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Speaker 1: with combine knowledge and notes, NFL combine information, stats, and
Speaker 1: information so profound that it's guaranteed to boggle the mind.
Speaker 1: So if any point, Wolf, everyone starts dozing off and
Speaker 1: you're just boring the pants office, then you know, like,
Speaker 1: right now, Wolf, obviously you got nothing here we go
Speaker 1: do Actually? I do, boy? Right now? I mean a bubble,
Speaker 1: boy that you are right there? Your forehead one fit
Speaker 1: in the bubble. JJ Watt and TJ Watter the only
Speaker 1: pair of brothers who ever both win Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year honors. Did you know that each had the
Speaker 1: largest hand size of any defensive player at their respective combine? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about bad Polly? I'd love to see you know
Speaker 1: what if that is the truth right there? What size
Speaker 1: was it, Paul? Do you know? Was it like the
Speaker 1: legendary eleven? It was? They both were eleven, and I
Speaker 1: believed JJ was eleven and an eighth. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: are you serious? Do you know what your hand would
Speaker 1: look like, Polly? Against that a size eleven hand of JJ's.
Speaker 1: That'd be I don't want any part of that matchup. No,
Speaker 1: you do not wantsoever right there? In fact, did you
Speaker 1: see jj Watt and the tweetie where he's holding the
Speaker 1: gatorade can and somebody split the screen and compared it
Speaker 1: to the old infamous picture of Andre the Giant with
Speaker 1: a can of beer in his hand, And it wasn't
Speaker 1: that far off, I mean, by the way speaking, because well,
Speaker 1: you are prone to giving us a lot of the noise,
Speaker 1: a lot of the nonsense about hand size as we
Speaker 1: lead up to the draft. Just allow you know, I've
Speaker 1: got huge hands. Ball. Let you know that Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: had the smallest hand size among all quarterbacks drafted in
Speaker 1: the first round since two thousand and three. Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: had the smallest hand size of any quarterback drafted in
Speaker 1: the first since two thousand and three. So just I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear you the hand size stuff between
Speaker 1: now and the NFL drafts. Once again, though, Paully, you
Speaker 1: got to understand there are norms, right, I mean, there
Speaker 1: are standards that you're gonna look at and say the
Speaker 1: vast majority, it's always going to be exceptions, Paully. You
Speaker 1: know there's always going to be exceptions like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, having a fullback that's only two hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty two pounds. That was an exception stroke right there.
Speaker 1: You're always going to get the outlier on the combine numbers,
Speaker 1: and that's the great thing about it because you just
Speaker 1: in the end never know. So we're armed and ready.
Speaker 1: We have more factoids on factoids from the combine, ready
Speaker 1: to entertain as we lead up here to Dave Pass
Speaker 1: joining us on this edition of the Big Red Rage Wolf.
Speaker 1: Did you realize that earlier this week Tuesday, Tuesday not
Speaker 1: only was a palindrome to twenty two twenty two, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it, Paul, it was also the start of
Speaker 1: the window in which teams can designate players with a
Speaker 1: franchise or transition tag dot dot dot. Do you anticipate
Speaker 1: either one being used by your Arizona car You know, honestly,
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this right here, and of course
Speaker 1: you're going to have to go ahead and tell me
Speaker 1: what contracts are going to be redone, so to speak,
Speaker 1: What contracts are you going to go ahead and condense
Speaker 1: and free up some money? How much money will the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals have when Steve Kim is ready to go
Speaker 1: in free agency. That is the question that I have
Speaker 1: right now. They're at the cap limit if you believe
Speaker 1: all the websites, and the projected cap is two hundred
Speaker 1: eight million and change, not exactly officially official, yet Cardinals
Speaker 1: are right there at about the cap, maybe eight hundred
Speaker 1: grand over if you do that. So then you start
Speaker 1: looking at certain candidates and you're right, Well, if you
Speaker 1: look at a guy like DeAndre Hopkins, who's annual salary
Speaker 1: is going from twelve and a half to twenty five
Speaker 1: million this coming year, or a JJ Watt from five
Speaker 1: million to nearly sixteen million, Yes, a Buddha Baker from
Speaker 1: seven point eight to fourteen point eight, even a Rodney
Speaker 1: Hudson from two point nine to twelve point six. So
Speaker 1: are these guys candidates to redo? And then if you're
Speaker 1: talking about perhaps a tag is at where Chandler Jones
Speaker 1: might come into play. Pass Rusher to pass Rusher. Here's
Speaker 1: Kyle Vannenbosch on the Red Sea Report this week, just
Speaker 1: on the decisions that are coming from Steve Kim and company.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of tough decisions and a lot of
Speaker 1: it comes down to what does this team think they
Speaker 1: can do in free agency and what positions do they
Speaker 1: value the most in upgrading? So what what says you
Speaker 1: on this front? And in particular, let's start with Chandler
Speaker 1: Jones because the math has been revised. Apparently if you're
Speaker 1: gonna tag Chandler Jones, it's gonna cost you twenty five
Speaker 1: million dollars. Wow, Polly, I thought it was twenty million
Speaker 1: for a franchise tag on the edge. That's what I saw,
Speaker 1: twenty million point one. So obviously you've got new numbers
Speaker 1: that I have not seen right now on a franchise tag.
Speaker 1: But Polly, what about a transition tag possibility? What about
Speaker 1: that the top ten at the position right there? Maybe
Speaker 1: that's something you could do. Give you the right of
Speaker 1: first refusal because when you look at the pending free
Speaker 1: agent class, there are not a lot of edge rushers.
Speaker 1: There just aren't. There are going to be some receivers,
Speaker 1: they're theoretically available. There are going to be some offensive
Speaker 1: linemen that are potentially available in free agency that you
Speaker 1: would be interested in. Not a lot of edge rushers.
