WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Ranking Positions Of Need

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<v Speaker 1>promise if you will to our listeners here to find

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<v Speaker 1>if at any point over the next hour we get

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<v Speaker 1>the sense Ron Wolflee is not prepared in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>If wolf shall we say, fails to inform and or

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<v Speaker 1>entertain during this splendicular addition to The Big Red Rage

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<v Speaker 1>starring Dave Pash. Momentarily, I am armed and ready here

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<v Speaker 1>with combine knowledge and notes, NFL combine information, stats, and

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<v Speaker 1>information so profound that it's guaranteed to boggle the mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So if any point, Wolf, everyone starts dozing off and

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<v Speaker 1>you're just boring the pants office, then you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Wolf, obviously you got nothing here we go

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<v Speaker 1>do Actually? I do, boy? Right now? I mean a bubble,

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<v Speaker 1>boy that you are right there? Your forehead one fit

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<v Speaker 1>in the bubble. JJ Watt and TJ Watter the only

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<v Speaker 1>pair of brothers who ever both win Defensive Player of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year honors. Did you know that each had the

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<v Speaker 1>largest hand size of any defensive player at their respective combine? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how about bad Polly? I'd love to see you know

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<v Speaker 1>what if that is the truth right there? What size

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<v Speaker 1>was it, Paul? Do you know? Was it like the

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<v Speaker 1>legendary eleven? It was? They both were eleven, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believed JJ was eleven and an eighth. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>are you serious? Do you know what your hand would

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<v Speaker 1>look like, Polly? Against that a size eleven hand of JJ's.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be I don't want any part of that matchup. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you do not wantsoever right there? In fact, did you

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<v Speaker 1>see jj Watt and the tweetie where he's holding the

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<v Speaker 1>gatorade can and somebody split the screen and compared it

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<v Speaker 1>to the old infamous picture of Andre the Giant with

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<v Speaker 1>a can of beer in his hand, And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that far off, I mean, by the way speaking, because well,

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<v Speaker 1>you are prone to giving us a lot of the noise,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the nonsense about hand size as we

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<v Speaker 1>lead up to the draft. Just allow you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got huge hands. Ball. Let you know that Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>had the smallest hand size among all quarterbacks drafted in

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<v Speaker 1>the first round since two thousand and three. Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>had the smallest hand size of any quarterback drafted in

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<v Speaker 1>the first since two thousand and three. So just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear you the hand size stuff between

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<v Speaker 1>now and the NFL drafts. Once again, though, Paully, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to understand there are norms, right, I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are standards that you're gonna look at and say the

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority, it's always going to be exceptions, Paully. You

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<v Speaker 1>know there's always going to be exceptions like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, having a fullback that's only two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two pounds. That was an exception stroke right there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always going to get the outlier on the combine numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the great thing about it because you just

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<v Speaker 1>in the end never know. So we're armed and ready.

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<v Speaker 1>We have more factoids on factoids from the combine, ready

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<v Speaker 1>to entertain as we lead up here to Dave Pass

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<v Speaker 1>joining us on this edition of the Big Red Rage Wolf.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you realize that earlier this week Tuesday, Tuesday not

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<v Speaker 1>only was a palindrome to twenty two twenty two, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it, Paul, it was also the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the window in which teams can designate players with a

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<v Speaker 1>franchise or transition tag dot dot dot. Do you anticipate

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<v Speaker 1>either one being used by your Arizona car You know, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about this right here, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to go ahead and tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what contracts are going to be redone, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>What contracts are you going to go ahead and condense

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<v Speaker 1>and free up some money? How much money will the

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals have when Steve Kim is ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>in free agency. That is the question that I have

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<v Speaker 1>right now. They're at the cap limit if you believe

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<v Speaker 1>all the websites, and the projected cap is two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>eight million and change, not exactly officially official, yet Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>are right there at about the cap, maybe eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>grand over if you do that. So then you start

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<v Speaker 1>looking at certain candidates and you're right, Well, if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at a guy like DeAndre Hopkins, who's annual salary

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<v Speaker 1>is going from twelve and a half to twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>million this coming year, or a JJ Watt from five

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<v Speaker 1>million to nearly sixteen million, Yes, a Buddha Baker from

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<v Speaker 1>seven point eight to fourteen point eight, even a Rodney

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<v Speaker 1>Hudson from two point nine to twelve point six. So

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<v Speaker 1>are these guys candidates to redo? And then if you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about perhaps a tag is at where Chandler Jones

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<v Speaker 1>might come into play. Pass Rusher to pass Rusher. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Vannenbosch on the Red Sea Report this week, just

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<v Speaker 1>on the decisions that are coming from Steve Kim and company.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of tough decisions and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it comes down to what does this team think they

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<v Speaker 1>can do in free agency and what positions do they

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<v Speaker 1>value the most in upgrading? So what what says you

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<v Speaker 1>on this front? And in particular, let's start with Chandler

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<v Speaker 1>Jones because the math has been revised. Apparently if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tag Chandler Jones, it's gonna cost you twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. Wow, Polly, I thought it was twenty million

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<v Speaker 1>for a franchise tag on the edge. That's what I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million point one. So obviously you've got new numbers

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<v Speaker 1>that I have not seen right now on a franchise tag.

