1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Before we begin, a reminder to please rate and review 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: our show. It helps new listeners discover us and grow 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: the program. What are the odds of catching a foul 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: ball at a game, or being dealt a royal flush 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: and poker, or even being struck by lightning? Some things 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: are rarer than others, But today we're looking at some 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: occurrences that are truly unlikely, and they're all tied to 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: one guy, Philadelphia. Philly's outfielder Nick Castillanos isn't exactly having 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: his best season, but while his numbers are down, he 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: still leads the league in a pretty remarkable category that 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: you won't find in any traditional stats. On this episode 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: of Sports Illustrated Weekly, s I, senior writer John Wortheim 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: tells the tale of how Costaianos became a meme by 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: hitting home runs that have been, let's say, oddly and 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: hilariously timed, again and again and again. And we should 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: note this piece also includes the voice of the late, great, 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: legendary Dodgers announcer of In Scully, perhaps the only person 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: who was castaganos Pero. May he rest in Baseball broadcast habit, 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm your host John Gonzalez from Sports Illustrated and I 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is Sports Illustrated Weekly. Here's John Wortheim 21 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: to calculate the long odds on the timing of Costallanos's 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: long bombs. Never mind the honey delivery, the wit, or 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: the accumulated baseball wisdom. For all his various and sundry 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: broadcasting gifts, Vince Scully was blessed above all with exquisite 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: timings for all the high five of the goes back 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: to the fan. He may have called baseball games all 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: those years, but he would have been a wonderful conductor 28 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: or musician, says Al Michael's a Scully protege dating back 29 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: to his Brooklyn boyhood. He just has this intuition for 30 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: the rhythm of the game. A viable woman for baseball. 31 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: What a viral vomit for the country in the world. 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: The running joke was at baseball waited for Scully, not 33 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: the other way around. If Ben was in the middle 34 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: of an anecdote and it was a two two count, 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: says Ted Robinson, a long time MLB announcer, you could 36 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: be sure the batter would foul off the next pitch, 37 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: just to be sure Vin would get through his story. 38 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: All of which is to say, it's a good bet 39 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: that's Scully never much intersected with Philly's right fielder Nick Castianos. 40 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: By now you likely know the story or stories all 41 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: three of them. On October, Castianos was playing for the 42 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: Reds during an otherwise somnolent summer game devoid of much significance. 43 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's played by play ban at the time, Tom Brenneman, 44 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: spoke carelessly and cruelly into an open mic during the 45 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: seventh inning of the first game of a double header. 46 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Brennaman didn't realize the broadcast was back from commercial break, 47 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: and he made an anti lgbt Q slur. By the 48 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: second game, as social media did its thing, it had 49 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: become clear that Brenneman's vile comment was going to be 50 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: a problem. In what was both an apology and a 51 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: clear attempt to salvage his job, Brennaman began the fifth 52 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: inning with a soliloquy, I made a comment earlier tonight 53 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: that I guess UH went out over the year that 54 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: I am deeply ashamed of UM. If I have heard 55 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: anyone out there, I can't tell you how much I 56 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: say from the bottom of my heart I'm so very 57 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as 58 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: a a man of faith. As he was winding up, 59 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: so was Kansas City reliever Breg Holland, who offered a 60 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: fastball to Castianos, the batter at the time. As Brennaman continued, 61 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: castiano'ss bad collided violently with a pitch, resulting in a 62 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: towering four hundred and ten foot drive. And we got 63 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: this from Brennaman. As there is a drive in a 64 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: deep left field by Costiganos, it will be a home 65 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: run and so that'll make it a for nothing ball game. 66 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 1: When that awkward interruption was over, and as Castiano's rounded 67 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: the basis, Brennaman went back to doing damage control. I 68 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: don't know if I would be putting on this headset again, 69 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: As ESPNS public Torrey puts it perfectly. Watching Brennaman break 70 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: the fourth wall and then suddenly reconstruct that wall in 71 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: the same breath remains one of the funniest things I've 72 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: ever seen. Brenneman was indeed done in the Red s booth. 73 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: He finished the apology, then turned the broadcast over to 74 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: Jim day mid Gay. The team suspended Brennaman that night, 75 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: and he resigned a little over a month later. He 76 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: now broadcasts high school sports in the Greater Cincinnati area. Castianos, 77 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: on the other hand, was just getting started. The next 78 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: time the Reds visited Kansas City, he struck again George Gorman, 79 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: a World War Two veteran and the father of Royal's 80 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: longtime equipment manager Patrick Gorman, had recently died. Coming out 81 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: of the break at the top of the seventh inning, 82 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City announcer Ryan la Fever began a poignant eulogy 83 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: of Gorman. Nick Castiano Snow was batting, and he chose 84 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: that precise moment to go deep with this seventeenth home 85 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: run of the season. Here's the call delivered by La 86 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: Fiver as it coincided with the first pitch. Well, we're 87 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: gonna tell you about a great man, and it's a 88 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: loss for the Royals family. That's a great life. Nineties 89 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: six years and Pat, just like his dad, went to KU, 90 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: he also went to Bishop Ward High School. And there's 91 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: a drive in a deep left center field. And there's 92 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: never a great time to eulogize someone during the broadcast, 93 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: So we apologize for the timing. But by this point, 94 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: a drive into deep left by Castianos had become a 95 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: full fledged me But he wasn't done using his bat 96 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: to interrupt somber moments acquired by the Phillies in the offseason. 