Speaker 1: And you know how it works, Wolf In the NFL,
Speaker 1: once you get your quarterback, it's all about protect quarterback.
Speaker 1: And then get to the quarterback right, Yes, and minus
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones the Cardinals, that's going to be a big
Speaker 1: box to check if they don't bring him back. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: you're right about that, Paula. Honestly, to a point so much.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that this week. Is there anyway really?
Speaker 1: What if they do slap the franchise tag on Chandler Jones? Listen,
Speaker 1: I don't think Chan is done. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think Chandler Jones. I don't think they want to pay
Speaker 1: him twenty million dollars a year. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I know they don't want to pay him twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars a year. But you know, honestly, if it's for
Speaker 1: one year, I think it's more. It's something you can
Speaker 1: actually do if you're Steve Kim in the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: And you know, again, I want to see the best
Speaker 1: for Chan. I want to see him go and be
Speaker 1: happy wherever he plays, whether it's here or somewhere else,
Speaker 1: finishing his career. But this is the way that it goes.
Speaker 1: He is a quality edge Russia rim. Because of that,
Speaker 1: I could see them slapping as transition tag on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you think about Look, five of his ten
Speaker 1: and a half sacks came in one game, we know that,
Speaker 1: in the season opener at Tennessee. But he still had
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in total pressures. He tied for the NFL
Speaker 1: lead and turnovers cause by pressure. In fact, he was
Speaker 1: tied with Marcus Golden in that category. And he did
Speaker 1: it without that stud defensive tackle, that guy who was
Speaker 1: supposed to be Jordan Phillips. He did it without, you know,
Speaker 1: at Jeffrey Simmons. He did a while than Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1: He did it without that guy a running mate where
Speaker 1: they could do the t games you talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: and so he got an inordinate amount of attention. We
Speaker 1: know that. And so if you think about it, the
Speaker 1: last time they tagged him, a month later they ended
Speaker 1: up doing his long term contract extensions. So a lot
Speaker 1: of times when you tag someone, that's the catalyst to
Speaker 1: get a deal done because the number is so huge
Speaker 1: that coming season. Yeah, PAULI, No, there's no doubt about it. Man,
Speaker 1: at the edge is a great place to start. But
Speaker 1: I also think right now, man, I'm thinking of Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray and what the Arizona Cardinals have got to do
Speaker 1: to continue the advancement of Kyler Murray and his career.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at offensive guard. I mean, offensive guard is
Speaker 1: a position. Maybe you want to address this, I don't know,
Speaker 1: own free agency if you can. The problem is, if
Speaker 1: you're going to address it in free agency, you're gonna
Speaker 1: pay through the nose. For the most part, PAULI, that
Speaker 1: is a position, offensive line. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: out there that are looking for offensive line. That is
Speaker 1: a position I think needs to be addressed at some
Speaker 1: point in time. For me, for the most part, I
Speaker 1: love getting an offensive lineman, an offensive guard that has
Speaker 1: got some experience behind him, you know, I mean, but
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Suddenly a guy has got some experience
Speaker 1: behind him, has some tape on himself as well, and
Speaker 1: he's doing well. Guess what people want to pay that guy.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the draft. The Arizona Card will say, hey,
Speaker 1: twenty three, we're going to take the best guard a valible.
Speaker 1: That's a position I want to see address because of
Speaker 1: the NFC West and who plays in the NFC West,
Speaker 1: of course, and also because Kyler Murray needs to be protective. Well,
Speaker 1: two thoughts there. Number one, If you take a quick
Speaker 1: look and I was looking today at some potential free
Speaker 1: agent offensive lineman Mark Lewinsky in Indianapolis. Do you like
Speaker 1: the Colts offensive line because their starting guard could be
Speaker 1: out there? But to your point, you're probably gonna have
Speaker 1: to pay through the nose. Here's the other thing, getting
Speaker 1: back to the Combine notes and knowledge, fifty eight offensive
Speaker 1: linemen have been invited to this year's Combine. That's the
Speaker 1: most since twenty thirteen. So that's definitely a loaded position
Speaker 1: group offensive line. And we'll see where the Cardinals may
Speaker 1: be able to pull out of that. We'll hear what
Speaker 1: Dave Pasha has to say about what needs are most pressing.
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Speaker 1: the next certain take from the Pash podcast. And let
Speaker 1: me tell you, if Dave wants a broadcast where he
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Speaker 1: here tonight than he would during a three hour game broadcast.
Speaker 1: As Yes, the voice of the Arizona Cardinals for the
Speaker 1: past two decades is our special guest here on The
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, presented by Santanford and Gil We're Dave Pash.
Speaker 1: How are we doing, Paul wolf how are we doing? Guys?
Speaker 1: We're doing good man. Thank you, David, really appreciate you
Speaker 1: joining us right now. Do you want to rip Paul
Speaker 1: right off the top? Do you want to do something? Oh,
Speaker 1: nothing of the sort. You know, Aaron Rodgers. You gotta
Speaker 1: see where Aaron Rodgers yesterday said each quote just came
Speaker 1: out of a twelve day cleanse where you're eating a
Speaker 1: specific diet. And I'm thinking, you know what, Dave hangs
Speaker 1: out a lot with Bill Walton, especially this time of year.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been on a Bill Walton cleans of
Speaker 1: any sort? Dave, No, No, you know he used to.
Speaker 1: So what he does in terms of his pregame routine
Speaker 1: is he has a large amount of protein that he
Speaker 1: takes into his body, and he also eats about three
Speaker 1: hundred energy choose. And he used to give something to me.
Speaker 1: He is like this gel that he sucks on and
Speaker 1: then he choose. He used to give me something. He
Speaker 1: doesn't do that anymore, which is probably good because I
Speaker 1: could never fall asleep the night after games with them,
Speaker 1: because for him, these broadcasts are like Game seven of
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, merrying up for a battle. So, David,
Speaker 1: you're you're telling me he eats a ton of protein choose.
