you know, but come on, yeah, the suit

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Speaker 2: for at least one of them look like you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, they could be carrying.

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Speaker 5: They carry this suit, they don't pack it, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, like dry cleaning.

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Speaker 2: Extra luggage. It's extra luggage. Man, it's extra luggage. So

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 5: I bring back the suits, bring back some level of professionalism.

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Speaker 3: No, man, this is a young league. You know.

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Speaker 4: We have to just with the times, the guys, and

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Speaker 4: we want to bring back a level professionalism. When I

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Speaker 4: walk into the locker room and there's thirty minutes for

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Speaker 4: shoot around, I don't want to see guys on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: And we want to talk about a level of professionalism.

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Speaker 4: And we're gonna keep it like that and make it

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Speaker 4: like this for everybody. Why are the players who are

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Speaker 4: not playing sitting in the middle of the bench and

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Speaker 4: sweat suits, And we want to make it a level.

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Speaker 2: Of professional for those guys.

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Speaker 4: Like I mean, but this is sport at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day. You know, sports is relaxed. Sports is athleticism,

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Speaker 4: running and jumping. You sweat like I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: twenty four hour fitness in the suit to put on

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Speaker 4: some shorts to work.

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Speaker 5: Out, millions of people watching you. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: and your your your appearance is a representation of the Protestant.

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Speaker 4: That my appearance is an expression of who I am

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Speaker 4: as a person. Sure, and I like to do that freely.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So I don't.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter how you look at me.

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Speaker 4: I'm expressing me as a person who I am, not

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Speaker 4: who the NBA is, because I think as a fan,

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Speaker 4: you should value who I am as a person. Because

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Speaker 4: now that we live in a social media error, people

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Speaker 4: want to know who he really is. Before you didn't

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Speaker 4: know who Paul Pierce was. You saw him walking into

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Speaker 4: the suit, you saw him play basketball and then go home.

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Speaker 4: They didn't know that I like to wear certain things,

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Speaker 4: or eat a certain type of food, or drink a

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Speaker 4: certain type of drink. You know, Like I think that's

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Speaker 4: the beauty of the sport. Now you get to know

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Speaker 4: your player and the way he expresses hisself and a

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Speaker 4: lot of the times the way he dressed when we like,

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Speaker 4: we've made it a thing now to where we get

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Speaker 4: that walk in thennel to see like, damn what he

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Speaker 4: got on today?

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Speaker 3: How is he?

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Speaker 4: And then sometimes you might come in there and something

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Speaker 3: Oh he were all black today with a mask. Oh

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Speaker 3: that's how you feel like the Reaper today.

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Speaker 4: I like that you can express your tone with your

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Speaker 5: I agree about that with players, but I think coaches

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Speaker 5: a little different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm I'm bringing back sport code on the

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Speaker 2: bench though. Forgot he's not playing, you can walk in

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Speaker 2: whatever you want. But if you're not playing, like those

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Speaker 2: guys just walking into they're playing. So like, I get

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Speaker 2: expressing yourself fashionable, but and now you don't some of

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Speaker 2: the outfits nice. If you're wearing the team outfit, cool,

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Speaker 2: Like if you're acting like you're dressing and warm up's cool.

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Speaker 2: But like if you're wearing regular clothes, I feel like

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Speaker 5: The standards should be like would you wear this to

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Speaker 5: a baptism or christening?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: So it's not to say you gotta wear a suit,

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Speaker 5: but you wouldn't wear a Nike text suit to your

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Speaker 5: family members christening?

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Speaker 3: You feel me lor come as you are, so you.

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Speaker 2: Church, you pulled up the church with.

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Speaker 4: He's not turning no one away. He's not turning no

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't even say baby shower because people be wearing

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Speaker 5: crazy stuff the baby showers.

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Speaker 3: But like to a christening.

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Speaker 2: Suit going to church with like, what about a.

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Speaker 3: Wear a linen suit, lenen.

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Speaker 1: Just just try to look nice.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I remember when I was younger and

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, David Stern and the dress code

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Speaker 5: is racist and they're hating on the hip hop.

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Speaker 1: Generation and I was definitely my ship when I was younger.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm just like, bro, pick your pants up.

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Speaker 3: You're on natural.

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Speaker 2: You got older, you grew up, you grew.

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Speaker 4: Up a lot of wear a khaki pants and the

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Speaker 2: You could wear jeans and shirt, but you got I

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Speaker 2: just feel like you put a sport coat over it.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that makes.

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Speaker 5: It look some kind of collar the jacket.

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Speaker 2: Again, if you wear sport I think it cleans it up.

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Speaker 3: You look crazy.

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Speaker 2: Sport co cleans it up for sure. Man. So like

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Speaker 2: I think the sport coded was was good for the league.

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Speaker 5: I like this question from Fried after Birth.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was freed, but it's fried after birth.

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Speaker 3: This guy must be.

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Speaker 1: From Colorado or California. How far back does flopping go?

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Speaker 1: And who's to blame for it? The players or the officials?

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Speaker 3: The players remember the.

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Speaker 1: Biggest flopper of your time? Who comes to mind?

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Speaker 3: I think the one person that comes to mind was

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah about Dennis Robin.

