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Speaker 3: We got knee problems on this show.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got problem. We got knee issues on this show. Man,
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Speaker 5: Kurt's fine. By the way, Yes, Curtis family member has
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Speaker 3: You think it's ever when you and I I don't
Speaker 3: think so.
Speaker 5: Maybe once, Maybe it's a weird arrangement. Close up.
Speaker 3: When you hear that song, what do you think of?
Speaker 5: Uh, there's a commercial with it, but I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Well, who do you think of as the the artist
Speaker 3: behind it song? I don't know who is the artist
Speaker 3: behind I'm not the original, but I always think about
Speaker 3: Will Smith's Who's the original?
Speaker 5: Chris not Al Green? Is it?
Speaker 3: I'll look it up.
Speaker 5: Who is? It's gonna be somebody you're gonna hear, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: Or is it gonna be somebody weird that you're like, No,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be somebody we know.
Speaker 3: So I can't think of it right now.
Speaker 5: A lot going on, man, a lot of a lot
Speaker 5: of This is the weirdest off season ever. You and
Speaker 5: I were talking about this before the show, and I
Speaker 5: don't remember. I don't think it's ever happened. Correct me
Speaker 5: if I'm wrong, But I don't remember the organization ever
Speaker 5: saying that they don't have money to spend.
Speaker 3: You mean the guys on the four blist, Yes, you
Speaker 3: mean the guy who have the most.
Speaker 5: And see and look. So I got opinions about that.
Speaker 5: I think that was a bad choice of words to
Speaker 5: our fan base because our fan base takes that literally.
Speaker 5: What they mean is the team doesn't have wiggle room,
Speaker 5: and I think they're trying to clear future cap space
Speaker 5: up because they've drawn this. They've drawn several contracts out
Speaker 5: over the last what eight ten years to where they
Speaker 5: got in this spot where they can't afford to sign.
Speaker 5: But of course they can afford it. They're the Jones family.
Speaker 5: They have billions of dollars. They can't afford to sign
Speaker 5: these in the parameters of the NFL and their.
Speaker 3: Money, their their personal money and their team money are
Speaker 3: two separate moneys, right, they they ain't the same money.
Speaker 5: The fan base does not realize that what.
Speaker 3: They got, what they got at the Bank of America
Speaker 3: and what they got at the Bank of the NFL, right,
Speaker 3: ain't the same money those two money, don't. They ain't
Speaker 3: joint accounts. They don't.
Speaker 5: Their NFL money runs out real quick.
Speaker 6: There's not join the Yankees have, like Yankee money, Baseball money.
Speaker 3: Baseball, right, that goes into that football.
Speaker 5: If you were now, if you were in baseball or
Speaker 5: even the NBA, where there's just a luxury tax and
Speaker 5: all that, you said, we can't afford it, then yes,
Speaker 5: let's let's get upset. But like that's our fans getting
Speaker 5: upset because of that choice of words. I think. Is
Speaker 5: it used to be that way?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when the nineties happened, right when you could
Speaker 3: spend whatever you wanted and there was no cap and
Speaker 3: there was no It was to the highest.
Speaker 5: Bidder, and there was not parody in the NFL, and
Speaker 5: that was not good for the aim because there were
Speaker 5: teams that were take Can the forty nine ers and
Speaker 5: the Cowboys, and you had the same teams winning over
Speaker 5: and over and over. So they wanted it to be
Speaker 5: a level playing field and they were like, oh, let's
Speaker 5: which in a way kind of isn't fair because I.
Speaker 3: Think that's what Jerry meant when he said, if you
Speaker 3: do this side the check that I would write for
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. I think he's I think he's thinking
Speaker 3: of the nineties, He's I think he's thinking of the
Speaker 3: yes two years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean kind of puts it in the hands
Speaker 5: of your lawyers and your your money guys, and your
Speaker 5: you know your law you know your contract guys on
Speaker 5: how creative you can get with the cap and how
Speaker 5: you can adjust this and if you're it really really
Speaker 5: the last I guess this has really stood out probably
Speaker 5: the last what six seven years, where your quarterback on
Speaker 5: a rookie deal can make or break you as far
Speaker 5: as like building your team out. A lot of teams
Speaker 5: are like looking for that quarterback to you know, because
Speaker 5: then you, then you age out and you age into
Speaker 5: that second contract, and then all that money goes to
Speaker 5: your quarterback and then you have divisioncies everywhere else. You've
Speaker 5: seen it with what Rock Pardy, You've seen it with
Speaker 5: who's some other young guys.
Speaker 3: I think someone said the other day, if you look
Speaker 3: at the super Bowl winning teams over the last couple
Speaker 3: of years, I think it was like if you take
Speaker 3: out like Tom Brady or something like that, most of
Speaker 3: those guys won super Bowls on their rookie deals, Like
Speaker 3: most of those quarterbacks were like on their rookie deals
Speaker 3: or stuff like that. It was something of that effect
Speaker 3: where you were able just to build better teams when
Speaker 3: you're a quarterback, wasn't taking up damn near third with
Speaker 3: it seems like of your salary cap. But the point
Speaker 3: I think sometimes frustrates fans and and even you know,
Speaker 3: just people in general, but fans in particular, is there's
Speaker 3: so there's so many brilliant people that work behind the
Speaker 3: scenes in every organization, not just the Cowboys, but every organization,
Speaker 3: and getting to the point we are now, it's not
Speaker 3: a surprise, you know what I'm saying, Like they knew
Speaker 3: what was coming. They knew that the credit card bill
Speaker 3: was eventually going to come a knocking. They knew that
Speaker 3: ten years ago, because the plan ten years ago was, hey,
Speaker 3: ten years from now, we gotta be able to do
Speaker 3: woo whoop because this money will kick down the road.
Speaker 3: And so they continue. So every single year there were
Speaker 3: plans put in place, and there were plans built around
Speaker 3: the premise of eventually this is coming. So it don't
Speaker 3: get me wrong. In that moment of time, it's the
Speaker 3: credit card methodology, right. It's like, listen, in this moment,
Speaker 3: my favorite artist is coming to town, and I got
Speaker 3: more month than money. My boy, I got that credit
Speaker 3: card and I ain't missing this com right, But I
Speaker 3: know I'm gonna be eating sandwiches.
Speaker 5: I can pinch pennies down the road to get this
Speaker 5: paid off. Or you know what, I might be in
Speaker 5: a better situation financially. I might get a better I
Speaker 5: might get a better job. I might get a rate,
Speaker 5: the salary cap might increase, the TV money might be bigger.
