WEBVTT - Hangin’ with the ‘Boys: Gruesome Twosome 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.360 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:06.960 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:16.200 Cowboys blowing out of the backfields. 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:20.000 Next flowing down the sideline, he is. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:24.200 Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing Stuff where Flavor 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:29.040 gets its wings. Now your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.640 Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:42.320 Thursday ninety You're looking live at Tostitos Championship Plaza with 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.400 some weird shadows going on, where it is forty eight degrees, 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.959 feels like forty six. The high today is seventy two, 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.440 the load to nice fifty six, almost a perfect day. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.400 And on the video board you see the big what 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:55.680 is it, Big twelve. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.560 Chris Big Big Big twelve Pro day Friday. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.400 Start going online as we speak. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:07.360 And next to me, Man, that's interesting. You're Shannon, Yes, 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.680 that's christ and about Yes, I'm Jesse. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.000 Yes, that's it. 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.760 That's it, that's it, that's that's how, that's how we 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.360 got together. We make hanging with when I was left 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.240 of us, we make hanging with the boys the sports 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:25.440 talk equivalent of Braille people. Us. I said to me 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:31.560 us us us, Yeah, Well, when we will speak, look 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:31.760 at this. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:32.560 I like this shot. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:33.160 I do too. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.959 I like this, So don't tune out. It's just me 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.920 and Jesse for better or for worse. We got you 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.080 guys that you guys have a handle, trust man, that 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:43.920 one we we definitely got to handle. 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.360 We got knee problems on this show. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.559 Thinking that we got on this show. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.600 Yeah, we got problem. We got knee issues on this show. Man, 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.040 we got we got some knee shoes. We got some 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.040 we we need. We might need to go see well, 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.880 they probably went to guard to see doctor Cooper. We 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:02.559 got a lot of the issues on this show. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.600 Well, I hope everybody gets better. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:05.640 Kurt. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.680 Kurt's fine. By the way, Yes, Curtis family member has 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.519 has uh something going on, So Kurt had to he 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.760 had to check out for today. But that's okay because 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:16.640 it's me and Jesse, and very rarely is it just 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:17.240 me and Jesse. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.399 You think it's ever when you and I I don't 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:19.720 think so. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.960 Maybe once, Maybe it's a weird arrangement. Close up. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:27.560 When you hear that song, what do you think of? 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.040 Uh, there's a commercial with it, but I can't remember. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.400 Well, who do you think of as the the artist 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:38.480 behind it song? I don't know who is the artist 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.560 behind I'm not the original, but I always think about 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.640 Will Smith's Who's the original? 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.560 Chris not Al Green? Is it? 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.080 I'll look it up. 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.840 Who is? It's gonna be somebody you're gonna hear, oh yeah, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.800 Or is it gonna be somebody weird that you're like, No, 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.399 it's gonna be somebody we know. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:56.040 So I can't think of it right now. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.960 A lot going on, man, a lot of a lot 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:03.679 of This is the weirdest off season ever. You and 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.480 I were talking about this before the show, and I 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:13.079 don't remember. I don't think it's ever happened. Correct me 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.280 if I'm wrong, But I don't remember the organization ever 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.400 saying that they don't have money to spend. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.360 You mean the guys on the four blist, Yes, you 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:23.679 mean the guy who have the most. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.320 And see and look. So I got opinions about that. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.720 I think that was a bad choice of words to 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.040 our fan base because our fan base takes that literally. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.400 What they mean is the team doesn't have wiggle room, 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.960 and I think they're trying to clear future cap space 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.520 up because they've drawn this. They've drawn several contracts out 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.800 over the last what eight ten years to where they 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.960 got in this spot where they can't afford to sign. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.640 But of course they can afford it. They're the Jones family. 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.560 They have billions of dollars. They can't afford to sign 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.520 these in the parameters of the NFL and their. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.560 Money, their their personal money and their team money are 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.920 two separate moneys, right, they they ain't the same money. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.200 The fan base does not realize that what. 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.040 They got, what they got at the Bank of America 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.480 and what they got at the Bank of the NFL, right, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.159 ain't the same money those two money, don't. They ain't 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:19.480 joint accounts. They don't. 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.720 Their NFL money runs out real quick. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:27.040 There's not join the Yankees have, like Yankee money, Baseball money. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.160 Baseball, right, that goes into that football. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.480 If you were now, if you were in baseball or 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.159 even the NBA, where there's just a luxury tax and 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.480 all that, you said, we can't afford it, then yes, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.919 let's let's get upset. But like that's our fans getting 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.159 upset because of that choice of words. I think. Is 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:44.920 it used to be that way? 