Speaker 1: Is that what you say? Yeah? Protein bars? Oh my
Speaker 1: good bars, a huge thermis that has like a chocolate
Speaker 1: protein shake. And then he'll sit there and he'll eat
Speaker 1: energy choose like you've seen the little cubes. They're like,
Speaker 1: you know, look like a little you know, jelly candy.
Speaker 1: That he'll sit there and just down those. And there's
Speaker 1: this other thing, this gel that he sucks on. It's hilari. David,
Speaker 1: you had to be so thankful for the pandemic and
Speaker 1: being masked up. I would imagine with the protein bars. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell Aaron Rodgers called his clans a quote a
Speaker 1: kind of recentering that heals you physically and spiritually with meditation.
Speaker 1: So we need to get Aaron Rodgers and boll Walden together.
Speaker 1: I think that's the conclusion there. And by the way,
Speaker 1: for all the day Pass podcast you can go. In fact,
Speaker 1: the latest one features Suns board and stand out mcale bridges. Right,
Speaker 1: isn't that right, Dave? Yeah, we had mckel last week
Speaker 1: talking about you know, the Suns and potentially winning defensive
Speaker 1: player of the year, doing a little bit outside the
Speaker 1: box here with that. And then this week we've got
Speaker 1: George Klayoff cough and you're wondering who's that. He is
Speaker 1: the new PAC twelve commissioner. He will be on this
Speaker 1: week to talk about a lot of things, including the
Speaker 1: college football playoff not expanding, which is you know, a big,
Speaker 1: big topic right now in college football. Well, here on
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage, our big topic is the off
Speaker 1: season and in a lot of ways, it really officially
Speaker 1: ramped up and launched this week. Dave, do you expect
Speaker 1: it to be inactive off season. A team that started
Speaker 1: seven and zero ten and two lost five of their
Speaker 1: final six. We all saw the ending. What sort of
Speaker 1: offseason does that mandate? You think, if you want to
Speaker 1: stay competitive and dare I say, make a run at
Speaker 1: playing in your building comes Super Bowl fifty seven, I
Speaker 1: think it'll be active, Paul, and I think it starts
Speaker 1: with resigning your key players. I would assume that James
Speaker 1: Connor and Zach Ertz are at the top of the list.
Speaker 1: And then you know, trying to figure out, Okay, what
Speaker 1: free agents do we need to target, what trades do
Speaker 1: we need to make? And then I think the draft
Speaker 1: is your last tool that you use to improve your
Speaker 1: team because you're you're that close. The draft is still important,
Speaker 1: but I think these other things, and that was the
Speaker 1: case last year and really the year before. You know,
Speaker 1: you've built your team. Now it's adding that piece that
Speaker 1: can get you over the top. And you know, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray has to be Kyler Murray from the first two
Speaker 1: months for the Cardinals to get where they want to go.
Speaker 1: But you know, adding pieces around you or trading pieces
Speaker 1: to get better players can help Kyler get to that
Speaker 1: next level. There's no doubt about it, David. It's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why, you know, if you look at
Speaker 1: the top three positions of importance maybe this offseason, if
Speaker 1: you guys care to talk about that in regard to
Speaker 1: what you think is your number one position, Polly, receiver.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a receiver. I'm gonna go flat out receiver.
Speaker 1: Right now, you have DeAndre Hopkins, you have Rondale Moore
Speaker 1: and TBA. And look, you had DeAndre Hopkins even when
Speaker 1: he was healthy. Did you really have a legit number two?
Speaker 1: You need that other outside guy and whether that can
Speaker 1: be Rondale Moore, and we'll talk about that a little
Speaker 1: bit later, and we'll hear, you know, just about the
Speaker 1: prospects of perhaps moving him outside and what could his
Speaker 1: route tree be. But to me, receiver is just vital,
Speaker 1: especially in this Cliff Kingsbury offense. And so whether that's feasible,
Speaker 1: whether you can pull a trade, whether there's somebody viable
Speaker 1: be a free agency, I just think that has to
Speaker 1: be addressed because look at how the offense just dried
Speaker 1: up in its productivity once you lost d hop Yeah, Polly, honestly,
Speaker 1: that really is that as a good answer right there,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if there's any wrong answers. I
Speaker 1: think this team does have an awful lot of needs.
Speaker 1: But for me, you're talking about Kyler Murray and protecting
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. And because of that, especially in the NFC
Speaker 1: West where you've got the likes of an Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: I think you have got to do whatever you can
Speaker 1: to shore up that interior offensive line right there, and
Speaker 1: in particular, I would say offensive guard that is number one.
Speaker 1: Now listen, I don't know, guys, do you get that
Speaker 1: in free agency? This is something we were talking about
Speaker 1: PAULI in the last beautiful part of the program for
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. Do you do that in free agency?
Speaker 1: Do you do that in the draft? I love this
Speaker 1: Kenyon Green kid from Texas A and M. Have you
Speaker 1: seen this kid? Six four three d twenty five pounds
Speaker 1: Kenyon Green. I think he might be there at number
Speaker 1: twenty three, And based on what I see, he's capable
Speaker 1: of playing in a zone scheme and a man blocking
Speaker 1: scheme or a power scheme, dave position group what he
Speaker 1: thinks most vital, most needed. Right now, I want all defense,
Speaker 1: and I'll explain why I think you know, you can
Speaker 1: still get somebody in the draft on the offensive line.
Speaker 1: You've got enough veterans there that you can get somebody
Speaker 1: in the draft that you can plug in play. But
Speaker 1: they were pretty good up front for the most part
Speaker 1: this year, and they had depth up front, you know, receiver.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, PAULI. After de hop went down, they
Speaker 1: weren't as good at that position. But you know, how
Speaker 1: much of that, you know, is the offense as a whole.