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Speaker 3: Fa Yeah, Dennis, that's all the same era, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: That was like early nineties, especially when they used to

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Speaker 3: And well, yeah, it was like you had the fly verse,

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Speaker 4: You was like, wow, yeah, because I remember Shack always

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Speaker 4: kind of publicized that he's just out here flopping, you know,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I think that may be a European thing.

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Speaker 1: Men.

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Speaker 4: One guy I can remember Dennis Robin. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: Dennis was master of it. It was a way to

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Speaker 4: like an art form, and you know, the players are

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Speaker 4: smart to like get ahead of the rules, to manipulate

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Speaker 4: the reps until they come with a new rule. And

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Speaker 4: then the players learned that and master that, like you know,

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Speaker 4: it's just it's it's crazy the players are always one

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Speaker 4: year ahead or two years ahead of the rules.

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Speaker 2: I feel like for sure, I mean, I give probably

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Speaker 2: it's both officials and players, because officials don't they don't

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Speaker 2: fall for in the playoffs, Like they don't call it

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Speaker 2: as much in the playoffs, right.

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Speaker 3: I wish the playoffs was every day. I love the

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Speaker 3: way they called it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all, they don't have to allow it, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. They used to get fines, used to

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Speaker 2: get flopping technical files stuff.

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Speaker 1: With Maxie where he just runs into a guy and

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Speaker 1: throws it up and.

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Speaker 2: It's just like we've seen him a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We've seen it with runs

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Speaker 2: and we've seen it, he said Max even Joete, Like

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Speaker 2: you know, Tres got it from some guys and he

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Speaker 2: started back with James and then Trey Young, you know,

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Speaker 2: like those guys was.

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Speaker 5: One of the originators as well.

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Speaker 2: Some calls to.

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Speaker 5: My mind's I mind, who was one of the guys,

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Speaker 5: especially with the ball that was really good at selling content.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't think he You know, somebody's

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm saying the biggest flopper today, who would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he snaps is up there.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of times he's causing the contact. Bro,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she is pretty good. Like again, it's

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Speaker 5: Man, when when halfway through last season Adam put that

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Speaker 2: And give used to get fines. They did the flopping

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Speaker 2: Being the coin okay yea.

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Speaker 5: Or chasing Steph Curry through thirty plus screens a night.

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Speaker 2: Danny, Yeah, they were more physical back then, so I

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Speaker 4: Back then, well, I think we had more guys that

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Speaker 2: That's like, there was way more pin downs back then,

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Speaker 4: Downs now now it's kind of like, oh, you just

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, Like I think we'd be just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't, you know, in terms of guys being

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Speaker 5: That's what I think is different, Like guys besides, who

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Speaker 5: Where it literally was point guards running the offense. It

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Speaker 5: I think it's different, man, when you're a six foot

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Speaker 4: I think in that era you wanna trap more. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So that's that's why I think the adjustment would be because

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Speaker 3: Ball out of his hands more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, adjustment for them is to be able to guard out.

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Speaker 1: Drop coverage and let the guy recover. Right.

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Speaker 3: There was more defensive scheming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: We had a defensive system like ice red trap Like

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Speaker 3: Four and three, switch to and four show like you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the best defenses even now, don't switch

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Speaker 5: everything like like you said how you said four and

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Speaker 5: three switch to and four show like the best defensive

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Speaker 5: depending on matchup, like you don't just come with some

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Speaker 5: I think that's what people hate it about Booting Holzer. Honestly,

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Speaker 5: in the Milwaukee days, it was like, bro y'all are

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Speaker 1: A drop coverage all night.

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Speaker 5: These guys are just gonna just shoot wide open pull

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Speaker 3: The same defense on guard on the island.

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Speaker 1: The best defenses have.

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Speaker 5: To be able to adjust, have to make it matchup

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Speaker 5: You're actually gonna be in the drop when such and

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Speaker 5: such initiates the pick and roll, You're actually gonna do

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Speaker 3: Like the best defenses.

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Speaker 5: Have a diagnosis for everything, and you know, I think

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: No matter what ever.

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Speaker 1: It was, King Abe zero seven says, do.

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Speaker 3: You being the.

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Speaker 1: Basically have jerseys falling off in the last eight years?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Now, I think they a good job of bringing

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Speaker 2: it back, like they was bring back some throwback nights,

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Speaker 2: like they do a good job of mixing it up.

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Speaker 2: But the jerseys back then would definitely fire. Like maybe

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Speaker 2: because we were kids and we looked up and that's

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Speaker 2: what we know them as, Like the old Phoenix Sun's jersey.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like fire, the old Philly jerseys.

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Speaker 2: But they said they bring him back to integrate them.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people like that old Toronto jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raptor on the Super even the Vancouver Stripes

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Speaker 2: coming down, Vancouver Grizzlies.

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Speaker 3: Stripes with the bulls.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no no, But I'm just.

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Speaker 4: Like fire, Yeah, stripes, here's fire.

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Speaker 3: Here's my take.

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Speaker 5: When Adidas had the contract before Nike got it, everybody

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Speaker 5: complained about the jerseys. Nike got the contract, everybody's complaining

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Speaker 5: about the jersey.