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<v Speaker 1>But Polly, what about a transition tag possibility? What about

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<v Speaker 1>that the top ten at the position right there? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's something you could do. Give you the right of

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<v Speaker 1>first refusal because when you look at the pending free

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<v Speaker 1>agent class, there are not a lot of edge rushers.

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<v Speaker 1>There just aren't. There are going to be some receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>they're theoretically available. There are going to be some offensive

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<v Speaker 1>linemen that are potentially available in free agency that you

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<v Speaker 1>would be interested in. Not a lot of edge rushers.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know how it works, Wolf In the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>once you get your quarterback, it's all about protect quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And then get to the quarterback right, Yes, and minus

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<v Speaker 1>Chandler Jones the Cardinals, that's going to be a big

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<v Speaker 1>box to check if they don't bring him back. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right about that, Paula. Honestly, to a point so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about that this week. Is there anyway really?

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<v Speaker 1>What if they do slap the franchise tag on Chandler Jones? Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Chan is done. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Chandler Jones. I don't think they want to pay

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<v Speaker 1>him twenty million dollars a year. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I know they don't want to pay him twenty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year. But you know, honestly, if it's for

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<v Speaker 1>one year, I think it's more. It's something you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually do if you're Steve Kim in the Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, again, I want to see the best

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<v Speaker 1>for Chan. I want to see him go and be

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<v Speaker 1>happy wherever he plays, whether it's here or somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 1>finishing his career. But this is the way that it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a quality edge Russia rim. Because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see them slapping as transition tag on him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you think about Look, five of his ten

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<v Speaker 1>and a half sacks came in one game, we know that,

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<v Speaker 1>in the season opener at Tennessee. But he still had

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals in total pressures. He tied for the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>lead and turnovers cause by pressure. In fact, he was

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<v Speaker 1>tied with Marcus Golden in that category. And he did

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<v Speaker 1>it without that stud defensive tackle, that guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be Jordan Phillips. He did it without, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at Jeffrey Simmons. He did a while than Aaron Donald.

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<v Speaker 1>He did it without that guy a running mate where

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<v Speaker 1>they could do the t games you talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he got an inordinate amount of attention. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that. And so if you think about it, the

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<v Speaker 1>last time they tagged him, a month later they ended

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<v Speaker 1>up doing his long term contract extensions. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times when you tag someone, that's the catalyst to

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<v Speaker 1>get a deal done because the number is so huge

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<v Speaker 1>that coming season. Yeah, PAULI, No, there's no doubt about it. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>at the edge is a great place to start. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also think right now, man, I'm thinking of Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray and what the Arizona Cardinals have got to do

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<v Speaker 1>to continue the advancement of Kyler Murray and his career.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at offensive guard. I mean, offensive guard is

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<v Speaker 1>a position. Maybe you want to address this, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>own free agency if you can. The problem is, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to address it in free agency, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay through the nose. For the most part, PAULI, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a position, offensive line. There's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>out there that are looking for offensive line. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a position I think needs to be addressed at some

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<v Speaker 1>point in time. For me, for the most part, I

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<v Speaker 1>love getting an offensive lineman, an offensive guard that has

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<v Speaker 1>got some experience behind him, you know, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's the problem. Suddenly a guy has got some experience

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<v Speaker 1>behind him, has some tape on himself as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing well. Guess what people want to pay that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's the draft. The Arizona Card will say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, we're going to take the best guard a valible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a position I want to see address because of

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC West and who plays in the NFC West,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and also because Kyler Murray needs to be protective. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>two thoughts there. Number one, If you take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>look and I was looking today at some potential free

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<v Speaker 1>agent offensive lineman Mark Lewinsky in Indianapolis. Do you like

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<v Speaker 1>the Colts offensive line because their starting guard could be

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<v Speaker 1>out there? But to your point, you're probably gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay through the nose. Here's the other thing, getting

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Combine notes and knowledge, fifty eight offensive

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<v Speaker 1>linemen have been invited to this year's Combine. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>most since twenty thirteen. So that's definitely a loaded position

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<v Speaker 1>group offensive line. And we'll see where the Cardinals may

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pull out of that. We'll hear what

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Pasha has to say about what needs are most pressing.

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<v Speaker 1>Next on the Big Red Rage presented by Satan four

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<v Speaker 1>in Gilbert, Ah, I have yet to broadcast up. Well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an invitation here. You want to come to a

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<v Speaker 1>game with me sometime? What you're just a fan, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're a fan that had a podcast just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about football. And then I call in here and

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<v Speaker 1>we're already in overtime. Yep, because you talk so long

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<v Speaker 1>with that even get a question. So Ron Wolfley is

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<v Speaker 1>who I do the Cardinal games that there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that want to hear you and Ron

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<v Speaker 1>Wolfley on a broadcast. Wolfe, let's go already invited us

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<v Speaker 1>in with Werewolves of London. That can be arranged. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the next certain take from the Pash podcast. And let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you, if Dave wants a broadcast where he

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<v Speaker 1>really won't say anything, just get Walton and wolf Ley

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<v Speaker 1>together and guaranteed he'll have to be paid by the

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<v Speaker 1>word during that one. In fact, he'll probably say more

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<v Speaker 1>here tonight than he would during a three hour game broadcast.

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<v Speaker 1>As Yes, the voice of the Arizona Cardinals for the

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<v Speaker 1>past two decades is our special guest here on The

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<v Speaker 1>Big Red Rage, presented by Santanford and Gil We're Dave Pash.

