1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: From mahard of where Innovation, Money and Power Collie in 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley, NBN. This is Bloomberg Technology with Caroline Hyde 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: and Ed lud Love. 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm Caroline Heine, Blomberg's world headquarters. 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: In New York, and I met Ludlow in San Francisco. 6 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Technology. 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: Coming up. 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 4: We'll bring you the latest updates from the Israel Hamas war, 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 4: as fighting continues for a third day. 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: Everything we know ahead, and we'll. 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: Speak with technology executives who own and operate businesses in 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: Israel for thee. 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 5: On the ground and what it means for Israel's tech. 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 4: Sector, as we'll look at what heightened geopolitical tensions mean 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: for investors as markets face fresh volatility. 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: But first we will get you the latest updates. 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 4: Coming out of the Israel Hamas War. We want to 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: go to our water on the ground, remogs Gallett Alstein, 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: and is wonderful to have some time with you, Gallet 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: and just bring us up to speed with just where 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: you are and how it's all occurring at the moment. 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: What's the latest? 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, so actually we're seeing us some development here today. 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 6: I would say basically on three or four arm fronts 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 6: all slightly different than one another. So on the southern front, 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 6: where the attacks have been taking place since Saturday, we're 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 6: all seeing the area more contained. Quite surprisingly, there are 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 6: still infiltrations of attackers from Hamas from the Gaza Strip 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 6: into the Gaza vicinity inside Israel, but we're seeing a 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 6: lot less of that, and basically I would say that 31 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 6: the entire area over there is now under control in 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 6: that sense, in the sense of the infiltrations that we've 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 6: been seeing over the last two days, the communities and 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 6: the settlements that are very close to the Gaza offense, 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 6: about twenty four settlements or being evacuated at this time 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 6: of the residents. Another development we're seeing today over the 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 6: last few hours is on the northern front. It is 38 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 6: not major at this time, but that is something that 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 6: is definitely attracting a lot of attention because you know, 40 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 6: of the big questions now is whether Bala, on account 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 6: of Iran, will be joining in, you know, with with 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 6: the Gaza attentions and what is coming up there. So yeah, 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 6: so so so so that has been escalating, but but 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 6: a little bit. It's it's very it's very contained at 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 6: this time, and it's nothing major, but but but it is. 46 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 5: Happening, Jalit. 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: What has been the government response Prime Minister Nsna who 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: over the weekend had talked with the political opposition about 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: a wartime government across party wartime government. 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, so so that is still definitely on the tables. 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 6: There have been some talks to day between a team 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 6: on account of Prime Minister in Attaliao and teams that 53 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 6: are negotiating on behalf of opposition parties, mainly the party 54 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 6: led by opposition leader Benny Gantz. So so so they're 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 6: still talking talking about that. 56 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 7: We do not know where it's going. 57 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 6: It does look like there is a fair chance of 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 6: that happening, especially with with the complex situation in Israel 59 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 6: that has been very divided over the past few months 60 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 6: over a government proposed judicial overhaul. So now to form 61 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 6: a government, uh like that would sort of mean also, 62 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 6: you know, in the sense of public opinion that you 63 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 6: know Israel is putting all the differences aside and uniting 64 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 6: in the front against the Hamas. So so that is 65 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 6: still on the table and we're still waiting to see 66 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 6: developments on that. 67 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: All right, bloombergs gallet Austein, thank you very much. Let's 68 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: get right to it now with Target Global partner Shmiel Chafets, 69 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: who's joining us live from Israel, and Schmil, I want 70 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: to explain to our audience what they're they're looking at, 71 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: what they're about to hear. You are a venture capitalist 72 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: normally based in Tel Aviv, but overnight you've volunteered to 73 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: be a reservist by virtue of you being too old 74 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: to be conscripted. I think I'm right in saying, and 75 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: you have already been deployed. As best you can, just 76 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: explain what you're doing. 77 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: I think, unfortunately a muted thank you. 78 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, Unfortunately I'm a bit too old 79 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 8: to get called up to my usual unit. 80 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 7: But I did find myself. 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 8: Some something useful to do, and I've been doing it 82 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 8: since this morning, with many many others. 83 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: So Shmiel, you're avenge capitalist that invests in Israeli startups. 84 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: But I guess that the question this stage is why 85 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: have you done this? Why have you felt compelled to 86 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: put aside your day job and take on a deployment. 87 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 7: I think we're in a war. 88 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 8: This is a different situation than anything we've seen for 89 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 8: fifty potentially for seventy five years Saturday was the bloodiest 90 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 8: day in probably in Israeli history, Bloodier than any day. 91 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 7: In the Yom Kipoor War in the War of Independence. 92 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 8: Hundreds if not more of soldiers, but women, children, elderly 93 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 8: people were killed in their beds in what is undisputedly 94 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 8: Israeli territory. And I think, as in Israeli, it is 95 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 8: my duty to all of our duty to come and 96 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 8: protect our country this. I'm doing this for my kids 97 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 8: because this war will be a big part of determining 98 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 8: the country that they will live in. 99 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 7: And this will not be I don't think this is 100 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 7: going to be another operation like we've been accustomed to. 101 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 7: This is a war. 102 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 8: It is a war of different magnitude than what any 103 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 8: of us I think have seen in at least in 104 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 8: my memory. 