1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It's a Thursday. It's our one, Dan and 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: the Dan As Dan Patrick Show. Come on in stay 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: a while. I got a poll question, play of the day, 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: a couple of stats of the day as well, a 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: lot of opinions. Got a winner take all game coming 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: up tonight. You know, there's a little bit of an 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: irony with the winner take all in baseball. We complain 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: that the games are too long, the season's too long, 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: but then when it comes to the late innings of 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: a series deciding game, the end comes too quickly, and 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: it's going to come quickly for one team tonight tonight 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: Dodgers Giants game in San Francisco. Hard to make a prediction. 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: I think Vegas has this as an even pick. Games 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: come down to the smallest things. Like the other night 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: the Dodgers Gavin Lux look like he had a game 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: tying home run. The wins in Los Angeles knocked it down. 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Usually it's the wins in San Francisco. But you know, 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 1: you start to look at this. You never know how 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: long the starting pitcher is going to go. If it's 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: a middle reliever, it's going to be a closer. One 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: of the greatest moments in postseason history was Bobby Thompson 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: shot heard round the world when the Giants beat the 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: Dodgers to win the Pennant. You never know the night's 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: the kind of game that can generate moments that we 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: remember forever. And a lot of times you'll find a 27 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: pitcher or a team that they're really focusing in on 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: one or two guys, and it's the guy that they 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: don't think will beat them that they let a pitch slip. 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: It's happened before down through the years, decades. There's always 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: somebody that comes out of a World Series and you go, 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: he batted four fifty would And I remember Gene Tennis. 33 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: If you're a fan of the Oakland Aves of the 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: early seventies, they had an unbelievable lineup, but Jene Tennis 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: hit a couple of home runs and became a star. 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: Mark Lemkey with the Braves meaning and even Chris Taylor 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: last week, and he had been a star in the 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: National Championship Series a couple of years ago. You just 39 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: never know, a lot of times it's the pitcher, because 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you had two starting pitchers, two hammers, 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: as I call him. You could win a series, certainly 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: a best of five and best of seven. Those two 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: pitchers might get two or three starts, and that's a 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: big difference. Arizona won a World Series with Kurt Schilling 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: and Randy Johnson. You see that two headed monster. But 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: it's different now because these starting pitchers, they start, they 47 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: don't finish, and maybe if they go five innings and 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: these managers, these managers go out there and it feels 49 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: like I'm supposed to make a decision, I'm supposed to 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: pull him out. The analytics say this, sometimes these games 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: come down to a gut feeling. It's like Tommy Lasorda 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: with Kurt Gibson. He had a gut feeling he can't run, 53 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: but could he give you one swing of the bat. 54 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: And the Dodgers got that home run against the Oakland 55 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: A's and it's set the tone for the entire World Series. 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: But it comes down to one moment tonight, or at 57 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: least it might come down to one moment. Somebody does 58 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: something somebody doesn't. Two things eight seven seven three d 59 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: P Show email address, DPA dan Patrick dot com, Twitter 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: handle at DP show. Say good morning to peacock. That's 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: our streaming partner. 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Yeah? 79 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: It game this series deciding game NBA, NHL or MLB, 80 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: Which is the most exciting or there, or you could 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: say all all three of the same. Well, I think 82 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: it depends on the circumstances. I find no matter who's 83 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: playing in a game seven in hockey, it's probably the 84 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: most exciting of all of them, and then you have overtime. 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: I would say hockey, But if you're talking about specific 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: matchups rivalries, then we could look at baseball. Then I 87 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: would probably have basketball after that, but Hockey's Hockey's pretty exciting. Yeah, 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: pulling basketball Game sevens don't feel that juicy until this, 89 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, the fourth quarter, because something that happens in 90 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. It doesn't really matter when you're watching 91 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: a game seven. In baseball, if someone gets a home 92 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: run and like opening pitch, first pitch of the game, 93 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: you're like, oh boy, it's not there night. It gets 94 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: tense fast. Yeah, And you can have a pitcher who 95 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: struggles early and then last only three innings. It happens 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: a lot in these moments where it gets too big 97 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: for somebody, or the manager goes, boy, I gotta go 98 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: out and take him out. Now? Should I take him 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: out now? Now you get into their bullpen, now it 100 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: changes everything. Or you let a pitch hang and somebody 101 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: that you didn't expect to hit it out. Hits it out. Yes, 102 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: I feel like baseball is the most painful sport to lose. 103 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: At Game seven, I remember when my Phillies lost to 104 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: Joe Carter's home run in Toronto, because it's just a 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: kind of excruciating having sat there down the left field 106 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: line with Dave Campbell and Peter Gammons and Mitch Williams, 107 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: and I'd gotten to know Mitch Williams a little bit 108 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: and Joe Carter, as it turns out, after that World Series, 109 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: I visited both of them in their respective homes. I 110 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: went to Kansas City and I went to Texas to 111 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: visit Mitch Kansas City for Joe Carter, and I just 112 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: remember when you're watching Mitch out there and Joe Carter 113 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: hit it. We were down the left field line and 114 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: I still didn't see where it landed, but I could 115 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: see Joe jumping for joy, and I thought he just 116 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: hit a walk off home run to win the World Series. 