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Speaker 1: But that proves to me is that there's too many

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Speaker 1: fucking jerseys.

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Speaker 5: Every team don't need to have eight alternate jerseys. You

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Speaker 5: can make two fire jerseys a year, three fire jerseys

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Speaker 5: a year. Making eight fire jerseys for thirty teams seems impossible.

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Speaker 1: So how about this guy's three jerseys tops.

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Speaker 2: Bro, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's about the white and two alternate colors.

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Speaker 2: And I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: The Heat have a black jersey, they have a till jersey,

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Speaker 5: they have a black and pink jersey.

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Speaker 1: They got a white jersey, they got a red jersey.

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Speaker 2: It's like, my bruh, I remember it said when I

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Speaker 2: first came in, it wasn't that many jerseys. Toward the

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Speaker 2: end of my career is like like five six different

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Speaker 2: Like damn, yeah, I'm with you and that I mean

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe one throwback night. So three jersey and a

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Speaker 2: throwback Yeah, yeah, you't getting facts.

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Speaker 1: Give me your another thing. Why we don't do home

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Speaker 1: whites no more?

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Speaker 2: I wear whatever. You ask the team what they want

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Speaker 2: to wear at home, and then you can pick whatever

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Speaker 2: color you want. So like they choosing now it's like

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Speaker 2: y'all wearing white at home or y'all wearing you're wearing blue?

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Speaker 2: So we can wear white on the road, so they

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Speaker 2: can wear they could pick equipment, manage, have to pack everything.

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Speaker 1: They have no whites on the floor.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like back in the days you turn a

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Speaker 3: No question. I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: There's certain things like I know, we want, we don't need,

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Speaker 5: we want to iterate, and we want to evolve and

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Speaker 5: all of that. But some traditions are cool traditions like

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Speaker 5: goddamn the whole whites, right, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: Like everybody knows, like this is we're at home for this,

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Speaker 5: and then you know, you see one team is wearing

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Speaker 5: like or some of the colors be like yeah, very

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Speaker 5: similar because they.

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Speaker 2: Have the same throwback like color Wave. Yeah with Miami's

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Speaker 2: their little Miami Knight and Spurs throwback Spurs colors like

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Speaker 2: low Spurs, Low Spurt, the pink pink teal and you

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Speaker 1: And no offense to adeed.

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Speaker 5: It's just like when Nike failed at It's like, all right,

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Speaker 5: maybe this can't actually be done.

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Speaker 3: Maybe nobody could.

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Speaker 5: Produce eight amazing jerseys for thirty teams every single season.

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Speaker 2: It said half said three four at most is at

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Speaker 2: a throwback night, whether it's you could be a throw

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Speaker 2: back home white jersey, throw back on the road. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But all you need is one white.

445
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: I think we just had two colors two. We had

446
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 2: the Saint Patty's one green and gold, one.

447
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: Patt grey one.

448
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:45,959
Speaker 3: We didn't have gray one.

449
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: I played what about the black and green?

450
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 3: Black? Green, for sure, that's it.

451
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: That's the green, the white, black and green and white.

452
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 3: And white white.

453
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 4: And then the only times we were though green and

454
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 4: gold is wack around Saint Patty's for the week.

455
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: Like the Knicks, Like we don't need twenty nick jerseys.

456
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the Christmas Day jersey was the one day

457
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: special cases.

458
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 3: I love the Christmas Day I love that. What did

459
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 3: you got?

460
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: How did you guys feel about the sleeve jerseys?

461
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't affect.

462
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: Those was nasty.

463
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 2: I wasn't though those was I.

464
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 4: First caught those. When I got the Brooklyn, I was like, nasty.

465
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 3: Nasty sleeve to the point whe people were just ripping this.

466
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 3: There was only one year.

467
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 2: Only was only one year?

468
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like year shot.

469
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: It was weird to like, yeah it was fourteen. You

470
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 2: put a little ripping the bottom so you can get

471
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: some more. Yeah, because I mean you you want to

472
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: just be fitted. So it's fitted. It's gonna be a

473
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: little tight.

474
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 3: It's like you were in a Yeah, did.

475
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: You play in the league when they juiced the ball.

476
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: Remember they had changed the change change the ball changed,

477
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 2: changed changed it.

478
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

479
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

480
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

481
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 4: It was like tearing, tearing people's fingers.

482
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: It was like people was like losing skin.

483
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

484
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 4: It was the point guards too, because playing j kid

485
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 4: can't kid was complaining and it was like the lead

486
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 4: point guards brought it to the table and I was like,

487
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: We're done with this.

488
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: You can't do this. This is nasty.

489
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 4: They just they didn't even like give it, let us

490
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: test it in preseason or they just threw it out

491
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 4: there and said, who this is what it was. I think,

492
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 4: I don't know what's falling.

493
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was still it was like they just changed it.

494
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: They changed it to more like the European type ball.

495
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: The ball where the lines didn't all connect. It was

496
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 4: something like that. I was I was I was falling

497
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 4: at the time because I got the ball in the

498
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 4: summer and I didn't think they was gonna roll it out,

499
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: you know, and they just rolled it out.