105 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: Well, this is a story of people, of family, of 106 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 4: your children, as you cite. 107 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: This is a story also. 108 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: Of people trying to build economically, and indeed a time 109 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: that you are someone that wants to see a thriving 110 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 4: startup community, one which I think you have twenty four 111 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: portfolio companies. It's hard to talk about business in a 112 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: moment such as this, but how are you thinking about 113 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 4: what this does to an economy, to the people who 114 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: want to build. 115 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 8: I think that what we're seeing today in Israel is 116 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 8: the reason that Israel has been so successful as a 117 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 8: startup nation. 118 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 7: We're seeing hundreds of thousands of people. 119 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 8: Getting out of their lives, getting into uniform in moments, 120 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 8: and people have been just rushing into military service. 121 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 7: They're actually in most of the phone calls that I'm 122 00:06:59,320 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 7: getting there. 123 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 8: About people being turned away trying to find a spot 124 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 8: somewhere to go and fight. 125 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 7: And a part of this, this is the social cohesion. 126 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 8: This is the spirit of entrepreneurship that makes Israel successful 127 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 8: as a startup nation, is what we're seeing today. 128 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 7: I think this is an. 129 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 8: Integral part of Israel actually, and I think one of 130 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 8: the reasons that we will come out of this stronger 131 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 8: and better the fact that this is really a civic 132 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 8: society that knows how to how to also fight. And 133 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 8: many of our portfolio companies, the CEOs developers are now 134 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 8: fighting in different in different areas, and I think it's 135 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 8: the way it's going to be. 136 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 7: But when we get back to work, we'll get back 137 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 7: full force. 138 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 4: How are you using technology right now to inform yourself 139 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: to stay connected. 140 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 8: Well, luckily we have a good five G everywhere as 141 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 8: real as a small country, so we have the luxury 142 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 8: of being in a warzone. 143 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 7: It has good, good enough coverage to do a video. 144 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 5: Call as sure. 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: And on that No, I just remind our audience that 146 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: you're coming to us in military attire. You've volunteered for 147 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: a deployment, but you are a bench capitalist. You know, 148 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: you talked about some of the phone calls that you're getting, 149 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: be it friends or industry partners. 150 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: You have Israeli colleagues who. 151 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: Are working at Target but deploying capital in Europe, in America. 152 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: Do you think that any of your friends or partners, 153 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: or indeed portfolio founders will come from overseas abroad back 154 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: to Israel to join you in the initiative that you 155 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: are taking. 156 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think many are. 157 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 8: We've helped organize some planes for reserve soldiers who want 158 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 8: to get back, and then many people are crowding the 159 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 8: airport and the airport's trying to get back and help. 160 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 8: And also we're getting a lot of support from our 161 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 8: from Israeli, from our Jewish but also from our non 162 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 8: Jewish friends and colleagues. 163 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 7: In Europe, in the US in the Middle East. 164 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 8: We're offering condolences, support and help them. 165 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 7: So we're seeing a lot of outpart. 166 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 8: I think people do understand that this is a very 167 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 8: unique situation, probably once in a generation. 168 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: Sorry to interrupt you, Caroline summarized it completely right that 169 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: it's difficult to talk about business and operating right now. 170 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 3: But what happens to your portfolio companies? Can you deploy capital? 171 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: Is there a need to sort of deploy capital because 172 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: of the situation in Israel and helping those companies continue 173 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: to operate or are they able to continue with some normalcy. 174 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 7: So I think Israel is very good. 175 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 8: At continuing to operate normally in abnormal situations. And as 176 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 8: far as the portfolio companies are concerned, you know, everybody 177 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 8: have made arrangements to try to keep the businesses running, 178 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 8: to have a business continuity. You know, CEOs have been 179 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 8: called up, have been signing resolutions all morning, getting the 180 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 8: new signatories set of CEOs that have joined, and I 181 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 8: think we have definitely some people are now going to 182 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 8: join up and will continue to work, and our colleagues 183 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 8: abroad will come into work, so I think we will 184 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 8: be able to operate close to normal as close to 185 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 8: normal as possible. 186 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 7: Even during the war. 187 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 8: It's one of the things that happens in Israel because 188 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 8: we are unfortunately useless. It happens not in this magnitude 189 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 8: that has happened before. Our companies have plans for it, 190 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 8: and they'll continue to operate. 