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<v Speaker 1>How are we doing, Paul wolf how are we doing? Guys?

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing good man. Thank you, David, really appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>joining us right now. Do you want to rip Paul

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<v Speaker 1>right off the top? Do you want to do something? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing of the sort. You know, Aaron Rodgers. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>see where Aaron Rodgers yesterday said each quote just came

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<v Speaker 1>out of a twelve day cleanse where you're eating a

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<v Speaker 1>specific diet. And I'm thinking, you know what, Dave hangs

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<v Speaker 1>out a lot with Bill Walton, especially this time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been on a Bill Walton cleans of

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<v Speaker 1>any sort? Dave, No, No, you know he used to.

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<v Speaker 1>So what he does in terms of his pregame routine

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<v Speaker 1>is he has a large amount of protein that he

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<v Speaker 1>takes into his body, and he also eats about three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred energy choose. And he used to give something to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He is like this gel that he sucks on and

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<v Speaker 1>then he choose. He used to give me something. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't do that anymore, which is probably good because I

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<v Speaker 1>could never fall asleep the night after games with them,

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<v Speaker 1>because for him, these broadcasts are like Game seven of

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA Finals, merrying up for a battle. So, David,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're telling me he eats a ton of protein choose.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you say? Yeah? Protein bars? Oh my

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<v Speaker 1>good bars, a huge thermis that has like a chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>protein shake. And then he'll sit there and he'll eat

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<v Speaker 1>energy choose like you've seen the little cubes. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look like a little you know, jelly candy.

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<v Speaker 1>That he'll sit there and just down those. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>this other thing, this gel that he sucks on. It's hilari. David,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to be so thankful for the pandemic and

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<v Speaker 1>being masked up. I would imagine with the protein bars. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell Aaron Rodgers called his clans a quote a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of recentering that heals you physically and spiritually with meditation.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to get Aaron Rodgers and boll Walden together.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the conclusion there. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>for all the day Pass podcast you can go. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the latest one features Suns board and stand out mcale bridges. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that right, Dave? Yeah, we had mckel last week

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<v Speaker 1>talking about you know, the Suns and potentially winning defensive

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<v Speaker 1>player of the year, doing a little bit outside the

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<v Speaker 1>box here with that. And then this week we've got

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<v Speaker 1>George Klayoff cough and you're wondering who's that. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the new PAC twelve commissioner. He will be on this

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<v Speaker 1>week to talk about a lot of things, including the

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<v Speaker 1>college football playoff not expanding, which is you know, a big,

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<v Speaker 1>big topic right now in college football. Well, here on

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Rage, our big topic is the off

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<v Speaker 1>season and in a lot of ways, it really officially

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<v Speaker 1>ramped up and launched this week. Dave, do you expect

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<v Speaker 1>it to be inactive off season. A team that started

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<v Speaker 1>seven and zero ten and two lost five of their

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<v Speaker 1>final six. We all saw the ending. What sort of

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<v Speaker 1>offseason does that mandate? You think, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>stay competitive and dare I say, make a run at

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<v Speaker 1>playing in your building comes Super Bowl fifty seven, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it'll be active, Paul, and I think it starts

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<v Speaker 1>with resigning your key players. I would assume that James

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<v Speaker 1>Connor and Zach Ertz are at the top of the list.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, trying to figure out, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>free agents do we need to target, what trades do

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<v Speaker 1>we need to make? And then I think the draft

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<v Speaker 1>is your last tool that you use to improve your

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<v Speaker 1>team because you're you're that close. The draft is still important,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think these other things, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>case last year and really the year before. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've built your team. Now it's adding that piece that

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<v Speaker 1>can get you over the top. And you know, Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray has to be Kyler Murray from the first two

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<v Speaker 1>months for the Cardinals to get where they want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, adding pieces around you or trading pieces

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<v Speaker 1>to get better players can help Kyler get to that

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<v Speaker 1>next level. There's no doubt about it, David. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why, you know, if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the top three positions of importance maybe this offseason, if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys care to talk about that in regard to

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<v Speaker 1>what you think is your number one position, Polly, receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go a receiver. I'm gonna go flat out receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, you have DeAndre Hopkins, you have Rondale Moore

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<v Speaker 1>and TBA. And look, you had DeAndre Hopkins even when

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<v Speaker 1>he was healthy. Did you really have a legit number two?

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<v Speaker 1>You need that other outside guy and whether that can

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<v Speaker 1>be Rondale Moore, and we'll talk about that a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later, and we'll hear, you know, just about the

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<v Speaker 1>prospects of perhaps moving him outside and what could his

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<v Speaker 1>route tree be. But to me, receiver is just vital,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in this Cliff Kingsbury offense. And so whether that's feasible,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you can pull a trade, whether there's somebody viable

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<v Speaker 1>be a free agency, I just think that has to

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<v Speaker 1>be addressed because look at how the offense just dried

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<v Speaker 1>up in its productivity once you lost d hop Yeah, Polly, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>that really is that as a good answer right there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if there's any wrong answers. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this team does have an awful lot of needs.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, you're talking about Kyler Murray and protecting

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray. And because of that, especially in the NFC

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<v Speaker 1>West where you've got the likes of an Aaron Donald,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have got to do whatever you can