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.320 Yeah, that's when the nineties happened, right when you could 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.520 spend whatever you wanted and there was no cap and 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.560 there was no It was to the highest. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.680 Bidder, and there was not parody in the NFL, and 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.440 that was not good for the aim because there were 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.000 teams that were take Can the forty nine ers and 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.400 the Cowboys, and you had the same teams winning over 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.720 and over and over. So they wanted it to be 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.840 a level playing field and they were like, oh, let's 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:14.720 which in a way kind of isn't fair because I. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.279 Think that's what Jerry meant when he said, if you 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:17.719 do this side the check that I would write for 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.200 a Super Bowl. I think he's I think he's thinking 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.280 of the nineties, He's I think he's thinking of the 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:22.400 yes two years. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.839 Yeah, I mean kind of puts it in the hands 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.159 of your lawyers and your your money guys, and your 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.200 you know your law you know your contract guys on 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.200 how creative you can get with the cap and how 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.920 you can adjust this and if you're it really really 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.440 the last I guess this has really stood out probably 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:44.200 the last what six seven years, where your quarterback on 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:48.039 a rookie deal can make or break you as far 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.320 as like building your team out. A lot of teams 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.359 are like looking for that quarterback to you know, because 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.799 then you, then you age out and you age into 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.719 that second contract, and then all that money goes to 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.560 your quarterback and then you have divisioncies everywhere else. You've 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.760 seen it with what Rock Pardy, You've seen it with 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:05.920 who's some other young guys. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.880 I think someone said the other day, if you look 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:14.040 at the super Bowl winning teams over the last couple 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.560 of years, I think it was like if you take 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:21.919 out like Tom Brady or something like that, most of 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.919 those guys won super Bowls on their rookie deals, Like 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.480 most of those quarterbacks were like on their rookie deals 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.760 or stuff like that. It was something of that effect 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.040 where you were able just to build better teams when 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.960 you're a quarterback, wasn't taking up damn near third with 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.799 it seems like of your salary cap. But the point 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:45.640 I think sometimes frustrates fans and and even you know, 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:50.839 just people in general, but fans in particular, is there's 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.320 so there's so many brilliant people that work behind the 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.640 scenes in every organization, not just the Cowboys, but every organization, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:06.320 and getting to the point we are now, it's not 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.840 a surprise, you know what I'm saying, Like they knew 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.760 what was coming. They knew that the credit card bill 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.880 was eventually going to come a knocking. They knew that 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.320 ten years ago, because the plan ten years ago was, hey, 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.040 ten years from now, we gotta be able to do 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.440 woo whoop because this money will kick down the road. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.280 And so they continue. So every single year there were 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:36.080 plans put in place, and there were plans built around 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:42.600 the premise of eventually this is coming. So it don't 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.520 get me wrong. In that moment of time, it's the 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.280 credit card methodology, right. It's like, listen, in this moment, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.520 my favorite artist is coming to town, and I got 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.200 more month than money. My boy, I got that credit 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:01.560 card and I ain't missing this com right, But I 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.000 know I'm gonna be eating sandwiches. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.480 I can pinch pennies down the road to get this 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.280 paid off. Or you know what, I might be in 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.320 a better situation financially. I might get a better I 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:12.760 might get a better job. I might get a rate, 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.680 the salary cap might increase, the TV money might be bigger. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:17.400 It might be And I think that that was some 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.120 of the thought processes in as well. But also you 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:25.520 say to yourself, boy, but for this momentarily, drink a beer. Boy, 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.760 I might have eat. I'ma have you a time tonight. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.280 I'm right, And that's that's the moment we're gonna go 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.760 out after I'm gona have me. The drinks will be flowing, 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.079 the the vibe will be lit like that is the 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.920 feeling that and and and on a personal level, you 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.640 say to yourself, boy, it was worth it. I deserved, Boy, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:47.360 it was worth it. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:48.960 I created a memory. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.480 And for the Cowboys and for for sports teams, it's 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.280 if I can be less sneed and go f these 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.640 picks and f this money and these contracts we hoisted. 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.920 A Lombardi will have that forever, like you'll have those 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:06.280 moments forever, but eventually you got to pay. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.640 And if you got to, if you don't get that trophy, 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.360 then it's all for nothing. And I think it's weird 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:16.160 because that's a pitfall of having a talented roster. 