191 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: Business continuity, something unfortunately that you've had to understand and 192 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: prepare for. And to that note, we had, of course 193 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: galet Elstein on Elstein just a moment ago talking about 194 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: the divisions in internal politics of late within Israel. How 195 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: much has that affected business? How much has that affected 196 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 4: the flow of money coming into Israel of late, if 197 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: at all. 198 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 7: I think that. 199 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 8: It has affected, of course affected the Israeli economy. But 200 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 8: I think it's absolutely not the time to deal with 201 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 8: it right now is time for national unity. Now is 202 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 8: the time to put our divide behind us and just 203 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 8: to go to a fight. 204 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: Smill from a unity standpoint that there are many global 205 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 3: technology companies. Intel, for example, has twelve thousand people in Israel. 206 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 3: They've made commitments to expand their fab way for fab 207 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 3: manufacturing footprint there. But do you worry about the sort 208 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: of long term attitude that global tech players who do 209 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: have a really heavy footprint in your country. Now, now 210 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: take how they view Israel. 211 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 8: First of all, I hope they're view their commitment is 212 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 8: long term, and I hope they'll understand that Israel still 213 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 8: has a lot of unique talent to offer unique capabilities 214 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 8: in the tech space. 215 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 7: And I'm sure that once, once this ends, and it 216 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 7: may take some time, but it will end. 217 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 8: And we will win, they'll be back for force operating here. 218 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 7: As they have for many years. I mean, Intel's been here. 219 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 8: Through a lot and they've still thought it was worthwhile 220 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 8: to continue to invest and I'm sure they will continue 221 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 8: to do so in the future, as. 222 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: Will you have. 223 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: Of course, just been talking about the ecosystem. What makes 224 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: entrepreneurial spirit different in Israel? Do you worry about talent 225 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: the flow of talent? Do you ever concern yourself that 226 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: people aren't like you, that they don't return to deploy 227 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 4: money to make their headquarters within an Israel based business. 228 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 8: I want to tell you that I think when we 229 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 8: spoke last I think we talked a little bit about 230 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 8: the political issues in Israel, and I think there was 231 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 8: a flow of talent out of Israel. But I think 232 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 8: after this there'll be a flow of talent back, because 233 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 8: I think in the Israelis feel committed to this country, 234 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 8: and when it is in trouble, they return, and I 235 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 8: think there'll be a flow of talent back, not out 236 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 8: of this, not out of his room. 237 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 7: After the stands. 238 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: You're referring to the reaction to the judicial reforms and 239 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: the debate that that causing the country. Just very quickly 240 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: before we let you go, will you continue doing deals? 241 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 5: Target Global? 242 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: Will you continue with rounds that you had in the 243 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: works prior to the weekend's attack. 244 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 5: Will continue. 245 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 8: We have a big international team and our team will 246 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 8: continue to work as as normal. We have a great 247 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 8: team and a strong partnership. Will continue to work in 248 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 8: the well. Each do our well, each do our bit. 249 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 8: But we will continue and we're going to continue to 250 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 8: meet all of our commitments to every Israeli company and 251 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 8: continue to support our purporting throughout and at the same time, 252 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 8: we're going to give resources to support people who need 253 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 8: our help. 254 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, there are. 255 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: A lot of Smill chae Fetes, Schmill Chaffetes of Target Global. 256 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 3: We're very grateful for your time. You know, to our audience, 257 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: you're joining us on deployment. You volunteered as a result. 258 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: But your your day job is as a VC and 259 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: we thank you for bringing us that venture capital perspective 260 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: on literally on the ground. 261 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Caroline, thank you for having me 262 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 5: across the macro and the micro. 263 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 3: There's so much still to discuss, particularly on the market impact. 264 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 3: We have Tom Slater, who's head of US Equities at 265 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: Bailey Gifford joining us next on the program. This is 266 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Technology. 267 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: It is a day of geopolitical tension, is a day 268 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: of volatility that's heightened in the markets and the impact 269 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: that that has on or tech globally and indeed appetite 270 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 4: for risk. 271 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: But we're going to move into. 272 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: How the implications are testing investor appetite right now with 273 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: one key investor, Tom Slater, as head of US Equities 274 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: over at Bailey Gifford. And Tom, we want to go 275 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: broad with you and the holdings that you have and 276 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 4: the tactics that you deploy with Bailey Gifford. But on 277 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: a moment where we do see more of course, between 278 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: Israel at the moment and Hamas, how are you thinking 279 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: about that implicating some of the companies with which do 280 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: business in the area, and whether or not it does 281 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: change your sentiment on technology, writ large. 282 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 9: Well, I think it's obviously a dreadful situation, but actually 283 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 9: understanding what the long term implications of what's happening will 284 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 9: be is just going to take time. And so the 285 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 9: starting point from my perspective is that you just take 286 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 9: your time and ask the question what's really going on here? 287 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: And actually reacting trying. 288 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 9: To think you know better than the market and the 289 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 9: short run is not the right way to generate returns 290 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 9: for your clients. 291 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: Tom A question posed on Bloomberg Television throughout the day 292 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: has been defense stocks or defense technology stocks and how 293 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: much I guess of a knee jerk reaction it would 294 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: be to think about that as a sector. 