Speaker 3: It might be And I think that that was some
Speaker 3: of the thought processes in as well. But also you
Speaker 3: say to yourself, boy, but for this momentarily, drink a beer. Boy,
Speaker 3: I might have eat. I'ma have you a time tonight.
Speaker 3: I'm right, And that's that's the moment we're gonna go
Speaker 3: out after I'm gona have me. The drinks will be flowing,
Speaker 3: the the vibe will be lit like that is the
Speaker 3: feeling that and and and on a personal level, you
Speaker 3: say to yourself, boy, it was worth it. I deserved, Boy,
Speaker 3: it was worth it.
Speaker 5: I created a memory.
Speaker 3: And for the Cowboys and for for sports teams, it's
Speaker 3: if I can be less sneed and go f these
Speaker 3: picks and f this money and these contracts we hoisted.
Speaker 3: A Lombardi will have that forever, like you'll have those
Speaker 3: moments forever, but eventually you got to pay.
Speaker 5: And if you got to, if you don't get that trophy,
Speaker 5: then it's all for nothing. And I think it's weird
Speaker 5: because that's a pitfall of having a talented roster.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm so distracted. My collar is atrocious? Is it?
Speaker 3: Why didn't no one tell me?
Speaker 5: I didn't notice it because it's on that side. I
Speaker 5: didn't say I would have told you. No.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just it's not It's just one of
Speaker 3: those things where this shirt is just you know, your
Speaker 3: collar gets a little bit wrangled. And before people started
Speaker 3: getting on that one, I'm gonna call it out myself.
Speaker 3: I just saw it. I was like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: let people talk about me behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I hate when you have like a like
Speaker 5: a T shirt and it gets a weird crease like
Speaker 5: either the sleeve or the collar where you can't straighten
Speaker 5: it out. Just basically, you know what happened? Your neck
Speaker 5: got you fast and like it's got a little slack
Speaker 5: in it. Now you're filling it up. Sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: but having a talented roster and maybe that's what happened
Speaker 5: to the Cowboys because you have so many high profile start. Look,
Speaker 5: you got Dak now, and it's crazy to me that there.
Speaker 5: We've always always extended our quarterback, right, We've always they
Speaker 5: got Basically they got in trouble with the cap now
Speaker 5: because they well they kind of drugged their feet. But
Speaker 5: then they but like there's talk now they might just
Speaker 5: let this thing ride out and then and then you know,
Speaker 5: and then we'll get at the end of that in
Speaker 5: a minute. But you got Dak, you got CD, you
Speaker 5: got Micah. You know, those all three of them could
Speaker 5: be the highest paid person at their position. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: want that, you know, Jerry Jerry said, I think yesterday
Speaker 5: that's a problem that you want to have, right, it's
Speaker 5: good problem, or is it like or is it better
Speaker 5: to have like really good talent and not you know,
Speaker 5: top tier in all three of the most important positions
Speaker 5: and that that's a week that's a great you know,
Speaker 5: it's a hard question.
Speaker 3: You don't win in this league without talent, right, and
Speaker 3: a multitude of talent you just don't like like people
Speaker 3: can say what they want about the Chiefs, right and oh,
Speaker 3: well no, the Chiefs, Well, Chiefs have three Hall of
Speaker 3: Fame players on their team. Like if you and probably
Speaker 3: we know Patrick Mahone is the greatest player walking the earth?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 5: Did you almost say it all time? I was, But
Speaker 5: what I think you could say that now he's getting there.
Speaker 3: He's getting there. He's getting close to being the greatest
Speaker 3: quarterback we've seen. But it's gonna be Tom Brady has
Speaker 3: a seventh superow so. But but you know, Travis Kelsey
Speaker 3: is the first battle of Hall of Famer. And then
Speaker 3: when it's all said and done, Chris Jones goes to
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. He's going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: He's going to end up in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: as a deterior interior to fear interior defensive lineman. And
Speaker 3: then you have Andy Reid. I mean they have and
Speaker 3: they made those things work, but you're void of talent
Speaker 3: in this league will not result in victories. They just won't.
Speaker 3: You have to have a talented roster. And while you
Speaker 3: where you can kind of skimp a little bit, and
Speaker 3: elsewhere is you have Tom Brady or you have Patrick Mahomes. Right,
Speaker 3: you have an elite. You have the elite of the
Speaker 3: elites on your roster. Now I don't think the Cowboys
Speaker 3: have they they don't have the elite of the elites
Speaker 3: on any position on this roster. But I mean Micah
Speaker 3: is An is an elite player. Cee he is an
Speaker 3: elite player. I think Dak is an above average, really
Speaker 3: really really good player doesn't get the credit. But Zach
Speaker 3: Martin is a guy who at his position for a
Speaker 3: long time has been elite at what he does. And
Speaker 3: the biggest thing for the Cowboys, because we've seen the
Speaker 3: regular season wins, they've been there. They just can't figure
Speaker 3: this thing out. And I was having a conversation with
Speaker 3: Brian Broadis yesterday. He was on my podcast on the
Speaker 3: Field with Jesse Ally on YouTube. And everybody has to
Speaker 3: bear the brunt of the lack of success for the Cowboys,
Speaker 3: Freaky Mike dan Quinn who's no longer here, Jerry and
Speaker 3: Steven will and every player that goes up there in
Speaker 3: that football field. It is a collective. Like when you
Speaker 3: go back and you think about that Green Bay game,
Speaker 3: that was bad across the board. Yeah, they looked, they
Speaker 3: looked not ready for the moment. That's a head coaching
Speaker 3: that that falls on the head coach.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: Defensively, they looked like they didn't have answers as a coaching.
Speaker 3: But then on the players. CD was pouting in the
Speaker 3: first quarter, Dak wasn't sharp, Michael wasn't there, There wasn't
Speaker 3: That's a player. That's a player issue to have yourself
Speaker 3: prepared to know what you're supposed to do offensively, defensively,
Speaker 3: and everybody has to hold that hold a piece of
Speaker 3: that loss. And but you don't win in this league
Speaker 3: without being able to say that we have some of
Speaker 3: the most talented people on our football team. You just
Speaker 3: I mean, look at the teams roundly that don't win.
Speaker 3: They don't have Pro Bowlers on their team. They don't
Speaker 3: have first team All Pro or or second team All
Speaker 3: Pro or you know, Pro bowlers in general. It's a
Speaker 3: it's a good problem to have. It's just that I
Speaker 3: think the Cowboys have potentially mismanaged their good problem.