Speaker 1: How much of that is Kyler wasn't as good, and
Speaker 1: you know he has to adjust to d hop not
Speaker 1: being there. It didn't seem like, you know, his numbers
Speaker 1: obviously went down and things were not as easy for
Speaker 1: him in terms of reading defenses when DeAndre Hopkins is
Speaker 1: not on the field. Uh, you know Aj Green, you know,
Speaker 1: we saw that he's on the downside of his career.
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk almost had a thousand yards, So what do
Speaker 1: you do there contractually with him and Rondel Moore. I
Speaker 1: was curious why he wasn't as productive the second half
Speaker 1: of the season, And again, how much of that is
Speaker 1: the offense as a whole just wasn't as good without
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and Kyler wasn't as good. So for me,
Speaker 1: it's a defense. You know, the defensive line, you know,
Speaker 1: was disappointing. A corner they're young. Byron Murphy was great
Speaker 1: the first half, wasn't as good the second half. And
Speaker 1: you know, inside linebacker, you know, at some point you
Speaker 1: know whether it's going out and get somebody else, I
Speaker 1: mean outside linebacker for that matter. You know, do you
Speaker 1: bring back Chandler Jones at his age, given the money
Speaker 1: that he's going to attract on the open market, and
Speaker 1: then you know your your draft picks. The last two years,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons took a step, He's got to take another step.
Speaker 1: Zavian Collins has to be a factor. So to me,
Speaker 1: I think you're good enough if Tyler Murray is the
Speaker 1: plays the way he did those first seven games, and
Speaker 1: if you can get a second tight end at Max
Speaker 1: Williams comes back that that was a key loss for
Speaker 1: them the man. If Kyler plays the way he did
Speaker 1: the first two months, I don't know that you need
Speaker 1: to have an all star lineup around him, but you
Speaker 1: do have to have better players on defense, or at
Speaker 1: least those younger players that step up on defense. Voice
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals Day pass our guest in the Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage. I will see my next two position groups
Speaker 1: after receiver, and we already talked about edge rusher to
Speaker 1: start the show. But my next two position groups do
Speaker 1: come on the defensive side corner and I think the
Speaker 1: loss of Robert Alfred was underrated. It was underestimated just
Speaker 1: how severe a blow that was to the Cardinals defense.
Speaker 1: When Marco Wilson all of a sudden had to be
Speaker 1: your number two corner down in and down out. If
Speaker 1: you believe Pro Football Focus, he allowed a passer rating
Speaker 1: of one thirty four in coverage. Marco Wilson is a
Speaker 1: number three corner, you are a much better defense if
Speaker 1: you can get a legit number one or number two
Speaker 1: corner to go with Byron Murphy. And then the other
Speaker 1: spot was a spot that Jordan Phillips was supposed to
Speaker 1: fill in free agency a couple of years ago. And
Speaker 1: that's defensive tackle. And if you can have a guy
Speaker 1: who can start collapsing the pocket from the inside, from
Speaker 1: the inside out and or stopping the run, what was
Speaker 1: it a half dozen times that Cardinals gave up a
Speaker 1: buck fifty or more rushing? That was a problem, a
Speaker 1: persistent problem, and if you can get that guy as
Speaker 1: an interior d lineman, that's big. So those are your
Speaker 1: two right there, Polly, those are your three altogether. You
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna go number two. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: corner back. Listen, Marco Wilson. I'm bullish on Marco Wilson.
Speaker 1: I am. I understand the Pro Football Focus grade that
Speaker 1: is out there right now. Here's what I know watching
Speaker 1: him through the first ten to twelve weeks of the season.
Speaker 1: He was a different player the first ten to twelve
Speaker 1: weeks of the season than he was to finish out
Speaker 1: the season. Would you can agree with that? That? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering about that, Paul, Yeah, I seriously wonder about that.
Speaker 1: I know how high the Arizona Cardinals coaching staff was,
Speaker 1: especially the defensive side of the ball, on Marco Wilson,
Speaker 1: and Marco Wilson was holding his own and then he
Speaker 1: seemed to hit a wall and we've seen it before.
Speaker 1: I'm not condoning it. I'm not saying, ah, there it is.
Speaker 1: That's okay, Marco. It's okay. If you don't play well,
Speaker 1: you hit the rookie. Well, No, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: condoning it, But to me, maybe that's what happened to
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson. I think offensive guard, protect Kyler Murray. I
Speaker 1: think cornerback. You need a corner out there to go
Speaker 1: with Byron Murphy and Marco Wilson, and hopefully you'll step up,
Speaker 1: maybe even sign Robert Alfred once again to a veterans
Speaker 1: minimum contract and bring him back at thirty three. And
Speaker 1: then my last room would be the tight end. Man.
Speaker 1: I honestly this was at go back and look at
Speaker 1: the tape. This was a completely different team through the
Speaker 1: first five weeks of the season. Offensively, they play their
Speaker 1: best when they had a two way tight end and
Speaker 1: rundown situation. And Max Williams, Yeah, I mean, Dave, to
Speaker 1: your point, if the Cardinals make zach ERT's a priority
Speaker 1: and they spend the money, they retain zach Ertz, Max
Speaker 1: Williams coming off a knee injury, a season, any knee injury,
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the market going to be for him?
Speaker 1: Do you think it's realistic that somehow, some way they
Speaker 1: can retain both those tight ends for the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two roster. And if they don't, to Wolf's point, they
Speaker 1: have to find another guy. They can do that, and
Speaker 1: that's either in free agency or through the draft. You know,
Speaker 1: getting somebody high that can be a weapon. I mean
Speaker 1: tight ends you now are basically like receivers. Can you
Speaker 1: find that guy that's a great blocker. But I want
Speaker 1: to go back to your guys point on Marco Wilson,
Speaker 1: and that's why I put the defensive line as the
Speaker 1: biggest area of need for me, because if your defensive
Speaker 1: line is better, if you're getting more push up the middle,
Speaker 1: if you're getting consistent pressure off the edge, if you're
Speaker 1: stopping the run up front, your corners are automatically better.
