Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: We are here every day Monday through Friday. Now Pacific
Speaker 1: three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, sixth eastern. Well, it's Thursday
Speaker 1: on the show, and this is it for me. I'm
Speaker 1: out of here tomorrow. Actually, you know what now they
Speaker 1: think about it. I may be on the show tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I gotta see when my flight leaves. But anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: heading to LA on Friday for WrestleMania weekend. I arrived
Speaker 1: at about four forty five pm, so after the Supercard
Speaker 1: of Honor show has already started. I'm gonna see if
Speaker 1: I can get there, see if I can get out
Speaker 1: there and attend that show. But if not, I will
Speaker 1: be going to NXT Takeover on Saturday, that is confirmed.
Speaker 1: Going to WrestleMania Night one the same day, So I
Speaker 1: think I'll be watching approximately i'd say about eight hours
Speaker 1: of WE on Saturday, and then I'll be heading out
Speaker 1: Sunday for Night two of WrestleMania, then I head back.
Speaker 1: I will not be staying for the Raw after WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: And you know it's funny Raw after wrestlemaniaus to be
Speaker 1: a really big show and then it become a period
Speaker 1: where it really wasn't that big a show. And I
Speaker 1: actually have a feeling that this year's Raw after WrestleMania
Speaker 1: is going to be a pretty newsworthy show. But I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be around for it, but I will
Speaker 1: be watching it from home and we'll review everything here
Speaker 1: as always. But WWE finally announced the full cards for
Speaker 1: both nights of WrestleMania, and so we know what the
Speaker 1: what the matches are. We still know the main event
Speaker 1: of Night one obviously, the main event of Night two
Speaker 1: is Roman Rains versus Cody Rhodes. Well, we'll give you
Speaker 1: the full lineup for the shows. Update on Don Callis,
Speaker 1: who was pretty he's seriously injured. He's fine, but it
Speaker 1: was a pretty serious injury that he suffered at the
Speaker 1: Dynamite show last time. Of course, a Dynamite report as well,
Speaker 1: aw All Access debuted. We'll talk about that show and
Speaker 1: a lot of other news as well. There's a lot
Speaker 1: to get into here. Today. Hopefully we can get through
Speaker 1: all of it, So stick around, everybody. Back in a
Speaker 1: moment with more Wrestling Observer Live bragging the show. Bryan
Speaker 1: Alberre is here Wrestling Observer Live like someber bb also
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer dot com, even though he is a despicable, horrible,
Speaker 1: terrible moose trader when it was our best to. Don
Speaker 1: Callis was injured last night on the a W Show.
Speaker 1: He was doing a segment backstage with the Blackpool Combat
Speaker 1: Club and he tried to get a handshake from John
Speaker 1: Moxley and Moxley clabbered him and in taking the bump,
Speaker 1: Don was unaware that there was a lighting rig right
Speaker 1: behind him and he went head first into a lighting
Speaker 1: rig and he got gashed open. It was described to
Speaker 1: me as looking like he was hit with a hatchet.
Speaker 1: He had a cut from here to about here, straight down. Allegedly,
Speaker 1: his doctor told him it was so deep you could
Speaker 1: see his skull bleeding everywhere. They took him to the
Speaker 1: hospital and he was there until three am. And he
Speaker 1: wasn't there till three am because you know they were
Speaker 1: checking him. I mean they checked him for concussion everything.
Speaker 1: He didn't have a concussion, but he was till three
Speaker 1: am because it took them that long to put his
Speaker 1: head back together. Are you laughing over there, Mike, No,
Speaker 1: I'm cringing honestly. And he's got that big fat bald
Speaker 1: head of his two Oh my god, the staples and
Speaker 1: the and the stitches. Although I got to be honest,
Speaker 1: he can only help his looks. Well, he's he's back
Speaker 1: home apparently. I guess he's all right. Hopefully he'll be
Speaker 1: back on TV soon. And guy, I don't know how
Speaker 1: he can get a concussion. I mean, really, when you longed,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, say I heard about it because I
Speaker 1: watched everything on the West Coast and I heard, you know,
Speaker 1: did don really get hurt? It's the first thing I heard.
Speaker 1: And then I got a text from somebody there and
Speaker 1: it was like, man, this dude got hurt. He gashed
Speaker 1: himself open. So I knew it happened, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know any of the circumstances. For all, I knew he
Speaker 1: might have been wandering around backstage and banged into a
Speaker 1: lighting lighting rig. So I'm watching it on TV and
Speaker 1: Mox goes to shake his hand and dude, he gets
Speaker 1: walloped and you don't even see him hitting the thing.
Speaker 1: You just see him fall off screen, but then the
Speaker 1: sound that you hear off screen, and then they cut
Speaker 1: back to him and he's like he's on his stomach
Speaker 1: and he's like holding his head, and then you know,
Speaker 1: this guy's a pro. So he's alive obviously, but you know,
Speaker 1: as soon as he recovers, at least to a degree,
Speaker 1: he immediately turns and just looks straight up towards the ceiling.
Speaker 1: So you just see all this blood pouring down his face. Hey,
Speaker 1: if you're still breathing, you're still working. When we were
Speaker 1: when we were kids doing the White WWF, we filmed everything,
Speaker 1: and especially we're gonna do something crazy, was like, make
Speaker 1: sure you get it on film. Like, if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get killed doing this, at least make sure you get
Speaker 1: it on film. Yes, that's what happened here, all right.