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<v Speaker 1>to shore up that interior offensive line right there, and

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, I would say offensive guard that is number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Now listen, I don't know, guys, do you get that

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<v Speaker 1>in free agency? This is something we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>PAULI in the last beautiful part of the program for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of minutes. Do you do that in free agency?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do that in the draft? I love this

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<v Speaker 1>Kenyon Green kid from Texas A and M. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen this kid? Six four three d twenty five pounds

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<v Speaker 1>Kenyon Green. I think he might be there at number

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, And based on what I see, he's capable

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<v Speaker 1>of playing in a zone scheme and a man blocking

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<v Speaker 1>scheme or a power scheme, dave position group what he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks most vital, most needed. Right now, I want all defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll explain why I think you know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>still get somebody in the draft on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got enough veterans there that you can get somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft that you can plug in play. But

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<v Speaker 1>they were pretty good up front for the most part

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<v Speaker 1>this year, and they had depth up front, you know, receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, PAULI. After de hop went down, they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't as good at that position. But you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>much of that, you know, is the offense as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>How much of that is Kyler wasn't as good, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know he has to adjust to d hop not

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<v Speaker 1>being there. It didn't seem like, you know, his numbers

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<v Speaker 1>obviously went down and things were not as easy for

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<v Speaker 1>him in terms of reading defenses when DeAndre Hopkins is

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<v Speaker 1>not on the field. Uh, you know Aj Green, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw that he's on the downside of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk almost had a thousand yards, So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you do there contractually with him and Rondel Moore. I

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<v Speaker 1>was curious why he wasn't as productive the second half

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, And again, how much of that is

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<v Speaker 1>the offense as a whole just wasn't as good without

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Hopkins and Kyler wasn't as good. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a defense. You know, the defensive line, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was disappointing. A corner they're young. Byron Murphy was great

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<v Speaker 1>the first half, wasn't as good the second half. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, inside linebacker, you know, at some point you

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<v Speaker 1>know whether it's going out and get somebody else, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean outside linebacker for that matter. You know, do you

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<v Speaker 1>bring back Chandler Jones at his age, given the money

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<v Speaker 1>that he's going to attract on the open market, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know your your draft picks. The last two years,

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Simmons took a step, He's got to take another step.

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<v Speaker 1>Zavian Collins has to be a factor. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're good enough if Tyler Murray is the

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<v Speaker 1>plays the way he did those first seven games, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get a second tight end at Max

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<v Speaker 1>Williams comes back that that was a key loss for

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<v Speaker 1>them the man. If Kyler plays the way he did

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<v Speaker 1>the first two months, I don't know that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to have an all star lineup around him, but you

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<v Speaker 1>do have to have better players on defense, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least those younger players that step up on defense. Voice

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cardinals Day pass our guest in the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Red Rage. I will see my next two position groups

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<v Speaker 1>after receiver, and we already talked about edge rusher to

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<v Speaker 1>start the show. But my next two position groups do

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<v Speaker 1>come on the defensive side corner and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>loss of Robert Alfred was underrated. It was underestimated just

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<v Speaker 1>how severe a blow that was to the Cardinals defense.

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<v Speaker 1>When Marco Wilson all of a sudden had to be

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<v Speaker 1>your number two corner down in and down out. If

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<v Speaker 1>you believe Pro Football Focus, he allowed a passer rating

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<v Speaker 1>of one thirty four in coverage. Marco Wilson is a

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<v Speaker 1>number three corner, you are a much better defense if

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<v Speaker 1>you can get a legit number one or number two

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<v Speaker 1>corner to go with Byron Murphy. And then the other

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<v Speaker 1>spot was a spot that Jordan Phillips was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>fill in free agency a couple of years ago. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's defensive tackle. And if you can have a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who can start collapsing the pocket from the inside, from

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<v Speaker 1>the inside out and or stopping the run, what was

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<v Speaker 1>it a half dozen times that Cardinals gave up a

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<v Speaker 1>buck fifty or more rushing? That was a problem, a

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<v Speaker 1>persistent problem, and if you can get that guy as

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<v Speaker 1>an interior d lineman, that's big. So those are your

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<v Speaker 1>two right there, Polly, those are your three altogether. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm gonna go number two. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>corner back. Listen, Marco Wilson. I'm bullish on Marco Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I understand the Pro Football Focus grade that

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<v Speaker 1>is out there right now. Here's what I know watching

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<v Speaker 1>him through the first ten to twelve weeks of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a different player the first ten to twelve

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of the season than he was to finish out

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Would you can agree with that? That? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering about that, Paul, Yeah, I seriously wonder about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how high the Arizona Cardinals coaching staff was,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the defensive side of the ball, on Marco Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>and Marco Wilson was holding his own and then he

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to hit a wall and we've seen it before.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not condoning it. I'm not saying, ah, there it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, Marco. It's okay. If you don't play well,

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<v Speaker 1>you hit the rookie. Well, No, I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>condoning it, But to me, maybe that's what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Wilson. I think offensive guard, protect Kyler Murray. I

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<v Speaker 1>think cornerback. You need a corner out there to go

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<v Speaker 1>with Byron Murphy and Marco Wilson, and hopefully you'll step up,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even sign Robert Alfred once again to a veterans

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<v Speaker 1>minimum contract and bring him back at thirty three. And

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<v Speaker 1>then my last room would be the tight end. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly this was at go back and look at