Speaker 5: All right, let's take our first break when we come back,
Speaker 5: let's talk about I want to get your well, it's
Speaker 5: a few things. One of the Pro Day that's out here.
Speaker 5: Did you do Pro Day?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You did. Let's talk about your Pro Day and then
Speaker 5: your your expertise special teams. We get some new kickoff
Speaker 5: rule that's kind of a very dramatic change. Like I like,
Speaker 5: one thing I can say about the NFL is in
Speaker 5: the last several years, they're not afraid to mix it
Speaker 5: up and change rules. They're not like Baseball where it's
Speaker 5: like this is what we do and this is how
Speaker 5: we do it, like something like they're they're they're experimenting
Speaker 5: with things. I want to get your thoughts on the
Speaker 5: hip drop tackle. Now, I'm not really sure how I
Speaker 5: feel about. That's gonna be hard, hard, hard to officiate. Man.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about Dak and then we'll get into some
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Speaker 5: a very special in studio guest that you will not
Speaker 5: want to miss because you never know what will happen
Speaker 5: or what will be said. When the Great Charles Hayley
Speaker 5: joins the show. He's going to promote his uh Celebrity
Speaker 5: Texas HoldEm tournament that he has every year. He's got
Speaker 5: some major star power that comes out to that thing,
Speaker 5: a lot of his former teammates and a lot of
Speaker 5: areas celebrities and athletes and former athletes, and he's gonna
Speaker 5: come on and talk about that. He's gonna join us
Speaker 5: for about half the show. I think he's gonna come
Speaker 5: in about about this time, about nine to twenty next week,
Speaker 5: next Thursday, So you'll want to make sure that you
Speaker 5: tune in for that.
Speaker 3: I'll be behavior.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. You're not gonna want to miss
Speaker 5: this because for those of you that are not around Charles.
Speaker 5: For those of you that are not around Charles, Charles
Speaker 5: is a wild card. Charles will say any and everything
Speaker 5: at any point at any time, in front of anyone,
Speaker 5: So you never know what's gonna happen. So tune in
Speaker 5: to see what may or may not happen.
Speaker 3: Should I revisit our Charles and I interaction that we
Speaker 3: had a couple of years ago in the elevator.
Speaker 5: You can do you want?
Speaker 3: Do you think he'll remember?
Speaker 5: I don't think you If you're gonna revisit it, I
Speaker 5: would revisit it today, and not why he's here, because
Speaker 5: I would because I don't. I'm gonna probably be in
Speaker 5: the middle of y'all somewhere, and I don't. I don't
Speaker 5: want to get caught up in.
Speaker 3: That listenes Charles nineties Charles might have kicked my butt,
Speaker 3: might have kicked my butt, like for real.
Speaker 5: For real. Oh, he don't have a chance nineties Charles.
Speaker 5: There's probably not many men that he could not have
Speaker 5: whooped up on. Yeah, yeah, he'd been a hell of
Speaker 5: a UFC fighter back nineties Charles. But I'll tell you what,
Speaker 5: he don't have a chance today. Twenty what is this?
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty four? Twenty twenty four. Charles, for his age,
Speaker 5: could handle some some folks too. Now you you're, you know, strapping,
Speaker 5: young middle aged man that you are. I don't know
Speaker 5: if he can handle up on you now, but you know,
Speaker 5: but he's got that. He's got.
Speaker 3: Charles is a good dude.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: He's just he's just Charles's Charles.
Speaker 3: That's all you can say.
Speaker 5: It's all you can say.
Speaker 3: He's He's.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he's barefoot Charles. We'll just leave it at that,
Speaker 5: So tune in.
Speaker 3: Is he bringing his dog? If he brings his dog
Speaker 3: and bringing my dog?
Speaker 5: I don't think he brings the dogs up here anymore.
Speaker 5: Chris stopped that. Chris, does he bring the dogs up here?
Speaker 5: I have not seen the dogs in a while. Okay,
Speaker 5: they used to come. But Jess, you can bring your
Speaker 5: dog anytime you want.
Speaker 3: Buddy, Okay, my dog is I have. My dog is
Speaker 3: certified like as as emotional support dog.
Speaker 5: You should bring them up here sometimes. But he like
Speaker 5: come in here and just sit down the whole show that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: bring him up here, bring him next week, next Thursday.
Speaker 5: No too many dogs and alpha dogs in here, now,
Speaker 5: you don't do that. What's the little what's the little dog.
Speaker 3: Yet I still haven't. Don't, don't, don't kill my boy
Speaker 3: off yet.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, he's listening.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you the bones is one foot in
Speaker 3: the grade. Bone, just one ft in the grade. Baby,
Speaker 3: he's what's the new one? What's the what's the other concourse?
Speaker 3: So mamba?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah yeah, big dog? Oh yeah yeah, Wait till
Speaker 5: Nate comes back and bring yeah, bigg that's.
Speaker 3: What I said. If he brings his door, if he
Speaker 3: brings his if Charli brings his dover, man, I'm bringing mind.
Speaker 5: We don't need that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. But yeah, my boy bones, boy, he is,
Speaker 3: he is one foot in the grade.
Speaker 5: And what kind of dog is he?
Speaker 6: Frenchy I remember him on the last ye pounds he is.
Speaker 3: But my boy is one foot in the grade.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He season medicine. He's like he's all he's all jacked up.
Speaker 3: He's all jacked up, like he's he's holding on. No cantankerous,
Speaker 3: old bastard knee surgeries he's had, you know, he had
Speaker 3: one early on.
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 3: He had a c l early on.
Speaker 5: That was cheap, tell you.
Speaker 3: But I was still playing Look, I was still playing
Speaker 3: football when he That's how old he is I was
Speaker 3: when I first got Bones. I was still playing football,
Speaker 3: so it was easy year to kind of just go
Speaker 3: and pay that pay that cost way back when he
Speaker 3: gets anything now like anything now over. I shouldn't say this,
Speaker 3: please for the dog lovers, I'm a dog lover, and
Speaker 3: for the Peter lovers.
Speaker 5: Are you going to put it? Are you going to
Speaker 5: put a monetary limit on it?
Speaker 3: Seventy five dollars, he's done anything that costs more than
Speaker 3: me going to get you that needle.
Speaker 5: We're out, poor guy, we're out.