295 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 5: What is your attitude towards event? 296 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 9: Well, I think we own no defense stocks as the 297 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 9: starting point, but I think you can see that there 298 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 9: is clear pressure for NATO countries to increase their spending 299 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 9: on this area. 300 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: You know that. 301 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 9: They have clearly been shortages in a number of areas 302 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 9: that is going to require a structurally higher level of spend. 303 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: So there is an interesting argument there. 304 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 9: But I think as you in the way you ask 305 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 9: the question about technology, I think one of the things 306 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 9: that we've learned in in Ukraine over the past eighteen 307 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 9: months is that actually things. 308 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: Have moved on a lot. 309 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 9: Whether we're at drones as an example of that, in 310 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 9: the way that wars have been fought. So actually, as 311 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 9: in most other areas, thinking carefully about how technology kind 312 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 9: of have transformational impacts is just as important in defense 313 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 9: as it is elsewhere. It's not about sort of taking 314 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 9: that top, top down view and making an allocation. 315 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: Tom. 316 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: Talking of allocation, we're looking at some of the key 317 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: holdings that you have. Of course, a trade desk shop 318 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: of I in Vidia, Amazon, I. 319 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: Mean in Vidia, of course an extraordinary. 320 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: Rocket ship to have been aligning yourself with of late 321 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 4: when that comes to elements of AI, but also geopolitically encircled. 322 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: When we think about it, it's exposure to China. How 323 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: do you discern which companys the ones which you want 324 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 4: to be seeing emboldening and indeed allocating money towards well. 325 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 9: I think if you stick with that example of Nvidia, 326 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 9: we bought the stock in twenty and sixteen and we've 327 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 9: been holders of continuously since, and the investment thesis is 328 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 9: around the application of their technology. And if you go 329 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 9: back to twenty sixteen. Yes, there's this opportunity in AI, 330 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 9: but it's also in the data center, in self driving vehicles, 331 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 9: in ARVR, so a technology which has really broad application. 332 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 9: And then where you find a company that addresses such 333 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 9: a big opportunity, The question is really how do you 334 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 9: hold onto it? 335 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: Because yes, you take this. 336 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 9: As an example of one we've done well, and that 337 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 9: in that intervening seven years, it's actually been a really 338 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 9: quite difficult stock to hold on to. I think the 339 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 9: peak to trough decline from twenty one to twenty two 340 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 9: was sixty six percent. So how do you endure losing 341 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 9: two thirds of your money through that period of ownership? 342 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: And that is. 343 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 9: Really about hold discipline. You know, the market likes to 344 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 9: talk about sell discipline. Why do you sell a stock 345 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 9: that always seems back to front to me? I think 346 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 9: the discipline is in being able to own it through 347 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 9: those difficult periods where your investment thesis, where your assessment 348 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 9: of the upside is unchanged. And so that's I think 349 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 9: the crucial characteristic of the way that we invest on 350 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 9: behalf of our. 351 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: Clients, Tom and Caroline. A piece of news overnight by 352 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 3: the way Nvidia canceled its AI summit which have been 353 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: scheduled for October fifteenth and sixteenth in Tel Aviv, and 354 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: Jensen Huang was due to give a keynote. So just 355 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: sort of updating our audience on there makes you think 356 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: about supply chain. Let's go back to Israel, Tom. You 357 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: know Intel had talked about expanding way for fab operations there. 358 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: There's talent there. On Autonomy mobilized its biggest company by market. 359 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 5: Cap or US listed. Is there a supply chain story here? 360 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 9: Well, I think that the big supply chain story in 361 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 9: semiconductors has really been driven domestically in the US with 362 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 9: the inflation reduction acts, and what I observe is a 363 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 9: huge amount of investment now going in into this crucial 364 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 9: and particularly sensitive area to drive a much more. 365 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: Local supply chain. And I think that's it's much. 366 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 9: More complex than just adding capacity because there's there's all 367 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 9: the training and upskilling that you need to do to 368 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 9: because of that. But I think this is what the 369 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 9: of the events of the past few days are just 370 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 9: another example of why that is so important. 371 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Strategically for the US. 372 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 9: And then it's thinking through, well, who are there, who 373 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 9: are the beneficiaries there, who are the ones that can 374 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 9: actually enable that policy. Because when there is so much 375 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 9: investment going in, it's always interesting to follow the money. 376 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 9: Where are the opportunities being created? And I think domestically 377 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 9: in America that's that's one of that's really interesting. 378 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: Tom Slater, Belly Gifford. We follow the money here on 379 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Technology as well. Thank you for your time. 380 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 4: Well, amid the start of Israel Hamas War, historic meeting 381 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: occurred actually in China between President hy Jumping and Buy 382 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 4: Batteris and group of US lawmakers that by Senate Majority 383 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: Leader Chuck Schumer. Let's get more context, Kaylee Lines standing 384 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 4: by in Washington, and Israel was discussed. 385 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 10: It was Chuck Schumer, the Senator Democratic Majority leader, pushed 386 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 10: China to strengthen their language around what Hamas had done 387 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 10: in Israel. 