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<v Speaker 1>the tape. This was a completely different team through the

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<v Speaker 1>first five weeks of the season. Offensively, they play their

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<v Speaker 1>best when they had a two way tight end and

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<v Speaker 1>rundown situation. And Max Williams, Yeah, I mean, Dave, to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, if the Cardinals make zach ERT's a priority

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<v Speaker 1>and they spend the money, they retain zach Ertz, Max

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<v Speaker 1>Williams coming off a knee injury, a season, any knee injury,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's the market going to be for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's realistic that somehow, some way they

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<v Speaker 1>can retain both those tight ends for the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two roster. And if they don't, to Wolf's point, they

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<v Speaker 1>have to find another guy. They can do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's either in free agency or through the draft. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting somebody high that can be a weapon. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends you now are basically like receivers. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>find that guy that's a great blocker. But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to your guys point on Marco Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I put the defensive line as the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest area of need for me, because if your defensive

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<v Speaker 1>line is better, if you're getting more push up the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're getting consistent pressure off the edge, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>stopping the run up front, your corners are automatically better.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, they need to upgrade. They need somebody. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure Marca Wilson can't be a number one or

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Murphy can't be a number one there, They're just

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<v Speaker 1>their numbers weren't as good the second half of the

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<v Speaker 1>season because overall the team wasn't as good. So and

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<v Speaker 1>I include you know what I say, defensive line, I

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<v Speaker 1>include outside linebacker that you know, because those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>standing up, but they're on the line the entire game,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know. The Chandler Jones factor to me is

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<v Speaker 1>if okay, if you don't bring him back what's the domino?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's your number one guy there? And if it's not

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Chandler Jones, then then who is it? Are you prepared?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to pay somebody and those those guys

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>are expensive, but you know there is a risk with

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<v Speaker 1>Chandler Jones at this age to give him that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of money. Yeah, he's going to be thirty two this season.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he isn't in the fold and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get a guy in free agency because it's just too

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<v Speaker 1>darn expensive, and then is that too obvious come draft time,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your and then teams jump you in the draft

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<v Speaker 1>order if there is a viable edge rusher when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes your turn to pick. So and as far as

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>marcol Wilson, I'm with you guys. You know, Christian Kirk

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 1>told us something towards the end of the season on

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Rage, and it was, you know what,

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>when Marco Wilson did get beat, it's not like he

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>got roasted. He was competitive all the way through most

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>of the time. So you know, maybe it's just making

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<v Speaker 1>that jump from year one to year two and he

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<v Speaker 1>is a viable number two eventually, maybe even a number

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<v Speaker 1>one corner. In fact, that will be the question we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, which player do you think will make a

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<v Speaker 1>jump next season? Which player needs to make that jump

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>for the Cardinals to make a corresponding leap. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Rage with Dave pass all presented by

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Satan Pord to Gilbert. We are Satan Pord. It's a

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 1>fleet flinker pitching it back to Laurence. He's in troubles.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Jump bump pass picked up there side by Murphy at

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 1>the thirty running it back to the left of the

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty ten Fida fire Murphy after a horrible mistake by

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<v Speaker 1>the rookie with a pick six Henry off the left

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>side and he's dumped immediately, and it's Isaiah Simmons knifing

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>into the backfield to take him down. I want to

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.640
<v Speaker 1>play by Simmons. You want to talk about playing downhill.

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Simmons coming from the backside, making a play on

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:27.199
<v Speaker 1>King Henry's baby nigh trafficks on the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. For the ears of a Cardinals. We are

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<v Speaker 1>talking with the collective voice stairs and a Cardinals day

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<v Speaker 1>patch and Ron Wolfley here on the Big Red Rage.

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<v Speaker 1>Paully pencil Neck over here bringing you combine notes and knowledge.

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>You guys, speaking of Isaiah Simmons, you realize that back

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>in the day, with the combines starting next weekday, that

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Simmons when he was at his combine ran a

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>faster forty yard dash than the all time greatest return

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>man in the history of the NFL, Debon Hester. That

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Simmons ran a four three nine, and Devin Hester

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>at his combine once out of time ran a four

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<v Speaker 1>four three. So it's just then. Conversely, you realize Cooper Cup,

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>who just won the Triple Crown of receiving and a

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>ring by the way, and he was what four for

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>four with Matthew Stafford on the game winning Super Bowl drive,

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>ran the fourth slowest forty yard dash over the last

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<v Speaker 1>ten NFL drafts of any receiver taken in the top

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>three rounds. A four six two by Cooper Cup. And

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 1>look at it right now. Is there a better receiver

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>on the planet than Cooper Cup? Right now? Paul I

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>ran a four or five eight and a four or

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>five nine at the combine just for Walford, David, It's

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<v Speaker 1>in the books. Can you imagine that right there? He

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>had to Honestly, it just goes to show you if

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>you run routes well and know the road tree and

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:59.679
<v Speaker 1>in no coverage and know how to beat it, um,

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you can do well in this league, can't you well? Voice?

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I just finished watching Man in the Arena. I don't

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>know if you guys have seen that, Tom Brady. I

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>just watched the last episode and the big probably the

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the crux of the issue with the Patriots was finding

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that receiver that go to guy after Welker and after

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Randy Moss and guess who it was. It was a

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>guy they drafted I think it was like two hundred

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and thirtieth Julian Edelman who ended up winning Super Bowl MVP.