Speaker 3: I had to shift the dog's insurance because I got
Speaker 3: to put the insurance on the big dog now, the
Speaker 3: big younger dog, because he costs money anytime he has
Speaker 3: to go to the vet because of his size. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's one hundred and thirty five forty pounds. So anytime
Speaker 3: you got to put that size of a dog in
Speaker 3: the you know, the vet, they charge you extra. So
Speaker 3: I had to shift the insurance. I couldn't keep it
Speaker 3: on both dogs. I had to make a decision on
Speaker 3: which dog and Bones. You lived a really good life.
Speaker 3: We love you, but if you happen to have anything
Speaker 3: that comes over seventy five dollars, my boy, because that's
Speaker 3: the cost of that.
Speaker 5: You got to go in there to euthanize him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how old is he? Thirteen?
Speaker 5: That's a good that's a good run for a dog.
Speaker 3: It's a for a frenchie there it's like ten. Yeah,
Speaker 3: thirteen is a good run.
Speaker 5: I remember when I had dogs. Should bring bones up here? Man?
Speaker 5: Would he make it? You would make it in the car.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: You can put him like on the just put it
Speaker 5: right right there, right next to the microphone.
Speaker 3: He was snoring.
Speaker 5: Oh man, yeah, he'd be I remember back in the
Speaker 5: day where you didn't there was no dog insurance. If
Speaker 5: something bad with wrong was like well sorry. You know,
Speaker 5: white people started that the insurance.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a white person thing. And I've adopted
Speaker 3: some of the white person tendencies because I hang around.
Speaker 5: To a show on that.
Speaker 3: What are the what are the white person without a
Speaker 3: shadow of a doubt, what's the white people started dog insurance?
Speaker 5: What's the what's the biggest white tendency that you've adopted?
Speaker 3: Probably pet insurance. I'm not gonna lie. I come from
Speaker 3: a place where if something was wrong with your.
Speaker 5: Dog thought you're gonna say, Manny's and petties.
Speaker 3: That's oh, you know what, I don't know if that's
Speaker 3: a white people don't really do manny's and petties.
Speaker 5: Okay, and don't tell me my wife. The men don't no, no, no,
Speaker 5: I'm women. Men don't at all.
Speaker 3: White people be having some really crusty heels though I
Speaker 3: don't know how much they get on the heels. But
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if that's a white
Speaker 3: or black thing.
Speaker 5: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the meddies and petties. I've adopted
Speaker 3: that from because my grandmother, like was the first one
Speaker 3: to give me a manicure many many many in the
Speaker 3: years ago in high school, and I was afraid to
Speaker 3: put the clear polish on. I mean, you don't get
Speaker 3: made fun of, go Caleb Williams. But I was like
Speaker 3: it was it was a full pow to put you know,
Speaker 3: anything on your nails in Jersey. Yeah, I was like no.
Speaker 3: She was like trust me. And all the boys were
Speaker 3: kind of like ah, but the girls are like, okay,
Speaker 3: we see you, Jesse.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I was like you're gonna do it again' oh
Speaker 3: now you want to you know? So she did that long, long,
Speaker 3: long long time ago. But I would say that. Let
Speaker 3: me think.
Speaker 5: I feel like pet insurance though, is a that's a
Speaker 5: white thing. I feel like that's a peer pressure thing too.
Speaker 5: It's like, because you feel bad. If you were to
Speaker 5: put an animal down, you feel bad one you have
Speaker 5: that bond with the animal, you would feel bad person.
Speaker 5: But like I feel like people look down at you
Speaker 5: if because back in the day, that's what you did,
Speaker 5: like you know, back in the seventies, and it's.
Speaker 3: Like you doll got old ye old yellows.
Speaker 5: You get sick, all right, go take care of it.
Speaker 5: They didn't even take you to the bed, they know,
Speaker 5: took you out and I'll back, yeah.
Speaker 3: Well I'm from They just dump you off somewhere.
Speaker 5: Let nature take care of you exactly. So now you
Speaker 5: get arrested, you do something.
Speaker 3: I know, like now I'm like, but for sure, like
Speaker 3: because a lot of white people, they'll go like, like,
Speaker 3: if your dog has cancer, they'll go like chemo and
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's yeah, yeah, we went through that last year.
Speaker 3: Sorry, did you really sorry? Emotional thing?
Speaker 5: It's all good. No, they want to do chemo on
Speaker 5: my cat.
Speaker 3: My cat, there's no way, see what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I told it's no way, I'm not spending a
Speaker 3: dollar more than dude, trust me.
Speaker 5: They're like, it's gonna be one thousand dollars for this chemo.
Speaker 5: And I told my wife, I'm like, yeah, that's what
Speaker 5: I love. Dollars, but that's not gonna happen. And this
Speaker 5: pet co on the weekend and take them all, rescue
Speaker 5: all all of them. It's one sacrifice, one for many. Man,
Speaker 5: we're gonna get so much trouble talking about Yeah problem,
Speaker 5: let's get let's get off something. Let's go uh Jesse's
Speaker 5: pro Day? Oh yeah, tell us about that process? What
Speaker 5: is that? How is that nerve wracking?
Speaker 3: Or is that fun?
Speaker 5: You get hyped? What's it like?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You get hyped because the thing I loved about
Speaker 3: the pro day was it was it was in our building, right,
Speaker 3: so you know everything, you're excited about it. You kind
Speaker 3: of control the atmosphere, a little bit familiar with the turf, Yeah,
Speaker 3: all of those things. You get the cool gear to
Speaker 3: go out there and do stuff with. I'm trying to think.
Speaker 3: I think I thought I did really good at at
Speaker 3: at at pro Day, and and and who through to you?
Speaker 3: Darien Durant, his brother played linebacker here.
Speaker 5: Kevin Kevin Kevin dur Not Kevin Durrant. That's what started
Speaker 5: with a key. Okay, didn't I remember him? He was
Speaker 5: here for a few years, yeah, three years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his brother Darren Durant. He was my quarterback my
Speaker 3: freshman year and he had Darren went up to the
Speaker 3: CFL and had a really good career in the CFL,
Speaker 3: like it was one of the highest paid quarterbacks in
Speaker 3: the CFL history. And he threw to me it was
Speaker 3: it was great, justin Justin Durant. Yeah, And it's funny
Speaker 3: because all the teams that eventually wanted me to sign,
Speaker 3: we're at Pro Day. Like I didn't run fast enough
Speaker 3: for the Raiders. I fit every other bill for the Raiders.