388 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: He said. 389 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 10: He pointedly asked them to do so, and they did 390 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 10: indeed strengthen their segment statement. 391 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: But that isn't all that this visit was about. 392 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 10: It also was really about economics. Chuck Schumer in this 393 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 10: meeting with shijhiin Ping, the first time Shiji Ping has 394 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 10: met with US senator since twenty fifteen. Mind you said 395 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 10: that this really was about ensuring economic reciprocity, and he 396 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 10: said that they feel China must provide a level playing 397 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 10: field for American companies and workers, echoing what we've heard 398 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 10: from the Lakes of Commerce Secretary Gina Ramondo. 399 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 11: All right, Bloombo's Katie lines out of DC, thank you, 400 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 11: welcome back to BlueBag Technology. 401 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: I'm Canninehid in New York and. 402 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 5: I med love Low in San Francisco. 403 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: And let's just get up to speed with some of 404 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 4: those headlines at Israel. Hamas Woll we want to bring 405 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 4: on a BlueBag national security report to Nick Wadams. Many 406 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 4: shocked by the surprise with which this took Israel and 407 00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: the nation and the world. 408 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: But what is the latest headlines that are capturing your attention? 409 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 12: Well, the big ones really are so obviously you have 410 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 12: Israel going on the offensive in Gaza, calling up three 411 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 12: hundred thousand troops. I mean, we are looking at a 412 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 12: full mobilization by Israel to neutralize the threat coming from 413 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 12: Gaza amid new missile strikes and continued violence. But you know, 414 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 12: there are already bigger questions being asked, chiefly among them, 415 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 12: how did Israel not see this coming? 416 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 5: I mean, when you have. 417 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 12: Five thousand missiles or so being shot into Israel. Where 418 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 12: were the intelligence services in terms of seeing these missiles 419 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 12: being put into place? How did they not detect the incursion? 420 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: That when? 421 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 12: And there was that big massacre and then all the 422 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 12: hostage taking, and then you're starting to see the issue 423 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 12: of Okay, now Hamas has these hostages, So what happens 424 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 12: next in terms of negotiations to try to secure their release. 425 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 12: So we are very much still in the early days 426 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 12: of this thing, trying to see where it will head. 427 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 12: But obviously some of the big questions already being asked 428 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 12: on how it happened in the first place. 429 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to have a former deputy National Security Advisor 430 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: of Israel joining us a little age from the show, Nick, 431 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 4: But I'm interested in the broader ramifications the other proxy 432 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 4: wars that potentially have sparked. I don't want in any 433 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 4: way theorize that that's what's occurring. But what are you 434 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: thinking about what this ripple effect is? 435 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 12: Well, the big question obviously is Iran. There's a lot 436 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 12: of talk that Iran gave the green light to this operation, 437 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 12: but there are bigger questions being asked to about the 438 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 12: extent of their involvement, how detailed their involvement was, and 439 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 12: then you know the broader issue of normalization. The US 440 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 12: has been pushing the interests of normalization between Israel and 441 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 12: Saudi Arabia. What's the future of that conversation. We are 442 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 12: hearing that players in the regions such as UAE, Bahrain 443 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 12: and others are determined to press ahead with the Abraham 444 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 12: Accords that were signed under former President Trump, and there 445 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 12: has been some momentum, but you know, one source telling me, 446 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 12: you know, it's going to be messy, but we are 447 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 12: determined to see that go ahead. So there is the 448 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 12: question then of what is the backlash against Hamas if 449 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 12: this is going to bring folks together in the region 450 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 12: and say, okay, we want to continue with this, or 451 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 12: is it going to cause that to splinter. And right now, 452 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 12: at least it looks like there is some momentum to 453 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 12: try to keep those conversations on track, but obviously again 454 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 12: very early days. 455 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 11: Nick. 456 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: A technology story is the defense system that Israel deploys, 457 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 3: which is iron Dome, and I think I'm rightly saying 458 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: that Israel has made a request of the United States 459 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 3: to help resupply them with munitions for Iron Dome. What 460 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 3: is the latest there. 461 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 12: Well, we know that Congress was briefed by the administration 462 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 12: on this, and there is obviously broad bipartisan support to 463 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 12: make sure that Israel gets all of the munitions that 464 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 12: it needs to keep Iron Dome resupplied. But you know, 465 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 12: there are other needs that Israel has, such as artillery 466 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 12: munitions and precision guided weaponry. So the question then there is, 467 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 12: well what does this mean for the Ukraine War. 468 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 5: There's a lot of talk that stocks were. 469 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 12: Running low for Ukraine and allies were scrambling to come 470 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 12: up with supplies to keep the Ukrainian Army with the 471 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 12: munitions that it needs. So it's not really a question 472 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 12: of funding, but there is going to be a question 473 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 12: of supplies, and obviously the Administration's focus in the immediate 474 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 12: term is on Israel, and everybody's trying to sort out, Okay, 475 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 12: well what does that mean for Ukraine, especially in the 476 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 12: long run, So you know we're going to be pressing 477 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 12: away and trying to figure out those questions. But certainly 478 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 12: a tension there between the needs from both Israel and Ukraine. 