117 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: And then later, probably six weeks later, maybe two months later, 118 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: I visited Joe Carter in Kansas City and I said, Joe, 119 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: where's the baseball? And he goes, it's right there. In 120 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: the kitchen drawer. We were in his kitchen and I 121 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: opened up the kitchen drawer and this ball rolled out 122 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: with like dish towels and bottle opener, and he had 123 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: written on that ball, you know, the home run. And 124 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: he gave it to his wife. But it was in 125 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: a drawer in the kitchen. Didn't say like, don't throw 126 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: away at it, right on the ball, don't let the 127 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: kids play with this. And I went to Mitch Williams's house, 128 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: and Mitch was a stand up guy because he said, 129 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: you know, everybody makes a big deal about Yeah, I 130 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: gave up a home run. Look, he did his job. 131 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I didn't do my job. I threw it. He hit it, 132 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: And that's what baseball is. I'm gonna throw it, can 133 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: you hit it? And if you can, you're going to 134 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: be the better man. But we've seen this down through 135 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: the years where you have that moment where are you 136 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: going to produce game on the line, And it'll be 137 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: great tonight because these two fan bases hate each other 138 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: and so much history going back to New York between 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: these two. Yeah, PAULI, if you go back to the 140 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen World Series with the Cubs Indians, that was 141 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: a no lose World Series for history, because the Indians 142 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: were almost like the Cubs, you know, people lovable losers. 143 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: They hadn't won it forever. And when was it Rogie 144 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Davis for the Indians? Yeah, who hit that game tying 145 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: home run? I could speak for Cubs fans. I sat 146 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: down in my chair and went, Oh, that's how it's 147 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna add. This is how I'm gonna get my heart 148 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: ripped out again, because it actually made sense. It was 149 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: like almost confident, like ah, I'm used to this. Yeah, 150 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: and if you're a fan base that you used to losing, 151 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: you'll almost go Okay, where's the an an appeal, like, 152 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: how's this going to happen? I know we're gonna lose, 153 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: just I hope it's not. Is it a slow death 154 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: or is it a guillotine? I mean it's like the Lions, 155 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, they keep losing games, not that they get 156 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: to the point where I mean they would gladly get 157 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: to a super Bowl and go all right, how are 158 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: we going to lose this? But you get to a 159 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: super Bowl, like they can't even get to the playoffs. Yeah, mcleven. 160 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean Bill Buckner still has to be the worst. Well, 161 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: that was the game before, so that didn't win the 162 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: World Series from the match and they had a three 163 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: nothing lead I think in game seven, I mean after 164 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: the Bartman play. You know in two thousand and three 165 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: the Cubs had a lead, carry Wood hit a home run, 166 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: like it felt like, okay, you're gonna recover. Like these 167 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: games sixes are really tricky because you think, okay, that 168 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: just happened. How do you then overcome that? But you 169 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: still get a game seven. Buckner had the error, they 170 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: still got to come back with Bruce Hurst on the mound, 171 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: and Hurst was going to be the MVP. Yeah, Nick 172 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: club matter. Carlton fifth famous home run where he's waving 173 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: his arms that was not a They lost that World 174 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: Series was at a game six. That was game six, 175 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: I believe when he homered off Pat Darcy I think 176 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: at Fenway, and then you had to come back the 177 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: next game. And if you're the Cincinnati Reds, the big 178 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: red machine because they win that World Series. The following year, 179 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: they sweep the Yankees four games to none. Yes, Todd, 180 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: I know the series didn't end at that moment with 181 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: the ball through Buckner's legs, but given the history of 182 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: the Red Sox and you're in New York and you're 183 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: one strike away. I have to go with that over 184 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: a game ending World Series home round with the Joe 185 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: Carter Mitch Williams deal. Yeah, but it didn't. That wasn't 186 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: the end of the series. I know they still had 187 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: one more game left, but just at that moment, it 188 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: feels like what could be worse than that? People give 189 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: up home runs all the time in different situations. Now 190 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: I would rather I'd rather have Buckner's error and I 191 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: got another game than Mitch Williams throwing the home run ball. 192 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: There's no more games, So how do you How would 193 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: you go? Oh, I'll take that. I want to live 194 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: to have a Game seven. That Game seven, you already 195 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: decided that's going to be a walk off home run. No, 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: I want that opportunity to play again. The Cubs had 197 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: a lead in Game seven, and the Red Sox had 198 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: a lead in Game seven in that World Series. Yeah, poet, 199 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: the Kirk Gibson home run. It's hard to remember. It's 200 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight Athletics Dodgers World Series. Everyone any all 201 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: the Dodgers fans remember that was Game one? Yeah, it 202 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: feels like it was Game seven, because it felt I 203 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: don't remember anything else from that series. If you're a 204 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: Dodger fan or an A's fan, I'm sure you remember 205 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: all of it. But I went back and like, it 206 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: just reminded me that was Game one. Yeah, Vin Scully's 207 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: on the call when Gibson comes out of dugout. Vin 208 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: was like, oh, what do we have here? Like he 209 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it, and Gibson looks like he's fighting to 210 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: get in the batter stock. But also I don't think 211 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: he had another at bat in that entire World Series. 