500
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: But I had the ball out.

501
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: But you didn't play with it though, like that a

502
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: little bit.

503
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: I didn't lie.

504
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 4: I was like, it's all right, they have more grip.

505
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 4: Though it did have more grip.

506
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 3: It was more a palmmable. But the leather, when you

507
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 3: get used to that, that leather, it's hard to go

508
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: back to go.

509
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: Back to anything else. Like once you play with the

510
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 2: league ball's hard to play with anything else, bro.

511
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 3: So the league ball is different from the college ball better.

512
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: It's different from every night and day, bro, Like what

513
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: what what?

514
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 2: What can you describe to the viewers, Like when you're

515
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: in college, like that leather, like that Wilson ball as

516
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: you play like, well now it's Wilson now. But it's

517
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: like a first of all, it's a little smaller. I

518
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: thl like, it's easier.

519
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 3: To clicker gets when to get west slippery.

520
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: So the ball now is very different.

521
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 4: NBA ball soaks up the wetness and it's still got

522
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 4: the gript.

523
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's a different it's a big boy boy

524
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: like it's also I feel like a little bit bigger

525
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: and I don't know. It's hard to explain, but it's

526
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: very different from.

527
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 3: And you prefer the NBA boy.

528
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: Once you start, you yeah, but when you're in college,

529
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: you're like, yo, this ball. When you try to play

530
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 2: with what the fuck is this? It's just kind of nasty.

531
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: But once you play with the NBA ball, there's no

532
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: going back to its because other ball they just feel

533
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: small and too much grip or too much like It's

534
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: just it's just different, very interesting.

535
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: All right, Uncle WRATHO ruth Man. I'm sorry, I'm a fire.

536
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 3: Hot mister Piers. The truth.

537
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 5: I watched you when I was a kid from Low

538
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 5: mass Would you say that because you played for Boston

539
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 5: for fifteen years, that you're a Celtics fan forever, even

540
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 5: though you were born and raised in Inglewood.

541
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: Are you a Laker fan at all?

542
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: That's the first part.

543
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I'm a Laker fan. I mean, always

544
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 4: gonna bled Green. I watched the Lakers. I grew up

545
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: a Laker fan, but I'm not like when I was

546
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 4: a kid wearing the Laker hoodie.

547
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: No more like I did when.

548
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 5: The Lakers aren't playing, Like, let's just say the Lakers

549
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 5: are playing the Suns.

550
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: Do you root for the Suns to beat the Lakers?

551
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: As a Celtic, I'm just a fan more of the game.

552
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: Got you?

553
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 4: Like the only time, Yeah, the only time I'm against

554
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 4: the Lakers for the most part is against the Celtics,

555
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: you know. Or if I'm on TV, I'm not gonna

556
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 4: like gas the you know what I'm saying. I mean,

557
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 4: you know, we still rivals all day until we die.

558
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 5: Got you, so the rivalry is gonna last we die Lastly?

559
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 5: How good was Antoine Walker? And was he a superstar?

560
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: Really?

561
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 5: Hear you talk about him because I feel like he

562
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 5: was your second best teammate, Kevin Garnett being the best teammate,

563
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 5: Thank you, Low Mass.

564
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 4: Well yeah, well man, Kevin. I mean, Antoine was definitely

565
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 4: a superstar. I mean when I got in, he had

566
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: his own shoe. He was on the cover of NBA game.

567
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: He was employee, had a nickname, Employee number.

568
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 5: Eight was he had a.

569
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 4: Commercial with you. He was a complete superstar. And then

570
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 4: you look at the way he played. He was ahead

571
00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 4: of his time.

572
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 3: Want else too? He used to wiggle they called it

573
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: the wiggle.

574
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, turned into the ship. But he was, like I said,

575
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: he was ahead of his time. And Antoine is one

576
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: of my favorite and best teammates, you know, and I

577
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: do talk about it how great Antoine was.

578
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: He was ahead of his time. He shot nineteen threes.

579
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 4: A game the power forward when no one else was

580
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: doing that at all at all. And my favorite quote

581
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 4: from him it was like, I mean he shot there

582
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: was like wat twan, why do you shoot so many threes?

583
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: And he said, because they don't have fours.

584
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: That's a great honestly.

585
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: And he was a.

586
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 4: Very versus he's what the player is today doing that

587
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: in the early two thousands for all around player.

588
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 5: Man, he could do everything on offense in terms of

589
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 5: you know, he could initiate offense, could be the screener,

590
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 5: like you said, was shooting off the dribble, catch and shoot. Yeah,

591
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 5: he had a lot of shake to his Yeah.

592
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: What what do you remember though about?

593
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 5: You know, because he got drafted the year before ninety

594
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 5: seven draft.

595
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: Well he got drafted. Let's see because where he's one

596
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: year older than me.

597
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: Was Patino still the coach when you got drafted? Yes, okay,

598
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: got you?

599
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 3: So he was in his third year when I came

600
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: in as a rookie. Patino was, uh, fourth year.

601
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: He came out as a sophomore and I came out

602
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 4: as a junior. He was I was a freshman, he

603
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: was a sophomore. And the next thing then I was

604
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 4: damn So he was in his third year when I

605
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: came in.