Speaker 3: I was big, I was strong, was physical. I just
Speaker 3: wasn't fast. Four or five something. Four or five is
Speaker 3: not fast enough to be a Raider, No Raiders.
Speaker 6: Like if you run the fastest at the combine, you're
Speaker 6: probably gonna get drafted by the Raiders.
Speaker 3: Right like like Worthy probably know the Raiders remember Darius
Speaker 3: Hayward Bay from Maryland, Like he wasn't like he ran
Speaker 3: a four five, four to three something. They were like, oh,
Speaker 3: we'll take him. It was a bush.
Speaker 5: It was a bus n.
Speaker 3: Fast as as al Davis. But like the Raiders, the
Speaker 3: Rams when they were still in Saint Louis, the Ravens,
Speaker 3: Cincinnati was there. It was it was I mean, it
Speaker 3: was a I think at that time on my team,
Speaker 3: I probably was one of the highest like looking things,
Speaker 3: what do you want to call prospects at that time.
Speaker 3: There's another running back, Ronnie McGill. It was actually a
Speaker 3: big time scout in New England, has been there for
Speaker 3: a while. Was a running back. But he had he
Speaker 3: had a disease where his body produced too much creatine.
Speaker 3: Your body naturally produces creating. His produced too much, and
Speaker 3: so when he would get over exerted, like literally in games,
Speaker 3: we would have to purposely pull him out, like cool
Speaker 3: him down, give him like ivs like after quarters and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. He would get into these full body
Speaker 3: cramps to where like his entire body locked up. Oh
Speaker 3: but he was a rock like I don't think there
Speaker 3: was a portion of his body that wasn't a muscle.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 3: Everything was yoked up. Earlob was yoked up. Everything was crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: pro day was cool. It's you're a little bit nerve
Speaker 3: racking because you just you want to impress. You want
Speaker 3: to go out there. You don't want to drop a ball,
Speaker 3: you don't want to stumble on the route, you don't
Speaker 3: want to do anything that you know. You want to
Speaker 3: make sure that confidence is there. But from many of
Speaker 3: these guys, man, Like, when you think about it at
Speaker 3: the end of like as a whole, if you're a
Speaker 3: Texas kid, if you're barely you're playing in front of.
Speaker 5: One hundred thousand people, right, say nothing and you've done it.
Speaker 5: You've done it for so long.
Speaker 3: This is football, you know what I'm saying. This is
Speaker 3: this is this is the part where I get the combine.
Speaker 3: But when you're at your own place, this is a
Speaker 3: little bit more settling for you to go out there
Speaker 3: and perform.
Speaker 5: Anybody get drafted off y'alls team my senior year, Yeah no.
Speaker 3: The next year a couple of guys went. A couple
Speaker 3: of guys we the next year Hakeen Nicks was on.
Speaker 3: That was on our our team. You know who, you
Speaker 3: know who? Uh It ended up being a really good player,
Speaker 3: played in the league for a long time. Was on
Speaker 3: our practice squad.
Speaker 5: T J.
Speaker 3: Yates, he was a quarterback at Houston couldn't even crack
Speaker 3: the starting lineup. It was insane.
Speaker 5: He might have been in the league for eight, nine,
Speaker 5: ten years. Whatever.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I found the acc pro date North Carolina, Jesse Holly.
Speaker 3: Knows if you want me to, I don't want to
Speaker 3: hear what about me? Okay?
Speaker 6: So he ran between a four five eight and a
Speaker 6: four six two in the forty Okay. At the pro
Speaker 6: day he had a four point three to three short shuttle,
Speaker 6: a six point ninety six three cone. You did everything,
Speaker 6: by the way, thirty four and a half inch vertical,
Speaker 6: six foot nine broad jump eighteen on the bench.
Speaker 3: Let's go go, Let's go. I was joked up, baby,
Speaker 3: I was joked up. I was yulked up.
Speaker 6: Reps on the for two twenty five on the bench,
Speaker 6: it says measured six foot two in the quarter two
Speaker 6: nineteen and the notes were very strong. But also played
Speaker 6: earlier in his career on basketball team deceptive speed. It
Speaker 6: takes him a few steps to build up to full stride.
Speaker 6: Facts produced solid numbers of a variety of UH signal callers.
Speaker 5: There you go, as I got. That's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not bad. I was nervous. Did you read that?
Speaker 5: I was like, what do they say, yeah, like reading
Speaker 5: page line, like, oh my god.
Speaker 6: March fourteen, two thousand and seven was when this was written.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my senior I should have left my junior year,
Speaker 3: which was my best year that I had in school.
Speaker 3: In fact, the quarterback that actually came here and played
Speaker 3: Matt Baker. Matt Baker played here. Crowdchap called him Crowdshaker Baker.
Speaker 3: He played backup quarterback here with the Cowboys. He was
Speaker 3: my quarterback my junior year, and we had really good
Speaker 3: chemistry actually my sophomore and junior year, and then my
Speaker 3: senior year we went to this two quarterback system and
Speaker 3: it was atrocious. We had a traveler, we had a
Speaker 3: transfer from Nebraska, Joe Daily, he's from New Jersey, and
Speaker 3: we had another guy named Cam Sexton, and it was
Speaker 3: so horrible because they were changing out series and now
Speaker 3: both of them were scared to throw the ball and
Speaker 3: I'm just like, and it was fun. We were playing.
Speaker 3: We were playing Virginia at Virginia in a night game
Speaker 3: and some they caught me on one of those big
Speaker 3: boom mics. This is before I found, like really really
Speaker 3: found the Lord and stopped cussing.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 3: Virginia's talking so much trash to me because at the time,
Speaker 3: this young kid, Hakeem Nix is starting to kind of bubble,
Speaker 3: and so the DB's over there that I've known for
Speaker 3: a couple of years. Uh, it was a girl situation
Speaker 3: that they were kind of One of their teammates had
Speaker 3: a girl that we went to our school and may
Speaker 3: made allegedly allegedly she spent some time in my dorm room,
Speaker 3: allegedly allegedly. So there was a lot of going back
Speaker 3: and forth, and I'm not getting the ball, and they're like,
Speaker 3: you're letting that sophomore that that I outwork. He's better
Speaker 3: than I'm hot, and they come off. I'm come off
Speaker 3: the sideline and I'm cussing Joe Daly out and but
Speaker 3: I'm walking right by the big plastic boom thing whatever
Speaker 3: that what's that called? What was that?
Speaker 5: Like a boom the directional mike?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like it's a parabolic mic, the parabolic
Speaker 3: mic whatever that means. And I'm like, what the plea,
Speaker 3: don't be the I'm like, I'm going off. After the game.