212 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: But it's set the tone for the entire World Series. 213 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I go back to I think it was the A's 214 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: and the Reds, and this was nineteen ninety and I 215 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: remember Joe Oliver hitting a double down the line and 216 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: they won Game one, and I remember how it just 217 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: set the tone for the entire World Series. Sometimes that's 218 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: what it is. It's one game early as opposed to 219 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: that one game later on all right eight seven seven 220 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: three d P Show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter 221 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: handle a DP show. Yes, McLevin, if you would ask 222 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: the pole question, what's the most famous home run in 223 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: baseball history? I actually have A twenty eighteen lists from 224 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: MLB dot Com lists the top ten most famous home runs. 225 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: What would you guess that they would have famous? I'll 226 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: give you a hint. It's relevant to Tonight's team. Well, 227 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: I would um Bobby Thompson's home run. They have shot 228 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: her world heard around the world as number one. Bobby 229 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Thompson's home run. Bill Mazeroski won the World Series for 230 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: the Pirates in nineteen sixty beat the Yankees. Sorry, they're 231 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: not all World Series home runs. There's also impact full 232 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: regular season home runs. Regular season, yeah, there's It has 233 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: nothing to do with winning a game. It's uh, somebody 234 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: breaking it run. So what would it be McGuire breaking 235 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: Roger Maris's or Marins breaking Ruth's record, or Bonds breaking 236 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: everybody's right? The one you're forgetting the all time home 237 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: run record? Oh, Hank okay, yeah, Hank. They have his 238 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: number three. Yeah, so when he beat Babe Okay, yeah 239 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: that was and then they have Gibbey number four and 240 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Carlton fifth, number five. Fis Fisk broke my heart because 241 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: that was nineteen seventy five and you're that that was 242 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: probably close to midnight and I just remember, um, Dick 243 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: Stockton was on the call and you just saw, you know, 244 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: Carlton wave. I have an autograph picture of that somewhere 245 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: here in the man cave where Carlton's you know go, 246 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, stay fair, stay fair, stay fair. I think 247 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: that's how he signed his autograph on that. Who else 248 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: is on that list there? McLeman, Well you had McGuire 249 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: was on that list. Yeah, let's see. Joe Carter was 250 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: on that list. M Barry Bonds hits number seven, fifty six, 251 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, Bucky Dent Yember nine and number ten. 252 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow night. I don't know what this is, twins, 253 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: that's that's Kirby Pucket. Yeah, Kirby Pucket. What is we'll 254 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow night? Guy? That's the call. That was 255 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: the call. Okay, yeah, that was Jack Buck I think 256 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: with the call and we'll see you tomorrow night. That 257 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: was ninety one World Series Game six, Kirby Pucket walk 258 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: off Homer. It's one of my favorite calls because it's 259 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: not one of those it might be it could be 260 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: your backpackpack it was. You knew it was a home run, 261 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: and once again I think it's off Charlie Lee brand 262 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: of the Braves. But it was well and we'll see 263 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: you again tomorrow night, like it was awesome leventh inning 264 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: home run. I just love the call. And then you 265 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: lay out and uh yeah, we were gonna see you 266 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: again tomorrow night. All right, let me take a break here. 267 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: We'll settle on a poll question. Kyrie Irving speaks. I 268 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: know less than I did before he started to speak 269 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: twenty five minutes yesterday, and we'll place some of that 270 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: sound of what is happening. By the way, the nets 271 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: are still on the hook to pay Kyrie quite a 272 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: bit of money here, even if he doesn't play. We'll 273 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: have that for you and the Raiders. They get it 274 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: out of the way, they pulled the band aid off. 275 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: Everybody got in front of the media, answer some questions 276 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: and as long as no more emails come out, then 277 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: maybe that's the last time they're answering these questions. Take 278 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: a break, just getting started here on the Dan Patrick 279 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: Show back after this. 