Speaker 1: So yes, they need to upgrade. They need somebody. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure Marca Wilson can't be a number one or
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy can't be a number one there, They're just
Speaker 1: their numbers weren't as good the second half of the
Speaker 1: season because overall the team wasn't as good. So and
Speaker 1: I include you know what I say, defensive line, I
Speaker 1: include outside linebacker that you know, because those guys are
Speaker 1: standing up, but they're on the line the entire game,
Speaker 1: so you know. The Chandler Jones factor to me is
Speaker 1: if okay, if you don't bring him back what's the domino?
Speaker 1: Who's your number one guy there? And if it's not
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, then then who is it? Are you prepared?
Speaker 1: You don't have to pay somebody and those those guys
Speaker 1: are expensive, but you know there is a risk with
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones at this age to give him that kind
Speaker 1: of money. Yeah, he's going to be thirty two this season.
Speaker 1: And if he isn't in the fold and you don't
Speaker 1: get a guy in free agency because it's just too
Speaker 1: darn expensive, and then is that too obvious come draft time,
Speaker 1: that's your and then teams jump you in the draft
Speaker 1: order if there is a viable edge rusher when it
Speaker 1: comes your turn to pick. So and as far as
Speaker 1: marcol Wilson, I'm with you guys. You know, Christian Kirk
Speaker 1: told us something towards the end of the season on
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage, and it was, you know what,
Speaker 1: when Marco Wilson did get beat, it's not like he
Speaker 1: got roasted. He was competitive all the way through most
Speaker 1: of the time. So you know, maybe it's just making
Speaker 1: that jump from year one to year two and he
Speaker 1: is a viable number two eventually, maybe even a number
Speaker 1: one corner. In fact, that will be the question we
Speaker 1: come back, which player do you think will make a
Speaker 1: jump next season? Which player needs to make that jump
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals to make a corresponding leap. It is
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage with Dave pass all presented by
Speaker 1: Satan Pord to Gilbert. We are Satan Pord. It's a
Speaker 1: fleet flinker pitching it back to Laurence. He's in troubles.
Speaker 1: Jump bump pass picked up there side by Murphy at
Speaker 1: the thirty running it back to the left of the
Speaker 1: twenty ten Fida fire Murphy after a horrible mistake by
Speaker 1: the rookie with a pick six Henry off the left
Speaker 1: side and he's dumped immediately, and it's Isaiah Simmons knifing
Speaker 1: into the backfield to take him down. I want to
Speaker 1: play by Simmons. You want to talk about playing downhill.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons coming from the backside, making a play on
Speaker 1: King Henry's baby nigh trafficks on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. For the ears of a Cardinals. We are
Speaker 1: talking with the collective voice stairs and a Cardinals day
Speaker 1: patch and Ron Wolfley here on the Big Red Rage.
Speaker 1: Paully pencil Neck over here bringing you combine notes and knowledge.
Speaker 1: You guys, speaking of Isaiah Simmons, you realize that back
Speaker 1: in the day, with the combines starting next weekday, that
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons when he was at his combine ran a
Speaker 1: faster forty yard dash than the all time greatest return
Speaker 1: man in the history of the NFL, Debon Hester. That
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons ran a four three nine, and Devin Hester
Speaker 1: at his combine once out of time ran a four
Speaker 1: four three. So it's just then. Conversely, you realize Cooper Cup,
Speaker 1: who just won the Triple Crown of receiving and a
Speaker 1: ring by the way, and he was what four for
Speaker 1: four with Matthew Stafford on the game winning Super Bowl drive,
Speaker 1: ran the fourth slowest forty yard dash over the last
Speaker 1: ten NFL drafts of any receiver taken in the top
Speaker 1: three rounds. A four six two by Cooper Cup. And
Speaker 1: look at it right now. Is there a better receiver
Speaker 1: on the planet than Cooper Cup? Right now? Paul I
Speaker 1: ran a four or five eight and a four or
Speaker 1: five nine at the combine just for Walford, David, It's
Speaker 1: in the books. Can you imagine that right there? He
Speaker 1: had to Honestly, it just goes to show you if
Speaker 1: you run routes well and know the road tree and
Speaker 1: in no coverage and know how to beat it, um,
Speaker 1: you can do well in this league, can't you well? Voice?
Speaker 1: I just finished watching Man in the Arena. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys have seen that, Tom Brady. I
Speaker 1: just watched the last episode and the big probably the
Speaker 1: the crux of the issue with the Patriots was finding
Speaker 1: that receiver that go to guy after Welker and after
Speaker 1: Randy Moss and guess who it was. It was a
Speaker 1: guy they drafted I think it was like two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirtieth Julian Edelman who ended up winning Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1: He was Cooper Cup before Cooper Cup. Right, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good stuff. That's good stuff. All right? So look
Speaker 1: who was that guy for the Cardinals this coming season?
Speaker 1: Who's that guy not named Kyler Murray that needs to
Speaker 1: take the next step that you expect to that? I mean, Wolf,
Speaker 1: go ahead, name name let it please, please, please, please
Speaker 1: please please. Saven Coin can't argue with that. I'd be
Speaker 1: honestly right now, I just want to see Zaven Collins
Speaker 1: step up. This is going to be great for him.
