WEBVTT - WrestleMania 2023 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.800 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.640 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.800 Are you ready? Are you ready? Let's get it all. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:17.560 How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:20.480 We are here every day Monday through Friday. Now Pacific 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:25.200 three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, sixth eastern. Well, it's Thursday 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:29.200 on the show, and this is it for me. I'm 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.360 out of here tomorrow. Actually, you know what now they 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.040 think about it. I may be on the show tomorrow. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.520 I gotta see when my flight leaves. But anyway, I'm 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:42.440 heading to LA on Friday for WrestleMania weekend. I arrived 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:46.640 at about four forty five pm, so after the Supercard 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.440 of Honor show has already started. I'm gonna see if 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.279 I can get there, see if I can get out 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:56.000 there and attend that show. But if not, I will 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.480 be going to NXT Takeover on Saturday, that is confirmed. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.560 Going to WrestleMania Night one the same day, So I 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:08.720 think I'll be watching approximately i'd say about eight hours 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.280 of WE on Saturday, and then I'll be heading out 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.800 Sunday for Night two of WrestleMania, then I head back. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.280 I will not be staying for the Raw after WrestleMania. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.080 And you know it's funny Raw after wrestlemaniaus to be 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.959 a really big show and then it become a period 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.480 where it really wasn't that big a show. And I 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.080 actually have a feeling that this year's Raw after WrestleMania 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.520 is going to be a pretty newsworthy show. But I'm 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.080 not going to be around for it, but I will 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.840 be watching it from home and we'll review everything here 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:43.280 as always. But WWE finally announced the full cards for 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.840 both nights of WrestleMania, and so we know what the 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.680 what the matches are. We still know the main event 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.600 of Night one obviously, the main event of Night two 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.680 is Roman Rains versus Cody Rhodes. Well, we'll give you 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.960 the full lineup for the shows. Update on Don Callis, 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:03.280 who was pretty he's seriously injured. He's fine, but it 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.200 was a pretty serious injury that he suffered at the 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.280 Dynamite show last time. Of course, a Dynamite report as well, 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:14.360 aw All Access debuted. We'll talk about that show and 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.240 a lot of other news as well. There's a lot 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.200 to get into here. Today. Hopefully we can get through 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.000 all of it, So stick around, everybody. Back in a 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:46.480 moment with more Wrestling Observer Live bragging the show. Bryan 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.480 Alberre is here Wrestling Observer Live like someber bb also 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:55.040 Wrestling Observer dot com, even though he is a despicable, horrible, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:01.200 terrible moose trader when it was our best to. Don 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:05.560 Callis was injured last night on the a W Show. 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:10.400 He was doing a segment backstage with the Blackpool Combat 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:15.120 Club and he tried to get a handshake from John 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.639 Moxley and Moxley clabbered him and in taking the bump, 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.520 Don was unaware that there was a lighting rig right 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.240 behind him and he went head first into a lighting 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:32.200 rig and he got gashed open. It was described to 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.920 me as looking like he was hit with a hatchet. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:41.120 He had a cut from here to about here, straight down. Allegedly, 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.000 his doctor told him it was so deep you could 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.440 see his skull bleeding everywhere. They took him to the 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:53.680 hospital and he was there until three am. And he 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.120 wasn't there till three am because you know they were 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.120 checking him. I mean they checked him for concussion everything. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.600 He didn't have a concussion, but he was till three 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.640 am because it took them that long to put his 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:07.200 head back together. Are you laughing over there, Mike, No, 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:11.320 I'm cringing honestly. And he's got that big fat bald 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.800 head of his two Oh my god, the staples and 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.719 the and the stitches. Although I got to be honest, 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.960 he can only help his looks. Well, he's he's back 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.279 home apparently. I guess he's all right. Hopefully he'll be 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.760 back on TV soon. And guy, I don't know how 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.400 he can get a concussion. I mean, really, when you longed, 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.280 Oh my god, say I heard about it because I 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.640 watched everything on the West Coast and I heard, you know, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.760 did don really get hurt? It's the first thing I heard. 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.320 And then I got a text from somebody there and 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.279 it was like, man, this dude got hurt. He gashed 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.520 himself open. So I knew it happened, but I didn't 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.600 know any of the circumstances. For all, I knew he 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.600 might have been wandering around backstage and banged into a 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.000 lighting lighting rig. So I'm watching it on TV and 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:58.120 Mox goes to shake his hand and dude, he gets 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.600 walloped and you don't even see him hitting the thing. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.120 You just see him fall off screen, but then the 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.320 sound that you hear off screen, and then they cut 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.520 back to him and he's like he's on his stomach 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.599 and he's like holding his head, and then you know, 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:16.400 this guy's a pro. So he's alive obviously, but you know, 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.120 as soon as he recovers, at least to a degree, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.839 he immediately turns and just looks straight up towards the ceiling. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.720 So you just see all this blood pouring down his face. Hey, 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.000 if you're still breathing, you're still working. When we were 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.600 when we were kids doing the White WWF, we filmed everything, 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.960 and especially we're gonna do something crazy, was like, make 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.920 sure you get it on film. Like, if I'm gonna 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:37.880 get killed doing this, at least make sure you get 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.840 it on film. Yes, that's what happened here, all right. 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.000 We got both Knights of WrestleMania the lineup so far, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.960 and I know some people have said, ah, did it 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.279 take so long to tell me what's on both Knights? Listen, 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.200 let's put it this way. It would have been nice 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.840 if we would have known in advance. But if you've 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.480 looked at the ticket sales for WrestleMania with the exception 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.200 of like three hundred people. I mean, the both Knights 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.120 have the exact same number of tickets out. It's like 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.520 there's a very small number of people who are going 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.760 to one night or the other. Like if you're going 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.560 to WrestleMania, you're getting a ticket for both shows. That's 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.400 what the numbers show us. And so in that case, 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.920 it's like you knew the Roman Rains. We all knew 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.200 the Roman Rains match was the headlining night too, and 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.200 we knew a couple of others. But now here's what 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.559 we know for sure. Night one is Austin Theory versus 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.839 John Cena in the opener. We don't officially know what 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.040 the main event is, and for all I know, they 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:38.440 may decide the day of the show. But it's I mean, 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.080 you've got both the Rea Ripley Charlotte Flair match and 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.920 the USOS against Kevin and Sammy both on Night one, 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.680 and as I've said before, I think that you should 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.719 end with Kevin Owens and sam Yusane. It's the bigger match. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:56.720 It's been built up far longer. It's it's it's a 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:01.520 far bigger draw than Rea Ripley Charlotte Flair. That's nothing 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.520 against them. I think if you asked them, you know, 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.599 I'm sure they'd say they want to go on last. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.719 But I don't think they're gonna tell you that the 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:13.000 Sammy and Kevin Owens and usso's and Bloodline story and 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.800 not that big a deal. It's a big one. We 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.960 also have Becky Leda and Trish versus Bailey, Dakota and 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:25.760 Eo seth Rawlins versus Logan, Paul ray Masterio versus Dominic Braun, Ricochet, Street, Prophets, 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.000 Gable and Notice, and the Viking Raiders four way a 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:34.320 Russell Mania Showcase match. So that is Night one, Night 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:39.400 two as Roman and Cody Bianca versus Osca Gunther against 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:43.120 Drew mcnire and Shamus in a triple threat Edge versus 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:48.400 Finnbalor in Brood versus the Demon. I would presume rock 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.960 Lessner and Omas and the Women's Showcase with Live and 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:56.000 Raquel Naddi and Shotzi rond Rousing and Shana Ronda with 0:07:56.000 --> 0:08:00.400 her broken arm, and Sonia and Chelsea Green. So that's 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:05.760 the two nights of Mania. Well, you know they treat 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.080 it like concerts now, you know, Bruce Springsteen is coming 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.520 to year Town for three nights, and he's got so 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.560 many songs and such a catalog. You're not going to 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.720 get the same stuff each night. You may get one 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.320 song or a couple of songs for both nights, but 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.600 you know that that's how it goes. And looking at 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:27.400 this night too much stronger, I think overall, on paper, 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.200 at least to me, it is. But I echo your sentiments, 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.640 and I think we're all in the majority on this. 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.319 I think most of wrestling, you know, fans are in 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.000 the majority on the fact that how do you not 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.360 close with Kevin and Sammy against the USOS again unless 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.760 you're going to do something that's going to impact the 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.880 next night later, you know, after the main event or 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.040 at some other point, which I think is ridiculous at 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.000 this point, just let it go to me, that's got 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.040 to close the show. It's not the way that. But listen, everybody, 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.280 and I've had a few people say, well, you know, 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.280 the Royal Rumble winner is guaranteed the main event of WrestleMania. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.679 Do they say that or do they say the winner 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.920 of the Royal Rumble is guaranteed a title match at WrestleMania, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.400 Because that's what it should be, because the other way 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:15.240 to look at this is if it's me, if I'm 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.880 if I'm Rea Ripley or Charlotte. I mean, I don't know. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.040 If you really got a big ego, you want to 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.640 you want to finish or whatever, close the show. But 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.360 but to me, it's like, you know that the fans 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:32.760 are going to unleash an extraordinary amount of energy, and 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.760 that Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane versus USO's match, you 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.760 want to follow that? Yeah, I mean yeah, I guess 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.319 they can put on like some something with Snoop and 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.319 the Miss or whatever, because 're gonna do something with 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.840 Snoop and the Miz. You can do a buffer or 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.600 whatever Men's tag. I mean, you know, you can do 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.520 this bring him down thing and everything like that. But 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.080 I would not want that match to go on earlier 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.600 and then have to main event the show because you 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.079 just know you're not going to get that reaction. And 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.840 that's nothing against them, It's just it's the nature of 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:07.240 the WWE audience. I've seen it a thousand times at WrestleMania. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.319 I've seen, you know, a match go on last that 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.800 you know doesn't get the crowded reaction. If something that 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.160 went on earlier, and when it's over, everyone says, you know, 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.000 this match should have closed the show, and most of 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.000 the time it's like, well, you probably knew that going 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.760 in that there's always the argument, you know, I think 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.640 I've seen it, you know, a few times. It doesn't matter. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:30.760 At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. But 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.920 I think that the strongest match the match to the 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.280 fans are gonna be most passionate about, the match of 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.719 the fans are the most interested in. I think that 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.360 match should gone last. And it's not like it's not 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.679 a title match. It is for the tag team titles. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.760 So and looking on this, you know they're already saying 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.120 they're going to open with Sena in theory, So to me, 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.839 it's like, okay, open with that, have the women's six 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.280 you know, the six woman comes next, Ray and Dominic, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.680 the men's tag in there, then Seth and Low, then 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.400 rein Charlotte, and then have the USOS and the tag 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.000 matches the main To me, that's very simple to lay out. 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.240 That's my fantasy booking idea for Night one. We'll see 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.600 what happens, but you know, it seems logical. So a 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.720 lot happened last night. We'll do the Dynamite report later, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:22.400 but the official debut of aw All Access took place 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.840 last night, and in general, I thought it was a 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.120 really good show. By one complaint, and it's not even 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.960 really I hate to say it's complaint because everybody knew 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.640 this going in. It should have been patently obvious. They 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:41.760 can't talk about anything involving CM punk. They can't even 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:47.720 say that the Young Bucks were suspended. Literally, if you have, 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.840 if somehow you don't know what happened here, you turn 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.120 on the show and they show the thing where Tony 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.520 Kahn said because of you know, I regret I can't 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.880 remember what he said, but essentially he said, you know, 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.560 we have to strip them of the titles, and then 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.520 they're just coming back and like, if you don't know 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:12.640 what happened, it's like, well, what happened? I mean, did 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.240 they fail a drug test? Like, you don't know anything, 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.480 and they can't talk about it. So, you know, literally 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.360 all we got out of Matt was I don't ever 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.600 want to talk about it. And then it's just the 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.480 story of their attempted return, trying to get back into 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.920 the ring, trying to fight their way back to ring 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.520 shape and it's just a giant mystery. Back at the 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:40.600 moment with more Observer Live ring the show. Bran elre 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:45.719 is here Wrestling Observer Live, miembervib Elsom Wrestling Observer dot Com. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.160 Regarding our debate yesterday, Mike, there really was not a 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.920 lot of drama here on the show, but they did 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.160 address the Brig Baker thunder Rosa thing, which I thought 0:12:56.280 --> 0:13:02.720 was interesting because you know, obviously thunder Rose as fans 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.800 and they don't like Britt Baker, and obviously Britt Baker 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.720 has fans as well. But I couldn't help but notice 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:14.160 that with all of the fan drama regarding Britt Baker, 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:19.360 it was always directed entirely at Britt Baker. But if 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.560 you watched the show, every woman on this show was 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:27.480 upset with thunder Rosa. Soreya was upset with thunder Rosa. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:32.240 Britt Baker was upset with thunder Rosa. Jamie Hayter was 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.320 upset with thunder Rosa. Tony Storm was upset. They were 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:40.200 all saying the exact same thing, and the point of 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:45.080 it wasn't really to bury thunder Rosa. I mean, they 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.840 were burying her and everything like that, but the the 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:52.800 story behind the show was more about these women are 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:58.560 all working hard, they're working injured, they're they're trying to 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.400 make this division something and thus they were upset that 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:06.000 thunder Rosa was not coming to work in their words. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.840 And they also had the scene where you know, Britt 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.120 Baker's getting shot up with whatever their courts own or whatever. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.960 They're shooting her up because you know, she has a 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.240 back injury and she's had a back injury for a 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.360 long time. She wrestled as champion for like four months 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.200 with a broken wrist, and so yeah, if you want 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.640 to get angry at Britt Baker, you can, or you know, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.200 he can look at what Britt Baker was dealing with 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.320 and what she was thinking about when you know thunder 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.960 Rosa in her words is like I'm not coming to work, 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.800 but I'm flying all over the country doing seminars in etc. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.240 So that's what they addressed on the show, and really 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:45.080 it was only for like maybe a minute, and you 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.800 know the rest of it was, you know, everyone's dealing 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.360 with this or that. Adam Cole. Really the show, it 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.800 seems to me, is a vehicle to get over the 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.560 comeback of Adam Cole. Because that was the whole point 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.800 of this episode. He's been gone. They acknowledged that he 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.800 was out with two concussions in three weeks, although they 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.160 didn't acknowledge a lot of other stuff, like, you know, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.960 Kyle O'Reilly is mysteriously gone. He had a mysterious surgery. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.720 We don't know anything about it, We don't anything on 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.760 his status. We just know what happened. But they tell 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.080 us everything about Adam Cole and all the things he's 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.520 trying to do to return. At the big climax of 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.760 the show is he really wants to come back for 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.800 full gear and he goes to the doctor and the 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.600 doctor basically tells him I ain't gonna happen, brother, And 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.080 so now he has to get in the car and 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.920 you know, deal with the fact that maybe I can 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.880 come back some day, maybe I can't. I really want 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.120 to come back now, but realistically, if I come back now, 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:47.040 I may start over at day one. I may never 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.360 be able to wrestle again. And so that's kind of 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.360 your cliffhanger going to the second episode, although they spoiled 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.920 it by previewing the next episode, and he's back, but 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.560 I thought overall it was it was a very good show, 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.240 especially if you know what's happened. Like if you if 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:02.760 you don't know what's happening, you review the show and 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.560 you hate it because you don't know what's happening. Well, 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.840 there's lots of they didn't tell you, But if you 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.840 don't know what's happening, it was a good show. I 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:11.720 only saw little parts of it, so I don't want 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.480 to judge it in its entirety. But I just going 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.160 back to the women, you know. I know you were 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.080 talking about a lot of the heat that Britt Baker 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:26.360 was taking online, and I wonder if part of that 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.720 is the fact that she gets pushed back as a 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.640 character and has gotten especially during that time too, was 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.040 getting pushed back as a character that she sucks all 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.720 the air out of the room, and a lot of 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.040 it not her fault. They can't get anybody over but her, 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.840 that sort of thing. I think maybe that mixes into 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.480 it somewhat too, with what you're remembering, but also too, 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:53.360 you got to remember a lot of people really didn't 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.080 know what was going on and didn't know how much 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.720 back they're finding it out now, you know, And why 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.320 is the women's division MESSI for so long I mean, 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.360 obviously the people listening to this show, you know, we're 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.840 generally aware of it, but I don't know how many 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.439 fans really know because unless they were listening to thunder 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.080 Rosa on Busted Open, which I mean, what's the reach 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.400 of Sirius XM. You know, I love it, I love us, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.760 but you know, you know what was the reach of 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.800 that to the general aw fan or to the person 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.560 even on Twitter? You know what I mean? So I 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.719 think there was so much during that time going on 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:34.239 with those women and backfighting and was injuries and all 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.720 that sort of stuff. A lot of people were reacting 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.600 to what they thought they knew but actually had no idea. 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.240 And I think brit it's like the starting quarterback on 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.520 a team for right now until they established more stars. 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:50.160 Like anything that happens in that women's division, good or bad, 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.000 it's going to be on Britt Baker. Like you know, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:57.280 she is the lightning rod for everything, and she's got big, 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.680 strong shoulders. I was going to say a strong back, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.240 but unfortunately she doesn't of all the injuries she has 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.480 had since she started. Now we find out about her 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.760 back and it's like, you know, it's too bad, but 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.040 you know, she is really the face of that division. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.960 To an interview, she said, unfortunately, my back is getting 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:16.840 worse now. It's a neck and a back problem. It's manageable. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.600 I'm tough. I will always find ways to work. My 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.679 championship rain was with a broken wrist. I'll figure that 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.840 out one way or the other. You've got to work 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.960 around it. Sometimes, maybe trick your body and think an 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.600 ad doesn't really hurt that bad. Stand by everything I said, 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.960 because I still have the same questions. You're traveling all 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.080 over the place for the projects where you're not coming 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:36.879 to work when you are the champion. This is regarding 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:41.560 thunder Rosa. This was an interview that she gave recently 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.320 to Slam Wrestling. I want to know why. I'm just 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.720 asking the question because I'm very passionate, very protective of aw. 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.040 Anybody can call me a bully, but I stand by that, 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.600 and that question still has not been answered to this day. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.400 People like Adam Cole would have killed to be able 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.280 to come back to work. But he can't travel. It's 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.760 not like he was going in and doing a signing 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.480 or a convention or a seminar. They're not coming to work, 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.800 and he wasn't even able to leave the house. You know. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.639 One of the big things on the show was, you know, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.560 Adam Cole wanted to come back, and she was very 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.560 protective and would not let him come back. But what 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.400 did not happen was nobody was very protective of Britt 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:22.960 Baker because I'm broken wrist, dude, that you're working on. 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:28.320 She's a dentist. Somebody should have said, bro, don't do 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.080 anything until your wrist is heal. You want a broken wrist, like, 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.119 deal with a broken wrist for the rest of your 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.280 life as a dental hygienist. Get the earlier arthritista. Yeah, 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.720 I mean, man, let that thing heal. Dude. Hey, look 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.000 that's and that's actually a great point here too, because 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:46.720 you know, I don't know if my kid has got 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:48.760 eyeballs on wrestling, but I know there's a lot of 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.920 people who listen and watch this stuff. They want to 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.359 get into the business. And you hear it over and 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.679 over again where you know, make sure you go to school, 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.440 make sure you got something to fall back on. This 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.560 is a great example. Woman is thirty one years old, 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.800 and to be honest, look, if she wants to have 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:06.760 a family, you know you want to be able to 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.280 like carry your kid to term, you know, with a 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:11.600 good back and be able to bend over and play 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.879 with them. It goes for both members of that family. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.000 And she's only thirty one years old and she's got 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:20.560 her career outside of this, and Casey needs it. And 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.679 this is a great, one of the highest shining examples 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.680 of make sure you got something to fall back on 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.800 as you get into the wrestling business. Not everybody is 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:31.280 Nick Wayne or Billy Starks, but you know what, they're 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:35.159 going to school too, well, they're finishing high school. I 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.200 don't know what's gonna happen look at yeah, but they're 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.439 being forced to, you know, take this stuff seriously and 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.760 make sure you have something to fall back on and 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.080 make sure you have a direction, you know, because again, 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.960 they're very lucky for their positions that they're in. Not 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.720 everybody's going to be that lucky, but everybody will look 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:52.960 at them as the example of you know, I can 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.000 do that, because I'm sure there's a fifteen or sixteen 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.840 year old kid right now going I want to be 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:58.960 in this business, you know, and I know I can 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:00.560 get in, I can do this, I can do that. 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.000 But you know what, don't forget about what these old 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.840 people say, and these old wrestlers say about making sure 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:09.240 you got some them. April fifth Dynamite as the Guns 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:13.160 and FTR titled Versus Career, Jamie Hayter versus Jo Ricky Starts, 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:17.720 Juice Robinson, Blackpool Combat Club will speak with the newly 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:23.800 turned Brian Danielson and m j F. Day. I'm sure 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:29.119 that's gonna go well that guy And speaking of Tony, 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.800 Kahn did an interview and he said he considered the 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.920 idea that's with the La Times. He considered the idea 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:40.480 of going baby face with MJF, but he said ultimately 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.080 he feels AW is at its best when MGF is 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.639 at his worst. He said, I listen to the fans 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.000 when the reactions were so massive. I do, at least 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.879 think about making him a good guy. But MJF is 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:52.679 the world's best young pro rustler, one of the best 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:54.920 wrestling heels of any age I've ever seen. I think 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.120 its ability to antagonize the other wrestlers in the crowd 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.639 is unparalleled. AW is at his strongest when MGM is 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:02.879 at his worst as a villain. Now, I would argue 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:07.280