Speaker 3: I get back to my phone, there's like thirty text
Speaker 3: message from my mom my brother Broaday, like, bro, why
Speaker 3: were you cussing like that? I was going off. I
Speaker 3: was so embarrassed because everybody back home heard me cussing.
Speaker 3: I ended that game with like two catches for like
Speaker 3: nineteen yards. It was bad.
Speaker 5: It was bad. Since that's on TV. And before we
Speaker 5: go to break brief thoughts on the uh, they've got
Speaker 5: a bones fossil on Good Morning Football talking about the
Speaker 5: h the new kickoff rule change. What do you what
Speaker 5: do you think about that? Briefly talk about what it.
Speaker 3: Is, and then show the new rules if you familiar
Speaker 3: with what they did in the XFL and how they
Speaker 3: changed rule in the NFL wants to eliminate that contact
Speaker 3: high collision. Yeah, so you're talking about a forty yard
Speaker 3: head start running down there into a you know, into
Speaker 3: another human being. They kind of want to eliminate that.
Speaker 3: I mean, they should did this years ago because when
Speaker 3: I came to the league, you ran down they were
Speaker 3: doing like the Wall. It was the wall, four guys holding.
Speaker 5: Hands, wedge, wedge buster.
Speaker 3: Boy, I was a Westbuster. And then they did two
Speaker 3: by two.
Speaker 5: It's like red Rover.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Then they were like, Okay, we can't do the we
Speaker 3: can't do the wedge wall anymore. So we're gonna do
Speaker 3: two by two or two by four. You gotta two
Speaker 3: guys gotta be up two yards or up four yards
Speaker 3: and two yards apart. Whatever. The kind of stagnated a
Speaker 3: little bit. Then they were like, that's not working. And
Speaker 3: so now they're going into this the XFL type thing
Speaker 3: where they'll start guys in this one of the zone
Speaker 3: they want to call them in. And so there's now
Speaker 3: only like maybe like a ten yard collision, which is
Speaker 3: going to actually, I think create more big plays on
Speaker 3: the Yeah, it's gonna be a lot more exciting because
Speaker 3: once you get through.
Speaker 5: That, that's it is it is. They're not stag like
Speaker 5: this gas faster than this guy.
Speaker 3: It's like you're right there.
Speaker 5: In yard sprint. You break through that walls.
Speaker 3: And it's gonna be you and the kicker. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be you when the kicker.
Speaker 6: So tur Turpin probably walked into Jerry's office and sat
Speaker 6: Iud was like, so you guys want to talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the turf's only problem is he just doesn't know
Speaker 3: when to run to open space. Don't run towards the kicker, turping,
Speaker 3: run to that space where nobody's standing and just keep
Speaker 3: going really fast. But no, this is I think this
Speaker 3: will be. This will bring some excitement back to the game.
Speaker 3: But I also say this, if this doesn't work.
Speaker 5: That's it. Get rid of the kickoff.
Speaker 3: They're gonna get rid of it. Like this is the
Speaker 3: last ditch resort. Like, this is the last ditch resort because.
Speaker 5: You just start on the twenty five or whatever.
Speaker 3: Just get the ball in twenty five. Yeah, does like hey,
Speaker 3: you know what, hey ball on twenty five. Oh, we're
Speaker 3: not even and that's gonna cost a lot of people jobs. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and this is this is going to be. I think
Speaker 3: this is gonna be fun. This is going to be
Speaker 3: You're gonna see a lot more skill guys out there
Speaker 3: now because you need guys that want that are fast,
Speaker 3: that are flexible, agile, athletic, because you're working in coat
Speaker 3: quarters right so now I got to be able to
Speaker 3: shed this block and be able to reach a guy.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna see more safeties, more receivers, running backs,
Speaker 3: tight ends. You'll see more of those guys, you know,
Speaker 3: the hybrid linebackers. You'll see more of those guys on
Speaker 3: this on the teams now, and you will you'll see
Speaker 3: the big fat boys so I like it. I think
Speaker 3: it's I think it's cool. You know, as a guy
Speaker 3: who played special teams and who who's been in I
Speaker 3: haven't been in this area, but I've been in the
Speaker 3: multiple eras of how to change the rules, and this
Speaker 3: is the safest. And there's one thing about this one
Speaker 3: this in the NFL says we want to care about
Speaker 3: your bodies and care about the players health. This is
Speaker 3: one way to do so because you're eliminating some of
Speaker 3: that bone shattering, teeth clenching impact when you got a
Speaker 3: guy running forty yards with the head start running dead
Speaker 3: smack into you with reckless abandons.
Speaker 6: So I think one of the reasons they changed it
Speaker 6: also is I think I saw this. There was thirteen
Speaker 6: kickoffs in the Super Bowl last year, and all thirteen
Speaker 6: or touchbacks.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean everybody has a leg now, Bory,
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, yeah, no excitement.
Speaker 5: All right, let's take our last break when we come back.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about Dak Prescott in his contract. What Jesse's
Speaker 5: thoughts are on hanging with the boys.
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Speaker 5: Enter today to Hanging with the Bulls. Welcome back to
Speaker 5: the final few minutes of Hanging with the Boys, the
Speaker 5: last segment brought to you each and every day by Jigsaw,
Speaker 5: The official dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, Shannon Gross,
Speaker 5: Jesse Holly. We are Kurt and Nateless got Chris Beam
Speaker 5: in the back making sure we You.
Speaker 3: Think Nate gonna have to make the stalliones when he
Speaker 3: comes back, he's gonna be able to drop down and
Speaker 3: shake it a little something.
Speaker 5: I don't know about that. You know, he still got
Speaker 5: the back. He still got that back. It's gonna be
Speaker 5: interesting because he he was he was he was having
Speaker 5: a hard time getting up and down the hall like
Speaker 5: it took him. It took him a minute to get
Speaker 5: to the back door. So I'm so, what was that?
Speaker 3: Need are hips?
Speaker 5: It's probably a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's probably a little bit of everything. Nate. If you're
Speaker 3: listening to Texas, is it is hips?
Speaker 5: Next he listen? Kurt's probably listening. Nate's Kurt. I'll tell
Speaker 5: you who's listening. Kurt and miss k upstairs. Hey, miss
Speaker 5: k that's probably it. It's Kate.
Speaker 3: I was about to say something that I probably should say.
Speaker 5: Sorry, miss Kay, don't say it if you have to.