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>He was Cooper Cup before Cooper Cup. Right, wow, yeah,

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>that's good stuff. That's good stuff. All right? So look

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>who was that guy for the Cardinals this coming season?

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Who's that guy not named Kyler Murray that needs to

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>take the next step that you expect to that? I mean, Wolf,

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, name name let it please, please, please, please

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>please please. Saven Coin can't argue with that. I'd be

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>honestly right now, I just want to see Zaven Collins

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>step up. This is going to be great for him.

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>He's going to have the entire offseason. He's actually going

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to be able to work out at the facility. Of course,

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be able to watch tape. He's going

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to be able to go through the process. He's going

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to be able to just absorb everything that there is

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>about the National Football League. He's going to be able

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.719
<v Speaker 1>to study tape. He's going to totally be able to

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>get the checks down in his brain. He's going to

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>absorb this defense and then he's gonna go on and

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna take that body. He's going to stick that

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>body on somebody. And if you tell me that happens

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>right there, that's the one guy. I'll start with Zaven Collins, Dave,

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>what do you think? I'll start with Rondale Moore, And

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Wolf made a good point on you know,

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Zaven Collins, and we talked in the first segment that

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I was on about you know, the guys in the

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>back end that they need to step up and grow.

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Rondelle Moore. We saw flashes glimpses of this guy being electric.

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>And again, I don't know what happen the second half

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>of the season, and I think a lot of it

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>was just the trickle down from d hop not being there.

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>But I think if he steps up and he becomes

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a legit number two and you're telling me DeAndre Hopkins

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>is fully healthy, I think the Cardinals have a chance

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.479
<v Speaker 1>to take that next step because Rondel Moore fits the

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>mold of I shouldn't say today's receiver because there are

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>plenty of guys like DK Metcap that still look like

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the guys that you know, we're you know, the top

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>five picks, like Calvin Johnson, but you know a lot

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>of guys today are the smaller guy, the guy that's

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like Cooper Cup that kind of works in the slot,

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that can do different things, that makes the contested catch,

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that's tough after the catch. I think Rondel Moore has

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>a chance to be that guy well. And Sean Jefferson

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>was our guest at Cardinals Receivers Coach last week and

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>we brought that up, what is the future for Rondell Moore?

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>How much more can you get out of them? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of who like to compare

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 1>him to a Tyreek Hill, a poor man's Tyreek Hill,

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and we're not going to go there yet, but Sean

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Jefferson did say, yes, we can target him downfield like

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a Tyreek Hill. He does have that rout tree, he

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>does have that pot, but you have to move him outside,

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>right Wolf. I mean, it's that viable. Is that feasible? Hey, listen,

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hills scorches a lot of defense from the slot.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean watch Him'll line up in the slot, He'll

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>run up the field and then all the way across.

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>He'll run not a post, but all the way across

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the field. And it's one of those areas in which

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hill and Patrick Mahomes they tear up the league

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>on that route, the crossover corner, if you will, you

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>line up on the opposite side of the field and

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>run the corner. And they do that an awful lot

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>right there, trying to get him open vertically and horizontally.

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>You guys heard me say this last year going into

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Rondale Moore's rookie season. Man, that kind of speed right there,

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>he's got to beat him over the top. If you

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>tell me that he's beating these guys over the top,

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>He's getting vertical in his routes. And you can throw

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the ball down the field and he can catch the ball,

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>he can finish and hurt defenses. Man, it would be

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the best development for the Arizona Cardinals offense, not the

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>horizontal route, the vertical rounds. Speaking of development, I'm gonna

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>go with a couple of alignement. Zach Allen, who we

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:26.959
<v Speaker 1>learned after the year, was playing you know, the bum wheel,

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and he was dealing with an injury. He had some

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>really standout games. If he can maintain that sort of

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>consistency and be that reliable guy a three technique and

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>more versatile as well up and down that defensive line,

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>that would be huge. And then I'm gonna throw out there,

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Josh Jones the long term future of Kelvin Beacham. You're

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>already paying big money to DJ Humphrey's fifteen million a year,

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and guess what his contracts gonna be up after the

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>end of next season. You're gonna have to retain your

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>left tackle. Hit. His vital that you get a young

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>guy in a rookie contract who you could plug and

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>play at that right tackle position. And I think we

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>all learned if nothing else Josh Jones is he's not

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>a guard. I think twenty twenty one proved he's not

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a guard. He's a tackle. But can he be a

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>guy you can actually put in to the depth charting

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>count on him going forward. Yeah, that is a good

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I like that, PAULI, Yeah, I like it. I mean,

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you remember when the Cardinals drafted him, they thought, man,

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>we got great value with this kid. We had him

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>as a late first round pick. You got him in

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the third round. So now it's time for him to

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>play like that. And we saw a couple of games

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>where he did, and then that was about it. And

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I think we all wondered why he wasn't as good,

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, that last half of the season man as

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>he was when we saw him early in the year. Guys,

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>how many players could we say that about last year?

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>How many players we say that about that played really

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>really well. I think through the first ten, you know,

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>eleven weeks of the season and then all of a sudden, bam.