Speaker 1: He's going to have the entire offseason. He's actually going
Speaker 1: to be able to work out at the facility. Of course,
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to watch tape. He's going
Speaker 1: to be able to go through the process. He's going
Speaker 1: to be able to just absorb everything that there is
Speaker 1: about the National Football League. He's going to be able
Speaker 1: to study tape. He's going to totally be able to
Speaker 1: get the checks down in his brain. He's going to
Speaker 1: absorb this defense and then he's gonna go on and
Speaker 1: he's gonna take that body. He's going to stick that
Speaker 1: body on somebody. And if you tell me that happens
Speaker 1: right there, that's the one guy. I'll start with Zaven Collins, Dave,
Speaker 1: what do you think? I'll start with Rondale Moore, And
Speaker 1: I think Wolf made a good point on you know,
Speaker 1: Zaven Collins, and we talked in the first segment that
Speaker 1: I was on about you know, the guys in the
Speaker 1: back end that they need to step up and grow.
Speaker 1: Rondelle Moore. We saw flashes glimpses of this guy being electric.
Speaker 1: And again, I don't know what happen the second half
Speaker 1: of the season, and I think a lot of it
Speaker 1: was just the trickle down from d hop not being there.
Speaker 1: But I think if he steps up and he becomes
Speaker 1: a legit number two and you're telling me DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: is fully healthy, I think the Cardinals have a chance
Speaker 1: to take that next step because Rondel Moore fits the
Speaker 1: mold of I shouldn't say today's receiver because there are
Speaker 1: plenty of guys like DK Metcap that still look like
Speaker 1: the guys that you know, we're you know, the top
Speaker 1: five picks, like Calvin Johnson, but you know a lot
Speaker 1: of guys today are the smaller guy, the guy that's
Speaker 1: like Cooper Cup that kind of works in the slot,
Speaker 1: that can do different things, that makes the contested catch,
Speaker 1: that's tough after the catch. I think Rondel Moore has
Speaker 1: a chance to be that guy well. And Sean Jefferson
Speaker 1: was our guest at Cardinals Receivers Coach last week and
Speaker 1: we brought that up, what is the future for Rondell Moore?
Speaker 1: How much more can you get out of them? And
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of who like to compare
Speaker 1: him to a Tyreek Hill, a poor man's Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: and we're not going to go there yet, but Sean
Speaker 1: Jefferson did say, yes, we can target him downfield like
Speaker 1: a Tyreek Hill. He does have that rout tree, he
Speaker 1: does have that pot, but you have to move him outside,
Speaker 1: right Wolf. I mean, it's that viable. Is that feasible? Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hills scorches a lot of defense from the slot.
Speaker 1: I mean watch Him'll line up in the slot, He'll
Speaker 1: run up the field and then all the way across.
Speaker 1: He'll run not a post, but all the way across
Speaker 1: the field. And it's one of those areas in which
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Patrick Mahomes they tear up the league
Speaker 1: on that route, the crossover corner, if you will, you
Speaker 1: line up on the opposite side of the field and
Speaker 1: run the corner. And they do that an awful lot
Speaker 1: right there, trying to get him open vertically and horizontally.
Speaker 1: You guys heard me say this last year going into
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore's rookie season. Man, that kind of speed right there,
Speaker 1: he's got to beat him over the top. If you
Speaker 1: tell me that he's beating these guys over the top,
Speaker 1: He's getting vertical in his routes. And you can throw
Speaker 1: the ball down the field and he can catch the ball,
Speaker 1: he can finish and hurt defenses. Man, it would be
Speaker 1: the best development for the Arizona Cardinals offense, not the
Speaker 1: horizontal route, the vertical rounds. Speaking of development, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with a couple of alignement. Zach Allen, who we
Speaker 1: learned after the year, was playing you know, the bum wheel,
Speaker 1: and he was dealing with an injury. He had some
Speaker 1: really standout games. If he can maintain that sort of
Speaker 1: consistency and be that reliable guy a three technique and
Speaker 1: more versatile as well up and down that defensive line,
Speaker 1: that would be huge. And then I'm gonna throw out there,
Speaker 1: Josh Jones the long term future of Kelvin Beacham. You're
Speaker 1: already paying big money to DJ Humphrey's fifteen million a year,
Speaker 1: and guess what his contracts gonna be up after the
Speaker 1: end of next season. You're gonna have to retain your
Speaker 1: left tackle. Hit. His vital that you get a young
Speaker 1: guy in a rookie contract who you could plug and
Speaker 1: play at that right tackle position. And I think we
Speaker 1: all learned if nothing else Josh Jones is he's not
Speaker 1: a guard. I think twenty twenty one proved he's not
Speaker 1: a guard. He's a tackle. But can he be a
Speaker 1: guy you can actually put in to the depth charting
Speaker 1: count on him going forward. Yeah, that is a good
Speaker 1: I like that, PAULI, Yeah, I like it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you remember when the Cardinals drafted him, they thought, man,
Speaker 1: we got great value with this kid. We had him
Speaker 1: as a late first round pick. You got him in
Speaker 1: the third round. So now it's time for him to
Speaker 1: play like that. And we saw a couple of games
Speaker 1: where he did, and then that was about it. And
Speaker 1: I think we all wondered why he wasn't as good,
Speaker 1: you know, that last half of the season man as
Speaker 1: he was when we saw him early in the year. Guys,
Speaker 1: how many players could we say that about last year?
Speaker 1: How many players we say that about that played really
Speaker 1: really well. I think through the first ten, you know,
Speaker 1: eleven weeks of the season and then all of a sudden, bam.
Speaker 1: It's just it's seems so consistent. Marco Wilson was somebody
Speaker 1: we were talking about in the last Beautiful part of
Speaker 1: the program. Isaiah Simmons. Guys, Isaiah Simmons. I thought there
Speaker 1: were some people that were pointing to Isaiah Simmons saying
Speaker 1: he might be the most improved Arizona Cardinal on the
Speaker 1: team and and Byron Murphy as well was getting a
Speaker 1: lot of accolades. It was across the board. David, this
Speaker 1: is the thing that is just so perplexing to me
Speaker 1: right now. Marco Wilson is a guy that I want
Speaker 1: to see step up. Isaiah Simmons is a guy that
Speaker 1: I want to see do that. And let me just
Speaker 1: say this, my sleeper, Antoine Wesley that I'm serious. I
Speaker 1: think he could be ray J. Green. Wow. We can't
Speaker 1: let Dave peshco without a thought on the NFC West.