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Be sure to catch us live every weekday 293 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on 294 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the 295 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the 296 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: Peacock app. Sunday Night Football on NBC and Peacock, it'll 297 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: be the Seahawks going to Pittsburgh Festivity started seven Eastern 298 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: on NBC and Peacock. McLevin, what's the poll question? We're 299 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna go actually put up what's the most exciting game? 300 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: Seven to you? NBA, NHL or MLB Okay, Actually, NHL. 301 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: That's the early lead. So we'll see if people catch up. 302 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: You got Buccaneers at the Eagles coming up tonight. We'll 303 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: talk about that. With Tom Brady battling an injured thumb, 304 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: even though he threw for five touchdowns against the Dolphins, 305 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: and both these teams battling a lot of injuries. Here 306 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: we are going into Week six, and just the number 307 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: of injuries here across the board, and you're adding one 308 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: more game here. This is you know, it's really a 309 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: battle of attrition in the NFL from now on. You're 310 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: gonna be lucky if your quarterback does play every game. 311 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: And I'm going to guess, since they're running more than ever, 312 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, the over under for your starting quarterback how 313 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: many games he'll play is probably fourteen, thirteen or fourteen, 314 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: and that might be generous. Right now, it's just the 315 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: younger quarterback. Did you see what Aaron Rodgers said to 316 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Joe burrow Man, You're too talented, dude, you cannot take 317 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: these hits. And he took two really big hits against 318 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, slide get out of bounds. You're young, 319 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: you think you're invincible, and you're not. You know, I 320 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: go back to the first moment when I realized somebody 321 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: was being smart, but in the moment I didn't realize it. 322 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: I was too young. Franko Harris used to run out 323 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: of bounds and I just remember, wait, running backs don't 324 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: run out of bounds. And Jim Brown critiqued Franco Harris, like, no, 325 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: you take on contact, you initiate contact. You don't run 326 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: out of bound. Franco was smart. Franco was like, I'll 327 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: just run out of bounds, all right. I might get 328 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: one or two more yards, but at what cost. You 329 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: got to reduce the number of hits, and you know 330 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: the angles of those hits, the momentum of those hits, 331 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: slide go out of bounds. It's okay. You don't want 332 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: to go in a fetal position like Brady and Peyton 333 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: Manning did. Okay, but don't go Andrew Luck where you 334 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: go middle linebacker after you throw an interception or Baker 335 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: Mayfield did this as well. Live to see another down, 336 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: another game, another season. Yeah, McLevin, But Lamar Jackson's not 337 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: running out of bounds. In fact, he's faking mcguyprot He 338 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: makes me nervous. I know he did get knocked out 339 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: of the playoff game with I know. I just I 340 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: say this every year. Will continue to say this every 341 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: year for the last fifteen years. Get out of bounds. 342 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: There's no shame, like the entertainment part of this. You know, 343 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: I understand it, Like there's no shame. Just just get 344 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: out of bounds. It's okay, nobody's gonna you know, critique 345 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: you like Jim Brown, critique Franco Harris. You're a quarterback, 346 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: act like one and that means be smart. All right, 347 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: let me get to Jim and Idaho and then we'll 348 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: talk about Kyrie Irvin. All right, Hey, Jim jan boys, 349 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: how you guys doing great? Jim good. Hey Dodgers Giants tonight, Boy, 350 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: what a matchup you guys are touched upon it before Seaton. 351 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: I think Roberts really nailed it when he said this 352 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: is what the league wants. I mean, Dodgers Giants have 353 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: never met each other in quite some time, certainly in 354 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: the playoffs, so it's going to be exciting game in. Hey, Dan, 355 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: and wanted to get your take on the Andrew Brant 356 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: interview you did yesterday. It was really good. Kind of 357 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: gave me a thought about this conspiracy theory with the 358 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: league and what did John Gruden have on the Redskins. 359 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: The way I look at it is he made those 360 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: comments in the email ten years ago. I think it 361 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: was his brother was coaching the team. He had a 362 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: relationship with Bruce Allen, given his days in Tampa Bay. 363 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: What did he know? I mean, this is like a 364 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: perfect setup for Ali her Stone or something to come 365 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: in with some conspiracy theories. Just wanted to get your 366 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: take on that. And finally, Dan Hey, was my wife's 367 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: sixtieth birthday two days ago. She is a big fan 368 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: of yours by proxy because she sees me watching the simulcast. 369 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm listening to you on my cell phone at the 370 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: same time, so I'm a little nuts about it. But 371 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: her name is Devid. You can give her a shout 372 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: out to her sixtieth birthday. They'd be awesome. All right, Well, 373 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: thank you, Jim, and you just did and deb happy 374 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: sixtieth birthday and good luck with Jim. But I don't 375 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: know anything about John Gruden's situation. I have a source 376 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: who's involved in this, but I've I've asked and the 377 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: source doesn't know, Like, what else is at stake? What's it? 378 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: What's it play here? Because it just felt like the 379 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: focus went from the Washington football team to John Gruden, 380 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: and John Gruden's probably going, wait, what happened? Yeah, they 381 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: got emails when you were at ESPN and you sent 382 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: those to Bruce Allen and with the Washington football team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 383 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: they flagged a couple of those. I don't know what 384 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: he knew or knows about the Washington football team, but 385 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: chances are they would have found that in the Bruce 386 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: Alleny emails and emails from his brother Jay. John wouldn't 387 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: have been initiating something. It would have come from inside 388 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: to the outside, not the other way around. But I 389 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: don't know. Mike mayonk is the Rays GM and he 390 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: talked about the situation yesterday. I've touched base with as 391 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: many of the guys as I could over the last 392 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: several days. We talked with the players, the captains spoke 393 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: up at the team meeting. To a certain extent. The 394 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: common denominator from the players has been focus and professionalism. Yeah, 395 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of we got to move forward here 396 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: and they do. This was a one day, one day event, 397 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: meet with the media. Say what you need to say, 398 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, Derek Carr said, Look, you know I love 399 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: John Gruden. You know I don't kind of wash away 400 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: the sin here paraphrasing, but it was I love him, 401 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, I love the sinner, but I hate the 402 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: sin basically. But you know, the Raiders got to move 403 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: on from this. I just don't know if there's going 404 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: to be any more leaks because my gut feeling, and 405 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: according to my source, there's going to be. But Raiders 406 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: moved on, and now the question is who else is 407 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: in the crosshairs. But I'm still waiting to hear from 408 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: the commissioner because I would want to know if something 409 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: happened inside my building under my watch, with people who 410 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: are senior executives looking at these emails, I don't think 411 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: that these were interns combing through emails. Okay, how many 412 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: people had accents to the emails? Let's start there, because 413 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: I gotta believe there's a lot of nervous people and 414 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: there should be all right, Kyrie Irving, he didn't meet 415 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: with the media. He was on Instagram, so the media 416 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to offer up any follow up questions. 417 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: And there is something that was or there was something 418 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: that was said yesterday that is screaming for a follow up, 419 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: and I'll get to that coming up in a moment, 420 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: Kyrie said, of course, it's not about the money, Yo. 421 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna lose out on money, and you're gonna lose 422 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: out on this, Like, so what It's not about the money, baby, 423 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: It's not always about the money. It's about choosing what's 424 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: best for you. You think I really want to lose money. 425 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: You think I really want to give up on my 426 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: dream to go after the championship? Okay, Kyrie is going 427 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: to get paid when he goes on the road, and 428 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: he's what is happening now. So the NBA's expectation is 429 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: that Kyrie Irving's refusal to get a vaccine shot and 430 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: then being unable to play in his team's home games 431 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: will fall fall under the reasonable cause clause. That means 432 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: he gives up three hundred and eighty thousand dollars per game. 433 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: So if he misses every game this season, including the preseason, 434 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: then it's gonna cost him around seventeen million dollars. That's 435 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: the regular season games. Then he has two regular season 436 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: games against the Knicks at the Garden, but he's going 437 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: to then make the other half of that by being 438 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: on the road whether he plays or not. But he 439 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: can practice on the road and if they choose to 440 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: have him play on the road. But he did say 441 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: that he's not done playing basketball. Don't believe that I'm retiring. 442 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: Don't believe that you know, I'm gonna give up this 443 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: game for a vaccine mandate or staying unvaccinated. Don't believe 444 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: any of the like really be aware. Okay, this is 445 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: the one that screams out with follow up questions, but 446 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: we couldn't because there was no media there with follow 447 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: up questions. All these people saying all these things about 448 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: what's going on with me, and it's just not true. 449 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: Pay attention to what's going on out in the real world. 450 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, people are losing their jobs to these mandates. 451 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: People are having to make choices with their own lives, 452 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: which I respect, you know, and I don't want to 453 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: sit here and play on people's emotions either. Just use logic. 454 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: You know, what would you do? You know, if you 455 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable going into the season when you were promised 456 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: that you would have exemptions or that you didn't have 457 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: to be forced to get the vaccine. You know, this 458 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: wasn't an issue before the season started. This wasn't something 459 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: that I foresaw coming where I'll prepare for it. Okay, 460 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: he was promised exemptions. That's where if I'm allowed to 461 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: ask a question of Kyrie, because Kyrie will say, hey, 462 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: respect my privacy while speaking publicly about this and then 463 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: wanting to speak on behalf of those that are don't 464 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: want to get the vaccine, you can't have it. I can't. 465 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: I can't respect your privacy. If you keep talking about 466 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: it and you want to talk about those who don't 467 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: have a voice, then how can I not ask you 468 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: a follow up question? And who promised you something like? 469 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know, you know, if he 470 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: was lied to by the NBA, by the Nets. Look, 471 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm open minded to this. I'd just like to know. 472 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: You know, do I care if he plays in the 473 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: NBA this year? I don't. If he does play, great, 474 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: he's a wonderful talent. But you don't want to play. 475 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: You sort of want to play. If I'm the Nets, 476 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't want you to sort of want to play. 477 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: It's called a team. You want to make a decision 478 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: for you individually, then you make it, but you can't 479 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: sort of make a decision because the team has to 480 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: make a decision, and the team should move on, and 481 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if Kyrie gets traded, I don't Why 482 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: would you want Kyrie if he's not going to be vaccinated? Okay, 483 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: you can go to another city, another state where you 484 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: know he doesn't face you know these mandates. Okay, but 485 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: this isn't the first time we've had boy, what's Kyrie thinking? 