Speaker 1: We got both Knights of WrestleMania the lineup so far,
Speaker 1: and I know some people have said, ah, did it
Speaker 1: take so long to tell me what's on both Knights? Listen,
Speaker 1: let's put it this way. It would have been nice
Speaker 1: if we would have known in advance. But if you've
Speaker 1: looked at the ticket sales for WrestleMania with the exception
Speaker 1: of like three hundred people. I mean, the both Knights
Speaker 1: have the exact same number of tickets out. It's like
Speaker 1: there's a very small number of people who are going
Speaker 1: to one night or the other. Like if you're going
Speaker 1: to WrestleMania, you're getting a ticket for both shows. That's
Speaker 1: what the numbers show us. And so in that case,
Speaker 1: it's like you knew the Roman Rains. We all knew
Speaker 1: the Roman Rains match was the headlining night too, and
Speaker 1: we knew a couple of others. But now here's what
Speaker 1: we know for sure. Night one is Austin Theory versus
Speaker 1: John Cena in the opener. We don't officially know what
Speaker 1: the main event is, and for all I know, they
Speaker 1: may decide the day of the show. But it's I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got both the Rea Ripley Charlotte Flair match and
Speaker 1: the USOS against Kevin and Sammy both on Night one,
Speaker 1: and as I've said before, I think that you should
Speaker 1: end with Kevin Owens and sam Yusane. It's the bigger match.
Speaker 1: It's been built up far longer. It's it's it's a
Speaker 1: far bigger draw than Rea Ripley Charlotte Flair. That's nothing
Speaker 1: against them. I think if you asked them, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'd say they want to go on last.
Speaker 1: But I don't think they're gonna tell you that the
Speaker 1: Sammy and Kevin Owens and usso's and Bloodline story and
Speaker 1: not that big a deal. It's a big one. We
Speaker 1: also have Becky Leda and Trish versus Bailey, Dakota and
Speaker 1: Eo seth Rawlins versus Logan, Paul ray Masterio versus Dominic Braun, Ricochet, Street, Prophets,
Speaker 1: Gable and Notice, and the Viking Raiders four way a
Speaker 1: Russell Mania Showcase match. So that is Night one, Night
Speaker 1: two as Roman and Cody Bianca versus Osca Gunther against
Speaker 1: Drew mcnire and Shamus in a triple threat Edge versus
Speaker 1: Finnbalor in Brood versus the Demon. I would presume rock
Speaker 1: Lessner and Omas and the Women's Showcase with Live and
Speaker 1: Raquel Naddi and Shotzi rond Rousing and Shana Ronda with
Speaker 1: her broken arm, and Sonia and Chelsea Green. So that's
Speaker 1: the two nights of Mania. Well, you know they treat
Speaker 1: it like concerts now, you know, Bruce Springsteen is coming
Speaker 1: to year Town for three nights, and he's got so
Speaker 1: many songs and such a catalog. You're not going to
Speaker 1: get the same stuff each night. You may get one
Speaker 1: song or a couple of songs for both nights, but
Speaker 1: you know that that's how it goes. And looking at
Speaker 1: this night too much stronger, I think overall, on paper,
Speaker 1: at least to me, it is. But I echo your sentiments,
Speaker 1: and I think we're all in the majority on this.
Speaker 1: I think most of wrestling, you know, fans are in
Speaker 1: the majority on the fact that how do you not
Speaker 1: close with Kevin and Sammy against the USOS again unless
Speaker 1: you're going to do something that's going to impact the
Speaker 1: next night later, you know, after the main event or
Speaker 1: at some other point, which I think is ridiculous at
Speaker 1: this point, just let it go to me, that's got
Speaker 1: to close the show. It's not the way that. But listen, everybody,
Speaker 1: and I've had a few people say, well, you know,
Speaker 1: the Royal Rumble winner is guaranteed the main event of WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: Do they say that or do they say the winner
Speaker 1: of the Royal Rumble is guaranteed a title match at WrestleMania,
Speaker 1: Because that's what it should be, because the other way
Speaker 1: to look at this is if it's me, if I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm Rea Ripley or Charlotte. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you really got a big ego, you want to
Speaker 1: you want to finish or whatever, close the show. But
Speaker 1: but to me, it's like, you know that the fans
Speaker 1: are going to unleash an extraordinary amount of energy, and
Speaker 1: that Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane versus USO's match, you
Speaker 1: want to follow that? Yeah, I mean yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: they can put on like some something with Snoop and
Speaker 1: the Miss or whatever, because 're gonna do something with
Speaker 1: Snoop and the Miz. You can do a buffer or
Speaker 1: whatever Men's tag. I mean, you know, you can do
Speaker 1: this bring him down thing and everything like that. But
Speaker 1: I would not want that match to go on earlier
Speaker 1: and then have to main event the show because you
Speaker 1: just know you're not going to get that reaction. And
Speaker 1: that's nothing against them, It's just it's the nature of
Speaker 1: the WWE audience. I've seen it a thousand times at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: I've seen, you know, a match go on last that
Speaker 1: you know doesn't get the crowded reaction. If something that
Speaker 1: went on earlier, and when it's over, everyone says, you know,
Speaker 1: this match should have closed the show, and most of
Speaker 1: the time it's like, well, you probably knew that going
Speaker 1: in that there's always the argument, you know, I think
Speaker 1: I've seen it, you know, a few times. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. But
Speaker 1: I think that the strongest match the match to the
Speaker 1: fans are gonna be most passionate about, the match of
Speaker 1: the fans are the most interested in. I think that
Speaker 1: match should gone last. And it's not like it's not
Speaker 1: a title match. It is for the tag team titles.