606
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 5: Got you damn So Antoine Walker got drafted in nineteen

607
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 5: ninety eight.

608
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: Two, I mean in nineteen ninety six. Yeah, wow, damn

609
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: that because he gets that in that best draft classes ever?

610
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely to me, the best draft class.

611
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

612
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: Damn. So he was in his third year already, and

613
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: you were.

614
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: A ROOKIEE I got drafted in ninety eight. Yeah.

615
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 5: And Rick Patino was you guys's coach, famously just a

616
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 5: hot tempered guy, tough, tough.

617
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: But you know the crazy thing about it is I

618
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: didn't know no better because I came from Roy, So

619
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: I thought, you know, I went from one college coach

620
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: to another college coach. So I thought, this is what

621
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: it was. You know, get on the line. I was like,

622
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: the league ain't no different. Commege four court press.

623
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: That's how it was.

624
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: Then until we got to the next coaches, I was like, oh,

625
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: this is how.

626
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: The league With Jim O'Brien the very next coach.

627
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: Because he was assistant to and then he took over. Man,

628
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: it was a mess after that. I think I played

629
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 4: for like four coaches in four in over like four

630
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: or five years something like that, because then it went

631
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: down the line the next coach.

632
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: Then we hired Doc.

633
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: So I played for four coaches in my first five

634
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: or six years or something like that.

635
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: Damn, who are the other coaches?

636
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 4: Besides it was like Rick Platino. And then we had

637
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: the other assistant. Damn, I forgot his name. He was

638
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: right after O'Brien because he was it was down the line,

639
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: you know, we didn't.

640
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: Go, so they just kept hiring assistance. The assistant from

641
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: Gym that was, but he was we waste. They were

642
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: all together.

643
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: It was just like, damn, I forget oh Man, he

644
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: had a son and I forget his name to me,

645
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: And then Doc came gave us some stability.

646
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: But who was your first playoff?

647
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: Here?

648
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 4: My fourth year, four year, two thousand and one, two

649
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: thousand and two, two thousand and two, we went to

650
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: the conference.

651
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: Finals and played the New Jersey next.

652
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: Yep, So we had Jim O'Brien. No, no, no, Doc Rivers.

653
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: Hmm.

654
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: We had one more coach after John Carroll, John Carroll, Yes,

655
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: after Jim.

656
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't have no record, Yes, yes, John Carroll.

657
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: He was an assistant coach.

658
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 5: Two hundred and fifty eight games like the rest of

659
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 5: the year, coached like the rest of the year.

660
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: Yeah wow.

661
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: And then Doc came in and coached for I was

662
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: like four coaches in like what six years? Damn Yeah,

663
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: it was unstable.

664
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: I got there. Yeah. Wow, that's tough.

665
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you went through a lot to get to get

666
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 5: to a champion, for sure.

667
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: You deserve that. Boy he was in NBA misery.

668
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: There's a lot of changing bro els, crowd your own home,

669
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: crowd new ownership, and clean out the team.

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Speaker 3: In my fourth fifth year, it was like a lot.

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Speaker 1: Took a lot to get there.

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Speaker 5: Friday night, hoops, guys, the Calves are playing the Pistons.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good one, bro, I think so too.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, the Calves have been rolling since the Harden trading

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Speaker 1: What type of game do you.

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Speaker 5: Do you anticipated having Danny. You think you'll get more

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Speaker 5: than nine zero point five assists?

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Speaker 2: You can bucket bro he is second in the league

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Speaker 2: and assists. I think he's gonna get ten assists because

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Speaker 2: he always I think he has this whole trend where

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Speaker 2: he kind of starts out not as aggressive, he gets

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Speaker 2: But he's gonna get You'll get to tell you think

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Speaker 2: it's so.

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Speaker 4: Hard to get tennis cists. But he has a knack

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Speaker 4: it can go either way. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Uh, what about buckets?

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is I think he getting He's

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Speaker 2: going buckets. He's getting buckets more than twenty five and

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Speaker 2: a half, more than.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five and a half. That that seems like the

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Speaker 3: That is that is the lock of the night. Six

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Speaker 5: If peoples going twenty five in their sleep against this team, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that feels like the lock of the night.

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Speaker 3: What about Harden, you think.

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Speaker 1: You'll be able to get some assists more than more

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Speaker 1: than eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: I think he gets like I'm going more.

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Speaker 3: I think he gets more than that.

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Speaker 2: I think it gets ready.

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Speaker 1: Guys going less.

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Speaker 5: And Jared allen Man does he continue his hot streak

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Speaker 2: Isaia Steward back, I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: less less than nineteen and a half.

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Speaker 4: Harden puts so much pressure on the defense, like you

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I think I think this is Cinderella

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Speaker 2: Sure, especially against this team.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to let.

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Speaker 5: Rick Carlisle rip the NBA for the Pacers tanking fine,

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Speaker 1: Decision and went into detail on why.

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Speaker 5: with the Pacers and how the NBA assisted Nie Smith

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Speaker 5: could have played without speaking to Niemith or the Pacers

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you something. Who like it? Says? The

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Speaker 5: Got to give up thousand GM assistant GM Carlisle. It's uh,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sorry, bro, Like.