97 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: Castianos was in the box on the final Monday in 98 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: May when NBC Sports Philadelphia announcer Tom McCarthy saw fit 99 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: to deliver a Memorial Day tribute the Gold Chair, which 100 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: will sit vacant here at Citizens Bank Park, honoring UH 101 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: those who paid the ultimate sacrifice, and as if choreographed 102 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: Castiano's rips on a deep left field, it is god. 103 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: Three successive seasons, three earnest moments, each broken up by 104 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: a nick Castiano's home run unlikely, comically unlikely, The question 105 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: just how unlikely? To try and grasp the improbability, we 106 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: consulted sports statistician and NFL dor actor of Data and Analytics, 107 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: Michael Lopez. He was kind enough to help us come 108 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: up with an answer and to show his work. The 109 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: first and most basic question, how often does Castianos hit 110 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: the ball over the fence? In twenty one, he had 111 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: combined forty eight home runs and eight twenty seven plate appearances. 112 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: The home run he hit on Memorial Day was his 113 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: seventh home run of the two season. In his two 114 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: hundred plate appearance, that's a home run five point four 115 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: percent of the time he steps into the box. But 116 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: that's too broad. What Lopez rightly calls grief announcements came 117 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: early in the plate appearance, as baseball broadcasters stories usually do. 118 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: Over the last three seasons, through his Memorial Day blast, 119 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: Castianos hit nineteen home runs on the first or second 120 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: pitch of his plate appearance, which is to say that 121 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: there's roughly a two percent chance that in any given 122 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: plate appearance he would hit a home run in one 123 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: of the first two pitches. Extrapolating that the likely hood 124 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: that he would hit a home run in each of 125 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: those three plate appearances, it's about one in a hundred 126 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: and twenty thousand. But the probability really plummets when we 127 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: ask how likely was he to have three plate appearances 128 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: in grief announcement settings. To answer this question, we first 129 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: need some sense of frequency. How often to broadcasters depart 130 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: from the game to offer the sorts of sombers soliloquies 131 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: that Castiano's has an uncanny way of interrupting the sonic 132 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: equivalent to photo bombing. We put this to Ted Robinson, 133 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: a veteran of calling more than MLB games, mostly for 134 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: the Giants and Twins. But how often a broadcaster would 135 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: deliver a somber monologue. His estimate once a month, and 136 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: that's maybe, he says, there's a question of what do 137 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: we want to impose on an audience honoring Memorial Day. Absolutely, 138 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: maybe there's an unfortunate death of someone close to the 139 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 1: team or an arrest you feel you have to acknowledge, 140 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: but weeks can go by between those that. As a guide, 141 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: a monthly grief announcement would equate to ten such announcements 142 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: over the last three seasons, accounting for the pandemic short 143 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: and twenty campaign. Given that Castianos has played in most 144 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: games over that period, one can assume that in a 145 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: given game with a grief announcement, he'd have a one 146 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: in twenty chance of being a bad after that. Extrapolating 147 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: that to the ten grief announcements, the likelihood of his 148 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: being the bat or after three such announcements is one. 149 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: Combining castianos Is early plate appearance home run rate with 150 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: the odds of Castianos would be batting when the rare 151 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: grief announcement was made. Rate Lopez makes the back of 152 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: the envelope calculation. We'd say there's one in ten million 153 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: chance that Castianos would follow three grief announcements with first 154 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: to pitch home runs. Those are literally powerball odds. Lopez 155 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: points out that the odds improve if we consider the 156 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: probability that any member of the population of Major league 157 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: batters do what Castianos did. The odds also improved when 158 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: we consider that the grief announcement could have been made 159 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: by broadcasters of either team. Then again, the odds become 160 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: longer if we want to refine this and note that 161 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: Castiano's not only hit home runs, but did so to 162 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: left field each time, and though it wasn't a home run. 163 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: Castiano's interrupted a fourth grief announcement. Earlier this season in 164 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: spring training, Blue Jay's announcer Buck Martinez was awkwardly addressing 165 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: the d u I arrest of Toronto pitching coach Pete 166 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: Walker when Castianos laced a single to right field, fittingly 167 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: his first at bat with the Phillies. But little that's 168 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: gonna drop for a basic Castianos reached out of propin 169 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: in the right fair no sport revels and coincidence and 170 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: numerology and statistical cork quite like baseball does. Pictured Joe 171 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: Nicro's only career home run, it came off his brother 172 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: Phil niekro a stand Musual's thirty six hundred and thirty 173 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: hits eighteen fifteen came at home in eighteen fifteen, came 174 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: on the road. Mutual incidentally was born on November twenty one, 175 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty and Tiny Dinorah, Pennsylvania, population four thousand, five 176 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: d eighty. That's the same unlikely birthplace as Ken Griffy Jr. 177 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: Who was also born there on November twenty one, nineteen 178 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: sixty nine. Castiano's speak, though, set the standard for improbability 179 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: one in ten million for perspective, the odds of being 180 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: struck by lightning in your lifetime. For the National Weather Service, 181 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: it's one in fifteen thousand, three hundred. The odds of 182 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: getting bitten by a shark one in three point seven million. 183 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: The odds of getting struck by a meteorite. The astronomer 184 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Allen Harris once haded it one in one point nine million. 185 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: The odds of being elected president of the United States 186 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: one in ten million, which is to say the awe 187 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: and amusement we all have for Castianos, who's grief announcement 188 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: triple Crown is well placed with that kind of timing. 189 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: When his baseball career ends, he might have a second 190 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: career as a baseball announcer, the successor to Vince Scully. 191 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and a reminder to please rate and 192 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: review our show. It helps people find us. 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Our executive producers are Scott Browny and me 202 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: John Gonzales. Our theme song is by Nolan Schneider, and 203 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: if you've stuck around this song, we leave you with this. 204 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: He might have a second career as a baseball announcer, 205 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: a successor to Fid Sculling. That's all I got. I mean, 206 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: you'll you'll cut in the audio there. You don't need 207 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: me saying right like yeah yeah good good h