Speaker 1: So and looking on this, you know they're already saying
Speaker 1: they're going to open with Sena in theory, So to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, open with that, have the women's six
Speaker 1: you know, the six woman comes next, Ray and Dominic,
Speaker 1: the men's tag in there, then Seth and Low, then
Speaker 1: rein Charlotte, and then have the USOS and the tag
Speaker 1: matches the main To me, that's very simple to lay out.
Speaker 1: That's my fantasy booking idea for Night one. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens, but you know, it seems logical. So a
Speaker 1: lot happened last night. We'll do the Dynamite report later,
Speaker 1: but the official debut of aw All Access took place
Speaker 1: last night, and in general, I thought it was a
Speaker 1: really good show. By one complaint, and it's not even
Speaker 1: really I hate to say it's complaint because everybody knew
Speaker 1: this going in. It should have been patently obvious. They
Speaker 1: can't talk about anything involving CM punk. They can't even
Speaker 1: say that the Young Bucks were suspended. Literally, if you have,
Speaker 1: if somehow you don't know what happened here, you turn
Speaker 1: on the show and they show the thing where Tony
Speaker 1: Kahn said because of you know, I regret I can't
Speaker 1: remember what he said, but essentially he said, you know,
Speaker 1: we have to strip them of the titles, and then
Speaker 1: they're just coming back and like, if you don't know
Speaker 1: what happened, it's like, well, what happened? I mean, did
Speaker 1: they fail a drug test? Like, you don't know anything,
Speaker 1: and they can't talk about it. So, you know, literally
Speaker 1: all we got out of Matt was I don't ever
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. And then it's just the
Speaker 1: story of their attempted return, trying to get back into
Speaker 1: the ring, trying to fight their way back to ring
Speaker 1: shape and it's just a giant mystery. Back at the
Speaker 1: moment with more Observer Live ring the show. Bran elre
Speaker 1: is here Wrestling Observer Live, miembervib Elsom Wrestling Observer dot Com.
Speaker 1: Regarding our debate yesterday, Mike, there really was not a
Speaker 1: lot of drama here on the show, but they did
Speaker 1: address the Brig Baker thunder Rosa thing, which I thought
Speaker 1: was interesting because you know, obviously thunder Rose as fans
Speaker 1: and they don't like Britt Baker, and obviously Britt Baker
Speaker 1: has fans as well. But I couldn't help but notice
Speaker 1: that with all of the fan drama regarding Britt Baker,
Speaker 1: it was always directed entirely at Britt Baker. But if
Speaker 1: you watched the show, every woman on this show was
Speaker 1: upset with thunder Rosa. Soreya was upset with thunder Rosa.
Speaker 1: Britt Baker was upset with thunder Rosa. Jamie Hayter was
Speaker 1: upset with thunder Rosa. Tony Storm was upset. They were
Speaker 1: all saying the exact same thing, and the point of
Speaker 1: it wasn't really to bury thunder Rosa. I mean, they
Speaker 1: were burying her and everything like that, but the the
Speaker 1: story behind the show was more about these women are
Speaker 1: all working hard, they're working injured, they're they're trying to
Speaker 1: make this division something and thus they were upset that
Speaker 1: thunder Rosa was not coming to work in their words.
Speaker 1: And they also had the scene where you know, Britt
Speaker 1: Baker's getting shot up with whatever their courts own or whatever.
Speaker 1: They're shooting her up because you know, she has a
Speaker 1: back injury and she's had a back injury for a
Speaker 1: long time. She wrestled as champion for like four months
Speaker 1: with a broken wrist, and so yeah, if you want
Speaker 1: to get angry at Britt Baker, you can, or you know,
Speaker 1: he can look at what Britt Baker was dealing with
Speaker 1: and what she was thinking about when you know thunder
Speaker 1: Rosa in her words is like I'm not coming to work,
Speaker 1: but I'm flying all over the country doing seminars in etc.
Speaker 1: So that's what they addressed on the show, and really
Speaker 1: it was only for like maybe a minute, and you
Speaker 1: know the rest of it was, you know, everyone's dealing
Speaker 1: with this or that. Adam Cole. Really the show, it
Speaker 1: seems to me, is a vehicle to get over the
Speaker 1: comeback of Adam Cole. Because that was the whole point
Speaker 1: of this episode. He's been gone. They acknowledged that he
Speaker 1: was out with two concussions in three weeks, although they
Speaker 1: didn't acknowledge a lot of other stuff, like, you know,
Speaker 1: Kyle O'Reilly is mysteriously gone. He had a mysterious surgery.