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Speaker 3: Is yeah? Play played play the tape? Yes, yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: You know, I put out a statement about it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 6: I didn't agree with it. There was a league lawyer

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Speaker 6: I was not on it, but I but I heard details.

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Speaker 6: We asked them if they wanted to talk to the doctors,

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Speaker 6: by our doctors and trainers. Uh. They said no, they

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Speaker 6: didn't need to. They talked to their doctors who did

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Speaker 6: not examine Aaron Nee Smith, and we asked them if

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Speaker 6: they wanted to talk to the kid, and they said no. Damn.

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Speaker 5: So the league unilaterally made a decision and felt like

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Speaker 5: you flopped. I mean, excuse me, you didn't flop. You

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Speaker 5: you tanked not putting Nie Smith one of your starters

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Speaker 5: in the game. What do you think about this move

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Speaker 5: of Carlisle responding and saying that basically it's bullshit.

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Speaker 2: I respect him for speaking on it because most coaches

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Speaker 2: don't care to, even especially on a radio interview, like

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Speaker 2: they were not going to talk about that. Yeah, but again,

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Speaker 2: you know in other instances, you'd be like a lot

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Speaker 2: of guys, don't deny it. You know, he's I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's lying. You know, he's like, Yo, this is

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Speaker 2: the guy was heard the night before. He didn't play

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Speaker 2: this game because he's hurt. So if he didn't speak

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Speaker 2: on it, or he denied it or didn't deny it,

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Speaker 2: you'd be like, all right, just sounds like some bs,

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Speaker 2: but sure, But I think it's more of a track record.

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Speaker 5: The trust isn't there because you guys are pulling guys

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Speaker 5: in games that.

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Speaker 1: We know they're capable of playing.

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Speaker 5: So you put the league between the rocking a hard

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Speaker 5: spot where your tanking ass ways where the trust gets

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Speaker 5: eroded because you're constantly sitting guys.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was Utah than it hasn't been as explicit,

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Speaker 2: but they've been.

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Speaker 5: They've they've started to do it like this race to

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Speaker 5: the bottom again. NBA is a copycat league, and the

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Speaker 5: Pacers have started to do that. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: the Pacers traditionally never been a tanking team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, their ownership just straight up doesn't believe in it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like they you could look it up, the Pacers

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Speaker 5: never picking the top three of any drafts or anything.

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Speaker 1: Like, they just straight up don't tank this way, which

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Speaker 1: I think is admirable on the Pacers part.

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Speaker 5: But you know, it's there one chance at a decent pick,

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Speaker 5: and you know, the season is what it is.

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Speaker 3: My thing is like, you're so far the worst team

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Speaker 3: by far.

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Speaker 4: You can just play your guys, y'all, got it, got it?

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Speaker 4: Come on, y'all, can just play your guys the same

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Speaker 4: same results.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna finish with the worst record in the league regardless.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I agree with Adam.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's why he's saying his bullshit. He's like, if

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Speaker 2: we could, we probably would play him. I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Beat the Knicks though the other day, so they was

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Speaker 1: That's definitely what happened.

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Speaker 5: Nobody made a call the GM say, man, I get it,

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Speaker 5: we hate the Knicks, but hey, we.

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Speaker 1: Got the tank to stay right anyway.

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Speaker 5: I respect we called our standing or for himself and

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Speaker 5: So in the Battle for the West, guys, we did

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Speaker 3: I guess we all get to pick one team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, whoever wants to go first, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I could defend the slew of teams.

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Speaker 2: In the West, so I'm not worried about it for sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do we not want to go with the

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Speaker 2: top two or three? I mean I would go with

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Speaker 2: san Antonio honestly.

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891
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to defend the Nuggets like that. You know,

892
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: they are a team that hasn't necessarily been healthy all year,

893
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 4: but still in.

894
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: The top four. They still struggled recently, but they still

895
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: haven't been healthy. Yeah, they still know they don't.

896
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: Peyton Watson goes down, Bron comes back like you know,

897
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: they haven't had the full you know, look, yeah Gordon.

898
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: Is still out.

899
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: So I'm the thunder, which is an easy case.

900
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: But you know, they've definitely way more vulnerable today than

901
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 5: they were in December.

902
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: So Paul make the case for the Denver Nuggets.

903
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: Well, my case for them. And they host the best player,

904
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: they host one of the best home court advantages in

905
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 4: all of basketball. They have Championship DNA and there a

906
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: lot They have more depth this year than they had

907
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: a year ago with Brown and Bron and Peyton. Peyton

908
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: Watson now come into the fold and he's maturing. I

909
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: just like what Jamal Murray is given this year, turning

910
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 4: off into an All Star. I just think this is

911
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 4: a team in the playoffs, in the seven game series.

912
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: If you lose to them at home, you are not winning.

913
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: Endeaver mm hmm.

914
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: We want to make the case for the Spurs.

915
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: We can.

916
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: Let's when to rebut that do we rebuttal in first?