479 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Nate Wadams all across the national security story around this, 480 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: thank you very much. Let's go back to technology and 481 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: what is happening on the ground in Israel. Joining us 482 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: now is Papaya Global CEO one of the founders, Ana Goez, 483 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 3: And just in the first instance, you run one of 484 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 3: Israel's most valuable startups. You have a big footprint in 485 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: the country. What is it that you're doing right now? 486 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 3: Are your people safe and how have you responded to 487 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: the events of the weekend. 488 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 13: Yeah, thanks a lot for having me as well. I mean, 489 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 13: honestly seece Saturday, which was a holiday for us as well. 490 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 13: We are all full time serving the country first and 491 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 13: assuring that we can support everything the country needs in 492 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 13: terms of the efforts. It's important to understand that this 493 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 13: is not a regular situation as we sometimes face in Israel. 494 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 13: We are facing terror currently, it's our on nine eleven, 495 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 13: we are eventually facing our own isis our. 496 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: War against the Homas. 497 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 13: Everything that we are doing on the tech sector, quite 498 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 13: on the civilization kind of stage, is helping people that 499 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 13: lost their houses, Helping people that eventually have family members' 500 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 13: kids that has been taking hostages, helping soldiers to get 501 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 13: to their base, helping everything that we can, raising funds, 502 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 13: helping logistics. I mean, the civil efforts currently in the 503 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 13: country are enormous, are amazing, and this is mainly. 504 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: What we're doing. 505 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 13: This is our day job, unfortunately since yesterday, and this 506 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 13: will probably win our day job until things go back 507 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 13: to track. 508 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 4: And we had a benchure capitalist from Target Global joining 509 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 4: the top of the show saying, unfortunately, you know, Israeli 510 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: is often are able to be prepared for these sorts 511 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 4: of situations. You say that this is an unpresent at 512 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: the moment for you. But having been founding your business 513 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 4: back in twenty sixteen, I understand you got seven workers globally, 514 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 4: but how many of them are based in Israel and 515 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 4: what sort of business continuity preparedness do you have when 516 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: you are building businesses within Israel. 517 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 13: So first, we have about one thousand employees in Papaya, 518 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 13: about three hundred of them are currently based in Israel. 519 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 13: I would say that about currently fifty or sixty of 520 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 13: them have been called to military service, and quite a 521 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 13: lot of them have family members, kids or spouses that 522 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 13: has been called military service. Obviously, I mean, as any 523 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 13: other company in Israel, we always have contingency plan. I 524 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 13: think that the state of every Israelid founder is to 525 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 13: assure that we always have plans for the following day, 526 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 13: We always know how to operate, and honestly, I mean 527 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 13: we get an amazing support currently from our workers around 528 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 13: the globe, from our clients around the globe, in order 529 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 13: to assure that the business operation is going as normal. Unfortunately, 530 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 13: you know, especially in Papaya, we have also team in Ukraine, 531 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 13: so we've been in a way kind of trained to 532 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 13: take over their responsibilities about a year. 533 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: And a half ago. 534 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 7: Now they are the one. 535 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 13: Feeling the needs for us and eventually kind of taking 536 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 13: responsibilities from us. People in Israel are highly motivated, highly engaged. 537 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 13: I see people are answering their emails during the day, 538 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 13: during the night. But honestly, I mean our hearts currently 539 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 13: in our mind is first taking care of the country, 540 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 13: taking care of the people around us. Israel is a 541 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 13: small country, is a small population. I have to say 542 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 13: that I don't think that the death and the whrror 543 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 13: will pass any single any single family in this country 544 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 13: these days, and this is a heartbreaking, honestly days horrible 545 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 13: days for Israel. 546 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: And I'm sure that the audience share that with you. 547 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 3: One of the reasons we asked you to come onto 548 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: the program. Is that prior to the events of the weekend, 549 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: you have been vocal about the judicial reforms in Israel 550 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: and asking questions about what it meant for the technology 551 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: sector long term. I believe you took some action moving 552 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: company assets out of Israel in response to the judicial reforms. 553 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 5: My question is what will you do next for. 554 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: The operations of your business based on the weekends events? 555 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: Do you intend to remain in Israel going forward? 556 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 13: Yes, asy as our armies ray as our country. As 557 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 13: we did in the last year, we always said that 558 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 13: eventually we want to keep Israel a democratic country in 559 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 13: order to assure that we can actually grow our business here, 560 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 13: not to take it out of Israel. We are very 561 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 13: proud of Israelis. We want to build Israeli companies. Obviously, 562 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 13: we always build all companies. It's because Israeli is such 563 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 13: a small market anyhow, and we always have global footprints. 564 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: But nothing will change. 565 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 7: In terms of our operation in Israel. 566 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 13: We are here currently to do a very big efforts 567 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 13: to fight for the freedom of this country, to bring 568 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 13: things to normal. To obviously that leave the day after 569 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 13: after those horror kinds of events and news and tons 570 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 13: of death and people that have been lost in the 571 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 13: last few days, but it does not affect us from 572 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 13: being an Israeli eventually kind of a business and a company. 