Speaker 1: We don't know anything about it, We don't anything on
Speaker 1: his status. We just know what happened. But they tell
Speaker 1: us everything about Adam Cole and all the things he's
Speaker 1: trying to do to return. At the big climax of
Speaker 1: the show is he really wants to come back for
Speaker 1: full gear and he goes to the doctor and the
Speaker 1: doctor basically tells him I ain't gonna happen, brother, And
Speaker 1: so now he has to get in the car and
Speaker 1: you know, deal with the fact that maybe I can
Speaker 1: come back some day, maybe I can't. I really want
Speaker 1: to come back now, but realistically, if I come back now,
Speaker 1: I may start over at day one. I may never
Speaker 1: be able to wrestle again. And so that's kind of
Speaker 1: your cliffhanger going to the second episode, although they spoiled
Speaker 1: it by previewing the next episode, and he's back, but
Speaker 1: I thought overall it was it was a very good show,
Speaker 1: especially if you know what's happened. Like if you if
Speaker 1: you don't know what's happening, you review the show and
Speaker 1: you hate it because you don't know what's happening. Well,
Speaker 1: there's lots of they didn't tell you, But if you
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening, it was a good show. I
Speaker 1: only saw little parts of it, so I don't want
Speaker 1: to judge it in its entirety. But I just going
Speaker 1: back to the women, you know. I know you were
Speaker 1: talking about a lot of the heat that Britt Baker
Speaker 1: was taking online, and I wonder if part of that
Speaker 1: is the fact that she gets pushed back as a
Speaker 1: character and has gotten especially during that time too, was
Speaker 1: getting pushed back as a character that she sucks all
Speaker 1: the air out of the room, and a lot of
Speaker 1: it not her fault. They can't get anybody over but her,
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. I think maybe that mixes into
Speaker 1: it somewhat too, with what you're remembering, but also too,
Speaker 1: you got to remember a lot of people really didn't
Speaker 1: know what was going on and didn't know how much
Speaker 1: back they're finding it out now, you know, And why
Speaker 1: is the women's division MESSI for so long I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously the people listening to this show, you know, we're
Speaker 1: generally aware of it, but I don't know how many
Speaker 1: fans really know because unless they were listening to thunder
Speaker 1: Rosa on Busted Open, which I mean, what's the reach
Speaker 1: of Sirius XM. You know, I love it, I love us,
Speaker 1: but you know, you know what was the reach of
Speaker 1: that to the general aw fan or to the person
Speaker 1: even on Twitter? You know what I mean? So I
Speaker 1: think there was so much during that time going on
Speaker 1: with those women and backfighting and was injuries and all
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. A lot of people were reacting
Speaker 1: to what they thought they knew but actually had no idea.
Speaker 1: And I think brit it's like the starting quarterback on
Speaker 1: a team for right now until they established more stars.
Speaker 1: Like anything that happens in that women's division, good or bad,
Speaker 1: it's going to be on Britt Baker. Like you know,
Speaker 1: she is the lightning rod for everything, and she's got big,
Speaker 1: strong shoulders. I was going to say a strong back,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately she doesn't of all the injuries she has
Speaker 1: had since she started. Now we find out about her
Speaker 1: back and it's like, you know, it's too bad, but
Speaker 1: you know, she is really the face of that division.
Speaker 1: To an interview, she said, unfortunately, my back is getting
Speaker 1: worse now. It's a neck and a back problem. It's manageable.
Speaker 1: I'm tough. I will always find ways to work. My
Speaker 1: championship rain was with a broken wrist. I'll figure that
Speaker 1: out one way or the other. You've got to work
Speaker 1: around it. Sometimes, maybe trick your body and think an
Speaker 1: ad doesn't really hurt that bad. Stand by everything I said,
Speaker 1: because I still have the same questions. You're traveling all
Speaker 1: over the place for the projects where you're not coming
Speaker 1: to work when you are the champion. This is regarding
Speaker 1: thunder Rosa. This was an interview that she gave recently
Speaker 1: to Slam Wrestling. I want to know why. I'm just
Speaker 1: asking the question because I'm very passionate, very protective of aw.
Speaker 1: Anybody can call me a bully, but I stand by that,
Speaker 1: and that question still has not been answered to this day.
Speaker 1: People like Adam Cole would have killed to be able
Speaker 1: to come back to work. But he can't travel. It's
Speaker 1: not like he was going in and doing a signing
Speaker 1: or a convention or a seminar. They're not coming to work,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't even able to leave the house. You know.
Speaker 1: One of the big things on the show was, you know,
Speaker 1: Adam Cole wanted to come back, and she was very
Speaker 1: protective and would not let him come back. But what
Speaker 1: did not happen was nobody was very protective of Britt
Speaker 1: Baker because I'm broken wrist, dude, that you're working on.
Speaker 1: She's a dentist. Somebody should have said, bro, don't do
Speaker 1: anything until your wrist is heal. You want a broken wrist, like,
Speaker 1: deal with a broken wrist for the rest of your
Speaker 1: life as a dental hygienist. Get the earlier arthritista. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, man, let that thing heal. Dude. Hey, look
Speaker 1: that's and that's actually a great point here too, because
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if my kid has got
Speaker 1: eyeballs on wrestling, but I know there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people who listen and watch this stuff. They want to
Speaker 1: get into the business. And you hear it over and
Speaker 1: over again where you know, make sure you go to school,
Speaker 1: make sure you got something to fall back on. This
Speaker 1: is a great example. Woman is thirty one years old,
Speaker 1: and to be honest, look, if she wants to have
Speaker 1: a family, you know you want to be able to
Speaker 1: like carry your kid to term, you know, with a
Speaker 1: good back and be able to bend over and play
Speaker 1: with them. It goes for both members of that family.