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's seems so consistent. Marco Wilson was somebody

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about in the last Beautiful part of

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the program. Isaiah Simmons. Guys, Isaiah Simmons. I thought there

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>were some people that were pointing to Isaiah Simmons saying

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>he might be the most improved Arizona Cardinal on the

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>team and and Byron Murphy as well was getting a

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of accolades. It was across the board. David, this

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>is the thing that is just so perplexing to me

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>right now. Marco Wilson is a guy that I want

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>to see step up. Isaiah Simmons is a guy that

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to see do that. And let me just

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>say this, my sleeper, Antoine Wesley that I'm serious. I

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>think he could be ray J. Green. Wow. We can't

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>let Dave peshco without a thought on the NFC West.

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>And I just I happen to see some comments earlier

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>in the week from Tim Hasselbeck, brother of Matt Hasselbeck,

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>longtime Seattle Seahawks quarterback. And when Tim Asselback goes on ESPN,

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Tuesday morning and he says, and

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I quote, I think Russell Wilson has played his last

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>down as a Seahawk, And the graphic below him the

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 1>lower third reads out a quote from earlier from Tim

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Asselback that Russell Wilson wants out and I think the

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Seahawks would be happy to move him. Quote end quote

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts on Russell Wilson perhaps being on the moving

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>out of the NFC West. Oh, I'm sure he wants out,

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>but if you're Seattle, you know you're giving up a

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>future Hall of Famer. You got to make sure that

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you're getting a legitimate quarterback in return. And I'm not

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 1>going to rely on a rookie, meaning I'm not going

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to trade Russell Wilson for a bunch of first round

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:47.479
<v Speaker 1>picks and go you know, three and fourteen this year.

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that could obviously change the landscape of

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the entire NFL if Russell Wilson has traded, especially if

0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 1>it's somewhere else in the NFC San Francisco. I think

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 1>we saw that, you know, Jimmy G right now at

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>least is your best option. That's why I thought they

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>should have drafted Kyle Pitts last year instead of Trey Lance.

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I still don't think Jimmy g is good enough to

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>get you a Super Bowl, but he's obviously good enough

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to win some playoff games and put you in position.

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 1>And then the Rams, I think there's the unknown still

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 1>with Aaron Donald and Sean McVeigh on whether those guys

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 1>come back and you know, they run it back one

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>more time, and Matthew Stafford too. But you know, the

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Rams were not the best team in the NFL for

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>most of the season, and they won the Super Bowl.

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>So I still think the NFC West, given what I

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>expect how I expect the Cardinals to be next year,

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<v Speaker 1>I still think you're going to have three of the

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<v Speaker 1>top nine or ten teams in the entire NFL being

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFC West and at San Francisco, Arizona in

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<v Speaker 1>La Paulie, did you say Russell Wilson was going to

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<v Speaker 1>leave the NFC West? Is that what you said, Paul

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Tim Hasselbeck said. Do you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>love Tam right now? Can we make that happen? Tim?

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow someway? Can we get Russell Wilson out of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC West. That's fine. I got no problem with that

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of San Francisco and who might actually be

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<v Speaker 1>a good fit there. Boy, there's a lot of smoke

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<v Speaker 1>out there about Carson Wentz right now, isn't there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of smoke, and a lot of it seems

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<v Speaker 1>pretty logical. I think that is a transition quarterback. If ever,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a transition quarterback and a guy that can

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<v Speaker 1>do both the old and the new offensive schemes that

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I think Kyle Shanahan wants to blend, and then maybe

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to go to Trey Lance immediately. You

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<v Speaker 1>know who wants that gig as a transition quarterback with

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<v Speaker 1>the Niners. Tom Brady. Tom Brady, you can't tell me

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want that gig and go back to his hometown team.

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>He was sitting in the stands for the catch by

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight Clark from Joe Montana in the eighty one NFC

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<v Speaker 1>Championship Game win against the Cowboys. You can't tell me

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<v Speaker 1>that Tom Brady wouldn't want to be that transition guy

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<v Speaker 1>back to Niners. Tommy, I'm telling you he's done, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not retired, Paul. Not only is Russell Wilson not

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<v Speaker 1>leaving this season. I'm with Dave. I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>could see Tom Brady with a ford of Niners in

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<v Speaker 1>this division. You want the sec of the NFL. It's

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<v Speaker 1>coming before we let David got buddle. Are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell me you think Tom Brady's coming back to I

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 1>think it's a viable possibility. I do. I think it's possible.

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I do, I do. I think it's what Yeah, So wait,

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. Tom Brady is literally going to use his

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<v Speaker 1>family is the reason why he wants to retire and

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<v Speaker 1>then go back on it. We've seen We've seen guys

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<v Speaker 1>make a decision in other sports or as coaches and

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>then five months, six months later change their mind. I mean,

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 1>think about it. It's still late February training camps a

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<v Speaker 1>long way off. If Tom Brady August versus I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play and there's and they find a place for him

0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>to play, and where is he gonna play and which

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<v Speaker 1>he play with? I could definitely see that out. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness. I mean, Brett Farbe did it like four

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>off seasons in a role he did. Brett Farbe never

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>used his family as to why he was going to retire.

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady did his kids. All he has to do is,

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<v Speaker 1>like Dave said, four months from now, I changed my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>come back the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Why you get away

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>from Bruce Arians, Why would you want to go somewhere else?