Speaker 11: Ye.
Speaker 5: It's like when you look in the mirror, say should
Speaker 5: I wear this to work?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: You probably wouldn't Wearah I'm not going to catch yourself.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so it's probably a little bit of everything.
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm glad, I'm glad he I'm glad he
Speaker 5: got it done. Hopefully he'd be he'd be getting around
Speaker 5: a little bit Better's funny, Nate's the best is the guy,
Speaker 5: the most random human.
Speaker 3: I was just looking at like past shows and like
Speaker 3: like we're doing He never mentioned it, like that's the
Speaker 3: part is insane, like it never maybe not maybe they never.
Speaker 3: I can never hear the text. Never had no point
Speaker 3: tell he was like, hey, fellas, at some point, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to Hey shoot prayer for you. Boy. I'm
Speaker 3: about to go. I won't be in next week. Guys.
Speaker 3: It just was we got a text.
Speaker 5: That's his bit. I was, that's his bit.
Speaker 3: Was like, bro, Like at no point like there is
Speaker 3: like you just don't. You don't get up on a
Speaker 3: Monday morning and say, you know what, we'll run on
Speaker 3: down here to the to the orthopedic surgeons.
Speaker 5: Get both of these knees.
Speaker 3: Both of these knees knocked out.
Speaker 5: Me like a five hour six stuff.
Speaker 3: People got to put it on the books, like there's preparations.
Speaker 3: You gotta go. You gotta go in and make sure
Speaker 3: all your vitals is right to get to the surgery party.
Speaker 3: Never mentioned it, never mentioned it.
Speaker 5: That's his not once, that's his bit. If I'm having
Speaker 5: double knees, y'all gonna know about it for a long time.
Speaker 3: I would be like, here's the hostge I would sit
Speaker 3: flowers and cookies and edible edible arrangements, range arrange.
Speaker 5: Look kind of arrangements. Yeah, So hopefully Nate's back in.
Speaker 5: He said it's gonna be four or five weeks. Hopefully
Speaker 5: he's hopefully's back on the show before then. But if not,
Speaker 5: prayers out to you in all right, real quick, last
Speaker 5: few minutes of the show. What's going on with Dak?
Speaker 5: What do you think they're doing with Do you think
Speaker 5: they're letting this play out and then he's gone after
Speaker 5: this year? Or do you think they're waiting to see
Speaker 5: how he plays? Because if you don't do a deal
Speaker 5: with him now, it's if he hits open market, he's
Speaker 5: gonna be a top Kirk Cousins got what he got
Speaker 5: Dak's getting. Dak's gonna be a top one or two
Speaker 5: paid quarterback in the league because free agents like him
Speaker 5: don't hit the market.
Speaker 3: If Dak gets to the season and the deal's not done.
Speaker 5: He's gone.
Speaker 3: He's gone.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be able for here to bring him
Speaker 5: back if you keep Mike n CD right.
Speaker 3: He's done on an ego, on an egle.
Speaker 5: Purpose, just that he wouldn't come back just because like
Speaker 5: I wasn't iant.
Speaker 3: I want it import enough to you to do this beforehand, right, Like,
Speaker 3: so if he gets to if he gets to the season,
Speaker 3: there's no deal done.
Speaker 5: And then that would be twice that they've kind of
Speaker 5: with him like that before and not lock him up
Speaker 5: until it got down to like cutting time. Right.
Speaker 3: But I think, I think, and we don't know what
Speaker 3: goes on behind the scenes with Todd Frantz and and
Speaker 3: and and the Joneses. But as the months get closer
Speaker 3: and closer, because also you're looking at if if I'm
Speaker 3: a quarterback and and this is also CD, this is
Speaker 3: also Micah. If I'm if, I'm looking how things are
Speaker 3: are working themselves out right and how things are kind
Speaker 3: of unfolding. Do I take my deals now or do
Speaker 3: I go, You're not gonna stick me here in purgatory
Speaker 3: for the next couple of years. If I'm if I'm
Speaker 3: Cede Lamb and I'm saying that you're not gonna give
Speaker 3: me a quarterback, then I'll take my chances going somewhere
Speaker 3: else where. I can actually have a quarterback. Because CD
Speaker 3: wants to get the contract, I can pick my quarterback.
Speaker 3: I can pick my quarterback right like, because this contract
Speaker 3: will be the big contract that he gets. But after that,
Speaker 3: you still want to get to that third one, which
Speaker 3: is kind of really that you know, you get that
Speaker 3: really big one. But yeah, I mean this is Ifdak
Speaker 3: gets to the season and is no deal done, I
Speaker 3: find it very hard to believe that he he comes back,
Speaker 3: just I wouldn't. Yeah, Like this second time, y'all played
Speaker 3: in my face.
Speaker 5: And you know it's crazy. I think half of our
Speaker 5: fan base would hate that. Yep, and half of our
Speaker 5: fan base would love that.
Speaker 3: But what they're going to really realize is how lucky
Speaker 3: and blessed they've been for the last twenty years, right
Speaker 3: because it's hard to find a quarterback.
Speaker 5: They don't they don't remember Quincy and Chad.
Speaker 3: It's hard to find a quarterback, man. And when you
Speaker 3: when you flirt, when you flirt with that chick on
Speaker 3: finding a quarterback, it could get ugly, and you can
Speaker 3: find yourself in the position of going ten twelve fifteen
Speaker 3: to twelve fifteen years of not finding one, because now
Speaker 3: you start, you start reaching like that's a very, very
Speaker 3: slippery slope and it's the one position that is so
Speaker 3: vital and important to your You ain't got a quarterback,
Speaker 3: you don't got a chance. Look at Cleveland, you don't
Speaker 3: have a chance.
Speaker 5: Cleveland couldn't find one for the last how many years?
Speaker 3: I know all those I mean, And that is this
Speaker 3: slippery slope that you.
Speaker 5: Flirt with because even the sure things are fifty percent,
Speaker 5: fifty percent Kaylen Williams fifty percent that he's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Good, Caleb Drake, Jaydon Daniels, all these guys are all
Speaker 3: fifty percent chance. It's it's about scheme, it's about fit,
Speaker 3: it's about timing, it's about a lot of different things.
Speaker 3: Because for every for every Peyton Mannings, there's a Ryan
Speaker 3: Leaf right for for for all of these quarterbacks, it's
Speaker 3: it's a it's what was a sure shot in college
Speaker 3: is not a sure shot in the league. Everyone thought
Speaker 3: that Bryce Young was gonna come in and take the
Speaker 3: you know, be the next thing. Same thing with guys
Speaker 3: like Kylin Murray is and it doesn't look that way.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't look that way for some of these guys.