Speaker 1: And I just I happen to see some comments earlier
Speaker 1: in the week from Tim Hasselbeck, brother of Matt Hasselbeck,
Speaker 1: longtime Seattle Seahawks quarterback. And when Tim Asselback goes on ESPN,
Speaker 1: I think it was Tuesday morning and he says, and
Speaker 1: I quote, I think Russell Wilson has played his last
Speaker 1: down as a Seahawk, And the graphic below him the
Speaker 1: lower third reads out a quote from earlier from Tim
Speaker 1: Asselback that Russell Wilson wants out and I think the
Speaker 1: Seahawks would be happy to move him. Quote end quote
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Russell Wilson perhaps being on the moving
Speaker 1: out of the NFC West. Oh, I'm sure he wants out,
Speaker 1: but if you're Seattle, you know you're giving up a
Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer. You got to make sure that
Speaker 1: you're getting a legitimate quarterback in return. And I'm not
Speaker 1: going to rely on a rookie, meaning I'm not going
Speaker 1: to trade Russell Wilson for a bunch of first round
Speaker 1: picks and go you know, three and fourteen this year.
Speaker 1: So I mean that could obviously change the landscape of
Speaker 1: the entire NFL if Russell Wilson has traded, especially if
Speaker 1: it's somewhere else in the NFC San Francisco. I think
Speaker 1: we saw that, you know, Jimmy G right now at
Speaker 1: least is your best option. That's why I thought they
Speaker 1: should have drafted Kyle Pitts last year instead of Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: I still don't think Jimmy g is good enough to
Speaker 1: get you a Super Bowl, but he's obviously good enough
Speaker 1: to win some playoff games and put you in position.
Speaker 1: And then the Rams, I think there's the unknown still
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald and Sean McVeigh on whether those guys
Speaker 1: come back and you know, they run it back one
Speaker 1: more time, and Matthew Stafford too. But you know, the
Speaker 1: Rams were not the best team in the NFL for
Speaker 1: most of the season, and they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So I still think the NFC West, given what I
Speaker 1: expect how I expect the Cardinals to be next year,
Speaker 1: I still think you're going to have three of the
Speaker 1: top nine or ten teams in the entire NFL being
Speaker 1: in the NFC West and at San Francisco, Arizona in
Speaker 1: La Paulie, did you say Russell Wilson was going to
Speaker 1: leave the NFC West? Is that what you said, Paul
Speaker 1: That's what Tim Hasselbeck said. Do you know what I
Speaker 1: love Tam right now? Can we make that happen? Tim?
Speaker 1: Somehow someway? Can we get Russell Wilson out of the
Speaker 1: NFC West. That's fine. I got no problem with that
Speaker 1: in terms of San Francisco and who might actually be
Speaker 1: a good fit there. Boy, there's a lot of smoke
Speaker 1: out there about Carson Wentz right now, isn't there. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of smoke, and a lot of it seems
Speaker 1: pretty logical. I think that is a transition quarterback. If ever,
Speaker 1: there was a transition quarterback and a guy that can
Speaker 1: do both the old and the new offensive schemes that
Speaker 1: I think Kyle Shanahan wants to blend, and then maybe
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to go to Trey Lance immediately. You
Speaker 1: know who wants that gig as a transition quarterback with
Speaker 1: the Niners. Tom Brady. Tom Brady, you can't tell me
Speaker 1: doesn't want that gig and go back to his hometown team.
Speaker 1: He was sitting in the stands for the catch by
Speaker 1: Dwight Clark from Joe Montana in the eighty one NFC
Speaker 1: Championship Game win against the Cowboys. You can't tell me
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady wouldn't want to be that transition guy
Speaker 1: back to Niners. Tommy, I'm telling you he's done, Paul.
Speaker 1: He's not retired, Paul. Not only is Russell Wilson not
Speaker 1: leaving this season. I'm with Dave. I don't think you
Speaker 1: could see Tom Brady with a ford of Niners in
Speaker 1: this division. You want the sec of the NFL. It's
Speaker 1: coming before we let David got buddle. Are you gonna
Speaker 1: tell me you think Tom Brady's coming back to I
Speaker 1: think it's a viable possibility. I do. I think it's possible.
Speaker 1: I do, I do. I think it's what Yeah, So wait,
Speaker 1: a minute. Tom Brady is literally going to use his
Speaker 1: family is the reason why he wants to retire and
Speaker 1: then go back on it. We've seen We've seen guys
Speaker 1: make a decision in other sports or as coaches and
Speaker 1: then five months, six months later change their mind. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about it. It's still late February training camps a
Speaker 1: long way off. If Tom Brady August versus I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play and there's and they find a place for him
Speaker 1: to play, and where is he gonna play and which
Speaker 1: he play with? I could definitely see that out. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness. I mean, Brett Farbe did it like four
Speaker 1: off seasons in a role he did. Brett Farbe never
Speaker 1: used his family as to why he was going to retire.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady did his kids. All he has to do is,
Speaker 1: like Dave said, four months from now, I changed my mind,
Speaker 1: come back the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Why you get away
Speaker 1: from Bruce Arians, Why would you want to go somewhere else?
Speaker 1: If you're Tom Brady, you've you've been to the Bill
Speaker 1: Bella checks up the world. Well, there's one box he
Speaker 1: hasn't checked in his career walk and that's to play
Speaker 1: for the team he grew up rooting for him. Well
Speaker 1: he's retired. By the way day, Missus Novella checking way
Speaker 1: go watch man in the arena. I think he misses
Speaker 1: coach and that type of admir We gotta let Dave
Speaker 1: pashco He's got to mentally prepare for a gig tomorrow
Speaker 1: night with Bill Walton. So all the best with that, Dave,
Speaker 1: all right, David, all right, all right, we'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll get into this and we'll get into Rondale Moore
Speaker 1: Wilson number one kick for a guy to approve next year.