Speaker 1: And she's only thirty one years old and she's got
Speaker 1: her career outside of this, and Casey needs it. And
Speaker 1: this is a great, one of the highest shining examples
Speaker 1: of make sure you got something to fall back on
Speaker 1: as you get into the wrestling business. Not everybody is
Speaker 1: Nick Wayne or Billy Starks, but you know what, they're
Speaker 1: going to school too, well, they're finishing high school. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen look at yeah, but they're
Speaker 1: being forced to, you know, take this stuff seriously and
Speaker 1: make sure you have something to fall back on and
Speaker 1: make sure you have a direction, you know, because again,
Speaker 1: they're very lucky for their positions that they're in. Not
Speaker 1: everybody's going to be that lucky, but everybody will look
Speaker 1: at them as the example of you know, I can
Speaker 1: do that, because I'm sure there's a fifteen or sixteen
Speaker 1: year old kid right now going I want to be
Speaker 1: in this business, you know, and I know I can
Speaker 1: get in, I can do this, I can do that.
Speaker 1: But you know what, don't forget about what these old
Speaker 1: people say, and these old wrestlers say about making sure
Speaker 1: you got some them. April fifth Dynamite as the Guns
Speaker 1: and FTR titled Versus Career, Jamie Hayter versus Jo Ricky Starts,
Speaker 1: Juice Robinson, Blackpool Combat Club will speak with the newly
Speaker 1: turned Brian Danielson and m j F. Day. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that's gonna go well that guy And speaking of Tony,
Speaker 1: Kahn did an interview and he said he considered the
Speaker 1: idea that's with the La Times. He considered the idea
Speaker 1: of going baby face with MJF, but he said ultimately
Speaker 1: he feels AW is at its best when MGF is
Speaker 1: at his worst. He said, I listen to the fans
Speaker 1: when the reactions were so massive. I do, at least
Speaker 1: think about making him a good guy. But MJF is
Speaker 1: the world's best young pro rustler, one of the best
Speaker 1: wrestling heels of any age I've ever seen. I think
Speaker 1: its ability to antagonize the other wrestlers in the crowd
Speaker 1: is unparalleled. AW is at his strongest when MGM is
Speaker 1: at his worst as a villain. Now, I would argue
Speaker 1: this because and I did argue it, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you why I'm arguing it again. Oh here we go. Okay,
Speaker 1: we don't know if he is at his best as
Speaker 1: a villain because they didn't try. There was a short
Speaker 1: period where the fans organically got totally behind this guy,
Speaker 1: to the point where they had to do pre tapes
Speaker 1: where he would bury the crowd to make sure that
Speaker 1: they might boo him during the show. And that was
Speaker 1: the closest that we got. Like as soon as it
Speaker 1: was time to shoot the angle, he was right back
Speaker 1: being a heel again. And here's the thing, everybody, And
Speaker 1: this is why I mentioned this now again not just
Speaker 1: because Tony said it. This weekend is WrestleMania and one
Speaker 1: of the biggest matches on the show is Sammy Zane
Speaker 1: and Kevin Owens versus the use host for the tag
Speaker 1: team titles. The biggest match they've had so far this
Speaker 1: year was Emmy Zane versus Roman Reigns at Montreal. That match,
Speaker 1: in the finish of that match was painfully debated before
Speaker 1: and after, and do you realize that none of that
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen? And the reason we had Montreal,
Speaker 1: the reason we've got this match coming up at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: The reason for all of this is because they had
Speaker 1: a two to three week plan for Sammy Zane and
Speaker 1: it got over organically and they went with it. So
Speaker 1: the point we're now the big argument on the board
Speaker 1: is Dave Off handedly the other day mentioned on Observer
Speaker 1: Radio goes, you know, Sammy's a bigger star than anybody
Speaker 1: else in the promotion, and people were like bigger than
Speaker 1: Cody and started arguing back and forth. But the fact
Speaker 1: that that's even a talking point is because they had
Speaker 1: a plan. Sammy started to get over, they went with it,
Speaker 1: and he became a massive, massive baby face. We don't
Speaker 1: know if that could have happened with MGAFF because they
Speaker 1: didn't go with it. Back in a moment of is
Speaker 1: there Alive and the show, bran elbur is here wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer Live. Mike Simberviv also rustling Observer dot Com. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do Dynamite, but something's up with Koda Bushi. He
Speaker 1: did a tweet which when you translate it appears to
Speaker 1: say that he reinjured his injured shoulder and he's got
Speaker 1: a match with Mike Bailey. I think is it tonight
Speaker 1: or is it tomorrow, tomorrow at four o'clock. All right,
Speaker 1: the last I heard, is it the match is still on?
Speaker 1: But I guess we'll find out. I'm a liar. It
Speaker 1: is today. I'm sorry it is today. Well, I guess
Speaker 1: we'll find out what's going on tonight if he does
Speaker 1: the match or not. Hm, I mean it's it's three eastern,
Speaker 1: so like, is he doing the match or not? That's
Speaker 1: kind of a question. You got about two more hours
Speaker 1: if to me, Look, here's the one thing. If they
Speaker 1: have to scramble to find somebody, this is a good
Speaker 1: weekend to try to pick somebody up and call him
Speaker 1: and say, hey, can you show up at the show?