573 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 7: And moreover, I do. 574 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 13: Hope that the day after this terror will go back 575 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 13: and people will understand that the most important thing in 576 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 13: is Well is for us to be unite, is for 577 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 13: us to remain a democratic country and to stop the 578 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 13: internal conflict that has been cheering this country for so 579 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 13: many months internally, and it's time to just eventually put 580 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 13: them aside and go back to normal. I mean, we 581 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 13: are one nation and I think everybody understand that we need. 582 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: To be unite. 583 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for sharing your story, for really 584 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: making the human side marry with what it is your 585 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: longtime vision abuilt within Israel. 586 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: PAPAA glob We'll see you. We thank you in it. 587 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: Go as, stay stay ed, A lot mores come here 588 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 3: on Bloomberg Technology. 589 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 5: We'll have more headlines. 590 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 3: From the sector, a big interview as well coming up. 591 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 5: This is Bloomberg. 592 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 4: Technology another Amazon Prime Day, Big Deals Day. It's cool 593 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 4: and the tech giant is planning to bring customers the 594 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 4: right deals and faster. 595 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: And that's no easy task. We took a look at 596 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: just how they're doing that. 597 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 14: This Prime Day is getting more personal, so expect to 598 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 14: see more deals based on your shopping history. Amazon says 599 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 14: these kind of personalized deals led to all times more 600 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 14: cust engagement during the last Prime Day, so for this sale, 601 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 14: Amazon is doubling down with the help of larger, more 602 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 14: advanced AI algorithms, learning what customers are shopping for and 603 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 14: predicting what they'll want next. Amazon is also trying to 604 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 14: get your purchases to you faster. We visited a same 605 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 14: day delivery site in Richmond, California, about thirty minutes east 606 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 14: of San Francisco, to see how sites like these are 607 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 14: smaller than Amazon's fulfillment centers and located closer to larger 608 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 14: metro areas. This facility can pick an item and get 609 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 14: it boxed up in about eleven minutes, about an hour 610 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 14: faster than an traditional fulfillment center. That's thanks to the 611 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 14: help of these yellow pods and blue switches. They run 612 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 14: on items that are stored and cataloged electronically, making it 613 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 14: easy for employees to find the item and pick it. 614 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 14: That package gets sent on a conveyor belt to a 615 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 14: delivery sorting area of the site in a regular for 616 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 14: fillment center, that's an entirely different building. Here, there's just 617 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 14: a few steps away, so you can get the deal 618 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 14: the same day. 619 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: You order it. 620 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 5: The most popular. 621 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 15: Items delivered for same day sites are every day essentials 622 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 15: like batteries, air pods, and espresso coffee pods. Amazon plans 623 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 15: to build more of these smaller same day facilities in 624 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 15: the next few years to speed up delivery times. 625 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 3: Behind the scenes, I think we've got some good insight 626 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: into producer piles of various wish list for water bottles 627 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 3: and thermos flasks. Let's get right to what's happening on 628 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 3: the ground and bring in Jamil Ghani, Vice president of 629 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: Amazon Prime. You, Andy Jesse, other executives have been talking 630 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 3: a lot about regionalizing. Regionalizing fulfillment basically the idea that 631 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 3: the package that lands in your doorstep has come from closer, 632 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: traveled less. 633 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 5: Is it working that strategy. Yeah. Absolutely. 634 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 16: We've been very excited to see that it gets the 635 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 16: right product to the right customer faster than ever before, 636 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 16: and that package is traveling less distance, so we're able 637 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 16: to reduce that time from click to deliver, which our 638 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 16: customers love. 639 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 4: What's in herculean effort does that take, Jamil, I'm sorry, 640 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 4: what sort of effort, what sort of investment, what sort 641 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: of focus has that taken to just whittle down that 642 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: timeframe with which you can get your package to you? 643 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 16: Yeah, what we've done is make sure we have the 644 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 16: right inventory and the right build all around the country. 645 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 16: That we then make sure our site highlights that selection 646 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 16: that customers can get. We use recommendations and personalization, including 647 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 16: what we're going to be doing on the tenth and 648 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 16: eleven with prime big deal days, to make sure that 649 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 16: that product is highlighted to customers. And then the processes 650 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 16: in the fulfillment centers have been simplified. It's fewer over 651 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 16: the road miles, and so that's what's really the difference 652 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 16: of getting your packaged the same day. 653 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: And how much is that the focus of a consumer. 654 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 4: It's interesting that we're talking about rising competition, whether it's 655 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 4: coming from Timu, whether it's coming from China more broadly, 656 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 4: but some of those packages take time. Is that the 657 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 4: sort of winning formula to ensure that these new entrants 658 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 4: do take too much away from you in terms of 659 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 4: market share? 660 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 5: You know, I think it's a good question, but Our 661 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 5: focus is really on customer needs. 