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're Tom Brady, you've you've been to the Bill

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Bella checks up the world. Well, there's one box he

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.319
<v Speaker 1>hasn't checked in his career walk and that's to play

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<v Speaker 1>for the team he grew up rooting for him. Well

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>he's retired. By the way day, Missus Novella checking way

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>go watch man in the arena. I think he misses

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>coach and that type of admir We gotta let Dave

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 1>pashco He's got to mentally prepare for a gig tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>night with Bill Walton. So all the best with that, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, David, all right, all right, we'll come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into this and we'll get into Rondale Moore

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson number one kick for a guy to approve next year.

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:12.879
<v Speaker 1>Next on the Big Red Rage, Maurice Drink drop back

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>in trouble, flushed out, moving left, fires it Dan left

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<v Speaker 1>side a jump ball. It's caught on the near sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>but they say out of bounds. Boy, rondel More, just

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a catch, man, he was interfered with.

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they didn't call tass interference. Boy

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 1>did he catch it? The wolf? The ruling on the

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<v Speaker 1>field has been changed to a catch pull. It takes

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<v Speaker 1>it out. They team for ruling on the field to

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<v Speaker 1>a catch. What an incredible where I mean, you got it?

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>That's as good as it gets. I cannot even believe

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>what I just saw on replay. They got some filthy

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>dudes naked place. I mean, Rondelle Moore that catch. That

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>is one of the sickest plays I have seen. And

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a rookie wide receiver. That toe tap

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>against the That was the degree of difficulty on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, well, if you spent a decade in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the same players, no players. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>in training camp. It was about ten days, two weeks

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>into training camp, and it happened more than once. I'm

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>talking with a veteran, a respect a guy on the team,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would interrupt the conversation and nod towards Rondelle Morey.

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Go see that kid, he can be he can be special.

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>That already that kid, he nods that that kid can play.

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:32.439
<v Speaker 1>So players they identified it early in training camp. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got all the potential. The question is, okay, can he

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 1>get traction? And then he had some injuries, that ankle

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>injury that nagged him the end of this season, sort

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>of like it did the end of his college career.

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<v Speaker 1>We get that, but then we both heard Shaun Jefferson

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and everyone heard him on the Big Red Rage last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious as to your takeaways because it sounds like,

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>according to Shaun Jefferson, they've already had that discussion about

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 1>him maybe moving outside more, being down field more, and

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like his receiver coach definitely has confidence he

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<v Speaker 1>can take that step. Yeah, there's no doubt. Poly and

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Jefferson was also talking about this offseason, how critical

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it was going to be for Rondel More this offseason

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and the work he was going to be able to

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>get in out on the field and expanding that route

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>tree and running routes down the field, and how important

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>it was going to be for him to develop that

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>part of his game, not just horizontal but also the

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>vertical part of it. Polly, it's so important. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can tell me that you can line up

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Rondell More, I don't care if he's in the slaughter,

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.919
<v Speaker 1>he is outside and you run him over the top

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and you got the hop work in the short and

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:40.879
<v Speaker 1>intermediate stuff, something that he does very very well. Yeah, boy,

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that is going to be a nightmare scenario. Throw in

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<v Speaker 1>one more you need one more wide receiver, Hey, Christian Kirk,

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a possibility that c Kirk might actually come

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>back and play. I don't know. I think somebody is

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.280
<v Speaker 1>going to step up and pay Christian Kirk, but Man

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 1>eleven personnel is going to be a primary personnel group

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>for the Cars. One back, one tight end, three wide receivers.

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>That's when they were at their best through the first

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 1>seven weeks of the season using that personnel group and

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:13.399
<v Speaker 1>rundown situation, and they were shredding the league. Here's Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Vannibosh on the Red Sea Report this week when asked

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<v Speaker 1>about Rondel Moore and his near future. You know, I

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 1>hate to make player comps, but you envision a Tyreek

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Hill type of influence on this offense where he can

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>catch a five yard route and take it to the house.

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>But if you jump that route, he's going to go

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 1>deep and he's going to be a threat down the field.

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's where his progression is going to

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>go because he shows, you know, not quite that type

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of speed of Tyreek Hill, but he shows the similar

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>type of abilities and the awareness and the ability to

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>make people miss and the ability to stick his foot

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>in the ground and gain yards in a hurry. Because

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 1>what did so many teams do, especially the second half

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>of the season they went with those two high safety

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.760
<v Speaker 1>shell coverage. Looks right. You gotta try and beat those

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 1>coverages for some chunk plays and make him respect that

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and then open everything else up. I know, remember you

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 1>talking about that wolfing. Yeah, that obviously could be a

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.359
<v Speaker 1>big key Rondale Moore, Yeah, pay, but wait, if they're

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna run those those two high safeties, you gotta run

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the ball and run down situations. You've got to run

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the ball. If they're gonna keep those safeties high, you

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:19.839
<v Speaker 1>gotta do it and then use the power of play

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<v Speaker 1>action the throwing. By the way, Christian Kirk on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see the picture tweeted out of him on

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a double date with Bill's quarterback Josh Allen. Yeah, who's

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 1>good friends with Kyle Allen who was good friends with

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk because they played high school ball together in

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Scottsdale then at Texas A and M, and they VOCO

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 1>were with the same quarterback coach, Jordan Palmer, brother at

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Carson Balmer. So, Christian Kirk, I hope the Pills don't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough cap room to sign him, Okay, agreed, Polly Yeah,

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