Speaker 1: So man, yeah, I'm not sure how much more? How
Speaker 1: much more does he have scheduled for this weekend? Is
Speaker 1: he scheduled to face Joe? Is it on Joey Janella's show?
Speaker 1: So yeah, So then there's that on either Friday or Saturday.
Speaker 1: I have to see when that is. So yeah, not
Speaker 1: not good if that's the case. But you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: translations DJ said it earlier in the chat, and he's
Speaker 1: exactly right. Sometimes Google Translate can be a little bit flaky,
Speaker 1: and sometimes koto bushi can be a little bit flaky,
Speaker 1: So we'll see if this isn't just something that is
Speaker 1: h blown up a little bit and it's only mild drama,
Speaker 1: all right. So the Dynamite Show but up with Matt
Speaker 1: Hardy and Jungle Boy, which was a fun match, and
Speaker 1: we had the return of Hook to help out jungle
Speaker 1: Boy as Ethan Page was distracting, he brawled at the
Speaker 1: back with him to set up their upcoming match, and
Speaker 1: then Jungle Boy ended up hitting his new finisher, which
Speaker 1: is kind of like a hidden blade, kind of goes
Speaker 1: the other way back of the head, and he got
Speaker 1: the win. And then afterwards MGF came out and they
Speaker 1: had a long interview segment back and forth, and the
Speaker 1: gist of it is that MGF was very upset at
Speaker 1: Jungle Boy for saying he had an easy road at
Speaker 1: the top. He said he didn't, said that he'd done
Speaker 1: everything he had to do, and they had had a
Speaker 1: match in twenty twenty double or nothing, and he'd given
Speaker 1: Jungle Boys some advice and Jungle Boy said yes, the
Speaker 1: advice was nice guys always finish last, and MGF said yes,
Speaker 1: and you were a nice guy and you hung out
Speaker 1: with all these yeeks and here you are. I'm the
Speaker 1: best wrestler in the world, AW champion, You're just the
Speaker 1: Jungle Boy still And so Jungle said, you know, if
Speaker 1: I have to take my time and get to the
Speaker 1: top the right way, I would rather do that than
Speaker 1: to stab people in the back and end up the
Speaker 1: biggest jerk in all of a w And so MJF said,
Speaker 1: you're a massive disappointment. I talk to your Girlfriendana J.
Speaker 1: She says, you're weak between the legs. So when I
Speaker 1: get a big brawl, Jungle Boy stumps a mudhole in him,
Speaker 1: it's hilariout MJF bales and good segment. It went a
Speaker 1: long time, though, I think he could have done this
Speaker 1: same segment in less time, especially because Jungle Boy, he's
Speaker 1: not a bad interview, but he's not like good enough
Speaker 1: where you can go twenty minutes and you're gonna keep
Speaker 1: the fans engaged when a guy's getting yes chance, when
Speaker 1: the Jungle boys getting yes chance. To me, the segment
Speaker 1: went on to long. You know, one of from one
Speaker 1: of my counterpoints for something you said in the last
Speaker 1: segment about MJF and making him a baby face. In
Speaker 1: my point of view, you can make more baby faces
Speaker 1: with him, and I thought last night he did that
Speaker 1: was some of the best j JF on the microphone
Speaker 1: when he comes to putting over jungle Boys, especially because
Speaker 1: Jungle Boy can't go out there and cut that twenty
Speaker 1: minute promo, and I thought he did a great Ric
Speaker 1: Flair esque job in making sure he was putting him
Speaker 1: over on top of insulting him and then really getting
Speaker 1: into the MJF dig At the end, we had Marvez
Speaker 1: interviewing Callous. Callous is like he's trying to explain to
Speaker 1: Kenny that this was all a misunderstanding and he might
Speaker 1: be getting through to him, but then he does a
Speaker 1: line you know me right, And as soon as he
Speaker 1: says zat Kells is like, yeah, this guy is a despicable, horrible,
Speaker 1: awful man to Tilba moose Trade or whatever you call him.
Speaker 1: And so then Don realizes maybe I shouldn't have said that,
Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, that's fair, but anyway, it was
Speaker 1: an accident I slipped. He goes, I'm gonna go tell
Speaker 1: a hangman right now, I'm gonna apologize. Off he goes
Speaker 1: to his doom. As it turns out, and he claimed
Speaker 1: Jericho appreciates Society. They're out in the town Jericho Appreciation
Speaker 1: Society trying to recruit the acclaimed, and they're gonna get
Speaker 1: an answer next week, and I don't like their chances.
Speaker 1: Thawn Castle and the Boys versus the Blackpool Combat Club.
Speaker 1: Blackpool Combat Club destroyed them, massacred them, left them for dead,
Speaker 1: and left Hangman's doing a promo. So we got a
Speaker 1: real injury with Matt, which is a biceps injury, and
Speaker 1: we have a fake injury with Nick which is a
Speaker 1: separated shoulder, and he says, hopefully they'll heal and Callis
Speaker 1: shows up. He tries to give a handshake, and before
Speaker 1: Hangman can consider it, the BCC shows up again. They
Speaker 1: killed a Hangman. Tom's just standing there with his hand
Speaker 1: outstretched the entire time, and then Hangman's Hayman's dead. So
Speaker 1: he's like, I get a handshake from Moxley, Moxley kills him.
Speaker 1: He's dead. Gashed open Kenny Omega Jeff Cobb I WGPUS title.