662 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 16: Prime started with a very simple promise, you know, a 663 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 16: million items available in two days, no limits guaranteed, and 664 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 16: that those expectations have only increase over time. I've got 665 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 16: two young kids at home, and I know when we 666 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 16: find that we're out of something, where we need something, 667 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 16: or we need to shop for that birthday happening tomorrow, 668 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 16: you just want to get from you know, need to 669 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 16: solution as quickly as possible. So that's what's really driving us, 670 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 16: and the same day facilities are taking that to the 671 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 16: next level. 672 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 5: You know, customer needs. 673 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 3: There is a question of whether one really does ever 674 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: need something. And this is really an AI machine learning 675 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: story because I assume that data is based on the user, right, 676 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: their habits, their. 677 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 5: Spend their history. 678 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 3: That's right, So how does personalization result in them actually 679 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 3: buying stuff that they haven't already bought before in the past. 680 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 16: The way we think about it is we want to 681 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 16: combine your purchase history, your browsing history, and then other 682 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 16: engagement you have on the site, like engagement with lists. 683 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 5: All of that information comes together. 684 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 16: We add shopping trends, you know, what's really relevant in 685 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 16: the season we're going into the holidays now, so Prime 686 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 16: Big Deal Days is pulling all that information together and 687 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 16: highlighting that selection. It's going to certainly highlight things that 688 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 16: we know customers are going to like based in their 689 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 16: past behavior, but we also intelligently want to surface up 690 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 16: those things that they might discover, they might like, and 691 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 16: might be inspired by. It's a combination of needs and wants, 692 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 16: which I think makes for a great shopping experience. And 693 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 16: that's what the event starting tomorrow is going to be 694 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 16: all about. 695 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 3: All things considered, the macro environment, the time of year, 696 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: because timing with Prime Windows has changed. How big will 697 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: this one be? Can you say with any confidence this 698 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: will be the biggest. 699 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 16: I can't ever predict how we'll go, but I know 700 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 16: that everyone is looking to Carolina and I no one 701 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 16: else is checking in. I think that we've got fantastic 702 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 16: deals and it will be the most personalized experience we've 703 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 16: ever had. Two or three years ago, we had one 704 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 16: personalized deal feeds. Tomorrow, our customers will enjoy forty different 705 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 16: personalized deal feeds. The homepage will be curated. Your homepage 706 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 16: will be different than my homepage. Will also be recommending 707 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 16: top brands. I mean might like four plus Star deal 708 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 16: events that you might like, and so I think what 709 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 16: you're going to find is that day felt really curated. 710 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 16: This is going to feel even more so in the 711 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 16: event starting tomorrow. 712 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: Jamie Oldarnie, thanks for the time, Vice President of Amazon Prime. 713 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 2: We thank you. We returned to our coverage of the 714 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: Israel Hamas War. Professor Chuck Frelick is a former. 715 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 4: Deputy National Security Advisor in Israel and wrote the book 716 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: Israel and the Cyber Threat, How the startup nation became 717 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 4: a global cyber power. And we are being asked time 718 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 4: and time again, Professor, how Israel missed this? 719 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 2: Was it a tech story? 720 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 6: No? 721 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 17: I don't think this was a tech story. I think 722 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 17: this is a classic case of the colossal intelligence failure. 723 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 17: It starts from, like all major intelligence intelligence failures, from 724 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 17: a failure of imagination. You don't believe that your enemy 725 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 17: has the capability to do something, and so you don't 726 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 17: see the signs when it's happening. 727 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 4: What could have been improved upon from your perspective, and indeed, 728 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 4: what will be being used now to assess a threat level? 729 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 17: Well, I think that there will be a deep investigation 730 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 17: of the reasons for the failure, But most of that 731 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 17: will have to remain after the war is over. What 732 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 17: happened here is just something unprecedented in Israel's history, where 733 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 17: Israeli territory was Israel itself, not the West Bank Settlement, 734 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 17: Israel itself was occupied for a while a britief while 735 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 17: and people take in hostage. This cannot be allowed to 736 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 17: happen and will have to take measures to make sure 737 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 17: it doesn't. It's going to be a protracted and unfortunately 738 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 17: bloody war in Gaza, but it's one that Israel has 739 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 17: to end this time, I think with a resounding victory. 740 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 17: It can't be just a basis for some more time 741 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 17: until the next round. 742 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 2: Our time is too short with you. 743 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 4: But if you go back to your time as Deputy 744 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 4: National Security Advisor, advice right now to the leadership. 745 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 17: That there has to be an absolutely conclusive victory this time, 746 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 17: and that's probably going to mean occupying most of Gaza 747 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 17: for a while, not long term. 748 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: Usual doesn't want to be in charge of Gaza. 749 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 17: Again, and it's going to mean trying to topple Ramas, 750 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 17: and that also then begs the question, well, who takes 751 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 17: over if Ramas isn't there, And that means Hopefully, maybe 752 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 17: with international health American help sau the involvement, maybe we 753 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 17: can see the Palestinian authority reinstated in Gaza. 754 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 4: Professor, thank you so much for your time, your expertise. 755 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 4: Professor Chuck Vilik, wish we had more time. We thank 756 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 4: you for joining us from New York and San Francisco. 757 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 4: This is Bloomberg Technology