Speaker 1: Next on the Big Red Rage, Maurice Drink drop back
Speaker 1: in trouble, flushed out, moving left, fires it Dan left
Speaker 1: side a jump ball. It's caught on the near sideline,
Speaker 1: but they say out of bounds. Boy, rondel More, just
Speaker 1: a heck of a catch, man, he was interfered with.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they didn't call tass interference. Boy
Speaker 1: did he catch it? The wolf? The ruling on the
Speaker 1: field has been changed to a catch pull. It takes
Speaker 1: it out. They team for ruling on the field to
Speaker 1: a catch. What an incredible where I mean, you got it?
Speaker 1: That's as good as it gets. I cannot even believe
Speaker 1: what I just saw on replay. They got some filthy
Speaker 1: dudes naked place. I mean, Rondelle Moore that catch. That
Speaker 1: is one of the sickest plays I have seen. And
Speaker 1: we're talking about a rookie wide receiver. That toe tap
Speaker 1: against the That was the degree of difficulty on that.
Speaker 1: And look, well, if you spent a decade in the NFL,
Speaker 1: you know the same players, no players. And it was
Speaker 1: in training camp. It was about ten days, two weeks
Speaker 1: into training camp, and it happened more than once. I'm
Speaker 1: talking with a veteran, a respect a guy on the team,
Speaker 1: and he would interrupt the conversation and nod towards Rondelle Morey.
Speaker 1: Go see that kid, he can be he can be special.
Speaker 1: That already that kid, he nods that that kid can play.
Speaker 1: So players they identified it early in training camp. He's
Speaker 1: got all the potential. The question is, okay, can he
Speaker 1: get traction? And then he had some injuries, that ankle
Speaker 1: injury that nagged him the end of this season, sort
Speaker 1: of like it did the end of his college career.
Speaker 1: We get that, but then we both heard Shaun Jefferson
Speaker 1: and everyone heard him on the Big Red Rage last week.
Speaker 1: I'm curious as to your takeaways because it sounds like,
Speaker 1: according to Shaun Jefferson, they've already had that discussion about
Speaker 1: him maybe moving outside more, being down field more, and
Speaker 1: it sounds like his receiver coach definitely has confidence he
Speaker 1: can take that step. Yeah, there's no doubt. Poly and
Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson was also talking about this offseason, how critical
Speaker 1: it was going to be for Rondel More this offseason
Speaker 1: and the work he was going to be able to
Speaker 1: get in out on the field and expanding that route
Speaker 1: tree and running routes down the field, and how important
Speaker 1: it was going to be for him to develop that
Speaker 1: part of his game, not just horizontal but also the
Speaker 1: vertical part of it. Polly, it's so important. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you can tell me that you can line up
Speaker 1: Rondell More, I don't care if he's in the slaughter,
Speaker 1: he is outside and you run him over the top
Speaker 1: and you got the hop work in the short and
Speaker 1: intermediate stuff, something that he does very very well. Yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: that is going to be a nightmare scenario. Throw in
Speaker 1: one more you need one more wide receiver, Hey, Christian Kirk,
Speaker 1: Is that a possibility that c Kirk might actually come
Speaker 1: back and play. I don't know. I think somebody is
Speaker 1: going to step up and pay Christian Kirk, but Man
Speaker 1: eleven personnel is going to be a primary personnel group
Speaker 1: for the Cars. One back, one tight end, three wide receivers.
Speaker 1: That's when they were at their best through the first
Speaker 1: seven weeks of the season using that personnel group and
Speaker 1: rundown situation, and they were shredding the league. Here's Kyle
Speaker 1: Vannibosh on the Red Sea Report this week when asked
Speaker 1: about Rondel Moore and his near future. You know, I
Speaker 1: hate to make player comps, but you envision a Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill type of influence on this offense where he can
Speaker 1: catch a five yard route and take it to the house.
Speaker 1: But if you jump that route, he's going to go
Speaker 1: deep and he's going to be a threat down the field.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where his progression is going to
Speaker 1: go because he shows, you know, not quite that type
Speaker 1: of speed of Tyreek Hill, but he shows the similar
Speaker 1: type of abilities and the awareness and the ability to
Speaker 1: make people miss and the ability to stick his foot
Speaker 1: in the ground and gain yards in a hurry. Because
Speaker 1: what did so many teams do, especially the second half
Speaker 1: of the season they went with those two high safety
Speaker 1: shell coverage. Looks right. You gotta try and beat those
Speaker 1: coverages for some chunk plays and make him respect that
Speaker 1: and then open everything else up. I know, remember you
Speaker 1: talking about that wolfing. Yeah, that obviously could be a
Speaker 1: big key Rondale Moore, Yeah, pay, but wait, if they're
Speaker 1: gonna run those those two high safeties, you gotta run
Speaker 1: the ball and run down situations. You've got to run
Speaker 1: the ball. If they're gonna keep those safeties high, you
Speaker 1: gotta do it and then use the power of play
Speaker 1: action the throwing. By the way, Christian Kirk on Twitter,
Speaker 1: did you see the picture tweeted out of him on
Speaker 1: a double date with Bill's quarterback Josh Allen. Yeah, who's
Speaker 1: good friends with Kyle Allen who was good friends with
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk because they played high school ball together in
Speaker 1: Scottsdale then at Texas A and M, and they VOCO
Speaker 1: were with the same quarterback coach, Jordan Palmer, brother at
Speaker 1: Carson Balmer. So, Christian Kirk, I hope the Pills don't
Speaker 1: have enough cap room to sign him, Okay, agreed, Polly Yeah,
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