Speaker 1: You know he gonna get with keny Omega. A great
Speaker 1: match and not always the same match. This match was
Speaker 1: totally different from last week, and it was totally great
Speaker 1: in a completely different way. Jeff Cobb looked awesome. He
Speaker 1: did a running delayed spinning brainbuster. At one point, V
Speaker 1: trigger of his own tried the One Winged Angel. Kenny
Speaker 1: finally hit the V trigger and somehow got this guy
Speaker 1: up hit the One Winged Angel and pinned him. And
Speaker 1: then the BCC they show up again and they start
Speaker 1: stomping a mudhole in Kenny and then Danielson's music hits.
Speaker 1: At first, the fans go quiet because they're like, what,
Speaker 1: they don't even think he's actually there. But then he
Speaker 1: comes out and they go nuts. And then he gets
Speaker 1: in the ring and he's backing up the hangman and
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of looking at the hangman and
Speaker 1: the fans are like, no, don't turn. But then he
Speaker 1: turned and they cheered. He's horrible fans. He killed him, Yes,
Speaker 1: Locke smothered him to death. So all of the Blackpool
Speaker 1: Combat Club, including Daniel Bryan or now heels and you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of debate about well, wasn't Brian always
Speaker 1: a heel? Here's the deal with the Blackpool Combat Club.
Speaker 1: They were This is my interpretation. I can't say, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a fact or anything, but they've always for
Speaker 1: a while, they were always baby faces. But they're baby
Speaker 1: they're like Steve Auston baby faces, like they don't care
Speaker 1: that you put them in the ring. They're gonna kill you.
Speaker 1: And even even Brian's character was like, you know, he's
Speaker 1: a he's a spiritual man, he's meditating, he's kind, he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to hurt anything. But when the bell rings,
Speaker 1: like run, that was always his character. Well now his
Speaker 1: character is whether the bell rings or not, you better run.
Speaker 1: That's the heel turn of this Brian Danielson character. He's
Speaker 1: a he's a bad guy beating up that poor hang man. Asked,
Speaker 1: boys did a promo talking about next week. Top guys
Speaker 1: out next week, they say, because his title versus career
Speaker 1: Butcher and Orange Cassidy International title, you know who's great?
Speaker 1: Orange Cassidy and the Butcher. I thought they had a
Speaker 1: very very good match. There was a lot of interference
Speaker 1: by the Blade, and so finally he ends up hitting
Speaker 1: Orange with a crowbar. Butcher hits a choke breaker. Everyone
Speaker 1: thinks it's over, but Orange kicks out. Best friends run down.
Speaker 1: They're taking out the blade. One of them clonks the
Speaker 1: Butcher with the crowbar. He gets his just desserts Orange.
Speaker 1: It's the Orange punch pins him. Very good match. Orange
Speaker 1: still the champion. Remember I was ranting about Jade Cargill, Well,
Speaker 1: this week she was gotten to. This week she was selling.
Speaker 1: This week she was angry. She's very angry. This tie
Speaker 1: of Valkyrie doesn't like her, wants to get rid of her.
Speaker 1: And then Mark Sterling says, Tie, have you used the
Speaker 1: jaded on Friday? That's it, We're suing. This is a
Speaker 1: much needed promo. Here we had Willow and Ruby, which
Speaker 1: man I thought this was a hit because these fans
Speaker 1: love Willow Nightingale. They were so into this match, and
Speaker 1: granted you had tons of interference, like the heel's interfered
Speaker 1: fifty times. No friends out for poor Willow, and finally
Speaker 1: there's another distraction. Ruby rolls her up and pins her.
Speaker 1: And then finally, I don't know what they were doing,
Speaker 1: Riho and sky Blue run out. They start to make
Speaker 1: the same but they get killed because it's three on two,
Speaker 1: And finally they hit Jamie Hayter's music in this place
Speaker 1: and they just they went nuts, and she comes down
Speaker 1: to the ring and she's killing blokes. One on three,
Speaker 1: she takes out all of the heels single handedly. The
Speaker 1: fans were going nuts for this comeback, and then she
Speaker 1: stands triumphant there at the end. Overall, I thought that
Speaker 1: was a real good segment, and it was in the
Speaker 1: death spot, so we'll see how it ends up on TV.
Speaker 1: But they're into the baby faces here, I'll give him
Speaker 1: that much. Adam Cole his return match against Daniel Garcia.
Speaker 1: There was a spot early where they were on two
Speaker 1: different pages, but once they got past that, I thought
Speaker 1: this turned into a really good match. I thought they
Speaker 1: did a good job telling the story. You know, Daniel
Speaker 1: Garcia keeps dropping him on his head like with a
Speaker 1: pile driver and then a cross arm pilot driver. A
Speaker 1: man was he making sure this guy didn't really land
Speaker 1: on his head, which is what you're supposed to do,
Speaker 1: And so Cole escapes this, he escapes that finally hits.
Speaker 1: The Panama's sunrise hits, the boom gets the pin, everybody's cheering,
Speaker 1: they're dropping confetti from the sky. Outcomes Britt Baker, They hug,
Speaker 1: they kiss, everyone's so happy. And then Jericho's music hits
Speaker 1: and he comes down to the ring and he checks
Speaker 1: on Garcia and he pulls his man out of the
Speaker 1: ring and he starts to help him to the back,
Speaker 1: but man, he's angry. And then he just turns and
Speaker 1: he looks at this Adam Cole. So Chris Jericho and
Speaker 1: Adam Cole probably gonna be the pay per view match,
Speaker 1: Probably gonna be great. I like this feud. Give Adam
Speaker 1: Cole a big win as he works his way up
Speaker 1: this long ladder, and I liked it. It's a good show.