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:20.720 I'm sorry, I'm so distracted. My collar is atrocious? Is it? 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.080 Why didn't no one tell me? 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:23.920 I didn't notice it because it's on that side. I 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:25.360 didn't say I would have told you. No. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.199 It's just it's just it's not It's just one of 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.400 those things where this shirt is just you know, your 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.480 collar gets a little bit wrangled. And before people started 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.160 getting on that one, I'm gonna call it out myself. 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:34.400 I just saw it. I was like, I'm not gonna 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:35.880 let people talk about me behind the scenes. 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.160 But yeah, I hate when you have like a like 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.400 a T shirt and it gets a weird crease like 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.680 either the sleeve or the collar where you can't straighten 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:49.439 it out. Just basically, you know what happened? Your neck 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.720 got you fast and like it's got a little slack 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.200 in it. Now you're filling it up. Sorry, I'm sorry, 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.559 but having a talented roster and maybe that's what happened 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:03.640 to the Cowboys because you have so many high profile start. Look, 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.800 you got Dak now, and it's crazy to me that there. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:12.679 We've always always extended our quarterback, right, We've always they 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.280 got Basically they got in trouble with the cap now 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.800 because they well they kind of drugged their feet. But 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.280 then they but like there's talk now they might just 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.400 let this thing ride out and then and then you know, 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:24.920 and then we'll get at the end of that in 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.720 a minute. But you got Dak, you got CD, you 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.600 got Micah. You know, those all three of them could 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.360 be the highest paid person at their position. Yeah, you 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.840 want that, you know, Jerry Jerry said, I think yesterday 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.400 that's a problem that you want to have, right, it's 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.720 good problem, or is it like or is it better 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.360 to have like really good talent and not you know, 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.360 top tier in all three of the most important positions 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:53.800 and that that's a week that's a great you know, 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:54.680 it's a hard question. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.400 You don't win in this league without talent, right, and 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.000 a multitude of talent you just don't like like people 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.960 can say what they want about the Chiefs, right and oh, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.400 well no, the Chiefs, Well, Chiefs have three Hall of 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.120 Fame players on their team. Like if you and probably 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.960 we know Patrick Mahone is the greatest player walking the earth? 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:14.360 Right now? 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.680 Did you almost say it all time? I was, But 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.280 what I think you could say that now he's getting there. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.160 He's getting there. He's getting close to being the greatest 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.720 quarterback we've seen. But it's gonna be Tom Brady has 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:30.040 a seventh superow so. But but you know, Travis Kelsey 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:31.800 is the first battle of Hall of Famer. And then 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:33.840 when it's all said and done, Chris Jones goes to 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.800 the Hall of Fame. He's going to the Hall of Fame. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.920 He's going to end up in the Hall of Fame 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:43.200 as a deterior interior to fear interior defensive lineman. And 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.920 then you have Andy Reid. I mean they have and 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.480 they made those things work, but you're void of talent 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.880 in this league will not result in victories. They just won't. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.440 You have to have a talented roster. And while you 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.160 where you can kind of skimp a little bit, and 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:05.480 elsewhere is you have Tom Brady or you have Patrick Mahomes. Right, 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.880 you have an elite. You have the elite of the 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.440 elites on your roster. Now I don't think the Cowboys 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.800 have they they don't have the elite of the elites 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.160 on any position on this roster. But I mean Micah 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.080 is An is an elite player. Cee he is an 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.760 elite player. I think Dak is an above average, really 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.000 really really good player doesn't get the credit. But Zach 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.640 Martin is a guy who at his position for a 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.199 long time has been elite at what he does. And 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.560 the biggest thing for the Cowboys, because we've seen the 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:39.120 regular season wins, they've been there. They just can't figure 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:43.120 this thing out. And I was having a conversation with 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.559 Brian Broadis yesterday. He was on my podcast on the 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:52.120 Field with Jesse Ally on YouTube. And everybody has to 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.960 bear the brunt of the lack of success for the Cowboys, 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:01.160 Freaky Mike dan Quinn who's no longer here, Jerry and 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:07.680 Steven will and every player that goes up there in 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.679 that football field. It is a collective. Like when you 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.960 go back and you think about that Green Bay game, 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:19.520 that was bad across the board. Yeah, they looked, they 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.200 looked not ready for the moment. That's a head coaching 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:23.520 that that falls on the head coach. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:24.520 You know. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:29.640 Defensively, they looked like they didn't have answers as a coaching. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:34.440 But then on the players. CD was pouting in the 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:39.360 first quarter, Dak wasn't sharp, Michael wasn't there, There wasn't 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.079 That's a player. That's a player issue to have yourself 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.599 prepared to know what you're supposed to do offensively, defensively, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.320 and everybody has to hold that hold a piece of 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.440 that loss. And but you don't win in this league 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.800 without being able to say that we have some of 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.320 the most talented people on our football team. You just 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.079 I mean, look at the teams roundly that don't win. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.120 They don't have Pro Bowlers on their team. They don't 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:07.360 have first team All Pro or or second team All 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.800 Pro or you know, Pro bowlers in general. It's a 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.480 it's a good problem to have. It's just that I 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:19.880 think the Cowboys have potentially mismanaged their good problem. 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.560 All right, let's take our first break when we come back, 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.720 let's talk about I want to get your well, it's 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.000 a few things. One of the Pro Day that's out here. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:29.800 Did you do Pro Day? 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:31.000 Yeah? 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.720 You did. Let's talk about your Pro Day and then 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:39.320 your your expertise special teams. We get some new kickoff 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:44.040 rule that's kind of a very dramatic change. Like I like, 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.120 one thing I can say about the NFL is in 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.440 the last several years, they're not afraid to mix it 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.080 up and change rules. They're not like Baseball where it's 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:55.480 like this is what we do and this is how 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.920 we do it, like something like they're they're they're experimenting 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.160 with things. I want to get your thoughts on the 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.160 hip drop tackle. Now, I'm not really sure how I 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.360 feel about. 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Second segment brought 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.160 to you each and every day by blockchain dot Com. 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:04.720 Thank you Blockchain dot Com. And next week we have 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.240 a very special in studio guest that you will not 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.840 want to miss because you never know what will happen 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.960 or what will be said. When the Great Charles Hayley 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.800 joins the show. He's going to promote his uh Celebrity 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.800 Texas HoldEm tournament that he has every year. He's got 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.960 some major star power that comes out to that thing, 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:27.840 a lot of his former teammates and a lot of 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.480 areas celebrities and athletes and former athletes, and he's gonna 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.080 come on and talk about that. He's gonna join us 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.840 for about half the show. I think he's gonna come 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.520 in about about this time, about nine to twenty next week, 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.560 next Thursday, So you'll want to make sure that you 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:42.119 tune in for that. 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:43.560 I'll be behavior. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:46.880 I'll tell you what. You're not gonna want to miss 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:52.200 this because for those of you that are not around Charles. 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.119 For those of you that are not around Charles, Charles 0:18:55.160 --> 0:19:00.240 is a wild card. Charles will say any and everything 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.680 at any point at any time, in front of anyone, 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.720 So you never know what's gonna happen. So tune in 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.480 to see what may or may not happen. 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.520 Should I revisit our Charles and I interaction that we 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:15.560 had a couple of years ago in the elevator. 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:15.840 You can do you want? 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:16.719 Do you think he'll remember? 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.040 I don't think you If you're gonna revisit it, I 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.480 would revisit it today, and not why he's here, because 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.600 I would because I don't. I'm gonna probably be in 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.640 the middle of y'all somewhere, and I don't. I don't 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:29.760 want to get caught up in. 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:36.040 That listenes Charles nineties Charles might have kicked my butt, 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:38.720 might have kicked my butt, like for real. 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:42.520 For real. Oh, he don't have a chance nineties Charles. 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.240 There's probably not many men that he could not have 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:47.840 whooped up on. Yeah, yeah, he'd been a hell of 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.800 a UFC fighter back nineties Charles. But I'll tell you what, 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.919 he don't have a chance today. Twenty what is this? 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.959 Twenty twenty four? Twenty twenty four. Charles, for his age, 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:01.280 could handle some some folks too. Now you you're, you know, strapping, 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.560 young middle aged man that you are. I don't know 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:07.560 if he can handle up on you now, but you know, 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:08.760 but he's got that. He's got. 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:10.080 Charles is a good dude. 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:10.320 Man. 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.360 He's just he's just Charles's Charles. 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:14.320 That's all you can say. 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:15.200 It's all you can say. 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:16.400 He's He's. 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:21.240 But yeah, he's barefoot Charles. We'll just leave it at that, 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:21.680 So tune in. 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.880 Is he bringing his dog? If he brings his dog 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:24.640 and bringing my dog? 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:26.800 I don't think he brings the dogs up here anymore. 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.320 Chris stopped that. Chris, does he bring the dogs up here? 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.320 I have not seen the dogs in a while. Okay, 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:32.720 they used to come. But Jess, you can bring your 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:33.720 dog anytime you want. 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.480 Buddy, Okay, my dog is I have. My dog is 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.480 certified like as as emotional support dog. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:41.639 You should bring them up here sometimes. But he like 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.600