486 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: And it's not gonna be the last time we have 487 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: something where we go, what's Kyrie thinking? Or why did 488 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: he say that? Or why did he do that? He did? 489 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: Put his money where his mouth is when you think 490 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: about it, because everybody's like, oh, okay, you don't want 491 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, put your money where your mouth is. 492 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: He did. Oh, I can respect that. But if you're 493 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: not going to play, then just don't play. I don't 494 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: think you're being fair to your team. You're being selfish. 495 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: If you want to still be part of a team. 496 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: You don't want to be part of a team. This 497 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: is on you. Go ahead. Yeah, you want to have 498 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: a book, you want to you know, give speeches, you 499 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: want to be vocal about this thing, great, go go ahead. 500 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: But it felt like it was somebody who was doing 501 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: a class project and threw it together at the last minute, 502 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: and it just didn't feel like it was fully vetted 503 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: where you know, you're really looking at some strong points here. 504 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: I think you owe it to the media and to 505 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: this story. Tell us who promised you what? Like, That's 506 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: what I'd want to know. That's the only thing I 507 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: want to know right now. Who promised you this? What 508 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: did they promise you? Were you told you didn't have 509 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: to do this? Okay? We're told things, it feels like 510 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: on a weekly a monthly base, you know, where you 511 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: go into a city or go into a state. What 512 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: do I have to do? Hey? I was told this. 513 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: Hey I don't need my vaccination card going into a 514 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: restaurant in New York. No, you do this week? Like 515 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: we we hear this all the time. We adapt. We 516 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: may not like it. Hey, you got to have a 517 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: mask on. I didn't bring one. Well here we're gonna 518 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: give you one. Okay, you got to adapt. We've been 519 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: told a lot of things for the last year and 520 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: a half on this, but I think you understand that 521 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: this is a moving target here, and if Kyrie doesn't 522 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: want to play, doesn't have to play, and you know what, 523 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: we won't miss him. But you can't be you got 524 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: and you can't be both. You can't be sort of 525 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: a part time player, you know with the nets that 526 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: they want to move on and this was going to 527 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: be their year. When you think about it, everybody healthy. Yeah, point, 528 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's weird. I don't want to speak out 529 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: of school here, but like I respect anyone who stands 530 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: up for something is willing to go if their salary 531 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: for something really believe in. If that's what he is 532 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: altruistic about this, then great. But there's a lot of 533 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: people not saying me. I'm saying what I saw a 534 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: response on social media yesterday is like, this guy is 535 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: just doing it for attention. He's taking a situation making 536 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: it about him, which is what he's been known for 537 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: a bit in the past. So a lot of people 538 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: doubt his intentions. But what does he how does he 539 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: benefit attention? But he's starting up money, he's already got. 540 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: I think he's got a ring right with the Cleveland. 541 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: But what do you do with that attention? Some people 542 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: like it for the sake of it. Somebody like to 543 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: be the you know, stirring the drink and the focal 544 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: point and you know, stirring the pot. Okay, that's what 545 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people think, Okay, I mean, I don't 546 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: read into it that deeply. It's just I'm just trying 547 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: to figure it out because he is a Hall of 548 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Fame player, and he is not going to play or 549 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: play half or part time for the best team or 550 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: the favorites to win the title this year. So it 551 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: is a big deal. Yes, Yeah, it's almost like like 552 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: some people want to be rich, some people want to 553 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: be famous. You know, you don't necessarily want to be 554 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: rich and famous. Some people want one or the other. 555 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: That's kind of like the attention thing, I would think, 556 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: right almost like not to say it's like a personality 557 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: disorder or something, but there are some people who just 558 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: need attention all the time and they get it no 559 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: matter how they could get it. And I'm not saying 560 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: that that's what Kyrie is doing either at all, but 561 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: there is that people do have that part of their personality. 562 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: He's already got his money, He's made what one hundred 563 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: and sixty million dollars. I don't think money has has been, 564 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, the driving force for him. And he's gonna 565 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: lose on that Max contract extension. Yeah, Poling, you know, 566 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: I was watching Billions, not too long ago, and the 567 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: big guy who's a billionaire says, it's what's the use 568 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: of having screw you money unless you say screw you 569 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: and use a different phrase. He goes, but it allows 570 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: you to do that every once in a while when 571 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: you don't want to listen. Okay, Yeah, I mean he 572 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: is complicated, or at least he presents himself as being complicated. 