Speaker 3: So for for for the Cowboys to flirt in those
Speaker 3: waters with potentially finding a new quarterback, boy, you can
Speaker 3: be on quarterback bumble. Just keep swiping, You'll you'll be Jigsaw.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, quarterback Jigsaw.
Speaker 5: Did they swipe?
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're doing, Jigsaw, puzzle piece. You
Speaker 3: can be finding. You'll be looking for that match. You'll
Speaker 3: be looking for that match.
Speaker 5: Did you get to that last piece? You're like, we
Speaker 5: got it, and need you hit that last piece? You're like, oh, no, that's.
Speaker 3: Not it, that's not it. So and that's the thing
Speaker 3: I think fans will realize. It's honestly, well, I rather
Speaker 3: I rather go into the season knowing that we don't
Speaker 3: have a chance, and then going to the season and
Speaker 3: saying that we have a chance and then losing it
Speaker 3: at the end. That's not true. Like, that's not true,
Speaker 3: that's not true. I'll take my chances knowing that we
Speaker 3: have a chance and we fail at the end. They're
Speaker 3: walking to the season and going.
Speaker 5: And that's coming from somebody that played Yeah, that's somebody
Speaker 5: that puts blood, sweat and tears.
Speaker 3: I want to give me my chance, give me my shot,
Speaker 3: whether that percentage is. I want to know that I'm
Speaker 3: playing in January, whether that be for one week in
Speaker 3: January or all the way to February. Don't let me not,
Speaker 3: because don't let me know in February. I mean in
Speaker 3: September that.
Speaker 5: Let me roll the dice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this ain't if October comes and I'm like.
Speaker 5: This, am I Where am I going?
Speaker 3: In the off season, they start sending the cars you
Speaker 3: want to start seems start seeing teams pack it up.
Speaker 3: That's how right there.
Speaker 5: It's a It's a weird thing, man. It's a weird
Speaker 5: thing to see this play out publicly with the you know,
Speaker 5: the family saying that they don't they don't have the
Speaker 5: money to spend, and then not locking back up, and
Speaker 5: then not really seeing all these people leave and not
Speaker 5: bringing anybody in, and what was the uh? What's the state?
Speaker 5: Cowboys have spent eleven million in free agency and the
Speaker 5: next lowest amount in the entire league is over three
Speaker 5: times that amount, and that's the Chargers at thirty nine million.
Speaker 5: So they're not bringing anybody in. They're letting everybody go.
Speaker 5: It looks like they're planning for the future to clear
Speaker 5: out cap space. And if that's the case, then you
Speaker 5: you if that's your logic, then you can't sign Dak.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest. If that's where you're going, Like
Speaker 3: if your if your plan is clearing cap space, if
Speaker 3: your plan is to kind of rebuild this thing, go
Speaker 3: on in, like for real real, go.
Speaker 5: All in, just start over, just clear it all out.
Speaker 3: Trade CD, trade Mike, get picks, skip picks, Go and
Speaker 3: go and get with CD and Micah. You can go
Speaker 3: and get four maybe if it if you can sit
Speaker 3: down with DAK and you can say, you know what
Speaker 3: here we're gonna do. I know you have no trade
Speaker 3: clause in your contract, and know that if we can
Speaker 3: find a mutual team that agrees to trade for you,
Speaker 3: would you like, what are what are some teams that
Speaker 3: you would agree to go? What would you give? Where
Speaker 3: would you go? Because if that's the case, then I'm
Speaker 3: taking those three jokers and I'm I'm shopping them. If
Speaker 3: my plan is to start this thing all over to rebuild,
Speaker 3: then I'm saying if my court, because if the court,
Speaker 3: if DAK walks, not only do you not get anything
Speaker 3: in return for him, you're still own the books for him,
Speaker 3: dead money, dead money. And again the bigger you get
Speaker 3: nothing in return, and now you're searching with emptier pockets
Speaker 3: then you started with. So if that's the case, let's
Speaker 3: find let's find let's find a partner. Well, we could
Speaker 3: do a sign and trade and you can go there
Speaker 3: and we can get maybe a first round pick or
Speaker 3: two back. Same thing for Michael Micha And should Michael
Speaker 3: should be able to run you too, first round picks. See,
Speaker 3: these should be able to get you a first round pick,
Speaker 3: right vice versus there should be four to five first
Speaker 3: round picks plus for those three guys. Get them and
Speaker 3: now let's take them with your first round picks. We're
Speaker 3: talking now, in the next year or two.
Speaker 5: Then you get both the Dion's kids here, you mean
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter, his stepson.
Speaker 3: You can keep Shiloh, you can keep.
Speaker 5: Shallow at the top four or five, maybe both of them.
Speaker 3: No, not Shallow.
Speaker 5: That's what he said the other day.
Speaker 3: I think Travis Hunter. He said both Travis Hunter and Shador.
Speaker 3: Travis Shallow's not going top four.
Speaker 5: I heard that wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Travis hunter athletically will his
Speaker 3: his numbers will be off the charts. Well, he does
Speaker 3: all this combined stuff like he's one of those physically freaks.
Speaker 3: He'll run fast, he'll jump high, he'll he'll move effortlessly,
Speaker 3: and he might he might who knows? Two way player,
Speaker 3: but Chador has a chance. I had a chance.
Speaker 5: It'd be interesting. So well, Jesse, this was fun.
Speaker 3: Man, man before yeah, do this more often?
Speaker 5: May let me start a spin off show somewhere. That's
Speaker 5: the two of us, just two. By the way, that
Speaker 5: was who was it, Chris?
Speaker 3: It was Bill Withers and Grover.
Speaker 5: Washington Washington featuring Bill Withers, which I don't remember the
Speaker 5: Grover Washington part, but I do remember Bill Withers. So well, Jesse,
Speaker 5: this was fun. We'll have a full crew minus probably
Speaker 5: Nate with special guests Charles Haley next week. Make sure
Speaker 5: you tune in and catch that. Chris. Thanks for keeping
Speaker 5: us on the air. What's my man's name, Josh? Josh?
Speaker 5: Keeping us up on all the socials. Saw Josh this morning,
Speaker 5: by the way, walking in he's in here, actually, hey, Josh,
Speaker 5: what's up? Thanks for keeping Chris company, Jazz. We will
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