Speaker 1: And not only that, who would you rather work with
Speaker 1: coming back from injuries? I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: talent in aw, a lot of guys do a lot
Speaker 1: of crazy things. But if I'm coming back from the
Speaker 1: type of injuries that Adam Cole is coming back from,
Speaker 1: give me the old pro please, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know, Chris Jericho is not gonna do any you know,
Speaker 1: seven hundred and twenty moonsalts on top of your head
Speaker 1: or whatever, So that's gonna be good for him. The
Speaker 1: acclaimed in Billy Gunn. The talk about FTR and all
Speaker 1: that stuff with the guns and the belts and are
Speaker 1: they better off and all that sort of stuff. The
Speaker 1: acclaimed against Matt Manard and Parker with Billy Gunn and
Speaker 1: Jake Hager squaring off in purple hats like you didn't
Speaker 1: need belts for that. And I think this is where
Speaker 1: they acclaimed are really valuable, and this is where Manard
Speaker 1: Parker are probably going to show themselves to be really,
Speaker 1: really valuable too, because yes, is it undercard mid card
Speaker 1: Phil on a show, Yes it is, but it provides
Speaker 1: you that comic relief that you need. So I'm actually
Speaker 1: looking forward to those you know, crews going at it
Speaker 1: and the match with Jeff Cobb and Kenny Omega. Jeff
Speaker 1: Cobb is such an enigma, and I know it's probably
Speaker 1: because of his situation where he wants to work for
Speaker 1: both New Japan and in other places, but damn, you know,
Speaker 1: if I ran a promotion, I would try to make
Speaker 1: Jeff Cobb full time and I would do a lot
Speaker 1: more with him. Every time we see him in aw
Speaker 1: just you know the nature of the beast. He's usually losing,
Speaker 1: you know, and they don't have much for him right
Speaker 1: now New Japan, so you know, it's always a little
Speaker 1: bit tough. So talk about a guy that's better to
Speaker 1: see on the indies, Jeff Cobb shows up. Watch him.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when Steve Bosson was feeding with Vince
Speaker 1: McMahon and it was a big hit. Some of you
Speaker 1: youngsters might remember this feud, and the story was it
Speaker 1: was the common man against his boss. And you, as
Speaker 1: a viewer, if you didn't like your boss man, you
Speaker 1: could watch that show and you could just watch Steve
Speaker 1: Bosson give the boss a stunner every week, and no
Speaker 1: matter what happened, every week, your boss was going to
Speaker 1: get a stunner. Well, raven Sirio did an interview on
Speaker 1: The Jason Show, and Ravens Stereo said, I am not
Speaker 1: making this out. The beating that I give my son
Speaker 1: is dedicated to all those fathers that are putting up
Speaker 1: with their kids like I am. You hear that? Ain't what? What? Back?
Speaker 1: In a moment of Deserver Life back of the show,
Speaker 1: Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live. MIKESIMBERBB, also of
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer dot com. Well, how do the NXT showd
Speaker 1: on Tuesday? Everybody? Well, I don't know. Here we go
Speaker 1: six hundred twenty thousand viewers fast audience for the show
Speaker 1: since February fourteen, eighteen to forty nine eleventh on Cable
Speaker 1: point one six, which is pretty good. Second highest rating
Speaker 1: of the year in that category. NBA Game went head
Speaker 1: to head and XT ratings up in every demo from
Speaker 1: last week females twelve to thirty four up one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty three percent. Wow. Compared to the same week
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, they were up point three percent
Speaker 1: of total viewers and fourteen percent in eighteen and forty
Speaker 1: nine the shows. The show's on the rise. Everybody at
Speaker 1: XT is on the rise, so the moon. So I
Speaker 1: am very excited to go to uh that show on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Both happy, he's he's waiting to debut. It'll It'll probably
Speaker 1: be Monday. Quite frankly, where shinska, Dude, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's Kno. Commerce, probably got some mystery injury, you know,
Speaker 1: carrying Muda's backs, probably thrashed. Well, he's was carrying boots
Speaker 1: for so long too. Hey, listen, guys, if you do
Speaker 1: not see the actual final match of the Great Muda,
Speaker 1: including the post match with Choo Bro, this was the
Speaker 1: greatest thing I ever saw in my life. I never
Speaker 1: had so much fun watching a retirement match as I
Speaker 1: did with that Great Mooda match. And the funny thing
Speaker 1: is when Daver's reviewing it, he's talking about how it's
Speaker 1: very emotional, and you know, Muda was very emotional. I
Speaker 1: didn't see any of that. I saw a guy that
Speaker 1: was like, Ah, who cares, I'm done. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: out there and have some fun and then have this
Speaker 1: this comedy thing with Choo here at the end. I
Speaker 1: loved it. Go find it everybody. It's great, and we're
Speaker 1: out of here. I'll talk to you at some point. Everybody,
Speaker 1: have a good WrestleMania week. We'll talk to you again
Speaker 1: after a while. You have been listening to the Wrestling
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