573 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: I always feel like he wants to be the smartest 574 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: guy in the room, and sometimes that doesn't go well. Yes, Kyrie, 575 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: because he's been so difficult over the years and sort 576 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: of such an enigma to figure out, has worked himself 577 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: into like this corner of public opinion where no matter 578 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: what he says, it's the wrong thing, you know, like 579 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: you said before, like oh, put your money where your 580 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: mouth is. Then you don't want to do then put 581 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: you Okay, I'll put my Why are you costing yourself 582 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: all that money? You know? It's like, all right, if 583 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: you don't want to play, then just don't play. I 584 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: don't care. And then he doesn't play. It's like, where's Kyrie? 585 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: Why isn't he playing? You know, It's kind of he's 586 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: kind of gets it from all angles all the time. 587 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: Some of it is by his own doing. Yes, a 588 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: lot of it's by design. But if he doesn't want 589 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: to play, I don't then I'm fine with that. I 590 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: don't want him to do part time now. That is fascinating, 591 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: it's a storyline. I just don't think you're being fair 592 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: to Kevin Durant, who you partnered with to make this work. 593 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 1: He came there specifically to play with you. How do 594 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: you That's what I'd love to know. How are you 595 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: and KD when you're around each other? Does I don't 596 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: know the vaccine come up? Does hey see you on 597 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: the road? I okay, just feels like it's sort of 598 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: hanging there. And if you don't want to play, don't play. 599 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: But you can't say respect my privacy. But then you 600 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: want to talk about this. If you don't, I'll respect 601 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: your privacy. Don't say anything, or let us talk to you. 602 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: We've invited him through his agent. Nothing wrong with somebody, 603 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, clarifying something or giving you a different thought 604 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: on something. I'm open minded to it. I'd love to 605 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: know who promised him something and what was promised in 606 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: fairness to him. All right, we'll take a break. Play 607 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: of the Day is up next, we'll get to Owe 608 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: calls as well. Operator Marvin standing by eight seven seven 609 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: three D p shop. Thanks for listening to The Dan 610 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. 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Good mornin 646 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: and Pat, it is an honor to be on your show. 647 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: By the way, well, thank you and all I wanted 648 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: to say, is you know, being in the medical field, 649 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, talking about the COVID vaccines and all that, 650 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: it's just dangerous, you know, to be around people like 651 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: that because you know what, I got vaccinated and I 652 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: got COVID and imagine being on a basketball court, you know, 653 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: with people that have been vaccinated that have not. I mean, 654 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: that's that's just a big issue. Yeah, I don't want him. 655 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want him around the team. But he's gonna 656 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: have to go through you know, these COVID protocols every 657 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: single day. You got to get tested every single day, 658 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: probably during the morning and then later prior to the game. 659 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: You know, does he want to go through that? Does 660 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: the team want to go through that? Matt in North Carolina, Hi, Matt, 661 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: Good morning guys. I've just quick comments about Kyrie. One 662 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 1: of the top three public conspiracy fellows in the NBA, Flatter, etc. 663 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: Goes on Instagram to say, don't believe everything you hear 664 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: just a bit ironic. Yeah, you know you and thank you, Matt. 665 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes you want publicity, but if you don't have a platform, 666 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: then where's that publicity coming from. Kyrie remains relevant because 667 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: he's still playing basketball. If he stops playing basketball, then 668 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: when are you going to hear from him? How are 669 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: you going to hear from He's just gonna pop up 670 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: and do Instagram if if that's what he is addicted to? 671 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: The spotlight, Like, I want to tell you how you 672 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: should think or how you should feel. Craig in New 673 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: Jersey High Craig Dpe, how are you good, sir? What's 674 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: on your mind? I mean, I think we're all trying 675 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: to decipher what Kyrie is thinking about. I think boiling 676 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: it down is just attention is a little unfair, and 677 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: obviously you're more ingratiating in sports. What exactly was the 678 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: reason he left Cleveland after that championship season? You wanted 679 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: to have his own team. And I think that kind 680 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: of ties into too why he's refusing the saccine and 681 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 1: refusing the play. He wants to be a leader. Clearly 682 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: he sees this as an opportunity to be a leader. 683 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand it somebody who's been vaccinated 684 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: on CD issue, but I mean I think this is 685 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: just he wants to be a leader. He thinks this 686 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: is being a leader. I don't know I could be. 687 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm open to all of this. I'm 688 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: not close minded. I've listened to both sides. I don't 689 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: look at it as political. I just want to listen 690 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: and learn and be smart and feel safe, that's all. 691 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: And that you're able to go about doing things that 692 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: we've been doing before, that's all. He wants to be 693 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: a leader. Okay, then how are you going to lead? 694 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: Who are you leading? We got to respect your privacy, 695 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: so am I allowed to ask any questions? Do you 696 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: want to talk for those who can't speak? Okay? And 697 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: by the way, you quit basketball, you'll have a boatload 698 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: of privacy. But until then, I just think I think 699 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: he's being unfair. These fans are going to pay your 700 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: salary half of your salary. They're gonna be paying you. 701 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: And it's not fair to your teammates either, who did 702 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: what they for the greater good of a team and 703 00:38:53,920 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: a goal and winning a championship. Here, Kyrie is being selfish. 