917
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: All right, that's pretty simple, bro. You said they have

918
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: the best defense in the league right now, and that's

919
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: that starts in nine game winning streak starts and finishes

920
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: with Wemby and also Castle. They have a plethora of

921
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: guys on the wings that can guard, you know, and

922
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: that can shoot. They've won games with guys out, guys in.

923
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: You have Dylan Harpercorn with the bench. You got Kellen

924
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: Johnson who's six mini a year off the bench. You

925
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: got Vizelle that can shoot it, Champagne can shoot it,

926
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: Harrison Barnes, you know, another big body. We forget Stephan

927
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: Castle and Darren Fox, who is an All Star this year.

928
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: Uh and they, you know, fit in just right playing

929
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: their role, perfect emerging stars with Steph Castle and Wemby,

930
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: the just Oneman's already starving, Stephan's emerging best defensive league.

931
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: And the team that everybody looked at was a thunder

932
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: and they got their number. You know, they got the

933
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: mental edge on them and the physical edge. It seems

934
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: at right now, I like that case.

935
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: That's a decent case for me to thunder. It's pretty easy.

936
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 5: You start the season twenty four and one and it's

937
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 5: just like we won a championship last year.

938
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: We're young, we're hungry, we're deep.

939
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 5: We have the freaking MVP, reigning MVP playing even better

940
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 5: than his MVP season, Like, it's just obvious. We bring

941
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 5: a great coaching situation. I like, I like our coaching

942
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 5: advantage in most playoff matchups. It's just to me, it's

943
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: just we have the blueprint, we have the horses.

944
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: We've proven this season. We went on a twenty four

945
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: and one stretch.

946
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 5: Okay, we've proven this year already how dominant, utterly dominant.

947
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 5: We could be breaking all of you know, net rating

948
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 5: point differential records.

949
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 3: Like I'm just not I'm just not worried.

950
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: About It's just that the championship case is obvious. This

951
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: is a team.

952
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 5: Just this summer they talking about we're gonna be in

953
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: the next ten NBA finals with the draft picks coming.

954
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: Come on, man, stop doubting us. We're gonna win the.

955
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: Chip again this year.

956
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: They gotta get healthy, man.

957
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 1: So Danny go at Paul's case for his Denver Nuggets.

958
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 2: Denver is a good group, man. They just I don't

959
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: trust their their health and stability. Also, Jamal Murray has

960
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: had some really great postseasons in his earlier years. He's

961
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: had a really great season. I don't know if he

962
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: can lie have like both does that make sense?

963
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 5: Like actually killed in the playoffs because he's expended himself

964
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 5: so much.

965
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he might run out of gas because

966
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: of their injuries. You know, Aaron Gordon has been out,

967
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: He's had to take up a lot of the slack

968
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: with that Christian Brown, you know Cam Johnson. They've all

969
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: had time out and they haven't had enough time together

970
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: as a group to get that rhythm. And I don't

971
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: think they have enough defense to get it done.

972
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's for me.

973
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 5: The the case against Denver begins and ends with their defense.

974
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: Right now, they're the twenty fifth ranked defense in the NBA.

975
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 5: Numb on on offense. We all know they're the best

976
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 5: offense in the NBA, but right now in the twenty

977
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 5: fifth worst defense in the league, and worse at that

978
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 5: your kids. Again, he's still putting up great numbers.

979
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: But I think where you're.

980
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 5: Seeing the injury actually show itself as on defense, where

981
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 5: it just seems like he's conceding stuff defensively in a

982
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 5: way that he just wasn't early. He's slower to the ball,

983
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 5: He's just like, you know what if that guy takes

984
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 5: a wide open floater from seven feet, No contestant's all good.

985
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 5: He's just less lateral in his movement on defense and

986
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 5: Aaron Gordon, I'm sorry, man, like, I don't know why

987
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 5: you can count on him to play at this point.

988
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: That that soft tissue stuff seems to linger with him.

989
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 5: And we know this guy plays his heart out, so

990
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 5: he only knows how to go pedal to the medal

991
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 5: and that think career is ugly had. So Aaron Gordon

992
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 5: injury and your defense just looking like crap damn down

993
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 5: the stretch here.

994
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: And so that's that's my case against the Nuggets for sure.

995
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 3: All right, that's fair.

996
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: So who are we going to going to Thunder?

997
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: All right?

998
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 4: So now Thunder my case against the Thunder, there is

999
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 4: no case. There's a major case. For one, there hasn't

1000
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: been a back to back champion in over five or

1001
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 4: six years since the Golden State Warriors. It's been like

1002
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: what seven seven years that Yeah, So this shows the

1003
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: disparity that's in the league. It's tough to repeat, especially

1004
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: with a young team who's deal with injuries all season long.

1005
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 4: I just don't know if they have it in their

1006
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: to come together at the end of the year. The

1007
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 4: last twenty for something games, when I mean Jay Dove's

1008
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 4: been unhealthy all year. I'm not even sure if he's

1009
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: gonna give you nothing win in the playoffs.

1010
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 3: And it seems like the wrisk is like bothering them.