704 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: He signed up for something. Now he wants it his way. 705 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,479 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to do what his teammates have done. 706 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: James Harden did this, Kevin Durant did this. Steve Nash, 707 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: his coach, did this. These are all Hall of famers. 708 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: You know, they're all planned for the same goal. Yeah. See, well, 709 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: I think to be fair though, sidn't exactly what he 710 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: signed up for. I mean, like he said even earlier, 711 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: this is a fluid situation and we're all adapting. We 712 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: have to be able to adapt. So he didn't really 713 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: sign up for the if he was told, say by 714 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: the union the players Association, that he wasn't going to 715 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: be held to a vaccine mandate, and now he is 716 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: being held to a vaccine mandate. That's not what I 717 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: signed up for. That's not what I was told. So 718 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: now he's adjusting on the fly, and that one soundbody says, 719 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: this isn't something I could plan for because it just happens. Yeah, 720 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: but Kevin Durant had to be told the same thing, 721 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: and James Harden had to be told the same thing, 722 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: and other NBA players had to be told. This was 723 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: Kyrie the only one who was told this. No, but 724 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: those people all might be comfortable getting the vaccine and 725 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: Kyrie might not be comfortable getting the vac scene. That 726 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: would be a huge difference. I thought. He said that 727 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: it's not about getting the vaccine. He wants to speak 728 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: up like he's that's part of the problem. I think 729 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: the message that's being delivered, depending on the day or 730 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: the time, is delivered in a different way. And that's 731 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: what I would want to know. Just what is it 732 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: that you're what were you promised? What are you bothered by? 733 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: But I think he said that he's not anti vaccine. 734 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: He's I think anti being told or that you're going 735 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: to lose your job if you don't get the vaccine, right, 736 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 1: I think he's anti being forced to get the vaccine. 737 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: What's that? A lot of people, yes, and I understand that. 738 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: I do. I hear that, Hey, we don't want to 739 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: be told what to do. We're told what to do 740 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: every single day. And I know people whenever this happens, 741 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, it comes down to politics. You know, it 742 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: comes down to stand alive, being smart, protecting those around you. 743 00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: That's all. I think. We get too caught up in 744 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: the weeds here and we're not seeing what the bigger 745 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: picture is. Kyrie doesn't want to play. You don't have 746 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: to play, plain simple, But those who are playing, he shouldn't. 747 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: He shouldn't hurt their chances to win a championship. And 748 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: that's what he's doing because now you can't trade him. 749 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: He says he'll retire if he's traded. According to a 750 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: report by Nick Ryan, Oh says he's not going to 751 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: retire all right, So what is actually your game plan here, 752 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: Michael and Maryland? Hey, Mike, Hi? Are you Dana good? Mike? 753 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: I want to find out what is the big and 754 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: I just heard you actually touch on it about the 755 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: fact that you know that we have we should not 756 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: have choices, but in my opinion, we should have choices 757 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: number one, number two. I just want to understand all 758 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 1: the data doesn't point to any basketball or athletes dying 759 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: from getting COVID, nor does a point to the vaccine 760 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: actually preventing you from getting COVID. The whole thing is 761 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 1: it prevents you from going to the hospital. Yeah, which 762 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 1: these players are the best that players in the country. 763 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're so fit there. They work out 764 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: more than me and you will ever work out in 765 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: our lives. But what about the people they're around who 766 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: aren't the most physically fit. The people who work with 767 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: the team, people are in the offices that you go to, 768 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: they're not the most physically fit, the training staff, Like 769 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: this isn't just about a player or players. You're not 770 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: in the bubble anymore. You're You're in the real world here. 771 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: And yes, you can get COVID. We know, we know 772 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: all of these things. It's are you passing it on 773 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: to somebody? Do you make somebody more vulnerable? There? Like, 774 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things attached to it, Yes, see, 775 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: and there are. I can't necessarily point to a specific 776 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: athlete in the US, but I know that there have 777 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: been a lot of soccer players who have gotten COVID 778 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: and spent like a whole season where it was like, 779 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: what's wrong with that guy? Well, he hasn't really been 780 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: the same since he got COVID because of all of 781 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: those lasting symptoms. And those people are super fit. All right, 782 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: More phone calls coming up. Chris Mannox covering this story 783 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: for your Sports Illustrated Mannixell Jonas. Coming up next hour, 784 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: we will preview Dodgers Giants a little bit later on. 785 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: Ron Darling will be on the call tonight and he'll 786 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: join us in the final hour of the program. One 787 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: hour and the Books. Two more to go on this Thursday, 788 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. One more item as we close that 789 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: hour one it's m drive. 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