1011
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so you know, and I know they show

1012
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 4: they have depth, but like I said, another hasn't been

1013
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 4: a repeat team. And when I see the way San

1014
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: Antonio did them after going twenty four and one and

1015
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: then losing their next three games to just one team dominated,

1016
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: it just shows me they have your number and you're

1017
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: gonna have to see them in the playoffs. So I'm

1018
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 4: not sure they And then if they have to see

1019
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: the Nuggets. The Nuggets did take them to seven last year,

1020
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 4: and we all know they were Aaron Gordon hamstring away

1021
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 4: from probably losing that game. Yeah, so I'm not sure

1022
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: when you see the Spurs healthy of the Nuggets healthy,

1023
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 4: that can get by them, I'm with.

1024
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: Him and go to the health and it's really j

1025
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: doub because I think he's the X factor. You know,

1026
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 2: Sga is consistent as health. Chet is not this year.

1027
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: You can get away with Chet not being that when

1028
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: you had J Dub playing like he to play because

1029
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: he would give you a forty ball in the finals,

1030
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: which I don't see happening this year.

1031
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: It's tough to imagine he'll do that the way that

1032
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: he's played so far.

1033
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just been up and down, just not they

1034
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: haven't gotten a good rhythm together as a group. So

1035
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna hurt you in the long run.

1036
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: And they've shown they have like a slight not a slight,

1037
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: but like Santim's got a little mental edge on them.

1038
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: They letm say, living rent free. They paying the rent,

1039
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: but they live in They living up there, you know

1040
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So they're definitely thinking about it. And

1041
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: that matchup is a it's a matchup problem for them,

1042
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: and I think it might be a matchup problem against

1043
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 2: them in Denver too, if Denver's healthy.

1044
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 5: Here's the problem with the Spurs, and they're just there's

1045
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 5: no experience. Like it's not that there's like a little

1046
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 5: there's no experience on the team.

1047
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: Fox got a little bit.

1048
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fox got smoked in the first round one time

1049
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: his career.

1050
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 2: Okay, Harrison Baresary Barnes like the eighth man now comes

1051
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: with He was a starter for most of the season.

1052
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: He's the eight. He's six man phased out six marginal,

1053
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: marginalized Championship DNA bro.

1054
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, my thing is in the.

1055
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 5: Playoffs again, the best defenses are going to figure out

1056
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 5: how to limit what they're doing offensively, throw different things

1057
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: at them.

1058
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: Cornett.

1059
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: I love Cornet, he does.

1060
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 5: He's gonna play ten minutes a game at best in

1061
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 5: the playoffs if things are going the way they should

1062
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 5: be going.

1063
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: I just think with the Guards having no experience at all.

1064
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 5: And you know, to your point, Fox is a veteran,

1065
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 5: you know, and I think he'll acquit himself pretty well.

1066
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 5: But like when you're counting on Harper and Castle to

1067
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 5: get you in and out of offense to attack certain

1068
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: defenses and constantly be making the right decision, and defense

1069
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 5: is going to challenge Castle to make shots like going

1070
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 5: under screens, putting centers on them, that kind of thing.

1071
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 5: You know. I think that the the lack of experience

1072
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 5: is gonna rear its ugly head in a playoff matchup.

1073
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: P You talk about it all the time.

1074
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree, because the deeper you get in

1075
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 4: the playoffs, health is also be a concern because we

1076
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 4: all know how frail Winby can be and I remember

1077
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: just going deep in the playoffs. By the time we

1078
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 4: got to the conference finals, my hip, my knee, my ankle,

1079
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 4: and do they have the mental Do they have the

1080
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 4: mental capacity to get through all of that as a

1081
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 4: young team. Do they have the mental capacity to look

1082
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 4: up and see the bright lights and understand the media

1083
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: is totally different when you're in that setting. Are they

1084
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 4: gonna wilt to the pressure of that being so young

1085
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: with no experience, I don't know. I mean, you have

1086
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: to start somewhere. It's just to me when you don't

1087
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 4: have when you're not battle tested yet and been through

1088
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 4: a playoff run, I don't see them just going from

1089
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 4: zero to one hundred out the gates. So you know,

1090
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 4: I just think for the lack of experience, if they

1091
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: make it to conference finals, that's a great year.

1092
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1093
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 5: For the record, guys, I think these are definitely the

1094
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 5: three best teams in the West for sure, And I

1095
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 5: don't even think it's kind of arguable anymore.

1096
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 3: I think Denver.

1097
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 5: Their struggles is like I'm the least worried about, Like,

1098
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 5: these guys have played a lot of playoff basketball and together, Yeah, specifically,

1099
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 5: it's not just that they have the experiences, like they

1100
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 5: have the continuity too, and so I'm just not worried,

1101
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 5: Like I know, these guys in the regular season can

1102
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 5: kind of take their foot off the gas very often.

1103
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 5: And I think the Spurs, like I was definitely skeptical

1104
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 5: early on in the year, but like they're just a contender,

1105
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 5: Like there's no you can't say they're not a contender

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Speaker 5: from what they've shown on the court this year.

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Speaker 3: And of course, okay, see.

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Speaker 5: With all the talent, like I love all of these teams, man,

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Speaker 5: and I can't wait for the Western Conference playoffs this

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Speaker 5: dogfight for all parties involved. So that's our show for today.

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